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Otie
Mar 18, 2012, 9:34 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7052/6989364331_488d35a1b9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikemcquaid/6989364331/)
One World Trade Center (Under Construction) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikemcquaid/6989364331/) by Mike McQuaid (http://www.flickr.com/people/mikemcquaid/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7067/6988863821_f9aafb65ab_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31079847@N05/6988863821/)
TOWER ONE WTC - WORLD FINANCIAL CENTER (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31079847@N05/6988863821/) by kevinh_photos (http://www.flickr.com/people/31079847@N05/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6989093659_05596d07e8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6989093659/)
Sunrise (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6989093659/) by pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/), on Flickr

The construction lights as configured give us a glimpse of how the tower will really look like once completed at night.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7065/6991737319_a4ea1d22c6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarashnat/6991737319/)
2012-03-17 at 19-35-17 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarashnat/6991737319/) by tarashnat (http://www.flickr.com/people/tarashnat/), on Flickr

NewYorkDominates
Mar 19, 2012, 12:17 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6845610696_886cb315ef_b.jpg


We never seemed to talk about the lighting of the World Trade Center,lets get a little in detail about it because I have some questions to ask?
When did the configuration begin?
When will it end?
The type of lighting?
Only a few I had right out of my head.

NYguy
Mar 19, 2012, 12:23 AM
NorcrossMedia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/norcrossmedia/6971063729/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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NewYorkDominates
Mar 19, 2012, 12:30 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6845610696_886cb315ef_b.jpg


We never seemed to talk about the lighting of the World Trade Center,lets get a little in detail about it because I have some questions to ask?
When did the configuration begin?
When will it end?
The type of lighting?
Only a few I had right out of my head.

Credit goes to tarashnat on Flickr

Roadcruiser1
Mar 19, 2012, 12:37 AM
Credit goes to tarashnat on Flickr

1) It began with the lighting for the Cardinal. It has been extended.

2) Don't know maybe for the rest of this week.

3) It's just construction lights lit up differently.

These are just construction lights. The real lights are not going to be installed till 2013.

Not really. Credits to WTC.COM.

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/18_31_dbox_SOL_wtc-icons_revised_May-2011.jpg
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/18_31_dbox_SPI_T1234_NIGHT_May-2011.jpg
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/13_36_dbox_99church_dusk_revised%5B1%5D.jpg

More from Dbox. Credits to them.

http://www.cgarchitect.com/content/posts/legacy/DBR/RISING_DBOX_004_sm.jpg

NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 19, 2012, 2:12 AM
Those night renderings have been posted 3 times ^^^^^ And everyone else is being accused of reposting too much.....

Hudson11
Mar 19, 2012, 2:13 AM
it should look something like it's predecessor only, you know... not cubical

Zapatan
Mar 19, 2012, 2:36 AM
That rendering is missing the massive towers that will rise in midtown:)

Roadcruiser1
Mar 19, 2012, 3:18 AM
Those night renderings have been posted 3 times ^^^^^ And everyone else is being accused of reposting too much.....

That is because the same question is being repeated over and over again. If people looked back maybe I won't have to repeat answering those questions over and over again. I think the World Trade Center buildings should have a Q&A thread. It would make it much easier.

Otie
Mar 19, 2012, 3:31 AM
A FAQ at the first post would work better.

NewYorkDominates
Mar 19, 2012, 3:52 AM
That is because the same question is being repeated over and over again. If people looked back maybe I won't have to repeat answering those questions over and over again. I think the World Trade Center buildings should have a Q&A thread. It would make it much easier.

Not once have we talked about lighting in this forum,and said we should go a little more into detail about because we just haven't talked about it.

1Boston
Mar 19, 2012, 3:57 AM
The construction lights as configured give us a glimpse of how the tower will really look like once completed at night.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7065/6991737319_a4ea1d22c6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarashnat/6991737319/)
2012-03-17 at 19-35-17 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarashnat/6991737319/) by tarashnat (http://www.flickr.com/people/tarashnat/), on Flickr

Does this picture make anyone else wish that there wasn't a big bunker at the bottom of 1wtc? I don't actually mind the base of 1wtc but now that you can sort of see what it would look like in this pic, it makes me kind of wish that they could've made the base look like this and still been just as safe.

Otie
Mar 19, 2012, 7:13 AM
^The mechanical plenum walls can get lit pretty nice if they decide to add some floodlights at the lower section of these walls.

Does this picture make anyone else wish that there wasn't a big bunker at the bottom of 1wtc? I don't actually mind the base of 1wtc but now that you can sort of see what it would look like in this pic, it makes me kind of wish that they could've made the base look like this and still been just as safe.

The podium will be the most beautiful section of the tower to look at once it gets completed, the current design calls for different sets of LEDs of varying colors to be installed just below the yet-to-come glass fins.

http://www.commercialobserver.com/files/2011/11/050-32.jpg

uaarkson
Mar 19, 2012, 7:49 AM
Holy shit!

NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 19, 2012, 10:53 AM
This is what I was referring to, won't it look odd with the small office lights meeting the mechanical floors?

Kevin Scott Koepke
Mar 19, 2012, 5:49 PM
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6233/6997151799_e1c2bd6edc.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6997151799/)
titans in the mist; 3/19/2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6997151799/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

Please do not repost, copy, or otherwise reproduce. Thank you.:banana:

Kevin Scott Koepke
Mar 19, 2012, 6:27 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6997424067_15a77ec56c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6997424067/)
remembering what was, and hoping for what will be. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6997424067/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

Please do not repost, copy, or otherwise reproduce. Thank you.:banana:

jd3189
Mar 19, 2012, 6:31 PM
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6233/6997151799_e1c2bd6edc.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6997151799/)
titans in the mist; 3/19/2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6997151799/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

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Epic.

SoaringSkylines
Mar 19, 2012, 6:59 PM
Is it just me or does this tower appear to get thinner the higher it gets? Like it looks slimmer at it's getting to the top..

Is it just because the glass hasn't been installed?... Or? Is it just an illusion or the angle?

Zapatan
Mar 19, 2012, 7:09 PM
^It looks like it gets thinner because it does get thinner, well, from most angles anyway, it is still a box from others.

1Boston
Mar 19, 2012, 7:12 PM
^The mechanical plenum walls can get lit pretty nice if they decide to add some floodlights at the lower section of these walls.



The podium will be the most beautiful section of the tower to look at once it gets completed, the current design calls for different sets of LEDs of varying colors to be installed just below the yet-to-come glass fins.

http://www.commercialobserver.com/files/2011/11/050-32.jpg

Yea i definitley was not saying that it won't be beautiful, but i might disagree with you about it being the most beautiful part. But who knows, when it's finished maybe ill agree with you, but from the renderings its not the number one for me, but it is up there. And i didn't know they were going to put lights behind the panels, that's gonna look so cool especially behind that foggy glass.

Otie
Mar 19, 2012, 7:34 PM
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Dac150
Mar 19, 2012, 8:30 PM
The steel erection for the Trans. Hub took me by surprise - wonderful to see!

I love the reflection off of 7 WTC . . .

NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 19, 2012, 9:10 PM
Wait they're starting the Hub? Like the place that looks like fish bones?

SearsTower
Mar 19, 2012, 9:15 PM
I remember in the old Twin Tower lobbies there were dozens of national flags from all over the world. That'd be cool if they did that with 1 WTC, does anyone know if that's planned?

JSsocal
Mar 19, 2012, 9:30 PM
I hope not, it looks tacky..

Roadcruiser1
Mar 19, 2012, 9:51 PM
I remember in the old Twin Tower lobbies there were dozens of national flags from all over the world. That'd be cool if they did that with 1 WTC, does anyone know if that's planned?

Nope. The lobby is supposed to look like this. Credits to the Port Authority and etc.

http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/freedom-tower-ny/images/13-lobby.jpg
http://0.tqn.com/d/architecture/1/0/-/i/freedomtowerbelow189000-hr.jpg
http://0.tqn.com/d/architecture/1/0/9/h/freedomtowerLobby_06-27-06.jpg

pnapp1
Mar 19, 2012, 9:51 PM
Is it just me or does this tower appear to get thinner the higher it gets? Like it looks slimmer at it's getting to the top..

Is it just because the glass hasn't been installed?... Or? Is it just an illusion or the angle?

Dimensionally it looks like the old WTC (box) from the North, South, East and West but from the North East, North West, South East and South West it is an Obelisk.

CarlosV
Mar 19, 2012, 11:06 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7135/6998225159_df097621c9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6998225159/)
DSC_0003 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6998225159/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

CoolCzech
Mar 19, 2012, 11:31 PM
I wish they had designed the lobby a bit more ornate and colorful. As it is, it's very cold and forbidding... really, like a marble mausoleum.

NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 19, 2012, 11:36 PM
Does anyone know the condition with the glass?

1Boston
Mar 19, 2012, 11:56 PM
I wish they had designed the lobby a bit more ornate and colorful. As it is, it's very cold and forbidding... really, like a marble mausoleum.

Yea i was thinking the same thing, it almost looks too perfect in structure and color that it loses it's human quality.

Otie
Mar 19, 2012, 11:59 PM
I wish they had designed the lobby a bit more ornate and colorful. As it is, it's very cold and forbidding... really, like a marble mausoleum.

The lobby is designed to highlight objects in the space rather than the space itself. You'll get it with these two renderings, first one doesn't have paintings, second one does.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6646364873_8bc6550a42_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6646364873/)
One World Trade Center | Lobby East Entrance (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6646364873/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6647623279_36df7e86da_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6647623279/)
One World Trade Center | Tenant escalator (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6647623279/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

marshall
Mar 20, 2012, 12:11 AM
I disagree, I think the lobby, will be quite impressive and highlight the structural features and the large modern art pieces will provide color and I'm sure there will be interactive things too, and signs for the Observation Deck on the top floors. Once completed and you see it in person, I am sure it will be quite nice and visually interesting! :cool:

Roadcruiser1
Mar 20, 2012, 12:12 AM
The lobby is designed to highlight objects in the space rather than the space itself. You'll get it with these two renderings, first one doesn't have paintings, second one does.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6646364873_8bc6550a42_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6646364873/)
One World Trade Center | Lobby East Entrance (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6646364873/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6647623279_36df7e86da_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6647623279/)
One World Trade Center | Tenant escalator (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6647623279/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

Still Otie the lobby for the Twin Towers looked much better.

http://0.tqn.com/d/manhattan/1/0/f/E/flickr-NoriakiGotoh-wtc-lobby.jpg
http://www.nerdylorrin.net/jerry/politics/911/PA-Pentagon-FreedomTwr/Before--WTC-LobbyAtMezzanineLevelIs7StoriesHigh--LawrenceAMartin.jpg

RockMont
Mar 20, 2012, 12:22 AM
When the new one is finished, the finished product will look better than the conceptual shot. It'll look just as good as the old one.

jd3189
Mar 20, 2012, 12:23 AM
I remember in the old Twin Tower lobbies there were dozens of national flags from all over the world. That'd be cool if they did that with 1 WTC, does anyone know if that's planned?

They could do that,but not in the exact same way. The lobby will have to be lively to help the fact that it is pretty bland.

sterlippo1
Mar 20, 2012, 12:24 AM
i get why but it would be nice if this gorgeous structure didn't have to be always compared to the Twins, but, i guess it's inevitable

NYguy
Mar 20, 2012, 12:57 AM
edenpictures (http://www.flickr.com/photos/edenpictures/6992837213/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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NewYorkDominates
Mar 20, 2012, 2:00 AM
I wish that those big things are all displays,after all we're in 2012.Give it a futuristic look.

SoaringSkylines
Mar 20, 2012, 2:29 AM
I personally am a big fan of the interior lobby of 1WTC. It has that "modern and conservative" look to it.

Kevin Scott Koepke
Mar 20, 2012, 3:28 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7276/6998843567_0956a47058.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6998843567/)
lower manhattan; 3/19/2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6998843567/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

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Kevin Scott Koepke
Mar 20, 2012, 4:11 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/6852818436_bbb1c97e50.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6852818436/)
titans of new york; 3/19/2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/6852818436/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

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mac78130
Mar 20, 2012, 1:03 PM
Chadbourne & Parke WTC deal is "dead"

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/chabourne_parke_wtc_deal_is_dead_0Ui2O7VSe66AQXXay4rA7L?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Business (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/chabourne_parke_wtc_deal_is_dead_0Ui2O7VSe66AQXXay4rA7L?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Business)

NYguy
Mar 20, 2012, 1:57 PM
Taken from www.wtc.com

(Joel Woolhead, March 12, 2012)


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/142189982/large.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/142189982/original.jpg

yankeesfan1000
Mar 20, 2012, 2:49 PM
Chadbourne & Parke WTC deal is "dead"

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/chabourne_parke_wtc_deal_is_dead_0Ui2O7VSe66AQXXay4rA7L?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Business (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/chabourne_parke_wtc_deal_is_dead_0Ui2O7VSe66AQXXay4rA7L?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Business)

Not all bad news though. Chadbourne has to move somewhere.

Chabourne & Parke WTC deal is ‘dead’ (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/chabourne_parke_wtc_deal_is_dead_0Ui2O7VSe66AQXXay4rA7L?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Business)
By STEVE CUOZZO
Last Updated: 12:42 AM, March 20, 2012
Posted: 11:49 PM, March 19, 2012

"...The reversal was surprising because the clock’s ticking on Chadbourne, which must leave behind 300,000 square feet at 30 Rockefeller Plaza in 2014, when Deloitte will take its space."

meh_cd
Mar 20, 2012, 3:33 PM
Damn. Wonder if they took a deal with Silverstein or decided to go the Hudson Yards route?

Ed007Toronto
Mar 20, 2012, 4:11 PM
Great pics!

Dac150
Mar 20, 2012, 4:21 PM
Not all bad news though. Chadbourne has to move somewhere.

Exactly - this is actually good news because it gives other projects an opportunity to land a tenant.

NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 20, 2012, 4:40 PM
Can't wait to see what happens next

599GTO
Mar 20, 2012, 5:07 PM
Ewww the lobby of the twins looked so tacky and unpleasant. Looked too Donald Trump. The lobby for 1 WTC looks clean and modern. I love it.

pnapp1
Mar 20, 2012, 5:11 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AocOs2VCAAAUa42.jpg:large

Image via: WTC Progress: Twitter

NewYorkDominates
Mar 20, 2012, 5:27 PM
Yea,the old WTC lobby looked average and with that green carpeting..no way near the look of 1WTC.

MadGnome
Mar 20, 2012, 5:38 PM
I use to like modern lobbies until I went into the Woolworth building. It was like the original Queen Mary compared to the sterile floating cities of today. I've never seen anything that compared with that beautiful old woodwork.

HyperPower
Mar 20, 2012, 5:56 PM
Buildings from the past were built for quality, buildings of today are built with the mindset of stretching ever dollar to its max. It's a sign of the times we are living in,...very cheap. :babyeat:

Roadcruiser1
Mar 20, 2012, 6:44 PM
You people are going to wish that One World Trade Center's lobby was different once it's complete and opened. The lobbies of the Twin Towers and old buildings before them received a lot of natural light including the sun, but One World Trade Center will get natural light. In the end it would probably look more like walking into a windowless laboratory, because a laboratory is sterile and painted white.

Here. Credits to Otie for One World Trade Center lobby renderings. These pictures are taken at roughly the same angle.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6646364873_8bc6550a42_z.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/World_Trade_Center_lobby%2C_08-19-2000.png

I often suggested that before they built the lobby they should have instead designed it with bomb proof glass going 20 floors up. It would have been more attractive and would have done the same job as the concrete base would do now but look inviting, but no one listens.

marshall
Mar 20, 2012, 7:19 PM
Again, reserve judgement until the real thing is actually completed..I'll grant you it doesn't look quite as inviting as the lobby of the Twin Towers, but once finished, I'm sure it will be magnificent. The walls won't be all sterile while marble looking either, they will have colorful paintings and artwork, and some light will come in, and there will be some large potted trees like in the old lobbies too, I'll bet.

1Boston
Mar 20, 2012, 8:11 PM
I agree with roadcruiser, it wont be as inviting and it will be very sterile. I feel like its gonna be that kind of futuristic place where everything is perfect and the government is watching your every move. But i think the rest of the building makes up for the lobby.

sw5710
Mar 20, 2012, 8:31 PM
Still 1,223' 6''
Did anyone forget the history at this location. There will be changes that have come about. Not the same thing. Warm or cold!

NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 20, 2012, 9:10 PM
https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/?ui=2&ik=8e21716ff9&view=att&th=13631020994909d5&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=f_h01wc3670&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P9MH8uUIBj0b-HQf8gW7-f-&sadet=1332277902333&sads=FmYLEULH8Cd1QiuUdoLLn4Ta6dc&sadssc=1

Once again, credits to Carlos. (If you want me to take down your property, I will.)

Ryan81
Mar 20, 2012, 9:35 PM
Buildings from the past were built for quality, buildings of today are built with the mindset of stretching ever dollar to its max. It's a sign of the times we are living in,...very cheap. :babyeat:

In addition, the buildings from the Era in which Woolworth was built were much less complex in terms of Code requirements and regulations. Compared with buildings from the past, there is an exorbitant amount of money spent for compliance with these requirements which cuts into the budget for furnishings, etc. A building in today's era also requires a plethora of additional MEP and telecommunications features that a building like Woolworth didn't. All things considered (with exception to perhaps ornamentation), buildings of today are much more complex.

Rizzo
Mar 21, 2012, 2:05 AM
I often suggested that before they built the lobby they should have instead designed it with bomb proof glass going 20 floors up. It would have been more attractive and would have done the same job as the concrete base would do now but look inviting, but no one listens.

You are implying the highest level of ballistics rated glass here. I've specified lesser ratings, but I should warn it's extremely expensive glass. Definitely possible to do a whole lobby,but the costs would be incredible. And it's not just the glass. I have a couple 1 square foot samples and they are waaay heavier than standard glazing. So the framing for this glass would have to be substantial adding more cost. Also, the framing tends to be the weakest point....so beef that up...plus the thick glass panels and you'd still have alot of obstruction when all is said and done.

Chapelo
Mar 21, 2012, 2:27 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7052/6989364331_488d35a1b9_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikemcquaid/6989364331/)
One World Trade Center (Under Construction) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikemcquaid/6989364331/) by Mike McQuaid (http://www.flickr.com/people/mikemcquaid/), on Flickr

Kingofthehill
Mar 21, 2012, 4:26 AM
I had the pleasure of seeing this building several times within the past week, and it is a real monster. You can see it from pretty much everywhere in NYC and nearby NJ.

SoaringSkylines
Mar 21, 2012, 4:30 AM
Yo guys, I have a question about the spire, please!

Is the spire/mast/antenna already made up now and is waiting on the building to top out? Or is it like still not manufactured yet?

Otie
Mar 21, 2012, 4:47 AM
The antenna steel sections are already fabricated since a year ago or so, these are being stored at the ADF Group shop in Quebec. Don't have any information about the radome enclosure.

hunser
Mar 21, 2012, 1:36 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7001905847_75a63f12d9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/7001905847/)
Ship in the fog (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/7001905847/) von pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/) auf Flickr


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6041/6999296013_6ce04e9004_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6999296013/)
Unbenannt (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/6999296013/) von pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/) auf Flickr

10023
Mar 21, 2012, 1:58 PM
^ Those are great. First one seems a little bit tilted but the composition with the freighter is nice.

car2004
Mar 21, 2012, 2:32 PM
To Hunser, GREAT pictures! You can really see this as the monster it is!

Does anyone know how tall this is so far, and just how much more it has to go? Anyone believe it is going to finish sooner than said?

NYguy
Mar 21, 2012, 3:22 PM
thebiblioholic (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thebiblioholic/7002021737/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/7002021737_a0b70f8d80_b.jpg



jhillen69 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23465722@N00/6856880998/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7042/6856880998_1a08750416_b.jpg



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7042/6856880998_9cd47d78ec_o.jpg



coach.stokes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nc_usatour/7001929429/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7250/6855817750_b3b73f42a2_b.jpg



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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7001951841_b4a569d2cc_o.jpg

hunser
Mar 21, 2012, 4:08 PM
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6033/7001929429_f1e0cfa834_b.jpg


Towering above them all.

To Hunser, GREAT pictures! You can really see this as the monster it is!

Does anyone know how tall this is so far, and just how much more it has to go? Anyone believe it is going to finish sooner than said?

1,223' 6'' right now. Parapet height is 1373'. Topping out roof should be around late May / early June.

Chapelo
Mar 21, 2012, 4:38 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7042/6855991648_8c7d565e93_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianychan/6855991648/)
Week 11/52: 1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianychan/6855991648/) by BrianYChan (http://www.flickr.com/people/brianychan/), on Flickr

Here's an interesting map for Circle-Line Cruises that shows a completed 1WTC.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7127/6850716384_8ff94906c9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rodhunt/6850716384/)
101 New York Sights Map for Circle Line Sightseeing Cruises (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rodhunt/6850716384/) by Rod Hunt Illustration (http://www.flickr.com/people/rodhunt/), on Flickr

dchan
Mar 21, 2012, 5:44 PM
^ Hey! They put my old high school on that map. Neat!

sterlippo1
Mar 21, 2012, 5:44 PM
the best page in the whole thread for pictures, those were absolutely stunning:worship::tup: thanks NYGuy and Hunser for posting

Mikeaveli2682
Mar 21, 2012, 6:24 PM
Uh oh.

http://abovethelaw.com/2012/03/will-chadbourne-parke-wind-up-homeless/#more-144864

NYYskyline
Mar 21, 2012, 6:58 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7001951841_b4a569d2cc_o.jpg

where was this takeing from

SoaringSkylines
Mar 21, 2012, 7:07 PM
where was this takeing from

Richmond County Bank Ballpark in Staten Island, NY.

sterlippo1
Mar 21, 2012, 7:20 PM
where was this takeing from

If you have not taken the Staten Island ferry to Manhattan, put it on your must do list.............plus it's free and parking is $5 i believe but on saturday it is easy to find a space right on the street a little further up from the ballpark and pay nothing

NYYskyline
Mar 21, 2012, 7:29 PM
I have. its just been six years since I have been the the ferri. Im from Staten Island, and the last time I been to Stanten Island Advance ball park it had a hole in the sky.

crewex
Mar 21, 2012, 8:00 PM
The antenna steel sections are already fabricated since a year ago or so, these are being stored at the ADF Group shop in Quebec. Don't have any information about the radome enclosure.

Otie
I thought the Radome enclosure had been scratched? We had pages and pages about it not working out, did the petition work?

marshall
Mar 21, 2012, 8:34 PM
Any word on when they are going to start putting the glass on the top half? I know high winds kept a lot of work to a minimum from Dec-Feb, but just wondering since we are fairly close to the steel topping out, when they will catch up with the glass. It looks like it's been stuck at about the 60th floor since last year.

RockMont
Mar 21, 2012, 9:00 PM
Towering above them all.



1,223' 6'' right now. Parapet height is 1373'. Topping out roof should be around late May / early June.



150 feet doesn't seem like much, when you consider how tall this thing will be and how tall it already is, and how far it has come. I'm surprised it would be that long, until it is topped out.

NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 21, 2012, 9:14 PM
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IntoTheLens827
Mar 21, 2012, 9:19 PM
150 feet doesn't seem like much, when you consider how tall this thing will be and how tall it already is, and how far it has come. I'm surprised it would be that long, until it is topped out.
Yea, 150 Feet does seem like nothing now. I realized that last night.
Anyway, They built the Empire State Building & the original WTC Twin Towers Alot Faster! It took a fast year for The Empire State Building. For the Twin Towers, Steel construction of the North Tower started in Aug of 1968 & it Top-Out on Dec 23, 1970. This tower is taking close to 3 years now. Steel construction started for this tower on Aug 12, 2009. (Well, for the perimeter Jumbo Beams that is above Grade). I did forget that we did have a few bad winters & a Huricane that we had to deal with. Oh yea, I also forgot about the 2 month Delay from the end of Nov to the end of Jan sometime. So yea, I am sorry... I just really thought the tower was going to be Topped out for sure by this point in Time. I thought it would be Toped out in Jan or Feb sometime. I did say that in one of my videos on youtube that it will be at the roof in Feb, March, or April. I feel like a idiot now for saying that on my videos. Oh well, we can't do anything about it now. Crap happens. I am just glad that we can see the Tower from all over the city now! :tup: We just have to hang in there & just wait alittle longer now. Trust me, I can't wait for her to get to the roof & for them to add the Antenna. Before we know it, she'll be at FULL HEIGHT! :D :cheers:

Domamania
Mar 21, 2012, 10:28 PM
150 feet doesn't seem like much, when you consider how tall this thing will be and how tall it already is, and how far it has come. I'm surprised it would be that long, until it is topped out.

Well just think of it this way. The Base is 187.6 feet right, now this tower only has about 150 feet left to the roof right. So in conclusion this tower only has about 2/3 of the base left to reach main structor height. .

Now a quick question, My Birthday is December 27 and I want to visit the tower for that day to treat my self. So I was wondering how far in contruction will the tower be by then? Like is the spire going to be almost full assembeled on the tower? and how high will the glass cladding be by then? Thank you so much.....

QUEENSNYMAN
Mar 21, 2012, 10:58 PM
Yea, 150 Feet does seem like nothing now. I realized that last night.
Anyway, They built the Empire State Building & the original WTC Twin Towers Alot Faster! It took a fast year for The Empire State Building. For the Twin Towers, Steel construction of the North Tower started in Aug of 1968 & it Top-Out on Dec 23, 1970. This tower is taking close to 3 years now. Steel construction started for this tower on Aug 12, 2009. (Well, for the perimeter Jumbo Beams that is above Grade). I did forget that we did have a few bad winters & a Huricane that we had to deal with. Oh yea, I also forgot about the 2 month Delay from the end of Nov to the end of Jan sometime. So yea, I am sorry... I just really thought the tower was going to be Topped out for sure by this point in Time. I thought it would be Toped out in Jan or Feb sometime. I did say that in one of my videos on youtube that it will be at the roof in Feb, March, or April. I feel like a idiot now for saying that on my videos. Oh well, we can't do anything about it now. Crap happens. I am just glad that we can see the Tower from all over the city now! :tup: We just have to hang in there & just wait alittle longer now. Trust me, I can't wait for her to get to the roof & for them to add the Antenna. Before we know it, she'll be at FULL HEIGHT! :D :cheers:

Hey Greg I to thought this baby would be topped out by now (March) oh well. Someone once told me patience is a virtue:rolleyes:

PZelda
Mar 21, 2012, 11:08 PM
Not really a big deal to be making this observation... I just noticed that on the WTC Progress webcam, they moved the webcam upwards a bit. So now you can't really see the base anymore - the bottom of the cam starts at the 20th floor (where they have the boarded up windows). Awesome! :)

1Boston
Mar 21, 2012, 11:09 PM
Now a quick question, My Birthday is December 27 and I want to visit the tower for that day to treat my self. So I was wondering how far in contruction will the tower be by then? Like is the spire going to be almost full assembeled on the tower? and how high will the glass cladding be by then? Thank you so much.....

Im just assuming based off of what people have said before but i do not think the spire will be close to being half assembled. As for the cladding, i think it could just finishing off or it will be done by then, that is, if it starts to pick up after the tower is finished, which i assume it will.

Roadcruiser1
Mar 22, 2012, 12:12 AM
Well just think of it this way. The Base is 187.6 feet right, now this tower only has about 150 feet left to the roof right. So in conclusion this tower only has about 2/3 of the base left to reach main structor height. .

Now a quick question, My Birthday is December 27 and I want to visit the tower for that day to treat my self. So I was wondering how far in contruction will the tower be by then? Like is the spire going to be almost full assembeled on the tower? and how high will the glass cladding be by then? Thank you so much.....

Im just assuming based off of what people have said before but i do not think the spire will be close to being half assembled. As for the cladding, i think it could just finishing off or it will be done by then, that is, if it starts to pick up after the tower is finished, which i assume it will.

Actually the topping off is in May. As soon as that is done they are going to install the mast ASAP. The mast will be completed in October and November and the exterior glass work will already have been completed way before that including the base glass. By December 2012 One World Trade Center would already be completed except for the interior work which will take a bit longer. That is why the opening date of this building would be April, 2013, but by late December when the ball drops for 2013 the building would already be complete except for the inside.

Roadcruiser1
Mar 22, 2012, 12:20 AM
Actually the Port Authority should try to get Chadbourne and Parke to lease room in either Two or Three World Trade Center. They are the ones that desperately needs tenants or else they won't be built, and what a better company to take room in them then Chadbourne and Parke.

Dac150
Mar 22, 2012, 12:42 AM
Actually the Port Authority should try to get Chadbourne and Parke to lease room in either Two or Three World Trade Center. They are the ones that desperately needs tenants or else they won't be built, and what a better company to take room in them then Chadbourne and Parke.

The PA has no obligation to do that . . . That's up to Silverstein.

NewYorkDominates
Mar 22, 2012, 12:45 AM
Where is my daily dose of the Carlos Cam?

jd3189
Mar 22, 2012, 12:51 AM
The PA has no obligation to do that . . . That's up to Silverstein.

Well, Silverstein should be taking advantage of this. I rather start building 2 WTC now, since it's the one most affected by the lack of tenants and is the second tallest building in the complex. 3 WTC can wait. The skyline will be full just with 2 WTC alone, along with 1 WTC and 4 WTC.

alan88
Mar 22, 2012, 1:07 AM
Any word on when they are going to start putting the glass on the top half? I know high winds kept a lot of work to a minimum from Dec-Feb, but just wondering since we are fairly close to the steel topping out, when they will catch up with the glass. It looks like it's been stuck at about the 60th floor since last year.

Benson is putting in the anchors now and curtain wall should restart mid April according to project meeting today

Alan

RockMont
Mar 22, 2012, 1:21 AM
Yea, 150 Feet does seem like nothing now. I realized that last night.
Anyway, They built the Empire State Building & the original WTC Twin Towers Alot Faster! It took a fast year for The Empire State Building. For the Twin Towers, Steel construction of the North Tower started in Aug of 1968 & it Top-Out on Dec 23, 1970. This tower is taking close to 3 years now. Steel construction started for this tower on Aug 12, 2009. (Well, for the perimeter Jumbo Beams that is above Grade). I did forget that we did have a few bad winters & a Huricane that we had to deal with. Oh yea, I also forgot about the 2 month Delay from the end of Nov to the end of Jan sometime. So yea, I am sorry... I just really thought the tower was going to be Topped out for sure by this point in Time. I thought it would be Toped out in Jan or Feb sometime. I did say that in one of my videos on youtube that it will be at the roof in Feb, March, or April. I feel like a idiot now for saying that on my videos. Oh well, we can't do anything about it now. Crap happens. I am just glad that we can see the Tower from all over the city now! :tup: We just have to hang in there & just wait alittle longer now. Trust me, I can't wait for her to get to the roof & for them to add the Antenna. Before we know it, she'll be at FULL HEIGHT! :D :cheers:



I'd like to think that the reason this one took so long, is because of, the complexity of making it resistant to attack, or more indestructible. Of course, it is unlikely to be attacked again. Now as for the inactivity from November to January, is that because of the winds that blow at higher speeds, because of higher altitude? That of course is much more acceptible than the damn politics and the bureaucratic bullshit. That should be long gone by now. That is what held the damn thing up years ago. However if not for that, we would have ended up with that ridiculous travesty that Libeskind tried to pull off.

NewYorker2009
Mar 22, 2012, 1:37 AM
I'd like to think that the reason this one took so long, is because of, the complexity of making it resistant to attack, or more indestructible. Of course, it is unlikely to be attacked again. Now as for the inactivity from November to January, is that because of the winds that blow at higher speeds, because of higher altitude? That of course is much more acceptible than the damn politics and the bureaucratic bullshit. That should be long gone by now. That is what held the damn thing up years ago. However if not for that, we would have ended up with that ridiculous travesty that Libeskind tried to pull off.

Well Tower One took literally forever for the substructure to fully reach street level before the superstructure finally began in August 2009. The Tower is being built over the PATH tracks so that really caused several delays. Yeah if it weren't for all the politics and bureaucratic nonsense the project could have been done by now. In 2008 it wasn't known when anything would get done because everything was over budget and no one knew what the hell they were doing back then. The problem is the proposal for the site was a master plan of 5 new Towers to be built and not for one second did anyone consider that building too much office space at one time or the overall costs would be a cause for concern due to the recession. Only later did they try and cut back on costs wherever they could but that obviously hasn't helped since One World Trade is costing about $4 Billion, which is ridiculous. I'm just glad Tower One & Tower 4 started when they did otherwise we would have nothing by now. Libeskind's design for Tower One would gave been changed regardless of politics and bureaucracy. His design was unsafe, challenging, and just did not fit New York at all. I guess you have to give the NYPD some credit too for deciding to push the Tower further away from West Street and wanted the base to be bomb proof.

NewYorkSkyline117
Mar 22, 2012, 1:54 AM
Benson is putting in the anchors now and curtain wall should restart mid April according to project meeting today

Alan

Why does glass have to wait so long?

MadGnome
Mar 22, 2012, 2:09 AM
Why does glass have to wait so long?

It doesn't. But there's no reason to rush it since the tenants won't be moving in till the thing is fully functional.

gramsjdg
Mar 22, 2012, 2:46 AM
Only later did they try and cut back on costs wherever they could but that obviously hasn't helped since One World Trade is costing about $4 Billion, which is ridiculous.

It is ridiculous, maybe even criminal. Even in the US, they should have been able to build WTC-1 as tall as the Burj (2 billion) for that much money.:hell:

Rizzo
Mar 22, 2012, 2:58 AM
It is ridiculous, maybe even criminal. Even in the US, they should have been able to build WTC-1 as tall as the Burj (2 billion) for that much money.:hell:

Right because US construction workers are paid the same amount as the South Asian workers that received $6.75 per day on Burj Khalifa. That's less than US minimum wage (per hour)....and even far less than the $30+/hour that concrete and ironworkers make on the WTC. Please tell me you were aware of this before you call WTC construction costs a crime. I agree there's probably some waste, but billions spent is justifiable.