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NYguy
Jan 28, 2010, 1:44 AM
nyer82 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyer82/4310455668/sizes/l/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2748/4310455668_a54128521e_b.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4310457496_63e51f2747_b.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4310453428_11d284564e_b.jpg

Lecom
Jan 28, 2010, 2:11 AM
As per the last pic, 1WTC will look epic from the Trinity Church cemetery; their spires would actually make a nice tandem, bot the tallest buildings in New York upon completion. Maybe if you could somehow get those two and Woolworth and Park Row Builing in the same shot, no that would be quite a WTC history shot.

rich_200
Jan 28, 2010, 4:27 AM
As per the last pic, 1WTC will look epic from the Trinity Church cemetery; their spires would actually make a nice tandem, bot the tallest buildings in New York upon completion. Maybe if you could somehow get those two and Woolworth and Park Row Builing in the same shot, no that would be quite a WTC history shot.

That would be true only if 2WTC never gets built, if what you want is a clean shot.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 28, 2010, 2:38 PM
Significant progress, I hope the base is complete very soon!

Lecom
Jan 28, 2010, 6:39 PM
That would be true only if 2WTC never gets built, if what you want is a clean shot.

Well, it'd do the trick even if 1WTC is still under construction; besides, we'll have plenty of time to see 1WTC getting tall without 2WTC breaking street level.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 28, 2010, 7:09 PM
Well, it'd do the trick even if 1WTC is still under construction; besides, we'll have plenty of time to see 1WTC getting tall without 2WTC breaking street level.

Well, 1WTC will be visable in both cases. If both (1+2WTC) are complete, 1WTC will be visiable because it´s much more taller. At least you will see a part of the spire.:cool:

RicanX17
Jan 28, 2010, 7:43 PM
Here are some shots I took Saturday of WTC 1 from the Staten Island Ferry. You can see how high it's got. In 6 months it should start peeking over the surrounding buildings. At least the tops of the cranes will.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4312237272_23daef0bc5_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/4311501331_d95b502fe6_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4311502233_9189f46e46_b.jpg

Domamania
Jan 28, 2010, 8:32 PM
You know in that last photo of the 3 its seems like freedom tower will block the view of the verizon building in one year from now.

pj3000
Jan 28, 2010, 9:29 PM
Crap. I didn't know that Korea has already built the Freedom Tower.

http://www.songdo.com/Uploads/contentGalleries/e9a661d04c5a4ed988bfa9652da538fa.jpg




www.songdo.com

philvia
Jan 28, 2010, 9:44 PM
well at least that makes it easy to imagine what the finished 1wtc tower will look like lol. just imagine it twice as tall ^^

STrek777
Jan 28, 2010, 9:56 PM
Crap. I didn't know that Korea has already built the Freedom Tower.

http://www.songdo.com/Uploads/contentGalleries/e9a661d04c5a4ed988bfa9652da538fa.jpg




www.songdo.com

OMG why do i feel like the wind in my sails has just been knocked out. Ours won't even be done by the 10th aniversary and thisone is already topped out.

uaarkson
Jan 28, 2010, 10:14 PM
Aside from the front face, that building won't actually look anything like 1WTC. So don't worry. It's not even as tall.

NYguy
Jan 28, 2010, 10:43 PM
Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4312231816/sizes/l/) (Jan 28)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2723/4312231816_b9b574a904_b.jpg

JSsocal
Jan 28, 2010, 10:58 PM
OMG why do i feel like the wind in my sails has just been knocked out. Ours won't even be done by the 10th aniversary and thisone is already topped out.

Yeah. of you're curious that's the northeaast asia trade tower, and uuarkson's right, its only 1000 feet, and it looks totally different.

http://english.chosun.com/media/photo/news/200702/200702020005_01.jpg

Domamania
Jan 28, 2010, 11:23 PM
I never seen all that steel in a base of a building before. I even showed my grand father who worked in the construction business for 60 years and help build the original tower 1 said that not even he has seen all this steel be put in the base of a building. he said he remembers when he and others built the first tower 1 and he said that this base is like 7 times stronger then the original.

colemonkee
Jan 28, 2010, 11:31 PM
^ ^ I beg to differ. Aside from the triangular footprint and lack of a spire, there are some very striking similarities in form and finish. Sure, there are differences, but the average layperson, visiting the two cities separately, wouldn't be able to tell much of a difference from afar.

But back on topic, the progress over the last 2 days is very impressive. This thing is getting so big, it took me a while to find the "oh shit" in the southwest corner.

sw5710
Jan 29, 2010, 2:08 AM
^ ^ I beg to differ. Aside from the triangular footprint and lack of a spire, there are some very striking similarities in form and finish. Sure, there are differences, but the average layperson, visiting the two cities separately, wouldn't be able to tell much of a difference from afar.

But back on topic, the progress over the last 2 days is very impressive. This thing is getting so big, it took me a while to find the "oh shit" in the southwest corner.

Any idea as to when we might see the 1st red steel go up on floor 6?

uaarkson
Jan 29, 2010, 3:15 AM
probably mid february

steveve
Jan 29, 2010, 3:39 AM
wow! that building looks alot like it!

*I'm glad to see that one world trade centre will be unobstructed (almost completely) from certain angles :)

Gateway395
Jan 29, 2010, 3:42 AM
As per the last pic, 1WTC will look epic from the Trinity Church cemetery; their spires would actually make a nice tandem, bot the tallest buildings in New York upon completion. Maybe if you could somehow get those two and Woolworth and Park Row Builing in the same shot, no that would be quite a WTC history shot.

That shot is not Trinity Church cemetery but St Paul's, Trinity is futher down Broadway near Wall Street.

Puzzlecraft
Jan 29, 2010, 6:22 AM
From that one angle that tower in Korea (Northeast Asia Trade Tower) does look like 1 WTC, but looking at all of the photos on that website, the tower has a different look.

http://www.songdo.com/songdo-international-business-district/gallery/image-gallery.aspx/d=428/title=Northeast_Asia_Trade_Tower

NYguy
Jan 29, 2010, 6:41 AM
BTW, that's not the only tower to resemble the Freedom Tower design, which isn't all that unique. It won't be the last, so leave it at that and return the discussion to the tower at hand.


I never seen all that steel in a base of a building before. I even showed my grand father who worked in the construction business for 60 years and help build the original tower 1 said that not even he has seen all this steel be put in the base of a building. he said he remembers when he and others built the first tower 1 and he said that this base is like 7 times stronger then the original.

This tower is planned to be one of the most "robust" towers built, especially the base.

canadate
Jan 29, 2010, 1:04 PM
Any idea as to when we might see the 1st red steel go up on floor 6?

Photos I took yesterday. Hadn't been there in about a week and a half or two weeks..noticed a lot of changes. Also, I may have what you're talking about sw5710. Check out the ones of the north side. >>

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4467.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4466.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4468.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4471.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4473.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4474.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4475.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4478.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4480.jpg
^^ North blast wall

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4481.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4484.jpg
^^ This is a little off topic but can someone tell me about the concrete in this photo? I know behind it is the east-west connector but why does this look like a driveway..(kinda like at the GS)

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4491.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4492.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4493.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4497.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4498.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4502.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4504.jpg
^^ Soon Tower 1 will dominate here. Still don't understand why some of you hate the Goldman Sachs :rolleyes:

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4514.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4526.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4529.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4535.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4536.jpg

thenbagis
Jan 29, 2010, 1:50 PM
Thank yo, canadate, you never disappoint.

canadate
Jan 29, 2010, 2:01 PM
^^ You're welcome thenbagis. And thank you, I try not to. haha :tup:

BiggieSmalls
Jan 29, 2010, 2:19 PM
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4484.jpg
canadate wrote>>>can someone tell me about the concrete in this photo? I know behind it is the east-west connector but why does this look like a driveway..(kinda like at the GS)

is that green line a cut line?

the concrete wall seems to be above grade as is.

that will ultimately be the corner of Fulton and West streets.

great pics BTW!

canadate
Jan 29, 2010, 2:35 PM
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4484.jpg
canadate wrote>>>can someone tell me about the concrete in this photo? I know behind it is the east-west connector but why does this look like a driveway..(kinda like at the GS)

is that green line a cut line?

the concrete wall seems to be above grade as is.

that will ultimately be the corner of Fulton and West streets.

great pics BTW!

I don't know..I think it looks like it is. I think it's actually level. And you have a point..guess I was just shocked to see it, that wasn't there the last time I visited. And thanks!

theWatusi
Jan 29, 2010, 2:45 PM
I doubt that's a cut line. Why would the contractor pour the wall so high and waste so much concrete/labor only to remove the top?

BiggieSmalls
Jan 29, 2010, 3:04 PM
I doubt that's a cut line. Why would the contractor pour the wall so high and waste so much concrete/labor only to remove the top?

it looks about 6 feet over grade.

i dont know but that green line looks pretty close to the surrounding grade.

i remember they are doing something temporary over there so trucks can enter on Vescey .. traverse Fulton to a material drop point and then exit right around there. -- from RGZ it looks like they are filling the area with asphalt.. perhaps that is an asphalt grade line.

wish you coulda turned a little more to the left for that shot... but it is an area of high activity recently.. day and night.

uakoops
Jan 29, 2010, 3:09 PM
I don't know..I think it looks like it is. I think it's actually level. And you have a point..guess I was just shocked to see it, that wasn't there the last time I visited. And thanks!

More likely they are going to backfill with dirt to make a slope and the line shows the top of that.

canadate
Jan 29, 2010, 3:42 PM
More likely they are going to backfill with dirt to make a slope and the line shows the top of that.

Hmm..I can see that happening. Thanks!

And BiggieSmalls: I just realized that you're right about the wall being above grade. Took me a second there. hahaha

BiggieSmalls
Jan 29, 2010, 4:09 PM
it will be interesting to see that intersection develop..

from the rendering
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/8_31_WTC-by-DAY-September-08.jpg

hi res image here:
http://www.wtc.com/media/images/d/8_31_WTC-by-DAY-September-08.jpg

it looks like there will be wide corner steps from the plaza level to west street grade so Fulton will probably have a decent east/west down grade (like old Liberty street?)

the eastern north/south concourse on west street looks pretty wide so that wall could be a permanent part of the WTC plaza with steps going down ... as Fulton is only two lanes one way.( and mostly for car services)

we've already seen renderings with some significant steps from the north west WTC plaza to Vescey street level.


then again im not really sure how they fit 5 lanes of west street north bound and sourh bond AND a center median..

good stuff.

canadate
Jan 29, 2010, 4:36 PM
^^ yeah, you're right >> http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/G/h/freedomtowerWestPlaza_06-27-06.jpg

Puzzlecraft
Jan 29, 2010, 4:49 PM
Hi-rez is back up. New outer steel is up on the north side.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 29, 2010, 5:29 PM
THANK YOU ALL VERY VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT GREAT IMAGES!!

I can´t wait until this tower is getting much more taller. An icon is becoming reality!:banana: :banana: :banana: :cheers:

canadate
Jan 29, 2010, 5:39 PM
You're welcome OneWorldTradeCenter. And yes it is..won't be long now!

Zensteeldude
Jan 29, 2010, 11:06 PM
canadate wrote>>>can someone tell me about the concrete in this photo? I know behind it is the east-west connector but why does this look like a driveway..(kinda like at the GS)
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is that green line a cut line?

the concrete wall seems to be above grade as is.

that will ultimately be the corner of Fulton and West streets.

great pics BTW!

That is not a concrete wall, it looks like a temporary retaining structure, the green line is the fill line. Looks like that area is going to get clean fill (like on Fulton St.)

NYguy
Jan 30, 2010, 12:02 AM
More photos, some in large format to show the 'worker bees" in the hive...:)

JANUARY 29, 2010

A frigid day in the city...

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502347/original.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502427/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502454/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502458/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502458/original.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502464/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502464/original.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502488/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502509/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502569/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502583/original.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502591/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502600/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502606/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502628/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502637/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502690/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502696/original.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502714/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502753/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502767/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502839/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121503037/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121503101/large.jpg

23.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121503111/large.jpg

Bucktown718
Jan 30, 2010, 12:09 AM
Amazing Pictures, i just wonder how you made it out there today it was literally bricks out there

Zensteeldude
Jan 30, 2010, 12:09 AM
Great shots NYGuy !!!!

37TimPPG
Jan 30, 2010, 12:12 AM
Holy Crap! Those are some AWESOME pictures! ***drool!***

Plokoon11
Jan 30, 2010, 12:12 AM
Wow guys the first new floor beams are up now !

canadate
Jan 30, 2010, 12:37 AM
Amazing Pictures, i just wonder how you made it out there today it was literally bricks out there

I agree..we didn't even pass 22 degrees today. Glad I went yesterday! Cool photos NYguy :tup:

meh_cd
Jan 30, 2010, 12:42 AM
It was 4 degrees before the windchill here on the Plains. Maybe you guys should chill out. :cool:

\/\/\/ I know; just messing with you guys.

canadate
Jan 30, 2010, 1:07 AM
It was 4 degrees before the windchill here on the Plains. Maybe you guys should chill out. :cool:

It's worse when you're not used to it. lol. But sorry, back to the topic.

sw5710
Jan 30, 2010, 2:52 AM
Will the red steel go up on sat and sun?.

Domamania
Jan 30, 2010, 3:31 AM
Will the red steel go up on sat and sun?.

probly sat yes but sunday I dought it.

BStyles
Jan 30, 2010, 3:34 AM
From Canadate:
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4526.jpg

Now we can clearly see how far apart 1WTC and the verizon building are. I'm sure that answers a few questions about that corridor.

2-TOWERS
Jan 30, 2010, 4:20 AM
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ny Guy That Is One Heck Of A Photo Display....many Thanks From 70 Degrees Palm Springs!!!!!!!!!!i Am On This Site Like 10x A Day And Thhere Is Always Something New....... The Countdown Begins To The Floors!!!!!!!!!!!

QuarterMileSidewalk
Jan 30, 2010, 6:21 AM
Wow, NYGuy. Lookit all that pretty steel... Thanks for sharing those! ...Wow!

Cat 328D LCR
Jan 30, 2010, 1:00 PM
This one of the corner pieces on the trailer?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/corner.jpg

Domamania
Jan 30, 2010, 1:04 PM
This one of the corner pieces on the trailer?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/corner.jpg

can you circle it for me cause I cant see it.

Cat 328D LCR
Jan 30, 2010, 1:09 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/corner-1.jpg

It moved up to be lifted by the 18000 on the west side

Domamania
Jan 30, 2010, 1:53 PM
Thank you. I am just so excited to see this baby rise up.

Cat 328D LCR
Jan 30, 2010, 2:00 PM
heres where it went- north side

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/corner2.jpg

NYguy
Jan 30, 2010, 2:11 PM
Amazing Pictures, i just wonder how you made it out there today it was literally bricks out there

It was freezing, but I was dressed for it. Only problem is, I can't take photos with gloves on...;)


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/realestate/commercial/31SqFt.html

Square Feet | The 30-Minute Interview
Daniel R. Tishman

By VIVIAN MARINO
January 28, 2010

Q. So what’s the status of 1 World Trade Center?

A. We’ve completed what I like to say is the first building — a 700,000-square-foot structure underground to fill up the hole. You have to create the infrastructure to feed the building. What complicated things in its early stages was the fact that there were six operational PATH tubes running through the base of the building.

We’re up 150 to 200 feet in the air. Steel and concrete is going up, the labor force is ramping up. The completion date is mid-2013.

Q. What are some of the security features for this building?

A. The building will be extremely robust. I can’t tell you things specifically; you’ll have to ask the Port Authority. But one of the things that I’m excited about is the green building guidelines for all the buildings on the site. This building is striving to be the largest green building in America.

Indescribable
Jan 30, 2010, 3:39 PM
It was fridged up here in Ontario as well.

Domamania
Jan 30, 2010, 3:43 PM
[QUOTE=Cat 328D LCR;4674133]heres where it went- north side

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/corner2.jpg[/QU
why does that colomn look much thicker then the other red colomns put right below it previously on previous floors.

xnyr
Jan 30, 2010, 8:14 PM
Great pics NYGuy!

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121502583/original.jpg

I like your sense of composition...Not to mention the construction details you're giving us "out-of-towners"

Upward
Jan 30, 2010, 8:38 PM
Thanks for your HUGE pics, NYGuy! Great eyecandy on a 24" screen.

I like being able to see the workers not only in the most zoomed-in shots but in some wider views. It really emphasizes the massive scale of the building. It's too easy to forget when seeing these "stump" pictures that I'm looking at something with about the same footprint as the original towers.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 31, 2010, 10:01 AM
They started now with the last base floor.

NYguy
Jan 31, 2010, 2:23 PM
^ Everything seems to be on schedule...

http://lowermanhattan.info/news/new_steel_steadily_setting_63429.aspx

the steel superstructure of 1 World Trade Center is making constant visible progress having reached 155 feet.
Those base floors will serve the buildings mechanicals, with actual tenant floors 20 through 90 which will begin
to rise in February.

Looking forward to it.


Thanks for your HUGE pics, NYGuy! Great eyecandy on a 24" screen.

It's amazing, we're just getting the base wrapped up, and it's like we've already seen a major portion of the tower rise.



A few more pics from Friday (January 29th)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121547709/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121547709/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121547681/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121547671/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/121547900/original.jpg

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 31, 2010, 3:54 PM
Thanks NY-guy, for all that amazing pictures.

An update from Rebuild Ground Zero:

http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg?refresh=60&altText=Groud+Zero+Webcam+-+Rebuild+Ground+Zero+.org&camImgY=768&camImgX=960&imageurl=http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg

RoldanTTLB
Jan 31, 2010, 7:00 PM
Hey, I don't want to tell anyone how to live their lives, but if you're going to post the "current" image from the rebuild cam, please download the jpg, upload it to your own photo hosting, and post it from there. When you direct link to the cam, it's always just the newest picture here and we have no record of what's happened, just a bunch of the same exact image posted repeatedly. Thanks!

2-TOWERS
Feb 1, 2010, 3:46 AM
With Those Close Ups, And I Mean Extreme Closeups , You Can Clearly See Its A A Double Steel Tube .... Thanks Ny-guy

CHAPINM1
Feb 1, 2010, 4:57 AM
OneWorldTradeCenter, don't let any of those naysayers discourage you. Any contributions on here are very important and appreciated! Plus, the live cam updates serve great to us forumers who aren't in town very often with convenient live updates! Just my two cents anyway... ;)

toymatz121
Feb 1, 2010, 11:59 AM
http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/67/76/16536776/2_456913256l.jpg

What's this? Its been like that for a long time now...Overlooked maybe? Would that affect its integrity? Just asking...:)

OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 1, 2010, 2:37 PM
Thanks for the notes. I won´t post any pictures from Rebuild Ground Zero anymore, because the quality of those pictures is poor. I know.... just wanted to update the page here...:D

bkraig4life
Feb 1, 2010, 5:04 PM
Is it just me, or does this seem to at no pattern? Every time a new floor begins I expect it to follow the same procedure, Right now you see the south side with the big floor supports, then the north side seems like fill in with the smaller floor supports. I know will get done at same time, just makes me nuts that it doesnt go at the same pattern all the way around. Maybe a little OCD on my part!

MadGnome
Feb 1, 2010, 7:29 PM
Is it just me, or does this seem to at no pattern? Every time a new floor begins I expect it to follow the same procedure, Right now you see the south side with the big floor supports, then the north side seems like fill in with the smaller floor supports. I know will get done at same time, just makes me nuts that it doesnt go at the same pattern all the way around. Maybe a little OCD on my part!

Too much changing too fast on the outer wall. Once they transition to the office floors and get the two other cranes up things should get a little more routine.
Zen seems sceptical about the floor a week plan, and he knows more than anybody about this beast, but a floor every week and a half might be doable. The schedule seems to point to that.

Maybe if you wrote 1,000 times "I do not have OCD"....

OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 1, 2010, 7:47 PM
Too much changing too fast on the outer wall. Once they transition to the office floors and get the two other cranes up things should get a little more routine.
Zen seems sceptical about the floor a week plan, and he knows more than anybody about this beast, but a floor every week and a half might be doable. The schedule seems to point to that.

Maybe if you wrote 1,000 times "I do not have OCD"....

Two more cranes? When will they erect them?

Zensteeldude
Feb 2, 2010, 12:18 AM
I expect them to put up 2 more tower cranes after they reach the 21st floor. (The 20th floor is going in now)

Then they well take down big red, (east side) and move bigger red over to the transit hub. (The 18000 may be joined by one or 2 even bigger crawlers!)

MadGnome is right, I well believe the "floor a week" when I see it. Topping out is suposta happen in late 2011 so that gives them about 100 weeks to erect 86 floors. (92 actual floors minus what's already up)

I think the Tower well open as planed in late (September 11th ?!?) 2013.

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 2, 2010, 12:46 AM
I expect them to put up 2 more tower cranes after they reach the 21st floor. (The 20th floor is going in now)

Then they well take down big red, (east side) and move bigger red over to the transit hub. (The 18000 may be joined by one or 2 even bigger crawlers!)

MadGnome is right, I well believe the "floor a week" when I see it. Topping out is suposta happen in late 2011 so that gives them about 100 weeks to erect 86 floors. (92 actual floors minus what's already up)

I think the Tower well open as planed in late (September 11th ?!?) 2013.


Lomma does have a Manitowoc 21000. Its working in Kearney NJ at a Co-gen. plant so I hear. It's a 1000 ton crane. Maybe that will be at the site?

I did hear from a friend that Lomma has bought another 18000.

Domamania
Feb 2, 2010, 12:54 AM
why are they moving big red from the tower?

uakoops
Feb 2, 2010, 1:14 AM
Lomma does have a Manitowoc 21000. Its working in Kearney NJ at a Co-gen. plant so I hear. It's a 1000 ton crane. Maybe that will be at the site?

I did hear from a friend that Lomma has bought another 18000.

Wow that's a beast. It sits on 8 crawlers!

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 2, 2010, 1:23 AM
Wow that's a beast. It sits on 8 crawlers!

It's a monster. I seen one in Ohio before, its huge. I hope they bring it to work on the hub.

NYguy
Feb 2, 2010, 1:28 AM
Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4323026126/sizes/l/) (Feb 1)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2704/4323026126_5dda051ffd_b.jpg

Zensteeldude
Feb 2, 2010, 1:34 AM
Posted by Derek2k3 over at WNY. "From Saturday" If you look at the pic above in NYGguy's post, the first pic is the connector to the right and the other one is the connector in the center.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2791/4323189289_5b3853cf36_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4323189303_04d0b7daea_o.jpg

MadGnome
Feb 2, 2010, 12:55 PM
It's hard to get a sense of scale on those connectors in a photo of the whole building. Seeing them spilling over the sides of an 8 1/2' trailer really brings em into perspective.

Domamania
Feb 2, 2010, 4:56 PM
Wow today a lot of steel went up. the put ahve put up aleast 20 floor joists up and 4 outer red colomns up. i think by next wed the floor will be complete.

bkraig4life
Feb 2, 2010, 5:32 PM
Wow, alot of weight on there! 17000 lb per drive and trailer axle, and 12000 lb for drive is 131000 lb, tractor probably around 24000 to 28000 w trailor around 20000, would leave around 83000 for legal load, probably closer to 60000 for what street limit is, (dont Know what limt is for that many axles) but one hell of a load! Not drive but steer axle!

OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 2, 2010, 5:40 PM
Great! However, we need more cranes on site...

genop
Feb 3, 2010, 1:32 AM
Wow, alot of weight on there! 17000 lb per drive and trailer axle, and 12000 lb for drive is 131000 lb, tractor probably around 24000 to 28000 w trailor around 20000, would leave around 83000 for legal load, probably closer to 60000 for what street limit is, (dont Know what limt is for that many axles) but one hell of a load! Not drive but steer axle!

Nah not that heavy of a load. I used to drive a tractor trailer and hauled heavy equipment and thats pretty much a standard heavy hauler lowboy trailer. We would typically keep the same trailer on most of the time unless it would be a real heavy permit load.

Highrise_Mike
Feb 3, 2010, 5:21 AM
Wow I can't believe the size of those connector pieces! That thing wouldn't fit in my garage! It is awesome to see this project coming together, next thing we know this guy will be topped out.

bkraig4life
Feb 3, 2010, 3:31 PM
Genop, just a question, we generally send our trucks out with no more than 44000, regular 18 wheeler, would a lower weight than what I said require that many axles on tractor and trailer, and is it because of the small size of the piece and where it is located on flat bed that would require the extra? Weight distribution? I would love to see pics of corners coming in on the flat beds!

uakoops
Feb 3, 2010, 3:39 PM
Wow I can't believe the size of those connector pieces! That thing wouldn't fit in my garage! It is awesome to see this project coming together, next thing we know this guy will be topped out.

Those connectors look like the "ghosts" from PacMan...

Surrealplaces
Feb 3, 2010, 6:58 PM
It's great to see this one starting to move at a faster pace!

OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 3, 2010, 7:11 PM
Steel has reached the 20th story!!!! The PA reported that on their website!!!
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/index.html

:banana: :banana: :banana: :cheers: :cheers:

Puzzlecraft
Feb 3, 2010, 8:14 PM
Looks like 20 1-WTC floors are about 13 Verizon floors.

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 3, 2010, 8:24 PM
Any body know when the corner pieces will be added? Thinking some time soon. I'm really looking forward to see the size of them

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 3, 2010, 8:29 PM
HD earth cam is frozen again

Joe
Feb 3, 2010, 9:48 PM
20 floors include the 4 floors below street level.

BStyles
Feb 3, 2010, 9:56 PM
No, 20 floors means from the lobby up, with the lobby being the height of roughly 8 floors, then 6 mechanical floors with 5 in between, labeled (floor number)M. Then floor 20. Basement levels would have the number B beside them, and they're below sea level.

I think the corner nodes go in last (probably next, since about 1/2 the floor is up), when the rest of the 20th floor is erected to connect them to and hold them in place.

Zensteeldude
Feb 3, 2010, 10:51 PM
Any body know when the corner pieces will be added? Thinking some time soon. I'm really looking forward to see the size of them

Looks like it well be another week or 2. Maybe longer if they have to get the core steel for the 21st-22nd floors in place first. if they put em in before more core steel goes up they well stick up about 30 feet above existing steel. And that's just the lower 2/3rds !

Zensteeldude
Feb 3, 2010, 10:52 PM
Here we go again. 20 is just a number on an elevator button.

NEW YORK (AP/1010 WINS) -- The tower that will be known as 1 World Trade Center has reached the equivalent of the 20th floor.

Zensteeldude
Feb 3, 2010, 11:06 PM
20 floors include the 4 floors below street level.

There are 5 sub-grade levels.

evanmack
Feb 3, 2010, 11:45 PM
That is so awesome, the connectors are finally be placed.

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 3, 2010, 11:53 PM
Looks like it well be another week or 2. Maybe longer if they have to get the core steel for the 21st-22nd floors in place first. if they put em in before more core steel goes up they well stick up about 30 feet above existing steel. And that's just the lower 2/3rds !

Wow, 30 feet, they are big.

I was reading here :

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/index.html

under the 2nd pic is says something about them weighing just about 175 tons each...

Zensteeldude
Feb 4, 2010, 12:14 AM
The PA tends to exaggerate, but just a little. The corner nodes are a toatal of 90 feet in hight and are solid steel. The lower sections are about 60 feet high.

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 4, 2010, 12:20 AM
I thought 175 tons was alittle to high, the cranes can't lift that I'm pretty sure