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QUEENSNYMAN

Oct 23, 2011, 2:08 PM

FROM: NYMAN2010

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CarlosV

Oct 23, 2011, 3:23 PM

The North One

Oct 23, 2011, 3:34 PM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6233/6269935477_17b3d27f03_b.jpg

Holy sh*t, this thing is starting to look epic.

xnyr

Oct 23, 2011, 4:24 PM

They probably didn't remove the covering for the stop domestic violence day.

It's also breast cancer awareness month.

Not to demean these causes, but it seems a huge waste of energy to keep all these lights burning 24/7 when I imagine all the heavy construction (i.e. slab work, HVAC, electrical, etc) on the lower floors have been done already.

After all, we're constantly being urged to conserve energy.

Roadcruiser1

Oct 23, 2011, 4:25 PM

That was my picture. You have to give credit to my work before you use it, but it's okay for now.

hunser

Oct 23, 2011, 5:26 PM

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West Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6270747879/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr

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North Cove Nights (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8379824@N07/6271276320/) by beanhead4529 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8379824@N07/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6153/6263703507_67a8293b79_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6263703507/)
One World Trade Center (aka Freedom Tower) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6263703507/) von pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/) auf Flickr

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TBone7281

Oct 23, 2011, 5:45 PM

Not to demean these causes, but it seems a huge waste of energy to keep all these lights burning 24/7 when I imagine all the heavy construction (i.e. slab work, HVAC, electrical, etc) on the lower floors have been done already.

After all, we're constantly being urged to conserve energy.

I don't think they're on any longer than they usually are, regardless of color.

IanG

Oct 23, 2011, 7:39 PM

How many stories is Tower 1? SkyscraperCity lists 104, but this site lists 108. Which is it?

2-TOWERS

Oct 23, 2011, 8:33 PM

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2 more rows and you have your first cam shot of the cuetain wall.... i meant your own cam shot ....Carlos's Cam :cheers:::banana::banana:

2-TOWERS

Oct 23, 2011, 8:34 PM

will the spire illuminate only in white or will it change colors like BOFA

QUEENSNYMAN

Oct 23, 2011, 9:23 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5y7ET8ONM

QUEENSNYMAN

Oct 23, 2011, 9:33 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SppKJVGqOF4

CarlosV

Oct 23, 2011, 10:54 PM

another beautiful evening :)

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599GTO

Oct 24, 2011, 12:31 AM

will the spire illuminate only in white or will it change colors like BOFA

It will change colors.

Apparently the building's neighbor, the Durst-owned home to Conde Nast, 4 Times Square has also started a similar light show and eventually, Durst tells the Post, the tower's top will play off of a proposed spire at 1 World Trade Center, when ever that building reaches its height of 1,776 feet.

http://gothamist.com/2010/12/28/boa_tower_puts_on_a_light_show.php

Roadcruiser1

Oct 24, 2011, 12:44 AM

will the spire illuminate only in white or will it change colors like BOFA

It would be white. No color changes would take place with the spire. Inside the spire it might be lit though

How many stories is Tower 1? SkyscraperCity lists 104, but this site lists 108. Which is it?

Wikipedia and other sources give a floor count between 104-108 so it's not certain right now.

What Floor is tower 4 on? When does it begin to setback?

We really don't know when the setback would begin. All I know is 4 WTC is anywhere between 48-52 floors.

Roadcruiser1

Oct 24, 2011, 12:49 AM

Since people are asking the same questions about what the World Trade Center would look like at night again. I am going to post the rendering again. Credits go to WTC.com http://www.wtc.com/media/images/d/18_31_dbox_SOL_wtc-icons_revised_May-2011.jpg

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/18_31_dbox_SOL_wtc-icons_revised_May-2011.jpg

Otie

Oct 24, 2011, 12:57 AM

It will change colors.

http://gothamist.com/2010/12/28/boa_tower_puts_on_a_light_show.php

2013 Breast Cancer Awareness Month? :)

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6265/lightkg.jpg

scalziand

Oct 24, 2011, 1:07 AM

Wikipedia and other sources give a floor count between 104-108 so it's not certain right now.

It is certain, it just depends how you count them. 104/105 is the number of floors to the roof, and 108 includes the levels of the communication rings.

599GTO

Oct 24, 2011, 2:14 AM

It would be white. No color changes would take place with the spire. Inside the spire it might be lit though

Wikipedia and other sources give a floor count between 104-108 so it's not certain right now.

We really don't know when the setback would begin. All I know is 4 WTC is anywhere between 48-52 floors.

Yes, the physical structure will be white, but it will be lit with various colors.

CHAPINM1

Oct 24, 2011, 5:55 AM

Since I've posted there have been some AMAZING updates on this thread! I know ZenSteelDude is probably pretty proud by what's going on. Last time I was at the WTC which was September 22, things were looking great!

I think those pictures of the marble for the lobby, the elevator installation and the 64th floor skylobby are phenominal! Even though the lobby has the blast wall, I think it's going to be just as incredable as the original! The facade and the corner nodes are striking...

Just to confirm, the highest office floor with be the 90th floor with a floor-to-floor height of 14'4"?

kickser

Oct 24, 2011, 8:53 AM

^^ Sorry to inform you about a such tragic thing. But Zensteeldude passed this year, after a car accident.

NYguy

Oct 24, 2011, 11:58 AM

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islandxtreme26

Oct 24, 2011, 3:22 PM

Just found these forums and first time posting here. Already see a familiar face here (Gary Duanier) who I followed the construction of Citi Field with from 2006-2009. Lots of great stuff here and happy to find a new forum to occupy part of my day...

Was at the Memorial on 9/12/11 for the public opening and won't bore everyone with all my pictures; pretty sure you've all seen similar shots by now.

I will, however, share one image I captured that evening that I loved...The silhouette of 1 WTC reflected on the Pavilion facade and rising around the tridents.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2753/img90002.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/8/img90002.jpg/)

IanG

Oct 24, 2011, 6:19 PM

A diagram(s) from the New York Times...

http://i.picoodle.com/892ipi79.jpg

http://i.picoodle.com/447ipkes.jpg

manchester united

Oct 24, 2011, 7:07 PM

how many stories is tower 1? Skyscrapercity lists 104, but this site lists 108. Which is it?

84.....

CarlosV

Oct 24, 2011, 7:26 PM

Cocoon!!!!

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Don098

Oct 24, 2011, 8:06 PM

A diagram(s) from the New York Times...

http://i.picoodle.com/892ipi79.jpg

http://i.picoodle.com/447ipkes.jpg

Where's the article and the link for this? Please post that whenever you quote articles, pictures, or diagrams. Thanks

MadGnome

Oct 24, 2011, 8:23 PM

Where's the article and the link for this? Please post that whenever you quote articles, pictures, or diagrams. Thanks

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/nyregion/10-years-after-911-downtown-area-is-thriving.html

Otie

Oct 24, 2011, 8:25 PM

Where's the article and the link for this? Please post that whenever you quote articles, pictures, or diagrams. Thanks

Downtown’s Rebirth, 10 Years and $24 Billion Later (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/nyregion/10-years-after-911-downtown-area-is-thriving.html?_r=2)
Published September 11, 2011 by Charles V. Bagli (http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/b/charles_v_bagli/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

Web Cams Will Stream Live Views From the Top of the Statue of Liberty (http://mashable.com/2011/10/24/statue-of-liberty-web-cams/)

The Statue of Liberty will turn on four live streaming web cams Friday in celebration of her 125th birthday anniversary.

Four Torch Cams inside the flame will stream live views of Ellis Island, Governors Island, Liberty Island and the Freedom Tower, via World Webcams and will be available to the public at MyWorldWebcams.com.

The 151-foot-tall Statue of Liberty, officially titled Liberty Enlightening the World, was a gift from France to the United States on Oct. 28, 1886, to mark the centennial of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. The national monument is a symbol of freedom, democracy and the friendship formed between France and the U.S. during the American Revolution.

The live streams will bring a new experience of Liberty Island to the millions of visitors who travel to the national monument each year. For people who want to experience a view of the statue — rather than from the statue looking out — other live streams already provide that, including this one in Brooklyn.

Roadcruiser1

Oct 24, 2011, 8:33 PM

That is only the number of office floors. Don't give that number, because mechanical floors count too.

Don098

Oct 24, 2011, 8:42 PM

Oh, so that article was from a long time ago. I was so confused...I check the Times at least five times a day and hadn't seen anything so that makes more sense. Thanks

599GTO

Oct 24, 2011, 10:06 PM

What ever happened to that alleged vent that was Conde Nast wanted for their floors on the WTC?

NewYorkSkyline117

Oct 24, 2011, 10:34 PM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6237/6271057348_32cb4366f8_b.jpg

Empire State Building, and One World Trade Center 31 Miles Away-Morristown, NJ

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One WTC with Fall foliage

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Freedom Tower 31 Miles Away

Davidsam52

Oct 24, 2011, 11:01 PM

Davidsam52

Oct 24, 2011, 11:02 PM

Kevin Scott Koepke

Oct 25, 2011, 12:28 AM

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lower manhattan/statue of liberty; 10/23/2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6274612773/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

Do not repost, copy, or otherwise reproduce. Thank you:banana:

Yankee fan for life

Oct 25, 2011, 3:00 AM

1 wtc looks so much wider in pics then it does in person.

Don098

Oct 25, 2011, 4:49 AM

Hmmm that's actually really good to know! Only having seen this from afar through pictures, it's perceived gearth from particular angles has been my main disappointment. Do others agree?

OneMetropolis

Oct 25, 2011, 4:58 AM

One World Trade Center construction webcam:
http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/live-camera.html

Daily cam shots:

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/the-rising/ground-zero-pictures-04.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/the-rising/ground-zero-pictures.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/the-rising/ground-zero-pictures-02.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/the-rising/ground-zero-pictures-03.html

Archived cam shot
http://archives.earthcam.com/archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzrobotic1.jpg

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Related figures:

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Port Authority WTC construction schedule:
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/milestones.html

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Renderings:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/06/29/nyregion/tower_slide_1.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/06/29/nyregion/tower_slide_3.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/06/29/nyregion/tower_slide_2.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/06/29/nyregion/tower_slide_4.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/06/29/nyregion/tower_slide_5.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/06/29/nyregion/tower_slide_6.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66466735/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/85401223/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/104641641/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78009053/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117239882/original.jpg

cool

NYguy

Oct 25, 2011, 2:27 PM

Oh, so that article was from a long time ago. I was so confused...I check the Times at least five times a day and hadn't seen anything so that makes more sense. Thanks

It's from the 9/11 anniversary edition, I have a copy of it, there are probably a few more scans worth having.

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CarlosV

Oct 25, 2011, 6:08 PM

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hunser

Oct 25, 2011, 6:16 PM

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That's what I'm talking about! This tower will just dwarf everything in the area, there's absolutely no competition whatsoever.

Btw I noticed those new navigation buttons, they look really nice.

sterlippo1

Oct 25, 2011, 7:00 PM

how long after they finish the cocoon do they start the next jump?

TBone7281

Oct 25, 2011, 7:41 PM

That's what I'm talking about! This tower will just dwarf everything in the area, there's absolutely no competition whatsoever.

At least until the other towers are done. Then you will barely be able to see the tower itself (from some angles).

sterlippo1

Oct 25, 2011, 8:25 PM

At least until the other towers are done. Then you will barely be able to see the tower itself (from some angles).

this has been brought up before and i do get it but from some angles you weren't able to see the north tower of the old WTC when the south tower was blocking its view and vice versa, what's the difference?.......the thing is, what's the alternative? build only the two under construction now? when the whole thing is completed ,if you want to see a certain angle then make plans to view it from the place that offers that angle ;)

Ryan81

Oct 25, 2011, 8:31 PM

Wow! I just noticed that the official rendering reflects what appears to be the Statue of Liberty about Halfway up on the South Face. What great attention to detail!

TBone7281

Oct 25, 2011, 8:58 PM

this has been brought up before and i do get it but from some angles you weren't able to see the north tower of the old WTC when the south tower was blocking its view and vice versa, what's the difference?.......the thing is, what's the alternative? build only the two under construction now? when the whole thing is completed ,if you want to see a certain angle then make plans to view it from the place that offers that angle ;)

I'm not complaining. I think the site is going to be amazing. Just pointing out that Tower 1 won't be "dominating" for very long.

CHAPINM1

Oct 25, 2011, 10:57 PM

^^ Sorry to inform you about a such tragic thing. But Zensteeldude passed this year, after a car accident.

I know, I read all about it and was sad to see that. I just know that looking upon everything he would be impressed by what is transpiring... :yes:

gramsjdg

Oct 25, 2011, 11:34 PM

I'm not complaining. I think the site is going to be amazing. Just pointing out that Tower 1 won't be "dominating" for very long.

Personally, I want a dominating WTC-1; even if it means not building towers 2 and 3. The "cluster" concept isn't working for me. It detracts too much from the structural height of WTC-1. Maybe it will look better than I think when they are all done. My biggest beef is still the roof height of Tower 1. If the design had been scaled up to 2001 ft (symbolism), for instance, the roof/parapet would be 1542 ft and the obs deck at a much more respectable 1440 ft. (I would increase The width of the building only by a little, say, to ~215 ft)

Heck, that's partly why the ESB is so great. It dominates (for now).

In the case of WTC-1, domination could have made up for the lack of height.

2-TOWERS

Oct 25, 2011, 11:54 PM

Lets see an evening shot from the Carlos V cam:d

Otie

Oct 25, 2011, 11:58 PM

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Freedom Tower at Sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sajorphoto/6281386006/) by S@JOR (http://www.flickr.com/people/sajorphoto/), on Flickr

NYguy

Oct 26, 2011, 12:31 AM

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jd3189

Oct 26, 2011, 12:42 AM

It's from the 9/11 anniversary edition, I have a copy of it, there are probably a few more scans worth having.

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I can tell this will be a very dominating tower.

CarlosV

Oct 26, 2011, 2:36 AM

Lets see an evening shot from the Carlos V cam:d

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marshall

Oct 26, 2011, 2:46 AM

s.p.hansen

Oct 26, 2011, 3:39 AM

From PeacockDoom on reddit.com
http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/loi6q/my_dad_knows_an_engineer_working_on_one_world/

http://i.imgur.com/0Gagt.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/HeKl8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WwZSe.jpg

Roadcruiser1

Oct 26, 2011, 3:54 AM

The Twin Towers looked fine, and they were both large skyscrapers about the same height of one another. What would make the new WTC any different?

Inkoumori

Oct 26, 2011, 4:08 AM

Here is my take on some recent postings..First off, let me say that I do think 1WTC and the whole complex will be an inspiring sight when it's finished. I think it will be interesting and also the height of tower 1 will reclaim the skyline that the terrorists took away. That said, SORRY but I have to say that I am NOT a fan of 2WTC or 3WTC. They just look rather drab to me, like they could be any corporate office buildings from any big city. They just are sort of BLAH to me. I think they should let 1WTC stand alone, and let it's height stand out. If they chose not to build a twin of 1WTC, they shouldn't crowd the site. Instead, they should reduce the height of 2WTC and 3WTC, thereby letting 1WTC standout all the more. It's simple visual facts, the less you crowd a single building with "nearly tall buildings", the more the tallest will standout! I really like the design of 1WTC and am excited for it's completion. I just hope they decide to let it stand alone and not crowd it too closely. Or, build it taller so the scale would be better. That's my take!

Aesthetics aside, DT/Financial District is too important to the City of New York to play with when it comes to taxes and income for the city. It's a fine line, of course, but the city needs all the companies and workers it can get to simply come out even tax-wise to maintain its infrastructure. And that infrastructure is massive in the Financial district- two underwater vehicle tunnels (Holland, Bklyn Battery), three underwater mass transit tunnels (PATH, MTA 4,5,R and 2,3,A,C) and all the new projects underway untangling 11 subway lines to meet with commuter rail.

To view it simply as what looks best denies the realities on the ground where a very complex system of public transport exists. The city wants to capitalize on this system to enrich us all rather than let it crumble. That means workers and vibrancy, not a dead zone for the sake of post cards.

NYguy

Oct 26, 2011, 4:40 AM

Points all taken, but lets keep the convo on the construction here.

Dense_Electric

Oct 26, 2011, 5:11 AM

Is the core asymmetrical? The third to last image makes it look like the one diagonal side of the core is longer than the other.

sterlippo1

Oct 26, 2011, 10:15 AM

how long after they finish the cocoon do they start the next jump?

can anyone answer this? thank you in advance:)

Otie

Oct 26, 2011, 11:16 AM

Is the core asymmetrical? The third to last image makes it look like the one diagonal side of the core is longer than the other.

Yup, the outline of core's octagonal shape looks like this:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/228/coregc.jpg

Tall guy 31

Oct 26, 2011, 11:26 AM

The crane photos on the previous page are mind numbing. What a view to have everyday!!!! :cheers:

NYguy

Oct 26, 2011, 1:40 PM

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pnapp1

Oct 26, 2011, 1:49 PM

can anyone answer this? thank you in advance:)

Generally speaking it's about a week if the weather is good.

sterlippo1

Oct 26, 2011, 6:17 PM

Generally speaking it's about a week if the weather is good.
appreciated, thanks

CarlosV

Oct 26, 2011, 6:43 PM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/6284003980_6878785c39_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6284003980/)
DSC_3894 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6284003980/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

Jaystang5

Oct 26, 2011, 8:14 PM

Carlos i think its time for celebration, is that what i think it is? Cladding on the side of the building reaching the height of 7 WTC:banana::banana::banana:

Yankee fan for life

Oct 26, 2011, 10:13 PM

the decking of the floors should take place tomorrow.

NYguy

Oct 26, 2011, 10:52 PM

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CarlosV

Oct 26, 2011, 10:59 PM

Carlos i think its time for celebration, is that what i think it is? Cladding on the side of the building reaching the height of 7 WTC:banana::banana::banana:

:dj:

YES it is...

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DSC_3892 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6284142027/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

NYC-Graffhead91

Oct 26, 2011, 11:59 PM

Today (10/26/2011) by me:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6231/6284264721_b71ac4db9d_z.jpg

Otie

Oct 27, 2011, 12:39 AM

WTCProgress on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress)
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2-TOWERS

Oct 27, 2011, 3:27 AM

:dj:

YES it is...

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DSC_3892 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6284142027/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

we will celibrate once we see the glass above #7
Carlos V Cam has the see the first layer then its off to Shi to party

Phat Stanley

Oct 27, 2011, 3:35 AM

Carlos i think its time for celebration, is that what i think it is? Cladding on the side of the building reaching the height of 7 WTC:banana::banana::banana:

Sorry... hate to be a stickler, but it looks to me like it's either just at, or maybe still one floor below. Let's see it go one floor above Seven WTC from the perspective of Carlos' great vantage point shots... and then we can throw a frackin' party!

(Helluva first post for the newbie, eh? But then again, after reading nearly 900 pages of this thread over the last several weeks... oh yeah, I'm full of all kinds of opinions.)

NYC2ATX

Oct 27, 2011, 4:22 AM

NYGuy, that panorama from -ytf-, PURE ANIHILATION. I see that view every day twice a day, and that photo still made my jaw drop. :tup:

NYguy

Oct 27, 2011, 10:39 AM

NYGuy, that panorama from -ytf-, PURE ANIHILATION. I see that view every day twice a day, and that photo still made my jaw drop. :tup:

Worth the price of admission...;)

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Larger version of the pic above from WTCProgress (https://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/139186716/original.jpg

sterlippo1

Oct 27, 2011, 10:59 AM

NYGuy,the best panorama i've ever seen and I've taken the Staten Island ferry many times and that view never ceases to amaze me. Four skylines in one shot!

2-TOWERS

Oct 27, 2011, 1:53 PM

Yup, the outline of core's octagonal shape looks like this:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/228/coregc.jpg

interesting looking core...will it change some more as it gets higher

2-TOWERS

Oct 27, 2011, 1:54 PM

that last shot by the way is amazing.......the twilight one....

Varghedin

Oct 27, 2011, 2:38 PM

I agree - but what is up with the angle of the tower in that picture? It looks like it's bending over backwards like it's slowly melting O.o

sw5710

Oct 27, 2011, 3:09 PM

[QUOTE=Phat Stanley;5458163]Sorry... hate to be a stickler, but it looks to me like it's either just at, or maybe still one floor below. Let's see it go one floor above Seven WTC from the perspective of Carlos' great vantage point shots... and then we can throw a frackin' party!

Floor 61 of the WTC is about 1/2 floor higher then the top of 7 WTC but 7 WTC being in front of 1 WTC they look equal. Look far to the right on floor 61 there is the start of the corner.

NYguy

Oct 27, 2011, 4:16 PM

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Danielson27

Oct 27, 2011, 4:51 PM

construction has been slow lately. I thought they was going to be finishing up on floors 87-88 by the end of this month; but that does not look like it's going to happen

Otie

Oct 27, 2011, 7:59 PM

interesting looking core...will it change some more as it gets higher

Ooops, you either missed the little question mark or accidently reversed the words :D

The core changes several times, something like ~25, most of those modifications occur inside the podium.
It will keep changing, getting smaller the higher this tower goes, MEP* shafts and MER** areas will replace the space were H bank used to be and some of the existing ones will get relocated.

Notice that this graphic only displays the structural frame of the core, additional HVAC, MEP shafts & exhaust plenums aren't shown.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6151/6183795794_de2c18990a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6183795794/)
View from the top (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6183795794/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

*MEP= Mechanical Electrical Plumbing
**MER=Mechanical Equipment Room

dp197

Oct 27, 2011, 9:36 PM

Hi All

I was directed to this thread when NYguy posted one of my photo's a few days ago, So I would just like to thank him for that.

I will also be sticking around as I didn't know the forum existed!

Here is a few more of my photo's below -

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6118/6276938755_69b054153a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51495774@N07/6276938755/)
One World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51495774@N07/6276938755/) by DeanP197 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51495774@N07/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6239/6277442968_831e53309c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51495774@N07/6277442968/)
One World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51495774@N07/6277442968/) by DeanP197 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51495774@N07/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6046/6272638946_6e1c217fc5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51495774@N07/6272638946/)
Manhattan From The Sky (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51495774@N07/6272638946/) by DeanP197 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51495774@N07/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6100/6269420901_34f707c00c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51495774@N07/6269420901/)
Manhattan, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51495774@N07/6269420901/) by DeanP197 (http://www.flickr.com/people/51495774@N07/), on Flickr

Thanks for looking

Dean

ThisSideofSteinway

Oct 27, 2011, 10:04 PM

Lovely photos - thanks for contributing!

NYguy

Oct 27, 2011, 11:05 PM

Thanks for looking
Dean

Thank you sir. We look forward to more.

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NYguy

Oct 28, 2011, 6:59 AM

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gramsjdg

Oct 28, 2011, 3:33 PM

Is it correct that we're at 1070' ?

So basically only 300 ft to go... about 50-100 feet higher than the cranes at full extension?

CarlosV

Oct 28, 2011, 4:56 PM

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six months ago!!!

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Domamania

Oct 28, 2011, 6:13 PM

I was wondering if anybody has any diagram to show the current height of the Tower 1 WTC vs The finished Version of Tower 1 WTC. I havent seen one in a while, Thank You.

TBone7281

Oct 28, 2011, 7:12 PM

?

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I was wondering if anybody has any diagram to show the current height of the Tower 1 WTC vs The finished Version of Tower 1 WTC. I havent seen one in a while, Thank You.

From Oct. 10.

Nites

Oct 28, 2011, 7:33 PM

30 Park Place looks like it can still hang with OWTC at the moment without being overwhelmed.

hunser

Oct 28, 2011, 8:25 PM

Originally posted by Dino

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Davidsam52

Oct 28, 2011, 8:39 PM

Hey Carlos I have a suggestion for you: When the construction is complete, go back and compile all your photos and make a time lapse video---I'm sure the result will be very cool!:cool::tup:

animatedmartian

Oct 28, 2011, 9:02 PM

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2-TOWERS

Oct 28, 2011, 11:20 PM