NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS [Archive] - Page 176

Matt

Nov 5, 2011, 10:41 PM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6213/6315025213_aa0583afe7_z.jpg

This picture really conveys the mass and bulk that 1 WTC will provide in nearly the same space as the original twins. The building still has a way more to rise, too. But looking south, the building almost perfectly restores the same exact presence as the original twin towers. It fills the void that has been missing there for so long... and one that we are so familiar with :) If you glanced at the photo real quick, you could almost mistake it for a pre-2001 photo. Amazing...

nydavid

Nov 5, 2011, 11:05 PM

I just took these pictures from a veiwing scope in Yonkers NY

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/mansonite520/nycyonkers1.jpg

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1 wtc with george washington bridge in the foreground

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/mansonite520/nycyonkers3.jpg

NYC panorama from Yonkers NY :) I cant wait to retake this picture when the building is complete!

uaarkson

Nov 5, 2011, 11:26 PM

This picture really conveys the mass and bulk that 1 WTC will provide in nearly the same space as the original twins. The building still has a way more to rise, too. But looking south, the building almost perfectly restores the same exact presence as the original twin towers. It fills the void that has been missing there for so long... and one that we are so familiar with :) If you glanced at the photo real quick, you could almost mistake it for a pre-2001 photo. Amazing...

When all four towers are complete it could even be more massive than the twin towers.

SkylineFan

Nov 5, 2011, 11:26 PM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6096/6316121651_5b3b802127_b.jpg

Snapped this about 30 mins ago. This tower is HUGE when you are standing almost next to it.

steveve

Nov 6, 2011, 1:07 AM

Snapped this about 30 mins ago. This tower is HUGE when you are standing almost next to it.

i dunno.. for me, it's a bit of both. i remember seeing it last month, seeing how huge it was on the skyline, but up close, sometimes it seems shorter than it is ... i guess box towers look much taller... i think it's the shape that makes it look sleek. or maybe because you can see each individual floor and it's so transparent, and the base is covered up so it takes away 20 floors... i dunno. maybe it's just me,

SkylineFan

Nov 6, 2011, 1:37 AM

i dunno.. for me, it's a bit of both. i remember seeing it last month, seeing how huge it was on the skyline, but up close, sometimes it seems shorter than it is ... i guess box towers look much taller... i think it's the shape that makes it look sleek. or maybe because you can see each individual floor and it's so transparent, and the base is covered up so it takes away 20 floors... i dunno. maybe it's just me,

Don't worry, it's still got a LOT more to go. It will look extremely tall when it's complete. I was passing by the Empire State Building last night and I remember looking up at it thinking "Oh my gosh, that thing is huge!" And that's only at 1,250 ft. I couldn't imagine 1,373!

SkylineFan

Nov 6, 2011, 3:21 AM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6102/6317226218_542cb4d67c_z.jpg

Took a cab down to the Financial District just to get a picture of this beautiful beast for you guys! :D

flemington

Nov 6, 2011, 4:47 AM

The picture is good, SkylineFan! Keep on posting. It's also interesting, if someone here on the forum could make some photos from the upper floors these days.

And as for the topping out schedule, I guess it will be impossible to complete the top floor till the New Year. Provided that the building rises 1 floor a week, the topping out should take place in February (plus if the weather is OK). IMO.

Yankee fan for life

Nov 6, 2011, 5:21 AM

261 more feet to go until topping out can't wait .:)

N830MH

Nov 6, 2011, 8:01 AM

261 more feet to go until topping out can't wait .:)

Yeah! I can't wait!! I can't wait to be completion new WTC.

Zapatan

Nov 6, 2011, 9:32 AM

i dunno.. for me, it's a bit of both. i remember seeing it last month, seeing how huge it was on the skyline, but up close, sometimes it seems shorter than it is ... i guess box towers look much taller... i think it's the shape that makes it look sleek. or maybe because you can see each individual floor and it's so transparent, and the base is covered up so it takes away 20 floors... i dunno. maybe it's just me,

I think that phenomenon happens with all buildings.. I remember seeing ESB or even Sears tower from 2 or 3 blocks away and thinking, DAMN that is a massive tower, but once you're right next to it, you can't tell how big it is anymore.

I think 1WTC could even look taller than a box though because of how it tapers a bit on the corners, giving it a dissapearing into the sky affect.

CarlosV

Nov 6, 2011, 11:58 AM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/6318187752_cbc1151136_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6318187752/)
DSC_4092 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6318187752/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

CarlosV

Nov 6, 2011, 12:03 PM

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CarlosV

Nov 6, 2011, 12:10 PM

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rider15

Nov 6, 2011, 1:15 PM

Carlos you have amazing photos of 1WTC ,good job buddy,can you tell me what camera do you use ?

sterlippo1

Nov 6, 2011, 1:29 PM

Don't worry, it's still got a LOT more to go. It will look extremely tall when it's complete. I was passing by the Empire State Building last night and I remember looking up at it thinking "Oh my gosh, that thing is huge!" And that's only at 1,250 ft. I couldn't imagine 1,373!

i believe it is "only" about 1150 right now so it has even more to go than you think;)...........

CarlosV

Nov 6, 2011, 1:33 PM

Carlos you have amazing photos of 1WTC ,good job buddy,can you tell me what camera do you use ?

sure i have a Nikon D5000 with a 50mm, 300mm, & 800mm lenses ...multiple filters, tripods, etc...besides skyscrapers, and bodybuilding, my biggest hobby...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6317775085_9fa1fa2cff_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6317775085/)
DSC_4090 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6317775085/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

2-TOWERS

Nov 6, 2011, 2:04 PM

Carlos its taken forever for the glass to reach above # 7 for your view... anyway as always great zoom in shots....your main hobby !!!!!:D

Alliance

Nov 6, 2011, 2:13 PM

Tower 1 continues to be unfathomably bland and a major disappointment given what we had the opportunity to build.

1.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6038/6316796051_646e047be7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23169212@N07/6316796051/)

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3.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6116/6316803069_3df8071a06_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23169212@N07/6316803069/)

I love this base though. I hope the unique concrete structure comes through the final base cladding.

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fountainhead

Nov 6, 2011, 3:28 PM

^^^ Agreed. The more it comes along, the seemingly more generic it appears to be.

meh_cd

Nov 6, 2011, 3:59 PM

I completely disagree. The higher it goes and the more glass that goes up the better it looks. I think it is fine and suits the spot quite well.

Of course people can't help but feel a little disappointed when we will soon have giant superblock scissored twin towers going up in Hudson Yards, but it's almost 10 years after the initial design competition now. But I can't help imagine what it would have been like to have those suckers downtown. The NYPD would have trashed that design too, though.

aquablue

Nov 6, 2011, 4:26 PM

I can say it's far better than anything else in this country in terms of modern skyscrapers, boring or not. It is a very high quality and tower that is dignified it its presence and doesn't try to 'be' anything or attract attention with any ostentation, which serves it's purpose rightly.

Anyway, it is a compromise building in a sensitive location. It seems like a very innovative or audacious design would have never happened here due to all the political wrangling with victims, locals, police, politcos, different archs etc.. It couldn't appear to be some kind of Taj Mahal stunning ground-breaking landmark again IMO due to the history of the site and the 'too many cooks' factor.

IF 2 WTC is built, it will form a fantastic contrast and reduce the plainness of this building. Also, the glass is just fantastic and really brings new light into a dark and forbidding area full of narrow dark streets of dull grey stone. It is just a highly modern, sleek Tower that is far better in terms of looks IMO than the original towers despite its smaller girth.

Zapatan

Nov 6, 2011, 4:53 PM

The should have still built it taller... it's absurd to build something the exact same height as one of the twins, there aren't even two of them. Doesn't really show we've defeated terrorism does it?

But alas, it will look at least decent when finished I think. Even though it could have been a real 1776 footer to the roof that was very beautiful, hopefully better buildings come along in NYC.

Still excited to see it finish though. I think it's still alright, we had the opportunity to build something great and we built something mediocre to decent, still better than some of the other proposals though.

aquablue

Nov 6, 2011, 5:27 PM

Sure, they should always build taller. Anyone can say that. Doesn't mean it's possible or cost effective to do so. NY is a money driven city first and foremost, i think it is obvious that symbolism ( like building taller to defeat terrorists) comes after sound practical financial matters. Also, making it stick out too much by being very tall or grandiose as a defiant gesture might have been a security problem.

Roadcruiser1

Nov 6, 2011, 5:43 PM

Again with the Twin Towers? Come one they have been gone for 10 years now it's time to get over them.

SearsTower

Nov 6, 2011, 5:48 PM

I wonder how many floors they'll put up on the next steel jump, since the floors are all different sizes now. Maybe 3 more? :D

Onn

Nov 6, 2011, 5:48 PM

I think you're only bored with it because you've been looking at it for months already. I mean, if you want to see some real stinko supertalls go to China. I think you would find they are even more generic looking than Tower 1. At least the materials here are of pretty high quality!

The North One

Nov 6, 2011, 5:57 PM

Tower 1 continues to be unfathomably bland and a major disappointment given what we had the opportunity to build.

:gtfo2:

Yankee fan for life

Nov 6, 2011, 5:59 PM

Alliance
NEW YORK | CHICAGO

Tower 1 continues to be unfathomably bland and a major disappointment given what we had the opportunity to build.

To each its own but don't state your opinion as fact.

QUEENSNYMAN

Nov 6, 2011, 6:22 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxO428gb9-4

Onn

Nov 6, 2011, 6:24 PM

Great shots still!

QUEENSNYMAN

Nov 6, 2011, 6:27 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz3wP12MDZg

Onn

Nov 6, 2011, 6:30 PM

Epic shot here from Roger_T (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rotscher/6317567675/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

elysium

Nov 6, 2011, 6:36 PM

Tower 1 continues to be unfathomably bland and a major disappointment given what we had the opportunity to build.

And what would you have wanted in its place? A facade with more ornamentation? An abstract shape?

QUEENSNYMAN

Nov 6, 2011, 6:45 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkyWZrwMuFk

fountainhead

Nov 6, 2011, 6:56 PM

And what would you have wanted in its place? A facade with more ornamentation? An abstract shape?

I think a lot of people were hoping that a new icon would be born, as would befit such an undertaking. To what form it should have been is besides the point, his comment, and rightfully so, was that it was an opportunity lost.

That said, I'll reserve my final judgment until it's complete, but I remain skeptical as well. However, like I said 50 pages or so back, it's great to see Lower Manhattan regain its Mont Saint Michele aspect.

CarlosV

Nov 6, 2011, 7:10 PM

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mrnyc

Nov 6, 2011, 7:13 PM

there is nothing to be skeptical about here. most of us are in agreement. the tower is a rather bland design and one that is not tall enough to make a more dramatic statement. however, that is offset by the somewhat interesting antenna crown and base that seem like they will provide some personality and also by the surprisingly high quality of the glass facade materials. given the incredible politics behind it, i think its fine. im looking forward to the base, the crown and the interiors. if people still want their socks knocked off by pizzazz, hang on, there is still a chance calatrava might do it. :tup:

elysium

Nov 6, 2011, 7:14 PM

I think a lot of people were hoping that a new icon would be born, as would befit such an undertaking. To what form it should have been is besides the point, his comment, and rightfully so, was that it was an opportunity lost.

To say it's an opportunity lost depends on what outcome you were hoping for, not on some potential outcome that has no form. If you have no alternative you can describe, it's pointless to say any opportunity was seized or lost. It's just meaningless expression that can't be elaborated upon, discussed, or understood. For all you know, his condition for a seized opportunity in this scenario could have been the construction of a giant sculpture of himself, in which case you'd likely agree this was another opportunity lost.

2-TOWERS

Nov 6, 2011, 7:14 PM

Cool shot there Carlos....

THE BIG APPLE

Nov 6, 2011, 7:24 PM

Happy Eid Ul Adiah - Eid Mubarak

today, tomorrow, and the day after we (muslims) remember the sacrifices of the great prophet of god Abraham

HERE IS A MAMMOTH PHOTO UPDATE (not best quality)

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THE BIG APPLE

Nov 6, 2011, 7:37 PM

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In this photo 1WTC is hard to spot. It's behind the tree on the right. See it?

m0by

Nov 6, 2011, 7:40 PM

In my eyes 1WTC will fit perfectly in to the skyline of LM! It will have the perfect high.
Just compare it to Dubai. They build higher and higher and imo it doesn't look as good and as well-balanced as the skyline of NYC!

And remember, 1WTC and the whole complex is a symbol for what New York lost in 2001!

And even with 1.787' it will be a MONSTER!!! :banana:

THE BIG APPLE

Nov 6, 2011, 7:40 PM

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EVERYONE ENJOY THE MARATHON AND HAVE A HAPPY SAFE EID

CarlosV

Nov 6, 2011, 8:29 PM

Cool shot there Carlos....

:tup:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6214/6319504566_916ce6323d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6319504566/)
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Dac150

Nov 6, 2011, 8:57 PM

Wow, almost to the top! Think about how far this has come, really amazing.

Davidsam52

Nov 6, 2011, 9:30 PM

RE: Gulf gas station photo: Gas in NJ is cheap!:)

sw5710

Nov 6, 2011, 9:49 PM

SkylineFan

Nov 6, 2011, 11:35 PM

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http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6100/6320382380_57cfae4304_z.jpg

My pics of the WTC from today! :)

SkylineFan

Nov 6, 2011, 11:36 PM

:tup:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6214/6319504566_916ce6323d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6319504566/)
DSC_4092a copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6319504566/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

What a MAGNIFICENT visual! :banana:

QUEENSNYMAN

Nov 6, 2011, 11:47 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vti1537lFAU

fountainhead

Nov 6, 2011, 11:58 PM

To say it's an opportunity lost depends on what outcome you were hoping for, not on some potential outcome that has no form. If you have no alternative you can describe, it's pointless to say any opportunity was seized or lost. It's just meaningless expression that can't be elaborated upon, discussed, or understood. For all you know, his condition for a seized opportunity in this scenario could have been the construction of a giant sculpture of himself, in which case you'd likely agree this was another opportunity lost.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, because really I don't dislike the building, but...

The outcome could have assumed many wildy different forms and still have established a structure that achieves prominence. After all this is supposed to be a building that denotes strength and confidence in New York's stature within global trade. Or at least reinvented what that means.

As the building has started to take the shape of its final form, and it has for all intents and purposes, it's clearly not such a building. There's little weight or presence to it. It could have been 20 stories higher and alas the same thing.

Meier's proposal, even with its lack of verticality, presented one of the few really strong gestures that might have eventually given downtown a new dimension. It was certainly thought provoking. The Empire State, the Chrysler, the Guggenheim, etc were all completely out of context when built, only contributing to their specialness within the urban fabric.

Anyway, good to see the area rebounding.

uaarkson

Nov 7, 2011, 12:42 AM

Please spare us posts like that until you've seen the building completed. How many times must it be said?

fountainhead

Nov 7, 2011, 1:04 AM

Please spare us posts like that until you've seen the building completed. How many times must it be said?

Well the building is essentially complete, what better time to start being objective. Do you think it's going to grow a tail at this point?

uaarkson

Nov 7, 2011, 1:12 AM

Well the building is essentially complete, what better time to start being objective. Do you think it's going to grow a tail at this point?

You call this objective?

As the building has started to take the shape of its final form, and it has for all intents and purposes, it's clearly not such a building. There's little weight or presence to it. It could have been 20 stories higher and alas the same thing.

Little weight or presence? Have you seen this thing in person in the last few weeks? That describes the opposite of this tower.

Kevin Scott Koepke

Nov 7, 2011, 1:51 AM

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I lift my lamp beside the golden door. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6320252053/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

Please do not repost, copy, or otherwise reproduce this image. Thank you:banana:

Yankee fan for life

Nov 7, 2011, 1:58 AM

patrick989

Nov 7, 2011, 2:20 AM

What a MAGNIFICENT visual! :banana:

The overlap with the remaining floors to be constructed is wrong, it's gonna be a little taller than what he showed on that pic.

Otie

Nov 7, 2011, 2:48 AM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6056/6319910106_d03a7dcde3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailym/6319910106/)
Manhattan Skyline from Staten Island (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailym/6319910106/) by DailyM = Differentieel + JeeeM (http://www.flickr.com/people/dailym/), on Flickr

CarlosV

Nov 7, 2011, 4:42 AM

Carlos: The cranes are free standing from the 86th floor at 1,066' 8'' and equivalent to 20 office floors above that or 270'. Near the future roof height. They have not yet cleared the future parapet height of 1,368' or the top of the ring at 1,401'

like this?

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sw5710

Nov 7, 2011, 5:30 AM

Yes that overlap looks about the right height. Wow 4 WTC is about to clear 7WTC. Carlos can you also get a extreme close up of the top of 7WTC and the current position of the glass on 1 WTC behind it.

m0by

Nov 7, 2011, 8:36 AM

ONE WTC truly will be the king of NYC!!!

Do they need the same time to build the new floors than for the smaller floors?

JSsocal

Nov 7, 2011, 10:13 AM

The setback looks like it will occur when the 750 foot mark is reached, there will probably be a series of transfer floors for the exterior columns

sterlippo1

Nov 7, 2011, 11:47 AM

I think a lot of people were hoping that a new icon would be born, as would befit such an undertaking.

However, like I said 50 pages or so back, it's great to see Lower Manhattan regain its Mont Saint Michele aspect.

I think a new icon is being born right in front of our eyes, just be patient;).....................and i love the Mont St Michel reference, to me the most incredible piece of real estate i've ever seen:worship:

NYguy

Nov 7, 2011, 1:08 PM

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Roger_T (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rotscher/6317567675/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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A little older

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CarlosV

Nov 7, 2011, 2:28 PM

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CarlosV

Nov 7, 2011, 4:08 PM

...Carlos can you also get a extreme close up of the top of 7WTC and the current position of the glass on 1 WTC behind it.

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sw5710

Nov 7, 2011, 4:14 PM

(Thanks) :)

pnapp1

Nov 7, 2011, 7:03 PM

chris123678

Nov 7, 2011, 8:47 PM

3 trucks of steel arrived at the site this morning at 5AM. They sat there until 9AM never to be offloaded. Cranes have not moved all day. It's clear and not windy at all. What's going on? Anyone hear anything?

I had the same question. I live in Philadelphia, but i come to this blog everyday. Wondering why they have not put perimeter columns up yet. Maybe they encountered a problem.

NYguy

Nov 7, 2011, 10:04 PM

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/readying-a-destination-at-new-yorks-new-summit/

Readying a Destination at New York’s New Summit

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By DAVID W. DUNLAP
November 7, 2011

With every passing week, 1 World Trade Center can be seen from more and more places around New York and New Jersey, which means that more and more places can be seen from 1 World Trade Center.

Which means that it’s time to start thinking about who will operate the observation deck, opening in the summer of 2014. It is to occupy 85,000 square feet on the 100th, 101st and 102nd floors of the tower. The uppermost floor slab will be 1,268 feet above ground level; slightly higher than the aerie atop the Empire State Building (1,250 feet) but — as The Wall Street Journal noted — considerably lower than the Skydeck Chicago (1,353 feet), atop the Tower Formerly Known as Sears.

At the Tower Formerly Known as Freedom, the observation deck will have its own underground lobby on the west side of the building, to isolate visitors from office tenants. Five high-speed elevators will shoot visitors to the deck at 2,000 feet a minute...The Durst Organization and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, co-developers under the name Tower 1 Joint Venture L.L.C., have begun to cast their net for a likely operator. In their request for statements of qualification, they said that about five million visitors a year are expected at the World Trade Center site and that they were “open to creative ideas” for the observation deck.

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A floor plan of the uppermost level of the observation deck at 1 World Trade Center shows the diamond shape resulting from tower’s tapering sides. This angled perspective should create dynamic vistas.

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Otie

Nov 7, 2011, 11:54 PM

^Just as I thought, restaurant service elevator gone, yet the shuttle elevator will remain.

Alpha Sky

Nov 8, 2011, 12:31 AM

Some recent pixs of WTC1 on Nov 7, 2011

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22935878@N06/6324243810/

steveve

Nov 8, 2011, 2:28 AM

Alliance

Nov 8, 2011, 3:53 AM

^^^ Sounds like hes ok. I wish him a speedy recovery.

Sure, they should always build taller. Anyone can say that. Doesn't mean it's possible or cost effective to do so. NY is a money driven city first and foremost, i think it is obvious that symbolism ( like building taller to defeat terrorists) comes after sound practical financial matters. Also, making it stick out too much by being very tall or grandiose as a defiant gesture might have been a security problem.

I think that's a lot of excuses. This is not a market-driven building. Its mostly paid for by Silverstien's insurance policy, with the rest coming from the State and City of New York. Rents at these towers are subsidized by New York State to make them more attractive to renters. This project was not limited financially or constrained by market forces in any sort of typical fashion. The State and City would make sure this tower was a success regardless, because of the sentiments of reconstruction.

I'm all for building intelligently, considering the wishes of the victims, and respecting the site. I think this current plan did all those things, but other plans did too. What this plan didn't give us was good architecture. The best architecture is innovative, solving real-world problems (in this case, a fortress skyscraper) by creating beautiful spaces. I think we missed an opportunity to build something great, and instead just built something to build it. In 2002 we were talking much smaller buildings, and when they moved up from that, they never considered the ability to move taller. The original creativity of Libeskind's design was VE'ed out to a sterile corporatism instead of giving this site the respect I think it deserved. In the end, we lost on both fronts. The height it deserved was never achieved, but more importantly the 4 buildings on the site proper never were given a pleasing aesthetic. I dont see the sense of higher purpose I feel these (well all, but especially these) buildings should have.

While there are plenty of flaws/debate about Libeskind's original design, it has a sense of vision, awsomeness, and uniqueness that 1WTC and the final plan clearly lack.

http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx333/m2kmalone/WTCIIMix.jpg

And the last sentence is just silly, considering the current building is the exact same height as the former.

NYguy

Nov 8, 2011, 7:27 AM

This is not a debate about competing wtc plans. There is a thread for those that wish to discuss that. This is the construction thread.

car2004

Nov 8, 2011, 8:01 AM

I think a new icon is being born right in front of our eyes, just be patient;).....................and i love the Mont St Michel reference, to me the most incredible piece of real estate i've ever seen:worship:

I do not think anyone could have said it better:D. NYC RULES!!!!

car2004

Nov 8, 2011, 8:23 AM

nice article find ^^^... wow... knowing that tower 2 is going to way tower than tower 1 currently is, is freaking impressive! I think tower 2 is going to be the most impressive out of the 4, the massive squares at the top will be stunning,... for me, from certain angles, tower 2 overly dominates tower 2 in terms of bulkiness... but the whole complex is just awesome all together.,
IMO, tower 2 (or any other tower in the complex) is more suited for a public attraction like the observation deck, not only does tower 2 have a bigger footprint/1st floor lobby area, but it isn't surrounded by a concrete fortress below.... but i do understand the significance of having an observation deck at tower 1)

I dislike concrete with all the bones in my body. However, 1 WTC is pure beauty. I do not even think of it has a 'fortress' of concrete. The design and builders, the real American working class, make this THE building of mankind's creation of true vision as to America's greatness, power, freedom, and impression of hope and desire for us to protect it at any and all cost. I love the United States of America! Thank you NYC for giving us back hope, desire, and dreams of togetherness to thereby bring - the symbol of all symbols - the building of all buildings - a building of true class and greatness. I can see our creator looking over the WTC complex and saying, 'Good work, men and women. Anyway I could get a place in 1 WTC to crash out from time to time?!'

car2004

Nov 8, 2011, 8:34 AM

Can anyone post pictures or updates of the 9/11 Memorial? Or am I to be directed somewhere else? I really want to see some updates of the site. Will there be any more trees place there? Is the site where they just recently, this year, told down two buildings that were heavily damaged due to the attack going to be just green space or might there be a future buildings in the future, a park, or more trees? I kind of hope it is just simple, green space. An area to reflect on. The openness that is. It would be really nice next to all those big, tall, super buildings of the WTC complex/site.

mac78130

Nov 8, 2011, 11:54 AM

Can anyone post pictures or updates of the 9/11 Memorial? Or am I to be directed somewhere else?

Visit here
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=158432

Chicago103

Nov 8, 2011, 2:18 PM

Which means that it’s time to start thinking about who will operate the observation deck, opening in the summer of 2014. It is to occupy 85,000 square feet on the 100th, 101st and 102nd floors of the tower. The uppermost floor slab will be 1,268 feet above ground level; slightly higher than the aerie atop the Empire State Building (1,250 feet) but — as The Wall Street Journal noted — considerably lower than the Skydeck Chicago (1,353 feet), atop the Tower Formerly Known as Sears.

One thing I find quite disappointing about this is the fact that it will be the summer of 2014 before it opens :(. Given how it will be topped out (at least to it's roof) by next summer I see no reason why it couldn't open in the summer of 2013 (as was eluded to before) and celebrate the 40th anniversary of the dedication of the twin towers. Why does it take a full two years after topping out (and two and a half years from now for some company to plan it) to open a freaking observation deck? We have already known for years that there would be an observation deck. For that matter why do so many things in modern society take so long? IIRC the Empire State Building observatory opened within a few months of topping out in 1931, and this was before the age of GPS, computers and the internet, so much for the so called speed and efficiency of the information age. It also can't be the stigma of the number 13 because it's either 2013 or near the 13th anniversary of 9/11 in 2014, I personally think the later is worse even if you are superstitious. Then there is also the fact that Bloomberg will still be mayor of NYC in 2013 to officially dedicate the tower since he was mayor during the entire post 9/11 period of planning for this, pretty sad if you can't come full circle in even 12 years. I guess I will have to delay my trip to New York City by another year :shrug:.

mat97

Nov 8, 2011, 2:22 PM

Steel up now!!!!!!:banana::cheers::notacrook::multibow

SkylineFan

Nov 8, 2011, 2:59 PM

Hmm. I am curious as to why my post got deleted. It was completely relevant to the WTC construction.....Figures.

Roadcruiser1

Nov 8, 2011, 3:40 PM

Memorial is already done. It's a park, and the trees that are there would only grow bigger making the memorial site a giant forest.

fountainkopf

Nov 8, 2011, 3:53 PM

Tom Turner - SeaTeamImages / AirTeamImages[/url]

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That is the Explorer of the Seas at front..build in the ship yards in Turku Finland.

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RockMont

Nov 8, 2011, 4:13 PM

As the building has started to take the shape of its final form, and it has for all intents and purposes, it's clearly not such a building. There's little weight or presence to it. It could have been 20 stories higher and alas the same thing.

It hasn't even been topped out yet. It still has about another 200 feet to go.

SkylineFan

Nov 8, 2011, 4:56 PM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6038/6325675381_8b951cb798_b.jpg

World Trade Center from about 20 minutes ago.

Also, to all you Skyscraper fan folks who don't live in NYC or haven't been here in a long time and are saying that the new WTC isn't as tall as you thought it would be and you think it's really small and short; You HAVE to come see it in reality. Pictures on the computer aren't like what they seem.. Believe me when I say this.. THIS THING IS HUGE! And it's not even completed yet!

mat97

Nov 8, 2011, 5:03 PM

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World Trade Center from about 20 minutes ago.

Also, to all you Skyscraper fan folks who don't live in NYC or haven't been here in a long time and are saying that the new WTC isn't as tall as you thought it would be and you think it's really small and short; You HAVE to come see it in reality. Pictures on the computer aren't like what they seem.. Believe me when I say this.. THIS THING IS HUGE! And it's not even completed yet!

You're right:tup:

CarlosV

Nov 8, 2011, 5:04 PM

3 trucks of steel arrived at the site this morning at 5AM. They sat there until 9AM never to be offloaded. Cranes have not moved all day. It's clear and not windy at all. What's going on? Anyone hear anything?

Anyone? Anyone? :)

Steel up now!!!!!!:banana::cheers::notacrook::multibow

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CarlosV

Nov 8, 2011, 5:15 PM

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mat97

Nov 8, 2011, 5:27 PM

YES, anyone!!!!!:):):cheers::banana::notacrook::worship::jester::previous::yes:

SkylineFan

Nov 8, 2011, 5:32 PM

yes, anyone!!!!!:):):cheers::banana::notacrook::worship::jester::previous::yes:

Wow, someone is excited! Haha!

SkylineFan

Nov 8, 2011, 5:43 PM

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8 days progress!The glass is going great!

(WTC 4 is catching up fast!)

sterlippo1

Nov 8, 2011, 7:15 PM

i already can't wait for the next jump!:yes::banana::cheers: thanks carlos as always for the up to the minute shots of new steel!

m0by

Nov 8, 2011, 7:42 PM