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NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 21, 2012, 4:51 PM
the situation still the same.....no glass going up in quite a few days now....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7184/6916953525_b83f10f064_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6916953525/)
DSC_5564 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6916953525/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

:/ I wonder what's going on..I mean it's great with the new steel & all but the glass is the best part!

CarlosV
Feb 21, 2012, 4:59 PM
for me the best part is seeing the "skeleton" of the tower...once the glass is up (hopefully) we will never see it again...... :(

more columns....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/6917011171_35c81a7e10_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6917011171/)
DSC_5571 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6917011171/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 21, 2012, 5:05 PM
Oh I didn't even think of that. Well let's just enjoy it while it's there

pnapp1
Feb 21, 2012, 5:32 PM
I'm going to take a stab at why the curtain wall has not progressed in over a month.

I think they are letting the core rise higher first to add stability to the building. I have heard that there is/was a lot of movement of the tower because of the wind load. The higher the curtain wall goes the more force is put on the building. Allowing the core to rise first as well as leaving the upper floors open would help alleviate the issue.

Again, the is just a hypothesis but makes sense (to me anyway :yes:).

Maybe Allan could elaborate?

Yankee fan for life
Feb 21, 2012, 6:03 PM
Here is a question for you guys when will you consider 1wtc will surpass Trump International Hotel by its communication platform ring or its spire.

steveve
Feb 21, 2012, 6:19 PM
davideglasgow (http://www.flickr.com/photos/18188939@N06/6914019367/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6914019367_9f403bb3b0_b.jpg



love how the world financial center is just stepping stones that lead up to the climax, 1WTC. just epic.

pnapp1
Feb 21, 2012, 6:28 PM
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/426260_260737924003453_109423129134934_585446_734315574_n.jpg
Image via WTC Progress Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 21, 2012, 6:50 PM
Here is a question for you guys when will you consider 1wtc will surpass Trump International Hotel by its communication platform ring or its spire.

Definitely the communication ring...the roof is 21 feet below the spire of the Trump Tower which is 1,389 feet. Technically it's surpassed already by roof height, 1,070 feet.

NewYorkDominates
Feb 21, 2012, 6:51 PM
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/426260_260737924003453_109423129134934_585446_734315574_n.jpg
Image via WTC Progress Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress

Is that from today?I doubt it.

CarlosV
Feb 21, 2012, 7:27 PM
now you know better than that!!!! :shrug: NO


work progress so far.....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/6917757783_59321b6921_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6917757783/)
DSC_5572 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6917757783/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

NewYorkDominates
Feb 21, 2012, 7:39 PM
now you know better than that!!!! :shrug: NO


work progress so far.....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/6917757783_59321b6921_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6917757783/)
DSC_5572 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6917757783/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

Is just looked so huge.Also,were the columns installed core columns?

SoaringSkylines
Feb 21, 2012, 7:41 PM
WHY DO I KEEP ON HAVING THESE DREAMS ABOUT ONE WORLD TRADE CENTER!!??

I had a dream last night that I was looking at a condo on like the 70th floor of the WTC and it was HUGE? It was the weirdest thing ever.... In my dream, 1WTC had condos in it! Haha!

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 21, 2012, 8:30 PM
mariab (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&page=784)

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14916&d=1329855597

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14917&d=1329855600

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14915&d=1329855593

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14918&d=1329855604

Roadcruiser1
Feb 21, 2012, 9:42 PM
Is just looked so huge.Also,were the columns installed core columns?

Because only the core columns were delivered. :haha:

steveve
Feb 21, 2012, 9:43 PM
Finally got around to stitching this photo together... It's a bit old, (from the beginning of the month), but anyway:
From the 53rd floor of the hilton
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7180/6918404499_2f09759e59_b.jpg

Yankee fan for life
Feb 21, 2012, 9:48 PM
What are the chances now that the core columns are being installed to the 93 floor that the perimeter columns will extend to the 100 floor?

Roadcruiser1
Feb 21, 2012, 9:54 PM
What are the chances now that that core columns are being installed to the 93 floor that the perimeter columns will extend to the 100 floor?

Topping off will be on April 2012. The installing of the telecommunications and the mast will start in May and June 2012, and be completed by December 2012.

marshall
Feb 21, 2012, 10:01 PM
Do you think that they will not install anymore or much more glass until the steel tops out? Or will we see a bit more glass before spring? :)

Roadcruiser1
Feb 21, 2012, 10:46 PM
Do you think that they will not install anymore or much more glass until the steel tops out? Or will we see a bit more glass before spring? :)

They aren't done with the concrete work...

Yankee fan for life
Feb 21, 2012, 11:02 PM
Amazed that their were some steel erected today considering how windy it was today the must really want 1 wtc to be top out by mid April.

sw5710
Feb 21, 2012, 11:32 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7017/6786871123_e12f6876a5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6786871123/)
One WTC | Diagram Update | January 30th, 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6786871123/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

Larger version (http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/8913/1wtc300112.jpg)[/QUOTE


"Click on larger version then click on the image" The steel columns placed at the core today include floor 92m at 1,194' 8'' and bring 1WTC to the 93rd floor or 1,208' 4'' + splices

jd3189
Feb 21, 2012, 11:56 PM
Can't wait until this tower can look the ESB right in the eye.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 22, 2012, 12:20 AM
They aren't done with the concrete work...

So what does that mean then...?

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 22, 2012, 12:21 AM
Also it's cool to think that this building is currently one of 5 buildings to ever surpass a roof height of more than 1,200 feet ever in American history :)

jd3189
Feb 22, 2012, 12:25 AM
:previous: Hopefully it won't be the last. New York at one point actually succeeded Chicago in the number of structures that were above 1,200 in rooftop and it has to happen again if the latter isn't offering anything anymore.

Roadcruiser1
Feb 22, 2012, 12:26 AM
So what does that mean then...?

The tarp can't be removed until they are done. This halts the glass progress.

NewYorkDominates
Feb 22, 2012, 12:50 AM
The tarp can't be removed until they are done. This halts the glass progress.
Do you know if the both 1WTC and 4WTC have no construction-related deaths?I remember 7WTC having 2 deaths.Asking because I was in a thread saying the originals had 7 construction-related deaths.

CalibratedZeus
Feb 22, 2012, 12:58 AM
Taken today from JC. Please do not repost, etc. without my permission


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7204/6919062613_8d6fe53edf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919062613/)
DSC_0974 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919062613/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6772948146_d8cc83cc99_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6772948146/)
DSC_1097 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6772948146/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/6919063241_02454b2cef_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919063241/)
DSC_1056 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919063241/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/6772947274_68a77192fc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6772947274/)
DSC_1040 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6772947274/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6772946682_f8e0ea6cfb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6772946682/)
DSC_0972 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6772946682/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6919063975_634a18c8aa_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919063975/)
DSC_1098 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919063975/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7207/6919064389_2f67bb12f9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919064389/)
DSC_1103 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919064389/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

Rockin panorama in the works right now too, either tonight or tomorrow night I will post it....:notacrook:

J_M_Tungsten
Feb 22, 2012, 12:59 AM
^completely different styles of architecture. That's like comparing the Chrysler building and BofA

NewYorkDominates
Feb 22, 2012, 1:00 AM
Sorry for double post.

Davidsam52
Feb 22, 2012, 1:11 AM
love how the world financial center is just stepping stones that lead up to the climax, 1WTC. just epic.

Excellent! Post this pic to Airliners.net!!

NYguy
Feb 22, 2012, 1:11 AM
tgasparotti (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30177611@N02/6918643621/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7065/6918643621_482ce791ed_b.jpg



Joel Raskin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelrnyc/6915965417/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6915965417_ace0d3bd39_b.jpg



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6894690471_a869637b1f_b.jpg



htmccann (http://www.flickr.com/photos/htmccann/6918442241/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6918442241_60e5e1a1c3_b.jpg



Nikos Vosniadis (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikosnyc/6913830473/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7057/6913830473_766a7747ff_b.jpg



g.bremer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghbremer/6913692825/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7040/6913692825_92bc9ece2b_b.jpg

NewYorkDominates
Feb 22, 2012, 1:21 AM
[QUOTE=NYguy;5600008]


Joel Raskin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelrnyc/6915965417/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6915965417_ace0d3bd39_b.jpg



Crying in tears by this bemoth beauty over looming the man walking about his buisness just before sunset.Man tears can't handle such beauty.

CalibratedZeus
Feb 22, 2012, 1:36 AM
A teaser, the rough draft....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/6773027634_4705a18f0b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6773027634/)
RoughDraft (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6773027634/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

Needs a lot of work, prolly going to take me a while. As it stands right now the image is 10" tall by 60" wide. Flikr will only let me post it small, anyone know how I get the full effect, or at least a much larger version to post on here?

WorldTradeCenter
Feb 22, 2012, 1:43 AM
for me the best part is seeing the "skeleton" of the tower...once the glass is up (hopefully) we will never see it again...... :(

more columns....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/6917011171_35c81a7e10_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6917011171/)
DSC_5571 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6917011171/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

Yeah....hopefully... http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/tourist_wtc_bomb_threat_xaKxPXyhs5lh44OSIjavcL

WorldTradeCenter
Feb 22, 2012, 1:44 AM
for me the best part is seeing the "skeleton" of the tower...once the glass is up (hopefully) we will never see it again...... :(



Yeah....hopefully... http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/tourist_wtc_bomb_threat_xaKxPXyhs5lh44OSIjavcL

TBone7281
Feb 22, 2012, 2:00 AM
Needs a lot of work, prolly going to take me a while. As it stands right now the image is 10" tall by 60" wide. Flikr will only let me post it small, anyone know how I get the full effect, or at least a much larger version to post on here?

That's as big as they let you have unless you have a pay account.

NewYorkDominates
Feb 22, 2012, 2:21 AM
Yeah....hopefully... http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/tourist_wtc_bomb_threat_xaKxPXyhs5lh44OSIjavcL

What an idiot,"I don't approve this tower...".Does he not know most workers(also,plenty of iron workers have relative members who worked during the twin and other WTC construction)working at this site have dedicated the time to perfect such buildings in honor of there dads/grandpas and those fallen who made the twins what they were.:hell:

CalibratedZeus
Feb 22, 2012, 3:12 AM
Having some fun....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6919308909_7ecb955198_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919308909/)
Glow (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919308909/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7189/6919367919_5de376f766_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919367919/)
Wired (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6919367919/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 22, 2012, 3:14 AM
Dylan Barnes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dylanbarnes/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6910406247_18a9885490_b.jpg

C R Hoetzl (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36607879@N00/6907163227/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7195/6907163227_9fbc3e8434_b.jpg

Andrey Gatash (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7054/6907517659_66c6cf6210_b.jpg)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7054/6907517659_66c6cf6210_b.jpg

Nataraj Metz (http://www.flickr.com/photos/natarajam/)

A bit old

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/6912267027_d2e009a854_b.jpg

iParham (http://www.flickr.com/photos/opticalserenity/6773064058/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7188/6773064058_d0bebed171_b.jpg

Do you know if the both 1WTC and 4WTC have no construction-related deaths?I remember 7WTC having 2 deaths.Asking because I was in a thread saying the originals had 7 construction-related deaths.

Not to my account, I think there have only been minor-major injuries, but NO deaths.

BAR1967 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bar1967/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6773022530_b9cd5ec637_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7180/6919141303_716b64a7d0_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6773024870_12acc84b11_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/6773021612_e425ed977e_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6773021346_3427f9010b_b.jpg

jd3189
Feb 22, 2012, 3:28 AM
iParham (http://www.flickr.com/photos/opticalserenity/6773064058/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7188/6773064058_d0bebed171_b.jpg

Wow, it already dominates the Beekman. Should be more apparent in Brooklyn as it reaches T/O.

NewYorkDominates
Feb 22, 2012, 3:34 AM
Andrey Gatash (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7054/6907517659_66c6cf6210_b.jpg)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7054/6907517659_66c6cf6210_b.jpg

This one reminds me of a movie scene but with the twin towers.Can anyone help me find which movie it was?Thanks

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 22, 2012, 3:42 AM
This one reminds me of a movie scene but with the twin towers.Can anyone help me find which movie it was?Thanks

Men in Black?

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 22, 2012, 3:47 AM
Men in Black?


I was gonna say Working Girl, or etc.

sbarn
Feb 22, 2012, 5:03 AM
A teaser, the rough draft....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/6773027634_4705a18f0b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6773027634/)
RoughDraft (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/6773027634/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

Needs a lot of work, prolly going to take me a while. As it stands right now the image is 10" tall by 60" wide. Flikr will only let me post it small, anyone know how I get the full effect, or at least a much larger version to post on here?

Are you stitching together this panorama manually? Are you using a recent version of photoshop?

If so, I recommend you use the "photomerge" function. Its under the file menu>automate>photomerge. It will stitch together the images automatically and usually blend the coloring pretty well. Highly recommend it.

CalibratedZeus
Feb 22, 2012, 11:57 AM
Are you stitching together this panorama manually? Are you using a recent version of photoshop?

If so, I recommend you use the "photomerge" function. Its under the file menu>automate>photomerge. It will stitch together the images automatically and usually blend the coloring pretty well. Highly recommend it.

I had tried that first, with the way it auto stitches and aligns the images it makes the panorama into a crazy u shape, and if I try to bend it the building get distorted like crazy. So manual stitch it is. Like I said thats a rough draft,I just wanted to give a preview of what I jave in the works.

CarlosV
Feb 22, 2012, 12:47 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6920295815_78ee46dec4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6920295815/)
DSC_5575 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6920295815/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

upNaway
Feb 22, 2012, 2:34 PM
Looks like there new steel arrived on site, 3 trailer loads on the south side and one trailer load on the north side :)


http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/

Dense_Electric
Feb 22, 2012, 2:54 PM
It looks like this building will be done sooner rather than later, now that the worst of winter has more or less passed. Hopefully there will be no more two-month gaps with no steel :)

Misty2k
Feb 22, 2012, 3:09 PM
Nataraj Metz (http://www.flickr.com/photos/natarajam/)

A bit old

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/6912267027_d2e009a854_b.jpg

iParham (http://www.flickr.com/photos/opticalserenity/6773064058/)



May I ask what the double tower in the foreground here is? It's stunning!


Dee

alan88
Feb 22, 2012, 3:09 PM
we are winded out again this am, 40 mph at top and weather service says hi winds starting sometime friday, definitely saturday and possibly another wind event next monday. Even though snow has been minimal all these weather fronts bring winds.

pnapp1
Feb 22, 2012, 3:35 PM
May I ask what the double tower in the foreground here is? It's stunning!

Dee

That is the Beekman Tower or 8 Spruce Street.

marshall
Feb 22, 2012, 4:16 PM
[QUOTE=upNaway;5600552]Looks like there new steel arrived on site, 3 trailer loads on the south side and one trailer load on the north side :)


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Yay new steel! That's a good sign!

RockMont
Feb 22, 2012, 4:26 PM
[QUOTE=upNaway;5600552]Looks like there new steel arrived on site, 3 trailer loads on the south side and one trailer load on the north side :)


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Yay new steel! That's a good sign!



Awesome!

JACKinBeantown
Feb 22, 2012, 4:48 PM
BAR1967 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bar1967/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7180/6919141303_716b64a7d0_b.jpg

I love a nice color photo without overused filters.

uaarkson
Feb 22, 2012, 5:12 PM
:previous: Agreed.

Lawrence7
Feb 22, 2012, 7:46 PM
Original photo by BAR1967

Another photoshop render...

http://i43.tinypic.com/219vwhd.jpg

CarlosV
Feb 22, 2012, 8:42 PM
Future Landmark!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7042/6921391753_512948ac2e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6921391753/)
DSC_5578 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6921391753/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6921402023_ce72c977a7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6921402023/)
DSC_5577 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6921402023/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

Roadcruiser1
Feb 22, 2012, 8:42 PM
Original photo by BAR1967

Another photoshop render...

http://i43.tinypic.com/219vwhd.jpg

You really need to ask people for permission before using their pictures, but it's good work.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 22, 2012, 9:19 PM
I'm sorry but renders don't work for me. They make the building look animated, and not tall. I only like the transparencies Carlos does

SoaringSkylines
Feb 22, 2012, 9:40 PM
original photo by bar1967

another photoshop render...

http://i43.tinypic.com/219vwhd.jpg


THAT IS INCREDiBLE! :)

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 22, 2012, 11:39 PM
CVerwaal (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cverwaal/6775492292/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7062/6775492292_8d43e21851_b.jpg

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Feb 23, 2012, 12:09 AM
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Nice backdrop for a sports celebration! Go Giants!!:banana::banana::banana:

Davidsam52
Feb 23, 2012, 12:11 AM
Future Landmark!

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Carlos, it's ALREADY a landmark!:cheers::cheers::tup::tup:

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 23, 2012, 2:19 AM
Since I cannot take a camera on the ride with me, this is what you see from Kingda Ka at Six Flags Great Adventure in Jackson, NJ exactly 45 miles from New York..those towers are in lower manhattan (as of today) and that's One World Trade Center the tallest one if you can make it out and the Verrazano Bridge glistening to the far right.

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NYC GUY
Feb 23, 2012, 2:32 AM
^^^
Wow never knew it could be seen from Kingda Ka.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 23, 2012, 2:46 AM
^^^
Wow never knew it could be seen from Kingda Ka.

Yea ik for a long time I heard the "rumor" but I was cresting the top back in May on a clear night, and was surprise to see the skyline twinkling so far away

Rizzo
Feb 23, 2012, 6:05 AM
In theory they could be seen, but in reality it's nearly impossible. Atmospheric conditions would almost entirely obliterate visibility...even on a clear day. At night, surrounding light pollution would dilute any clarity in the shape or light intensity of the towers.

Temperature inversion may create a clearer view of the towers (acting like a big lens) but it's rare. Google earth ignores these conditions And what you are seeing is basically pixel extrapolation when it renders the image...not because that's what the towers would look like from that view, but because Google is trying to place pixels on the image where it understands that something is on the horizon, but can't display it with much accuracy. In higher resolution, those white lines would practically disappear.

I don't want this to turn into a debate or anything. I believe you'd see something, but it would be very difficult with the naked eye and definitely not as clear as the google image suggests.

Misty2k
Feb 23, 2012, 1:32 PM
That is the Beekman Tower or 8 Spruce Street.

Thank you. Am off to research...


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THE BIG APPLE
Feb 23, 2012, 2:03 PM
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NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 23, 2012, 2:05 PM
In theory they could be seen, but in reality it's nearly impossible. Atmospheric conditions would almost entirely obliterate visibility...even on a clear day. At night, surrounding light pollution would dilute any clarity in the shape or light intensity of the towers.

Temperature inversion may create a clearer view of the towers (acting like a big lens) but it's rare. Google earth ignores these conditions And what you are seeing is basically pixel extrapolation when it renders the image...not because that's what the towers would look like from that view, but because Google is trying to place pixels on the image where it understands that something is on the horizon, but can't display it with much accuracy. In higher resolution, those white lines would practically disappear.

I don't want this to turn into a debate or anything. I believe you'd see something, but it would be very difficult with the naked eye and definitely not as clear as the google image suggests.

you don't need to get scientific because that stuff does not happen as bad as you say it does. Like you said you can't see detail but you can easily see the silhouettes of the buildings, even Philadelphia and Atlantic City too on the other side. I've been on that ride 5 times & saw the skyline everytime, you can even make out the empire state building of you look quick enough. I don't think you should say that unless you've actually experienced it. It's not rare so I don't know what you're talking about..sorry for the off topic comment p.s. I even have a photo a worker took from the top so yea...

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Feb 23, 2012, 2:27 PM
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Duck From NY
Feb 23, 2012, 3:19 PM
Since I cannot take a camera on the ride with me, this is what you see from Kingda Ka at Six Flags Great Adventure in Jackson, NJ exactly 45 miles from New York..those towers are in lower manhattan (as of today) and that's One World Trade Center the tallest one if you can make it out and the Verrazano Bridge glistening to the far right.

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Interesting. The Verrazano is 682 feet, so I'm surprised you can't see more of Lower Manhattan because the bridge shouldn't be more than a two or three miles closer.

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Feb 23, 2012, 3:28 PM
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NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 23, 2012, 6:23 PM
Interesting. The Verrazano is 682 feet, so I'm surprised you can't see more of Lower Manhattan because the bridge shouldn't be more than a two or three miles closer.

Yes the buildings are there but I only made the WTC visible with the selection too so it could be seen easier. I kept the Verrazano just because it looked interesting

CarlosV
Feb 23, 2012, 6:42 PM
as of right now!

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Rizzo
Feb 23, 2012, 7:00 PM
you don't need to get scientific because that stuff does not happen as bad as you say it does. Like you said you can't see detail but you can easily see the silhouettes of the buildings, even Philadelphia and Atlantic City too on the other side. I've been on that ride 5 times & saw the skyline everytime, you can even make out the empire state building of you look quick enough. I don't think you should say that unless you've actually experienced it. It's not rare so I don't know what you're talking about..sorry for the off topic comment p.s. I even have a photo a worker took from the top so yea...

If you read my post, I never said I didn't believe you. I just don't believe there would be the clarity of the towers as the google image suggests. But you'd certainly see something on the horizon. Chicago towers are faintly visible across Lake Michigan...50 miles away. During certain atmospheric conditions visibility can increase.

It would be cool to see the photo you were able to get though.

CarlosV
Feb 23, 2012, 7:05 PM
Carlos, I hope you don't mind me asking, but I bet I'm not the only one who's dying to see one of your super cool manipulated "what's to come" shots. Please?

ps - admiring your sacrificial efforts to keep NY wet and save watah ;)

what do you want to see??? i'm a little confused...:shrug:

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OptimumPx
Feb 23, 2012, 7:09 PM
what do you want to see??? i'm a little confused...:shrug:
They're talking about where you put the transparent image of the completed tower over the actual one in your picture.

CarlosV
Feb 23, 2012, 7:14 PM
^^^
oh ok...I'll post it tonight :) thanks


btw, it is an amazing spring like day here in NYC!! almost 60 degrees!!!

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NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 23, 2012, 7:18 PM
If you read my post, I never said I didn't believe you. I just don't believe there would be the clarity of the towers as the google image suggests. But you'd certainly see something on the horizon. Chicago towers are faintly visible across Lake Michigan...50 miles away. During certain atmospheric conditions visibility can increase.

It would be cool to see the photo you were able to get though.

Sorry I Was really tired last night but yea it's not like you can see every tiny detail of the buildings...I'll post the pic

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 23, 2012, 9:55 PM
lowermanhattan.info (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx)

*The following information was last updated on February 17, 2012.

-Tower steel is now above floor 91. It is expected to top out in spring 2012.
-Facade installation is now above floor 70
-Concrete is now being installed above floor 86
-Installation of the 400-foot-tall antenna in spring 2012.
-Spray-on fireproofing underway
-Elevator shaft fit-out
-Multiple cranes on site for steel and concrete installation
-Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
-"Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
-Utility installation and tie-ins
-Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

crewex
Feb 23, 2012, 10:57 PM
They're talking about where you put the transparent image of the completed tower over the actual one in your picture.

Yes, i greatly enjoy seeing the transparent image of the work yet to be finished, layed over the work already done.

crewex
Feb 23, 2012, 11:07 PM
So, you think your cell phone is sketchy in some elevators......this building is going to place you in a metal box behind 1 meter of reinforced concrete, how much you want to bet that every phone call takes a hiatus for elevator travel in WTC1? lol, think they will install signal repeaters, or its just going to go with the territory of working in a terrorist target?

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 24, 2012, 12:02 AM
so we at 1,208?

JayPro
Feb 24, 2012, 12:41 AM
lowermanhattan.info (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx)

*The following information was last updated on February 17, 2012.

I'm assuming that the telecom ring is inclusive of what is described above as the antenna. I do so because that particular structural element isn't mentioned in the timeline.

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 24, 2012, 12:45 AM
^ Well the topping out point is the roof, and the telecom ring is above (situated) on the roof. The telecom ring needs to be built in order for the spire to rise. So yeah the telecom ring SHOULD be part of the spire phase.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 24, 2012, 3:05 AM
Anyone know how long the communications ring alone should take? I mean it's only 33 feet high...not counting the complicated radio stuff just the structure itself

Roadcruiser1
Feb 24, 2012, 3:29 AM
Anyone know how long the communications ring alone should take? I mean it's only 33 feet high...not counting the complicated radio stuff just the structure itself

I would say about a month. Give or take it could be more or less, but around a month. The mast would take almost half a year.

Roadcruiser1
Feb 24, 2012, 3:32 AM
So, you think your cell phone is sketchy in some elevators......this building is going to place you in a metal box behind 1 meter of reinforced concrete, how much you want to bet that every phone call takes a hiatus for elevator travel in WTC1? lol, think they will install signal repeaters, or its just going to go with the territory of working in a terrorist target?

It's above ground. It would get signal. The only place where you won't get any is in the subway tunnels.

MadGnome
Feb 24, 2012, 12:38 PM
So, you think your cell phone is sketchy in some elevators......this building is going to place you in a metal box behind 1 meter of reinforced concrete, how much you want to bet that every phone call takes a hiatus for elevator travel in WTC1? lol, think they will install signal repeaters, or its just going to go with the territory of working in a terrorist target?

That's not really a technical issue, but a policy decision. Despite what some idiot who doesn't know rf from a hole in the ground says, a cell signal isn't going to penatrate the core. But it's very low cost and simple to add pico, or femto repeaters for a few hundred bucks to cover spaces like elevator shafts if they want to.

CarlosV
Feb 24, 2012, 1:39 PM
cloudy, windy, cold and rainy :(

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uaarkson
Feb 24, 2012, 1:46 PM
I love rainy days in New York.

CarlosV
Feb 24, 2012, 1:53 PM
^
rain is good for the ducks ! :haha:

at least we are not getting snow....

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THE BIG APPLE
Feb 24, 2012, 2:58 PM
^ It's not that cold today.

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And people say One Liberty Plaza looks GOOD!

Servo
Feb 24, 2012, 3:40 PM
:previous: Wow... that's bad.

The cranes were spotted lifting steel this morning (over on SC). Maybe we'll see something happen...

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 24, 2012, 5:09 PM
^ Well something WILL eventually happen; inevitably.

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CarlosV
Feb 24, 2012, 6:05 PM
Carlos, I hope you don't mind me asking, but I bet I'm not the only one who's dying to see one of your super cool manipulated "what's to come" shots. Please?

ps - admiring your sacrificial efforts to keep NY wet and save watah ;)

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still cold, windy, foggy and rainy here in Gotham.... :(

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Dense_Electric
Feb 24, 2012, 6:10 PM
Is that new perimeter steel, or is that from the last jump?

Also holy ballsack someone needs to wash/repaint/whatever One Liberty Plaza. I'll freely admit that I love boxes, and that's just awful.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 24, 2012, 6:43 PM
NYC and all of NJ, & New England are in for wind gusts over 50 mph later today into tomorrow