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NYCLuver
Dec 6, 2009, 8:08 PM
I think it will have more than two cranes. I think I remember reading it would have 4? But don't take my words with any seriousness, cause I dunno. :shrug:

OneWorldTradeCenter
Dec 6, 2009, 8:11 PM
I think it will have more than two cranes. I think I remember reading it would have 4? But don't take my words with any seriousness, cause I dunno. :shrug:

I hope so, but I dont know when those cranes will arrive on the construction site. On Tower 4´s site is vurrently only one crane. Greetings from Germany :tup:

uakoops
Dec 6, 2009, 10:16 PM
Hello guys. One World Trade Center is my favourite skyscraper. Does somebody know, wheather the tower will be constructed with only two cranes? :banana: :banana:

They are supposed to be putting a 3rd crane on the South side soon.

NYguy
Dec 6, 2009, 11:10 PM
I don't remember the FT being called the "1776 Building," but you know - that might not be a bad name, either.

You probably wouldn't if you didn't obsess over every detail of the planning the way I have...;)

Tried to find some old references for you, but its not as easy...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D00E5D91431F932A2575AC0A9609C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=12

But to Mr. Silverstein, Mr. Libeskind was an egghead artiste, and to Mr. Libeskind, Mr. Silverstein was a profit-driven developer.

A few days after Mr. Libeskind was ''anointed,'' as Mr. Silverstein put it, the men got together. In Mr. Silverstein's conference room, Nina Libeskind made it clear that her husband would be designing the 1776 building, as it was then known.

''I looked at her in absolute shock and said, 'But he's never designed a high-rise in his life,' '' Mr. Silverstein recalled. ''I said, 'Tell me something. If you were needing neurosurgery, would you go to a general practitioner who has never done any kind of operating in his life?' She said, 'Daniel is a quick learner.' ''

Here's a reference to a hybrid of the name...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/120058043/original.jpg




Hey guys, regarding the change in the way they measure heights. Wouldn't it be completely irrelevant since the roof of this building is still going to be 1368' from whatever the benchmark used by the Port Authority is anyhow?

The same might not apply to the spire height though since, for whatever reason, our society lets the CTBUH tell us how high a building is instead of letting logic rule.

It's not irrelevant simply because the heights of both will be measured from the same point. We could throw that measurement out the window and just call it a 2,000 ft tower. But the official height measurement will now be from the Vesey Street side of the tower. The height will be whatever it is from there. As far as marking the other two tower heights, besides what I said earlier, there will be a crown on the top of this tower, making it higher than the other towers anyway, with a distinctly different look and impact on the skyline.

NYguy
Dec 7, 2009, 12:15 AM
Tokyo Tanehaus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tanenhaus/4161741517/sizes/l/)

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Slightly older, but great shot from Tony Kelley (http://www.flickr.com/photos/takeleus/4158881851/sizes/o/)

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Bucktown718
Dec 7, 2009, 12:34 AM
I always though Freedom Tower is not wide enough or it just looks small but from this top view picture looking down at Freedom Tower i could say it looks bigger then WTC7, Cant wait till it will get much taller.
One Question: Will there be anything taller than Empire State Building in midtown? Its about time don't you think?

Cat 328D LCR
Dec 7, 2009, 1:14 AM
They are supposed to be putting a 3rd crane on the South side soon.

Is it going to be a tower crane? Or a crawler? Maybe a crawler since there is no base for the tower unless it will go on the building itself?

BStyles
Dec 7, 2009, 2:38 AM
They're going to be using a tower crane, both on the north and south sides, but attached to the outside of the building like on Beekman Tower and the Deutsche Bank building across the site.

I think the full height of the base can be judged by that tier on the verizon building next to it. That line really shouts "20th floor".

Cat 328D LCR
Dec 7, 2009, 3:50 AM
They're going to be using a tower crane, both on the north and south sides, but attached to the outside of the building like on Beekman Tower and the Deutsche Bank building across the site.

I think the full height of the base can be judged by that tier on the verizon building next to it. That line really shouts "20th floor".

ok, thanks

NYguy
Dec 7, 2009, 2:07 PM
B.Letwin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/45205494@N02/4158841110/sizes/l/)


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A little more from the photographer...


http://www.observer.com/2009/slideshow/120474/1-wtc-freedom-tower#

1 WTC (The Freedom Tower)

http://www.observer.com/files/slideshow/ft_1.jpg

-Eliot Brown
(Photos by Brian Letwin)

There’s a narrative that has been playing out over the redevelopment of the World Trade Center site practically since redevelopment was first discussed: delays, infighting; ballooning costs. And while this still dominates the conversation—there is currently a standoff over when to build office towers on the eastern portion of the site, and how they should be financed—there is, in fact, quite a bit of construction going on at the 16-acre site.

Last week, we headed downtown to shoot some photos at the giant construction site, where the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the property, took us around to show us a few different elements.

First up: the Freedom Tower (it’s now officially called 1 World Trade Center), which now has steel rising four stories up, surrounding a thick concrete core. The first floor is unusually tall, with a giant podium serving as a strong base for the building, putting the tallest steel above 160 feet.

We first went up to the third floor, at the top of the blue mesh cloth-sheathed stairs in the center of the photo.

http://www.observer.com/files/slideshow/high%20steel.jpg

Setting the beams into place isn't for the faint of heart. As a crane lowers the beams, workers, in harnesses, guide the steel down as they stand on small beams and cables.

http://www.observer.com/files/slideshow/s%20steelworker.jpg

A worker on the south face of the Freedom Tower.

http://www.observer.com/files/slideshow/tower%20crane.jpg

Two enormous tower cranes rise in the middle of the building (this is the southern crane). The cranes lift steel around them to fill out the skeleton. Once the steel is high enough, the cranes jump four stories or so, and the process repeats.

http://www.observer.com/files/slideshow/lobby.jpg

Here's the really tall lobby. At the back (with all the red scaffolding) is the concrete core, which surrounds the guts of the building, such as the stairs and elevators. In all the planned World Trade Center towers (and Larry Silverstein's 7 World Trade Center, completed in 2006), the concrete cores are very thick--the Freedom Tower's looks to be about three feet--acting as a strong, stable central support.


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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/12/south_plainfield_steel_plant_f.html

South plainfield steel plant readies materials to rebuild World Trade Center

http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/worker-welding-world-trade-center-projectsjpg-44a97e2d2c54d802_large.jpg


By Mike Frassinelli
December 07, 2009

...at the end of each afternoon, One World Trade Center, which someday will be the tallest building in the nation, reaches a little higher

..."We’re supposed to be up to the 20th floor equivalent by February," said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, owners of the building. The structure is scheduled to be completed in 2013.

...Because updated building criteria requires structures to be extra resilient in a post 9/11 world, the steel columns for One World Trade Center are massive, weighing as much as 110 tons.

...After a lengthy delay caused by disagreements over the design of "1 WTC," the tower is sprouting in Lower Manhattan.

If any proof was needed that the project is now moving quickly, a visitor need only look in a building of the steel mill in South Plainfield.

Workers are converting rail cargo containers into what will become a Subway sandwich shop in the sky.

The makeshift sandwich shop will be a convenient way for workers to eat lunch on the dizzying construction site, without having to descend dozens of floors to ground level. As the building grows, the "Skyway" sandwich shop will ascend with the construction workers.

Wheelingman04
Dec 7, 2009, 2:21 PM
I still don't know why they won't have an open air observation deck like the former WTC?:rolleyes:

OneWorldTradeCenter
Dec 7, 2009, 3:31 PM
Hello guys. I read many information about the tower, and a lot of texts say the base will contain 20 floors. When I have a look at the base, currently I can see about 5 floors, and the base seems to complete to at least 50%. I´m not sure, whaether the base will have 20 floors. But if it has only seven floors, the building won´t contain 108 stories. :shrug:


I still don't know why they won't have an open air observation deck like the former WTC?:rolleyes:

I´m sure they will have one atop the roof.:banana:

JSsocal
Dec 7, 2009, 3:39 PM
^^^Uhhn no, there are communication rings that will be harmful to people up there.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Dec 7, 2009, 3:49 PM
^^^Uhhn no, there are communication rings that will be harmful to people up there.

That´s bad. I whould like to have an outdoor observation deck on the tower, that will allow people to enjoy a great view, like to former southtower of the WTC.

Nowhereman1280
Dec 7, 2009, 4:50 PM
^^^Uhhn no, there are communication rings that will be harmful to people up there.

Lol, that's not even close to true. All radiation types used for communication are harmless to humans, even when amped up to massive amounts of kilowatts. The fact of the matter is radio waves just don't interact with human matter, it passes right through us like a sieve. If it did react with we'd all be dead since that white noise you hear on empty radio stations and the snow you see on the TV is all background radiation from the big bang. The universe in inundated with radio waves, being close to a transmitter isn't going to do anything to us.

Besides, people have lived for 40 years less than 100' away from the transmitters on the John Hancock Building in Chicago and it doesn't affect them, so I don't see why being outside next to them for an hour or less is going to do any harm.

MadGnome
Dec 7, 2009, 5:15 PM
Lol, that's not even close to true. All radiation types used for communication are harmless to humans, even when amped up to massive amounts of kilowatts. The fact of the matter is radio waves just don't interact with human matter, it passes right through us like a sieve. If it did react with we'd all be dead since that white noise you hear on empty radio stations and the snow you see on the TV is all background radiation from the big bang. The universe in inundated with radio waves, being close to a transmitter isn't going to do anything to us.

Besides, people have lived for 40 years less than 100' away from the transmitters on the John Hancock Building in Chicago and it doesn't affect them, so I don't see why being outside next to them for an hour or less is going to do any harm.

Try sticking your head in a microwave oven and tell us that. There are strict rules for RF exposure for a reason. A rooftop observation deck wouldn't be a problem because the radiating elements would be high enough and directional enough so you wouldn't get much exposure at that level.

Zapatan
Dec 7, 2009, 6:07 PM
^^^Uhhn no, there are communication rings that will be harmful to people up there.


That's what I always hear, but wasn't that the case with the old WTC? Granted, the antenna was on the opposite tower from the observatory but still, people on the roof of 2 WTC were still right up there next to 1 WTC's antenna.

Although the ESB has an outdoor balcony at 1,225 feet on the mast tower and I believe it closed because of antenna radiation as well.

BStyles
Dec 7, 2009, 6:18 PM
Hello guys. I read many information about the tower, and a lot of texts say the base will contain 20 floors. When I have a look at the base, currently I can see about 5 floors, and the base seems to complete to at least 50%. I´m not sure, whaether the base will have 20 floors. But if it has only seven floors, the building won´t contain 108 stories.

The base is 186 feet tall, or 200 depending on whether they want a perfect cube. The mechanical floors' ceilings are exceptionally taller than the office floors starting at 20(two mechanical floors are four office floors). Count the lobby's height, and you get the number 20 for the first office floor instead of 7. It's all about the height of the ceiling.

Lol, that's not even close to true. All radiation types used for communication are harmless to humans, even when amped up to massive amounts of kilowatts. The fact of the matter is radio waves just don't interact with human matter, it passes right through us like a sieve. If it did react with we'd all be dead since that white noise you hear on empty radio stations and the snow you see on the TV is all background radiation from the big bang. The universe in inundated with radio waves, being close to a transmitter isn't going to do anything to us.

Besides, people have lived for 40 years less than 100' away from the transmitters on the John Hancock Building in Chicago and it doesn't affect them, so I don't see why being outside next to them for an hour or less is going to do any harm.

That's no excuse for exposing people to radiation just for the sole purpose of observation. Just stay inside and enjoy the view.

Try sticking your head in a microwave oven and tell us that. There are strict rules for RF exposure for a reason. A rooftop observation deck wouldn't be a problem because the radiating elements would be high enough and directional enough so you wouldn't get much exposure at that level.

Much? I don't want any at all, so I don't think so.

Yes, and where will the rooftop equipment go? See it was easier for the Twin Towers: take all the equipment off of one tower and slap it on the other. One reason tthe former 1WTC's rooftop was closed to the public. Unfortunately this is only one tower, and a high tech tower, and requires some high-tech equipment, which is regarded for it's size. Besides, the rooftop observation deck will be closed in the winters, rain, and on windy days anyway. It is really windy in the Hudson corridor.

Plus none of the buildings' elevators, and I doubt escalators, would ever reach that height since the roof of the building stops at 1362'. There are also supports for the communications ring up there.

meh_cd
Dec 7, 2009, 7:55 PM
That's what I always hear, but wasn't that the case with the old WTC? Granted, the antenna was on the opposite tower from the observatory but still, people on the roof of 2 WTC were still right up there next to 1 WTC's antenna.

Although the ESB has an outdoor balcony at 1,225 feet on the mast tower and I believe it closed because of antenna radiation as well.

The ESB 102nd floor observation deck is open. It just costs extra $$$.

J.M.
Dec 7, 2009, 8:07 PM
Odd question, but are alot of details going into the plaza at One World Trade Center?

NYguy
Dec 7, 2009, 9:11 PM
Beauty Playin 'Eh (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wischfamily/4166250687/sizes/l/)

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meh_cd
Dec 7, 2009, 9:43 PM
Odd question, but are alot of details going into the plaza at One World Trade Center?

Well, it's a relatively small area but it looks like it'll be nice.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/NEW%20wtc/FTRelatedImages_12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/NEW%20wtc/FTRelatedImages_08-1.jpg

Zensteeldude
Dec 7, 2009, 10:06 PM
http://www.observer.com/files/slideshow/high%20steel.jpg


Been there, done that, have the drinking problem to prove it.:)

Zensteeldude
Dec 7, 2009, 10:12 PM
I still don't know why they won't have an open air observation deck like the former WTC?:rolleyes:

The Twins had there A/C supplied from a central chiller plant underground. This left the roof of the south tower basically empty and flat, the perfect place to put an open air observation deck.

Tower One is self contained, the chiller plant is on the roof. Add to that all the communications equipment and the window washing cranes, there is ZERO room left over.

NYGuy beat me to the MRP article ! LOL

Wheelingman04
Dec 8, 2009, 1:27 AM
The Twins had there A/C supplied from a central chiller plant underground. This left the roof of the south tower basically empty and flat, the perfect place to put an open air observation deck.

Tower One is self contained, the chiller plant is on the roof. Add to that all the communications equipment and the window washing cranes, there is ZERO room left over.

NYGuy beat me to the MRP article ! LOL

I know all about that(not being rude). Christ I know way too much about those towers LOL, but I didn't know that everything was going to be on top of the tower. I guess I just assumed they would put everything underground again.:( , but then again there is no twin which Im not very happy about. Overall the plan still looks good though.

Zensteeldude
Dec 8, 2009, 2:44 AM
You are too young to have seen the Twins go up, as I did. And I can see you have unresolved feelings about 9/11.

I was just answering a question.

PS: I also have a full set of prints for Tower One.

2-TOWERS
Dec 8, 2009, 4:23 AM
my father took me to the site in the early 70s and i was lucky enough to watch those beast rise .. looking at this new tower almost has the same look even though the construction is much different it still looks the same .,most lickely because of the same size 208' by 208' but its nice to see regular steel beams instead of the light weight trusses which doomed the originals..

Acer1
Dec 8, 2009, 6:22 AM
I know all about that(not being rude). Christ I know way too much about those towers LOL, but I didn't know that everything was going to be on top of the tower. I guess I just assumed they would put everything underground again.:( , but then again there is no twin which Im not very happy about. Overall the plan still looks good though.

Underground malls = big business. So everything 'less profitable' got dumped on the roof. :/

Honestly, did the old wtc site have so much retail space as the new one is planned for?

photoLith
Dec 8, 2009, 8:43 AM
Does anyone know on a given day how many people are working on the entire WTC site? Like how many people does it actively employ?

westmc9th
Dec 8, 2009, 10:22 AM
Bad weather the rest of the week! so hopefully some work can get done today

Ebola
Dec 8, 2009, 10:31 AM
There's no somke.

westmc9th
Dec 8, 2009, 10:37 AM
There's no somke.

well it didnt look like welding at first and it just scared me a little it was probably nothing

Puzzlecraft
Dec 8, 2009, 5:13 PM
What is the diagonal beam near the top of the SW corner for? There are none in the other corners (see #1).

What are the long thin light gray vertical thingies near the corners of the structure between the 3rd and 5th floors. They don't exactly align from section to section (see #2).

http://www.custompuzzlecraft.com/temp/20091208_WTC1_questions.jpg

NewYorker2009
Dec 8, 2009, 7:45 PM
Did they just add the Subway Sandwich Shop?

Puzzlecraft
Dec 8, 2009, 8:56 PM
I see that a diagonal corner beam has now been placed in the NE corner. Going through archives, I see one was placed in the SE corner about a week ago, before the flooring was placed, so this is just the way the flooring support is being done.

The whitish "drainpipes", lol, remain unresolved.

Pizzuti
Dec 8, 2009, 9:48 PM
Underground malls = big business. So everything 'less profitable' got dumped on the roof. :/

Honestly, did the old wtc site have so much retail space as the new one is planned for?


I think retail can be a good thing, because it gets more people in and out of the site at a daily basis (beyond the people who work there) and makes it more a part of the fabric of the city. I think there's a segregated, "gated" feeling to a high-profile office tower where only megacorporations set up offices and 99.9% of the people living within a 1-mile radius will never work there.

The only thing I'd be concerned about with a shopping area is keeping that stuff psychologically segregated from the memorial space, and that's more out of deference to the people who would be upset by that than my own personal opinion (if it were up to me, I'd have had the memorial off-site in a park somewhere and use the space Downtown for as much built space as possible). I always think a thriving, busy, active space is the most fitting use of a high-profile area.

NYCLuver
Dec 9, 2009, 12:03 AM
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NYguy
Dec 9, 2009, 12:12 AM
PS: I also have a full set of prints for Tower One.

Of which we are greatful for every peek...(hint) :)


I just love watching this one rise.

posykrat (http://www.flickr.com/photos/posykrat/4169678509/sizes/o/)

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uaarkson
Dec 9, 2009, 1:51 AM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0735.jpg

This is an amazing shot. The Grand Canyon of skyscrapers. 1WTC looks like such a monster off in the distance.

2-TOWERS
Dec 9, 2009, 3:06 PM
LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT CORE JUMP IS COMING AND WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETED BASE BY THE END OF JANUARY..:cheers:

Puzzlecraft
Dec 9, 2009, 6:23 PM
Early this morning there was a fairly large gathering of people, looked like mostly workers, on West St around the south west entrance to the memorial plaza (near where 3 WTC was). What was the occasion?

uakoops
Dec 9, 2009, 6:59 PM
Early this morning there was a fairly large gathering of people, looked like mostly workers, on West St around the south west entrance to the memorial plaza (near where 3 WTC was). What was the occasion?

Evacuation Drill

NYguy
Dec 9, 2009, 11:01 PM
mikesemo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikesimo/4170932048/sizes/o/)

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J_M_Tungsten
Dec 9, 2009, 11:04 PM
Was the base of the old trade centers wider than the new base? It looks to be in this pic above? Thanks

Duffstuff129
Dec 9, 2009, 11:35 PM
Was the base of the old trade centers wider than the new base? It looks to be in this pic above? Thanks

This is 198' square and the originals were 208' square.

Bucktown718
Dec 10, 2009, 12:15 AM
I Just Noticed that you could see Beekman reflection on those buildings.
I don't really know the name of those buildings, but can someone tell me?

SD360
Dec 10, 2009, 12:33 AM
I Just Noticed that you could see Beekman reflection on those buildings.
I don't really know the name of those buildings, but can someone tell me?

those are 2 & 3 WFC.(world financial center)

Domamania
Dec 10, 2009, 12:50 AM
do any of you know how tall freedom tower will be in one year from now like in December 2010, and if yes how tall would it be?

larry141094
Dec 10, 2009, 3:59 AM
If all goes well, it should be a few months from top off

Domamania
Dec 10, 2009, 4:20 AM
well a year ago to this day there was nothing and now the base is two thirds complete so maybe you could be right.

NYguy
Dec 10, 2009, 5:03 AM
A handy guide to the Port Authority's WTC timeframe...
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/milestones.html

Cat 328D LCR
Dec 11, 2009, 3:28 AM
does anyone know when the 18000 and the 16000 are going to leave?

NYguy
Dec 11, 2009, 3:49 AM
Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4174198321/) (Dec 10)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2636/4174198321_4f1d9ca7d4_b.jpg

Domamania
Dec 11, 2009, 3:53 AM
I have news everybody. Today was the first day my dad started to work at the freedom tower. He told me the the steel colomns in the foundation of the freedom tower are emmence, he also said that the amount of conqrete on the site is giantesk. He did tell me that the plan is to have the steel on the tower fully complete by Nov 2011.

Aleks
Dec 11, 2009, 4:06 AM
It's great to see the entire base covered in steel. Gives us hope!

NYguy
Dec 11, 2009, 4:11 AM
^ It sure is great. Here's the opposite view...

scriptingnews (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scriptingnews/4175106863/sizes/l/)

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2-TOWERS
Dec 11, 2009, 6:00 AM
One More Core Jump Will Be The Complete Base

2-TOWERS
Dec 11, 2009, 6:09 AM
hasn't this rendering always just seemed skewed?

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239872/original.jpg

LOOKING AT THIS PIC IT LOOKS LIKE ONE MORE CORE JUMP...

SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Dec 11, 2009, 3:54 PM
will ther be any work today or tomorrow?

OneWorldTradeCenter
Dec 11, 2009, 6:52 PM
will ther be any work today or tomorrow?

I think yes. I often view the construction on Live Earthcam. The cranes are working on Saturday and Sunday as well.:banana: :banana: :banana:

I just want to know, wheather there will be a third crane. And when will this crane arrive on the construction site? :cheers:

BStyles
Dec 11, 2009, 7:39 PM
It looks like they'll be making a jump to either tne next floor or finally at floor 20. And there are two more levels to go in the base(one and a roof), so they're not done with the base yet.

The cranes don't work on the weekends. If they do, it was a few weeks ago and it was to assemble that tower crane for the PATH terminal. The south memoorial pool steel is installed on weekends though, and they have to fill in another 3/4ths of the pool before it's rounded off.

Hopefully they will install the perimeter cranes when they reach floor 20 or 21, so that's not a long wait(they already have the tower elevators up).

2-TOWERS
Dec 11, 2009, 10:49 PM
THIS IS REALLY GETTING EXITING NOW.. EVERYONE OUT HERE IN L.A. HAVE NO CLUE WHATS GOING ON , WELL MOST OF THEM AND I PRINT OUT HOW THE TOWER LOOKS AND THEY JUST CANT BELIEVE IT!!! PACE HAS R EALLY PICKED UP:cheers:

theWatusi
Dec 11, 2009, 10:55 PM
please don't type in all caps

Zensteeldude
Dec 11, 2009, 10:56 PM
What is the diagonal beam near the top of the SW corner for? There are none in the other corners (see #1).

What are the long thin light gray vertical thingies near the corners of the structure between the 3rd and 5th floors. They don't exactly align from section to section (see #2).

http://www.custompuzzlecraft.com/temp/20091208_WTC1_questions.jpg

The answer to #2 is, that's an 8 inch square tube with a plate welded to it to support a glass baffle. Part of the air plenum around the base mech. floors.

CoolCzech
Dec 12, 2009, 1:10 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2636/4174198321_4f1d9ca7d4_b.jpg

Man, that pic makes it look like it will be a REALLY tight, dark passage between the FT and the Vessey.

Duffstuff129
Dec 12, 2009, 2:39 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2636/4174198321_4f1d9ca7d4_b.jpg

Man, that pic makes it look like it will be a REALLY tight, dark passage between the FT and the Vessey.

I doubt people will use that passage anyways after the construction is done since they could just walk through the WTC's parks and plazas instead.

This is so unreal. I can't believe this thing is rolling. For the longest time, 1WTC was just those two little concrete stumps, and now it is turning into a tower. Incredible.

2-TOWERS
Dec 12, 2009, 4:34 AM
The Verizon Building Will Really Be Hidden

Kamatzu
Dec 12, 2009, 8:01 AM
Is it going to be slowed down soon due to the core being behind the steel?

TANGELD_SLC
Dec 12, 2009, 8:45 AM
It's so awesome to finally see this thing taking shape. I just wish it hadn't taken so long.

Ghost
Dec 12, 2009, 10:37 AM
Is it going to be slowed down soon due to the core being behind the steel?
No it goes just like up to this point - once they get the floor somewhat "finished", they continue on the core and so on...

evanmack
Dec 12, 2009, 7:32 PM
How are the other towers doing? I have to assume the other towers are going to take about the same time as one world trade center but it doesn't look like much is being done.

37TimPPG
Dec 12, 2009, 11:38 PM
How are the other towers doing? I have to assume the other towers are going to take about the same time as one world trade center but it doesn't look like much is being done.

The other Towers will be built. Perhaps not when we want then to be built but they will be built - infrastructure work is going on at the moment.

You can follow the progress of Tower 4 here:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=130302

RoldanTTLB
Dec 13, 2009, 4:10 PM
Well guys, I was in town and I wanted to take more pictures with my sweet camera, etc, but I got out Friday, and it was just too cold. This will have to do for now.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/SyKYbeT-ecI/AAAAAAAADxo/HoCJMpsbfSk/s1600/IMG_0174.JPG

2-TOWERS
Dec 13, 2009, 4:30 PM
Sweet Pic!!!!!!

J_M_Tungsten
Dec 13, 2009, 9:06 PM
^^^whats the big siren for?

Bucktown718
Dec 13, 2009, 9:14 PM
Emergency Drill im guessing. So the Construction is going only on monday-friday and weekends are off? Does anyone knows how tall the tower planing to be by the summer of 2010?

rich_200
Dec 13, 2009, 9:33 PM
Emergency Drill im guessing. So the Construction is going only on monday-friday and weekends are off? Does anyone knows how tall the tower planing to be by the summer of 2010?

Once the base is done it is supposed to grow on a floor per week basis so if they are done with the base in one month by September they should have added around 30 floors to the base

Bucktown718
Dec 13, 2009, 9:42 PM
Once the base is done it is supposed to grow on a floor per week basis so if they are done with the base in one month by September they should have added around 30 floors to the base
Wait didn't they say they planing to be up to 20th floor by February?

wong21fr
Dec 13, 2009, 9:50 PM
^He means 30 floor plus the twenty floor base, so around fifty floors or so by September.

NYguy
Dec 13, 2009, 11:21 PM
Man, that pic makes it look like it will be a REALLY tight, dark passage between the FT and the Vessey.

And that's unusual Downtown how?


bastion.echterhoelter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33918773@N06/4179373877/sizes/l/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2630/4179373877_5b17d54ce0_b.jpg

Dac150
Dec 14, 2009, 1:18 AM
A little off topic, but I’ve been meaning to ask; anyone have an idea on what’s going on with the top of 1 Liberty Plaza?

CGII
Dec 14, 2009, 2:54 AM
Oh shit I think I'm going to piss my pants when I can see this from my apartment...

kenratboy
Dec 14, 2009, 3:13 AM
Oh shit I think I'm going to piss my pants when I can see this from my apartment...

Your Milwaukee apartment!?

CGII
Dec 14, 2009, 3:34 AM
Brooklyn. I split my time between the two cities but I have a great view of downtown, especially for the construction of 1 WTC because the only building blocking it is the Park Row Building, which is maybe 300 feet?

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1852/beekman.jpg

RoldanTTLB
Dec 14, 2009, 5:29 AM
Brooklyn. I split my time between the two cities but I have a great view of downtown, especially for the construction of 1 WTC because the only building blocking it is the Park Row Building, which is maybe 300 feet?



I'm kind of amazed you can't see the cranes peeking out already from this vantage point. In any event, it's only a short matter of time before this thing lurches into your view. You should buy some sort of superzoom telephoto lens for when it happens. Something medium format, so you can crop us photos of workers sweating while welding steel.

BStyles
Dec 14, 2009, 4:15 PM
That is true. But the base is only 186 feet (or 200 feet, the PA has everything mixed up)and the tower cranes usually don't shoot their booms toward the sky unless they're trying to avoid each other,or the verizon building. I say by the 30th floor everything should be visible.

On a separate note, if they had cladded Beekman in brick, you could imagine how it displaces everything around it, so....glass rocks.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Dec 14, 2009, 4:38 PM
That is true. But the base is only 186 feet (or 200 feet, the PA has everything mixed up)and the tower cranes usually don't shoot their booms toward the sky unless they're trying to avoid each other,or the verizon building. I say by the 30th floor everything should be visible.

On a separate note, if they had cladded Beekman in brick, you could imagine how it displaces everything around it, so....glass rocks.

But at which time will the 30th floor be reached? I belive by April 2010. :cheers:

Domamania
Dec 15, 2009, 2:42 PM
Which tower is going to be second tallest at the new WTC. I know freedom tower is tallest but which tower will come after that.

uakoops
Dec 15, 2009, 4:36 PM
Which tower is going to be second tallest at the new WTC. I know freedom tower is tallest but which tower will come after that.

2, 3, and 4, in that order.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Dec 15, 2009, 7:23 PM
2, 3, and 4, in that order.

Yes, you´re right, but I don´t know (nobody knows) when Towers 2 and 3 will be finsehed. I mean, construction has not begun and it´s currently uncertain when this happens. :(

Apex
Dec 15, 2009, 8:52 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2630/4179373877_5b17d54ce0_b.jpg

So if tower 4 is the last one going up... what is that structure rising across the site?

uaarkson
Dec 15, 2009, 8:55 PM
So if tower 4 is the last one going up... what is that structure rising across the site?

And where did you get the idea that tower 4 was the last one going up?

lakegz
Dec 15, 2009, 9:05 PM
Brooklyn. I split my time between the two cities but I have a great view of downtown, especially for the construction of 1 WTC because the only building blocking it is the Park Row Building, which is maybe 300 feet?

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1852/beekman.jpg


399 if i remember exactly

Cat 328D LCR
Dec 15, 2009, 9:31 PM
How come there using a larger Manitowoc (18000) on the west side and a smaller Manitowoc (16000) on the east side?

Zensteeldude
Dec 15, 2009, 10:28 PM
:previous:

The 18000 can't crawl so it has to be able to lift 70 tons at a greater radius. The 16000 has that nice long platform so it can get close to the target.

NYguy
Dec 15, 2009, 11:18 PM
adrialynn (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adrialynn/4184213229/sizes/l/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4184213229_99b74a3764_b.jpg


WTCProgress (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wtcprogress/4174600982/sizes/l/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2520/4174600982_0a44f71db3_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2657/4174600018_b756a14af5_b.jpg

theWatusi
Dec 15, 2009, 11:28 PM
:eeekk:


GSmC4j-p5kc

http://www.youtube.com/wtcprogress#p/a/u/0/GSmC4j-p5kc

steveve
Dec 15, 2009, 11:38 PM
WOW!!!!... Great video ^^^^!

Great perspective from what's happening up there!... It's so high up now!

good stuff :tup:

CoolCzech
Dec 16, 2009, 12:41 AM
So if tower 4 is the last one going up... what is that structure rising across the site?

You mean that building in the far right of the picture?

That's the old Deutsche Bank building, fatally damaged during 9/11, and it's not going up - it's being systematically dismantled. It's taking a long time because all sorts of environmental concerns have to be abated.

Zapatan
Dec 16, 2009, 12:44 AM
hmm... they never fixed that little piece of crooked metal, I wonder how much of a danger that is to the buildings structure.