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Puzzlecraft
Aug 18, 2009, 1:50 PM
Looks like a cross beam between near the top of the diagonal column and the column to the right just "appeared" there. Big red is still holding the small piece that was placed on top of the diagonal column, so I don't know how the cross beam got there, the first one, maybe an illusion of the photo? These beams are huge.

theWatusi
Aug 18, 2009, 2:07 PM
It looks like they lowered the OSHA walkway to below the horizontal beam. It was at the same level as the walkway between the right column and the core.

BStyles
Aug 18, 2009, 3:36 PM
That cross beam looks like the starting of the first mechanical floor plate. The entire base takes up floors 1-19, so this is about 1/3rd of it.

Puzzlecraft
Aug 18, 2009, 4:40 PM
Sure looks like a cross beam, need a detailed photo........

Puzzlecraft
Aug 18, 2009, 5:04 PM
Could one of the tower cranes have placed the cross beam?

37TimPPG
Aug 18, 2009, 8:01 PM
Sure looks like a cross beam, need a detailed photo........

I checked the webcam. It indeed is a cross beam:D

Puzzlecraft
Aug 18, 2009, 8:41 PM
I checked out some images I captured early in the day. Don't have time to construct an animation but several things of note:

There were two trucks early in the morning, one with the diagonal extension and another one with the cross beam.

The cross beam disappeared first within a 15 minute stretch; big red was stationary, the N. Core crane moved, the top of the crane out of the picture. Don't know what the S. Core crane was doing as it is totally out of the picture. I couldn't find the beam anywhere after it was gone from the truck.

Big Red picked up and placed the diagonal extension.

Within 15 minutes, the cross beam was placed, Big Red still was connected to the diagonal extension and had not moved. The yellow catwalk was not lowered. The N. Core crane was in a new position but away from the cross beam. The S. Core crane totally out of the picture, no cables evident around the cross beam. One of the tower cranes must have placed it.

If anyone can find a picture of the cross beam while it was in the air would be of great interest!

vandelay
Aug 18, 2009, 9:55 PM
I'd love to see a picture of the rig that brings one of the columns to the crane. It must be some kind of operation to get it to the site and get it hoisted in the air.

NYguy
Aug 18, 2009, 11:17 PM
Taken from wtc.com (Aug 15)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116244988/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116245031/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116244988/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116245031/original.jpg

SD360
Aug 19, 2009, 2:32 AM
those pics are amazing. what is up with that red crane, it looks like 2 in one

830point35
Aug 19, 2009, 2:52 AM
How do they manage all that?

2-TOWERS
Aug 19, 2009, 4:22 AM
GREAT PICS NYGUY..... THIS IS GOING GREAT..:cheers:

Loslocos
Aug 19, 2009, 12:23 PM
Another column has just arrived, looks like it's another corner piece.

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

theWatusi
Aug 19, 2009, 1:08 PM
nice

theWatusi
Aug 19, 2009, 3:00 PM
second corner column is now up

Dac150
Aug 19, 2009, 5:22 PM
Well for those who said that there is no progress being made, here you have it. It seems that they are moving at a quick and consistent pace and with that said this should continue to shoot right up.

theWatusi
Aug 19, 2009, 5:43 PM
I would imagine that the corners are more complicated. The side columns should go up even faster.

37TimPPG
Aug 19, 2009, 5:58 PM
Well for those who said that there is no progress being made, here you have it. It seems that they are moving at a quick and consistent pace and with that said this should continue to shoot right up.

That's right! Slow and steady wins the race! Construction of 1WTC isn't a sprint race...it is a marathon. Patience, it'll be finished on time. (and by that I mean 2013 - not 2018 like those ridiculous "secret reports" claim!):notacrook:

Dirty Sandpit
Aug 19, 2009, 6:59 PM
The core on this thing is HUGE! When are they gonna be equal though? Seems the one lags behind for a while. Nice progress on the columns though, I see they have 4 now.:banana:

philvia
Aug 19, 2009, 11:02 PM
the concrete portion of both sides are equal... the only difference in height is the steel sections, which should go up in a matter of days(once they start) across the northern section of the core

theWatusi
Aug 20, 2009, 2:11 AM
Just a friendly reminder that this thread is for the discussion of 1WTC, not the campaign for rebuilding what used to be there. If you'd like to discuss the twin towers alliance agenda, do it here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=172731

Trolling of this thread will result in suspensions on the first offence and bans on the second.

Aleks
Aug 20, 2009, 3:22 AM
Haha, you posted at 9:11.

Great to see the outline! Finally! :fruit:

NYguy
Aug 20, 2009, 5:17 AM
Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/3837499208/sizes/l/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2535/3837499208_3d74a67781_b.jpg


okreitz (http://www.flickr.com/photos/okreitz/3838889488/sizes/l/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/3838889488_004a9769dc_b.jpg

NYguy
Aug 20, 2009, 5:29 AM
Aram Sinnreich (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aramsinnreich/3837771424/sizes/o/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/3837771424_343259c9f5_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/3837771424_7c3d6c6147_o.jpg

Puzzlecraft
Aug 20, 2009, 6:03 AM
One thing I like about WTC1 is its elegant symmetry. A clean idea that I have not seen anywhere else, at least on the scale being built. Thinking about it, many of the buildings of the world which are considered beautiful are symmetric. The Empire State Building, the Chrysler Building, the Taj Mahal, the Great Pyramids, the U. S. Capital building. I'm not a prisoner of symmetry but I've very glad that such an important symbolic building is not being built in what I thought was exceedingly ugly, the crystaline and scaffolding Libeskind mode.

car2004
Aug 20, 2009, 10:16 AM
Aram Sinnreich (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aramsinnreich/3837771424/sizes/o/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/3837771424_343259c9f5_b.jpg


Now I can see what this building will look like, what a different from two weeks ago!

theWatusi
Aug 20, 2009, 12:38 PM
Looks like they are currently installing the "cap" on the diagonal column that was put up yesterday.

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

eMKay
Aug 20, 2009, 1:38 PM
I was in NYC, figured I would take some pics, nothing new to add really since they are posted so often, but here they are anyway...

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc03.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc04.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc05.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc06.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc07.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc08.jpg

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/eMKayBFLO/nyc09.jpg

aaron38
Aug 20, 2009, 2:05 PM
Taken from wtc.com (Aug 15)
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116245031/large.jpg

What's the tall building under construction in the background? I don't see a thread that matches that.

NYguy
Aug 20, 2009, 2:19 PM
What's the tall building under construction in the background? I don't see a thread that matches that.

That's the new W at 123 Washington St...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=93680

eMKay
Aug 20, 2009, 2:41 PM
That's the new W at 123 Washington St...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=93680

I was wondering that myself while down there, it's very tall and I figured there was a thread on it.

BStyles
Aug 20, 2009, 3:00 PM
The North core looks a bit different. There's a cement truck parked right next to it, did they just pour concrete?

Edit: It now looks like the north crane is hauling something large, like a part of the forms.

Lecom
Aug 20, 2009, 3:49 PM
With those beams extruded, this should be the approximate building volume:

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3306/volumea.jpg
original image source: Aram Sinnreich

CGII
Aug 20, 2009, 3:55 PM
Wow I never really considered just how close this is to Vesey St. and how it'll crowd the Barclay-Vesey Building.

uaarkson
Aug 20, 2009, 4:13 PM
This building is going to be fucking gigantic.

Puzzlecraft
Aug 20, 2009, 4:29 PM
The right side of the sketch is too far into Vesey street. The vertical column stubs are about 10 feet to the left.

Lecom
Aug 20, 2009, 4:46 PM
The right side of the sketch is too far into Vesey street. The vertical column stubs are about 10 feet to the left.

You're correct. I realized that only after I was finished but didn't feel like redoing the whole thing :P

uaarkson
Aug 20, 2009, 5:03 PM
Someone bumped the earthcam. =\

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/groundzero/groundZero.swf

BStyles
Aug 20, 2009, 5:24 PM
Actually it rotates every once in a while, sometimes to focus on 1WTC.

It rotated in my favor though. Here's a diagram(very small but in vibrant colors) of the next few months work.
http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/FTWork.png
-Red stands for the 24 perimeter columns being placed. Further up, maybe they will be the same color.
-Yellow stands for the crossbeams that ends the lobby and starts the mechanical floor
-White is the outline of the building.
-Green is the super large trusses shrouded in the base's glass clad curtain wall. They come in sections, because of obvious reasons. I think the Manitowoc has a high enough boom for putting those in.

*There's a truck delivering the smaller crossbeam for in between the diagonal columns right now.

uaarkson
Aug 20, 2009, 5:35 PM
Looks like it's back to normal.

Lecom
Aug 20, 2009, 5:50 PM
^That's a pretty good rendition.

philvia
Aug 20, 2009, 7:17 PM
3:30pm, all the cross beams are in and the crane is stationary... there's still time to put up another column today :sly:

they should adopt a more aggressive schedule :sly:

Zensteeldude
Aug 20, 2009, 7:32 PM
Actually it rotates every once in a while, sometimes to focus on 1WTC.

It rotated in my favor though. Here's a diagram(very small but in vibrant colors) of the next few months work.
http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/FTWork.png
-Red stands for the 24 perimeter columns being placed. Further up, maybe they will be the same color.
-Yellow stands for the crossbeams that ends the lobby and starts the mechanical floor
-White is the outline of the building.
-Green is the super large trusses shrouded in the base's glass clad curtain wall. They come in sections, because of obvious reasons. I think the Manitowoc has a high enough boom for putting those in.

*There's a truck delivering the smaller crossbeam for in between the diagonal columns right now.

Your diagram looks spot on to me. The area behind the green section well have a double wall forming an air plenum. There is also a bunch of tube steel running horizontally between the columns to support the glass and tie all the columns together .

meh_cd
Aug 20, 2009, 8:13 PM
3:30pm, all the cross beams are in and the crane is stationary... there's still time to put up another column today :sly:

they should adopt a more aggressive schedule :sly:

I agree, this is getting a little silly. I think they may be waiting for the north core steel/west plaza to be finished, though. If you think about it they are actually slightly ahead of schedule.

Still, it'd be nice to see them get half of those columns up before the anniversary.

uaarkson
Aug 20, 2009, 8:34 PM
Yeah, I don't think they can do much until the north core steel is up, so they're probably not in a huge rush in the meantime.

uakoops
Aug 20, 2009, 8:58 PM
3:30pm, all the cross beams are in and the crane is stationary... there's still time to put up another column today :sly:

they should adopt a more aggressive schedule :sly:

They can't truck the big pieces in during the day, they are too big.

philvia
Aug 20, 2009, 9:12 PM
They can't truck the big pieces in during the day, they are too big.

so bring more than one during the night... they could do what they can now instead of "taking it slow" waiting for the north core. which is only needed for the cross beams, but even those aren't required to put up a column *shrug*

oh well, it's tradition at this site to take as long as possible, so i shouldn't care so much :haha:

BStyles
Aug 20, 2009, 9:35 PM
I can't wait until this project is 25 stories past the base and you guys are complaining that it doesn't look right.:haha:

The beams weigh 70 tons, they'll reach the site sooner or later. Expect one either today or tomorrow, because they're doing a beam-a-day schedule. At least if the north core has steel cage then the tower can actually rise instead of wait for it.

philvia
Aug 20, 2009, 10:01 PM
if the beam-a-day schedule were true, there would be 7 columns up and not 4

BStyles
Aug 20, 2009, 10:15 PM
No work on weekends(including late friday and some part of early monday), since they cut path service in one direction and work on the north core.

philvia
Aug 20, 2009, 10:29 PM
the still close path for construction? i figured they'd be well beyond that now seeing how construction is now 100ft above the tracks :shrug:

when do they plan on restoring service on those days ?

anyways, closing of path trains to work on north core has nothing to do with their lack of following a column-a-day schedule :haha:

uakoops
Aug 21, 2009, 3:15 AM
the still close path for construction? i figured they'd be well beyond that now seeing how construction is now 100ft above the tracks :shrug:

when do they plan on restoring service on those days ?

anyways, closing of path trains to work on north core has nothing to do with their lack of following a column-a-day schedule :haha:

I think the PATH shutdowns has to do with the PATH station reconstruction and has nothing to do with WTC1. Anyway the tracks do not actually run under the core, they curve around the north side of the building. The notheast corner column is actually right over the tracks, hence the upside-down Y thing.

NYguy
Aug 21, 2009, 5:41 AM
anyways, closing of path trains to work on north core has nothing to do with their lack of following a column-a-day schedule :haha:

They're working at their own scheduled pace - not at the whim of skyscraper fanatics. Everyone can see the work in progress. If the process is too slow for you, then don't watch. But enough of these comments.

NYguy
Aug 21, 2009, 5:43 AM
morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/3841050450/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3841050450_e471dab0af_b.jpg

NYguy
Aug 21, 2009, 6:29 AM
BTW, now that the excitement is building for construction of the Freedom Tower, maybe the Port Authority will reveal the final design of what it has planned for the spire. Here's a little more on what was reported as the final design of the spire last year (before the broadcasters walked away). The PA has since said there will be a spire built, but hasn't been more specific. Perhaps they will just build this version as planned...

http://www.wirelessestimator.com/t_content.cfm?pagename=Cell%20Towers

http://www.wirelessestimator.com/wifi/images/uploads/Freedom%20Broadcast%20Tower.jpg

Dominating Manhattan's skyline, country's largest radome will be 408 feet, but is years away


February 1, 2008 - Companies that design, manufacture or install broadcast communications antennas will be looking for opportunities to belly up to the bidding and bragging bar to offer their services to provide the nation's largest TV broadcast antenna that is encased by a radome, following an announcement from the Freedom Tower's architects that the antenna atop the structure will be part of the tower's design.

The designer of the master plan for the 16-acre former World Trade Center site in New York had previously promoted an open off-center antenna as the crowning facet of architect David Childs' Freedom Tower design. However, a consortium of broadcast engineers of the Metropolitan Television Alliance said that putting the mast off-center would interfere with their ability to transmit their signal from the 1,776-foot building.

After further review, Childs now says that those ideas, which exposed the actual antenna to the air, were impractical. He said that the more open designs would cause the potential for ice to accumulate and fall to Manhattan streets and make the mast impossible to maintain at such a height.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the $2.9 billion Freedom Tower, and architects Skidmore Owings & Merrill have come to an agreement upon what the antenna will look like. The mast will constitute the project's top 408 feet.

The current design, pictured above, done in consultation with sculptor Ken Snelson, shrouds the antenna in a radome that is invisible to the broadcast signals that easily transmit through it.

The Metropolitan Broadcast Alliance, a consortium of 13 TV stations that will be on the Freedom Tower antenna, is currently negotiating with the Port Authority on lease rental rates and other contract concerns. A contract with the broadcasters is anticipated to net about $10 million a year in annual rent. The antenna is expected to cost more than $20 million to build.

Freedom Tower's radome is 74 feet higher than CN Tower's

In an industry whose ego feeds off of superlatives, some observers believe that the Freedom Tower's radome will be the tallest in the world, surpassing the CN Tower in Toronto, Canada.

The CN Tower's management company said that the structure is owned by their Federal Government and they could not release proprietary information regarding the radome's size. However, an estimate was arrived at by scaling an available drawing by Toronto engineer Simon Weisman, President of Weisman Consultants Inc. , showing the radome above the space deck to be approximately 334 feet in height.

Although the CN Tower will maintain bragging rights for being the tallest building in the world at 1,815 feet, 39 feet taller than the Freedom Tower, the New York structure's single continuous radome is 74 feet higher.

http://www.wirelessestimator.com/wifi/images/uploads/CN%20Broadcast%20Tower.jpg

uakoops
Aug 21, 2009, 2:01 PM
......Although the CN Tower will maintain bragging rights for being the tallest building in the world.....

Oh really? Have you been to Dubai lately?

NYCLuver
Aug 21, 2009, 2:15 PM
Oh really? Have you been to Dubai lately?

I think that article was from last year before the Burj Dubai was topped out.

New Skyline
Aug 21, 2009, 3:02 PM
looks like there are 5 perimeter columns up now, so still 19 to go.

NYguy
Aug 21, 2009, 3:06 PM
I think that article was from last year before the Burj Dubai was topped out.

As stated, and dated...

February 1, 2008

uakoops
Aug 21, 2009, 4:36 PM
As stated, and dated...

Yes but the article was referring to the future when WTC1 will already be finished....

NYguy
Aug 21, 2009, 5:16 PM
Yes but the article was referring to the future when WTC1 will already be finished....

Same as when the Freedom Tower was first proposed as the world's tallest. It would have been, had it been completed at the time. But everyone, particularly on a skyscraper forum, knows the reality from what was reported.

scalziand
Aug 21, 2009, 6:02 PM
Next column is up.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8792/5cwtc1.jpg

uaarkson
Aug 21, 2009, 6:46 PM
Looks like the crane is picking something else up. I can't tell what it is from the earthcam =\

Plokoon11
Aug 21, 2009, 7:46 PM
It has nothing, maybe they are expecting a large column to be delivered soon, and then they will pick it up and go on. Or maybe the crane is tired and is taking a nap?

philvia
Aug 21, 2009, 8:06 PM
Or maybe the crane is tired and is taking a nap?

haha :slob:

vandelay
Aug 21, 2009, 8:43 PM
Some bad weather headed to the city. They've probably battened down the hatches and the crane is done for the week I guess.

uaarkson
Aug 21, 2009, 10:40 PM
Some bad weather headed to the city. They've probably battened down the hatches and the crane is done for the week I guess.

I highly doubt bad weather would be a problem for a crane that lifts 70 ton steel beams.

You Need A Thneed
Aug 21, 2009, 11:10 PM
I highly doubt bad weather would be a problem for a crane that lifts 70 ton steel beams.

Wind is ALWAYS a concern for cranes, no matter what size.

Zensteeldude
Aug 21, 2009, 11:23 PM
I think the PATH shutdowns has to do with the PATH station reconstruction and has nothing to do with WTC1. Anyway the tracks do not actually run under the core, they curve around the north side of the building. The notheast corner column is actually right over the tracks, hence the upside-down Y thing.

Ummm, actually, the core does span the tracks, on the northwest corner. There is a 5 foot thick "flying buttress" over the tracks that carries the load to a five by ten foot concrete column. First time I ever saw #20 re-bar on a print !


PS: Re-bar is measured in 1/8ths of an inch, so a #8 re-bar is one inch thick. Most of the re-bar in the core is #11.

Zensteeldude
Aug 21, 2009, 11:33 PM
I highly doubt bad weather would be a problem for a crane that lifts 70 ton steel beams.

I guess you have never seen this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-ENqgjQXM

The screeching is the cable brakes starting to fail, the loud banging sounds are the 1 1/2" diameter 110k pound tensile strength bolts holding the turntable to the crawler unit failing. The roof section weighed slightly over 400 tons, it was a 1,500 ton crane.

They accounted for everything but the WIND!!!

PS the video was taken by some OSHA inspectors on there day off, they came by to see the lift.


Longer version with alot more info.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8RxvyC44yg

2-TOWERS
Aug 21, 2009, 11:55 PM
morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/3841050450/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3841050450_e471dab0af_b.jpg

looking at this pic you can how big this building is..

Zensteeldude
Aug 22, 2009, 12:04 AM
It is starting to fill out isn't it .:)

uaarkson
Aug 22, 2009, 1:07 AM
I guess you have never seen this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-ENqgjQXM

The screeching is the cable brakes starting to fail, the loud banging sounds are the 1 1/2" diameter 110k pound tensile strength bolts holding the turntable to the crawler unit failing. The roof section weighed slightly over 400 tons, it was a 1,500 ton crane.

They accounted for everything but the WIND!!!

PS the video was taken by some OSHA inspectors on there day off, they came by to see the lift.


Longer version with alot more info.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8RxvyC44yg

Oh, shit. o_O

BStyles
Aug 22, 2009, 2:25 AM
Or maybe the crane is tired and is taking a nap?

Wakey wakey.....:whip:

Just joking. It seems to me that everytime they pour concrete at the memorial(or in general around the site) it starts to rain. Ironic?

@Zensteeldude: I saw the butress during the reverse weekend schedule on the PATH. Looks like any ordinary station column, in it's shape, but it's incredible in size, but wasn't there some way they could've just rearranged the tracks for the column placement?

Also, did they pour concrete at the north core at any point this week? It looks to me as if they're loosening the inner forms in preparation for a jump.

Zensteeldude
Aug 22, 2009, 2:30 AM
The PATH can take a 75 foot radius but even that wouldn't have been enough. It would have ment a very tight s curve, turned out to be easier to build over it.

Zensteeldude
Aug 22, 2009, 2:34 AM
Oh, shit. o_O

Yea, you got it. Sometimes there is a very fine line between impressive construction and tragic piles of steel.

If hurricane Bill were headed this way you would see the booms of the crawler cranes on the ground, heaven knows what they would do with the tower cranes.

As a side note, if Bill were to track further east and hit NYC, that is the reason that Tower One is designed to take 130+ mph winds.

"S*it Happens" ---Forest Gump

Acer1
Aug 22, 2009, 2:14 PM
I think the Crane is down because there's no more columns that can be put up until one of two things gets done.

A. Steel on north core matches height of south core
B. Concrete pour on the other two sides so the other mobile crane can be installed.

I mean, these beams are supported by the inner steel cage so adding columns to the north side doesn't make any sense at this point. The big question is when are we going to see that inner core steel get installed on the north side?

BStyles
Aug 22, 2009, 3:03 PM
Exactly. In the end, it revolves around the north core's progress. This is one of those off weekends where they continue work.

In a quarterly report released by the PA, they said that the north crane will jump into it's steel cage by december, which means that in the proceeding weeks it should have jumped to the top of the concrete core and lay steel in october-december, jump into the cage, and by next year the tower will rise to the sky. But these are just variables. Maybe it will get done earlier, time will tell.

Mercedes Benzene
Aug 22, 2009, 5:30 PM
I just got back from visiting the site in person. It's coming along marvelously!
The last time I was in NY, it was still just a hole. :cool:

uaarkson
Aug 22, 2009, 5:47 PM
Exactly. In the end, it revolves around the north core's progress. This is one of those off weekends where they continue work.

In a quarterly report released by the PA, they said that the north crane will jump into it's steel cage by december, which means that in the proceeding weeks it should have jumped to the top of the concrete core and lay steel in october-december, jump into the cage, and by next year the tower will rise to the sky. But these are just variables. Maybe it will get done earlier, time will tell.

I doubt that it will take that long, and I hope that it won't take that long.

NYguy
Aug 23, 2009, 1:51 PM
Some fun with google earth and the WTC...some of the details and new towers are missing, but still a good feel...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116402535/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116402556/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116402729/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116402920/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116403064/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116403144/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116403329/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116403463/original.jpg

theWatusi
Aug 23, 2009, 2:30 PM
cool stuff :)

2-TOWERS
Aug 23, 2009, 3:50 PM
its good to see the correct height of #2 WTC.. other pics had it alot shorter..

BStyles
Aug 23, 2009, 5:25 PM
Oh wow, they even got Goldman Sachs in there. They should've got it with it's cladding done.

Hey NYguy, can you get a harbor view and Jersey City View of it?

Oddly enough, the PAC is still at the bottom of the site where it should be. I'm really starting to think that it's removal was just like that report about 1WTC's completion date in 2018.

All in favor of calling it 6 WTC? Just to complete the complex again.:haha:

Stu
Aug 23, 2009, 8:56 PM
I kind of like the simplicity of the spire on 1 WTC in those pics. It's a fairly simplistic design for a skyscraper, I think a spire with modest details would actually suit it.

BStyles
Aug 23, 2009, 10:51 PM
That's not actually what the spire is going to look like. The picture on page 279 is actually the spire.

Stu
Aug 23, 2009, 11:01 PM
I am aware of that, noob. :haha:

scalziand
Aug 24, 2009, 2:39 AM
Oh wow, they even got Goldman Sachs in there. They should've got it with it's cladding done.

Hey NYguy, can you get a harbor view and Jersey City View of it?

This good enough for ya?
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2325/wtcjersey.jpg
and
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2272/wtcharbour.jpg
I have no clue where that tall ship came from.:banana:

I also didn't realize that the ESB would be visible form this view. Nicely framed, isn't it? However, 56 Leonard and WTC5 should eventually obscure that view.

theWatusi
Aug 24, 2009, 1:31 PM
The crawler crane has a big piece of steel...it's not a column, so we'll have to wait and see what it is.

Also, concrete pour going on at the North core.

uakoops
Aug 24, 2009, 2:28 PM
The crawler crane has a big piece of steel...it's not a column, so we'll have to wait and see what it is.

Also, concrete pour going on at the North core.

It's the big 3-headed connector that goes on top of the column that was put up on Friday. Zen, how much does that connector piece weigh?

vandelay
Aug 24, 2009, 3:02 PM
I have no clue where that tall ship came from.:banana:



That isn't just any tall ship, it's the Half Moon, the sloop Hudson sailed when he "discovered" the river.

Also, while they're putting up that connector, it looks like the north east side of the site is getting a major pour, the concrete looks to be street level now.

JDRCRASH
Aug 24, 2009, 3:40 PM
The Google Earth model is a little too far to the right at Church.

uakoops
Aug 24, 2009, 4:41 PM
That isn't just any tall ship, it's the Half Moon, the sloop Hudson sailed when he "discovered" the river.

Also, while they're putting up that connector, it looks like the north east side of the site is getting a major pour, the concrete looks to be street level now.

I think that's actually 1 level below the street.

theWatusi
Aug 24, 2009, 4:45 PM
Looks like there is another column up on the South side.

Puzzlecraft
Aug 24, 2009, 5:01 PM
Over the weekend, the heavy yellowish vertical steel brackets which hold the forms that were used for the successive N. Core concrete pours were removed. When this happened at the S. Core earlier this year, the core steel started going up within three weeks.

J_M_Tungsten
Aug 24, 2009, 5:37 PM
I love how fast this project is moving now, my pics from 5 days ago aren't even worth posting now!! Thats what I get for waiting.

Also does anyone know what the building just south of WTC7 is on the google earth renderings? Part of the Transit hub?

Zensteeldude
Aug 24, 2009, 5:54 PM
It's the big 3-headed connector that goes on top of the column that was put up on Friday. Zen, how much does that connector piece weigh?

I think I remember doing a calculation for it last year and came up with 23 tons. Almost the whole thing is made up of 6 inch thick plate.

vandelay
Aug 24, 2009, 6:43 PM
Also does anyone know what the building just south of WTC7 is on the google earth renderings? Part of the Transit hub?

It's the proposed Snohetta designed WTC visitors center, not sure what the status of it is.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/05/18/arts/19wtc_slide8.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/20/arts/design/20free.html?pagewanted=all

CGII
Aug 24, 2009, 7:06 PM
It's the proposed Snohetta designed WTC visitors center, not sure what the status of it is.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/05/18/arts/19wtc_slide8.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/20/arts/design/20free.html?pagewanted=all

That design is long scrapped. It looks like this, now:

http://www.national911memorial.org/images/content/photos/large_183939.jpg
national911memorial.org
http://www.national911memorial.org/images/content/photos/large_183941.jpg
national911memorial.org

Aleks
Aug 24, 2009, 7:12 PM
I think he means that small square building next to the Freedom Tower. What will be in that lot by the way? Will they make it into a plaza or build something on top?