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Roadcruiser1
Feb 4, 2012, 7:43 PM
another level!!!!!:cheers:


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Carlos your clock is wrong. It's 2:42 PM not 3:35 PM. You went to the future again :D.

Zapatan
Feb 4, 2012, 7:43 PM
Otie already did it a long while ago. So credits to Otie.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6141/5959746092_cc2b70e652_b.jpg


The corners come together directly under the communications ring, not 40 feet below, IE there will still be some non tapered facade at the roof level.

CarlosV
Feb 4, 2012, 7:54 PM
Carlos your clock is wrong. It's 2:42 PM not 3:35 PM. You went to the future again :D.

ooops LOL i get so excited!!!! sorry

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sw5710
Feb 4, 2012, 7:58 PM
[QUOTE=Noll;5576275]Awesome shots from WTC Progress on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress)

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/403594_248923125184933_109423129134934_559422_1261782005_n.jpg

Carlos: The scaffolding you can see the top of it at the foot of the crane in this post before it was jumped up.

Otie
Feb 4, 2012, 8:10 PM
The corners come together directly under the communications ring, not 40 feet below, IE there will still be some non tapered facade at the roof level.

You're right, though your statement has no relation with the rendering quoted since the curtain wall is not displayed. Structural corners are located at the roof slab.

Fluffybagel
Feb 4, 2012, 8:40 PM
another level!!!!!:cheers: and yes we are very spoiled!!!
Hey Carlos, you made a mistake in your watermark. Unless you took it an hour into the future, it should be 2:35!:jester:

Fluffybagel
Feb 4, 2012, 8:42 PM
Lol, nvm. Somebody else caught on it before me. Didn't notice that, sorry.:duh

sw5710
Feb 4, 2012, 8:59 PM
Carlos:

Can you do an extreme close up on the top of the tower. :)

chris123678
Feb 4, 2012, 9:25 PM
Looking at Oties Diagram, i don't see a 93- 97th floor.

So are those floors there?

QUEENSNYMAN
Feb 4, 2012, 9:40 PM
FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3bNhzZP8nY

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 4, 2012, 9:42 PM
ooops LOL i get so excited!!!! sorry

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Wait more steel went up?!

Otie
Feb 4, 2012, 9:58 PM
Looking at Oties Diagram, i don't see a 93- 97th floor.

So are those floors there?

They simply don't exist. As well as 7 through 19.

CarlosV
Feb 4, 2012, 10:27 PM
Back to the future!!

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NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 4, 2012, 11:15 PM
I took these today from Morristown.

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jd3189
Feb 5, 2012, 3:43 AM
This tower will be one of the greatest ever built in our time, despite not having the WTB title. The Old WTC didn't have it for long either,but that doesn't make the iconic status any less. This will be even more famous than the Burj Khalifa when it's completed and will encourage us to build taller often when necessary.

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 5, 2012, 3:48 AM
^ To show how iconic this building is... About 8 million people live in NYC, and about less than 3 million know that a NEW WTC is even being built.

NewYorkDominates
Feb 5, 2012, 4:02 AM
^ To show how iconic this building is... About 8 million people live in NYC, and about less than 3 million know that a NEW WTC is even being built.

How do you know the numbers?Also,how would they not know when that thing sticks out and can be seen up to 40 miles.:shrug:

1Boston
Feb 5, 2012, 4:02 AM
Back to the future!!

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Anyone else notice the eye being reflected off the glass from the sun? sort of reminds me of the dollar bill

oblivionlml
Feb 5, 2012, 4:04 AM
^ To show how iconic this building is... About 8 million people live in NYC, and about less than 3 million know that a NEW WTC is even being built.

Wow, really? That is amazing...

jd3189
Feb 5, 2012, 4:05 AM
:previous:They will know. If they heard of 9/11 and even saw the events occur, one of these days when those New Yorkers are driving in the Brooklyn Bridge or are about to come back to the city by passing New Jersey, they will see that something is different in the Lower Manhattan skyline. And Hollywood will just spread the news like wildfire as well. Yep, 1 WTC is going to be bigger news when all is said and done. Not news everyone will know,but it will be known more in the future than now.

adam_777
Feb 5, 2012, 4:14 AM
Exactly how could one not know it is being built. From the airtrain at JFK you notice 2 things the Empire State and 1 WTC, they are huge and everything else looks non existent. Maybe they don't realize its the world trade center, But I'd find it hard to believe that any person entering Manhattan wouldn't glance at that tower for at least few seconds.

PZelda
Feb 5, 2012, 4:32 AM
I have to say, I never was a fan of this building, but the taller it gets, the better it looks. I didn't expect it to look so iconic in the skyline, it's beautiful! I'm not that bummed out that the other towers have been delayed because this tower along with 4WTC really have filled out the skyline quite nicely. :tup: It's exciting to see that old view of New York again, I can't wait to see the view from the observation deck someday...

Ha, I totally agree with that! 1 WTC (and 4 WTC) is filling out the skyline quite nicely right now. It's going to be SO weird when it's completely topped out/completely cladded... I'm so used to the under-construction building. It just feels completely right to me whenever I see skyline pictures. :)

Roadcruiser1
Feb 5, 2012, 4:58 AM
You can say that people. I know people that think that this building would be shorter than the original Twin Towers of the World Trade Center.

NewYorkDominates
Feb 5, 2012, 5:28 AM
http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/images/2012/02/iron-sky-poster.jpg
The tower is going to be iconic.

cadiomals
Feb 5, 2012, 5:44 AM
^ To show how iconic this building is... About 8 million people live in NYC, and about less than 3 million know that a NEW WTC is even being built.

That's impossible. Anyone living anywhere near Manhattan can't not know 1 WTC exists. It's a huge building and you can almost see it from the east side of Brooklyn. I say cite your source, or did you just make up that number?

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 5, 2012, 5:55 AM
^ Immigrants make up 40% of the city population. Very few immigrants know about the WTC. That leaves about 5 million people who live in NYC born in the USA. About 1.1 million KIDS go to 1,700 schools in NYC. Some are immigrants. So lets round off to 700,000 kids born in the USA who go to school in NYC. Some kids are smart but most kids don't know shit. That leaves 4.3 million. 41,000 homeless people live in NYC. Some were at one point middle class, but most don't know about the WTC. That leaves 4.2 million. 1.3 million people in NYC are over the age of 60. Half might know about the WTC. That leaves 3.6 million people.

Lovetowers
Feb 5, 2012, 6:47 AM
That's impossible. Anyone living anywhere near Manhattan can't not know 1 WTC exists. It's a huge building and you can almost see it from the east side of Brooklyn. I say cite your source, or did you just make up that number?

I am sooooo not defending any one argument over the other, however, I do have a friend here in California who is from NYCity ,she stayed in Manhattan for a while and didnt even really know about the old World Trade Center towers like that until 9/11. I called her real ignorant for that lol . . . but its a possilbilty either way :cool: . . . just sayin . . . dont tar and feather me

adam_777
Feb 5, 2012, 6:52 AM
Apparently immigrants don't notice tall buildings? funny considering how many of them helped build landmark skyscrapers like the Empire State.

I think there is a big difference between not knowing it exists and caring about its construction. I'm sure there are plenty of people who view it as a building and nothing more and really don't follow anything about it, But most of those people are probably aware a new large building is being erected downtown.

In regards to other comments about the observation decks I wonder if the 3 deck system is because they are expecting a large demand. I love Rockefeller Centers top of the Rock because of its 3 floors which allow you to usually find a good spot to stake out without being overrun like the Empire State's decks.

NewYorker2009
Feb 5, 2012, 10:02 AM
Perhaps back in 2008 people had no idea a new World Trade Center, more specifically Tower One was being built because there was nothing to show for. I've noticed a lot more New Yorkers actually know about Tower One now because it stands out in the skyline. It's not steel beams just starting to rise from a foundation anymore, it's a skyscraper now. The same goes for Tower 4 because look how far that one has come along and it's been under construction about 4 years now meanwhile Tower 1 will hit 6 years this coming April.

RockMont
Feb 5, 2012, 10:07 AM
^ To show how iconic this building is... About 8 million people live in NYC, and about less than 3 million know that a NEW WTC is even being built.



I know all about it, and I'm all the way out here in Denver.

CarlosV
Feb 5, 2012, 11:37 AM
from a distance...

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Otie
Feb 5, 2012, 2:08 PM
In regards to other comments about the observation decks I wonder if the 3 deck system is because they are expecting a large demand. I love Rockefeller Centers top of the Rock because of its 3 floors which allow you to usually find a good spot to stake out without being overrun like the Empire State's decks.

Yup, the designing team made an estimate of the total number of visitors and realised they would need the 102nd floor. I'm guessing you'll be able to choose between 100 & 101 and the 102nd.


The same goes for Tower 4 because look how far that one has come along and it's been under construction about 4 years now

So true, people is starting to confuse which one is the "Freedom Tower".

Fluffybagel
Feb 5, 2012, 2:38 PM
Trailing away from the controversial argument that's taking place right now, I have a question about the beacon. According to wtc.com, the spire emits a horizontal beam of light from its beacon.http://www.wtc.com/about/freedom-tower/1-world-trade-center-design You guys are saying the beacon shoots the light vertically. I'm really confused right now, can somebody who knows what their talking about please help?:shrug:

NYguy
Feb 5, 2012, 3:16 PM
Trailing away from the controversial argument that's taking place right now, I have a question about the beacon. According to wtc.com, the spire emits a horizontal beam of light from its beacon.http://www.wtc.com/about/freedom-tower/1-world-trade-center-design You guys are saying the beacon shoots the light vertically. I'm really confused right now, can somebody who knows what their talking about please help?:shrug:

A little bit of both depening on which animation you see.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/140858125/original.jpg





As far as knowledge of the rebuilding goes, there are many people who aren't aware of exactly what is going on, even as they see the towers rise. (most people in general just aren't into skyscrapers). Of the people who are aware, most of them think the Freedom Tower will be the world's tallest. When this tower is [i]built[i], it will become the face of New York around the world. David Childs designed this tower to be simple and iconic, something even a child could remember. I will rival the Empire State itself in terms of popularity.


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alan88
Feb 5, 2012, 3:18 PM
Trailing away from the controversial argument that's taking place right now, I have a question about the beacon. According to wtc.com, the spire emits a horizontal beam of light from its beacon.http://www.wtc.com/about/freedom-tower/1-world-trade-center-design You guys are saying the beacon shoots the light vertically. I'm really confused right now, can somebody who knows what their talking about please help?:shrug:

The beam will be horizontal - It was originally conceived to blink the letter N in Morse code but the mirror and mechanism were very complicated and probably would not have survived the environment and first few lightning strikes. So it will be a horizontal beam like a light house beacon and will be provided by strong lighting. Here is their URL http://www.strong-world.com/Products/Lighting.aspx


alan

Fluffybagel
Feb 5, 2012, 3:23 PM
Thanks for the prompt, concise, and clear responces guys, it really helped:)

CarlosV
Feb 5, 2012, 3:50 PM
Beautiful morning in NYC.....cold but sunny!



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viewguysf
Feb 5, 2012, 4:08 PM
I know all about it, and I'm all the way out here in Denver.

The same for me in San Francisco along with many others here. The anti immigrant statements are absurd and plainly ignorant too.

Fluffybagel
Feb 5, 2012, 4:26 PM
:previous: Yeah, and according to him, all hobos, elders, and children are completely stupid and oblivious of their surroundings. Ridiculous assumptions. in my opinion.

Fluffybagel
Feb 5, 2012, 4:31 PM
And P.S., you have any statistics that support your numbers? Because it seems that your just assuming that if the person isn't a U.S. born legal adult in NYC, they can't take the time to notice the most obvious in their surroundings. You don't need to be a genius to recognize that construction is occurring. Ignorance shouldn't affiliate with cluelessness, IMO.

Fluffybagel
Feb 5, 2012, 4:32 PM
Sorry, I double posted that. Only meant to do it once.

NewYorkDominates
Feb 5, 2012, 4:37 PM
Beautiful morning in NYC.....cold but sunny!



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Do you believe the perimeter columns are going to be installed today?Also,let's go Giants.From a Nashvillian

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 5, 2012, 4:38 PM
That's impossible. Anyone living anywhere near Manhattan can't not know 1 WTC exists. It's a huge building and you can almost see it from the east side of Brooklyn. I say cite your source, or did you just make up that number?

Agreed. I have many relatives throughout New England and they have been asking our family how the tower is coming along...as for it being seen, it's been viewed from as far as 45 miles as of right now and possibly farther. You can see that from the pictures I just took yesterday on the previous pages

sw5710
Feb 5, 2012, 4:59 PM
I have heard that the NYC skyline can be seen from some of the higher mountains in the Newburgh-beacon area.

steveve
Feb 5, 2012, 5:05 PM
I took these on Wednesday/Thursday of this week from my visit on the 53rd floor of the Millennium Hilton, i have more photos from ground level that i will post at a later time...

**** Does anyone know how to stitch photos together (like a panorama kind of thing vertically).. because i want to put some photos together so i can get the whole tower in the frame, because this thing was WAY too huge to capture in a single shot, and i want to make a large vertical shot of it... do you use photoshop/a website???

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7170/6823958265_b8a67815bc_b.jpg

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*also, this was my first time taking night photos with a tripod with a point-and-shoot, if anyone has any tips on taking these kinds of photos please pm me

cadiomals
Feb 5, 2012, 5:16 PM
Does anyone have any details on the beacon of light that will be at the spire on top of the tower? Will it be a vertical beam projected up into the sky (sort of like the tribute of light) or a horizontal beam like a lighthouse? Will there even be a beam of light at all?

I think it's a really cool idea to have a bright beam of light shown from that building, it would be a beacon seen from miles around, so people all around will always know where New York is.

steveve
Feb 5, 2012, 5:56 PM
More photos from Feb 1

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Photos by me: steveve

CarlosV
Feb 5, 2012, 5:56 PM
Do you believe the perimeter columns are going to be installed today?Also,let's go Giants.From a Nashvillian

I don't think so....:shrug:

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Fluffybagel
Feb 5, 2012, 6:25 PM
Does anyone have any details on the beacon of light that will be at the spire on top of the tower? Will it be a vertical beam projected up into the sky (sort of like the tribute of light) or a horizontal beam like a lighthouse? Will there even be a beam of light at all?

I think it's a really cool idea to have a bright beam of light shown from that building, it would be a beacon seen from miles around, so people all around will always know where New York is.

I just asked that question this morning....look back a page. :)

NewYorkDominates
Feb 5, 2012, 6:41 PM
I don't think so....:shrug:

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Who cares.They also have the right to watch the Super Bowl.Today is a day to stay home and watch the game.Don't forget people's favorite part,the Ads.

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 5, 2012, 6:47 PM
And P.S., you have any statistics that support your numbers? Because it seems that your just assuming that if the person isn't a U.S. born legal adult in NYC, they can't take the time to notice the most obvious in their surroundings. You don't need to be a genius to recognize that construction is occurring. Ignorance shouldn't affiliate with cluelessness, IMO.

^ What am I your step father. Stop being LAZY get off your but and research just like I did. Everything I stated is true that's the only hint I can give you.

QUEENSNYMAN
Feb 5, 2012, 6:57 PM
FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y45PucA4_dw

Fluffybagel
Feb 5, 2012, 6:59 PM
^ What am I your step father. Stop being LAZY get off your but and research just like I did. Everything I stated is true that's the only hint I can give you.
It's easy to find out how many elders, immagrants, children and homeless people reside in New York City. That's just an easy trip to census.gov. However, how did you come up with the fact that none of these groups have any clue of something that is plainly obvious? (its a supertall in lower Manhattan, for crying out loud!) Your ignorant assumptions implies that these groups are incompetent, which is, as I said before, an ignorant observation. Come back when you have solid information to back you up, and not just predictions drawn by population compositions.:whip:

NewYorkDominates
Feb 5, 2012, 7:29 PM
^ What am I your step father. Stop being LAZY get off your but and research just like I did. Everything I stated is true that's the only hint I can give you.

Please ban this guy.Big Apple sucks(the guy)

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 5, 2012, 7:36 PM
^ Hasn't even been a month since you joined, and already pissin vinegar. Please shut the hell up because I proved everyone wrong with simple demographic data and information available to the public for free. NOW back to 1 WTC. (ps. How dare you say the greatest city in the world sucks)

Sid Vicious
Feb 5, 2012, 7:49 PM
whats the new height? :tup::cheers:

NewYorker2009
Feb 5, 2012, 7:50 PM
Great pics as always Carlos! I think new perimeter columns should go up this week, hopefully lol. LETS GO GIANTS! :cool:

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 5, 2012, 7:52 PM
LMCC (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx)

*The following information was last updated on February 3, 2012.

-Tower steel is now above floor 91. It is expected to top out in spring 2012.
-Facade installation is now above floor 66
-Concrete is now being installed above floor 85
-Installation of the 400-foot-tall antenna in spring 2012.
-Spray-on fireproofing underway
-Elevator shaft fit-out
-Multiple cranes on site for steel and concrete installation
-Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
-"Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
-Utility installation and tie-ins
-Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

I'd say it'll top out by May (earliest) or June

sw5710
Feb 5, 2012, 8:04 PM
whats the new height? :tup::cheers:

the core columns are up to floor 91 or 1,157' to the splices.

NewYorkDominates
Feb 5, 2012, 8:08 PM
^ Hasn't even been a month since you joined, and already pissin vinegar. Please shut the hell up because I proved everyone wrong with simple demographic data and information available to the public for free. NOW back to 1 WTC. (ps. How dare you say the greatest city in the world sucks)

Doesn't matter if I joined yesterday or 4 years ago,what matters is you have enraged people because your basing your assumptions on immigrants,the very people who made the Empire State Building possible.Whatever,I'm going to move on and next time I'm going to be wise enough to not reply back.

How is the work going on the 1WTC Carlos?Also,isn't completion still on schedule and slated to be TO by April(Roof portion)?

2-TOWERS
Feb 5, 2012, 8:13 PM
I don't think so....:shrug:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6824313273_69b8c62cef_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6824313273/)
DSC_5367 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6824313273/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr
Great shots Carlos....have a feeling you will be busy with the Carlos Cam this week ( Perimeter Columns ) Can't wait...
Giants Rock

Roadcruiser1
Feb 5, 2012, 8:23 PM
Since new members have been asking about how the new World Trade Center would look like at night again...

New World Trade Center at night. Credits to WTC.com.

http://batteryparkcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/18_31_View-from-Hudson-River-by-Night-credit-dbox-courtesy-SPI.jpg

http://batteryparkcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/18_31_World-Trade-Center-by-Night-credit-dbox-courtesy-SPI.jpg

Note: Changes have been made to One World Trade Center's base so it looks different, and the X beams have been removed from Three World Trade Center.

There is a documentary that uses the renderings called "Rising:Rebuilding of Ground Zero".

Here is a rendering from the company. Credits to Dbox.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dlDky6npT38/TlfXmgoYYnI/AAAAAAAABKw/1inevigfuSE/s1600/17.jpg

Something from WTC.com to complete what I posted a page ago.

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_36_dbox_99church_dusk_revised%5B1%5D.jpg

FMIII
Feb 5, 2012, 8:25 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6823962515_0cfed2a19f_b.jpg

Credit : steveve

I love that picture :) This is NYC, the city of lights back on track.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 5, 2012, 8:25 PM
LMCC (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx)

*The following information was last updated on February 3, 2012.



I'd say it'll top out by May (earliest) or June


Im sorry I don't agree with that chart..it has said facade above floor 66 since November. The glass is definitely higher than that.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 5, 2012, 8:27 PM
I have heard that the NYC skyline can be seen from some of the higher mountains in the Newburgh-beacon area.

I have actually seen a picture a guy took from there..it's very impressive, more than 55 miles..

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 5, 2012, 8:31 PM
Im sorry I don't agree with that chart..it has said facade above floor 66 since November. The glass is definitely higher than that.

I counted it, and it's up to floor 50 in actuality floor 70 (because of the 20 floors below the office portion. So it's not TOO far off, but floor 70.

Fluffybagel
Feb 5, 2012, 9:10 PM
Nice pics, Roadcruiser1.

Noll
Feb 5, 2012, 9:42 PM
I'm sorry if this question has been asked before, but what is up what these boards on the buildings facade as shown in the picture below?

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/639/wtc1m.jpg

Oh, and btw - Go Giants!!

Roadcruiser1
Feb 5, 2012, 9:54 PM
I'm sorry if this question has been asked before, but what is up what these boards on the buildings facade as shown in the picture below?

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/639/wtc1m.jpg

They were left like that for them to install glass on the base or something like that.

QUEENSNYMAN
Feb 5, 2012, 9:59 PM
FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD8n9RNQ1U0

marshall
Feb 5, 2012, 10:04 PM
When the topping out occurs, it will be a pretty big news story, and really focus attention on the building like never before, more so than even the 10th anniversary of the attacks did..We will probably see several specials and news cameras at the building, and maybe even at the top itself when the ribbon is cut or whatever ceremony they have up their in the sky.The building will also look taller when the bottom cladding is put on, it will look more streamlined then. I think many naysayers are beginning to appreciate this building now that its potential is being realized.

JACKinBeantown
Feb 5, 2012, 10:39 PM
I think many naysayers are beginning to appreciate this building now that its potential is being realized.

Go 1WTC! ... and Giants.

alan88
Feb 5, 2012, 10:56 PM
They worked today welding column splices on 88 and moment connections on 89 & 90. Weather permitting there should be three trucks of steel delivered tomorrow.

599GTO
Feb 6, 2012, 12:02 AM
The beam will be horizontal - It was originally conceived to blink the letter N in Morse code but the mirror and mechanism were very complicated and probably would not have survived the environment and first few lightning strikes. So it will be a horizontal beam like a light house beacon and will be provided by strong lighting. Here is their URL http://www.strong-world.com/Products/Lighting.aspx

alan

This is so confusing. This entire time I thought it was a vertical beacon of light like in this render:

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8477/view1ry6.jpg

There are more renderings that show a light shooting vertically. Vertical would be better.., makes the tower look much taller.

Hopefully, the horizontal beacon is very powerful and moves around like the beacon on the Eiffel Tower if we're getting a horizontal light show.

cadiomals
Feb 6, 2012, 12:14 AM
This is so confusing. This entire time I thought it was a vertical beacon of light like in this render:

There are more renderings that show a light shooting vertically. Vertical would be better.., makes the tower look much taller.

Hopefully, the horizontal beacon is very powerful and moves around like the beacon on the Eiffel Tower if we're getting a horizontal light show.

Both would be very nice, but would probably use up a lot of energy. Imagine a vertical beam of light shooting into the sky like an extended spire, probably able to be seen for at least 50 miles on a clear night, along with a rotating horizontal beam like a giant light house. That would be awesome!!!:banana: In the end though if I had to choose it would be the vertical beam; the idea of an "extended spire" that can be seen in the sky for miles around is very cool to me. Unfortunately its the horizontal beam, which is cool too.

cadiomals
Feb 6, 2012, 12:25 AM
The smooth, solid, unbroken glass facade really belies the height of this building in photos. I was in Lower Manhattan several hours ago and I went to check out this building. It is HUGE. All the photos I've seen cannot adequately convey the size of this building. In the original Twin Towers, the vertical beams in the facade gave you a good idea in the photos of how big they were. But the new WTC won't have that. So to truly experience the incredible size of these buildings you have to come to LM and experience them yourself, up close and personal. I was almost overwhelmed by how unexpectedly big it was compared to what I'd seen in photos:banana:

sw5710
Feb 6, 2012, 1:27 AM
I just read that welding has been taking place on 88,89 and 90 and they have finished the deck on 90 today.

NewYorkDominates
Feb 6, 2012, 2:03 AM
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=hJmFJHVFE-0
All credit goes to altitude9 on YouTube

Domamania
Feb 6, 2012, 3:19 AM
I have actually seen a picture a guy took from there..it's very impressive, more than 55 miles..

To be honest, you can see Tower 1 WTC from mount Ninham's Fire tower located in carmel Ny about 65 miles away on a clear day.

Davidsam52
Feb 6, 2012, 3:43 AM
GIANTS WIN!!! I would hope (if not expect) that 1 WTC will be fully clad in deep blue lights (with maybe an accent of red) by tomorrow evening!!:banana::banana::dancingtaco:dancingtaco:dancingbacon:dancingbacon:cucumber::cucumber::apple::apple::leek::leek::thrasher::thrasher:

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 6, 2012, 3:50 AM
To be honest, you can see Tower 1 WTC from mount Ninham's Fire tower located in carmel Ny about 65 miles away on a clear day.

Sorry but that's not 65 miles. Maybe by car but as the crow flies it's 44 miles.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 6, 2012, 3:54 AM
The beam will be horizontal - It was originally conceived to blink the letter N in Morse code but the mirror and mechanism were very complicated and probably would not have survived the environment and first few lightning strikes. So it will be a horizontal beam like a light house beacon and will be provided by strong lighting. Here is their URL http://www.strong-world.com/Products/Lighting.aspx


alan

I don't agree with that. The morse code thing is happening, it's going to be a green or red light. The light will project over 1,000 feet over the spire. Where did you get this info from? I read this on the PA website

sw5710
Feb 6, 2012, 4:10 AM
.........

sw5710
Feb 6, 2012, 4:12 AM
Go to page 956 and go down the page there is a diagram. Post#19116

Domamania
Feb 6, 2012, 4:18 AM
Sorry but that's not 65 miles. Maybe by car but as the crow flies it's 44 miles.

http://www.planputnam.org/highlands/firetower/index.htm, Thats proff that Tower 1 and the fire tower in carmel new york is 65 miles from each other. I live 10 minutes from ninham, and i have lived in lower manhattan right near the WTC.

On a clear night i can see Tower 1 and its lights clearly. and just imagine with 2 hundred feet to the roof, and 4 hundred feet with the spire and beacon of light. My view at 1,200 feet up will be beautiful. This building will be really beautiful.

hunser
Feb 6, 2012, 11:24 AM
GIANTS WIN!!! I would hope (if not expect) that 1 WTC will be fully clad in deep blue lights (with maybe an accent of red) by tomorrow evening!!:banana::banana::dancingtaco:dancingtaco:dancingbacon:dancingbacon:cucumber::cucumber::apple::apple::leek::leek::thrasher::thrasher:

Yeah man!! What a night! Let's hope the ESB will be lit for that special occasion... :yes:

CarlosV
Feb 6, 2012, 12:11 PM
:banana::cheers::worship::dancingtaco:fireworks

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Otie
Feb 6, 2012, 1:05 PM
I don't agree with that. The morse code thing is happening, it's going to be a green or red light. The light will project over 1,000 feet over the spire. Where did you get this info from? I read this on the PA website

He's involved in the project. ;)

NewYorkDominates
Feb 6, 2012, 1:12 PM
I think no steel today,wind alerts over 45 MPH.Hopefully I'm completely wrong though because I want to see me some perimeter steel erected.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 6, 2012, 2:49 PM
http://www.planputnam.org/highlands/firetower/index.htm, Thats proff that Tower 1 and the fire tower in carmel new york is 65 miles from each other. I live 10 minutes from ninham, and i have lived in lower manhattan right near the WTC.

On a clear night i can see Tower 1 and its lights clearly. and just imagine with 2 hundred feet to the roof, and 4 hundred feet with the spire and beacon of light. My view at 1,200 feet up will be beautiful. This. building will be really beautiful.

Oh I'm really sorry! I thought you meant the fire island fire tower in long island. I apologize I sounded like such a snob. I've never heard of the place but nOw that I saw that link I wanna go there. And yeah you're view will good if you have binoculars I guess or maybe at night. Is it hard to see the skyline from that far? I've seen it from 45 miles at max at Six Flags

Ed007Toronto
Feb 6, 2012, 2:56 PM
Great shot Carlos

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 6, 2012, 3:06 PM
Go to page 956 and go down the page there is a diagram. Post#19116

I don't know. It seems like there's no certain source to back that up. Most recent diagrams show a vertical beam plus the website say "from a beacon, a vertical beam of light will project over 1,000 feet above the tower and will contain a flashing red light at the base that will singal the letter "N" for New York in morse code. This tower will also act as a sort of lighthouse that can be seen from over 70 miles, as far as Pennsylvania, Long Beach Island, and far North connecticut such as Bridgeport." :shrug:

RockMont
Feb 6, 2012, 4:29 PM
GIANTS WIN!!! I would hope (if not expect) that 1 WTC will be fully clad in deep blue lights (with maybe an accent of red) by tomorrow evening!!:banana::banana::dancingtaco:dancingtaco:dancingbacon:dancingbacon:cucumber::cucumber::apple::apple::leek::leek::thrasher::thrasher:

I think green and blue would look pretty cool together on that tower. If and when the Giants and Jets make the playoffs at the same time.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 6, 2012, 4:38 PM
I think green and blue would look pretty cool together on that tower. If and when the Giants and Jets make the playoffs at the same time.

http://www.esbnyc.com/current_events_tower_lights.asp

Use this as a reference..scroll down :tup:

alan88
Feb 6, 2012, 6:01 PM
I have seen the change order issued to Five Star Electric for the beacon, so I know what it will be when installed. It was never going to be an upward beacon and there is nothing on the official PA website www.wtcprogress.com, that I see that says it is blinking letter N anymore. The www.WTC.com website is a silverstein properties website and they are not responsible for the building and would not be aware of changes.

alan

sw5710
Feb 6, 2012, 6:39 PM
I heard the cranes are back in operation now.

dchan
Feb 6, 2012, 6:57 PM
I have seen the change order issued to Five Star Electric for the beacon, so I know what it will be when installed. It was never going to be an upward beacon and there is nothing on the official PA website www.wtcprogress.com, that I see that says it is blinking letter N anymore. The www.WTC.com website is a silverstein properties website and they are not responsible for the building and would not be aware of changes.

alan

I'm pretty sure that Silverstein Properties would be aware of pretty much any change orders that arise, since they are acting as the owners of the building (even if they don't technically own it). They're just not in the business of updating their websites to sate the interests of skyscraper enthusiasts who are interested in all sorts of major and minor construction details. Nor is it the business of the Port Authority to do so with their own website.

Basically, we can observe and report the updates that are posted on these websites, but we shouldn't rely on them as being completely accurate or current. And we certainly shouldn't be using them as rock-solid sources to back up our opinions and claims. After all, what was the last project of any kind in which the owners and construction company were forthright with keeping the public informed of exactly what they were doing, and when they were doing it?

bunky
Feb 6, 2012, 7:11 PM
Crane Jump

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 6, 2012, 7:17 PM
I have seen the change order issued to Five Star Electric for the beacon, so I know what it will be when installed. It was never going to be an upward beacon and there is nothing on the official PA website www.wtcprogress.com, that I see that says it is blinking letter N anymore. The www.WTC.com website is a silverstein properties website and they are not responsible for the building and would not be aware of changes.

alan

Well i doubt it'll be a horizontal beam if that's what you're saying. On the order for the beacon, they wouldn't order a flashing N, it's a fact not partof an order. It may still be there but they didn'tmention it. Btw would you happen to know when they would start the communication ring/mast as soon as it's topped out?

mfastx
Feb 6, 2012, 7:19 PM
That Dbox rendering is the best rendering of any building/buildings I have ever seen.