NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[NYC=WTC]

In layman's terms: they are structurally aligning the base with the rest of the building.

[CarlosV]

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[Duck From NY]

Please, somebody explain me what the strange thing they are doing with the corners ????
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No more diagonal corners. They're turning the base in to a box. Unfortunate, but supposedly it was deemed necessary.

[eleven=11]

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No more diagonal corners. They're turning the base in to a box. Unfortunate, but supposedly it was deemed necessary.

ok i got it , but not to get crazy or anything
does anybody know why?

for real why? is it by design or for safety?

[chris123678]

ok i got it , but not to get crazy or anything
does anybody know why?

for real why? is it by design or for safety?

Safety. The prismatic glass that was orginally going to be used broke to easily into dangerous shards.

[MadGnome]

The base was squared off because some moron from the P. A. decided that the customers would perceive the building as less stable with the chamfered corners. The "safety" rationalizations were just tacked on to support their idiocy.

[NYC=WTC]

The base was squared off because some moron from the P. A. decided that the customers would perceive the building as less stable with the chamfered corners. The "safety" rationalizations were just tacked on to support their idiocy.

Where is your source for that statement? 1wtc will be the safest office building ever imagined and safest ever built. The building is already almost fully leased out with Conde Nast as the main tenant! This building will not be coming down or fail like the twin towers did. 1wtc is extraordinary in ever aspect!

[Ed007Toronto]

^ Don't fool yourself. If someone really wants it to come down it will come down.

[Roadcruiser1]

The base was squared off because some moron from the P. A. decided that the customers would perceive the building as less stable with the chamfered corners. The "safety" rationalizations were just tacked on to support their idiocy.

That is not true. Stop spreading conspiracy in the construction thread of One World Trade Center.

The main reason why the base was squared off is the company couldn't manufacture the blast proof glass for a chamfered base, and even if it could be made it broke into dangerous shards as mentioned above. That is why the base is being squared off.

[installers]

I'd have to admit that it's a great successor to it's two towers from before. I'm proud to see it stand tall! Thanks for the beautiful snapshots guys :)

[NYC=WTC]

^ Don't fool yourself. If someone really wants it to come down it will come down.

Highly doubt that.

[Otie]

That is not true. Stop spreading conspiracy in the construction thread of One World Trade Center.

The main reason why the base was squared off is the company couldn't manufacture the blast proof glass for a chamfered base, and even if it could be made it broke into dangerous shards as mentioned above. That is why the base is being squared off.

The problem was that the panels were so deformed after the tempering process that they couldn't be laminated. It wasn't ever intented to be blast proof glass, and the chamfering didn't played a major roll in the issue.

The new design created by SOM consists of faceted panels that, due to the arrangement of these, can't be positioned into a chamfered geometry without getting odd forms at the corners, so the chamfering was scrapped.

[NYguy]

^ Don't fool yourself. If someone really wants it to come down it will come down.

It would take an extraordinary effort to take this building down. It would take a great effort to take any building down, but this building is far more than any other building.
No one's going to be taking this building down, though I'm sure there are plenty of terrorist who would like to. And that's why the extraordinary effort went into building it.
What happened with the original complex was beyond anything anyone would have imagined, but the circumstances were unique.



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[MadGnome]

That is not true. Stop spreading conspiracy in the construction thread of One World Trade Center.

The main reason why the base was squared off is the company couldn't manufacture the blast proof glass for a chamfered base, and even if it could be made it broke into dangerous shards as mentioned above. That is why the base is being squared off.

I see you're still pretending to know anything about anything. The glass has nothing to do with squaring off the corners.

[NewYorkDominates]

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[PMadFlyer]

The problem was that the panels were so deformed after the tempering process that they couldn't be laminated. It wasn't ever intented to be blast proof glass, and the chamfering didn't played a major roll in the issue.

The new design created by SOM consists of faceted panels that, due to the arrangement of these, can't be positioned into a chamfered geometry without getting odd forms at the corners, so the chamfering was scrapped.

I've heard both that and the shattering explanation that once they were deformed by the tempering process, a large number of the panels cracked and the few that did make it past all that failed catastrophically at the hammer test. I remember posts saying "there's a youtube video of the test," but I have never been able to find it.

PS the "unstable" image idea is BS, unless you find evidence to support it, however I could actually imagine that happening... there is growing conciseness that it looks better squared anyway.

[NYC GUY]

Should the whole exterior meaning spire glass and most of the base be done by may? and is it still opening late 2013 or is it early 2014 now?

[Nexis4Jersey]

Taken from Secaucus JCT

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[Gabedamien]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but will there still be programmable lights once the building is completed? Or are our current light shows temporary?

It seems like the current lights are set pretty far back (i.e. within the space that will become leased), not embedded into the floors' cross-sections or anything. Somehow I cannot see 1 WTC's client businesses agreeing to let the building owners control lighting in their offices during such-and-such hours.

[VerizonTower]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but will there still be programmable lights once the building is completed? Or are our current light shows temporary?

It seems like the current lights are set pretty far back (i.e. within the space that will become leased), not embedded into the floors' cross-sections or anything. Somehow I cannot see 1 WTC's client businesses agreeing to let the building owners control lighting in their offices during such-and-such hours.

The light shows are when for the building is under construction. :roofvsspire:

[CarlosV]

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[verttoit]

Looks like its still not complete yet but after another blitz of construction I'm sure it'll open its doors around November or so of this year.
I'd hate to work on the 108th floor lol.

[Otie]

Yeah, nobody would like to work on a microwave platform, building opening on 2014.

[NYguy]

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[deepen915]

The light shows are when for the building is under construction. :roofvsspire:

if somehow they can put some LEDs in the edge strips of the building glass, that would be nice..

[Chapelo]

Little older but....:omg:

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[N830MH]

Yeah, nobody would like to work on a microwave platform, building opening on 2014.

I guess they have wait to open sometime in early or mid-2014, but I am not quite sure. We will find out soon enough. Maybe if those date is subject to change.

[Hudson11]

iirc the target date for opening is the new year, January 1st 2014. Unofficial, I can remember seeing or hearing that somewhere

[2-TOWERS]

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great shot carlos....looks like the height of the antenna....

[2-TOWERS]

nice pics from Newark.....EWR:cheers:

[NYC GUY]

It looks like they're taking off the black netting completely and then will proceed with the glass.

[Davidsam52]

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These photos (except the last one) belong on Airliners.net!! :)

[Otie]

It looks like they're taking off the black netting completely and then will proceed with the glass.

Nettting is being removed to allow cranes lift and position MEP/HVAC equipment to the mechanical levels (plenums)

[Ed007Toronto]

Great shots from the airport.

[sbarn]

I flew out of Newark recently, the Manhattan skyline (and 1 World Trade) look incredible from that vantage point. I took some iPhone pix, but they're pretty crappy. The ones above are amazing.

[NYGrail]

Anyone else see the new Norwegian Cruise Line commerical? A completed WTC made the cut--here's a screen shot.
http://i48.tinypic.com/119xycl.jpg

[pnapp1]

It seems they have adjusted the curtain wall panels to account for the mechanical floors vents. It was not like this yesterday.

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2012-01-09_p1.jpg
Via KPI TV Webcam

[ATLksuGUY]

It seems they have adjusted the curtain wall panels to account for the mechanical floors vents. It was not like this yesterday.

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2012-01-09_p1.jpg
Via KPI TV Webcam

Yes!!! Thank you. I have been waiting for this!! They will add a lot of character to the tower. Can't wait for more.

[mrnyc]

^ interesting angle to see the cranes too.

[Eidolon]

Anyone else see the new Norwegian Cruise Line commerical? A completed WTC made the cut--here's a screen shot.
http://i48.tinypic.com/119xycl.jpg

Here it is:
j0I7unPpS0U

[NYguy]

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[verttoit]

:O Gorgeous! Cheers for the update mate.

[SFContributor]

New glass, super exciting :D

[NewYorque]

Uh I am not very aware about the progress of the OTHER parts of the new WTC..
And I was wondering if(and when) the "Whale skeleton" would be built.

What I call the "Whale skeleton", it is the enormous white sculpture between 2WTC and 3WTC. Sorry, I don't know its official name, so I call is "whale skeleton". :)

Is it being built?

[Chapelo]

^^ The Transit Hub? Yes, it's under construction, and should be complete in 2014.

There's a thread specifically for the hub and memorial here. (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=158432)

[NewYorkDominates]

NYonAir
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[AlphaCentauri]

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Wow I didn't notice that they started the different glass panels for the mechanical floors...

[aquablue]

The slots help the facade.

[Otie]

NYonAir actually has some fancy photos (https://www.facebook.com/NYonAir/photos_stream)

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[patriotizzy]

I will be going to NYC on the 24th of this month for 4 days. I can NOT wait!!! I've been dreaming of visiting for more than a decade now. First thing I'm gonna do is go to the WTC. I can just imagine its grandeur and sheer vertical epicness.

[TechTalkGuy]

:previous: Glad you like it, patriotizzy !! :cheers:

[NewYorkDominates]

patriotizzy
I will be going to NYC on the 24th of this month for 4 days. I can NOT wait!!! I've been dreaming of visiting for more than a decade now. First thing I'm gonna do is go to the WTC. I can just imagine its grandeur and sheer vertical epicness.

Trust me,just the bulk alone is going to hit you hard.

[jd3189]

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"I'm large and in charge."

[ThatOneGuy]

I remember on my visit to NYC (I hadn't seen skyscrapers for probably 8 or so years)
I was on the New jersey highway and the sheer massiveness of 1WTC struck me. By far the most giant man-made thing I've seen. Although I've never visited the building up close, I don't know if I could imagine the sheer feeling of looking straight up. It looks 2x larger than it does in pictures. So cool

[uaarkson]

Honestly it's more impressive from a distance. The view from the JC waterfront can be likened to standing in front of Mt. Rainier.

[Silverfox]

I remember on my visit to NYC (I hadn't seen skyscrapers for probably 8 or so years)
I was on the New jersey highway and the sheer massiveness of 1WTC struck me. By far the most giant man-made thing I've seen. Although I've never visited the building up close, I don't know if I could imagine the sheer feeling of looking straight up. It looks 2x larger than it does in pictures. So cool

I saw it up close just a few days ago. Immediately after I exited the PATH station, on the left side of me was one of the most massive, most beautiful man-made objects I have ever seen in my life. It's almost like a glass mountain.

[NYguy]

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[PZelda]

Was the side crane removed?

Yep, it was -- they removed it on 1/3/13. I was actually walking down the pier towards 1 WTC (same route Carlos and I took when we walked down the pier during my summer 2012 visit to NYC) when they were taking it down. So I have pics of it :) Will post when I get caught up on reading posts.

[PZelda]

It seems they have adjusted the curtain wall panels to account for the mechanical floors vents. It was not like this yesterday.

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2012-01-09_p1.jpg
Via KPI TV Webcam

Aaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwww, I missed seeing it in person by several days! (I left NYC on the 4th)

Nevertheless, that is effing AWESOME and I can't wait to see it in person again. :) I actually may need to come back to NYC soon for some more tattoo work so I will have to try to stop by and check this out :)

[PZelda]

I will be going to NYC on the 24th of this month for 4 days. I can NOT wait!!! I've been dreaming of visiting for more than a decade now. First thing I'm gonna do is go to the WTC. I can just imagine its grandeur and sheer vertical epicness.

Take the E train to the WTC!! (it's the very last southbound stop on that line) If you're staying in midtown like a lot of people do, you can catch the E going there from the Port Authority bus terminal (42nd and 7th, I believe, so in the Times Square area). :)

It's pretty freaking amazing walking up to street level when you get off the train because you literally wind up in front of the WTC complex. I still remember how awed I was the first time I did that. :)

You should also walk down the pier - west of the West Side Highway - and make your way down to the WTC. You can get some seriously unbelievably amazing pictures that way. And 1 WTC just smacks you in the face from that angle! I love it!

[NYCLuver]

I am echoing what the other's have said in the thread about how large and massive this tower appears to be on the skyline. I was taking a cab to work and crossing the 59th Street Bridge this morning and the tower just looked massive in the distance. It is hard to believe there were 2 of these towers. I am a born and raised New Yorker but I'll admit in the 10+ years since 9/11 you almost forget how tall the Twins were but now looking at 1 WTC, its amazing to see the height back. It is just so much taller and larger in size than any other building downtown. :) Of course I was 15 when 9/11 happened and I didn't spend much time downtown when I was younger so I only got to see the twins on occasion.

I can't wait for tower 2 and 3 to join towers 1 and 4. :)

[PZelda]

OK - here are my 1 WTC pics from my recent NYC visit.

This is from when I was walking down the pier on 1/3/13... One of just 1 WTC with no visible crane action occurring, the others are when they were hoisting the side crane down to the ground. Very glad to have caught that on camera! :D

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Beginning of crane hoisting action!!
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[PZelda]

I hope it's ok to make a 2nd post in a row with pictures... I wanted the first to be just crane pics :) Some other misc pics from that week...

Via the SI ferry. I LOVE it when the ferry passes the WTC/WFC complexes and when there's that brief moment where you can see ALL of 1 WTC. So so so so cool.
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The view I had from my hotel room. I couldn't see *all* of 1 WTC but I thought it was so cool I could actually see it from my window! It was my 3rd time at this hotel; I couldn't see it from my room the other two times. :)
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My visit to the 9/11 Memorial...
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The squared-off base action beginning...
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[Ed007Toronto]

Great updates as per usual.

[transitfan]

nice pics from Newark.....EWR:cheers:

Seconded :D

Especially the first shot, besides WTC1, aircraft is a nearly new (Certified on 7/30/12) US Airways Airbus A-321. :)

[ATLksuGUY]

Thanks pzelda. Nice to see the action at the base. Can't wait until they clad it. Nice pics!

[NYguy]

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[eleven=11]

nice to see the crane coming down.

any pics of the inside lobby or the
connections to the Path Train Station?

[401PAS]

IMO the single worse design change!! :(


The squared-off base action beginning...
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[dshane73]

I agree. They have removed the only design detail at the street. I think that walking by it will be a completely generic glass box. Like so many others. THere will be nothing to draw the eye upwards...

[patrick989]

I agree. They have removed the only design detail at the street. I think that walking by it will be a completely generic glass box. Like so many others. THere will be nothing to draw the eye upwards...

It's not as devastating as some of you make it seem. A lot of us (like me) prefer the change. This building is still a monster and there's plenty to draw the eye upwards...

[Jonboy1983]

Take the E train to the WTC!! (it's the very last southbound stop on that line) If you're staying in midtown like a lot of people do, you can catch the E going there from the Port Authority bus terminal (42nd and 7th, I believe, so in the Times Square area). :)

It's pretty freaking amazing walking up to street level when you get off the train because you literally wind up in front of the WTC complex. I still remember how awed I was the first time I did that. :)

You should also walk down the pier - west of the West Side Highway - and make your way down to the WTC. You can get some seriously unbelievably amazing pictures that way. And 1 WTC just smacks you in the face from that angle! I love it!

^^ I thought the bus terminal is at 42nd and 8th or 9th. 7th is still right smack in the center of Times Square, and I know it's a block or so away from the center of the square.

I don't get the beef with the squaring off of the base. I actually like it.

[nycaddict]

^^ I thought the bus terminal is at 42nd and 8th or 9th. 7th is still right smack in the center of Times Square, and I know it's a block or so away from the center of the square.

I don't get the beef with the squaring off of the base. I actually like it.

your right but the times square station and the PA are connected underground. doesnt really matter which one you enter.

[mrnyc]

totally agree squaring off the base is a worse cost saving change than the antenna/spire. after all, this is what everybody actually sees the most. oh well we will wait and see how it turns out. who knows, if they use the same highest quality materials as they did for the paneling it will look great. keep hope alive!


meanwhile - you guys and your freakin clarity :) my iphone pic just now from next to the meatpacking whitney

http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o725/NYCnMore/nyc/5EE1C9F2-ADE9-4EC6-9A8A-22AD74FAD938-19405-000015A75CE052D9_zps59e04a71.jpg

[Totojuice]

It's not as devastating as some of you make it seem. A lot of us (like me) prefer the change. This building is still a monster and there's plenty to draw the eye upwards...

Ya, I was actually pissed when they made this change, but as time has gone on I've realized that I was just projecting my anger from the spire change onto everything else. I really do like the new squared-off based. As someone who advocated for a rebuilding of the actual twin towers, I like the fact that the base is now covering the exact footprint that one of the original towers had....

I think the big square cladding will look quite spectacular when lit at night....

[Roadcruiser1]

I do not agree that the squared off version of the base is terrible. The reason is it reflects the base of the original Twin Towers. The base of the Twin Towers were a box. They didn't look like a Chinese food takeout box. To me the original base design looked like a Chinese food takeout box. It didn't in any way represent or symbolize the history or the significance of the site itself. To me the redesign of the base represents what was lost, and helps with the healing. Maybe they can chamfer the corners and then it would look even more like the base of the Twin Towers and help people get use to the new base design.

[chris123678]

When should we see the first piece of base cladding go up?

[NYguy]

The squared off base is only awkward because of the way the rest of the tower rises. Initially, I didn't like the sloped base because I thought just the opposite, but actually seeing it, it made the base - which many called a bunker - look less so. Now, we'll see.



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[dshane73]

I don't think it makes or breaks the building, merely stating that it was my favorite part. The base being squared off may turn out to be perfect.

I liked the taper at the bottom because to me it gave the building a floating effect, like we were seeing a reflection.

[steveve]

having the base of 1WTC squared off does make it a lot more reminiscent of the SWFC,

[Otie]

I believe the new podium enclosure will look more integrated with the building than the previous prismatic glass design, what worries me is the elimination of the stepped terraces and the isolation of the west plaza, these modifications will surely leave the building almost disconnected from the ground... quite reminscent to the original trade center :yuck:

When should we see the first piece of base cladding go up?
There are some technical problems related to the bolts on the base girders, don't know how long will it take to fix it, shouldn't be more than a week.

[PZelda]

^^ I thought the bus terminal is at 42nd and 8th or 9th. 7th is still right smack in the center of Times Square, and I know it's a block or so away from the center of the square.

I don't get the beef with the squaring off of the base. I actually like it.

Correct. :) and like what was said, they have several entrances. I remember they have them at 41st and 40th also. Just as long as you find the bus terminal in the Times Square area, you can take the E from there. :)

[NewYorkDominates]

Looks like 1930's New York City...

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[patriotizzy]

Take the E train to the WTC!! (it's the very last southbound stop on that line) If you're staying in midtown like a lot of people do, you can catch the E going there from the Port Authority bus terminal (42nd and 7th, I believe, so in the Times Square area). :)

It's pretty freaking amazing walking up to street level when you get off the train because you literally wind up in front of the WTC complex. I still remember how awed I was the first time I did that. :)

You should also walk down the pier - west of the West Side Highway - and make your way down to the WTC. You can get some seriously unbelievably amazing pictures that way. And 1 WTC just smacks you in the face from that angle! I love it!

That sounds like a great idea! I didn't even think of walking down the pier, even though I've seen many amazing pictures taken from there. Definitely will take your advice. Hope to maybe capture some of the great shots I had seen prior :D

[TechTalkGuy]

:previous: Some of the best pictures of One WTC will come from Jersey City and Brooklyn Park/Brooklyn Heights/Brooklyn Bridge.

You don't want typical tourist views, do you?

[Thaniel]

Since everyone's talking about the squared off base. I always thought they had intended to square it off. After a few years I started to think they weren't going to after all. I do like it more squared off but my opinion might be biased cus I wanted the entire building to be squared off.

I'm happy however it looks now though. Can't wait to see it in person soon. The first time I went to NYC there was just a hole in the ground, second time there was a 7 WTC and the PATH station had moved, this time there will be a 1, 4, and 7 that will be cool.

What I wanted it to look it:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/11936435/1024/Anonymous/WTC-square-antenna-full.jpg

[401PAS]

Since everyone's talking about the squared off base. I always thought they had intended to square it off. After a few years I started to think they weren't going to after all. I do like it more squared off but my opinion might be biased cus I wanted the entire building to be squared off.


I just don't see why to have the wasted space on the corners. And to loose another interesting angle in the building when structurally it is certainly not required.

[NYguy]

having the base of 1WTC squared off does make it a lot more reminiscent of the SWFC,

That base does come to mind frequently, though I think it is worse. You can see the similarity between tower and base, the squaring off will make it more so...


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[chris123678]

I believe the new podium enclosure will look more integrated with the building than the previous prismatic glass design, what worries me is the elimination of the stepped terraces and the isolation of the west plaza, these modifications will surely leave the building almost disconnected from the ground... quite reminscent to the original trade center :yuck:


There are some technical problems related to the bolts on the base girders, don't know how long will it take to fix it, shouldn't be more than a week.


Isn't this the case with the antenna bolts? I saw a post like this on Wired Ny? Same problem with the base as the antenna?

[mac78130]

The Skyline View is back up on earthcam!

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/

[Skyguy_7]

The Skyline View is back up on earthcam!

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/

And it's Friday! This calls for a Beer! :cheers:

[NewYorkDominates]

Complete dominance...

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[dar124]

:previous: Love the new glass!!!

[jd3189]

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In my opinion, the greatest view of any city in the post-modern era.

[Hudson11]

and it will only get better :slob:

[PZelda]

Excuse me, I just drooled all over myself. That new glass... STUNNING! :slob:

[2-TOWERS]

Excuse me, I just drooled all over myself. That new glass... STUNNING! :slob:
same here !!!!!!!! AMAZING IN YOUR FACE :tup::cheers:

[NYguy]

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[PMadFlyer]

Isn't this the case with the antenna bolts? I saw a post like this on Wired Ny? Same problem with the base as the antenna?

Yeah, but it makes more sense to have problems with the base due to the redesign and likely confusion of trying to redesign at the last moment. Some things may have been overlooked, however, the antenna mast bolt issue is guaranteed to cost some jobs.