NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[JACKinBeantown]

Is it me or Tower 1v2 is starting to look Giantesk.

Well, that's a new word. If you mean that it's starting to look big, I agree... in most other cities it would already look pretty big.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Well, that's a new word. If you mean that it's starting to look big, I agree... in most other cities it would already look pretty big.

true,put this thing in Philly or LA and it would be making quite the impact.though even now you can see how massive it is and how it will dominate all the structures around it, which in part has already happened.

[JayPro]

a few from the world center hotel

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10266&d=1281349776

We must be looking at over 300' already, using this nice pic as a gauge.

This looks to be shooting for 1 1/2x taller than 7 TWC by year's end...maybe sooner.

[Bucktown718]

A bit old but interesting
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[uakoops]

We must be looking at over 300' already, using this nice pic as a gauge.

This looks to be shooting for 1 1/2x taller than 7 TWC by year's end...maybe sooner.

It's about 370' right now, just about half of WTC7 (745').

[CHAPINM1]

It's about 370' right now, just about half of WTC7 (745').

By rounding to the nearest foot we are at 374 feet and the highest floor at this point is the 34th. The height of 7WTC is actually 750 feet/52 floors. At this point 1WTC is within only two feet or less of being half the height of 7WTC. The next two floors will be a milestone because then for sure 1WTC will be over half the height of 7WTC, well over in fact... :yes:

If I'm not 100% accurate I know Zensteeldude would know for sure..

[NYguy]

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[NewYorker2009]

By rounding to the nearest foot we are at 374 feet and the highest floor at this point is the 34th. The height of 7WTC is actually 750 feet/52 floors. At this point 1WTC is within only two feet or less of being half the height of 7WTC. The next two floors will be a milestone because then for sure 1WTC will be over half the height of 7WTC, well over in fact... :yes:

If I'm not 100% accurate I know Zensteeldude would know for sure..

I believe 7 World Trade Center is 741 feet so Tower 1 is more than half the height of 7 right now to the top of the steel, which is about 380 feet.

[Alpha Sky]

Here are some photos of WTC from August 10th. Enjoy!
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Here is One World Trade Center with Seven WTC in the background
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Here is One World Trade Center with the Beekman (UC) in the background
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Here is One World Trade Center from Hudson River with Woolworth Building in the background
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And another of One World Trade Center from Hudson River
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Enjoy!

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

the 2 new floors are already wrapped up???

[Domamania]

well to give you a more direct answer the tower 1v2 right now is up to floor 34. so thats 20 base floors and 14 office floors. now the base is about 187 feet tall. each office floor is 13.4 feet high. so 13.4x14=187.6 feet. now add 187.6+ 187= 374.6 feet high.

now tower 7 is 741 feet high at 52 floors high so if you divide 741/ 2= 370.5.

so as of right now Tower 1v2 is more then half of the height of Tower 7 by over 4 feet in height.

[sw5710]

So by Feb 2011 or 13 more times steel will be stacked. Then it will be equil to tower 7.

[patriotizzy]

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That picture's amazing. Looks great already.

[NYC4Life]

Just wait till the first panels of the curtain wall starts going up.

[JHoward88]

I'm totally looking forward to next time I visit New York. Thanks for all those new shots, NYGuy. :)

[Crush_Buds]

Kinda random but....I was playing Ninja Gaiden 2 a little while ago. The game is 2 years old, but I was pleasantly surprised when I noticed that the view from Liberty Island includes both complete 1WTC and 2WTC towers. Takes place in the future, so I'm glad they figured to put them in there!

[NYguy]

Kinda random but....I was playing Ninja Gaiden 2 a little while ago. The game is 2 years old, but I was pleasantly surprised when I noticed that the view from Liberty Island includes both complete 1WTC and 2WTC towers. Takes place in the future, so I'm glad they figured to put them in there!

I've noticed the towers in other places, such as comics and a movie or two. Everyone anticipates the new WTC...


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Construction continues on the National September 11 Memorial and Museum, below, Tuesday, Aug. 10, 2010, in New York.
Construction cranes work above One World Trade Center, rear, also known as the Freedom Tower. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan)


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[OneWorldTradeCenter]

32 stories of steel and concrete. 105 at the end... lovely pictures.

[Renton]

Looking forward to the first windows being attached.

[Innsertnamehere]

its funny, as I just watched the trailer for "money never sleeps 2", and it had a clip of the main character in the wintergarden, with 1wtc behind him. because of what 1wtc looked like, I can tell that that it was filmed in mid-september 2009.

[GertElim]

its funny, i just watched the trailer for money never sleeps 2, and it had a clip of the main character in the wintergarden, with 1wtc behind him. because of what 1wtc looks like, i can tell that that it was filmed in mid-september 2009.
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It was filmed in the beginning of November, because the 2 flags were there the first two weeks of November. Check this one: (©Morrongiello)
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This one was taken November 2nd.

[Innsertnamehere]

all i could see is that first pic, and as i didn't notice the flag, and i from what i remember all the lobby beams (if thats what they're called) were in place mid-september.

[BStyles]

1WTC is starting to get too large for the PA's webcam!:tup: Somebody better go up there and tilt it up a notch.

[NYguy]

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_381/durstwins.html

Durst wins One W.T.C. bid

BY Aline Reynolds
August 11 - 17, 2010


The Port Authority Board of Commissioners finalized the equity agreement with the Durst Organization for developing and managing One World Trade Center, the 102-story tower slated for completion in 2013.

The announcement, made at last Thursday’s Board meeting, comes one month after the Port selected Durst for the One W.T.C. development job over several other high-profile candidates.

The deal requires Durst to invest $100 million, and up to a total of $300 million down the line, in the project. Durst will receive a return determined by its final investment – or what real estate experts refer to as “equity interest” – and its performance in developing, managing and leasing the tower. The Port Authority will remain responsible for the bulk of the financing, insurance, and capital expenditures related to the project, in addition to the design and construction of the building’s core and shell.

Durst and the Port Authority will start collaborating immediately on One W.T.C. under an interim agreement, the details of which will be ironed out in the coming months.

“We believe that establishing a joint venture with a recognized world-class real estate firm with experience in developing large-scale commercial office space will reposition One W.T.C. in the market,” said Michael Francois, chief of real estate development at the Port Authority. “Private sector involvement with equity participation will increase [the Port Authority’s] economic competitiveness.”

Durst will begin accruing profits from One W.T.C. once the building is nearly fully occupied with office tenants, which is expected to occur by 2017.

A family-run company, Durst manages 10 million square feet of commercial office space around the city, 97 percent of which is occupied by tenants, according to Jordan Barowitz, director of external affairs for the company. Durst recently developed the 2.1 million-square-foot Bank of America building at One Bryant Park at 42nd Street and the 1.6 million square foot building at Four Times Square, current home to publishing giant Condé Nast.

“They have a proven track record, and large, green office buildings,” Francois said.

Other real estate developers vying for the project included Related Companies, which sources say had a more elaborate plan for the interior of One W.T.C.

“While we are disappointed and thought we offered a great vision for this iconic destination and for Lower Manhattan, we wish the Port Authority and their new partner well,” Related Companies C.E.O. and founder Stephen Ross said in a statement.

Related is known for building the Time Warner Center at Columbus Circle.

The Port Authority wouldn’t comment directly on their selection of Durst over Related, but Francois said, “Principals, Douglas and Jody Durst, have a high degree of involvement in all aspects of the Durst’s business. The organization maintains an excellence track record with New York-based large block tenants.”

Construction of One W.T.C. is now at the 34th floor, around 340 feet above street level, according to the Steve Coleman, spokesperson for the Port Authority. The future 1,776-foot-high tower, valued at around $2 billion, will have 2.6 million square feet of office space, around 40 percent of which already has commitments from two government agencies, the New York State Office of General Services and the United States General Services Administration.

Only days before the agreement with Durst, Condé Nast announced tentative plans to move to the future One W.T.C. in 2014. If the deal goes through, the publishing company would become the second private tenant of the tower, following Vantone Real Estate, a Chinese real estate company that has signed a lease for 190,000 square feet of space. Durst is not involved in the lease negotiation with Condé Nast, according to Barowitz.

[Krases]

This thing really only costs 2 billion dollars? I am actually surprised at that. Some of the projects in Vegas before the recession cost over 10 billion, or nearly 3.5 for one giant tower. Imagine if the tower had that sort of budget.

[Innsertnamehere]

yes, but they're not spending budget money on furnishing the building, only building the frame, elavators and lobby. all the floors have to be furnished by their tenants....

[eXodius]

I've noticed the towers in other places, such as comics and a movie or two. Everyone anticipates the new WTC...


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Noticed this in that article:

When the museum opens in 2012, the tour will start at an above-ground glass pavilion, where a 665-foot long "ribbon," or gently sloped ramp, will carry visitors through the site.

Wasn't there an article posted not long ago saying it was practically guaranteed that we'd see the memorial opened on the 10th anniversary?

[JSsocal]

Noticed this in that article:



Wasn't there an article posted not long ago saying it was practically guaranteed that we'd see the memorial opened on the 10th anniversary?

Well yes the Memorial will be open to the public; that is, the plaza should be just about complete, and certainly open to the public. The actual underground museum was originally intended to open sometime in 2012. That isn't to say they might not be done earlier in 2012 as opposed to later.

[Bucktown718]

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Hey look, it's a little tiny World Trade Center! :banana:

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Wow, that view of Goldman didn't last very long did it? Thankfully that was its least flattering side.

[NYguy]

^ And the BV building has seen a lot of change in that particular area of Manhattan over the years...

wtc.com (Aug 5)

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/14_44_2010_08_05-Memorial.jpg

[rich_200]

It's starting to look really big

[Yael]

Right now this area looks kind of dirty, I can't wait to see all of the skyscrapers
and the green areas, and the fountains right??:sly: in Ground Zero.:cool:

[Traynor]

Lately, no matter how many angles I see of the footprints of the original WTC 1 and 2, I think they look too small for the original buildings. As if they are only 4/5ths scale.

Is it my imagination, just an optical illusion or are they really slightly smaller?

^ And the BV building has seen a lot of change in that particular area of Manhattan over the years...

wtc.com (Aug 5)

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/14_44_2010_08_05-Memorial.jpg

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

whats that green patch by the memorial pool to the right?

[JSsocal]

Lately, no matter how many angles I see of the footprints of the original WTC 1 and 2, I think they look too small for the original buildings. As if they are only 4/5ths scale.

Is it my imagination, just an optical illusion or are they really slightly smaller?

No you're spot on they are in fact slightly smaller. Supposedly logistical concerns concerning the street orientation and path orientation underground led to their size reduction. Regardless, with the wide railing around the pools they won't be distractingly smaller then the original footprint.

[sw5710]

No you're spot on they are in fact slightly smaller. Supposedly logistical concerns concerning the street orientation and path orientation underground led to their size reduction. Regardless, with the wide railing around the pools they won't be distractingly smaller then the original footprint.

I think the footprints are 187' The original towers were 207'

[Bucktown718]

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[jamesinclair]

The fates of towers 2 and 3 are discussed in their own threads at length for anyone concerned with that.

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This is an awesome video. Im two weeks late, but wow.

The video says part of the memorial will be open for this years anniversary. Based on the pictures, I think they mean the stone engravings and maybe 2 trees.

Anyone know when the water will start flowing? Will they wait until 2011 for that?

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

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Amazing shot!

[colemonkee]

^ What's amazing about that shot (other than the fact that the photographer's saturation knob goes to 11) is the balconies on the building on the left. Who does one have to blow, er, know, to get up there to take some pictures?

[rich_200]

^ What's amazing about that shot (other than the fact that the photographer's saturation knob goes to 11) is the balconies on the building on the left. Who does one have to blow, er, know, to get up there to take some pictures?

I like the colors in the picture, the view of the Hudson and Jersey City on the background

[RoldanTTLB]

Sure, rent or buy there...

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[Bucktown718]

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[NYguy]

The video says part of the memorial will be open for this years anniversary. Based on the pictures, I think they mean the stone engravings and maybe 2 trees. Anyone know when the water will start flowing? Will they wait until 2011 for that?

Part of the memorial was open last year, particularly for family members. You can find more info on the memorial in its related thread.

[Traynor]

No you're spot on they are in fact slightly smaller. Supposedly logistical concerns concerning the street orientation and path orientation underground led to their size reduction. Regardless, with the wide railing around the pools they won't be distractingly smaller then the original footprint.

I think the footprints are 187' The original towers were 207'

Thanks guys!

Phew!!!!! I thought I was going crazy. At least now I know I don't have to up the dosage of my anti-psychotic meds!

:D

[NYguy]

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[RoldanTTLB]

Oh Fulton street! I look forward to eating at that brand new Five Guys in a couple minutes.

[Bucktown718]

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By GreenwichBoy @WNY

[NYguy]

Looks like the BV will be passed sometime next month...

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[NYCLuver]

August 13th, 2010

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[Onn]

Wow, great shots! :cheers:

[RobertWalpole]

West Street has become such a lush, beautiful, green boulevard. I look forward to the new landscaping on West Street.

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By GreenwichBoy @WNY

Will the 3' concrete core go all the way to the roof?

[NYguy]

August 13th, 2010

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This tower is already a monster.

Keep rising...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41060.html

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[NewYorker2009]

As huge as this Tower appears in pictures, you can never get a sense of it's colossal size until you see in person. I went down there on Wednesday and I was impressed with how tall it was getting. I also went to visit the Empire State Building and got to check out the 102nd Floor and Tower 1 is pretty visible from there now as well. Tower 4 is starting to pick up the pace again too so this site is really coming along thank goodness. It's amazing though because the way the site looks today you would never think the Twin Towers used to stand there. I unfortunately will never forget the great impact those Twin Towers had and they shall always be remembered. The last time I stood on top of the Twin Towers was in August, 1998. I look forward to the Observation Deck that Tower 1 will have in the future when it is complete.

[Onn]

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

:previous: Looks like yes! I hope base cladding is going to start now! :cheers:

[BiggieSmalls]

that picture could be ANY THING>

but dont the have to pour the exterior blast wall before putting up cladding?

[CoolCzech]

There is speculation going on that base cladding may have arrived at the site...although they really could be anything from this veiw.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2166/ghdq.png

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

It definitely looks similar to the metal cladding of 7WTC... only thing is, the FT's base is supposed to be covered with prismatic glass.


Amazing shot!

The composition is excellent... but whoever took the photo went overboard with the color tint editing. Nothing looks like this in real life.

[Domamania]

i dont see any cladding in the earthcam photo. can someone once circle it for me so i can see what the cladding is. Thank You.

[Zensteeldude]

Those are hoist cabs.

[Onn]

i dont see any cladding in the earthcam photo. can someone once circle it for me so i can see what the cladding is. Thank You.

It’s in the middle of the picture, it couldn't be any clearer...whatever that was. It's now out of view, I suspect Zen is correct.

[NYguy]

Let the Empire State and 15 Penn Plaza battle it out for supremecy in Midtown. (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=4946696&postcount=326)
The new king of New York continues to rise, no longer to be denied or ignored...


August 14, 2010

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[Zensteeldude]

Pictures 4 thru 11 above show the frame for the climbing crane.

It will probably look like a 21st century version of the ones that built the St. Louis Arch.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

:previous: Thanks a lot for all that images NYGuy! Lovely to see progress at my favourite skyscraper!:banana: :banana:

[BStyles]

*Googles St. Louis Arch construction*....oh, now I see what its gonna look like!

Because the tower tapers, so will the frame of the climbing crane. ZenSteelDude, will there be one on the opposite corner or is the only one?

[Zensteeldude]

:previous: I have no idea, but I'm going to guess that there well be only one.

[Traynor]

A climbing crane seems extravagant. Why does this tower need that? There are cranes on the top like any other tower. The unusual shape is not that unusual to warrant this in my opinion. There are more fantastical shapes being constructed around the world that don't employ climbing cranes. Someone please enlighten us.

[Zensteeldude]

The reasion for it is most likely the same as that for using climbing tower cranes in the core. There is no tower to get in the way so there will be less "call-back" work. The track well most likely be removed below the climber as it advances up the side of the tower. That way they can install the curtian wall without having to wait till the entire crane is removed.

[NYC4Life]

This tower has become perhaps the most photographed tower under construction in the world.

[Traynor]

The reasion for it is most likely the same as that for using climbing tower cranes in the core. There is no tower to get in the way so there will be less "call-back" work. The track well most likely be removed below the climber as it advances up the side of the tower. That way they can install the curtian wall without having to wait till the entire crane is removed.

*Traynor scratches his head...*

I'm sure that explanation makes sense to you because you know what you are thinking, but try explaining it again as if I were an alien from another planet.

For example: Your use of the word "tower" when you say "There is no tower to get in the way."

?????????:shrug: ??????

Are you using the word tower to refer to a higher concrete core? The way other steel buildings are often built with the steel being bolted to the core long after it has climbed higher than the steel floors. Or do you mean a whole other tower, like 7WTC, for example. Clearly I don't understand.

Furthermore...I am not in the construction trade and do not know what "Call back work" refers to, or how having a "Tower in the way" would affect this... whatever it is.

Sorry to be such a pest but I'm not following the logic so far.

[evanmack]

Greeaat Progress!!!

[Zensteeldude]

It would probably help if you watch this video from Federaded Equipment. The cranes they are using on Tower One are climbing tower cranes.

http://www.dcmerectors.com/FEDERATED/proj4.html

The tower I'm refering to is the black steel tower the crane sits on.

Now here is a video of a crane doing it the "old fashond way".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx5Qt7_ECEE&feature=related

The problem with th "old fashoned way" is the tower the crane sits on has to run the full hight of the tower the crane is building.

In the case of Tower One, if they had not used "climbing tower cranes" there would be a crane tower in the way of all the service elevator shafts among other things. Having to come back after the tower for the crane was removed and put in all the stuff they couldn't is called "Call-back" work.

This pic was taken in April 2007 as the tower cranes were being installed.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/493609260_8b685af5b8_o.jpg

The red bases in the pic above are now at about the 30th floor.

[uakoops]

That frame looks like it ought to have huge neon letters on it spelling out

M
O
T
E
L

or

L
I
Q
U
O
R

:)

[Traynor]

It would probably help if you watch this video from Federaded Equipment. The cranes they are using on Tower One are climbing tower cranes.

http://www.dcmerectors.com/FEDERATED/proj4.html

The tower I'm refering to is the black steel tower the crane sits on.

Now here is a video of a crane doing it the "old fashond way".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx5Qt7_ECEE&feature=related

The problem with th "old fashoned way" is the tower the crane sits on has to run the full hight of the tower the crane is building.

In the case of Tower One, if they had not used "climbing tower cranes" there would be a crane tower in the way of all the service elevator shafts among other things. Having to come back after the tower for the crane was removed and put in all the stuff they couldn't is called "Call-back" work.

This pic was taken in April 2007 as the tower cranes were being installed.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/493609260_8b685af5b8_o.jpg

The red bases in the pic above are now at about the 30th floor.

OK that was much clearer, but almost all the construction I know of in Toronto, they always use these internal climbing cranes, so I was taking that as a given. I thought you were calling this external angled crane assembly "climbing crane" because of its angle and somehow it was very different from the usual internal climbing crane. As a matter of fact I thought that internal climbing cranes were the only kind used these days...

What is still not clear to me is why there is a need to put one on the outside of the facade. That was my initial question. I see now that it was me not being very clear.

Why does this tower require a climbing crane on the outside of the building?

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Why does this tower require a climbing crane on the outside of the building?

Likely for cladding.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

hopefully the cladding will begin going on ahead of schedule

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

hopefully the cladding will begin going on ahead of schedule

Schedule is summer 2010!! And they haven't started yet.

[Giorgio]

Do you know what the hold-up is for the cladding? and Where is the first piece of glass going to be put in place?

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Do you know what the hold-up is for the cladding? and Where is the first piece of glass going to be put in place?

well had it not been for the hold up in May or June(i forget when it was) due to the concrete core we'd probably be seeing glass going up now though now the PA has set it for 3rd quarter of 2010.

[elysium]

well had it not been for the hold up in May or June(i forget when it was) due to the concrete core we'd probably be seeing glass going up now though now the PA has set it for 3rd quarter of 2010.

We're in the 4th quarter. 3rd quarter ended well over a month ago.

[Giorgio]

well had it not been for the hold up in May or June(i forget when it was) due to the concrete core we'd probably be seeing glass going up now though now the PA has set it for 3rd quarter of 2010.

Ohh, I understand. Thanks, but hopefully construction of 1WTC will be done by 2013 as they've said. The base will be the first part of the building to get glass, right?

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Ohh, I understand. Thanks, but hopefully construction of 1WTC will be done by 2013 as they've said. The base will be the first part of the building to get glass, right?

no the base will start cladding sometime in the middle of 2011,bases are usually cladded after the initial office space so floors 20-108 will be cladded first.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

We're in the 4th quarter. 3rd quarter ended well over a month ago.

No.

1st Q= January, Feb, March

2nd Q= April, May, June

3rd Q= July, August, Sept.

4th Q= Oct, Nov, Dec.

So we're in the 3rd quarter. After my knowledge they wanted to start with cladding by the 3rd quarter of 2010.

[elysium]

No.

1st Q= January, Feb, March

2nd Q= April, May, June

3rd Q= July, August, Sept.

4th Q= Oct, Nov, Dec.

So we're in the 3rd quarter. After my knowledge they wanted to start with cladding by the 3rd quarter of 2010.

What quarter system are you using? The US fiscal year begins October 1st. The 3rd Quarter is April 1st through June 30th. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year#United_States

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

What quarter system are you using? The US fiscal year begins October 1st. The 3rd Quarter is April 1st through June 30th. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year#United_States

though this is a construction timeline that runs on different logistics,its created by the PA.

[T-Mac]

The system he is using is the most common system used. The calendar year. Most companies and construction schedules are set to the calendar system. The US Government is on a fiscal year as you mentioned which has nothing to do with the construction of the towers at World Trade Center as their schedule is dictated by the calendar year.

[elysium]

though this is a construction timeline that runs on different logistics,its created by the PA.

I guess I'm just used to things being scheduled by fiscal year. (And for those who might think I'm crazy: no, the fiscal year isn't just used for accounting purposes...)

[elysium]

The system he is using is the most common system used. The calendar year. Most companies and construction schedules are set to the calendar system. The US Government is on a fiscal year as you mentioned which has nothing to do with the construction of the towers at World Trade Center as their schedule is dictated by the calendar year.

Point taken.

[NYguy]

Enough. :order:

They will begin when they will. The tower is rising into the sky already, you folks should just be happy with that for now.


A short clip from saturday

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[cpaul]

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/8734/dsc00622e.jpg (http://img576.imageshack.us/i/dsc00622e.jpg/)

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1678/dsc00621cc.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/dsc00621cc.jpg/)



from yesterday

[sterlippo1]

having just been approved to post i just to thank all of you who post here for providing the information and explanations of what is going with 1WTC during the construction and most of all for the incredible pictures that are posted here.............

[NYguy]

http://beta.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2010/aug/16/one-world-trade-center-joins-citys-skyline/

http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/view-of-world-trade-center-.jpg


http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/world-trade-center-from-new.jpg

[Zensteeldude]

OK that was much clearer, but almost all the construction I know of in Toronto, they always use these internal climbing cranes, so I was taking that as a given. I thought you were calling this external angled crane assembly "climbing crane" because of its angle and somehow it was very different from the usual internal climbing crane. As a matter of fact I thought that internal climbing cranes were the only kind used these days...

What is still not clear to me is why there is a need to put one on the outside of the facade. That was my initial question. I see now that it was me not being very clear.

Why does this tower require a climbing crane on the outside of the building?

There is only so much room inside the building and the external crane is for the concrete contractor. (Lifting rebar, forms etc.)

DCM charges other contractors $1,750 per lift to use the tower cranes.

[Pbellamy]

First post...

I live opposite WTC on the Jersey side, and travel through the site daily. I'm loving this site, it really is interesting to see such a vibrant group of interested people contribute to the story of this magnificent building.

Here's an image from yesterday (which will hopefully post correctly)

http://gallery.me.com/petebellamy/101434/P1040251/web.jpg?ver=12819953470001

[Don098]

You know what I'd love to see at the tip of that spire? That skyward-reaching spotlight that was in the old renderings. If the very tip of the spire was made of glass or crystal and cut like a gem, it would make it twinkle at night. Wouldn't that be something? I can dream at least, right?

[Giorgio]

You know what I'd love to see at the tip of that spire? That skyward-reaching spotlight that was in the old renderings. If the very tip of the spire was made of glass or crystal and cut like a gem, it would make it twinkle at night. Wouldn't that be something? I can dream at least, right?

That'd be sight I'm telling you. But only in our dream..