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sask1982
Jan 13, 2009, 6:39 PM
I hope someone out there is doing a time lapse of this project from the very beginning to the end of it. That would be the most awesome timelapse ever!

http://www.projectrebirth.org/

NYguy
Jan 14, 2009, 1:26 AM
From wtc.com, Jan 8th, 12th

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/108126554/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/108126554/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/108126572/original.jpg

2-TOWERS
Jan 14, 2009, 4:15 AM
Its amazing how fast the North Tower Footprint is coming , however it seems like it will be much harder to do the south tower footprint because of the Path and temp buildings etc. Anyway Ny Guy thanks for the best updates on this project.

NYguy
Jan 14, 2009, 1:15 PM
Its amazing how fast the North Tower Footprint is coming , however it seems like it will be much harder to do the south tower footprint because of the Path and temp buildings etc. Anyway Ny Guy thanks for the best updates on this project.

Most of the south footprint will be covered, but it will be marked in the PATH station in a way that you know where it is - at least that's the plan.

2-TOWERS
Jan 14, 2009, 2:02 PM
seems like some of the grey steel in the upper corner is part of the south footprint

theWatusi
Jan 14, 2009, 2:29 PM
I think those are ramp parts you are seeing.

NYguy
Jan 15, 2009, 6:11 AM
A few updates...
http://lowermanhattan.info/news/port_authority_making_headway_23444.aspx

-National 9/11 Memorial construction is progressing well, with steel being installed faster than the contractor initially anticipated.

-The Freedom Tower’s south core is now 35 feet above grade, while the north core is rising fast and should be above grade by late summer 2009. Once the sub-grade portions are complete, the Port expects one new floor to be built every week or two.

-Crews continue to excavate the north end of the east bathtub, making way for WTC Transportation Hub and Tower 2 construction -- though arbitration over the latter’s turnover is still in arbitration with Silverstein Properties.

-The Hub’s east-west connector is on the way to final fit-out south of the Freedom Tower with 47 steel arches in place. Crews are now beginning the secant wall installation that will allow for tunnel excavation across West Street.

-On the site’s south side, Port Authority crews have completed test borings that precede excavation for the Vehicular Security Center (VSC). Construction of the VSC and of the south bathtub -- located at the 130 Liberty Street building site, where 5 WTC will eventually rise -- is expected to mobilize in the coming months.

NYguy
Jan 15, 2009, 6:23 AM
nsarilakis (http://flickr.com/photos/nsarilakis/3196931172/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/3196931172_85d7c31f09_b.jpg

STERNyc
Jan 15, 2009, 7:13 AM
-The Freedom Tower’s south core is now 35 feet above grade, while the north core is rising fast and should be above grade by late summer 2009. Once the sub-grade portions are complete, the Port expects one new floor to be built every week or two.


That's discouraging. I was hoping to read that construction of steel floors would start shortly, but basically that amount of visual progress won't occur until Fall of 2009.

NYguy
Jan 15, 2009, 3:06 PM
That's discouraging. I was hoping to read that construction of steel floors would start shortly, but basically that amount of visual progress won't occur until Fall of 2009.

Probably true, but then again, they're practically at street level now on the north end. I think summer of 2009 may just be allowing for more delays, with more visual progress probably sooner...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/108126554/large.jpg

Once the sub-grade portions are complete, the Port expects one new floor to be built every week or two.

That should answer everyone's questions about how fast to expect floors to rise...

2-TOWERS
Jan 15, 2009, 3:25 PM
after we get by this year , we will really see alot of change, but despite work going slow each week , infact each day NYguy posts a pic you can see something new, its coming along.......

rich_200
Jan 15, 2009, 7:44 PM
Waiting 9 months so the North Core can just get above grade!! Wow that's really slow. Yeah I know how big the project is as a whole and many other things, but I was expecting that getting the North Core 20 feet higher wouldn't take more than 3 months.

But does this means that the South Core will stay were it is now or will it keep distancing itself fromt he other core? will that diference continue through all the construction process or the South core will eventually have to wait for the North one? If so, why did it started rising faster in the first place?

UrbanImpact
Jan 15, 2009, 8:22 PM
Waiting 9 months so the North Core can just get above grade!! Wow that's really slow. Yeah I know how big the project is as a whole and many other things, but I was expecting that getting the North Core 20 feet higher wouldn't take more than 3 months.

But does this means that the South Core will stay were it is now or will it keep distancing itself fromt he other core? will that diference continue through all the construction process or the South core will eventually have to wait for the North one? If so, why did it started rising faster in the first place?

I think it has something to do with the type of heavy duty concrete they are using. It takes a while to cure. And there are some obstructions the North Core has to deal with that the South doesn't. Maybe NYguy can help more.

Wheelingman04
Jan 15, 2009, 9:16 PM
I am very encouraged from what is going on now.

STERNyc
Jan 15, 2009, 10:24 PM
Waiting 9 months so the North Core can just get above grade!! Wow that's really slow. Yeah I know how big the project is as a whole and many other things, but I was expecting that getting the North Core 20 feet higher wouldn't take more than 3 months.

But does this means that the South Core will stay were it is now or will it keep distancing itself fromt he other core? will that diference continue through all the construction process or the South core will eventually have to wait for the North one? If so, why did it started rising faster in the first place?

Here's an explanation from someone at WNY (ZenSteelDude) who is involved with the construction.

What's going on with the north half of the core? One word PATH ! Due to PATH safety regs. most of the work on the north side has to be done on weekends when the PATH is shut down.

Another factor is the Vesey St. overhang, it has to be removed but before it can be removed the Tower columns have to be rigged up to take the load the V St. columns are now taking.

Did ya notice the holes they had to cut in V. St. to get the north side columns in ?

Not to mention the winter cold and the effect it has on cement.

rich_200
Jan 16, 2009, 2:23 AM
^
Thank you for the answer, now everything is clear

NYguy
Jan 16, 2009, 4:38 AM
[i]What's going on with the north half of the core? One word PATH ! Due to PATH safety regs. most of the work on the north side has to be done on weekends when the PATH is shut down.

That would do it.

NYguy
Jan 16, 2009, 4:42 AM
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/roadmap_forward.html

Today, we’re pleased that we’ve been able to meet eight of the nine interim 4th quarter milestones. We are working cooperatively with Silverstein Properties to get the ninth milestone – the excavation of the Tower 2 and Tower 4 sites – completed as quickly as possible.

-The installation of 1,600 tons of steel for the National September 11 Memorial & Museum.

-The completion of the foundation for One World Trade Center, the Freedom Tower, which included the pouring of 15,000 cubic yards of the strongest concrete ever used in a New York City commercial office building, the equivalent of 60 miles of New York City sidewalks.

-The procurement of 22,000 tons of steel for the World Trade Center Transportation Hub.

___________________________________


Here's another overview of the site for the last 3 months...

Nov 2008

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/gallery/photos/wtc_site/WTC-Aerial_labelled-nov08.jpg

Dec 2008

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/gallery/photos/wtc_site/WTC-Aerial_labelled-dec08.jpg

Jan 2008

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/gallery/photos/wtc_site/WTC-Aerial_labelled-jan09.jpg

KingKrunch
Jan 16, 2009, 3:04 PM
The webcam shows steel columns being erected where the ramp used to be :tup:

CoolCzech
Jan 16, 2009, 6:05 PM
Curbed.com

WTC DelayWire: Towers May Be Shops Now, Offices Later

http://curbed.com/uploads/2009_1_wtctimeline.jpg

Behold! Our updated, wildly confusing World Trade Center timeline infographic! Hey, what's with the question mark on Lord Norman Foster's diamond-topped Tower 2, and Sir Richard Rogers' bulgy-bottomed Tower 3? Brace. The Downtown Express has an extensive interview with the Port Authority's WTC czar Chris Ward—the guy who's supposed to be exuding confidence about the delay-plagued redevelopment of ground zero—and he has some frightening words about the fate of these two skyscrapers. He floats the prospect of new delays for the Larry Silverstein-developed towers, explaining, "It would be naïve to think real estate can respond in the same way it was expected to respond in 2006," and then comes the hammer:

If Towers 2 and 3 do not rise over the next several years, as was expected, Ward promised that something temporary would go in their place. One possibility is to build a retail-filled podium of several stories, then add the skyscrapers when the economy improves. Another possibility is to build a platform at grade. No matter what, the sites will not remain fenced off behind barriers indefinitely.
Are a pair of malls or empty platforms really that much better than fenced-off voids? Yes, says Ward: "This will not be left a construction site. The last thing that's good economically and the last thing for the community is to…have it feel like some pit." Fumihiko Maki's somewhat bland Tower 4 is safe because the Port Authority and city have already pledged to lease most of the space.

CoolCzech
Jan 16, 2009, 6:08 PM
:hell: Jesus H. Christ! Can they just stop over-thinking this thing, and build the damned things already! If the ESB and Rockefeller Center could be put up smack in the middle of a REAL Depression, can't the WTC be rebuilt NOW??? It's not like they haven't squandered 8 years ALREADY!

CSABA8
Jan 16, 2009, 6:13 PM
Thanks for the great update NYguy. The memorial foundation progress is very fast. They open it sooner, or waiting when all 4 tower completed ?

RockMont
Jan 16, 2009, 6:23 PM
It's not as if it has been put on hold, because it hasn't.. It's because it's such a massive project, that the 'bones' of the work, mainly underground, took a while to complete, not to mention the foundations and so on. Of course it didn't help, that, that idiot governor (not the one with the prostitute, but the one before that) complicated the whole damn thing, by spending too much time, catering to the whims of the victims (the survivors) over the issue of rebuilding the twins or not, plus the selection of that God-Awful architect, that wanted to build structures that could only be conceived of in nightmares. I felt for the families of the victims, but not rebuilding the twins, unfortunately wasn't going to change a thing. Not that I am still dwelling on whether or not that'll happen, since it won't, but the whole process was delayed by those two morons. If only an architect, that knew what the hell, he was doing, such as the ones that designed the current complex that is starting to take shape, was the original choice, would it be further along, but then it still would be far from finished, at this juncture.

Just-In-Cali
Jan 16, 2009, 7:04 PM
It is funny that the two most boring and least liked towers of the complex (Freedom and Twr 4) WOULD be the ones that have firm starts and planned finish dates. Towers 2 and 3 were my favorites.

uaarkson
Jan 16, 2009, 7:29 PM
not only was the ESB built during a depression, it was finished in just over 1 year =|

uaarkson
Jan 16, 2009, 7:30 PM
It is funny that the two most boring and least liked towers of the complex (Freedom and Twr 4) WOULD be the ones that have firm starts and planned finish dates. Towers 2 and 3 were my favorites.

um, I haven't heard anyone say that FT is boring or "least liked"

it's definitely the most popular tower in this entire project.

Dac150
Jan 16, 2009, 9:05 PM
All I can say is lets not jump to any conclusions. Lets just wait an see how this all plays out and look at the positives (we're getting a 1776' building, tower four, and all the other bells and whistles). My take on towers two and three is that something will come to be (whether or not it will be what we've been shown is NOT yet determined). I agree that it would be depressing if those designs were scrapped, but they're not as of yet, nor has there been any solid confirmation of that.

Lets see what Larry says, if anything, and take his word above all else. After all he's the one calling that shots on 2 & 3.

CoolCzech
Jan 16, 2009, 11:53 PM
All I can say is lets not jump to any conclusions. Lets just wait an see how this all plays out and look at the positives (we're getting a 1776' building, tower four, and all the other bells and whistles). My take on towers two and three is that something will come to be (whether or not it will be what we've been shown is NOT yet determined). I agree that it would be depressing if those designs were scrapped, but they're not as of yet, nor has there been any solid confirmation of that.

Lets see what Larry says, if anything, and take his word above all else. After all he's the one calling that shots on 2 & 3.

That's our only hope. Silverstein is no whimp... and he must also be aware that his time remaining on this planet is not unlimited. I bet he's much more concerned that his legacy be summed up as "Builder of the New World Trade Center" than by a full occupancy rate the day he passes on to a Better Place...

NYguy
Jan 17, 2009, 1:03 AM
It is funny that the two most boring and least liked towers of the complex (Freedom and Twr 4) WOULD be the ones that have firm starts and planned finish dates. Towers 2 and 3 were my favorites.

Those towers had multiple delays also.

NYguy
Jan 17, 2009, 1:07 AM
:hell: Jesus H. Christ! Can they just stop over-thinking this thing, and build the damned things already!

Relax. I agree all of the towers should be skyward by now, but that hasn't been the case so far. Yet, we are seeing progress at the site on a pace we haven't seen. Also, the Freedom Tower is well under construction, so nothing to vent about here.


http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/gallery/photos/wtc_site/WTC-Aerial_labelled-jan09.jpg

talltowers08
Jan 17, 2009, 11:04 AM
Just look at the size of that site no wonder its taking time. I personaly think things are going good , and each day i spot new things on earthcam at the site

NYguy
Jan 17, 2009, 1:31 PM
It's only a matter of time before we're remarking how fast this thing is rising. That's always the case.

br.reese
Jan 17, 2009, 3:37 PM
I'm just ready for this thing to rise like the trump.

talltowers08
Jan 17, 2009, 4:21 PM
New steel arriving at the wtc site its being placed on the roof of the WFC underpass check earthcam

Lt. Washburn
Jan 17, 2009, 11:46 PM
New steel arriving at the wtc site its being placed on the roof of the WFC underpass check earthcam

I saw that. Are you sure it's not for the roof of the underpass instead of the building?

NYguy
Jan 18, 2009, 7:31 AM
New steel arriving at the wtc site its being placed on the roof of the WFC underpass check earthcam

I may go by the site in a day or two. We seem to be thawing out a little..:yes:

talltowers08
Jan 18, 2009, 2:17 PM
I saw that. Are you sure it's not for the roof of the underpass instead of the building?

i didnt say it was for the wfc i said it was being placed ontop of the underpass roof

2-TOWERS
Jan 18, 2009, 3:51 PM
the south tower memorial will be a hard with the path tracks running through it, but from what i could see the tracks will run directly under the bottom of the waterfall, the deeper center hole should be out of the way..

talltowers08
Jan 18, 2009, 8:31 PM
It looks like they have installed somthing onto the south core earthcam isnt cleanr but u can see somthin there being moved ontop of it

Realthang
Jan 18, 2009, 9:25 PM
It looks like they have installed somthing onto the south core earthcam isnt cleanr but u can see somthin there being moved ontop of it

The steel frames that they were building on top of the east-west corrider were moved to surround the FT cores... no clue what they are doing (tying the south core to the north core???)

NYguy
Jan 18, 2009, 11:09 PM
JANUARY 18, 2009

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Dac150
Jan 19, 2009, 12:39 AM
I like what I see.

theWatusi
Jan 19, 2009, 12:52 AM
OK, yah got me...what's that for?

JACKinBeantown
Jan 19, 2009, 1:21 AM
That looks promising.

deja vu
Jan 19, 2009, 1:27 AM
yay steel!

Plokoon11
Jan 19, 2009, 4:42 AM
Wow, that is a great gain for the Freedom Tower, hope more progress like that happens~!

Lt. Washburn
Jan 19, 2009, 5:43 AM
Great!

pattali
Jan 19, 2009, 7:44 AM
NyGuy :

My Eyes in New York ....


Thanks a lot for this pictures, steel is rising from WTC1

talltowers08
Jan 19, 2009, 5:08 PM
will that be the core colums then and concrete over it ?

Dac150
Jan 19, 2009, 5:13 PM
will that be the core colums then and concrete over it ?

I would assume so seeing how that's been the trend thus far. However I could be wrong.

CSABA8
Jan 19, 2009, 5:29 PM
I know is just a piece of steel, but so good to see it.

Biff
Jan 19, 2009, 6:04 PM
What is good to see is the photographs pointing UP!

jam011
Jan 19, 2009, 6:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egjyM53J2A0&feature=related
the final version

howardroark
Jan 20, 2009, 1:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2El4lzMAnxg

The version everyone wanted. :cheers:

alexjon
Jan 20, 2009, 1:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egjyM53J2A0&feature=related
the final version

Best ever, love it.

uaarkson
Jan 20, 2009, 2:04 AM
They should set up a hong kong style light bridge between the FT and ESB.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q144/aboveday2006/icc-l1.jpg

:yes:

Wheelingman04
Jan 20, 2009, 3:06 AM
It's great to see it rise.

howardroark
Jan 20, 2009, 3:49 AM
people will love the new WTC when it's completed.
What people are you refering to?

alexjon
Jan 20, 2009, 3:53 AM
What people are you refering to?

I'm a people

aaron38
Jan 20, 2009, 4:59 AM
They should set up a hong kong style light bridge between the FT and ESB.

I'll never understand things like that. It's light polution and a waste of electricity.

uaarkson
Jan 20, 2009, 5:05 AM
I don't mean 24/7, just for special occasions such as the 9/11 anniversary.

PhxPavilion
Jan 20, 2009, 8:59 AM
1WTC is still primarily a box, just a little slimmer; its alternating square design pays homage to the twin towers. I'm not a huge fan of the big spire but I do think it will be a very nice looking building and considering it will be nearly 200' taller than the Trump tower in Chicago at its roof I'm happy with its height as well.

I also love 2WTC and hope it gets built.

A-K O.G.
Jan 20, 2009, 5:11 PM
quick note, more steel rising from the south core as well as much activity on the south tower memorial..

MikeM
Jan 20, 2009, 8:16 PM
I'll never understand things like that. It's light polution and a waste of electricity.
Yeah, why waste - no need for cool glazing, stainless mullions, stone facings and all that other architectural guff - let's just build out of plain old CMU and put courrugated iron roofs on top...

C'mon guys - we NEED some creative design, effects, whatever to liven up our environment.

Ice Water
Jan 20, 2009, 8:20 PM
Looking good!

NYguy
Jan 21, 2009, 12:58 PM
quick note, more steel rising from the south core as well as much activity on the south tower memorial..

Cool, maybe I'll check out the site again.

NYguy
Jan 21, 2009, 1:54 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/01/ppg_seeks_contract_for_freedom.html

PPG seeks contract for Freedom Tower glass

by ELIZABETH GIBSON The Patriot-News
Tuesday January 20, 2009


PPG Industries Inc. is seeking a multi-million contract to supply glass for One World Trade Center, The Freedom Tower, a corporate spokesman confirmed Tuesday. If the firm's bid is successful, employees at its 415-worker plant in South Middleton Township would fill the order.

The firm spent several hundred thousand dollars designing a glass product that would be used for the facade of the lower five floors of the 102-story building being erected in Lower Manhattan in New York, spokesman Jack Maurer said. He said a furnace at the South Middleton operation was modified to accommodate the unique product. The $3 billion, 2.6 million-square-foot tower is slated to open in 2012.

PPG, based in Pittsburgh, supplies coatings, glass, fiberglass and chemicals.

NYguy
Jan 21, 2009, 2:03 PM
doolmom (http://flickr.com/photos/doolmom/3209145503/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3209145503_f6f0d5e124_b.jpg

CHAPINM1
Jan 21, 2009, 10:00 PM
On the skyscrapercity thread there are some recient pictures from yesterday showing more steel!

Kamatzu
Jan 22, 2009, 1:21 AM
...Jack Maurer...
That is awesome

Duffstuff129
Jan 22, 2009, 2:25 AM
Sweet Jebus! Check out what I just read on the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation's Website:

Freedom Tower: The Freedom Tower will soar to 1,776 feet in the sky and serve as an inspirational and enduring beacon in the New York City skyline. The Tower's design evokes classic New York skyscrapers in its elegance and symmetry while also referencing the torch of the Statue of Liberty. The Freedom Tower will rise to 1,362 feet, the height of the original WTC South Tower, and feature an outdoor observation deck at the height of the original North Tower. An illuminated antenna will rise from the center of the building to the symbolic height of 1,776 feet.

Source: http://renewnyc.com/ThePlan/world_trade_center_towers.asp

Hip Hip Hooray! And to think that at one point people thought there would be no outdoor observation deck. :D :banana:

Also: I have a feeling that I may be a little late on this one, but if I let one person know about it and they didn't before, I believe a repost was worth it.

CitySkyline
Jan 22, 2009, 3:01 AM
Sweet Jebus! Check out what I just read on the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation's Website:

Source: http://renewnyc.com/ThePlan/world_trade_center_towers.asp

Hip Hip Hooray! And to think that at one point people thought there would be no outdoor observation deck. :D :banana:

Also: I have a feeling that I may be a little late on this one, but if I let one person know about it and they didn't before, I believe a repost was worth it.

Not to be a doubting Thomas, but I'll believe it when I see it! From what I've always understood, an outdoor deck wasn't possible due to all the antenna equipment up there. I suspect that link just has bad (outdated) information.

Yeah, I realize it's the LMDC website and one would think they'd have accurate info, but with all the constant movement at the site, I wouldn't be surprised if they never updated that page with more recent/accurate info.

Anyway, I'd be ecstatic if it were true, but for now, I'll continue to believe that there won't be an outdoor deck.

(Does anyone have any other alternative sources saying there'll be an outdoor deck?)

NYguy
Jan 22, 2009, 3:45 PM
Sweet Jebus! Check out what I just read on the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation's Website:



Source: http://renewnyc.com/ThePlan/world_trade_center_towers.asp

Hip Hip Hooray!

Sadly, that's what was planned when this version of the tower originally came out. It's since been scrapped. Many things on that website just haven't been updated.

Zerton
Jan 22, 2009, 5:27 PM
doolmom (http://flickr.com/photos/doolmom/3209145503/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3209145503_f6f0d5e124_b.jpg

This picture is even better than the aerials because it illustrates the depth that had to be built up before even reaching the street level. There's a ton of structure down there.

NYguy
Jan 23, 2009, 4:23 AM
This picture is even better than the aerials because it illustrates the depth that had to be built up before even reaching the street level. There's a ton of structure down there.

And still a lot to do down there...

JANUARY 22, 2009

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pattali
Jan 23, 2009, 8:47 AM
:tup:

But it's really hard to see works from the north core, and glad to see more steel from south tower memorial.

KingKrunch
Jan 23, 2009, 11:47 AM
Thanks for your constant updates NYguy!

Dac150
Jan 23, 2009, 5:39 PM
Obviously a very excellent site to see. Steel seems to be shooting up now, whether it's the FT or the memorial. Thanks for the updates NYguy!

photoLith
Jan 23, 2009, 6:06 PM
From Earthcam today

You can really make out the first memorial platform/foundation now. Now more than ever you can really get a sense as to where things are going to be.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/3219986953_abe6300bac_b.jpg

IF ANYONE HASNT SEEN THIS WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!! http://www.projectrebirth.org/trailer.php

Jonovision
Jan 23, 2009, 6:56 PM
That's an amazing little vid. I can't wait to see it when this is all done!

Wheelingman04
Jan 24, 2009, 2:04 AM
Thanks for all of the updates. This will be one awesome building.

NYguy
Jan 24, 2009, 12:33 PM
Steel seems to be shooting up now, whether it's the FT or the memorial. Thanks for the updates NYguy!

Well, no one can deny that there is any work going on at the WTC site, even with the delays on other towers. All anyone need do is pay a visit to the site to witness just how busy it is these days. But what is shown in these photos is just a drop in the bucket compared to what is to come...

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NYguy
Jan 24, 2009, 1:23 PM
lirena (http://flickr.com/photos/lirena/3219777406/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3219777406_d6ca0dea5c_b.jpg

drewmandan
Jan 24, 2009, 4:29 PM
Isn't that steel a little thin to be structural?

CSABA8
Jan 24, 2009, 5:52 PM
:previous: I think this steel is stable. It looks like any other permanent structural steel.

Dac150
Jan 24, 2009, 6:00 PM
4 WFC, GS, Verizon, and the FT are going to make quite the four corner effect when all is said and done. Looking up at that intersection is going to be amazing.

STERNyc
Jan 24, 2009, 6:45 PM
Isn't that steel a little thin to be structural?

Its not going to be perimeter steel its part of the core which will be covered with concrete.

BrownTown
Jan 24, 2009, 10:19 PM
Its not going to be perimeter steel its part of the core which will be covered with concrete.

I am relatively new to skyscraper construction, and have never heard of such a technique, is this something that has been used many other places, or is it something be used here do to the nature of the structure. Like the concrete and steel design makes it more able to withstand fire and terrorist attacks?

antinimby
Jan 25, 2009, 1:46 AM
The steel beams you see are not part of the core.

BrownTown, the beams may look thin but the engineers have calculated the loads they support and so they are more than thick enough for the job.

Austin55
Jan 25, 2009, 3:13 AM
Ive (like everyone else here) followed many projects from first proposal to toping out, but seeing the two memorials bieng outlined and the core and towers start is probably the most exciting thing ive seen so far. These pictures will be historicly valuable one day.

Thanks for the updates everyone.

STERNyc
Jan 25, 2009, 9:08 AM
I am relatively new to skyscraper construction, and have never heard of such a technique, is this something that has been used many other places, or is it something be used here do to the nature of the structure. Like the concrete and steel design makes it more able to withstand fire and terrorist attacks?

The perimeter structure will be steel so this allows the steel floor beams to attach to the steel under-layer of the core. Aside from openings for the connection the steel you see in the core will be encased in concrete.

thrillbilly
Jan 25, 2009, 2:48 PM
Has anyone taken a look at the Earthcam cam today? They're doing something around the crane from the looks of it.

theWatusi
Jan 25, 2009, 3:18 PM
The steel beams you see are not part of the core.


I think they are. All of those little "nubs" are for securing the beam insides of concrete.

CSABA8
Jan 25, 2009, 4:47 PM
I agree with antinimby. I think this steel too thick to be covered. And those little nails only top and the bottom of the steel beams, that's mean is some kind of support to the floors and ceiling.Or the concrete only goes uprightly between the beams.

meh_cd
Jan 25, 2009, 5:16 PM
Here's what it is, according to ZenSteelDude at WNY.


They fooled me by putting it together on top of fulton street but that is the "erecting steel". It serves 2 purposes, (1) to give the floor beams something to bolt too (2) acts as a header above openings in the core walls. Yes, it well all be encased within the core walls.

I really wasn't expecting it to go up at this time, I thought the core wasn't quite high enough. As you can see it starts about 35' above the ground floor and well be continued all the way to the roof.

The lower beam defines the 2nd floor, and the upper one the 3rd floor and if you look closely at the pic TheWtusi posted you can see the column closest to the camera is actually hanging in mid-air waiting for the north core.

2-TOWERS
Jan 25, 2009, 5:16 PM
this is going to be strong, no steel trusses here, let alone sheet rock...

Ghost
Jan 25, 2009, 5:25 PM
Nevermind, too slow :)

Dac150
Jan 25, 2009, 5:36 PM
I think they know what they're doing guys...

uaarkson
Jan 25, 2009, 6:16 PM
rofl, seriously. It's hilarious when people are skeptic of what the top engineers and architects in the world are doing. people did the same thing with the burj and wind resistance too.

Rizzo
Jan 25, 2009, 11:00 PM
^ They are all out to get us. "Hmmm, what can we build today to confuse all those skyscraper enthusiasts?" They could play cruel jokes like building frames with wood 2x4's