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Bucktown718
Feb 11, 2010, 7:23 PM
yeah it stopped snowing and the sun is out. Looks like the snow will melt by tomorrow on the constructional site, but the snow will remain on sidewalk for about a week or so. IMO

OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 11, 2010, 7:24 PM
yeah it stopped snowing and the sun is out. Looks like the snow will melt by tomorrow on the constructional site, but the snow will remain on sidewalk for about a week or so. IMO

Are they currently working on the tower??

Urban Sky
Feb 11, 2010, 8:39 PM
nice pics nyguy.

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 12, 2010, 12:57 PM
Hard to make out what it is in the screen shot below from the HD cam but it looks to be a large piece of steel and maybe a "jeep" (heavy haulage term) before the trailer to add more axles

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/steel.jpg

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 12, 2010, 6:05 PM
part of the South West Corner node is in!

Photo from morrongiello
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2791/4351858194_46dd2e495f_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4351858194/sizes/l/

2-TOWERS
Feb 12, 2010, 6:15 PM
LOOKING GOOD.......:cheers:

OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 12, 2010, 6:35 PM
Looking great!! Do they still need those red cranes? :)

scalziand
Feb 12, 2010, 7:07 PM
That's going to be one hell of a weld/joint connecting the two halves of the corner nodes.

37TimPPG
Feb 12, 2010, 7:49 PM
This is very exciting! It used to be you could miss the updates for a couple weeks (even a month) and not miss much visible progress. Now, if you miss a day or two you miss a lot. YAY PROGRESS! DO IT!:notacrook:

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 12, 2010, 9:15 PM
The north west one might of went in today also, it was hard to tell from the webcam. I suppose more will go in tomorrow

The North One
Feb 12, 2010, 9:38 PM
I love snow, we need more of it!

alexjon
Feb 12, 2010, 9:52 PM
When you see it in place, you get a real sense of what it does. Just seeing diagrams, it was too abstract.

Me likey. :D

JACKinBeantown
Feb 12, 2010, 10:12 PM
Only in Manhattan would a structure that's already about 170 feet tall look like it's less than 100.

NYguy
Feb 12, 2010, 10:34 PM
part of the South West Corner node is in!

Photo from morrongiello
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2791/4351858194_46dd2e495f_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4351858194/sizes/l/

Can't tell if they were installing the entire thing, but if so we'll begin to see the tapered effect...

One at each corner, total of 90 feet high, solid steel. Probably going in next week. And in my opinion, a work of art. I present "The corner nodes".

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2739/4144677693_c5620912d6_o.jpg

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 12, 2010, 10:46 PM
It looks like it's half of the light gray piece like shown in the plans but i really don't know. Isn't there suppose to be 2 total pieces of it?

uaarkson
Feb 13, 2010, 2:43 AM
I love snow, we need more of it!

not if you want this project to be finished in your lifetime, you don't.

NYguy
Feb 13, 2010, 1:24 PM
It looks like it's half of the light gray piece like shown in the plans but i really don't know. Isn't there suppose to be 2 total pieces of it?

Zensteeldude would know more about it. Another look...

mr.seymour (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevin-seymour/4352250227/sizes/l/in/set-72157623424244022/)

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asterix611 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28722563@N05/page2/)

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OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 13, 2010, 2:24 PM
Great pictures. Good progress! ;)

2-TOWERS
Feb 13, 2010, 3:52 PM
wow...you can really see the height of the base with the ground shots... also in the last pic you can clearly see the main beam on a angle, due to the path tracks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Domamania
Feb 13, 2010, 5:23 PM
wow i must say this floore is taking the longest to build the other two before it was built in half of the time. I wonder why?

OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 13, 2010, 5:39 PM
wow i must say this floore is taking the longest to build the other two before it was built in half of the time. I wonder why?

I think this has something to do with the weather. Because it was very cold the last days (with much snow), they couldn´t work in time.

Dac150
Feb 13, 2010, 5:45 PM
Its moving at a steady pace guys, relax. The fact that the city had a major snow storm this week may be a contributing factor…..:rolleyes:

Zensteeldude
Feb 13, 2010, 7:06 PM
That's going to be one hell of a weld/joint connecting the two halves of the corner nodes.

I didn't want to speculate too much about the corner nodes untell I saw the first section go in.

After doing the math what we see in the pics is the bottom third of a corner node.

It's perfectly logical, the hight of the node section is roughly the same as the hight of the core steel column sections.

NYguy
Feb 14, 2010, 2:56 AM
madlag (http://www.flickr.com/photos/madlag/4354491509/sizes/l/in/set-72157623429810516/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4354491509_6798556701_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4355237140_968ea2176c_b.jpg


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Zerton
Feb 14, 2010, 3:43 AM
great find, nyguy.

Deutsche looks better in blue by the way.

CalibratedZeus
Feb 14, 2010, 4:11 AM
Taken today by me....

Have a bunch more but I am at my girlfriend's for the weekend, the rest will be up on Monday! (And also on a better host instead of Photobucket)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/omgitsablender/DSCF0156.jpg

KVNBKLYN
Feb 14, 2010, 4:31 AM
mr.seymour (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevin-seymour/4352250227/sizes/l/in/set-72157623424244022/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4352250227_ed4633ddcb_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/4352253037_9d9c677038_b.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4353008872_e2c8e27ebc_b.jpg




These are my photos, btw. Too funny. I went to this thread to post my photos only to find that someone had already posted them for me! :haha:

Independence
Feb 14, 2010, 2:02 PM
Wow. Construction progress as of February 1970....no wait...2010!

NYguy
Feb 14, 2010, 2:31 PM
These are my photos, btw. Too funny. I went to this thread to post my photos only to find that someone had already posted them for me! :haha:

All photos must be posted immediately...;)

Take more, we can never have too many. I'm guessing we will eventually have daily photo updates now that the tower is about to take off...

2-TOWERS
Feb 14, 2010, 5:02 PM
All photos must be posted immediately...;)

Take more, we can never have too many. I'm guessing we will eventually have daily photo updates now that the tower is about to take off...

you couldn't have said it any better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kamatzu
Feb 15, 2010, 6:00 AM
Beautiful building, can't wait to visit it when it's done.

Cat 328D LCR
Feb 15, 2010, 3:24 PM
Pictures from this morning- 2-15-10

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/029.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/033.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/044.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/047-2.jpg

New crane- manitowoc 777
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/061.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/064.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/070.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/078.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/094-1.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/077.jpg

OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 15, 2010, 3:32 PM
Thanks, great pictures!!!!

photoLith
Feb 15, 2010, 5:54 PM
madlag (http://www.flickr.com/photos/madlag/4354491509/sizes/l/in/set-72157623429810516/)




http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4354495781_eac5685e0c_b.jpg

What is that building being built in the center?

meh_cd
Feb 15, 2010, 8:29 PM
The last apartment building in BPC, I think. Not sure of the exact name.

evanmack
Feb 15, 2010, 8:32 PM
Yea last apt building of BPC, don't think it is going much higher than that. the one right to the left of it is also still under construction. Great Pictures!!

RoldanTTLB
Feb 16, 2010, 2:16 AM
Those are Liberty Luxe and Liberty Green. They are, as previously mentioned, the final two residentially zoned sites being built in BPC (there's still space for a few other things, like the school being built on the south end). I believe they are both topped out.

Bucktown718
Feb 16, 2010, 4:48 AM
It's snowing again, and its going to snow tomorrow, I'm guessing that February will be a slow month for One World Trade Center.

CalibratedZeus
Feb 16, 2010, 6:14 AM
Here's the rest of the pics from Saturday 2/13.

They are all 3600 x 2700 originals re-sized to 1024 x 768 to fit on these pages better and for storage space (Originals are about 25 MB each).

All shots taken by me.

I don't really have anything from the north side as it was getting too dark for good pictures with my camera by the time I got around to that side. :(

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http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/pictures/wtc/ft1.jpg
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http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/pictures/wtc/ft19.jpg

canadate
Feb 16, 2010, 12:52 PM
Took these yesterday, was only there for about 10 mintues b/c I was on the run (so fast that I didn't even notice the new crane)..And apparently everyone took similar photos (lol) so sorry for some of the repeats.

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/February%2015th%202010/DSCF4815.jpg

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/February%2015th%202010/DSCF4816.jpg

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NYguy
Feb 16, 2010, 4:00 PM
Here's the rest of the pics from Saturday 2/13.

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http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/ft11.jpg
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http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/ft12.jpg

Great shots. Always love the view from the wintergarden. The tower is rising for all New York to see.

NYguy
Feb 16, 2010, 4:06 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/why_we_need_wtc_uhnitx0Jh0nJvHq4jpNXDM

Why we need 1 WTC

By STEVE CUOZZO
February 16, 2010

'Why rent there when you can rent on Park Avenue?" That's what Donald Trump is saying to friends about the new 1 World Trade Center, according to The Post's Lois Weiss. But the fact is, if you're looking for truly modern office space, you probably can't find it on Park -- or almost anywhere else in town.

That's why 1 WTC is vital to the city's future -- and why we should pray Larry Silverstein can soon proceed with at least one of his planned towers at the site.

....Tenants will come to 1 WTC for the same reason they came to Silverstein's 7 WTC, which many expected to fail: Only brand-new buildings offer electronically advanced, environmentally attuned space.

THE fact is, New York is increasingly a city of obsolescent office buildings -- an astounding 65 percent of our stock is at least 50 years old, compared with 24 percent that old elsewhere in the US.

Consistent demand for newly minted Manhattan office space explains why buildings erected "on speculation" -- that is, without tenants signed in advance -- almost invariably do get fully leased up within a year or two of completion. This, despite all the stubborn, ignorant claims that "spec" buildings" stand empty for years and glut the market.

Although not a spec project, 1 WTC might as well be. A mere 190,000 square feet of its total 2.6 million are leased so far (to China's Beijing Vantone). Federal and state agencies are supposed to take 1 million square feet more, but even that will leave some 1.3 million feet up for grabs. Moreover, below-market rents conceded to the government units will put pressure to achieve higher prices on the rest of the tower.

...The credit crisis put the brakes on every office skyscraper that was planned uptown -- including by three of the 1 WTC bidders. At Ground Zero, Silverstein's three planned towers face indefinite delays. But 1 WTC's construction is fully paid for with insurance proceeds, Liberty Bonds and the PA's own capital. Although years behind schedule, its completion is certain.

It's also urgent. Because, while some firms can still settle for, say, moving from a 1970s building on Sixth Avenue to one on Third Avenue, others require newly minted digs offering the latest electronic and mechanical amenities.

Office tower technology advanced more in the last decade than it did in perhaps the preceding 50 years. Only the newest buildings have the 14-foot "slab to slab" floor heights needed to install modern fiber optics -- plus floor-to-ceiling windows and "green" features that save tenants enough money to help mitigate the higher rents such locations charge. "Modern" projects erected as recently as the late 1980s don't compare.

All of which leaves New York, still by far the nation's largest office market, under threat -- not only by London and Shanghai, but by nearer rivals like Stamford, Conn., where Royal Bank of Scotland recently established its headquarters.

gramsjdg
Feb 16, 2010, 6:42 PM
Does anybody know about the current status of the communication ring on the roof which encircles the support cables for the spire? I am still confused as to whether they will leave it exposed or cover it as originally intended.
the latest renderings show it exposed, which is absolutely hideous compared to the previous decorative covering :yuck: :koko:
With the covering, it fit in geometrically with the rest of the structure- why are they trying to ruin the design of what is otherwise a very beautiful building?
Is this just a tease or something? You don't have to be an architect to know how bad of a design decision the uncovered ring of microwave dishes is aesthetically. No excuse. None.

Also, is an outdoor observation deck on top of the ring still an option?

MercurySky
Feb 16, 2010, 8:03 PM
I am not sure if the spire is being built or not??

Zensteeldude
Feb 16, 2010, 8:22 PM
The Spire well be built, it is already bought. It may not be built to the current structural design, but it well be built.

Funny, just the other day I was thinking to myself how the old rendering of the rings looked like a UFO out of a bad '50's sifi movie had landed on the roof. To each his own. The current, and final, Tower One design never had the option of a roof top observation deck. There well never bee one either, not without extensive, and expensive, redesign.

Interesting article ya found there NYGuy. He is just confirming what I have been saying all along, Tower One is bought and paid for, it well be finished.

cpaul
Feb 16, 2010, 8:39 PM
two questions, first, how many stories is the tower so far? it's hard to get a good idea of scale since all of the surrounding buildings are also large, and second, why is it that once the base is completed it will rise faster? is the base more complicated? does it use more material? thanks

MadGnome
Feb 16, 2010, 8:49 PM
OK. Somebody's gotta ask. Why does Zensteeldude, one of the more literate and the most knowledgeable poster in this asylum always spell "will" "well"?

Zensteeldude
Feb 16, 2010, 8:49 PM
The current floor going in now is the 20th floor, 186' 8".

Yes the base is more complex, with more steel and concrete (but not in the floors). In a few weeks the tower well look, and go up like, a normal building. A normal 1,368 foot tall building anyway. (weather permitting)

Also, the floors get smaller (as does the core) the higher they go.

Zensteeldude
Feb 16, 2010, 8:51 PM
Because my will well prevent me from doing it any other way. According to Websters New World they are more or less interchangeable.

Muskavon
Feb 16, 2010, 10:09 PM
Because my will well prevent me from doing it any other way. According to Websters New World they are more or less interchangeable.

But my eyes well well up if you continue. ;)

Can't wait for some office floors.

Domamania
Feb 16, 2010, 10:23 PM
One quick question.

Do any of you know what thoes metal looking colomns with holes in them on top of the scaffle that is on the forth picuture down on this page? Thank you

MadGnome
Feb 16, 2010, 10:48 PM
That article lost me. What the heck does a 14 foot slab to slab height have to do with installing a 1/8" thick fiber optics cable? Fibers are insignificant compared to the thousands of wire and coax cables they replace and LED lighting would vastly reduce the power needs and associated wiring of any new building. I replace that old junk with new junk in buildings and ships for a living and that part of that article is complete nonsense.

Zensteeldude
Feb 16, 2010, 11:36 PM
One quick question.

Do any of you know what thoes metal looking colomns with holes in them on top of the scaffle that is on the forth picuture down on this page? Thank you

Those are deck form support beams. They go under the form for a floor slab to support the cement untell it's cured.

Zensteeldude
Feb 16, 2010, 11:37 PM
That article lost me. What the heck does a 14 foot slab to slab height have to do with installing a 1/8" thick fiber optics cable? Fibers are insignificant compared to the thousands of wire and coax cables they replace and LED lighting would vastly reduce the power needs and associated wiring of any new building. I replace that old junk with new junk in buildings and ships for a living and that part of that article is complete nonsense.

I was amused by that myself, ducts for the HVAC systems take up far more room.

Domamania
Feb 17, 2010, 12:09 AM
Those are deck form support beams. They go under the form for a floor slab to support the cement untell it's cured.

Whats a floor slab?

Zensteeldude
Feb 17, 2010, 12:47 AM
Generally speaking a floor slab is a steel re-enforced (steel re-bar) concrete floor with no steel beams supporting it. Once the cement is cured it is self supporting.

A composite floor slab is a concrete floor supported by steel beams almost always with the cement poured over corrugated sheet steel decking. Decking can also be called "leave in place forms".

All the floors from the lobby down are floor slabs, all the floors above the lobby are composite floor slabs. The exception being floors within the core. they are all floor slabs as well.

One last thing floor slabs are usually very thick, 12 to 48 inches in the case of Tower One. Were composit floor slabs are usually less than 8 inches thick, (not including the depth of the steel beams supporting it) and can be as little as 3 inches thick, or even less. (But not in Tower One)

NYguy
Feb 17, 2010, 1:09 AM
Does anybody know about the current status of the communication ring on the roof which encircles the support cables for the spire?

Also, is an outdoor observation deck on top of the ring still an option?

No outdoor deck.

The current version of the ring hasn't been released, but it is similar to the latest version we've been seeing. Also, Zensteeldude provided a drawing with more details.

scalziand
Feb 17, 2010, 1:24 AM
That article lost me. What the heck does a 14 foot slab to slab height have to do with installing a 1/8" thick fiber optics cable? Fibers are insignificant compared to the thousands of wire and coax cables they replace and LED lighting would vastly reduce the power needs and associated wiring of any new building. I replace that old junk with new junk in buildings and ships for a living and that part of that article is complete nonsense.

The cables themselves might not be that big, but I have been under the impression that they are increasingly being routed underneath raised floor systems(such as this (http://www.tateaccessfloors.com/)) to permit ease of reconfiguring the space. The raised floor takes up an additional foot or so of space. Having a higher floor-to-floor height also helps in getting daylight into the building(and increases the LEED score) but that has nothing to with the wiring.

CHAPINM1
Feb 17, 2010, 5:05 AM
Beauty! Looks like they are fixing up the remainder of the "oh shits on the parimeter steel!" Also, great to see them being almost done with the base. Keep up the outstanding pictures everybody, there can simply never be not enough! ;)

Zensteeldude
Feb 17, 2010, 5:28 AM
Generally one only sees the raised floor system in computer rooms etc. not in office space.

mersar
Feb 17, 2010, 8:26 AM
Generally one only sees the raised floor system in computer rooms etc. not in office space.

From what we've heard, the Bow will also have this type of raised floor installed in some of the office space. Its definitely not just for server rooms anymore. I can see it can be especially useful in more of the cubicle farm type environment, where there isn't exactly walls to run the wire through either, and in a number of offices with that type of setup that I've seen (especially in older buildings) they generally end up running this type of stuff in the ceiling instead with poles running stuff down to the desks.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Feb 17, 2010, 2:09 PM
I hope they will think again about an outdoor observation deck. But I doubt.

Does anyone know at wwhich height the indoor observation deck in the 102nd floor will be??

hunser
Feb 17, 2010, 2:48 PM
i think it was 1,266 feet but i'm not sure where the info came from, probably the NYT.

RockMont
Feb 17, 2010, 2:54 PM
That first stage, looks like it has reached its height. Now comes the main part.

NYguy
Feb 17, 2010, 3:04 PM
casscostello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/casspc/4363792197/sizes/o/in/set-72157623430197900/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4363792197_b7088bc679_o.jpg

You Need A Thneed
Feb 17, 2010, 4:23 PM
Generally one only sees the raised floor system in computer rooms etc. not in office space.

Like Mersar said, The Bow tower in Calgary is getting a raised floor system in ALL of the office space (2 million square feet) , and I imagine that 1 WTC is getting the same. It makes reconfiguration of office spce so much easier, less messy, and wastes much less materials. It helps buildings get the LEED rating they want.

Air ducts, power, networking, plumbing, etc are all easy to reconfigure, and it's more futureproof. When a new technology comes along that requires a new type of cable, you don't have to open holes in all the walls just to get that new cable in.

That is what the article is talking about.

MadGnome
Feb 17, 2010, 4:45 PM
The cables themselves might not be that big, but I have been under the impression that they are increasingly being routed underneath raised floor systems(such as this (http://www.tateaccessfloors.com/)) to permit ease of reconfiguring the space. The raised floor takes up an additional foot or so of space. Having a higher floor-to-floor height also helps in getting daylight into the building(and increases the LEED score) but that has nothing to with the wiring.

Makes sense with the large open area plans you see now days. I mostly set up emergency power and comms at disaster sites now and it would sure be nice to have something that didn't require 50 rolls of Gaffers tape to run fibers and wires.
Being able to quickly reconfigure the space would save a whole lot of downtime in some very expensive real estate.
Too bad the writer didn't do a little research instead of making something up when he didn't understand. It's OK for me to do it. Just not other people.

NYguy
Feb 18, 2010, 3:41 AM
^ The bottom line was all in the point he was trying to make - the City needs the new office space.


I've mentioned this before, but when the Freedom Tower rises, there will be a dramatic change in the view down this canyon...

asterix611 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28722563@N05/4353921490/sizes/l/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4353921490_de07beb971_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/4353919516_82d41541c1_b.jpg

J_M_Tungsten
Feb 18, 2010, 5:07 AM
^^^off topic, but what is the history of the building on the right, or if someone knows the name of it, I'll google it? Thanks

ethereal_reality
Feb 18, 2010, 3:29 PM
It's the Whitehall Building, and towering behind it is the Greater Whitehall (as it was called back in the day).



http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7022/11whitehall42.jpg
ebay




This link provide some interesting information.
http://www.communitywalk.com/location/whitehall_building/steamship_offices__piers/1337420

NYguy
Feb 18, 2010, 7:14 PM
^ Yeah, converted to resdidential now I believe.

morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4367570743/sizes/l/) (Feb 18)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/4367570743_1a7c6957a3_b.jpg

kenratboy
Feb 18, 2010, 8:31 PM
I hate to say it, but those huge beams at the very base just don't look that big (though they are probably some of the biggest, heaviest, most-expensive support columns in the world).

2-TOWERS
Feb 18, 2010, 8:50 PM
I hate to say it, but those huge beams at the very base just don't look that big (though they are probably some of the biggest, heaviest, most-expensive support columns in the world).

They are ...Just look at the construction workers in front of them!!!!!!!!!!!

FerrariEnzo
Feb 18, 2010, 9:20 PM
They are ...Just look at the construction workers in front of them!!!!!!!!!!!

Or that hotwheels... I mean Mack truck parked in front of one... They must be 4 feet in width. (maybe more) Plus that core is HUGE at the lower levels.

Zensteeldude
Feb 18, 2010, 10:43 PM
Like Mersar said, The Bow tower in Calgary is getting a raised floor system in ALL of the office space (2 million square feet) , and I imagine that 1 WTC is getting the same. It makes reconfiguration of office spce so much easier, less messy, and wastes much less materials. It helps buildings get the LEED rating they want.

Air ducts, power, networking, plumbing, etc are all easy to reconfigure, and it's more futureproof. When a new technology comes along that requires a new type of cable, you don't have to open holes in all the walls just to get that new cable in.

That is what the article is talking about.

Let's see, all the plumbing is in the core. The HVAC ducts are all above the ceiling.

The office spaces are to be "Tenant fit out" so if someone wants a raised floor system they can have it, as long as they pay for it.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_-_U4BjAAfUM/RtxHjJWJc5I/AAAAAAAAAHM/g-Jby6jL6I0/s640/P1000121.JPG

NYCLuver
Feb 19, 2010, 12:03 AM
February 18th, 2010

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0970.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0971.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0973.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0974.jpg

Zensteeldude
Feb 19, 2010, 12:12 AM
One can really get a feel for the shear mass of Tower One in that second shot. But being a steel building (more or less) it's light and airy.

Great shots NYCLuver.

Bucktown718
Feb 19, 2010, 1:03 AM
Like i said it before that i have my doubts about the base, but now looking at the pictures its hell of a huge base.
Now its up to office floors :]

NYguy
Feb 19, 2010, 4:12 PM
Good to see things all squared now, but that won't last long...:)

(cam shot from today)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/122095714/original.jpg

BStyles
Feb 19, 2010, 8:38 PM
Is she finally done?! It's a dream come true from this pic:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6195/gzrobotic8.jpg
To this:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/gzrobotic1.png
Only 1,576 more feet to go.

steveve
Feb 19, 2010, 10:09 PM
Only 1,576 more feet to go.

Now you're rubbing it in :haha: !

But yes, i think we can say that the base (for the most part) is complete!

We still have a loooong way to go but we'll see how things turn up along the way :) !

metafizarc
Feb 20, 2010, 5:23 AM
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6195/gzrobotic8.jpg




am i in the twilight zone? how does this picture exist? :previous:

genop
Feb 20, 2010, 1:58 PM
am i in the twilight zone? how does this picture exist? :previous:

Lol no your not in the twilight zone. Its a photoshopped pic that was posted on this thread earlier on

Zensteeldude
Feb 20, 2010, 4:40 PM
Is she finally done?! Only 1,576 more feet to go.

Yes, the base is done but there are 1,589' 4" to go. The base is 200 feet square, but 186' 8" high.

If ya really wana get technical the base is 202' 6" square and the glass, when installed well add another 2' 6" to that. (205' total)

vandelay
Feb 20, 2010, 5:24 PM
I have a feeling that once the super redundant and steel heavy base is done the office floors are just going to shoot up. Wishful thinking maybe.

Zensteeldude
Feb 20, 2010, 8:46 PM
Construction should speed up now that the base is finished. I still have my doubts about the floor a week prediction though.

Keep in mind that dispite the fact that it well take longer to get material up to the "working floor" as the tower gets higher there well be less material to hoist. The floors get smaller as does the steel.

I think topping out well be in about 22 months, as predicted.

CoolCzech
Feb 20, 2010, 10:52 PM
Construction should speed up now that the base is finished. I still have my doubts about the floor a week prediction though.

Keep in mind that dispite the fact that it well take longer to get material up to the "working floor" as the tower gets higher there well be less material to hoist. The floors get smaller as does the steel.

I think topping out well be in about 22 months, as predicted.

Compared to all the time that's gone by since 9/11, 22 months will go by like a shot.

CHAPINM1
Feb 21, 2010, 5:15 AM
Seeing that the base is at least 186' 8" high and complete and that the office floor-to-floor height will be 14' high exactly, once the first core steel for the next floor rises this thing should then be at least 200 feet up!

Zensteeldude
Feb 21, 2010, 5:56 PM
The office floor-to-floor height will be 13' 4" making the 21st floor exactly 200'. The next lift of core steel well bring it to 213' 4'' . (Plus about 4' to the column splice.)

CHAPINM1
Feb 21, 2010, 8:24 PM
The office floor-to-floor height will be 13' 4" making the 21st floor exactly 200'. The next lift of core steel well bring it to 213' 4'' . (Plus about 4' to the column splice.)

Thanks for the correction. That will be really cool that the 21st floor will mark a milestone as well!

Zensteeldude
Feb 21, 2010, 10:41 PM
I was just looking at the prints, seeing what to expect this comming week when it hit me.

If the next lift takes 2 weeks that well be 2 floors in 2 weeks, or a floor a week.

Dac150
Feb 21, 2010, 11:09 PM
Giddy up then, sounds good to me. Passed by the site on the WSH last night. For those out there who think this base is on the small side, think again. Very massive and complex base.

steveve
Feb 21, 2010, 11:14 PM
Compared to all the time that's gone by since 9/11, 22 months will go by like a shot.

i hope so :)

But yes, it was a long time before we got to where we are now! 22 months is a very long time but it should be fun to watch (especially with the cladding coming in!)

Zensteeldude
Feb 21, 2010, 11:30 PM
We are probably a good 4 to 6 months away from cladding (aka curtain wall).

The protection walls have yet to be installed up to the 3rd floor (they support the glass and stainless steel grating cladding.) And there is much work to do at the ground floor level before it is safe enough. Don't want a moment of carelessness to break a $1,000 chunk of glass.

CoolCzech
Feb 22, 2010, 12:10 AM
The Ground Zero Outrage.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-02-19/the-ground-zero-outrage/full/

One paragraph that stands out:

Construction has begun on the memorial and on two skyscrapers at ground zero. The steel is now rising above the pit on one of Silverstein’s office buildings and on the 1,776-foot skyscraper that will be the signature tower on the site. But the master plan is history. For the most part, no one can say with certainty what will be built at ground zero or when.

Somewhere, some cheap Port Authority political hack must be feeling awfully proud of himself.

NYguy
Feb 22, 2010, 12:53 AM
I just finished watching the 60 minutes piece, interesting, but most of it we already knew. This tower is moving forward as planned, so in advance, please folks discuss any ground zero problems in their relevant threads. :)

Zensteeldude
Feb 22, 2010, 1:00 AM
Having watched the 60 minutes piece on the WTC I have concluded that they are biased and slanted, 21st century yellow journalism.

I saw 2 or 3 seconds of Tower One, and a conscious effort to ignore the progress of Towers One and Four and the Memorial.

They did make several valid points about politics and bureaucracy and totally ignored all the progress.

Ask two questions, who owns CBS and what is there agenda ?

The answer is an entrainment company and profit. They never let little things like facts get in the way of sales.

uaarkson
Feb 22, 2010, 4:25 AM
I thought this was pretty cool. Google Earth now has a 3D model of 1WTC U/C.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/LM2.png
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/LM.png

uakoops
Feb 22, 2010, 4:31 AM
I thought this was pretty cool. Google Earth now has a 3D model of 1WTC U/C.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/LM2.png
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/LM.png

Interesting.... the model of 1WTC is from about 2 weeks ago, while the memorial is over a year out of date.

NYguy
Feb 22, 2010, 3:29 PM
I thought this was pretty cool. Google Earth now has a 3D model of 1WTC U/C.

More for supertall lovers...
http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2010/02/the_tallest_buildings_in_the_world.html