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[colemonkee]

^ Base cladding won't start for some time. What you see there is structural concrete between the two super-columns at the corner.

[Onn]

^ Base cladding won't start for some time. What you see there is structural concrete between the two super-columns at the corner.

No one said that at all, in fact we haven't heard anything about base cladding. GreenwichBoy (WNY) seems to think it might be going forward soon....

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11213&d=1287577143

The Earthcam does appear to show some cladding on site, but I could be wrong.

[Pbellamy]

I'd go look but it's bit chilly out there today ;-)

[Onn]

I'd go look but it's bit chilly out there today ;-)

Well it doesn’t look like they are putting anything up, just possibly a piece of cladding sitting there. You're good for now.

[Pbellamy]

Well it doesn’t look like they are putting anything up, just possibly a piece of cladding sitting there. You're good for now.

It does make we wonder where all those trucks with cladding are hiding? They left Portland about 10 days ago... Must be hanging about on the Jersey side of the GW Bridge somewhere...

[Onn]

It does make we wonder where all those trucks with cladding are hiding? They left Portland about 10 days ago... Must be hanging about on the Jersey side of the GW Bridge somewhere...

I would say the cladding is probably going to some kind of holding facility in New York or New Jersey. They probably have to sort it all out and what needs to go first and last...that could take some time. And of course we don't even know what's going on with the base cladding, that could be coming too.

[Angel In The City]

The Earthcam does appear to show some cladding on site, but I could be wrong.

Where do you see it?

[Innsertnamehere]

At which day there startet with the fassade.
does anybody nowes??
Is it in this month??

its supposed to start today...

[Onn]

Where do you see it?

In yellow styrofoam, right next to the yellow backhoe or small crane. Should be pretty clear.

[Don098]

Oh my, I think Installation of the Curtain Wall has finally started!

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7589/800x600u.jpg

:) :banana: :cheers: :notacrook: :whip:


No, that's not cladding at all. That's a concrete layer on top of those yellow I-beams they've inserted between all the corner gaps. That corner has looked like that for weeks now :koko:

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

At which day there startet with the fassade.
does anybody nowes??
Is it in this month??

it should start from today to the 25th

[Zensteeldude]

The first of the curtain wall sections for the office floors are sitting in a bonded warehouse somewhere in the tri-state area. (I don't know exactly where.)

The cladding for the base is still weeks if not months away. They only just started installing the brackets to support it. (That's what the pic that GB took that Onn posted shows, all those little white squares are stainless steel brackets.)

Probably the last part of the base cladding to go up is the very bottom, for two reasions. One it's supported by the protection walls, that are not up yet. and Two they really don't want to enclose the lobby just yet, it would really hinder access.

[Zensteeldude]

I understand. Shame there isn't anything you could share. Just a list of the elevations of each floor would be a bigger help than anything else. I mean, the rest of the info I can solve for based on publicly available info, plus a bit of logic. I mean, this one bit of info seems to be out there given Culwalla has it in metric in his diagrams, and random people keep shouting out exact heights.



Yeah, that is precisely the kind of info I need.

The base is 186' 8" high (20th floor, first office floor) All the office floors are 13' 4".

There, that'll get ya to the 88th floor.:)

(The drawings are in my gun safe and I'm too tired to dig them out tonight.)

[NYguy]

http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2010/oct/18/world-trade-center-rises-top-towers-and-trip-subway-sandwich-shop/

The World Trade Center Rises: View From the Top and a Trip to the Sandwich Shop

Monday, October 18, 2010
By Stephen Nessen

By mid-October the beams of One World Trade Center have reached the 42nd floor. The workers are getting as much work done as possible before the winter comes with the biting winds that make progress at that height very difficult. The Port Authority says workers are averaging about a floor a week as the fall turns to winter, when they expect progress to slow down.

http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/worker-watching-empire-state-building.jpg
The Empire State and Chrysler Building can be seen from the 40th floor.

http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/worker-balancing-on-beams.jpg
A worker balances on a beam, which will be part of the 42nd floor.

http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/worker-at-world-trade-center-site-2.jpg


http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/subway-sandwich-shop.jpg
The Subway sandwich shop opened in August and does a brisk lunch business. It will rise as the floors rise.
One worker said he often had no other eating options, "I don't like it, but sometimes it's the only thing you got up here.

http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/lunch-break.jpg


http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/worker-on-top-floor-of-world-trade-center.jpg


http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/concrete-worker.jpg


http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/floor-with-no-concrete.jpg


http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/worker-laying-pipes.jpg


http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/waiting-for-elevator.jpg


http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/outside-1-world-trade-center.jpg


http://parmenides.wnyc.org/media/photologue/photos/entrance-to-work-site.jpg

[Zensteeldude]

Most useless bit of trivia in the history of this tower: the corners chamfer (widen) 1.01 inches for every foot in elevation of the building.

Anyone else looking to model this thing (and couldn't figure it out mathematically like I did) will probably find that extremely useful. See, if all of the floors are identical, you don't have to worry about a weird unit of measurement like that, you just take the chamfer per floor and scale that up the tower (which conveniently can be automated), which is pretty much what I did with the white floors below. With the gray ones, since they all have random heights (BIG THANKS to my info hookup, you know who you are), I apply the factor calculated above to figure out the right angle, as shown in the 2nd image. The net result: A an edge mathematically accurate by 1/1000 of an inch.

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5082/testn101.th.jpg (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/testn101.jpg/) http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/762/testn102.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/i/testn102.jpg/) http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6229/testn103.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/testn103.jpg/)

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My GS model may be hight challenged but it makes up for it with detail.:D
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5100759020_bd3ea287c9_b.jpg

[NYguy]

I like this one a lot, it reminds me of old pictures of original WTC construction...

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/908513.jpg

[Zensteeldude]

That is a nice one NYGuy.

Before ya know it that'll be an office worker looking out the window.:)

[2-TOWERS]

also shows the sheer size of the verticle column.......

[Zensteeldude]

That's just a W14x ***, a relativly small column section compaired to the columns lower down in the building.

The "jumbo columns" are W14x730 with a 6 inch thick plate welded to both sides.

(I have no idea what column line the column in the pic is on, but I think it's a W14x650. Actually I know exactly what it is, I just don't want to say.)

[guyFROMtheBURGH]

hey zensteeldude, are the w-size columns going to stay the same size to the top?

by the way...i'm currently a civil engineering major...those columns are awesome!

[STR]

Woohoo, I might have this thing done by tomorrow.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/165/testn107.jpg http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8105/testn108.jpg

[Skyscrapers144]

WOW STR!!!!!!!!! Amazzzing!!! Btw how do you make those models??? I only know how to make paper models but not those models??? ^^

[NYC4Life]

Excellent model, you should work for Silverstein Properties ;-)

[Skyscrapers144]

http://www.observer.com/files/full/silverstein%20and%20silver.jpg
Sheldon Silver and Larry Silverstein.

Oh they think they have a nice model eh? :previous: Well here's my New World Trade Center Complex model:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5128/dsc02096p.jpg

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[Zapatan]

Lookin' good :cool:


Random thought, The building without the base is 1182 feet tall, so if we were to do a calculation of when the flat and tapered sides are even it should be about 777 feet. Which is about where the skylobby is, it will make the perfect octogon just past the roof of 7 WTC. The flat sides will get 10 feet narrower every 59 feet about after that, so at the highest office floor, level 90 it should be about 40 feet wide, right below the mechanical band.


I wrote this up just out of curiosity, about how wide the non tapered sides are as they go down the building.

1368- completely tapered
1309- flat sides are 10 feet wide each (103rd/104th floor)
Observatory 1266' (about 17 feet wide)
Restaurant floors (1235 to 1255) about 23-18 feet wide
1191- 30' (92nd floor)
1132- 40' (90th floor)
1073- 50' (86th/87th floor)
1014- 60' (82nd floor)
955- 70' (77th floor)
896- 80' (72nd/73rd floor)
837- 90' (68th floor)
778- 100' (64th floor skylobby?)


Guess I was off by a foot but it's probably because it's 59 feet plus a few centimeters ;)

[Skyscrapers144]

Lookin' good :cool:


Random thought, The building without the base is 1182 feet tall, so if we were to do a calculation of when the flat and tapered sides are even it should be about 777 feet. Which is about where the skylobby is, it will make the perfect octogon just past the roof of 7 WTC. The flat sides will get 10 feet narrower every 59 feet about after that, so at the highest office floor, level 90 it should be about 40 feet wide, right below the mechanical band.


I wrote this up just out of curiosity, about how wide the non tapered sides are as they go down the building.

1368- completely tapered
1309- flat sides are 10 feet wide each (103rd/104th floor)
Observatory 1266' (about 17 feet wide)
Restaurant floors (1235 to 1255) about 23-18 feet wide
1191- 30' (92nd floor)
1132- 40' (90th floor)
1073- 50' (86th/87th floor)
1014- 60' (82nd floor)
955- 70' (77th floor)
896- 80' (72nd/73rd floor)
837- 90' (68th floor)
778- 100' (64th floor skylobby?)


Guess I was off by a foot but it's probably because it's 59 feet plus a few centimeters ;)
Thanks! Btw you Mexican? So am i! lol

[Zerton]

Woohoo, I might have this thing done by tomorrow.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/165/testn107.jpg http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8105/testn108.jpg

Very cool stuff!

[STR]

^Yeah, we really haven't had a good look at the upper level air intakes. The plans suggest what I put up there, plus it was really easy to do, and the drawings and renderings conflict with each other.

Well, I doubt they'll be black stripes like I did there. I already made them more intake-y, but that was just a test shot to see if everything worked right. At this point, the building exterior is largely done (just the base and the roof junk is left) and a little bit of interior work (basic building core, some simulated elevators. I don't suppose the elevator stacking diagram has been posted?

EDIT: Here's one last shot until I finish it, which will probably be tomorrow (no promises).
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[Innsertnamehere]

str, you should really go over to the sketchup subforum.... even if you don't use sketchup! it would be cool to see your other works.

[NYguy]

Here's one last shot until I finish it, which will probably be tomorrow (no promises).

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/55/wowhe.jpg

Beautiful...


http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5128/dsc02096p.jpg



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http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5444/dsc02104c.jpg

Love it...:tup:

[meh_cd]

^Yeah, we really haven't had a good look at the upper level air intakes. The plans suggest what I put up there, plus it was really easy to do, and the drawings and renderings conflict with each other.

Well, I doubt they'll be black stripes like I did there. I already made them more intake-y, but that was just a test shot to see if everything worked right. At this point, the building exterior is largely done (just the base and the roof junk is left) and a little bit of interior work (basic building core, some simulated elevators. I don't suppose the elevator stacking diagram has been posted?

EDIT: Here's one last shot until I finish it, which will probably be tomorrow (no promises).
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Looking good! ;)

[Obey]

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/55/wowhe.jpg

This is amazing...

[Continental180]

so much for cladding to start on oct 20th.

[Jay in Cowtown]

Is the globe fountain from old WTC going to be put back once the memorial is finished, or stay in Battery Park?

[JACKinBeantown]

Lots of talented people on this forum. I'm impressed.

[dchan]

so much for cladding to start on oct 20th.

Technically, it already has started.

The cladding for the base is still weeks if not months away. They only just started installing the brackets to support it. (That's what the pic that GB took that Onn posted shows, all those little white squares are stainless steel brackets.)

Probably the last part of the base cladding to go up is the very bottom, for two reasions. One it's supported by the protection walls, that are not up yet. and Two they really don't want to enclose the lobby just yet, it would really hinder access.

[Pbellamy]

I was just down there. They've definitely started but I expect a lot of preparation work to be taking place before we see some glass...

Look at the corner of floor 20 on the South East corner... Definitely activity going on there!

[STR]

Nevermind they family of cube people in the far corner.

Or the fact that I turned the corner glass into drywall for a second there...
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3770/cubepeople.jpg

[Zensteeldude]

hey zensteeldude, are the w-size columns going to stay the same size to the top?

by the way...i'm currently a civil engineering major...those columns are awesome!

The size is the same, they are all 14 inch wide flange beams, used as columns. The weight per foot decreases the higher ya go, the loads are lower so the columns are thinner.

W14x730 = W for wide flange, 14 for the section hight and 730 is weight per foot

Up around the 65th floor you may have a W14x426.

The inside surface of the flange of any W14 well align with any other W14. Makes column splices a bit easier, all the shims go on the outside.

PS: The W14x808 was accepted by the ASCE, AISC and ASTM, thus making it the heaviest rolled section available.
More useful info.

http://www.structural-drafting-net-expert.com/steel-sections-i-beam-w-shape.html

[Zensteeldude]

STR that is wonderful ! I think only the real thing could look better.

[STR]

Thanks. I just finished the spire and I think I'm more proud of it than the entire rest of the building. Possibly because I had no idea how i was going to even approach it until an hour ago. Then it hit me, and it went up really quickly.

Next...The halo, then the base, then I'm pretty much done. anyone have a photo of the type of glass they're using in the base?

[Skyscrapers144]

Thanks. I just finished the spire and I think I'm more proud of it than the entire rest of the building. Possibly because I had no idea how i was going to even approach it until an hour ago. Then it hit me, and it went up really quickly.

Next...The halo, then the base, then I'm pretty much done. anyone have a photo of the type of glass they're using in the base?
http://www.tropolism.com/28cnd-freedom.7.650.jpg

[Zensteeldude]

None of the renders do the base justice.

The best I can do as far as help is ask you to think of a sheet 4 feet wide and 13' 3" high covered in tiny 1/2 inch prisms, keeping in mind that it's backed by stainless steel, or aluminum, grating.

http://www.croftandlittle.com/lib/yhst-66731470225857/more-wil-600fjvbn-03.jpg

If I haven't said it before, I well now, the base is gona be pretty cool ! Way way way way better then the base of #7.

[MercurySky]

That would look beautiful. It is a very nice element of the building regardless of what critics think of the base.

[NYguy]

If I haven't said it before, I well now, the base is gona be pretty cool ! Way way way way better then the base of #7.

I think it's going to surprise a lot of people, who insists it'g going to resemble a "bunker"...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78009066/original.jpg


Nevermind they family of cube people in the far corner.

Or the fact that I turned the corner glass into drywall for a second there...
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3770/cubepeople.jpg

Pretty good...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/62745561/original.jpg



lowerwestside (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lowerwestsidenyc/5103518460/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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[Zapatan]

that's a great rendering of the observatory :) but the corners won't really have drywall will they? that would be awful

[STR]

that's a great rendering of the observatory :) but the corners won't really have drywall will they? that would be awful

No, it's glass, I just messed up the materials for that render. In 3D modelling, if you're unfamiliar, doesn't really make a distinction between metal, glass, or rocks. You describe the physical attributes, and it throws up a facsimile of real world objects. Often you have a bunch of different types of material on one object, like here, which the software (and you) keeps track of by using numbers. Material #2, for example is stainless steel. If I step in down to #1, it becomes glass (I picked the numbers BTW, not the program, because again it doesn't know/care).

In this case, I changed the inside of the glass panes to differentiate the interior view from exterior glazing (which is more reflective) and mistyped the numbers turning it from #4 (interior glass) to #5 (blank white wall).

Also, it's from the restaurant level, two floors below the obs deck, counting the restaurant mezzanine, which they do (that they count floors that don't exist is an entirely different discussion).

[STR]

None of the renders do the base justice.

The best I can do as far as help is ask you to think of a sheet 4 feet wide and 13' 3" high covered in tiny 1/2 inch prisms, keeping in mind that it's backed by stainless steel, or aluminum, grating.

IMAGE

If I haven't said it before, I well now, the base is gona be pretty cool ! Way way way way better then the base of #7.

Wow. Aside from the fact this particular material eats my computer alive (not as bad as some metal shaders though), this is an utterly trippy effect. That's actually just the prism effect, I'd still have to add-in the effect of grates.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3651/trippyg.jpg

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

from around 4:00 today

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i think the cladding just might go here where the netting has been cut out

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[Zapatan]

Also, it's from the restaurant level, two floors below the obs deck, counting the restaurant mezzanine, which they do (that they count floors that don't exist is an entirely different discussion).

Ah gotcha

one other question, maybe I'm just worrying too much but you see how the three columns come together in the corner at the restaurant floor and nearly touch each other, that means that on the observatory floor, one above, there will likely be no corner windows because of the columns meeting. Or is it still low down enough?

:sly:

[STR]

Ah gotcha

one other question, maybe I'm just worrying too much but you see how the three columns come together in the corner at the restaurant floor and nearly touch each other, that means that on the observatory floor, one above, there will likely be no corner windows because of the columns meeting.
:sly:

Possibly, but I really don't know. I only guessed at the column widths after fireproofing and and casing (not even sure if that's the word).

[sw5710]

510.8' of 1776' now

[patriotizzy]

skyscrapersofnewyork amazing pictures. Really awesome to see those pictures.

[hunser]

coltermac (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plog/)

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[ThisSideofSteinway]

Oh, man - all that first one needs is a few workers ambling their way across the steel and you'd have a photo worthy of the great Lewis Hine Empire State Building shots.

[J.M.]

I think the American flag on the crane does it, that image is just spectacular, so so perfect.

[J_M_Tungsten]

coltermac (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plog/)

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Beekman. Brooklyn. Manhattan. Freedom. America.

[NYguy]

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[STR]

My take on the prismatic glass. Feedback from those in the know is welcome.
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8430/fin2.jpg

Oh yeah, and it's DONE!
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9378/fin3q.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1745/fin5v.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4044/fin6.jpg

The base looks a lot more like the renders when you stick it in a city.
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5233/fin1m.jpg http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1680/fin4n.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2679/fin8.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1295/fin7.jpg

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

My take on the prismatic glass. Feedback from those in the know is welcome.
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8430/fin2.jpg

Oh yeah, and it's DONE!
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9378/fin3q.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1745/fin5v.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4044/fin6.jpg

The base looks a lot more like the renders when you stick it in a city.
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5233/fin1m.jpg http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1680/fin4n.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2679/fin8.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1295/fin7.jpg


these are simply amazing,job very well done!!!!! what program are you using?

[The North One]

If I haven't said it before, I well now, the base is gona be pretty cool ! Way way way way better then the base of #7.

hmmm, im not sure, tower 7's base looks really sleek.

i kinda wish they just stuck with the aluminum like 7.

[Plokoon11]

Skyscrapers of newyork, why did u have to quote every picture? Thats sort of annoying then you think there is an update and it ends up being a long picture quote.

[Innsertnamehere]

unbelievable! they look like professional renders!

[Draegen]

You should totally get a cookie for that...

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Skyscrapers of newyork, why did u have to quote every picture? Thats sort of annoying then you think there is an update and it ends up being a long picture quote.

srry jeez...its late...im tired...i made a mistake...wont happen again... -_-

[Plokoon11]

^ At least you apologized. :) Man I absolutely can't wait for the cladding to happen.

[Zapatan]

Sweet merciful lord STR, those are amazing

[STR]

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3350/fin10.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4089/fin9u.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4739/fin11g.jpg

[NYguy]

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1680/fin4n.jpg

The view from the top will be amazing.

[Boss-ton]

your about to get sued from silverstein for giving away the whole surprise........lol

[NYguy]

your about to get sued from silverstein for giving away the whole surprise........lol

Silverstein is no longer involved with this tower...:order: But in fact, I'm sure there will be some surprises. More importantly, people who never got a chance to visit the original will get a chance to experience it once the new deck opens.


drain (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuffandnonsense/4980294498/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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[Onn]

Amazing STR! Absolutely amazing! :slob:

[meh_cd]

I think STR's renders should quell many's fears about the finished product. It looks even better than I imagined - the official renders don't seem to have done the tower justice.

[Obey]

Silverstein is no longer involved with this tower...:order: But in fact, I'm sure there will be some surprises. More importantly, people who never got a chance to visit the original will get a chance to experience it once the new deck opens.


drain (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuffandnonsense/4980294498/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/4980293714_cea6e8681e_z.jpg

Woah I never knew you could do that at the old WTC. Thats a really good idea hope they do that in the new one (maybe not for security reasons and such).

[sterlippo1]

NY Guy ,thanks for posting that picture of the WTC observation deck..........it's exactly how i remember it..........it was just an incredibly elegant place, just like the new one will be!:cheers:

[Tall guy 31]

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4739/fin11g.jpg

In this photo...approximately where does the tower stand constructed now??? I know one of you has the ability to draw lines where the work progress is for now.

[uaarkson]

:previous: Anyone whose computer has the ability to draw colored lines, you mean.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/1WTC102310.png

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

:previous: Those pics are just amazing!

[Tall guy 31]

:previous: Anyone whose computer has the ability to draw colored lines, you mean.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/1WTC102310.png


Thank you for the update (and colored lines). When I try to color lines on my computer..it's freehand and the lines are all crooked. :P


Looks like WTC 1 is at the same height as the base of skylobby in the old tower.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Thank you for the update (and colored lines). When I try to color lines on my computer..it's freehand and the lines are all crooked. :P


Looks like WTC 1 is at the same height as the base of skylobby in the old tower.

It's not the base, this is the first skylobby at the 44th floor, the second was at floor 78.

[Tall guy 31]

It's not the base, this is the first skylobby at the 44th floor, the second was at floor 78.

That's what I meant. :)

[STR]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/828/nwtc11.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/256/nwtc12.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4886/nwtc13.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7691/nwtc14.jpg

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4175/nwtc15.jpg

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/2512/nwtc16.jpg

[Zensteeldude]

STR, your model is fantastic !!!!

I remember in one of your post that you said you have the prints, that's why I just sat back and let you do your thing.

I even hate to bring this up, but, there are two things that I see in your model that would make it 99.999999% perfect.

The first one is each of the communications rings have a different outside diameter. (different enough to be noticeable.)

The second is the prismatic glass panels of the base. They do not have mullions between them, they are stand off panels with 1' spaces between them vertically and a 1 1/2 inch space horizontally.

If you need any info from me feel free to PM me and I'll be glad to help.

PS: I think you got the spire cladding just right !

Your model is so darn good I hate to say anything that might be considered criticism.

Please don't think this is nit picking but I just noticed that there are no dish or rod antennas on the third (top) communications ring. (Zen ducks and runs for cover!)

[patriotizzy]

STR, your renders make me really excited for 1WTC. You are a great renderer. Is this your career? Or is it just a pasttime?

[KevinFromTexas]

I wasn't all that impressed with the spire in the design, but your rendering makes me reconsider. I hope the spire does have that much texture and detail. All along it seemed silly to have such a tall spire, but if it's that heavily detailed, then it'll be worth it. I also like that ring around the roof (what is that)?

I'm also liking the facade for the other building more. Great job.

[STR]

The first one is each of the communications rings have a different outside diameter. (different enough to be noticeable.)

Define "different"

The second is the prismatic glass panels of the base. They do not have mullions between them, they are stand off panels with 1' spaces between them vertically and a 1 1/2 inch space horizontally.

eh...I might come back to that. Probably after I redo the other 3 main towers. I don't think they altered Tower 3 enough that I'll have to start from scratch. 2 and 4 will be pretty much scratch jobs, the former because they changed the design so much and latter because it's a really early effort on my part and I think I can do better the second time through. In fact, I might rehab the entire facade on Tower 1, since I cheated in a couple of places for expediency and reduction in polygons. I'd have to figure out how to do it quickly though. So duly noted.

I hope the spire does have that much texture and detail. All along it seemed silly to have such a tall spire, but if it's that heavily detailed, then it'll be worth it.

According to everything I've seen, it will be textured as thus. In fact, if it isn't, I'm driving down there and kicking some architect ass. I'm damn proud of how I figured out how to do that spire and it took me 90 minutes to build.

I also like that ring around the roof (what is that)?
Boadcast antennas. Apparently they're going all out on that front. I guess they're looking to land every broadcaster in the region to the tower.

I'm also liking the facade for the other building more. Great job.

Which building? The World Financial Center towers? Fankly, those were real half-ass jobs on my part. Took like 30 minutes for all of them.

[NYguy]

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4175/nwtc15.jpg

Great work. Helps to build the excitement, especially now that things seem to be moving along.


kevin s koepke (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/5109713766/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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[NYguy]

I wasn't all that impressed with the spire in the design, but your rendering makes me reconsider. I hope the spire does have that much texture and detail. All along it seemed silly to have such a tall spire, but if it's that heavily detailed, then it'll be worth it. I also like that ring around the roof (what is that)?

I'm confident the spire design will prove to be a worthy addition, worthy of its 1,776 ft height. As far as the broadcast rings, check some of Zensteeldude's diagrams of the top. Another idea of the 3 ring levels from the graphic below:

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/917518.jpg


Antenna inside spire (earlier version of ring)...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/120637544/large.jpg


Variations of the spire/ring we've seen....

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/91204051/large.jpg

[STR]

Ah. Looks like it just continues the rest of the buildings slope...so means I gotta narrow the upper level by like a foot and a half. Or more likely widen the lower level a bit, I just eyeballed that at a 70 foot radius.

Either/or, the antenna array took like 15 minutes to do the first time. Second time would take like 5 minutes.

STR, your renders make me really excited for 1WTC. You are a great renderer. Is this your career? Or is it just a pasttime?

Just a hobby, and this is actually the first model I've made from scratch since roughly about the time I stopped posting here. Though, I have tweaked my old WTC model once or twice more recently than that. That model is even more detailed than this one is/will be. Kind of a permanent public archive, if you will. Some people REALLY want to know where I got my hands on plans and spec's for that model. It even features the apparently never photographed backside of 7WTC.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6974/3ds11t1.jpg

Anyway, last new render for a while. Not 2 years again, mind you, just a few days to a week. Got work to do.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5800/lastone.jpg

[NY-rob-NY]

cooll,great animationen,its look really cool.i hope it will open at 2013:tup:

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

:previous: :previous: Tower 2 is missing at some images.


I would like to see this comparison with the Empire State Bldg as well!

[patriotizzy]

Great comparison shot.

[hunser]

don't know if the vid has been posted... but just to make sure here it is:

Getting concrete to Ground Zero is anything but a normal job

Rise of Freedom: Concrete Run (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/rise-of-freedom/index.html)

[STR]

:previous: :previous: Tower 2 is missing at some images.

Yes, because my model of it was unfinished, outdated and butt ugly. I'm working on a replacement.

[NYguy]

kevin s koepke (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/5111320268/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1153/5111320268_3d0fbda520_b.jpg

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

were any materials for this tower shipped from Indiana?

[slayerhk47]

Perhaps this upcoming week we will see some glass go up...:rolleyes:

[Plokoon11]

^ I really hope so.

[Onn]

Perhaps this upcoming week we will see some glass go up...:rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure they said early November, that's at least another week.

[Kevin Scott Koepke]

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