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NYguy
May 17, 2010, 2:07 PM
People have been wondering about the closeness to the Barclay-Vesey, but it's just another canyon...

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sask1982
May 17, 2010, 2:11 PM
^Great article...thanks for posting

Domamania
May 17, 2010, 4:11 PM
this is really depressing me cause I talked to my dad who is a shop stewered there and he told be that the companies providing the material at the world trade center is not cooperating at all with the schedual on hand and that they are being real slow and going to be in the next 2 weeks.

So I will keep you all posted from what my dad an insider to the contruction of the trade center tells me.

Dac150
May 17, 2010, 4:44 PM
Whatever it is it is at this point. But, that article reinforces how complicated this project is from all spectrums.

NYguy
May 17, 2010, 4:47 PM
Whatever it is it is at this point. But, that article reinforces how complicated this project is from all spectrums.

Right. Seems I have to keep repeating that this tower is under constrcution. It will be a few years before it's complete. In other words it won't get built overnight. Anyone that doesn't have the patience to watch probably shouldn't.

Dac150
May 17, 2010, 5:05 PM
^^^And with that said, something I like to remind those here is to enjoy this process. It may be pain-staking at times, but again its history. We’re witnessing a project unlike any other in the world. There’s got to be appreciation for that.

RockMont
May 17, 2010, 5:50 PM
Just like the old saying goes:

Rome wasn't built in a day. When this thing is finished, it's going to make Rome look like a little trash heap.

37TimPPG
May 17, 2010, 6:01 PM
Right. Seems I have to keep repeating that this tower is under constrcution. It will be a few years before it's complete. In other words it won't get built overnight. Anyone that doesn't have the patience to watch probably shouldn't.

Patience IS a virtue :D

winlinmac001
May 17, 2010, 6:21 PM
Agreed! That last article posted has really given me hope to see a brighter future for the NYC Skyline. This is is an inextricably more complex and bigger project than the former complex. I am talking from a building perspective, not political. This site is so much better than the former WTC complex. More green and cohesiveness! :D
:cheers:

Just like the old saying goes:

Rome wasn't built in a day. When this thing is finished, it's going to make Rome look like a little trash heap.

NYC4Life
May 17, 2010, 6:35 PM
By next month, we will finally see all elements of the site under counstruction. This has been a long road, but it's all looking bright now.

winlinmac001
May 17, 2010, 6:55 PM
I can't wait! :whip: This is going to be an exciting moment. Believe me, I want to see the foundations for Tower's 2 and 3 poured ASAP. =p

I do have a question about Tower 1. Apparently, Tower 1 is being constructed on top of the tunnels where the PATH Trains go through . Is there any protective covering on the building for the long run? I find it insecure to have a massive building built on top of something that is very vulnerable. :(

Also the building's proximity to the slurry wall is very less. Wouldn't you agree. Thanks in advance for clearing my doubts. :)

By next month, we will finally see all elements of the site under counstruction. This has been a long road, but it's all looking bright now.

evanmack
May 17, 2010, 9:14 PM
At least they get Subway every day.:tup:

RockMont
May 17, 2010, 9:22 PM
Agreed! That last article posted has really given me hope to see a brighter future for the NYC Skyline. This is is an inextricably more complex and bigger project than the former complex. I am talking from a building perspective, not political. This site is so much better than the former WTC complex. More green and cohesiveness! :D
:cheers:



It was the politics, after 9/11, that was the biggest annoyance however.

Innsertnamehere
May 17, 2010, 9:48 PM
At least they get Subway every day.:tup:

i doubt it. it is still a restruant and they probably still have to pay, so they would probably still pack a lunch

NYguy
May 18, 2010, 1:44 AM
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Indescribable
May 18, 2010, 1:49 AM
Much of the plaza structure is (counterintuitively) being built from the top down instead of the bottom up, because the memorial is scheduled to open before the lower concourse does. Right now, there are about 1,400 construction workers on the site, and by next year, that number will swell to 2,100. If everyone working in One World Trade were to make his way downstairs at lunch, it would take half a day, which is why there’s a structure hanging inside called “the hotel”: a stack of shipping containers two stories high, containing bathrooms, offices, and a Subway sandwich outlet. Every time the center of construction activity shifts, the hotel is jacked up a couple of stories.


1400-2100? I had no idea that many were working.

winlinmac001
May 18, 2010, 3:28 AM
I guess both the political standpoint and current construction plans are complex. But even before 9/11, building the former Twin Towers was a tedious process because of the tedious protocols developers had to go through in the early '60's. Its typical for New York.

I still am worrying about the fact that 1WTC is being build on top of the PATH train. Can somebody please clarify this. Thanks.

It was the politics, after 9/11, that was the biggest annoyance however.

Onn
May 18, 2010, 3:34 AM
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Wow, knockout view NYguy! :slob:

NYguy
May 18, 2010, 2:14 PM
I still am worrying about the fact that 1WTC is being build on top of the PATH train. Can somebody please clarify this. Thanks.

Take some time and read up on it. If you're still worried, then you're just the worrying type.


1400-2100? I had no idea that many were working.

That's for the entire WTC site. The numbers are expected to swell.

dchan
May 18, 2010, 2:56 PM
At least they get Subway every day.:tup:

I wouldn't give a thumbs up to eating Subway everyday.

winlinmac001
May 18, 2010, 6:09 PM
@NYGuy,

I did a quick Google search and arrived at this:

"After the utilities have been relocated, the next task will be to thread the tower's colossal steel support columns through the spaghetti of tracks. Column footings will be placed in 19 locations, and steel will be driven down as much as 15 feet into the bedrock.

In engineering-speak, this is called "a customized footings package." Usually, support columns are positioned in a symmetrical grid, but the Freedom Tower locations are oddly positioned. "They are shaped and rotated to fit the track geology," Mr. Cohen said, to keep from establishing support pillars, say, in the path of a hurtling subway car."

Source: http://www.hudsoncity.net/tubes/relocatingsignals.html

wong21fr
May 18, 2010, 7:00 PM
^And?

2-TOWERS
May 18, 2010, 9:56 PM
I guess both the political standpoint and current construction plans are complex. But even before 9/11, building the former Twin Towers was a tedious process because of the tedious protocols developers had to go through in the early '60's. Its typical for New York.

I still am worrying about the fact that 1WTC is being build on top of the PATH train. Can somebody please clarify this. Thanks.

Like NY GUY Said Your The worrying type ... look at the Met Life Building ...sits over two levels of tracks over Grand Central and the former Twins stood over the path tracks......................

Zensteeldude
May 18, 2010, 10:18 PM
Add Madison Square Garden to that list too.

They didn't mention crash walls in the article, or how every wall and slab from street level down is a "protection wall/slab". They also didn't mention that the columns are encased in concrete.

2-TOWERS
May 19, 2010, 12:47 AM
Add Madison Square Garden to that list too.

They didn't mention crash walls in the article, or how every wall and slab from street level down is a "protection wall/slab". They also didn't mention that the columns are encased in concrete.

good point I forget about MSG... and earlier pics show the colums encased in concrete........

NYguy
May 19, 2010, 1:49 AM
Another potential new tenant? Though it would depend on what space Conde Naste would take, if any...

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-18/bny-mellon-seeks-new-space-may-sell-wall-st-tower-update2-.html
BNY Mellon Seeks New Space, May Sell Wall St. Tower

May 18, 2010
By David M. Levitt and Charles Stein

Bank of New York Mellon Corp. is considering moving from its Manhattan headquarters and selling 1 Wall Street, the building it now occupies, Jeep Bryant, a spokesman for the bank, said in an interview.

The company sent a request for proposals to New York City landlords seeking about 450,000 square feet of space, Bryant said today by telephone. A move may prompt the bank to sell its 52-story limestone tower at the corner of Wall Street and Broadway in lower Manhattan, he said.

“We are looking for a location that might be better equipped to meet our needs,” Bryant said. “We are looking for improved client meeting space and something that can accommodate state-of-the-art technology.”

The search comes as the pace of leasing office space in New York is rising. Tenants signed contracts for 6.75 million square feet of space through the first four months of this year, almost double the amount in the same period of 2009, broker CB Richard Ellis Group Inc. said May 11. Commercial property sales are also picking up, with dollar volume tripling in the first quarter, according to broker Cushman & Wakefield Inc.

The possibility that the market is reaching bottom helped convince BNY Mellon to look for space, Bryant said. “Part of this exploration over the next few months is to see if that is indeed the case,” he said.

The bank expects to decide whether to lease new space and sell its headquarters by the end of the year, he said.”

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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/05/port_authority_installs_cocoon.html

Port Authority installs cocoon safety system around World Trade Center steel structure

By Steve Strunsky/The Star-Ledger
May 18, 2010

Wokers building the signature tower at the World Trade Center site are being protected by a state-of-the-art “cocoon,” designed to keep them — and anything else — from falling off.

Safety is a top priority for the Port Authority, Steve Plate, the Port Authority’s director of World Trade Center construction, said during a presentation on what he called a “first-of-its-kind perimeter protection system” during today’s board meeting.

For that reason, the agency has agreed to pay $9 million to DCM Erectors of New York City to wrap what is essentially a four-story blue cage around the uppermost floors of One World Trade Center, the building formerly known as the Freedom Tower, now under construction.

“The cocoon is the first of its kind to be used on a steel skyscraper in New York City,” Plate told Port Authority board members.

As the building climbs toward is 1,776-foot height, Plate said, the device will be hoisted up it’s exterior, continually wrapping around the uppermost floors where the steel framework is being erected.

“The cocoon will move up and encapsulate the iron workers as they do their job,” Plate added.

Below the four floors of blue cocoon will hang another 16 stories of fire resistant netting.

Plate said it could also be used essentially as a huge, four-sided billboard, bearing, for example, the Port Authority logo. As the future tallest building in New York rises above the lower Manhattan skyline, Plate said, it will provide what he called “a unique communications opportunity.”


Slideshow from the PA...
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/index.html

Onn
May 19, 2010, 2:35 AM
If I were Silverstein I would be out trying to sell tower 3.

Onn
May 19, 2010, 3:47 AM
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pico44
May 19, 2010, 10:16 AM
Are those new columns?

OneWorldTradeCenter
May 19, 2010, 1:35 PM
Are those new columns?

It's still floor 24!?

NYguy
May 19, 2010, 1:42 PM
Are those new columns?

Yes, I believe they are.


A little more on the space search..

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/realestate/commercial/same_tower_different_floors_NXZIKJQ1MdlYaDYz7xGyqM
Same tower, different floors

By LOIS WEISS
May 19, 2010

Despite nervous nellies fretting a while back that Manhattan would be awash in large chunks of empty office space, a sudden dearth of big blocks of available space has prompted developers to consider dusting off their plans for new, large office buildings.

Some brokers say that large block availabilities have been chipped away in central locations, leaving those needing 400,000 square feet to mull splitting their requirements within the same tower, taking some floors in one section of a building, and a group of floors in another portion.

"These days, you have to be very creative," said Peter Turchin of CB Richard Ellis. "If I need a list of 400,000 [square foot] blocks, there aren't many."

According to current Cushman & Wakefield statistics, there were just 17 blocks of 250,000 square feet available within the last six months.

...Meanwhile, various industry sources highlighted some of the current brick-kicking taking place among major corporations.

Morgan Stanley is seeking 850,000 to 1 million square feet downtown through Barry Gosin at Newmark Knight Frank, while Condé Nast, as you may have read, is also in need of one million feet. Both are looking at all the future World Trade Center towers.

Others on the hunt include:

* Société Générale for 500,000 square feet, though the French bank may renew its current lease through Pat Murphy at CB Richard Ellis.

* French advertising giant Havas, which has tapped Gosin and colleague David Falk to help it search for 400,000 square feet.

* NYU's Langone Medical Center, which is searching with Josh Kurlioff and Bruce Mosler at Cushman & Wakefield.

* Bank of New York, which has tapped Peter Riguardi at Jones Lang LaSalle in its search for 450,000 square feet.

* Neuberger Berman, which has hired NKF's Neil Goldmacher for its search for 340,000 square feet.

* Columbia Presbyterian, which is getting help from Goldmacher and colleague Mark Weiss in its quest to secure between 300,000 and 400,000 square feet.

* Men's retailer Paul Stuart, which is in the hunt for 150,000 square feet.

* Money manager Nataxis, which is nearing a deal to move into 173,000 square feet on the third through sixth floors of 1251 Avenue of the Americas thanks to Cushman & Wakefield's John Cefaly.

NYguy
May 19, 2010, 2:14 PM
Only time will tell if all the talk of a Conde Naste move Downtown actually leads to a lease...

http://www.observer.com/2010/media/si-it-isn%E2%80%99t-so-cond%C3%A9-considers-move-downtown
Si It Isn’t So! Condé Considers Move Downtown

By John Koblin and Eliot Brown
May 18, 2010

Si Newhouse is intent on finding Condé Nast a new home.

Only 11 years after Condé Nast moved into 4 Times Square, Mr. Newhouse has stepped up a three-year-long real estate search and is setting his sights on, of all places, lower Manhattan.

And within just the past few weeks, Condé Nast reached out to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey expressing interest in taking 1 million square feet at One World Trade Center, which is scheduled to open at the end of 2013. Condé Nast has also approached the Bloomberg administration to discuss a move from midtown to the tower, suggesting the effort is a serious one.

Based on conversations with multiple real estate executives, government officials and Condé Nast sources, they are pursuing the tower more aggressively than some of the other would-be offices Condé has looked at in the past few years. "It's certainly not bluffing," said a Conde Nast executive to The Observer. "It's a serious look."

Condé's expressed interest in One World Trade Center, which will be the country's largest skyscraper, comes as the Port Authority is about to choose between one of three private developers-Related Companies chairman and Time Warner Center builder Stephen Ross; Boston Properties chairman and Daily News publisher Mort Zuckerman; and 4 Times Square landlord Douglas Durst-to buy a stake in the building and take the lead in leasing the tower.

Of the bids made by those three suitors, the one from Mr. Durst is clearly aided by Condé Nast's interest, since he could easily let the company out of its current lease early. Mr. Durst, who wooed Condé 14 years ago to Times Square, would presumably be far more willing to excuse the publisher from paying for its full 20-year lease if it is moving into another building that he controls.

Condé seems to be moving quickly. In the past few weeks, the company has reached out to the Bloomberg administration to discuss a possible move to One World Trade Center and its effects on a subsidy package granted to the publishing house when it moved to Times Square, according to a government official familiar with talks. (The publisher received incentives under the condition that it stay at 4 Times Square for its 20-year lease; leaving early would require a renegotiation with the city.)

In October 2007, Condé Nast partnered with Douglas Durst, its current landlord, to bid to develop the sprawling West Side rail yards by the Javits Center. Condé Nast was to be his anchor tenant, taking 1.5 million square feet in a new neighborhood-to-be.

Mr. Durst lost, the economy soured and Condé began looking elsewhere. In late 2008 and 2009, the firm talked with Brookfield Properties and the Related Companies, each about building a new tower on the West Side.

Dac150
May 19, 2010, 2:22 PM
Very exciting; between Conde and other companies scouting the city for new space.

OneWorldTradeCenter
May 19, 2010, 2:24 PM
I hope the tower is still on schedule

colemonkee
May 19, 2010, 2:52 PM
The pictures that Onn posted are a little old, at least a week, maybe two. A cursory glance on the previous two pages of the thread verify that. The corner nodes are the most obvious difference, along with the office floor count. Onn, it would be helpful if you noted that in future posts so we don't have that kind of confusion.

Puzzlecraft
May 19, 2010, 3:59 PM
Seems that the process of installing the super thick, super dense rebar is a very slow process! Erecting steel in two-floor chunks in two weeks is quite doable, but can the Rebar be done that fast? In other words is there a problem here or is the core on schedule?

CalibratedZeus
May 19, 2010, 6:09 PM
Can anyone shed some light on exactly what this construction on the southeast corner is that they put up over the past few days?

5/14
http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/pictures/wtc/Misc/514.jpg

5/19
http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/pictures/wtc/Misc/519.jpg

Is it some kind of concrete form or?

Nico54
May 19, 2010, 6:24 PM
Can anyone shed some light on exactly what this construction on the southeast corner is that they put up over the past few days?

5/14
http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/pictures/wtc/Misc/514.jpg

5/19
http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/pictures/wtc/Misc/519.jpg

Is it some kind of concrete form or?


It's only a concrete wall between the two columns of steel. Check the renderings of the 1WTC when i'ts over, you'll see, it seems to be concrete walls, and the pictore you put shows that it is actually conrete.

Zensteeldude
May 19, 2010, 7:48 PM
Seems that the process of installing the super thick, super dense rebar is a very slow process! Erecting steel in two-floor chunks in two weeks is quite doable, but can the Rebar be done that fast? In other words is there a problem here or is the core on schedule?

There is a problem with the core, it has fallen too far behind steel erection.

DCM was ordered to stop further steel erection until the core concrete gets higher.


CalibratedZeus, that's a section of form for the perimeter protection wall.

NYguy
May 19, 2010, 11:48 PM
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Bucktown718
May 20, 2010, 12:43 AM
The Godzilla is rising.

OneWorldTradeCenter
May 20, 2010, 2:09 PM
Great shots of this lovely tower.

Zensteeldude
May 20, 2010, 3:08 PM
Ya can see the anchors for the curtain wall on the edge of the 20th floor slab clearly in that second shot. (just below the blue safety netting)

micromax
May 20, 2010, 3:36 PM
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mwadswor
May 20, 2010, 3:38 PM
Ya can see the anchors for the curtain wall on the edge of the 20th floor slab clearly in that second shot. (just below the blue safety netting)

Sorry if this has been asked before, but when do they start installing the curtain wall?

Zensteeldude
May 20, 2010, 3:40 PM
Fourth quarter 2010 at the earliest.

RockMont
May 20, 2010, 4:46 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before, but when do they start installing the curtain wall?





Do you mean the skin?

uaarkson
May 20, 2010, 5:25 PM
I thought they said third quarter 2010? Or was that for the base cladding?

Zensteeldude
May 20, 2010, 5:39 PM
Yes, the skin, or exterior cladding, known as a curtain wall system.


uaarkson, the slow progress of the concrete contractor is going to push back start dates for several things. It has already delayed steel erection almost 2 weeks, so far.

Domamania
May 20, 2010, 6:18 PM
Everybody I have Good news. My dad just called my cell and he told me that they just put new steel up today on Tower 1V2. So stay tuned while I keep you posted.

Zensteeldude
May 20, 2010, 6:35 PM
That is good news.

Maybe the PA lite a fire under the concrete contractors chair ! :)

RockMont
May 20, 2010, 7:47 PM
[QUOTE=Zensteeldude;4847297]Yes, the skin, or exterior cladding, known as a curtain wall system.




OK so in other words, the facade. I know that the 'bones' are rising rapidly.

NYguy
May 21, 2010, 2:26 AM
Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4624286115/sizes/l/) (May 20)

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http://www.observer.com/2010/politics/ward-going-europe-shop-one-world-trade

Ward Going to Europe to Shop One World Trade

By Eliot Brown
May 20, 2010

Port Authority executive director Chris Ward is planning a trip to Europe next week in a bid to market One World Trade Center to potential tenants, a spokesman for the bi-state agency confirmed.

Mr. Ward plans to be gone May 25 through 31 on the trip, said the spokesman, Stephen Sigmund, and plans to travel to London, Frankfurt and Amsterdam.

The purpose appears to be to start generating interest globally for the tower, which is being positioned as a would-be home for offices of international firms. Mr. Ward is traveling with Tara Stacom, vice chairman at Cushman & Wakefield, the brokerage that is the leasing and marketing agent for the tower, Mr. Sigmund said.

However, the tour comes at something of an unusual time, given that the Port Authority is in the midst of a contest to sell a stake in the building to one of three major developers who, presumably, would be charged with going on trips like this one. The agency has sought to bring in the private investor with the hope that the landlord would take the lead in marketing the tower, given that these landlords are presumed by major tenants to be more qualified at leasing than the Port Authority, a transportation-focused public agency.

NYguy
May 21, 2010, 3:31 AM
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/real-estate/will-mort-zuckerman-move-the-new-york-daily-news-downtown/19484003/

Will Mort Zuckerman Move the New York Daily News Downtown?

By JEFF BERCOVICI
05/20/10

The employees of Condé Nast, the glossy magazine publisher, may not be relishing the prospect of a corporate move to downtown Manhattan, but at least they should have some company down there. Mort Zuckerman, the owner of the New York Daily News, is also in early discussions about moving his publishing operations to the southern end of the island, away from the media industry's midtown power base.

"We're undecided," says Jeff Zomper, the paper's senior vice president of human resources, who's also in charge of the real estate search. "It's possible we could do a renewal on our current space, or there's a chance we could end up downtown. We've flipped back and forth on this about six times."

Currently, the News resides on 33rd Street west of Ninth Avenue, in a building it shares with the Associated Press. But those offices, unlike the ones in Condé Nast's gleaming Times Square tower, are decidedly run down -- "disgusting," in the view of one occupant. They also may be roomier than the paper needs once it completes a round of downsizing initiated earlier this month with buyout offers sent to every employee.

On the Road Again?

On the other hand, that space might not prove roomy enough should Zuckerman end up buying Newsweek, as he's reportedly considering doing, and merging it with U.S. News & World Report. If that were to happen and Zuckerman were to move the combined operation downtown, it would be the third shift in a short time for the staff of Newsweek, who relocated from Columbus Circle to Tribeca last year, only to be told they were moving back uptown a few months later.

Zomper wouldn't say where the downtown space the Daily News is considering is located, but he did confirm that the paper earlier took a look at the offices in the World Financial Center previously occupied by The Wall Street Journal, which joined the rest of News Corp. in midtown last summer. "We had some conversations with them, but we have some rather unique infrastructure needs they weren't able to meet," he says.

Condé Nast has also looked into the possibility of leasing space in the World Financial Center, according to the New York Observer, but is said to favor the idea of becoming a charter tenant in the newly built One World Trade Center, aka the Freedom Tower, in part to take advantage of government incentives designed to lure business back down there in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks.

As it happens, Zuckerman, whose primary business is real estate, is among the contenders to buy a stake in One World Trade Center from the Port Authority and become its developer. If he prevails, might that become the Daily News's new home? Zomper declined to comment further.

uaarkson
May 21, 2010, 4:55 AM
All it took to get a slew of companies to think about moving into the WTC was to get a construction plan started. What a big surprise!

winlinmac001
May 21, 2010, 10:25 AM
Surprised Indeed.
Midtown is becoming a bustling town.
Now Downtown reopens new opportunities.

More Prospective Tenants = Push for Completion of all 5 Towers with their respective completion dates

:banana:

Put it the other way around, could take forever.

:shrug:

For now, situation has improved and hopefully there is more interest. The only we could do now is be patient, cross our fingers, and hope to move forward.
:cheers:

BStyles
May 21, 2010, 1:03 PM
Do you know what this means?!

Okay...maybe not.

It means that if office space demand rises, not only will 1WTC be leased altogether, but that also means more tenants for towers 3 and 4, and potential tenants for tower 2, which means that the tower might just keep going after the base is done!

When a tenant has the idea that a tower is going to be constructed, he is willing to purchase some 2010 standard, LEED gold office space. And since all of these towers are pending LEED gold certification, AND they're all going to be under construction, it's become a frenzy for new office space.

Domamania
May 21, 2010, 1:24 PM
Well everybody more steel is going up for today at Tower 1V2

nycdagreatest
May 21, 2010, 2:20 PM
:previous:Great now hopefully their are no further setbacks

winlinmac001
May 21, 2010, 4:38 PM
Hey, I didn't find any info on this, but will there be office levels below the lobby. I remember the Former Twin Towers each had an additional six stories of office space below-grade. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks

Dac150
May 21, 2010, 5:15 PM
The lower levels of the former WTC consisted of a retail and dining concourse, access to transportation (PATH & Subway), Parking (Cars & Buses) and multiple levels of utility. The new WTC’s underground will mirror that only with a different layout.

evanmack
May 21, 2010, 6:54 PM
The lower levels of the former WTC consisted of a retail and dining concourse, access to transportation (PATH & Subway), Parking (Cars & Buses) and multiple levels of utility. The new WTC’s underground will mirror that only with a different layout.

So a good amount of 1WTC will be open to the public?

Gateway395
May 21, 2010, 7:13 PM
Well everybody more steel is going up for today at Tower 1V2

Why do you call it Tower 1V2?

Dac150
May 21, 2010, 8:38 PM
So a good amount of 1WTC will be open to the public?

Underground, yes. There will be a ‘public’ lobby so to speak within the building which will provide access to the observation deck and restaurant. Other areas will be off limits to the general public.

BStyles
May 21, 2010, 8:45 PM
I believe he said it's personal, but it also relieves confusion. As you know, the North Tower occupied that name before this one.

A majority of the original WTC complex was leased to the public(the Mall at the World Trade Center, Windows on the World, Top of the World, etc.) not to mention various connections to mass transit and commuter rail. What this WTC is trying to do is restore all of that, and then some(double level mall, PATH station, and connection to 13 subway lines).

mwadswor
May 21, 2010, 8:49 PM
Other areas will be off limits to the general public.

Unless you dress nicely and walk confidently :D

Dac150
May 21, 2010, 9:00 PM
Unless you dress nicely and walk confidently :D

Or have a valid ID badge which will scan.;)

Domamania
May 21, 2010, 9:44 PM
Why do you call it Tower 1V2?

Well the reason why I call it Tower 1V2 short for Tower 1 Version 2 is because the First Tower 1 meaning the north tower of the Twin Towers was the first version of Tower 1, now the building going up Formerly Freedom Tower is now called Tower 1. But since its not the original tower 1 I call it Tower 1V2

Innsertnamehere
May 21, 2010, 10:48 PM
:previous: cool, i thought you said that because it was the second design for the NEW 1wtc!

winlinmac001
May 22, 2010, 8:37 AM
I thought there were 6 levels of office space below the lobby as well. Weren't there vaults full of gold?

NYguy
May 22, 2010, 3:05 PM
Well everybody more steel is going up for today at Tower 1V2

There was indeed more steel being delivered to the site yesterday as I passed through. No images of that though...

MAY 21, 2010

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Couple of clips...

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winlinmac001
May 22, 2010, 5:19 PM
@NYGuy,
Okay, I don't know much about construction materials but what is that "black tarmac" that they are applying over the ground? It resembles something you would either put on your driveway or a Recreational Park.

Also, is it safe to use photography there. It looks like you were nervous while snapping footage of the construction area. I would like to also do this the next I visit.

Oh my, I forgot how Route 9A used to look like before 9/11. Was it always that congested?

canadate
May 22, 2010, 5:36 PM
Nice shots NYguy! I also went down to the site yesterday. Here's what I shot. >> http://s973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/One%20World%20Trade%20Center-%20May%2021st%202010/

Bucktown718
May 22, 2010, 6:52 PM
I'm so glad that im following the construction of 1WTC, while others don't even have a clue that theres something fantastic is building on ground zero.

uaarkson
May 22, 2010, 7:24 PM
@NYGuy,
Okay, I don't know much about construction materials but what is that "black tarmac" that they are applying over the ground? It resembles something you would either put on your driveway or a Recreational Park.

Also, is it safe to use photography there. It looks like you were nervous while snapping footage of the construction area. I would like to also do this the next I visit.

Oh my, I forgot how Route 9A used to look like before 9/11. Was it always that congested?

You can take as many picture as you'd like as long as you're not on the site, which you won't be.

Zensteeldude
May 22, 2010, 9:49 PM
@NYGuy,
Okay, I don't know much about construction materials but what is that "black tarmac" that they are applying over the ground? It resembles something you would either put on your driveway or a Recreational Park.

Also, is it safe to use photography there. It looks like you were nervous while snapping footage of the construction area. I would like to also do this the next I visit.

Oh my, I forgot how Route 9A used to look like before 9/11. Was it always that congested?

The black rolls of stuff are rubber waterproofing. I can't remember if the specs call for Goodyear or Firestone's product. The sooner they get the plaza slab sealed the sooner they can get started with the below grade finish work. (basically anything that cant get wet, like electrical etc.)

Dallascaper
May 23, 2010, 12:56 AM
Photo taken a couple of days ago from the Hudson.

http://www.farscapefantasy.com/DFW/NewYork/1776.jpg

NYguy
May 23, 2010, 1:16 AM
Also, is it safe to use photography there. It looks like you were nervous while snapping footage of the construction area.

I was terrified, and no, it's not safe at all. I may never go back. Until next week, or so.


The black rolls of stuff are rubber waterproofing. I can't remember if the specs call for Goodyear or Firestone's product. The sooner they get the plaza slab sealed the sooner they can get started with the below grade finish work.

You can also see just how much higher the plaza level is than the surrounding streets.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78009053/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124790741/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124791455/large.jpg

Dac150
May 23, 2010, 1:20 AM
I was terrified, and no, it's not safe at all. I may never go back. Until next week, or so.

Well thanks for risking your life to provide these updates.:haha: ;)

Onn
May 23, 2010, 2:05 AM
Does anyone know what the cinderblock cube is for?

winlinmac001
May 23, 2010, 2:41 AM
I believe that will be used for placing the trees later this summer.

Does anyone know what the cinderblock cube is for?

@NYGuy. Thanks for taking the pictures. :worship:

Just be careful if you plan to continue posting updates. ;)

I believe the former WTC site was 'extremely' above street level. Will the new overall WTC site plan be similar as far as the above-grade is concerned?

Dac150
May 23, 2010, 2:46 AM
No, as the renders demonstrate. The complex at street level will be integrated and engaged to street life as oppose to the former which was more isolated and removed.

Zensteeldude
May 23, 2010, 4:56 AM
Nice shots NYGuy.

The CMU structure in the second and third shots is the temporary PATH vent.

CMU=concrete masonry unit, aka "cinder block" though they contain no cinders.
Onn, this post is for you.:)
Now water proofed.

Yael
May 23, 2010, 6:00 AM
When are they starting with the Facade????:shrug:

winlinmac001
May 23, 2010, 6:47 AM
The fascade won't begin 'till the end of the year probably.
A lot of questions are being repeatedly asked. I think this thread needs a F.A.Q. on the first page.

By the way, does any body know if there is a thread that exists on the forum dedicated to the whole WTC Site (not just 1 WTC alone)?

I had a couple questions related to vehicle traffic through the site. Is it really necessary, lol. I think there will be congestion. What is your take on this? =p

NYguy
May 23, 2010, 1:46 PM
The fascade won't begin 'till the end of the year probably.
A lot of questions are being repeatedly asked. I think this thread needs a F.A.Q. on the first page.

There already is one, but I think answers most are looking for can be found here...
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/q_a_intro.cfm


By the way, does any body know if there is a thread that exists on the forum dedicated to the whole WTC Site (not just 1 WTC alone)?

I had a couple questions related to vehicle traffic through the site. Is it really necessary, lol. I think there will be congestion. What is your take on this? =p

You can discuss everything WTC related (site planning, designs, etc) here...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=166333

NYCLuver
May 23, 2010, 5:39 PM
May 22nd, 2010

(Yes I know its at night and you can hardly see much, but hey! I was there and decided to take a couple of pics!)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4632693500_64e75783e6_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4632095497_f2a06d81b9_b.jpg

Onn
May 23, 2010, 5:56 PM
Nice, like the night shots actually. No one's really done that yet. :D

canadate
May 24, 2010, 1:44 AM
Nice, like the night shots actually. No one's really done that yet. :D

From a while back..Start at this photo and go left there's a few there. http://s973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/?action=view&current=DSCF5139.jpg

Onn
May 24, 2010, 2:13 AM
From a while back..Start at this photo and go left there's a few there. http://s973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/?action=view&current=DSCF5139.jpg

Sorry, I meant to say "no one's really done up close and personal".

canadate
May 24, 2010, 2:20 AM
Sorry, I meant to say "no one's really done up close and personal".

No need to apologize. I've done that before too but it was way, way back. No where near as much steel as in the photos posted by NYCLuver. Good concept by the way NYCLuver. Like Onn said, no one does that too often. It's always great to see something different.

NYguy
May 24, 2010, 3:29 PM
May 22nd, 2010

(Yes I know its at night and you can hardly see much, but hey! I was there and decided to take a couple of pics!)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4632693500_64e75783e6_b.jpg


Actualy, you can see something. We rarely get night shots, but I believe if you squint your eyes a little, you get an idea of what the base will look like when illuminated at night, though obviously it will be much brighter.


A look inside the lobby...

AugustenBurroughs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/augustenburroughs/4628094789/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3396/4628094789_50e8d146c1_b.jpg

mwadswor
May 24, 2010, 4:30 PM
May 22nd, 2010

(Yes I know its at night and you can hardly see much, but hey! I was there and decided to take a couple of pics!)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4632693500_64e75783e6_b.jpg

Wow, at night it really does look like a borg cube :D

car2004
May 24, 2010, 6:32 PM
Nice, like the night shots actually. No one's really done that yet. :D

Very true. They look great. Would love to see the same idea from afar. May be from the water?

Acer1
May 25, 2010, 1:19 AM
Out of curiosity, what floor/level are they up to now with the concrete walls? That's probably the hardest part to see from the photo's these days.

NYguy
May 25, 2010, 2:00 AM
Matt Greenham (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattgreenham/4636757835/sizes/o/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4636757835_b13e17238d_o.jpg

NYguy
May 25, 2010, 2:04 AM
One more down...

http://www.observer.com/2010/real-estate/zuckerman-out-1-wtc-race
Zuckerman Unbound! Mort Out of 1 W.T.C. Race

By Eliot Brown
May 24, 2010

Mort Zuckerman is out of the running for the country's tallest building.

Boston Properties, the real estate firm which the Daily News publisher chairs, on Monday pulled out of a three-way race to buy a stake in One World Trade Center, according to multiple government officials and a real estate executive. Mr. Zuckerman leaves behind just two to battle for the giant glass skyscraper previously named the Freedom Tower, currently under construction downtown: Stephen Ross, chairman of the Related Companies and the developer of the Time Warner Center; and Douglas Durst, developer of the Bank of America Tower and 4 Times Square.

Boston's rationale for dropping out after five months of talks is not entirely clear, and in a letter to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which is developing the tower, Boston Properties senior vice president Robert Selsam was brief.

"Given the increasing scale of our own corporate activities, upon reflection we have decided it is best if we withdraw from further consideration," he wrote in a three-sentence letter. (Mr. Selsam declined to comment beyond the letter.)

The next steps for Mr. Durst and Mr. Ross are to pitch the authority's board of commissioners, where each are slated to give lengthy presentations to boost their bids, which call for about $100 million in investment in the tower. The authority is aiming to select one of the two in June.

The board has shown an intense interest in having influence in the selection, something of an unusual step at the agency, which, on smaller projects, typically chooses a winning bidder and then presents that choice to the board. The board is dominated by real estate executives, attorneys and others with political ties, split between appointments by governors of New Jersey and New York.

Earlier this month, in a meeting with board members, the Port Authority's staff raised some concerns about Boston Properties' financials in relation to the other two, according to a board member present. There was also discussion of narrowing the field to two bidders before the developers made presentations, according to that member, a concept that multiple people on the board disliked given that it would further narrow options.

A Port Authority spokesman, Stephen Sigmund, issued this statement:

Boston Properties has decided to withdraw from the Port Authority's selection process for an equity partner in One World Trade Center. We have very much appreciated their participation and the process has benefited from such a high-caliber organization. The Durst Organization and Related Companies remain active participants in the process and we look forward to a private sector developer playing a significant role in the long-term success of the building.



My bet is that it will go to Durst, with Conde Nast coming along as the 1 msf tenant - something that can't be overlooked.

Dac150
May 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
^^^ I second that; you just can’t ignore tenant potential of that size.

OneWorldTradeCenter
May 25, 2010, 5:02 PM
My bet is to Mr Durst, too. Nice shot of the site!

BStyles
May 25, 2010, 5:03 PM
Government Agencies, Vantone, and Condé Nast? That's the entire tower right there, leased and paid for. Not only will this show signs of the increase in office space demand, it will encourage other leaseholders to move downtown.

1msf is a lot of space.what do they do with all that, if this is a magazine publisher?