NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[Duck From NY]

Everything you say is totally normal: it a sort of 'death syndrome" : people or things are by far more appreciated after their disparition.
Same for titanic, the perfect example of how an unsignificant ship became a legend after it sinked.


For 1WTC, i suppose the new tower has been designed to resist plane attacks, or parking bombs (that's the reason of the concrete base, i imagine)

I still think the Twin Towers were ugly, no offense to anyone. I like 1 WTC, and I think most people do so far.

[NYguy]

Enough of the Twin Towers people. There are multiple threads to discuss them over in the B&A forum.


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[RockMont]

I'm sure 2 and maybe 3 WTC will make up for it. Especially 2 WTC since it could create that mock Twin Towers-like view from the harbor.

The problem is that the Port Authority needs to pull its collective head out of its collective ass, and get with the program. Those buildings #2 and #3 were designed to replace what was there. The twins, and the short rises, and whatever else was there. Like Mr. Silverstein said, just to build the damn things and accept whatever finincial risk there is. Instead they're just pinching every penny, and hoarding every dollar they can. Bunch of greedy beaureaucratic bastards!

[RockMont]

People need to get over, being spooked by the shapes of buildings. If that is the case, are we going to be spooked by the shape of a Boeing 757, or 767, every time we have to get on a plane and fly somewhere? Are people going to be spooked by a large truck, driving down the road, similar to the one that Timothy McVeigh used when he bombed the government building in Oklahoma City? What about something like an auto mishap, involving a certain type of vehicle? Any vehicle. It would be like being scared of, for example being scared of a SUV driving down the street, or riding in one, just because you were involved in an accident, where that type was involved. Come on folks, life itself is a risk in its own right, lets stop being scared of something because of something so superficial, such as the architectural style of buildings. That was what those middle-eastern lowlives wanted, was for us to be afraid. Instead we need to be more defiant. I'd like to believe that they were not rebuild in that style because it was outdated and not economically feasible. Unfortunately, though, I think that idiot governor at that time, was thinking otherwise. Too many people scared of what the shape of what they were before. We need to get over ourselves.

[uaarkson]

Someone who can't get over the loss of the twin towers should not be preaching to people about getting over anything. Also, get this discussion in the appropriate thread, for the love of fuck.

[CarlosV]

:)

It looks like steel is being erected on top of 1 WTC! as well as 4 WTC :banana:

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[Roadcruiser1]

:)

It looks like steel is being erected on top of 1 WTC! as well as 4 WTC :banana:

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Yes! Carlos if this is correct One World Trade Center is now 1,313 feet tall.

[PZelda]

Sorry, that wasn't my intention. When I think of that day, I think of all the people who never made it home. The ones who boarded the 4 planes, not knowing they would die very shortly after.

I have every intention of going to 1 WTC when it opens and visiting the observatory, as I never had the opportunity pre-9/11 to go to New York. I just wanted to give my .02, and that came out worse than that sounded and again I apologize.

[Roadcruiser1]

Sorry, that wasn't my intention. When I think of that day, I think of all the people who never made it home. The ones who boarded the 4 planes, not knowing they would die very shortly after.

I have every intention of going to 1 WTC when it opens and visiting the observatory, as I never had the opportunity pre-9/11 to go to New York. I just wanted to give my .02, and that came out worse than that sounded and again I apologize.

It's alright, but you shouldn't make yourself look fearful. You are letting the terrorists win you over. No one wants that.

[CarlosV]

^^^

it is true!!!! :cheers:

took out my big guns! (800 mm lens) :)

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[NewYorkDominates]

That has to be the smallest piece of steel ever put.

[sw5710]

Steel column is up to floor 104 with splices 1,317'

[Roadcruiser1]

That has to be the smallest piece of steel ever put.

It might look small, but that beam is 20 feet high.

[PZelda]

It's alright, but you shouldn't make yourself look fearful. You are letting the terrorists win you over. No one wants that.

That's true! I do agree (and hope) that an event on that kind of scale will never happen again. I have followed this project from the beginning and I've found it fascinating what has been done to ensure another attack doesn't happen. But - I am not a serious skyscraper enthusiast like most/all of you guys are... So - I am learning! And seeing things differently.

[PZelda]

I wonder - will this be the jump where the corners finally meet to complete the triangles? They were super close to meeting with the last jump. :)

[NYC GUY]

^^^
So the next jump will be the parapet?

[sw5710]

I wonder - will this be the jump where the corners finally meet to complete the triangles? They were super close to meeting with the last jump. :)

This takes us to floor # 104 at 1,313' 10'' The next jump will be to the roof #105 or 1,334' 8''
That is where the corners meet. The roof.

[Roadcruiser1]

^^^
So the next jump will be the parapet?

No we still have floor 105 next. After that is the parapet. However Four World Trade Center's next jump is the parapet. Four World Trade Center is going to finish first.

[Modulair]

new steel...
So it means that.....
... that 1WTC has reached 400 meters !!!

:cheers: :cheers:

ultimate milestone !!!

[Roadcruiser1]

new steel...
So it means that.....
... that 1WTC has reached 400 meters !!!

:cheers: :cheers:

ultimate milestone !!!

Yes! Exactly 400 meters.

[PZelda]

This takes us to floor # 104 at 1,313' 10'' The next jump will be to the roof #105 or 1,334' 8''
That is where the corners meet. The roof.

Sweet! :D I was thinking of the rendering that Carlos did about a month or so back (illustrating how close it was to T/O) then Otie posted a diagram... We had all agreed there was about 100 feet until the corners met, but I'm not sure what floor it was at the time.

Sooooo close now!! :)

[CarlosV]

7 columns added so far :)

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[chris123678]

So, these columns are for the 104 floor?
They are really small?
Also since when was there a 105 floor?

[Roadcruiser1]

So, these columns are for the 104 floor?
They are really small?
Also since when was there a 105 floor?

These are columns for floor 104. There was always a floor 105.

[1Boston]

Lost the Battle?
Regardless of whether we built here or not. The Battle was won on May 1, 2011.
The spire does not determine whether we win a battle. It's the fact that we rebuild. Although it will take some time, when towers 2 and 3 stand with One and Four. We will have a beautiful safe enviroment filled with architecture beauty.
No site is perfect,

We're talking about two different things. You're talking about the general wtc site going up, I'm talking about the design of the building. We lost the battle with Durst ruining the design of 1wtc, I think everyone can agree with that. The only winner there is Durst.

[chris123678]

We're talking about two different things. You're talking about the general wtc site going up, I'm talking about the design of the building. We lost the battle with Durst ruining the design of 1wtc, I think everyone can agree with that. The only winner there is Durst.

Durst didn't ruin the the design.
Most of the changes they did, with the exception of the spire was for the better of the building.

[RockMont]

All the changes, the spire notwithstanding were for the better. This design is much better than, Leibeskind's original nightmare. The one he thought he was going to kill birds with by letting them fly into windmills and fan propellers.

[jd3189]

We're talking about two different things. You're talking about the general wtc site going up, I'm talking about the design of the building. We lost the battle with Durst ruining the design of 1wtc, I think everyone can agree with that. The only winner there is Durst.
Agreed. I wish I could be excited about 1 WTC reaching this achievement but the fact that this is another step closer to that dumb crappy antenna getting erected has ruined it for me. I guess there's hope. The radome was originally supposed to be installed after the antenna structure was erected in the way the glass windows are installed after a steel floor is prepared. This means anything this summer could change the PA and Durst's mind to implement the radome again or another different material for the spire.

[RockMont]

Lost the Battle?
Regardless of whether we built here or not. The Battle was won on May 1, 2011.
The spire does not determine whether we win a battle. It's the fact that we rebuild. Although it will take some time, when towers 2 and 3 stand with One and Four. We will have a beautiful safe enviroment filled with architecture beauty.
No site is perfect,

Yeah the battle was won, when the vermin, bin laden was summarily, and appropriately executed, and sprayed with bullets, and other good ammo, and sent to where he belongs. Sorry Michael Moore, you don't give a fair trial to a mass murderer, in the midst of a war. If not for fighting back, it no doubt would have been another holocaust. Then what would all the naysayers blame it on?

[CarlosV]

Almost there!!

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[NYguy]

A bit older, but I like the view...

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[pnapp1]

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[Hypothalamus]

:worship: I can't wait until this is topped out! :worship:

[Chapelo]

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^^ I love Vin's shots from this angle; really captures how massive this tower is.

[TechTalkGuy]

If the Goldman Sachs Tower were 200 feet taller, then this would really compliment One World Trade Center as the skyline redefines itself.

[gramsjdg]

Yeah the battle was won, when the vermin, bin laden was summarily, and appropriately executed, and sprayed with bullets, and other good ammo, and sent to where he belongs. Sorry Michael Moore, you don't give a fair trial to a mass murderer, in the midst of a war. If not for fighting back, it no doubt would have been another holocaust. Then what would all the naysayers blame it on?

Please people, this is a forum about the construction of 1WTC, not a political forum.

[NYguy]

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[CarlosV]

A perfect morning on the last day in May.......67 degrees

9 visible columns

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[Noll]

http://360.io/9rF4tm - Panorama view from the 91st floor.

http://360.io/CMcnAn - Panorama view from the 27th floor.

[Charlie Potts]

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Beautiful shot! I need some sort of guide to tell me the names of these buildings. For example what is the strange modern temple-ish looking building just to the left of the American International building? And is that yellow and black building a residential tower?

[hunser]

^^ The building adjacent to AIG is 60 Wall Street. And the black- yellow dotted building is the William Beaver House.

[Dense_Electric]

Ooh, tiny columns. What are those, about ten feet? This must be in preparation for the pre-fab nodes to be installed on the corners.

[dar124]

That has to be the smallest piece of steel ever put.

It might look small, but that beam is 20 feet high.



FYI, from yesterday.

[castellammare]

Hi everybody, I just wanted to introduce myself to the forum real quick - I've been following this thread for over a year now, but just recently decided to make an account. I have a pretty good view of the WTC outside my building, and since there are some people on here who might not live in the city, I thought I'd contribute to the thread in some way by sharing my view outside my building. Here's my own Carlos-style photo:

http://i.imgur.com/5Xuwj.jpg

Also, I'm an EMT with the New York City Fire Department, and a friend took this photo last year during the Towers of Light tribute that I thought you might like. I apologize if it doesn't really belong here, but I think you guys might get a kick out of it - I really like the way this photo turned out:

http://i.imgur.com/mLXBv.jpg

Thanks for reading.

[uaarkson]

:previous: Welcome, and thanks for the contributions.

[yankeesfan1000]

:previous: Welcome, and thanks for the contributions.

+1

Always nice to have someone new who's able to contribute photos!

[NewYorkDominates]

^ Amazing bro.Love the view.Welcome here and greatly appreciate the pics.

[NYC GUY]

So why do these columns look so different?

[Roadcruiser1]

So why do these columns look so different?

They are shorter than the other mechanical floor columns by 3'-5'. That is why it looks shorter.

[MrSlippery519]

They are shorter than the other mechanical floor columns by 3'-5'. That is why it looks shorter.

They are also not sitting directly over the other perimeter steel, take a close look they are offset and seem to be sitting inwards a few feet. These are totally different....waiting for someone like Otie to explain better

[NYC GUY]

^^^
I noticed that too.

[CarlosV]

...Here's my own Carlos-style photo:

Welcome and thank you for the shout out!!!!

let's see more pics from you!! :hi:

NOW this is fast work!!!!! all these work done basically today!!!! and glass panels up another floor!

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[Dense_Electric]

These beams wouldn't be part of that pseudo-hat truss, would they?

[Zapatan]

I think so, the corners are not much more than 10 feet away from touching.

[sw5710]

Floor 104 or the splices are 1,317'

[CarlosV]

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from 243 miles...taken 3/11/12 NASA
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[QUEENSNYMAN]

From: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgFeCEdZHvI&feature=youtu.be

Hope everyone enjoys!

[eseninobrandon]

From: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgFeCEdZHvI&feature=youtu.be

Hope everyone enjoys!

awwww yeah imagine how itll look like when finished :banana:

[NYguy]

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[QUEENSNYMAN]

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gUpw8aJOgs&feature=youtu.be

[tiarae]

The new columns are for 103 mezzanine.

[sw5710]

Otie has a great diagram showing the top floors and the latest columns and why they are not the outer columns over on SSC. It would be cool to get that posted here.:yes:

[Otie]

Ok, the columns that went up today are non-structural and will support the louvered walls that span from the 103rd floor slab to just below the parapet, these walls serve for ventilation and will create an air plenum between these walls and the exterior facade.

Here louvered walls are in blue:
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In case anyone didn't notice, this plenum will be exactly the same as the ones located between floors 91-93M and 3-6M.

[JACKinBeantown]

Welcome castellammare and thanks for the nice photos. Thanks also for saving people's lives.

Carlos, you're really making a name for yourself here, buddy!

[TouchTheSky13]

Does anyone think that it is rather odd and potentially problematic that there is going to be a hydrogen fuel cell plant located within 1 WTC's base? Hydrogen is an extremely flammable substance and is not easy to control. What if an explosion were to occur? Good move? Bad move?

Also, Otie, do you know what color that the new spire/antenna will be? I hope to God it's not the rust color that it was in the rendering Durst released...

[uaarkson]

:previous: This tower costs billions of dollars to ensure things like that will not happen.

[TouchTheSky13]

:previous: This tower costs billions of dollars to ensure things like that will not happen.

I only got two words - shit happens.

If they were going to put fuel cells somewhere in the building, I would think that the base would be the last place you'd want to put them. I could be mistaken, but I would think that an explosion in the base could cause massive damage to not only the base, but to the entire structure. I don't want to go so far as to say that such an explosion would compromise the building as a whole, but to me, that's just assonine. Why would you tamper with things that dangerous at the base of the most expensive building ever constructed?

[chris123678]

So If these aren't structual columns, then 1 wtc is still on floor 103.
And we are below 400 meters?

[RockMont]

I only got two words - shit happens.

If they were going to put fuel cells somewhere in the building, I would think that the base would be the last place you'd want to put them. I could be mistaken, but I would think that an explosion in the base could cause massive damage to not only the base, but to the entire structure. I don't want to go so far as to say that such an explosion would compromise the building as a whole, but to me, that's just assonine. Why would you tamper with things that dangerous at the base of the most expensive building ever constructed?

How about "Shit Happened"?

It's not going to happen again!

[sw5710]

So If these aren't structual columns, then 1 wtc is still on floor 103.
And we are below 400 meters?

We were at 1,297' to the splices then these columns went up. Even though these columns are not structual they still extend up a floor.

[TouchTheSky13]

How about "Shit Happened"?

It's not going to happen again!

I certainly hope not...But I'm not talking about a terrorist attack. I'm talking about the worst case scenario. In the documentary, The Rising, the chief securities engineer for 1 WTC said that the base is designed to resist car bombs from West St. yada yada yada. It sounds kind of counter-intuitive to pack a 200ft x 200ft safety feature with tons of explosive material...That's just what I think...

[Roadcruiser1]

I certainly hope not...But I'm not talking about a terrorist attack. I'm talking about the worst case scenario. In the documentary, The Rising, the chief securities engineer for 1 WTC said that the base is designed to resist car bombs from West St. yada yada yada. It sounds kind of counter-intuitive to pack a 200ft x 200ft safety feature with tons of explosive material...That's just what I think...

Who told you that? That is a total lie. One World Trade Center is completely powered, heated, and cooled by steam, and steam is made by something like coal, or another fuel source burning. Obliviously hydrogen will not be used. The original World Trade Center if I am correct was powered by oil. They didn't use natural gas because of flammability.

[Duck From NY]

How about "Shit Happened"?

It's not going to happen again!

I think he's asking a fair question. I understand the desire for more "green" architecture. I even understand it as a PR move. Nonetheless, for such a costly building (as well as a terrorist target) to have massive hydrogen fuel cells (as claimed)... well, it raises an eyebrow; so his concern is legitimate IMO. Not saying they haven't got it covered, but I'd like to hear the engineers working on the project explain how they are protecting the cells from exposure or error.

[1Boston]

Durst didn't ruin the the design.
Most of the changes they did, with the exception of the spire was for the better of the building.

I was only talking about the spire, which completely affects the rest of the tower. I agree that the tower is beautiful, just not the antenna that will make the beauty of this building harder to see.

[Otie]

There is indeed a fuel cell co-generation plant inside this tower, it is located on the mechanical space above the lobby and will generate 1.2MW using natural gas.

[mrnyc]

hello everyone --

winding down, but its time once again for the monthly first of the month progress check:

what floor are we on as of today?

is it 103? between 103-4?

as always, thanks if you know or would like to guess!

[QUEENSNYMAN]

FROM: NYMAN2010

Yesterday from "The Rock"

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[alan88]

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1
Who told you that? That is a total lie. One World Trade Center is completely powered, heated, and cooled by steam, and steam is made by something like coal, or another fuel source burning. Obliviously hydrogen will not be used. The original World Trade Center if I am correct was powered by oil. They didn't use natural gas because of flammability.

What are you talking about? The original WTC had electric drive chillers, 7 - 7000 ton + 2 - 2500 ton + 5 2000 ton units added after 1993. The power came from Con Ed grid and it could have been generated by oil, gas, nuclear or hydro. The end user doesn't know. It used steam for heating in winter and the only oil was for emergency generators.

The new tower has electric driven DX cooling units on each tenant floor, steam for heating, and natural gas for fuel cell and tenant cafeteria's

alan

[NYguy]

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[castellammare]

Hi everybody, and thanks for the great welcome yesterday. Here's a photo of the WTC that I just took (not too much of a change from yesterday though):

http://i.imgur.com/8Fqvt.jpg

While I was going through some old photos, I found this one I took of the WTC sometime last year:

http://i.imgur.com/PJwWa.jpg

Have a good day everyone.

[PZelda]

That pic from last year - awwwww! 1 WTC was so little then... :D

[CarlosV]

from 7:28 am june 1, 2012, taken by Anthony who works at the site.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7212/7315536608_45db98d453_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/7315536608/)
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Carlos' Cam

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[O-tacular]

I'm attempting to stay positive and believe that cooler heads will prevail and that Childs finds a suitable replacement for the radome, but I'm not sure. This building seems to be one big compromise.

[QUEENSNYMAN]

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwYC6RHTHyA&feature=youtu.be

Have a great weekend everybody!!!

[hunser]

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx

*The following information was last updated on June 1, 2012.

Tower steel is now above floor 103. It is expected to top out at 1368 feet) in late spring/early summer 2012.
Facade installation is now above floor 75
Concrete is now being installed above floor 93
Installation of the 408-foot-tall telecommunications spire in summer 2012 (bringing total tower height to 1776 feet)
Spray-on fireproofing underway
Elevator shaft fit-out
Multiple cranes on site for steel and concrete installation
Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
"Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
Utility installation and tie-ins
Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

[sw5710]

Great shots Carlos!
We are on floor 104 not 103M "Is that correct"
As for the spire/antenna. It is the CTBUH that will dictate the final height in the end. The same way they do on every building standing today. I am going to wait and see if some other outer cladding might be used since we are still quite a while before construction is ready for it to be mounted.

[NYguy]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/obama_to_visit_one_world_trade_center_chhfvr5PoHhzARmVUgbv4H

Obama to visit One World Trade Center construction

June 1, 2012


President Obama will visit the former site of the World Trade Center this month to view the progress of
One World Trade Center, the growing skyscraper that became the tallest building in New York City this spring.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest briefed reporters Friday about the visit, which is scheduled for Flag Day, June 14,
according to FOX News Channel. Earnest told reporters Obama's visit will be a preview of the skyscraper's
"topping-out ceremony," a traditional event held to commemorate the completion of a building's structure.




Patrick Rasenberg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prasenberg/7314732258/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

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[jd3189]

:previous: Well, look at that. Maybe Obama will get news of the greedy move done by Durst and the PA to 1 WTC's spire and make sure the rest of the nation knows that the "rebirth" project is being exploited by dumb developers. Just something I would like happen.:notacrook:

[hunser]

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WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prasenberg/7314763682/) von Patrick Rasenberg (http://www.flickr.com/people/prasenberg/) auf Flickr


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WTC 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prasenberg/7314754542/) von Patrick Rasenberg (http://www.flickr.com/people/prasenberg/) auf Flickr

[YankeesfaninUT]

I sent numerous emails out a few weeks ago about the spire. I received one back from Jordan Barowitz of the Durst Organization. The reason for removing the radome was because it is logistically impossible to maintain it that far in the sky. Free climbers would have to scale the spire and attach the cables to a ring at the top. Then they would have to hoist a 40’ x 10’, 2000lbs piece of fiberglass up to the top and install it. Both of these violate New York City Department of Buildings hoisting regulations and is also a threat to public safety. They discussed this back in January. The architects had time to come up with a redesign but chose not to. So no one should be angry at Durst for this. They gave them the chance to come up with a redesign. After the new renderings came out I think it really wont be that bad. All of the buildings are very beautiful. This will be a very beautiful complex when it's done.

[donoman100]

How are the spires on all of the other buildings in Manhattan maintained?

[applejacks]

While it was nice of him to reply, I call BS on the explanation.

I sent numerous emails out a few weeks ago about the spire. I received one back from Jordan Barowitz of the Durst Organization. The reason for removing the radome was because it is logistically impossible to maintain it that far in the sky. Free climbers would have to scale the spire and attach the cables to a ring at the top. Then they would have to hoist a 40’ x 10’, 2000lbs piece of fiberglass up to the top and install it. Both of these violate New York City Department of Buildings hoisting regulations and is also a threat to public safety. They discussed this back in January. The architects had time to come up with a redesign but chose not to. So no one should be angry at Durst for this. They gave them the chance to come up with a redesign. After the new renderings came out I think it really wont be that bad. All of the buildings are very beautiful. This will be a very beautiful complex when it's done.

[jd3189]

I sent numerous emails out a few weeks ago about the spire. I received one back from Jordan Barowitz of the Durst Organization. The reason for removing the radome was because it is logistically impossible to maintain it that far in the sky. Free climbers would have to scale the spire and attach the cables to a ring at the top. Then they would have to hoist a 40’ x 10’, 2000lbs piece of fiberglass up to the top and install it. Both of these violate New York City Department of Buildings hoisting regulations and is also a threat to public safety. They discussed this back in January. The architects had time to come up with a redesign but chose not to. So no one should be angry at Durst for this. They gave them the chance to come up with a redesign. After the new renderings came out I think it really wont be that bad. All of the buildings are very beautiful. This will be a very beautiful complex when it's done.

They just now realized this? Now I can't trust anyone with 1 WTC. Silverstein should have just taken control of the whole site if this was going to be the type of bullcrap we were going to face.

[natiboy]

Don't they just have to put the radome up once. Why would free climbers have to climb the spire on a regular basis to replace 40x10 ft. sections?

[pnapp1]

Today: WTC Progress Facebook:

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[NYC GUY]

They just now realized this? Now I can't trust anyone with 1 WTC. Silverstein should have just taken control of the whole site if this was going to be the type of bullcrap we were going to face.

That's what I said! When I heard they changed the spire I was thinking so this building has been designed since 2006 and just now they are realizing that it can't be maintained! Since President Obama's coming if David Child's is smart he will be there and meet with the president and discuss the spire design change.

[Duck From NY]

:previous: Well, look at that. Maybe Obama will get news of the greedy move done by Durst and the PA to 1 WTC's spire and make sure the rest of the nation knows that the "rebirth" project is being exploited by dumb developers. Just something I would like happen.:notacrook:

Has the WTC received federal funds? If so, does the president have the legal right to do anything more than make a personal request?

[jd3189]

Has the WTC received federal funds? If so, does the president have the legal right to do anything more than make a personal request?

The PA, although it's more private in practice, is still a public agency between NY and NJ and it receives funds from tolls around the tri-state area. If Obama makes a speech that will bring more awareness of the spire fiasco in 1 WTC, there may be a good chance that Durst will rethink on their decision.

[Duck From NY]

The PA, although it's more private in practice, is still a public agency between NY and NJ and it receives funds from tolls around the tri-state area. If Obama makes a speech that will bring more awareness of the spire fiasco in 1 WTC, there may be a good chance that Durst will rethink on their decision.

Eh, unless the Feds have some say in this, it would sound like an abuse of power. I think a personal call might be more effective anyway. Besides, the guy is running for reelection, the last thing he needs (and I'm not saying this as a supporter) is to make a speech about this just to have the PA or Durst ignore him.

[chris123678]

So are those tiny winy columns part of the structure?
When will the real perimeter steel be placed in.