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OptimumPx

Sep 2, 2011, 10:39 PM

Why are people saying towers 2 and 3 are going to be scrapped, and the twins are going to be rebuilt, whats going On?

Even if they scrapped the actual towers in buildings 2 & 3 they are planning on building them up through the lobby and retail floors as 'stump buildings', however that's only until they get the financing to actually build the full thing up.

The site is far too complex to build anything other then what the current plans are showing...it's all too interconnected underground with the vehicle security center and the transportation hub.

To make a long story short (too late!), as soon as you were able to see any bits of the new tower 1 peeking up out of the ground it was too late to build anything else really.

Roadcruiser1

Sep 2, 2011, 10:43 PM

No Twin Towers. They aren't coming back unless if someone builds them somewhere else.

steveve

Sep 2, 2011, 11:02 PM

watching people slide down the slope

right off the edge!

but yeah, an outdoor observation deck would be cool, but indoor is completely fine for me. Besides, both Rockefeller and Empire state have outdoor areas.

marshall

Sep 2, 2011, 11:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmbN5tXp9nI

There will be a cool documentary on PBS on their NOVA program about building One WTC Tower. Looks very good. Will be on PBS Wednesday, September 7, 2011 at 9pm et. Link to a preview is above. :cool:

marshall

Sep 2, 2011, 11:26 PM

Even if they scrapped the actual towers in buildings 2 & 3 they are planning on building them up through the lobby and retail floors as 'stump buildings', however that's only until they get the financing to actually build the full thing up.

The site is far too complex to build anything other then what the current plans are showing...it's all too interconnected underground with the vehicle security center and the transportation hub.

To make a long story short (too late!), as soon as you were able to see any bits of the new tower 1 peeking up out of the ground it was too late to build anything else really.

So basically you are saying that there will only be one skyscraper at the site, that being One World Trade Center Tower, and towers 2,3 will just be small buildings? I am confused. lol

OptimumPx

Sep 2, 2011, 11:38 PM

So basically you are saying that there will only be one skyscraper at the site, that being One World Trade Center Tower, and towers 2,3 will just be small buildings? I am confused. lol

Not exactly.

Until they get the money to pay for the full towers they plan on just building the stumps of 2 & 3 (lobby and retail levels). However when the money is in place they will build towers 2 & 3.

Don098

Sep 2, 2011, 11:42 PM

Marshall, Marshall, Marshall...sigh. There are going four new towers. Look at ANY rendering of the new WTC and count them. There's your answer.

They will ALL be built soon. This whole holding-off-until-there's-financing is merely a pause, not a stop. There is no way in hell that they won't all get built, one way or the other. If a disaster occurs and Silverstien cannot secure financing for towers 2 and 3 for some reason, politicians and governments will likely step in to finish this off. It just simply could not remain incomplete.

uaarkson

Sep 3, 2011, 12:46 AM

Yep. Silverstein is legally obligated to build those towers. One way or another, they'll get built.

uaarkson

Sep 3, 2011, 12:49 AM

Barring another terrorist attack, or a double dip recession (which the U.S. will likely skirt by), there will be anchor tenants for these towers within the net year.

animatedmartian

Sep 3, 2011, 9:12 AM

WTCProgress (http://twitter.com/#!/WTCProgress)

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http://pic.twitter.com/HKY4YsE

sterlippo1

Sep 3, 2011, 10:32 AM

The best location for an outdoor observation deck might be on top of Tower 3, think about it... WTC 1 has the spire and the lights taking up space, so no room for too many people, plus safety concerns. Tower 2 has no roof in the conventional sense and Tower 4 is the shortest of the bunch. Tower 3 would be perfect, central to the entire World Trade Center complex, surrounded by all the other buildings, you would truly feel a part of the whole experience. This could be an alternative addition to the indoor observation deck in Tower 1. Now if they just build Tower 3 to it's full planned height.

i like that idea:tup:...........kinda like the best view in midtown is at Top of the Rock, NOT the ESB

hunser

Sep 3, 2011, 12:54 PM

^^ right, because from the top of the rock you can actually see the ESB. same goes for 3WTC where you can see marvels as 1 and 2WTC. :) btw great pics everyone, keep them coming. :cheers:

Zapatan

Sep 3, 2011, 1:54 PM

I guess they COULD have had an outdoor observation deck on 2 WTC, and it would have been interesting watching people slide down the slope :cool:

That would be so much fun haha, they should build a slide on top of tower 2. Kind of like the ride on the stratosphoere tower in vegas. :haha:

NYguy

Sep 3, 2011, 2:00 PM

Guess its time for the weekly reminder - this is the Freedom Tower/1 WTC thread. If you people want to keep discussing those other towers, do it in the appropriate threads.

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philvia

Sep 3, 2011, 2:35 PM

that last pic is amazing

steveve

Sep 3, 2011, 2:53 PM

right, but the dilemma with an outdoor observation deck on 3WTC, is that the roof fins would be way too high for people to see anything! :haha:

imo, 2wtc, and 4wtc are more ideal...

btw: are people allowed to go on that big setback on 4wtc!?! aside from it being a setback, is there any use to it?... THAT would be a great view of the WTC site!

JayDubo

Sep 3, 2011, 3:01 PM

Well, clearly this building isn't actually going to be 1,776' tall.
Main Lobby is at Elv. 311'2
North Entrance is at 307'10"
Beacon is at 2087'2, 1776' above main lobby floor, but 1779'4 above north entrance.
PLUS, if you look at the top of the diagram, there's an 8' section above the beacon, making it 1787'4" tall.

1787 is actually a much better number, when you think about it. 1776 was when we declared war on a country that's now an ally. How the hell is that really relevant to this building? 1787, on the other hand, was the year the US Constitution was written and adopted. Much more relevant.

what datum is the project working off of for lobby to be at elevation +311'-2" and spire to be at +2087'-2"? clearly not the manhattan datum...

update/edit:
a few minutes on google and i've answered my own question...
http://www.pobonline.com/Articles/Cover_Story/fc71be768d0f6010VgnVCM100000f932a8c0
"Most of the work in New York City, however, is tied to a specific borough datum. In Manhattan for example, the Manhattan vertical datum is 2.75' above mean sea level at Sandy Hook. Transit Authority vertical datum is 100.1' above the Manhattan vertical datum. Similarly, the Port Authority vertical datum is 297.347' above NGVD 29. The Transit Authority and Port Authority, with tunnels well below sea level, use these datums so engineers and surveyors can work in positive numbers."

upnotout

Sep 3, 2011, 4:00 PM

Marshall, Marshall, Marshall...sigh. There are going four new towers. Look at ANY rendering of the new WTC and count them. There's your answer.

Maybe you could use a recount.

http://www.e-architect.co.uk/images/jpgs/new_york/ground_zero_skyscrapers_amcrmar07_73.jpg

Onn

Sep 3, 2011, 4:33 PM

Maybe you could use a recount.

You could use a recount too.

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/1651_385%20KFP%20WTC%205.jpg

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/1651_385%20KFP%20WTC%205.jpg

OptimumPx

Sep 3, 2011, 5:05 PM

You could use a recount too.

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/1651_385%20KFP%20WTC%205.jpg

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/1651_385%20KFP%20WTC%205.jpg

Funny thing is there are plans for WTC 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5 and 7 has already been built. But as far as I know there is no current plan for any building to be built as WTC 6.

---

On topic what is going to be the official height on 9/11 this year? I know they've passed their goal of 1,000 ft, but I'm interested to know how high they've actually gotten for the anniversary.

CoolCzech

Sep 3, 2011, 5:57 PM

WTC 7 is called "7" in honor of the original 7 WTC that was destroyed by the attacks. There will only be a total of 6 towers... on Fox News last night Shepard Smith interviewed Silverstein, and Silverstein specifically referred to SIX towers he planned to finish as "jewels" of quality design.

By the way, I hope that ridiculous "window box" on the belly of of the rendition of 5 WTC never happens...

ChicagoSpire2000

Sep 3, 2011, 6:02 PM

I thought it was "only" 991 feet tall right now? Not passed 1000 yet.

sw5710

Sep 3, 2011, 6:05 PM

It is 991' Not over 1000' till the next jump. Then it will be 1017' or 1018'

OptimumPx

Sep 3, 2011, 6:12 PM

It is 991' Not over 1000' till the next jump!

Darn...I could have sworn someone posted a few pages back that it was over the 1,000 mark. >_<

Maybe I misread a post or something... :shrug:

marshall

Sep 3, 2011, 6:39 PM

Im sure they will make 1,000 before 9/11 they only have a few more feet to go. They are very close. Pretty soon its really going to start looking like a supertall building. :cheers:

CClaudio21

Sep 3, 2011, 6:42 PM

We need carlos to post more pictures! :D

marshall

Sep 3, 2011, 6:46 PM

Another interesting tidbit about 1 WTC...The views from the indoor observation deck when finished will surely be amazing, I believe during Discovery Channel's "Rising: Rebuilding Ground Zero" they mentioned that the windows on the floors will be expansive and offer wide angle views, unlike in the old Twin Towers, which had very narrowly-spaced windows, which supposedly to add a sense of security due to Yamasaki's fear of heights. Each window in the old Towers were only shoulder-length in width. New 1 World Trade will have much wider views, I believe. :tup:

sw5710

Sep 3, 2011, 6:58 PM

Now we are at floor 80 or 986'8'' Add 4 or 5' for column splices.
81=1,000'
82=1,013'4''
83=1,026'8''
84=1,040'
85=1,053'4''
86=1,066'8''
87=1,080'
88=1,093'4'' last office floor, 14'4''
89=1,107'8'' broadcast
90=1,130'8'' broadcast
91=1,151'8'' mechanical
92=1,181'8'' mechanical

Don098

Sep 3, 2011, 7:49 PM

Maybe you could use a recount.

:previous:Oh give me a break...we all know about WTC7...what are you going to do next? Put up a picture of the future WTC5 site? Boy, you're CLEVER.:hell:

EDIT: Wow..people actually did. Good Lord :haha:

cityenthusiast

Sep 3, 2011, 11:07 PM

Can anyone point me towards a rendering of WTC 5 or post a rendering I havent seen any plans or renderings of this building
Thanks

Roadcruiser1

Sep 3, 2011, 11:16 PM

It's the image on this page.

Alliance

Sep 3, 2011, 11:58 PM

Its also dead as a doornail for now. And the site was never officially part of the old WTC complex. They're just using the name.

chris123678

Sep 4, 2011, 1:06 AM

What is going on beyond that base? When are they going to clad it, its about time they start clading, and when will this building be topped off?

Servo

Sep 4, 2011, 3:07 AM

What is going on beyond that base? When are they going to clad it, its about time they start clading, and when will this building be topped off?

(1) They're probably preparing for the cladding of the base which (2) is supposed to start sometime early next year, at around the same time (3) when 1 WTC is supposed to top out (quarter 1 of 2012).

I hope that answers your questions. :tup:

Otie

Sep 4, 2011, 2:32 PM

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CalibratedZeus

Sep 4, 2011, 2:41 PM

Couple taken yesterday afternoon.

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QUEENSNYMAN

Sep 4, 2011, 5:34 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWO091meMeE

BiggieSmalls

Sep 4, 2011, 5:46 PM

are they removing the west external freight elevators in the above pics?

marshall

Sep 4, 2011, 7:51 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWO091meMeE

Thanks for the updates, NYBOY75. Keep them coming! :cool:

sterlippo1

Sep 4, 2011, 8:15 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWO091meMeE

with this angle from where you were shooting, i think this is the best evidence so far of the rebuilding of Lower Manhattan's skyline:cheers: imagine that 4WTC will be just about exactly as tall as what 1WTC is in this picture:yes::worship:

Otie

Sep 4, 2011, 9:55 PM

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MadGnome

Sep 5, 2011, 12:00 AM

Nice Otie.
I don't think those floor connections can be more than 50 times as strong as in the original towers.

Fury

Sep 5, 2011, 3:16 AM

Hi all.

what datum is the project working off of for lobby to be at elevation +311'-2" and spire to be at +2087'-2"? clearly not the manhattan datum...

update/edit:
a few minutes on google and i've answered my own question...
http://www.pobonline.com/Articles/Cover_Story/fc71be768d0f6010VgnVCM100000f932a8c0
"Most of the work in New York City, however, is tied to a specific borough datum. In Manhattan for example, the Manhattan vertical datum is 2.75' above mean sea level at Sandy Hook. Transit Authority vertical datum is 100.1' above the Manhattan vertical datum. Similarly, the Port Authority vertical datum is 297.347' above NGVD 29. The Transit Authority and Port Authority, with tunnels well below sea level, use these datums so engineers and surveyors can work in positive numbers."

Hi Jay.

That article is worded incorrectly.
The port authority vertical datum, elevation 0 is 297.37 feet below NGVD 1929. Similarly the transit VD is 100 feet below the Manhattan VD. That is how their deep tunnels stay in positive numbers.

:cheers:

STR

Sep 5, 2011, 4:35 AM

^Yep, though to be clear, the spire isn't "at +2087'-2". The beacon is at that height. The spire terminates 8' higher than that, per the diagram.

Otie

Sep 5, 2011, 11:28 AM

August 12

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steveve

Sep 5, 2011, 1:51 PM

the shots just keep getting better!!! ^^^

why the f**k doesn't goldman sachs turn off their lights!!! is the building still not occupied or what!?!

Dac150

Sep 5, 2011, 2:46 PM

the shots just keep getting better!!! ^^^

why the f**k doesn't goldman sachs turn off their lights!!! is the building still not occupied or what!?!

It's a 24/7 work week. ;)

NYguy

Sep 5, 2011, 3:08 PM

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2-TOWERS

Sep 5, 2011, 3:09 PM

well we are down to 6 days... i bet we see some verticle steel to break the 1000 ft mark..

nyc_alex

Sep 5, 2011, 3:14 PM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6210/6114749400_197fde7fd2_b.jpg

NYC.jpg

Seriously, think of this shot in five years. It will be even better than it already is.

sterlippo1

Sep 5, 2011, 5:00 PM

^^^that is an awesome pic! much better than the one with the hideous Verizon in it. Those aerials are amazing as well:tup:

Kevin Scott Koepke

Sep 5, 2011, 6:28 PM

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lower manhattan; 9/2/2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6116685789/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

Taken with a Minolta Maxxum 3 SLR with a 500mm Rokinon Reflex Lens :banana:

2-TOWERS

Sep 5, 2011, 6:41 PM

NYC.jpg

Seriously, think of this shot in five years. It will be even better than it already is.
interesting pic...almost looks like the twins being built with the beekman

mac78130

Sep 5, 2011, 6:41 PM

Larger renderings have been posted if you want to save them ;)

http://www.wtc.com/news/ (http://www.wtc.com/news/)

Brian Dino Vabec

Sep 5, 2011, 7:07 PM

September 4th, Tectonic, WNY..

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6039/dsc1269sn.jpg
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&page=741

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http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&page=741

CarlosV

Sep 5, 2011, 7:30 PM

We need carlos to post more pictures! :D

Hey, just got back from vacation in Delaware :)

As you can see nothing has been added to the top since my last post....

6 days until 9/11

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mrnyc

Sep 6, 2011, 12:15 AM

^ now thats a great shot showing how much it has grown past wtc7 and its other immediate neighbors.

hunser

Sep 6, 2011, 10:55 AM

360° panorama with full navigation: http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,783984,00.html

CarlosV

Sep 6, 2011, 2:00 PM

A rainy misty morning in New York

* notice the two Army helicopters flying around the tower!

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2-TOWERS

Sep 6, 2011, 2:25 PM

your penthouse views were missed !!!! wtc should be at the 94th floor at the tip of the cranes...

Yankee fan for life

Sep 6, 2011, 3:08 PM

I am starting to doubt they will make the 1000 ft mark by 9/11

sterlippo1

Sep 6, 2011, 3:31 PM

your penthouse views were missed !!!! wtc should be at the 94th floor at the tip of the cranes...

I often wondered how tall the cranes were . still a lot of height to be gained on this beauty:D

FrenchTwins

Sep 6, 2011, 3:39 PM

Hope this was not already linked:

Panorama of the whole site from multiple view points (it looks fairly recent and quite spectacular)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904716604576546571601601298.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_PhotosModule_1

thenbagis

Sep 6, 2011, 5:23 PM

* notice the two Army helicopters flying around the tower!

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Not actually Army helicopters... Marines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell-Boeing_V-22_Osprey

scalziand

Sep 6, 2011, 5:27 PM

I am starting to doubt they will make the 1000 ft mark by 9/11

All they need is a single extra column on the next floor to make it. Shouldn't be too hard to do.

pnapp1

Sep 6, 2011, 6:45 PM

It is going to rain all week here in NY. Progress is not looking good for the 10th anniversary and the 1000 ft mark. 1 column IMO does not make it a 1000 ft tower. :(

BTW those are Ospreys

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/docs/991157b.jpg

sw5710

Sep 6, 2011, 8:04 PM

I often wondered how tall the cranes were . still a lot of height to be gained on this beauty:D

If you look at the last picture of 1WTC. The top of the cranes are a good 19 or 20 floors above 1 WTC. 250'

brian.odonnell20

Sep 6, 2011, 8:29 PM

It is going to rain all week here in NY. Progress is not looking good for the 10th anniversary and the 1000 ft mark. 1 column IMO does not make it a 1000 ft tower. :(

except it really does... you seriously think that 300-400 spires aren't the same exact concept?

Otie

Sep 6, 2011, 8:49 PM

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pnapp1

Sep 6, 2011, 9:01 PM

except it really does... you seriously think that 300-400 spires aren't the same exact concept?

No, I don't! A spire is the pinnacle of a building with nothing to come above it. Big difference. I consider a buildings actual height when a majority of the columns have been placed not 1. As I said before just my opinion.

Traynor

Sep 6, 2011, 9:15 PM

Seeing as the Western construction elevators were only ever going as high as the 40th floor anyway, why aren't they cladding the track above it? They have left a gap for no discernible reason.

:shrug:

Otie

Sep 6, 2011, 9:18 PM

^A panel needs to be set in within the below one. If there's no panel below, then you'll have to redesign the piece. ;)

CClaudio21

Sep 6, 2011, 9:21 PM

According to this article One World Trade has reached 1,000 feet. http://www.smartbrief.com/news/asce/storyDetails.jsp?issueid=EE081CF0-292E-4AE4-AB90-132D8ED1030A&copyid=2810003E-D674-4A06-9FA5-A8C2C52FAABA&brief=asce&sb_code=rss&&campaign=rss

Traynor

Sep 6, 2011, 10:02 PM

^A panel needs to be set in within the below one. If there's no panel below, then you'll have to redesign the piece. ;)

Thanks Otie, very logical... I should have thought of that... They talked about the weather seal and the hockey stick they use to adjust it during installation of the panels on the Discovery special: The Rising.

:cheers:

And I am hoping Mike O'Riley and his partner can get at least one column up before 9/11, so it hits 1000 feet as they so desperately wanted.

xnyr

Sep 6, 2011, 10:57 PM

Does anyone know if there will be a mass-tuned damper at the top mech. floors?

Davidsam52

Sep 6, 2011, 11:07 PM

Yankee fan for life

Sep 6, 2011, 11:49 PM

[QUOTE=CClaudio21;5402404]According to this article One World Trade has reached 1,000 feet.

From all the sources that i know 1 wtc has not reached the 1,000 mark .

Davidsam52

Sep 7, 2011, 12:05 AM

[QUOTE=pnapp1;5402229]It is going to rain all week here in NY. Progress is not looking good for the 10th anniversary and the 1000 ft mark. 1 column IMO does not make it a 1000 ft tower. :(

Well according to National Weather Service sun should be back out by Thursday so there is still hope....:cool::cool::cool:

MadGnome

Sep 7, 2011, 12:15 AM

Does anyone know if there will be a mass-tuned damper at the top mech. floors?

The tower will never see a 7 point quake. It's much stiffer than quake zone towers, so there's not much point in a damper.

marshall

Sep 7, 2011, 1:44 AM

I hope they do make the 1,000 ft mark, but either way they are really close! As to weather, I could be wrong, but I thought those great ironworkers like Mike and Tommy from "Rising" work in pretty much rain or shine..I have full faith in those men :)

steveve

Sep 7, 2011, 1:53 AM

xnyr

Sep 7, 2011, 2:06 AM

The tower will never see a 7 point quake. It's much stiffer than quake zone towers, so there's not much point in a damper.

Why is there one in the Citicorp Bldg?

samd

Sep 7, 2011, 2:14 AM

Why is there one in the Citicorp Bldg?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citigroup_Center#Engineering_crisis_of_1978

xnyr

Sep 7, 2011, 2:20 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citigroup_Center#Engineering_crisis_of_1978

Thank you.. I was just about to edit my post when I googled and found the very article you linked to.

:cheers:

CarlosV

Sep 7, 2011, 2:28 AM

by tomorrow only 4 days....will we see more columns by friday??

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uaarkson

Sep 7, 2011, 2:41 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citigroup_Center#Engineering_crisis_of_1978

Holy shit, that's crazy!

detroitmetro101

Sep 7, 2011, 6:42 AM

man, i love downtown. the street layout, the architecture, it looks and feels bigger than it is. i like midtown as well,but the grid doesnt allow building to be noticed quite as well; on top of that, i dont like knowing where i am all the time, so with midtown there is very little mystery, though large and expansive wich allows more room for expression. downtown on the other hand has nooks and crannies that even natives might not know about, alot a vantege points. in other words, downtown is more of a signiture with elegant building, whereas midtown is more about economic dynamics...one think that stands out though is battery park city, im not sure how i feel about it, because the architecture doesnt seem good enough, the heights of the residential towers could be taller, particularly because of where theyre located, the demand for residences in that area is probably enormous....

MadGnome

Sep 7, 2011, 11:23 AM

Why is there one in the Citicorp Bldg?

The Citicorp building is barely strong enough to stand up in a stiff breeze. It wasn't even that strong because of a major contractor screwup until welded a bunch of joints.
You could pick up lower Manhattan with WTC1.
Archimedes might finally have his lever. Now he just needs a place to stand.

NYguy

Sep 7, 2011, 2:11 PM

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CarlosV

Sep 7, 2011, 3:52 PM

Ten years Later 2001 - 2011

Rainy and foggy....4 days til 9/11...have they added new steel??? :shrug:

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‘Ground Zero’ is a term that no longer applies, according to NYC mayor

Ten years after the terrorist attacks, and less than a week from the ribbon-cutting at the new World Trade Center, the New York City mayor says it's time to retire Ground Zero....

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/ground-zero-term-no-longer-applies-according-nyc-160024481.html

marshall

Sep 7, 2011, 4:33 PM

Ten years Later 2001 - 2011

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‘Ground Zero’ is a term that no longer applies, according to NYC mayor

Ten years after the terrorist attacks, and less than a week from the ribbon-cutting at the new World Trade Center, the New York City mayor says it's time to retire Ground Zero....

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/ground-zero-term-no-longer-applies-according-nyc-160024481.html

I hope they do retire that hideous term for good. "ground zero" evokes way too much tragedy and loss. Time to retire it for good!

hunser

Sep 7, 2011, 4:35 PM

Ground Zero is a term that no longer applies, according to NYC mayor

I fully agree here, I mentioned it several times before that people should finally stop using the term Ground Zero. There's no hole anymore, heck we already got a 1000 feet scraper soaring into the sky. From now on, let's just call the whole thing by its name: the WTC site. :)

NYC4Life

Sep 7, 2011, 4:42 PM

UPDATED 11:09 AM
Silverstein Confident WTC Site Has New Lease On Life
By: NY1 News

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/146573/silverstein-confident-wtc-site-has-new-lease-on-life

While new buildings rise at the World Trade Center, leaseholder Larry Silverstein says he has no doubt those buildings will soon be fully occupied.
Speaking on last night's "Inside City Hall", Silverstein noted that after the terror attacks, a lot of people thought new skyscrapers at the site would never attract enough businesses to be successful.

But now that tower 7 is fully leased, Silverstein is confident the other buildings will attract similar interest.

He says he's in negotiations with several large firms to lease space in the towers.

"There was a massive exodus from Lower Manhattan at that moment in time. As I watched this I said to myself, 'We've gotta stop this, and the only way to stop this is to start rebuilding,'" Silverstein said.

Later this morning, Mayor Michael Bloomberg will join Silverstein, Port Authority executive director Chris Ward, and other officials to give a progress report on the rebuilding efforts.

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