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[yankeesfan1000]

Not to go off topic, but what is that addition (?) going up near the Trump Soho, maybe on Hudson street? I've seen it from a distance and wondered what the heck it was.

330 Hudson St (http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=1394).

[BigDan35]

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[Fluffybagel]

Just out of curiosity, will the glass on 1 wtc look more similar to that of 7 wtc once it's cleaned and such? I've always admired how reflective 7 wtc was, so it would be really cool if it was. The same question applies for 4 wtc. Thanks in advance for anyone who knows the answer.

[eleven=11]

Just out of curiosity, will the glass on 1 wtc look more similar to that of 7 wtc once it's cleaned and such? I've always admired how reflective 7 wtc was, so it would be really cool if it was. The same question applies for 4 wtc. Thanks in advance for anyone who knows the answer.

yeah , who knew the next big thing in constuction tech
was slightly better glass....

[CarlosV]

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[NYC GUY]

When should the glass be done cause it's taking ages.

[bigreach]

Ny Dominator that 3rd photo from the chopper tour or whatever it is... Perfect, looks like their doing somekind of work on the outer of the netting, or did they pul the net from that side? Other photos good job as well.. Carlos good to see a pic been awhile nice shot.

[NewYorkDominates]

Thanks a lot guys,New York City is just one amazing city.

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Thanks a lot guys,New York City is just one amazing city.

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Great find! Some more...


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Hello, new desktop background! :slob: :tup:

[pnapp1]

Judging from the recent images we can now see why the glass has been going up at a limited pace (about two hours worth of installing a day for the last 5 months). They were clearly not finished with fireproofing the mechanical floors (for whatever reason) and have only recently begun fireproofing again. You can see in the recent photos that the tarps are back up just above where the glass is currently and fireproofing is underway once again.

Also, we can now understand why the black netting has not been risen yet as well. Once fireproofing is completed, curtain wall installation should return to its former pace.

[Guiltyspark]

I know it is a national monument and whatnot, but I always think it would be amazing if Governors island had a bridge to the south tip of Manhattan (maybe a modern white suspension bridge; and was covered in skyscrapers. And at least one supertall of course.

A guy can dream.

[dar124]

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This looks like a pic from the "top of the world"!!!

Love it!!! :tup:

[NewYorkDominates]

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[Maxter]

Thanks a lot guys,New York City is just one amazing city.

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Just a really beautiful photo of such a wonderous city.

[WTCman7301]

The kpi wtc 7 cam is back up!!!!!!!!!

[WorldTradeCenter]

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Very North Tower(y). :tup:

[Chapelo]

:previous:

Totally! Very reminiscent of what was there.

The kpi wtc 7 cam is back up!!!!!!!!!

Yep, too bad it's not at quite the same angle it was at before. Nice to have it back in any case.

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[NYguy]

OK dorks, the souvenirs are in...


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New on the Mini Skyline


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By RALPH GARDNER JR
December 4, 2012



I'd be the first to admit that this column isn't the place to go for breaking news. But I'm pleased to report that I have some today: The 1 World Trade Center models are in! You know those miniatures of the Empire State Building you can find at Times Square souvenir shops—some with tiny King Kongs clinging to their antennas—or proud, greenish plastic Statue of Liberties, her gold torch-bearing arm raised high?

Now you can be the first kid on your block to own a 1 World Trade Center, defiant symbol of this city and our nation's resilience. Actually, the second person, if you live on my block. I got the first one last week—at least I'm claiming it's the first and I'll require notarized documentation to prove me wrong—when I happened to be passing a souvenir shop on Fifth Avenue in the 20s. I strolled in and discovered several of them amid a thicket of Empire States and Chrysler Buildings.

I already know what you're thinking: What kind of dork has lived in New York City his whole life and still frequents souvenir shops (let alone gets excited by their contents). I'll tell you what kind of dork: a proud, Big Apple loving, no apologies, never say Chicago or L.A., kind of dork.

I was heartened to discover that Mr. Tutus, who came to the U.S. from Istanbul in the 1980s and is celebrating his business's 25th anniversary, shares my passion for building models. He said that he'd been carrying the 1 World Trade Centers for a couple of weeks. They're only about 4 inches high, made of plastic, and retail for $6.99. "A new company made them," he stated, adding, if I understood correctly, that his normal high-quality, meticulous, attention-to-detail, model suppliers haven't yet entered the game because they haven't gotten authorization, licensing rights, the specs, or something like that.

"Do they have to get the release from the Port Authority?" the merchant asked. Unfortunately, I had no idea.

...For all the cheapness of its execution, my 1 World Trade succeeds. It somehow manages to capture the structure's monumental essence. My family agrees.

[QUEENSNYMAN]

According to Wired New York a section of the spire is on site, just figured I would share.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&page=857

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[Yankee fan for life]

First sections of the mast has arrived. :cheers:

[CarlosV]

^^^

:)

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[RKOwens44]

Hi everyone, I used to post regularly on here for several years, but have kind of lost track of the construction of 1WTC for the last six months or so. Can someone help catch me up on a few things that were "up in the air" last time I was here?

1.) Has any decision been made on whether the spire will include the outer fiberglass coverings (not sure their exact name) that the Port Authority was considering stripping to save money? And has it ever been determined how this will affect the classification of the building's total height?

2.) I knew they had changed the glass prisms around the base to just ordinary glass with backlighting, which I was okay with, but in some of the most recent renderings, it looks like they've actually gotten rid of the tapering of the corners of the podium and made it like one big cube. Has anyone confirmed that the corners will no longer taper out with height, or is this just some oversight in the renderings?

[NYguy]

1.) Has any decision been made on whether the spire will include the outer fiberglass coverings (not sure their exact name) that the Port Authority was considering stripping to save money? And has it ever been determined how this will affect the classification of the building's total height?


There was no "decision" to make in regards of the outer coverings. As far as what classification will be determined, that will be when the building is completed.

[Fluffybagel]

^^^

:)

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Is the tip of that top crane taller or shorter than how tall the spire is going to be?

[Design-mind]

The mast looked pretty insignificant on the barge, but seeing the pictures of the segments on the trucks, you really get a sense of how big these pieces are.

[401PAS]

First sections of the mast has arrived. :cheers:

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Can confirm that with this picture taken from the http://www.video-monitoring.com/construction/kpitv/silver.htm webcam. This is sitting on the north side of the building on Vesey St. :notacrook::banana:

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[QUEENSNYMAN]

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Great shot I love long distance shots like this one and as you can see from my videos, now when the antenna/spire is up and fully clad this shot will be even more greater:tup:

[NewYorkDominates]

Great find NYguy.

The base cladding is about to begin.

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Where was this fantastic shot taken??? Such a wonderful angle!

[QUEENSNYMAN]

I am taking just a guess Sandy Hook?

[metroXpress]

The observation deck will look great once it's opened. Beautiful view!

[CCs77]

Where was this fantastic shot taken??? Such a wonderful angle!

From Mt Mitchill, a small hill (but claimed as the highest natural point, excluding islands, in the atlantic seabord from Maine to Yucatan at 266 feet or 81 meters) located at Atlantic Highland, Monmouth County, New Jersey, all the way across the lower NY Bay.

On the top of the hill there is a 9-11 memorial. It is located about 33 km south of Downtown.

[sw5710]

Is the tip of that top crane taller or shorter than how tall the spire is going to be?

Each section of the tallest cranes boom is 30' long.

[NYC-Graffhead91]

Photo I took today (12/06/2012):

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[chris123678]

Two Questions

1. It seems as if base cladding will begin soon. When perhaps should we see the first pieces of glass, and how can they begin without the base being squared off yet?

2. When should we see these mast sections lifted up and installed?

[pico44]

Photo I took today (12/06/2012):

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Middle Village?

[canadate]

Me, earlier today. Via my photobucket page.http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/Spire/219B6C34-C0ED-4FF7-90F5-526A75ECDEF1-4360-00000546802D0ADA.jpg

[gramsjdg]

Maybe they aren't going to square off the base after all. Either that or it will be a long time before they start the base cladding because that is 200 ft high worth of build out on all four corners to square it off...:shrug:

[ThatOneGuy]

They will just place some metal bars to square it off, no extra pouring of concrete. THey can't square it off, though, with the netting off.

[NYC GUY]

Looking forward to the base cladding and the mast when should this be fully cladded?

[bigreach]

I have a feeling the antennae will be fully assembled before, we even see any base cladding begin. Probably will be the final part of the program.

[eleven=11]

Maybe they aren't going to square off the base after all. Either that or it will be a long time before they start the base cladding because that is 200 ft high worth of build out on all four corners to square it off...:shrug:

this seems wrong , why is the shape being changed?????

[MrSlippery519]

Maybe they aren't going to square off the base after all. Either that or it will be a long time before they start the base cladding because that is 200 ft high worth of build out on all four corners to square it off...:shrug:

It will take a lot less time than you think to square off the base. As someone else suggested it will be as simple as putting steel in place and securing to the existing base. The is no structural component so it will go rather fast.

The fact that they are removing the netting is a good sign...granted even that like everything else seems to be taking forever.

[NYguy]

Me, earlier today. Via my photobucket page.http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/Spire/219B6C34-C0ED-4FF7-90F5-526A75ECDEF1-4360-00000546802D0ADA.jpg

The last time this thing will be this close to the ground.



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[401PAS]

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Multiple pieces of the mast are onsite. Looks like they are going to be either lifting the one on the flatbed of the truck up or over to where the other piece is at.
photo taken from http://www.video-monitoring.com/construction/kpitv/silver.htm

[deepen915]

Couple of pictures by my friend from yesterday from atop the Empire State!

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[NewYorkDominates]

NYguy,that last photo reminds me a lot of the North Tower.

http://simotron.wordpress.com/2012/12/06/manhattan-this-morning-looking-downtown-to-the-new-world-trade-center-tower/

[NYC-Graffhead91]

Middle Village?
Correct.

[NewYorkDominates]

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[Yackemflaber69]

when are they going start building the mast

[Yankee fan for life]

when are they going start building the mast

maybe shortly before Christmas time.

[NewYorkDominates]

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[kpdrummer82]

BBPrNUzk1BA

That was absolutely stunning, awing and jaw dropping

[bigreach]

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That was sweet NyDominator the Helicoptor pics, then the video,, did you actually do the choppertour? If so grade A Pics. If not Great Find!!

[NewYorkDominates]

^ Thanks.Found it,I hope I had the skills though. :)

[fleonzo]

:previous:You should post that video on the Aerial threads!!

[winlinmac001]

Just comes to show how resilient New York City and New Yorkers Are! :cheers:

That was sweet NyDominator the Helicoptor pics, then the video,, did you actually do the choppertour? If so grade A Pics. If not Great Find!!

[hunser]

Superb vid NYD, one of the best I've ever seen. :tup:

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[PZelda]

Have they started lighting up 1 WTC in multi-color lights again yet like they did last year? I see that they did this already with the elevators. I looked at the Oxblue webcam, and it's kinda hard to tell because their webcam lens is dirty right now, lol.

This is exciting news to hear about the mast and base cladding beginning -- I will be back in NYC in less than 3 weeks so I will be getting to see this for myself. :tup:

[NYguy]

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[gramsjdg]

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They should never have gotten rid of the faceted radome covering the communication rings. Another mistake we will be paying for (aesthetically)

[Yankee fan for life]

:previous:

I personally like the present design better for the communication ring

[Otie]

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[aquablue]

:previous:

I personally like the present design better for the communication ring

It's atrocious. It isn't architecture, it is something you'd find on an antenna anywhere. An ugly industrial piece of steel



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That looks industrial and ugly. A cover was needed.

[jd3189]

:previous: Just like many parts of the city itself. I'm not too happy about it but if it's built, I'm not wasting breath to be against it. Lower Manhattan needs a peak in any form it can get it.

[aquablue]

:previous: Just like many parts of the city itself.

That has nothing to do with it! This building deserved a proper spire, not something that looks like it belongs in a corn field in North Dakota. The building is modern and sleek, then you plonk an ugly steel ring and mast contraption on top!!! Completely different characters and I don't think the meld well. The History Books will wonder what the 'hell these guys were thinking. What innovation they have shown in dealing with the issue (sarcasm).

[bigreach]

That looks industrial and ugly. A cover was needed.

Looks like a damn cell phone tower,, there's no way ctbuh will recognize this as a "spire",, It's thick as hell, (in some sections), but other than that, if they were to recognize it..Seems like many other scrapers will being crying out, for re-consideration...

[aquablue]

Looks like a damn cell phone tower,, there's no way ctbuh will recognize this as a "spire",, It's thick as hell, (in some sections), but other than that, if they were to recognize it..Seems like many other scrapers will being crying out, for re-consideration...

I agree, it is cell phone tower on steroids. :jester:

Shame on those who think that aesthetic compromises are acceptable to save a few $$$ on a site of such stature. If the design was unsafe or whatever, they should have come up with something better than this lame attempt. Well, they'll be lambasted in the future for it when the historians have their say..

Now it is ever so much more important that 2WTC is completed soon to take the attention away from that ugly spire.

[uaarkson]

The spire situation is indeed a mess. It's a good thing other towers are going up around the city, because aside from the base cladding I've just lost all interest in 1WTC.

[aquablue]

The spire situation is indeed a mess. It's a good thing other towers are going up around the city, because aside from the base cladding I've just lost all interest in 1WTC.

Damn right. Everyone in high positions in the city and country should have proclaimed their disgust at that action. It seemed that there was little outcry over this ugly heap of metal with a design worthy of a Ham Radio Antenna in some suburban backyard going up naked on this sacred site.

[NYC GUY]

I highly doubt the majority of New Yorker's really care what the spire looks like.

[599GTO]

I highly doubt the majority of New Yorker's really care what the spire looks like.

who cares about what the majority of new yorkers think. majority of new yorkers probably wouldn't care if a giant, preserved and molded block of feces was erected at the top of this tower. majority of new yorkers wouldn't care if the entire of tribeca or greenwich village were razed and replaced with ugly mcsam specials or housing projects. majority of new yorkers didn't care when the stunning pennsylvania station was razed and replaced by that horrendous heap of shit known as madison square garden. majority of ny'ers are just trashy and don't care about anything outside of their bubble.

but there is this wonderful thing we call community boards full of people with taste who hold aesthetics to high regards. hate them all you want but they're the reason so much gorgeousness in this city has not been razed and replaced with cheap, ugly crap. it's a shame that the district is not designated as historic and there is no sort of community board to stop that travesty from being plopped atop of this tower. new york really needs a taste panel sort of what they have in london with the higher ends who strike down trash proposed in the central city. but europeans have better taste than americans in general and london and paris would never allow this disgusting thing poking out at the top of an alleged landmark in the center of their cities.

[Ch.G, Ch.G]

I highly doubt the majority of New Yorker's really care what the spire looks like.

Yeah, as evidenced by many comments in this thread, there will be no shortage of praise for this beast from New Yorkers no matter how ugly it is.

[NYC=WTC]

model by PMadFlyer

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8256579684_5a9cec746b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/8256579684/)
One World Trade Center mast (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/8256579684/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr


Otie, do you have a picture of this detailed antennae installed on 1wtc? I want to get a better vision of what this tower will actually look like with the antennae.

Also, anyone know officially why they canned/axed the radome antennae cover? If by chance the reason was maintaining the antennae, wouldn't it still be hard to clean with or without the cover, given that dirt or ice could accumulate and crews would have to somehow still clean it anyway?

[NewYorkDominates]

who cares about what the majority of new yorkers think. majority of new yorkers probably wouldn't care if a giant, preserved and molded block of feces was erected at the top of this tower. majority of new yorkers wouldn't care if the entire of tribeca or greenwich village were razed and replaced with ugly mcsam specials or housing projects. majority of new yorkers didn't care when the stunning pennsylvania station was razed and replaced by that horrendous heap of shit known as madison square garden. majority of ny'ers are just trashy and don't care about anything outside of their bubble.

Now that's just going too far.Anyways,why would NY'ers care about an antenna,when their are things far worse in society that Americans don't seem to care about.It's people like you that...nevermind.

[Otie]

Otie, do you have a picture of this detailed antennae installed on 1wtc? I want to get a better vision of what this tower will actually look like with the antennae.


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8494/8256173783_828700f478_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/8256173783/)
One World Trade Center from the sky (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/8256173783/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

[NYC=WTC]

Thanks Otie! :cheers::banana:

[DURKEY427]

I dont think it looks to bad would have preferred the original but there we go. And building in london on the other note tend to have bricks flying through the glass.

[Noll]

From August:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8220/8254286618_a4c0bb2f41_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/8254286618/)
The buildings of Lower Manhattan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpiercephotography/8254286618/) by Jason Pierce Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/jasonpiercephotography/), on Flickr

[hunser]

http://www.axiomimages.com/clips/view/10094

and many more on: http://www.axiomimages.com/clips/location/26

[IntoTheLens827]

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[PZelda]

That has nothing to do with it! This building deserved a proper spire, not something that looks like it belongs in a corn field in North Dakota. The building is modern and sleek, then you plonk an ugly steel ring and mast contraption on top!!! Completely different characters and I don't think the meld well. The History Books will wonder what the 'hell these guys were thinking. What innovation they have shown in dealing with the issue (sarcasm).


Hey, now. I live in North Dakota. :D we wouldn't want an eyesore like that 'round here! ;)

[mheadroom]

Something tells me the CTBUH is not sold on Durst's whole antenna as spire bit.

From CTBUH's news section:

1WTC's 'Antenna' Surrendered by Canadian Fabricator (http://www.ctbuh.org/News/GlobalTallNews/tabid/468/EntryId/4638/1WTCs-Antenna-Surrendered-by-Canadian-Fabricator.aspx)

[Guiltyspark]

Something tells me the CTBUH is not sold on Durst's whole antenna as spire bit.

From CTBUH's news section:

1WTC's 'Antenna' Surrendered by Canadian Fabricator (http://www.ctbuh.org/News/GlobalTallNews/tabid/468/EntryId/4638/1WTCs-Antenna-Surrendered-by-Canadian-Fabricator.aspx)

Of course they are not. They are not going to make a special exception for 1WTC just because it is the world trade center. There is no difference between this antenna (mast) and the antennas of midtown that CTBUH also does not count.

[mheadroom]

Of course they are not. They are not going to make a special exception for 1WTC just because it is the world trade center. There is no difference between this antenna (mast) and the antennas of midtown that CTBUH also does not count.

I'm on the same page. That said, Durst was just so confident CTBUH would count the antenna in the architectural height that I just thought he knew something we didn't.

The sad reality seems that he doesn't see the difference between the BOFA Tower spire and this antenna. He thinks he knows more than Childs and he thinks the rules don't apply to him and we all have to suffer his ego.

[NewYorkDominates]

Liberty Helicopter Charter
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/14452_472704276102346_11560970_n.jpg?dl=1

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=472704276102346&set=a.472250506147723.103822.133774446661999&type=1&theater

[kpdrummer82]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8494/8256173783_828700f478_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/8256173783/)
One World Trade Center from the sky (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/8256173783/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

See guys, when you actually see it in a higher quality, this thing looks amazing.

[AerialView]

who cares about what the majority of new yorkers think. majority of new yorkers probably wouldn't care if a giant, preserved and molded block of feces was erected at the top of this tower. majority of new yorkers wouldn't care if the entire of tribeca or greenwich village were razed and replaced with ugly mcsam specials or housing projects. majority of new yorkers didn't care when the stunning pennsylvania station was razed and replaced by that horrendous heap of shit known as madison square garden. majority of ny'ers are just trashy and don't care about anything outside of their bubble.

but there is this wonderful thing we call community boards full of people with taste who hold aesthetics to high regards. hate them all you want but they're the reason so much gorgeousness in this city has not been razed and replaced with cheap, ugly crap. it's a shame that the district is not designated as historic and there is no sort of community board to stop that travesty from being plopped atop of this tower. new york really needs a taste panel sort of what they have in london with the higher ends who strike down trash proposed in the central city. but europeans have better taste than americans in general and london and paris would never allow this disgusting thing poking out at the top of an alleged landmark in the center of their cities.

Look, To each his own. I'm a NY'er too! Don't call ME trashy buddy! I wanted this spire like anyone else. However, The economy took a hit (and will continue to do so) while Broadcast went digital so where were YOU to stop that? That's why Durst is sticking with the antenna. Or is that a big lie or you just can't accept how things are? You are right about some NYer's not caring though. NY should have better buildings but there has always been an entitlement/excuse society where there's a stigma that architects are seen as artsy people with overinflated egos who are rich. The entitled crowd fail to get off their arses to do anything to better their lives, To be more creative, To feel inspired, But rather wallow around in Politics, sports and other things. That's WHY people aren't becoming architects or have any interest in architecture. Now, The more "need" of a taste panel OR any other authority regulating more of everything, Is just another bureaucrat with a problem up in someones face every minute because of someone else's distaste. Difference of opinion. I learned to accept the antenna. Don't like my acceptance, TOUGH !

Aquablue, You claim to be an authority on what ugly is? And where art belongs? Last time I checked, art and architecture IS purely Subjective.

So far, I'm GLAD NYC has finally done SOMETHING with the WTC site ! AND are building bigger buildings for the rest of Manhattan! :)

[jd3189]

See guys, when you actually see it in a higher quality, this thing looks amazing.

I can barely see the antenna.

[Dac150]

Yikes . . . all of these dramatic opinions and the thing has yet to be installed. As with anything else, final judgements shouldn't be set in stone until the final product is completed. Some of you may be pleasently surprised.

[TechTalkGuy]

Look, To each his own. I'm a NY'er too! Don't call ME trashy buddy! I wanted this spire like anyone else. However, The economy took a hit (and will continue to do so) while Broadcast went digital so where were YOU to stop that? That's why Durst is sticking with the antenna. Or is that a big lie or you just can't accept how things are? You are right about some NYer's not caring though. NY should have better buildings but there has always been an entitlement/excuse society where there's a stigma that architects are seen as artsy people with overinflated egos who are rich. The entitled crowd fail to get off their arses to do anything to better their lives, To be more creative, To feel inspired, But rather wallow around in Politics, sports and other things. That's WHY people aren't becoming architects or have any interest in architecture. Now, The more "need" of a taste panel OR any other authority regulating more of everything, Is just another bureaucrat with a problem up in someones face every minute because of someone else's distaste. Difference of opinion. I learned to accept the antenna. Don't like my acceptance, TOUGH !

Aquablue, You claim to be an authority on what ugly is? And where art belongs? Last time I checked, art and architecture IS purely Subjective.

So far, I'm GLAD NYC has finally done SOMETHING with the WTC site ! AND are building bigger buildings for the rest of Manhattan! :)

Well said !! :cheers:

I recall the critics over this "Freedom" (Free Dumb, Fraud 'em, etc.) tower.

Where are they now? :whisper:

[-Filipe-]

I can barely see the antenna.

same lol

[aquablue]

same lol

I agree. That is why this is ridiculous, it appears almost invisible without its cover.

Also, I never proclaimed any authority on what is ugly or not. Anything i say on that matter are of course just opinions.

[chris123678]

The new antenna is hideous. It's barley visible. It's an absolute disgrace to such a beautiful building. The only parts of the antenna are the lower parts that were recently shipped by the barge, the remainder of it is absolutely disgraceful. What makes it worse is the fact that the Port Authority continues to call this atrocity a spire.

[NYC GUY]

The thing hasn't even been installed yet and we can barely see it. It could end up not looking that bad lol.

[PhillyToNYC]

I want you all to take a look at nearly every antenna that has been made. Tell me that, in real life, and not on a computer, that it is invisible. I want someone to find one example of an invisible antenna. Seriously, its not that bad!