NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[CarlosV]

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[QUEENSNYMAN]

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKd-wDUCmnU

[CarlosV]

Is it really that red out or did you use a filter?

I never doctored my photos...no filters ;) WYSIWUG (what you see is what you get)

NYC has been blessed with dropped dead gorgeous sunsents..pollution perhaps? the sky was red and on fire...lovely

Cheers

almost the same hue as this sunset 20 days or so ago...
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last week....

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[sw5710]

The cocoon is up to floor 92 at 1,181' and core steel is to floor 93 at 1,208'+splices.

[Fluffybagel]

:previous:
:banana: :banana:

[NewYorkSkyline117]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again, but I still can't believe this is only one of 5 buildings to ever reach a roof height for than 1,200 feet in American history

[MolsonExport]

As Daquan said on Wired NY, it looks like they are going to build this thing all the way to the top. ;)

[Noll]

WTC Progress on Twitter: (http://twitter.com/WTCProgress)

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[MadGnome]

Those are great Noll. Thanks for finding them.

[599GTO]

Omg! It's almost topped out!!!

[SoaringSkylines]

WTC Progress on Twitter: (http://twitter.com/WTCProgress)


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Oh my gawd. That is so tall in the atmosphere that you can almost see the spherical roundness of the earth! :slob:

[Tru Bert]

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/?cam=gzmp
Now were at 94!

[Tru Bert]

Sorry if pic didn't show up my computer won't let it come up.

[NewYorker2009]

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/?cam=gzmp
Now were at 94!

Wow you're right. Well there is no floor 94, the next floor after 93 is 100, which is the observation deck floor at 1,240'.

[dchan]

^ You need to host your pictures on a site like Flickr or Photobucket. SSP does not host any pictures other than the ones in a member's avatar.

[mat97]

yes new steel!!!:cheers::cheers::banana:

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[pnapp1]

Looking at the earthcam pic I think the outer columns are up to 93.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

OMG SOMEONE POST PICS! 1,240 feet?? Or is the empire state building now 2nd?!?

[NewYorkDominates]

Is it perimeter columns?

Also,news about Apple reviling the iPad 3 in March in New York is amazing news.Maybe one day a reviling from another Apple product might be hosted at 1WTC.I say this because Apple is the most known American brand,and hosting an event at 1WTC will make it even more amazing.

[sw5710]

Floor 92 = 1,181' 8'' ( the cocoon is up to here)
Floor 92M = 1,194, 8''
Floor 93 = 1,208' 4'' ( core columns are up to here)
Floor 93M = 1,223' 6'' ( ESB Floor #102 = 1,224''
Floor 100 = 1,240 ''

(We need pictures)

[NewYorkSkyline117]

Are these perimeter columns? Empire State Building has 27 feet left as the king of the East Coast

[CarlosV]

A forest of steel....

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it's a beautiful sight!!!

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[sw5710]

Thanks carlos! The steel columns are for 92M at 1,194' 8'' and floor 93 at 1,208' 4'' The 2 mounting points on those columns are about equally spaced apart in height above floor 92 at 1,181'. Floor 92 is the top row of beams behind the top of the cocoon. Look at the top picture you can see the 1st 3 large floors below floor 92. 89,90 and 91.

[Roadcruiser1]

And just when we were talking about tenants. This article just came hot off the press this morning.

A Whole Lotta Space Up for the Takin’ in 2013
By Daniel Edward Rosen

While leasing activity for much of New York City in the past few months has been more lackluster than blockbuster, a sizable chunk of available space –sizable in the, say, 6 million square foot range– is on the cusp of hitting the market, The Wall Street Journal reports.

New developments like 1 World Trade Center, 4 World Trade Center, and Edward Minskoff’s 51 Astor Place, are all slated to hit the market in 2013. The last time NYC had this much new space becoming available was in 1989, said Cassidy Turley’s Robert Sammons.

But this isn’t giving developers like Mr. Minskoff a roaring case of agita and insomnia.

“I sleep well at night,” Mr. Minskoff told The WSJ .

As WSJ (and Commercial Observer alumni Laura Kusisto) points out:

“… the bulge in the delivery pipeline comes at a time when demand in the New York office market is showing signs of flagging because of the contraction in the financial-services industry. Tenants with more than 5,000 square feet leased 5.9 million square feet in the fourth quarter, compared with 6 million square feet in the third quarter and 6.2 million square feet in the fourth quarter of 2010, according to Colliers International.

Also, financial-services firms are likely to pull back from more than 2 million square feet of space requirements in the next couple of years. That’s going to put pressure on owners to possibly cut rents to fill space in their towers.”

In short, there’s going to be a whole lotta inventory, but not too many takers, some fear. Unveiling new space at a painful time in the market, much like the struggling 11 Times Square building (which was built during the downturn and is now roughly 60 percent vacant), can spell restless nights for owners, Ms. Kusisto reports.

“Manhattan development tends to run in cycles. There was an enormous surge of new construction in the late 1980s as developers scrambled to take advantage of expiring tax breaks.

The result: Many speculative buildings hit the market just as the national economy went into the recession of the early 1990s. Many of the developers wound up losing their buildings to banks and some of the projects sat empty for years.”

Other possible concerns are tenants who are becoming more hip to smaller and more efficient office spaces. When the leases for these tenants come up, they are taking less, not more, space.

And if firms flock for the newer buildings, it will come at the expense of older ones.

“‘What you end up with is a segmented marketplace, where certain buildings are going to lease and other buildings might just languish with empty space,’” says Paul Glickman, of Jones Lang LaSalle, who is on the team leasing 51 Astor.”

But such concerns are not keeping Mr. Minskoff and World Trade Center developer Larry Silverstein up at night… at least, not in 2012.

http://www.observer.com/2012/02/a-whole-lotta-space-up-for-the-takin-in-2013-wsj-sez/

[NewYorkSkyline117]

So what floors are those?

[marshall]

It's absolutely thrilling to see that new steel! 1wtc is so close to being the tallest building in NYC!! :cool: Reclaiming the skyline baby!

[SoaringSkylines]

So let me get this straight--

We're on floor 93, but some even say when floor 93 is completed, we will be on floor 100?? How is that possible?

Does anyone know when we will be up to floor 100?

[marshall]

Oh my gawd. That is so tall in the atmosphere that you can almost see the spherical roundness of the earth! :slob:

This pic is amazing! Looks just like the view from the old north tower looking uptown! And if that is from the 79th floor, imagine what the view from the 100-102 floors will look like! :):cool:

[NewYorkSkyline117]

So let me get this straight--

We're on floor 93, but some even say when floor 93 is completed, we will be on floor 100?? How is that possible?

Does anyone know when we will be up to floor 100?

There's no 94-99 floors

[SoaringSkylines]

This pic is amazing! Looks just like the view from the old north tower looking uptown! And if that is from the 79th floor, imagine what the view from the 100-102 floors will look like! :):cool:

I KNOW! I am setting here going, "OH MY GOODNESS! This is incredible!!".. Well.............. Let's just say that I said more than that... Bahahaha!

I got to admit. I hated this tower at first... OKAY. I ADMIT. It's growing on me.

[SoaringSkylines]

There's no 94-99 floors

Ohhh? But aren't the mechanical "floors" in between those 94-99 floors?

[marshall]

So the office floors are from 20-90, and 90-94 is mechanical? And 100-102 observation, and 102-105 mechanical? I thought 90-100 were mechanical too

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[sask1982]

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Is this another 9/11 memorial? My apologies if it has already been explained.

[aquablue]

And just when we were talking about tenants. This article just came hot off the press this morning.

A Whole Lotta Space Up for the Takin’ in 2013
By Daniel Edward Rosen


http://www.observer.com/2012/02/a-whole-lotta-space-up-for-the-takin-in-2013-wsj-sez/

Ouch. That's a very negative article for the future of NY skyscrapers.

Who's going to fill the new towers? The economy is still in the tank it seems.:shrug: Looks like the future of NYC office buildings is weak.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

Ohhh? But aren't the mechanical "floors" in between those 94-99 floors?

well yea the mezanine floors

[SoaringSkylines]

Is this another 9/11 memorial? My apologies if it has already been explained.


Yes sir, it is. It's a brand new memorial they use opened up in Jersey City called, "Empty Sky."

Take a look:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/911_memorial_jersey_city.html

[Roadcruiser1]

Otie made this diagram. Credits to Otie.

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The only change is the 102nd floor is an observation deck.

[Otie]

^Thanks for re-posting, need to update it with the recent changes.


Guys, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but please keep the conversation in a mature way, save your expressive comments and use PM to conversate to a specific person. Please read the last few pages before posting questions that were already answered.

Floors 20-90 are offices
Floors 91-93M are mechanical
100-102 observation
103-104M mechanical
105 roof
106-109 communication platform ring
110 platform inside the spire

[NewYorkSkyline117]

I'm confused. How tall is it with this steel, 1,240 feet right?

[QUEENSNYMAN]

It's absolutely thrilling to see that new steel! 1wtc is so close to being the tallest building in NYC!! :cool: Reclaiming the skyline baby!

Amen to that :worship:

http://www.youtube.com/user/NYBOY75

[sw5710]

I'm confused. How tall is it with this steel, 1,240 feet right?

Now we have columns up to floor 93 or 1,208' 4'' Floor 100 is at 1,240'

[gramsjdg]

Otie made this diagram. Credits to Otie.

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The only change is the 102nd floor is an observation deck.

May not look like much, but there's still 160 ft to go ;)

[sw5710]

[QUOTE=CarlosV;5608731]A forest of steel....

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Look at this picture and the diagram and you can see the 3 large floors from 89,90,91 and the next 3 smaller floors from future floor 92 and the columns and there mounts for 92M and 93.

[10023]

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Obviously I'm in no position to complain, but aesthetically this thing really does need to be taller. It's just such a fat building...

[sw5710]

It will be taller 1792' Now it is 1216' to the splices.

[10023]

It will be taller 1792' Now it is 1200'

How high is the actual building structure though? THe spire doesn't really count.

[J_M_Tungsten]

^ lol, uh oh, here we go....

[Roadcruiser1]

How high is the actual building structure though? THe spire doesn't really count.

The height to roof is 1,368 feet. Most of the specifications matches the former North Tower of the old World Trade Center including the height.

[sw5710]

How high is the actual building structure though? THe spire doesn't really count.

It does count do to pilots! The Building will look solid to 1,368'

[sw5710]

^ lol, uh oh, here we go....

:haha:

[Davidsam52]

Obviously I'm in no position to complain, but aesthetically this thing really does need to be taller. It's just such a fat building...

Wow what a gorgeous shot with the new DCL ship in the foreground being welcomed to Manhattan!:tup::tup::tup:

[Roadcruiser1]

Found a nice old vs new photo online.

http://www.itechworldinfo.com/world-news/news-update/freedom-tower-1-world-trade-center-rebuild.html
http://www.itechworldinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/World-Trade-Center.jpg

This picture will settle the argument about the new building's width. The new One World Trade Center is essentially a modern sister of the old One World Trade Center. Even though their shape changed it is still extremely reminiscent of the old tower.

[SoaringSkylines]

Obviously I'm in no position to complain, but aesthetically this thing really does need to be taller. It's just such a fat building...

Agreed. I have to admit that it has made a SMALL change in the skyline, but not anything major.

[marshall]

Agreed. I have to admit that it has made a SMALL change in the skyline, but not anything major.


Give it a couple more months or so, when it's actually finished, it will look much taller and have a bigger, better impact than now. Visualize the finished tower reaching all the way to the tip of where those cranes are now. That's about where the roof will be. :cool:

[1Boston]

Found a nice old vs new photo online.

http://www.itechworldinfo.com/world-news/news-update/freedom-tower-1-world-trade-center-rebuild.html
http://www.itechworldinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/World-Trade-Center.jpg

This picture will settle the argument about the new building's width. The new One World Trade Center is essentially a modern sister of the old One World Trade Center. Even though their shape changed it is still extremely reminiscent of the old tower.

I agree this completely shows the similarities. They almost look the same when you look just at the roof of the new one compared to the old north tower.

[sbarn]

And just when we were talking about tenants. This article just came hot off the press this morning.

A Whole Lotta Space Up for the Takin’ in 2013
By Daniel Edward Rosen


http://www.observer.com/2012/02/a-wh...-2013-wsj-sez/

I don't see how that 13-story Minskoff Tower at Astor Place is going to blow the rental market. This news story seems to be pretty hyperbolic, the office market is not as dire as they proclaim.

[DrNest]

There's no 94-99 floors

Why is there no floors 94-99? From the rendering posted there doesn't even appear to be room for mechanical floors. Other than just to claim there are over 100 floors I see no reason for missing out 94-99. Can anybody explain the actual logic and reasoning for this please?

[Yankee fan for life]

Cant believe i have never ask this question before what is the purpose for the communication platform ring ?

[Dense_Electric]

Will the next perimeter jump take us up to 93, or can we expect to go up to 100?

[Roadcruiser1]

Why is there no floors 94-99? From the rendering posted there doesn't even appear to be room for mechanical floors. Other than just to claim there are over 100 floors I see no reason for missing out 94-99. Can anybody explain the actual logic and reasoning for this please?

An average mechanical floor is two office floors high so they put an M floor in between, because of this the M floor counts as a floor too. So it would be 92, 92M (93), 93 (94) 93M (95), 100 (96), 101 (97), 102 (98), 103 (99), 104 (100), and 110/Platform (101). This building if counted would have only 101 floors not 104, but it's still close enough.

Cant believe i have never ask this question before what is the purpose for the communication platform ring ?

For telecommunications, or the broadcasting of signals over long distances.

[Roadcruiser1]

Will the next perimeter jump take us up to 93, or can we expect to go up to 100?

Next Jump: 93 & 93M
Jump 2: 100 & 101
Jump 3: 102 & 103
Jump 4 (Final Jump): 104 (One World Trade Center is officially topped off.

[DrNest]

Thanks for the explanation. Still seems a little strange to me but what you've said has helped in my understanding.

[jd3189]

An average mechanical floor is two office floors high so they put an M floor in between, because of this the M floor counts as a floor too. So it would be 92, 92M (93), 93 (94) 93M (95), 100 (96), 101 (97), 102 (98), 103 (99), 104 (100), and 110/Platform (101). This building if counted would have only 101 floors not 104, but it's still close enough.


It may be close enough,but they didn't need to lie about it. Most people are going to think this building will have 104,105,108, or even 110 like the former Twins. I don't think it makes sense for them to count mechanical floors as 2 floors because they are really just one floor twice the height. I just don't see the logic in it. Seems that every tall building has to lie about some aspect to make a statement. Sorry if this rant bothers some people but this one of the few main problems I have with this building. It had a chance to succeed all the way and it failed in many respects.

[NewYorker2009]

Next Jump: 93 & 93M
Jump 2: 100 & 101
Jump 3: 102 & 103
Jump 4 (Final Jump): 104 (One World Trade Center is officially topped off.

We are at floor 93 as of right now so possibly the next jump will bring us to 100. The 105th floor at 1,334' 8" is considered the roof of the building and then there is the parapet that will bring it up to 1,368'. The 1,368' mark will be the topping off point. The 104th floor will be 1,313' 10".

[meh_cd]

Unbelievable. The last 4 pages have been people asking the same questions repeatedly and postulating the same arguments that we have talked about for a decade now. Read the thread, guys.

[SoaringSkylines]

By the looks of it, can someone give me a mere precise speculation date on when 1WTC will be "topped out" now seeing that we are at the next jump?

[meh_cd]

By the looks of it, can someone give me a mere precise speculation date on when 1WTC will be "topped out" now seeing that we are at the next jump?

Perhaps you could, I don't know, read the thread? It might be illuminating. No one knows with absolute certainty when the next jump will take place. Or when the topping out will take place. Countless people have estimated anywhere from April 2012 to early 2013. There is no way of knowing for sure unless you work on the project.

[Roadcruiser1]

We are at floor 93 as of right now so possibly the next jump will bring us to 100. The 105th floor at 1,334' 8" is considered the roof of the building and then there is the parapet that will bring it up to 1,368'. The 1,368' mark will be the topping off point. The 104th floor will be 1,313' 10".

I also counted the perimeter columns of 93 which hasn't been completed yet, and the next jump won't bring us to 100. The next jump would still be a mechanical floor because it's 2 floors a week, and mechanical floors are equal to 2 office floors.

[NewYorker2009]

I also counted the perimeter columns of 93 which hasn't been completed yet, and the next jump won't bring us to 100. The next jump would still be a mechanical floor because it's 2 floors a week, and mechanical floors are equal to 2 office floors.

The column splices are at 1,216' as of right now so the next set of columns are likely over 30' so it will probably hit 1,240'. The last set of columns consisted of 91, 91M, and 92. These columns now are for 92M and 93. Then you have 93M and 100.

[DrNest]

Unbelievable. The last 4 pages have been people asking the same questions repeatedly and postulating the same arguments that we have talked about for a decade now. Read the thread, guys.

I've just re-read the past five pages. Not once does anybody explain why there are no floors 94-99. Nor is it explained why the numbering jumps from 93 to 100. So my question was a new and legitimate one to ponder.

Perhaps this was covered years ago, but you can think again if you want me to read through 20,000 posts just on the off chance I might get an answer before asking. Read what was actually discussed before you complain about the discussion topics. Or better yet if you've nothing constructive to add, remain quiet. Thank you.

[Otie]

*Practice patience, Otie, practice it*

I've just re-read the past five pages. Not once does anybody explain why there are no floors 94-99. Nor is it explained why the numbering jumps from 93 to 100. So my question was a new and legitimate one to ponder.

Perhaps this was covered years ago, but you can think again if you want me to read through 20,000 posts just on the off chance I might get an answer before asking. Read what was actually discussed before you complain about the discussion topics. Or better yet if you've nothing constructive to add, remain quiet. Thank you.
Floor skipping is a common trick used in almost every skyscraper (even the ESB does), there are no floors numbered as 94-99 nor 7-19. This tower couldn't have 110 real floors because it's self-contained, meaning that it has all the mechancial and electrical needs inside the building, they couldn't just spread them around the tower due to the reduced space, remember folks that this is one of the most complex (if not the most) site in the world, if you move one tinny beam, you're affecting the surrounding projects. Add also the fact that this tower is going to be a certified LEED building, extra infrastructure unavoidable.


An average mechanical floor is two office floors high so they put an M floor in between, because of this the M floor counts as a floor too. So it would be 92, 92M (93), 93 (94) 93M (95), 100 (96), 101 (97), 102 (98), 103 (99), 104 (100), and 110/Platform (101). This building if counted would have only 101 floors not 104, but it's still close enough.


The M stands for mezzanine, a partial floor that doesn't extend to the perimeter columns or that doesn't occupy the entire area. Tower One has 85 real floors with 10 mezzanines (4 of them aren't counted actual mezzanines due to the reduced size).

[sw5710]

I think the floor count of 104 is just an equivalent in feet for what a 1300' building might have. It is not based on actual floors in this situation. If 1 WTC had 12' floors above the 60' lobby all the way to 1,368' That would be 109 floors like the twins did. But each floor here is taller as most of us know so we get the same height in feet with less floors and they skip floors 94-99 because on floor 93 you are really equal in feet above the lobby to 99 floors up in some other buildings and floor 100 here is at 1,240' and floor 102 at ESB for example is lower at 1,224'. That is why i think that is done. The height above the ground in feet or meters equivalent.

[NewYorker2009]

Sure, there aren't any floors 94-99 because that is how the Port Authority chose to number it.

[sw5710]

I think the floor count of 104 is just an equivalent in feet for what a 1300' building might have. It is not based on actual floors in this situation. If 1 WTC had 12' floors above the 60' lobby all the way to 1,368' That would be 109 floors like the twins did. But each floor here is taller as most of us know so we get the same height in feet with less floors and they skip floors 94-99 because on floor 93 you are really equal in feet above the lobby to 99 floors up in some other buildings and floor 100 here is at 1,240' and floor 102 at ESB for example is lower at 1,224'. That is why i think that is done. The height above the ground in feet or meters equivalent.

I hope this helps just a little.

[Roadcruiser1]

There is also a second twist. The Twin Towers were built with a lower floor to ceiling height. This lower height allow the addition of more floors making it number 110. If a 110 story building was built today as an A class office building it would be at least 1,600 feet tall. The Twin Towers were new then, but by 2001 were already outdated by 28 years. There were plenty of new skyscrapers that were proposed or built that past them in the quality of office space. The only reason why the Twins were full were because leasing them was cheaper that leasing a small 5 story building down on the street below.

One World Trade Center is different too because it's being built as an A class office space building, because of this less floors were needed to have it reach the height the Twin Towers did. Even though the floor count might only be either 95 to 101 with the Mezzanines it's still the same height as the old Twin Towers were and the view is almost the same since they reach at about the same height.

Here is the stats.

1) The floor to ceiling height for the Twin Towers were 12 feet.

2) The floor to ceiling height for the new One World Trade Center is 15 feet.

[Domamania]

There is also a second twist. The Twin Towers were built with a lower floor to ceiling height. This lower height allow the addition of more floors making it number 110. If a 110 story building was built today as an A class office building it would be at least 1,600 feet tall. The Twin Towers were new then, but by 2001 were already outdated by 28 years. There were plenty of new skyscrapers that were proposed or built that past them in the quality of office space. The only reason why the Twins were full were because leasing them was cheaper that leasing a small 5 story building down on the street below.

One World Trade Center is different too because it's being built as an A class office space building, because of this less floors were needed to have it reach the height the Twin Towers did. Even though the floor count might only be either 95 to 101 with the Mezzanines it's still the same height as the old Twin Towers were and the view is almost the same since they reach at about the same height.

Here is the stats.

1) The floor to ceiling height for the Twin Towers were 12 feet.

2) The floor to ceiling height for the new One World Trade Center is 15 feet.

Actually with all due respect, The New Tower 1 WTC floors are 13 feet 4 inches tall, not 15 feet.

[Otie]

From slab to slab, yes 13'-4". From slab to ceiling is 9'-2"

[sw5710]

Otie: Do you know the slab to ceiling height for the 13' 4'' office floors in 1WTC.

[Roadcruiser1]

Really I found 15 feet online. I guess it was wrong. I will admit that.

[sw5710]

Otie: Do you know the slab to ceiling height for the 13' 4'' office floors in 1WTC.

Never mind:D

[Otie]

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[Roadcruiser1]

Awesome Otie. Now people can finally keep their mouths shut about the building.

[sw5710]

Ive never seen that diagram before Otie. What is with 91m?

[Otie]

That mezzanine is listed on a construction diagram I received a while back, forgot to add also 102 M.

[NewYorkDominates]

Those who have offices on floors 89&90 can easily have a basketball court installed.Highest office floor in the world at 23'?

[sw5710]

That mezzanine is listed on a construction diagram I received a while back, forgot to add also 102 M

Do you have the elevations of 91M and 102M and the other upper floors.

[gramsjdg]

As far as I am concerned, the top floor of WTC-1 is level three on the communication ring, or 1401 ft (1406 ft from Vesey). Even if it is only maintenance personnel (mostly) who will use it -its like another mechanical floor, but outdoors. The highest thing you could stand on in the old WTC was the outdoor observation platform on tower 2 which was at 1377 ft, and it was a pretty good distance back from the edge, limiting the view somewhat compared to the view from the communication rings. :cheers:

Also, the view from the 102nd floor deck will be far better than the old, slightly higher (~40 ft) deck in WTC-2 because of the massive increase in window space/obstruction-free viewing area. :cool:

[sw5710]

As far as I am concerned, the top floor of WTC-1 is level three on the communication ring, or 1401 ft (1406 ft from Vesey). Even if it is only maintenance personnel (mostly) who will use it -its like another mechanical floor, but outdoors. The highest thing you could stand on in the old WTC was the outdoor observation platform on tower 2 which was at 1377 ft, and it was a pretty good distance back from the edge, limiting the view somewhat compared to the view from the communication rings. :cheers:

Also, the view from the 102nd floor deck will be far better than the old, slightly higher (~40 ft) deck in WTC-2 because of the massive increase in window space/obstruction-free viewing area. :cool:

I wonder if they will do the steps down with seating at the windows?

[Otie]

Do you have the elevations of 91M and 102M and the other upper floors.

102M is located inside the core and is at 1,279'-10" above lobby floor. I believe there's no specific elevations for the minor mezzanines since they may be a composition of really small slabs at different elevations.

[sw5710]

Thanks Otie: I just want to make shure that i have all the floor info for the elevations when i post them.

[MadGnome]

Also, the view from the 102nd floor deck will be far better than the old, slightly higher (~40 ft) deck in WTC-2 because of the massive increase in window space/obstruction-free viewing area. :cool:

Not sure what you mean. You can't have a more unobstructed view than the old outdoor deck. I never missed a chance to stand out there and look at my digs on Governor's Island. Something about being outside on top of the building just made it an incomparable experience. It made looking through windows like seeing the view on TV for me.

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MORE STEEL!!!! MORE COLUMNS!!!!

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as of right now!!! :banana:

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[uaarkson]

We just need a FAQ we can link people to when they have questions like these.

[Noll]

Good to see more steel.

This pic is from WTC Progress on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress).

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[Don098]

We just need a FAQ we can link people to when they have questions like these.

I suggested that like a year ago and got attacked by everyone :koko: God forbid someone that isn't a super ultra nerd who jerks off to steel and cement comes on here and asks a question about an extraordinarily obscure fact that no one outside of the actual engineers or architects should ever care to know...

[NewYorkSkyline117]

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[gramsjdg]

Not sure what you mean. You can't have a more unobstructed view than the old outdoor deck. I never missed a chance to stand out there and look at my digs on Governor's Island. Something about being outside on top of the building just made it an incomparable experience. It made looking through windows like seeing the view on TV for me.

I should have clarified: I was comparing the indoor observation deck on the old WTC (~1309 ft) to the 102 floor deck on the new WTC-1. I was also comparing the third level on the communications ring to the old outdoor platform on WTC-2.