NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[CoolCzech]

The only thing marring my enjoyment of watching 1 WTC go up is that 2 and 3 WTC's are still not a firm "go." :(

[Innsertnamehere]

somehow i doubt that 3wtc will stop construction.. i think it will find a tenant before it finishes the retail levels. i don't know about 2wtc though, that might have to wait a bit longer.

[jthornton17]

somehow i doubt that 3wtc will stop construction.. i think it will find a tenant before it finishes the retail levels. i don't know about 2wtc though, that might have to wait a bit longer.

Hi, I've noticed that several people have said that wtc 3 is more a sure thing than wtc 2. Does anyone know why this is the case?

[Big Towers]

It's because of the retail space, just as Innsertnamehere says.

Tower 2 has retail space, but not as much as the other towers. (Don't forget, Tower 1 has no retail space at all).

Not to mention the Transportation Hub's mega mall. Competition drives Tower 2's retail down into a more "office type" skyscraper.

[hunser]

Chris 1971 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chris1971/)
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[sw5710]

The steel nodes and steel construction are for floors 58,59 and the start of future floor 60. The top of the Steel is now 728'10''

[QuarterMileSidewalk]

Now that is an awesome photo.

[STR]

It's because of the retail space, just as Innsertnamehere says.

Tower 2 has retail space, but not as much as the other towers. (Don't forget, Tower 1 has no retail space at all).

That is incorrect. Tower 2 will have more above-grade retail than any other building in the complex. It will, in fact, have almost 1/4 of the entire retail space in the whole WTC.

Tower 2: 103,190sqft on 4 levels
Tower 3: 65,900 on 3 levels
Tower 4: 78,650 on 4 levels
Concourse: 212,179 on 2 levels
Total:459,919 sqft
SOURCE (http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/retail-space.html)

The real reason why Tower 3 has a greater chance of building to the top without stopping is because the Port Authority and the City of New York have pledge to pay for almost 1/2 of the above ground costs if Silverstein can lease 400,000 sqft of the building's 2.4M sqft of office space. Tower 2 will have to be funded entirely by Silverstein, like any other private development.

The Port Authority is financing all work on site up to street level. They are reimbursing Silverstein Properties for the construction work up to now, and will do so until the buildings reach grade at the end of this year, early next year.

[jthornton17]

That is incorrect. Tower 2 will have more above-grade retail than any other building in the complex. It will, in fact, have almost 1/4 of the entire retail space in the whole WTC.

Tower 2: 103,190sqft on 4 levels
Tower 3: 65,900 on 3 levels
Tower 4: 78,650 on 4 levels
Concourse: 212,179 on 2 levels
Total:459,919 sqft
SOURCE (http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/retail-space.html)

The real reason why Tower 3 has a greater chance of building to the top without stopping is because the Port Authority and the City of New York have pledge to pay for almost 1/2 of the above ground costs if Silverstein can lease 400,000 sqft of the building's 2.4M sqft of office space. Tower 2 will have to be funded entirely by Silverstein, like any other private development.

The Port Authority is financing all work on site up to street level. They are reimbursing Silverstein Properties for the construction work up to now, and will do so until the buildings reach grade at the end of this year, early next year.

Thanks STR. So it's a very good chance we see wtc 1,3, and 4 but never a wtc 2 built. Or not built like the plans for it. I wonder if you could do a picture of how this might look, without a wtc 2 in the picture?

[aquablue]

It would be massive disgusting shame for NY and the US if the WTC was never rebuilt fully as planned. That's all I'll say about that. It would be a symbol of national failure in the eyes of the world.

I'll just say that without tower 2, the complex looks very incomplete. Tower 1 really needs a buddy. Tower 3 is a very unassuming tower and doesn't impose its weight. The complex needs the bold sharp lines of tower 2's crown to stand out against the quiet boxy tops of 1, 3, 4. I really think tower 2 is what 'makes' the whole complex, it is the glue.

[Don098]

Thanks STR. So it's a very good chance we see wtc 1,3, and 4 but never a wtc 2 built. Or not built like the plans for it. I wonder if you could do a picture of how this might look, without a wtc 2 in the picture?

How did you get that WTC2 will never get built out of STR's post? He didn't say anything even remotely close to it. What he said is exactly what I told you via personal message, that all buildings will be built to street level, and that tower 3 would likely keep going.

NYGuy just posted this video in the 30 Park Place thread, and after reading this last conversation, I think it needs to be posted here as well.


http://therealdeal.com/newyork/articles/37285?utm_campaign=Feed%3A+trdnews+%28The+Real+Deal+-+New+York+Real+Estate+News%29&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner
The return of skyscraping starchitecture?

March 18, 2011




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[Don098]

Zen, STR, or NYGuy...I think this was discussed a long time ago in passing, but it hasn't been revisited in some time. Are there any concrete plans for 1WTC's nighttime lighting scheme? Since most of the top 200 feet or so are going to be mechanical space without interior floor lighting to shine through, may we see a scheme that somewhat resembles that of the Empire State Building?

[HardBall]

It would be massive disgusting shame for NY and the US if the WTC was never rebuilt fully as planned. That's all I'll say about that. It would be a symbol of national failure in the eyes of the world.

I'll just say that without tower 2, the complex looks very incomplete. Tower 1 really needs a buddy. Tower 3 is a very unassuming tower and doesn't impose its weight. The complex needs the bold sharp lines of tower 2's crown to stand out against the quiet boxy tops of 1, 3, 4. I really think tower 2 is what 'makes' the whole complex, it is the glue.

Wow, so WTC2 is not going to be built for the foreseeable future? That's terrible news, it's been almost 10 years in waiting and now we find out this news?

[Obey]

^^^ Its not news...

[STR]

Tower 2 will be built for the sole reason that there are no other buildings in the city that have the zoning rights to be as big as 2WTC (only 1WTC and 55 Water St. will be bigger and they're both largely occupied now). Large blocks of space are very rare in manhattan right now. There just might be a hiatus as the market heats up even further and banks ease up.

[Thaniel]

Long time reader first time poster to this thread. Have loved all the renderings you guys have made on here.

Amazing to see how tall it's getting just from last March when I started coming here and tracking the progress, the last few times I went to New York it was just a giant hole in the ground. I was more impressed more with the speedy rise of the Beekman Tower and the Goldman Sachs Building between my trips there than anything else. lol

Also, might be wrong thread to post this in, but does anyone know why they're not adding an observatory to 2WTC? It has that little triangle corner at the very tip top that appears to be nothing else, seems like a perfect spot for an observation deck!

[Roadcruiser1]

There is mechanical equipment up there. Sorry, but there is no room for any open air observation decks anywhere.

[Space Cowboy]

10 floors of glass up now according to discovery cam

[Zapatan]

People need to stop worrying about whether 2 & 3 will go up, they are going to be built, within the next decade and probably much sooner.

[xnyr]

Are there any concrete plans for 1WTC's nighttime lighting scheme?

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5260/5548105857_07a0221ed9.jpg


Mast lighting scheme from SOM site (http://www.som.com/content.cfm/one_world_trade_center)

"When lit at night, the mast’s surface will appear as a faceted surface, while a beacon at the top will send out a horizontal (?) light beam that can be seen from miles away."

Although the text specifies a horizontal beacon, I think the rendering (also from the SOM site) is more accurate.

Horizontal beacons were tried at the ESB in the '50s eliciting complaints from astronomers and the Audubon Society and had to be turned off during migratory seasons.

[STR]

Also, might be wrong thread to post this in, but does anyone know why they're not adding an observatory to 2WTC? It has that little triangle corner at the very tip top that appears to be nothing else, seems like a perfect spot for an observation deck!

Long story short:
* There's already an observation deck in Tower 1.
* The space in the top of 2WTC is already reserved for mechanical equipment and air intakes. It's not empty, I just never put anything in there in my renders because putting random blocks of equipment is tedious and boring.
* There isn't enough space for the elevators.

[bunky]

11th row of glass going up :yes:

[Thaniel]

There is mechanical equipment up there. Sorry, but there is no room for any open air observation decks anywhere.

No, look at the plans the very tip top corner of WTC2 is vacant unless all the pics and designs I've seen of it are wrong? It looks like they're going to just make the scaffolding go up and create an empty top corner not covered by windows or made into a floor etc. It would be perfect for a small observatory like the Empire State Building's 102nd floor.

[Roadcruiser1]

There really is equipment up there, and that section is used for mantainence. Look it up.

[NYCLuver]

March 22nd, 2010

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[Plokoon11]

Man that glass is something!

[Zensteeldude]

Steel porn, crane porn and curtain wall porn !

Keep up the great work NYCLuver !

[Jaystang5]

can i say that the glass is looking better then the renderings???:D:D I'm saying that because i really really find the renderings from STR very good, and the real thing even better...

[Big Towers]

Once the building is pressurized, the wavy reflection will be reduced.

Until that's done, the facade will look sort of ugly.

[Big Towers]

Does anyone know what happended to that Subway Restaurant Box that was raised up on the 1WTC last year? Is it still rising up with the tower, or is it remaining stationary on the first couple of floors.

[sw5710]

The top enclosed floor behind the blue netting is floor 57. The nodes start on floor 58 and continue to the start of floor 60.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

something to lighten the mood in here :)

from the Beekman Tower

http://img858.imageshack.us/img858/6798/5526173091e604cef72bb.jpg
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[patriotizzy]

The glass looks so slick! I like how shiny and reflective it is. Will no doubt take all the eyes away from 7WTC's facade, which was once (imo) better than any building in that area.

[Don098]

Once the building is pressurized, the wavy reflection will be reduced.

Wasn't this debunked a few months ago when the facade was first starting to go up?

[wwmiv]

The glass looks so slick! I like how shiny and reflective it is. Will no doubt take all the eyes away from 7WTC's facade, which was once (imo) better than any building in that area.

I prefer 7WTC's facade. I will reconsider that judgement when the building is finished and pressurized, though.

[Aleks]

i think he means compared to the 'professional' renders. obviously those are made to make everything look perfect.

STR's are the closets to reality. and he can control things as he goes along/change angles.

[hunser]

^^ if you ever consider going pro, i'll wire you some cash so i can be one of your sponsors. and once you get paid, i'll get my x% share. :D

AlexRatajczyk (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58564115@N04/)
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[NYYskyline]

Nice shot. Does anyone have a shot of WTC at night across the Hudson

[JACKinBeantown]

I like the reflections of Jersey City off the WFC buildings.

[sw5710]

Nice shot. What building was that taken from?

[hunser]

Nice shot. What building was that taken from?

from the AIG building. there's an observatory deck on the 66th floor but unfortunately it's not open for the public.

[sw5710]

from the AIG building. there's an observatory deck on the 66th floor but unfortunately it's not open for the public.

Thats a great location to see whats going on with the top floors of 1 WTC. The 7 WTC cam is going to soon loose its ability to clearly see construction of the steel now that 1 WTC has started going above its cam.

[Zensteeldude]

OMG, I forgot, STR, you are doing all the modeling on a laptop ! I guess there isn't room inside for a pair of video cars working in SLI mode !

I really hope they can make up all the weather delays we've had this winter, and now spring.

(The rain just changed back over to sleet and snow here in Somerset county, NJ and it's headed toward the city.)

[Winddu]

Hi,

I dont know if this should be on the memorial post or on here, so I will just post it. It's from the huffingtonpost.

WTC Steel Angel Statue To Honor Tuscon Shooting Victim Christina Taylor-Green Born On 9/11

NEW YORK -- A piece of World Trade Center steel is being molded into an angel in the memory of a girl who was born on Sept. 11, 2001, and died in a barrage of gunfire in the Tucson, Ariz., shooting rampage that injured Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

The 5 1/2-foot-long fragment of an I-beam was picked up from a hangar at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday and will be trucked to Arizona in time for an April 1 dedication ceremony. The Freedom's Steadfast Angel of Love statue will incorporate artifacts from the Sept. 11 attack on the Pentagon and the crash of United Airlines Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pa., sculptor Lei Hennessy-Owen said.

The angel honoring Christina-Taylor Green will stand 9 feet, 11 inches tall. The steel from the twin towers was donated by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the trade center site.

"We just wanted to do something to kind of help them heal, let them know that we're going to try to support them through their grief," said Hennessy-Owen, who has created angel sculptures at the three 9/11 crash sites and other locations across the country.

She said some family members of Sept. 11 victims plan to attend the dedication.

Christina-Taylor was 9 years old, the youngest victim of the January shooting, which left six people dead and 13 wounded. Her birth on the day of the worst terror attack in the nation's history and her death in another unspeakable act of violence made her an enduring face in the Tucson tragedy, generating a tremendous outpouring of sympathy in Arizona and around the country.

Donations to her memorial fund came in from 10 countries and 43 states in the first month after the shooting alone.

Her statue will be installed at James D. Kriegh Park in Oro Valley, Ariz., where she played Little League baseball, and dedicated at the opening day ceremonies of the Canyon del Oro Little League.

Christina-Taylor's relatives said she was "so proud" of being on the Pirates Little League team. They said it means a lot to them to know "there will be an angel in the outfield watching over" the Little League.

"That this angel would be made from the remnants of the 9/11 attacks makes this tribute especially touching," the family said in a prepared statement. "Christina-Taylor wanted to be a symbol of hope for those touched by our nation's great tragedy on 9/11, the day she was born."

Christina-Taylor was featured in a book called "Faces of Hope," which chronicled a baby from each state born on the day terrorists hijacked airplanes and used them to kill nearly 3,000 people.

She had told her parents she wanted to attend Penn State and have a career that involved helping those less fortunate. She was the only girl on her Little League team and played second base.

Her father is a scout for the Los Angeles Dodgers, and her grandfather Dallas Green is a former manager of the Philadelphia Phillies. Many of the tributes for her have contained a baseball or Sept. 11 theme.

A park and a Little League field in Tucson have been renamed in her honor. A T-shirt patch with her initials on a baseball and an American flag and twin towers in the background has become a popular purchase across the country. The Chicago White Sox and Arizona Diamondbacks played a charity game in Tucson that honored her.

At her funeral in January, family and friends gathered under an enormous American flag recovered from ground zero.

Hennessy-Owen said the statue honoring her will incorporate, besides World Trade Center steel, a 3 1/2-foot-long piece of steel from the Pentagon and a large rock from the Flight 93 crash site.

The sculptor said she will be part of a convoy taking the materials to Arizona.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/23/christina-taylor-green_n_839761.html

[STR]

OMG, I forgot, STR, you are doing all the modeling on a laptop ! I guess there isn't room inside for a pair of video cars working in SLI mode !

It's really not the vid card that's the issue. GPU is only used while manipulating the model, and I don't have the whole model visible when doing work, so that's far from my limit. Actual renders are done by the CPU. If the CPU was faster, had more cores, and I had more RAM I could afford to crank up the settings without taking an hour to render one still. I could also do other things like videos, which currently would take a day or two to process at a decent rez.

[WesleyTack]

hey,
I've been following this thread o so quietly for the past 3 to 4 years now and I've used this thread a lot as a reference for one of my levels (I'm a game developer / level designer / artist). I thought now that the level is done and the game is close to release (free for everyone who owns Steam/Half-Life²) I'd show some screenshots here. As you'll see I based it off of One World Trade Center the way it was about 8 to 10 months ago.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5476212113_6fb3ebe79b_b.jpg
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You can check out more images on my site if you are interested:
http://www.wesleytack.com/

And for those who play games and have Half-Life² installed, you can check out the free modification here and play it yourself! :)
http://www.moddb.com/mods/off-limits

On the real building, when are they going to start adding the cladding downward? Are they not doing this on purpose to avoid colliding with it as the ground crew keeps working around the tower?

[uaarkson]

Completely awesome, and I love HL2 mods.

[Zensteeldude]

:previous:You did take alot of license but that's some cool stuff !

It will probably be 6 months to a year before the base is fully clad.

(I wonder if it would be possible, under NYC building code, to build a tower that slopes out over the sidewalk like that. Be interesting if a tower like that ever got built.)

[Obey]

Really awesome. Great work!

[N830MH]

I agree. Its looks perfect!! I can't wait to be completions!! :)

[Onn]

Welcome to the forum WesleyTrack! You sir are a genius, that level looks beyond terrific! :D

[Thaniel]

There really is equipment up there, and that section is used for mantainence. Look it up.

Word. Thanks. I still think they shoulda put an observation deck of some sort on there. And I saw they're getting rid of the plan for the new "Windows on the World' for OneWTC! Noooooooooo!!!!! Why did they do that? Wasn't that one of the highest grossing restaurants in the world? The PBS American Experience of New York I think is where I heard that.

[Obey]

^^^ Why do people keep bringing that up?

[Père Goriot]

I was downtown today and offer this humble photo. I never expected it to be so dominating after following its progress over the past two years, it's spectacular.

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[Obey]

Is that glass dirty or is it the reflection of the WFC?

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Is that glass dirty or is it the reflection of the WFC?

WFC reflection

[newhannibal]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5270/5555889362_1b94e6f7fb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5555889362/)
One World Trade Center Progress (March 2011) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5555889362/) by newhannibal112 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanbudhu/), on Flickr

This is a sixteen shot panorama and it is very, very detailed.

[ENeuman900]

Hello, I would like need the blueprint of freedom tower each floor (structure) I do not need electrical, pipes plans but I would see the floor plans each floor. Reason I need those blue prints to figure out build out of Lego sets.

Is there any blueprint available on website? if not can you send me autocad, Photoshops file into my email under this website?

I am still trying figure out how build it with lego. Hope hear from your feedback or input about this blueprints. I know that it is confidential but is other way to see the blueprint with floor plans.

Eric

[patriotizzy]

Hello, I would like need the blueprint of freedom tower each floor (structure) I do not need electrical, pipes plans but I would see the floor plans each floor. Reason I need those blue prints to figure out build out of Lego sets.

Is there any blueprint available on website? if not can you send me autocad, Photoshops file into my email under this website?

I am still trying figure out how build it with lego. Hope hear from your feedback or input about this blueprints. I know that it is confidential but is other way to see the blueprint with floor plans.

Eric

Your grammar scares me :sly:

[ENeuman900]

I wonder how far does WTC Tower 2 goes?

Is there a name for that tower?

[Draegen]

Hello, I would like need the blueprint of freedom tower each floor (structure) I do not need electrical, pipes plans but I would see the floor plans each floor. Reason I need those blue prints to figure out build out of Lego sets.

Is there any blueprint available on website? if not can you send me autocad, Photoshops file into my email under this website?

I am still trying figure out how build it with lego. Hope hear from your feedback or input about this blueprints. I know that it is confidential but is other way to see the blueprint with floor plans.

EricYou don't need floor plans to build a Lego model, unless its one complex son bitch :whip:

[Kevin Scott Koepke]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5026/5559416900_7599874ed8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/5559416900/)
titans of new york. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/5559416900/) by ksk photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

[Zensteeldude]

Hello, I would like need the blueprint of freedom tower each floor (structure) I do not need electrical, pipes plans but I would see the floor plans each floor. Reason I need those blue prints to figure out build out of Lego sets.

Is there any blueprint available on website? if not can you send me autocad, Photoshops file into my email under this website?

I am still trying figure out how build it with lego. Hope hear from your feedback or input about this blueprints. I know that it is confidential but is other way to see the blueprint with floor plans.

Eric

You will not find them online. They don't just hand out the prints, you have to have a very good reason for having them. And there is no way that anyone that does have them, like me, is going to send them to you. (They do not give out electronic copies due to the fact that is too easy to distribute them in that form.)

[deja vu]

Hello, I would like need the blueprint of freedom tower each floor (structure) I do not need electrical, pipes plans but I would see the floor plans each floor. Reason I need those blue prints to figure out build out of Lego sets.

Is there any blueprint available on website? if not can you send me autocad, Photoshops file into my email under this website?

I am still trying figure out how build it with lego. Hope hear from your feedback or input about this blueprints. I know that it is confidential but is other way to see the blueprint with floor plans.

Eric

Good luck with that. Use your intuition, imagination, and the plethora of photographs and diagrams available on this thread and online. You will be hard pressed to get any legitimate bluprints from a development such as this. You have no credible reason to be in posession of them.

[STR]

You don't really need floor plans for this building. It's purely geometric, if you have a few points of data you can mathematically calculate everything else. The three needed points are:

Height of Parapet: 1,368 feet (we're treating the north entrance as -4 here, so ignore the 1,373 number in the thread title)
Height of deflection point: 185 feet (the transition point between base and tower, the widest point of the building)
Width: 205 feet

With those 3 points, you can find the slope of the corner.

Take two more points:
Typical floor height: 13'4"
Roof Elevation: 1334'8"

and you can figure out how much each floor narrows. That's 90% of the work with this building. You don't need even 1 floor plan unless you're going to mockup the core area. This isn't a math class, so I'm not going to go step by step teach you how to use those numbers, but I can assure you that you can get an very accurate Tower 1 with just those numbers.

[Romanwtc]

hey im Roman Reyna i know this is off topic but really quickly this the video i made of my drawing. please watch and let me know what y'all think. thanks
and yes this is also on the Urban art forum. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onhf-6umrLE

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

WTC Skyscraper Hit by Bond Woes

The troubled municipal-bond market could force the developer of a skyscraper at the World Trade Center to pay higher interest rates to investors in order to avoid a potential construction shutdown.

Developer Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the building site in lower Manhattan, are planning to sell $1.37 billion in tax-exempt bonds needed to continue work on the 1.8 million square-foot skyscraper known as Tower 4. After being plagued by years of delays from political infighting and financial disputes, the building has risen 19 stories and is on track for completion at the end of 2013.

The bond sale previously was planned for last December, but Silverstein Properties and the Port Authority scrapped the offering when municipal-bond rates spiked to unacceptably high levels. The market has stabilized since then, but rates remain high and many borrowers are continuing to postpone bond sales in hopes that rates will decline.

Up until this point, Silverstein has used insurance funds to pay for construction, although that money is dwindling.

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/MI-BI842_wtc_G_20110324232027.jpg
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/MI-BI842_wtc_G_20110324232027.jpg

[JACKinBeantown]

I wonder how far does WTC Tower 2 goes?

Is there a name for that tower?

Two World Trade Center.

[NYCLuver]

Back on topic please. :tup:

[Lecom]

Back on topic please. :tup:

Agreed. I just deleted a long string of posts. Big Towers came here with his website, posted a stolen STR image and got ripped to shreds by everyone for it. I guess the whole thing was pretty funny, but it's way off-topic and generally nasty. Big Towers has received an infraction for blatant forumer image theft and saying that he produced the work.

[The Grand Architect]

Glad to see things back on track on this thread. Thanks Lacom for deleting the useless and irrelevant posts.

Anyways, I have found a picture of the corner nodes on the 1 WTC being installed. Credit to Discovery for the image. What surprises me is the size of the node, compared to a regular node that are used below floors 60. Damn, that thing is huge!

http://i53.tinypic.com/ml3wj7.jpg

[The Grand Architect]

Hello, I would like need the blueprint of freedom tower each floor (structure) I do not need electrical, pipes plans but I would see the floor plans each floor. Reason I need those blue prints to figure out build out of Lego sets.

Is there any blueprint available on website? if not can you send me autocad, Photoshops file into my email under this website?

I am still trying figure out how build it with lego. Hope hear from your feedback or input about this blueprints. I know that it is confidential but is other way to see the blueprint with floor plans.

Eric

Only the lobby floorplan is available to the public via wtc.com

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3/25/11

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[NewNYCdowntown23]

Hello Skyscraperpage folks...

I live about 20 minutes away from the city and would like to start photographing the World Trade Center site on a regular basis. I would love to share these photographs on this forum each time I shoot.

Can you guys please recommend some higher vantage points where I could photograph from? I would like to get many angles. From the ground, it's pretty self explanatory, but from ABOVE I'm clueless as to where to get some good angles.

Recommendations are HIGHLY appreciated.

Thanks guys!!! :cheers:

[J.M.]

http://i53.tinypic.com/r2rjg5.jpg

Good perspective on where we are at the moment. Can't wait till this is tall enough to have people really looking at this.

[The Grand Architect]

Thanks J.M.!

UPDATE:

According to the Discovery camera image, the blue coccoon wrap is being raised a couple floors upward. It seems from the wtcprogress camera that the 1WTC is almost equal height with the 7WTC!

Discovery cam today:

http://evsdatacenter.netfirms.com/kpitv/ss2.jpg

[hunser]

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx

*The following information was last updated on March 25, 2011.

* Facade installation is now above floor 27
* Tower steel is now above floor 60
* Concrete is now being installed above floor 50
* Spray-on fireproofing underway
* Installation of elevator rails
* Multiple cranes on site for steel and concrete installation
* Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
* "Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
* Utility installation and tie-ins
* Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

[animatedmartian]

According to the Discovery camera image, the blue coccoon wrap is being raised a couple floors upward. It seems from the wtcprogress camera that the 1WTC is almost equal height with the 7WTC!

:banana:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2u6ckfs.jpg
Cropped from http://www.wirednewyork.com/webcam/
Something else to note is the stump to the left of 7WTC is 4WTC or atleast where it'll rise anyway. Then 3 and 4 will come and steal its view.

Can't wait until the numero uno dominates it all when it gets topped off. :cool:

[The Grand Architect]

animatedmartian, that "stump" next to the 7WTC is actually the 123 Washington Street apartment tower.

And yes, thanks for the webcam image. It appears I was somewhat correct. However, 7 WTC is still a tab taller than 1 WTC at the moment.

[Onn]

pag2525 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pag2525/5561782527/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5561782527_28e14e5167_b.jpg

[animatedmartian]

animatedmartian, that "stump" next to the 7WTC is actually the 123 Washington Street apartment tower.

And yes, thanks for the webcam image. It appears I was somewhat correct. However, 7 WTC is still a tab taller than 1 WTC at the moment.

I meant a little farther left, and a little farther lower.
http://i51.tinypic.com/21942sm.jpg
Although, at this point it all looks like a jumbled mess of pixels and I'm still just making an educated guess, and that's sort of for another thread anyway.

Nonetheless, I look forward to 1 WTC passing 7 WTC soon. :D

[The Grand Architect]

Ah, gotcha. Now I'm wrong and you're right. That is the 4 WTC :)

Wow, the 4WTC is getting pretty tall, don't you agree? I can't believe that the 4WTC is visible from THAT far already. A few months ago, I was just seeing vertical steel columns! Amazing.

[IntoTheLens827]

I meant a little farther left, and a little farther lower.
http://i51.tinypic.com/21942sm.jpg
Although, at this point it all looks like a jumbled mess of pixels and I'm still just making an educated guess, and that's sort of for another thread anyway.

Nonetheless, I look forward to 1 WTC passing 7 WTC soon. :D

This Is Very Exciting To See!!!! :) WOW!!!! They Are The Same Height Now. :tup:

[newhannibal]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5019/5563930441_24cd89c9a1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5563930441/)
Past, Present, and Future (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5563930441/) by newhannibal112 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanbudhu/), on Flickr

[uaarkson]

:previous: Good lord.

[Lecom]

^ :slob: :slob: :slob:

[Obey]

Incredible photo of IWTC, 7WTC, Beekman, and Goldman Sachs all of which have almost completely consumed Woolworth

[Lecom]

Which is a good thing IMO. Since the first time I saw Downtown skyline in '99, I always thought that Woolworth and Transportation Building to the south look lonely on the north fringe of Downtown. I always thought it would look better in a denser skyline context, similar to Trump Building and 70 Pine in the FiDi core. Sure Woolworth is a beauty, but it's had 98 years of spotlight, dominating everything around it. The original WTC towers framed the Woolworth in a nice way, and I think the views of the Woolworth juxtaposed against 1 and 2WTC will become a new classic New York photography angle.

[Lecom]

Hello Skyscraperpage folks...

I live about 20 minutes away from the city and would like to start photographing the World Trade Center site on a regular basis. I would love to share these photographs on this forum each time I shoot.

Can you guys please recommend some higher vantage points where I could photograph from? I would like to get many angles. From the ground, it's pretty self explanatory, but from ABOVE I'm clueless as to where to get some good angles.

Recommendations are HIGHLY appreciated.

Thanks guys!!! :cheers:

Hit up the hotels - WFC Marriott on West Street, Millenium Hilton on Church and W Hotel and Residences. Many of them have nice vantage points from above, and some of them are accessible to the general public ;)

[mrnyc]

whaaat? whaats wrong with that shot?!!!

http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad293/meesalikeu5/album%20four/60d56887.jpg
*iphone version*
:tup:

[Lawrence7]

I photoshopped a recent under-construction shot so that we can have a better idea of what the finished skyscraper will look like.

(EDIT: This is the original image. Credit: Lofter1)

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/110325_1WTC_4.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2mdoqac.jpg

[Traynor]

^Wonderful... but you keep forgetting to 'Shop-out the construction elevators on the East side. (And just to be picky... I would have put the sun-flare on the West side at the top, as that is where the ambient angle of the sun is coming from.)

12th row of glass going up today. With the snails pace of 58 and 59, the glaziers are going to surpass the steel at this rate. We'll have a hollow glass shell to the top, waiting on the the rest of the building to get built. LOL

:D

http://evsdatacenter.netfirms.com/kpitv/ss4.jpg
(from the Discovery webcams found here: http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/the-rising/ground-zero-pictures.html )

[Lecom]

I photoshopped a recent under-construction shot so that we can have a better idea of what the finished skyscraper will look like.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2mdoqac.jpg

Nice! Not to be a party pooper, but you have to cite the sources where you got the render and the original image from. Pasting links for both below the image would be enough.

[Lawrence7]

Lecom: I've made the required change to my original post. Thanks.

There is no render to credit, I drew and edited the image in photoshop, no rendering took place.

[Lecom]

Good stuff. Welcome to the forum!

[Obey]

Woah, thats incredible. Best render I've seen yet. Keep it up!

[The Grand Architect]

Nice rendering Lawrence! I like how you added the reflection and shine on the top of the tower.

Now for some of my own:

http://i56.tinypic.com/1222fqx.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/24myohl.jpg

[Lawrence7]

The Grand Architect - Really impressive, I thought the first render was a photo!

Here's another image I've been messing around with tonight just for fun, I'd love it if the lighting scheme was the same as this. :)

Original photo credit: Lofter1

http://i52.tinypic.com/2k0b5u.jpg

[Traynor]

^I was hoping for a nice tastefully done lighting scheme like that as well. The raised edge of the glass overlapping the stainless steel edges, is just begging for some soft LED lighting tucked under the edge and reflecting off the brushed steel.

[The Grand Architect]

The Grand Architect - Really impressive, I thought the first render was a photo!

Here's another image I've been messing around with tonight just for fun, I'd love it if the lighting scheme was the same as this. :)

Original photo credit: Lofter1

http://i52.tinypic.com/2k0b5u.jpg

Thanks, but I can't take all the credit. I must give credit to Google for the surrounding buildings and the sky.

By the way, Lawrence, that night rendering is great. Hopefully when the tower is finished, the actual shine from the antenna will be as bright as yours!

[JACKinBeantown]

Nice! And apparently the spire will have its own power source for the light to shine during the otherwise completely blacked out city.