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[2-TOWERS]

as long as we get an outdoor observation deck :)

[NYguy]

as long as we get an outdoor observation deck :)

You're not getting an outdoor observation deck up there, so forget about it.

[37TimPPG]

Does anyone know when the next load of steel beams is scheduled to be delivered for FT? I would think they would want the steel skeleton to keep pace with the south core?

[Kamatzu]

You're not getting an outdoor observation deck up there, so forget about it.
Anything is possible with the power of petitions!


...Wait.

[NYguy]

From morrongiello (http://flickr.com/photos/33965463@N00/)

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[NYguy]

From harveyc111 (http://flickr.com/photos/9577408@N06/)

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[theWatusi]

Watching the progress of what will be "underground" is fascinating.

[NYguy]

The 77 Hudson (Jersey City) website boasts views of the new WTC:


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[CGII]

Is it just me or are 1 and 2 WTC doubling the height of Chase?

At least it's refreshing to see a rendering that exaggerates the heights, for once.

[photoLith]

^^^
Those renders seem to show the correct height.

I really love the new WTC site. I think it will really push NYC into the 21st century, not that it doesnt already show that but there is a lack of really prominent modern buildings in NYC, at least modern 21st century buildings.

[Independence]

Looking at the FT/NWTC construction site today makes me think about the pictures of the old WTC being constructed... It seems that time has given us
the opportunity to watch a process that had already taken place about 40 years ago... :hyper:

[talltowers08]

Do you mean from such images as these ?
http://stj911.org/evidence/docs/site1099.jpg
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/enr/construction_2.jpg

[NYguy]

Is it just me or are 1 and 2 WTC doubling the height of Chase?

From that angle, you'll get that. From the Brooklyn waterfront it'll be reversed. The original WTC had that effect.

TravelingMango (http://flickr.com/photos/qchristopher/)
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[NYC4Life]

Those renders appear more accurate than the renders by Silverstein and the P.A., LOL.

[Independence]

Do you mean from such images as these ?
http://stj911.org/evidence/docs/site1099.jpg
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/enr/construction_2.jpg

Exactly! :D That's what I'm talkin about!

[NYC4Life]

How god awful was the West Side in that time period. The WTC was certainly a vast improvement, but the real change came with Battery Park City and the World Financial Center.

[CGII]

No kidding. Look at all the parking lots between West and Barclay.

[NYC4Life]

NY Times

October 20, 2008, 12:52 pm

Phantom Freedom Tower Visible to All

By David W. Dunlap

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David Dunlap/The New York Times
The core of the Freedom Tower at 1 World Trade Center is now visible above street level.


In the old days at the World Trade Center redevelopment project, elaborately staged events almost guaranteed that whatever milestone was being announced would not happen; at least, not in the time or form heralded from the lectern.

Having learned a painful lesson in public relations, officials are now content to let actual milestones speak for themselves.

Observant passers-by have been able to spot just such a turning point, now that the massive concrete core of 1 World Trade Center, the Freedom Tower, has emerged into public view from the depths of ground zero. On Oct. 10, Collavino Construction poured 520 cubic yards of concrete, raising the top of the core 14 feet, thereby bringing it 13 feet 8 inches above sidewalk level.

The walls of the core range from three to four feet thick. The concrete is extremely high strength, with a rating of 14,000 p.s.i. — that is, a strength under compression calculated at 14,000 pounds per square inch.
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey made no formal announcement, though it did note the moment on its World Trade Center Progress page.

Of course, there is a long, long way to go. Ultimately, the concrete core is planned to be 1,293 feet high, taller than the Empire State Building. And it is a fool’s game to predict when — or even if — that goal will be reached.

But it is growing harder to think of ground zero as a hole in the ground.


Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

[CHAPINM1]

:previous: I think they were short by 100 feet... :previous: Plus I don't like that "IF" nonsense...

[37TimPPG]

:previous: I think they were short by 100 feet... :previous: Plus I don't like that "IF" nonsense...

I agree. I thought it was a positive article...until they got to that "IF" crap! The Freedom Tower IS being built, WILL be completed...so will the media please knock off all the negative bulls**t!:whip:

[talltowers08]

Exactly! :D That's what I'm talkin about!

Good to hear man. we are gona see it happen all over again and tell our kids :) .

[Lecom]

The walls of the core range from three to four feet thick. The concrete is extremely high strength, with a rating of 14,000 p.s.i. — that is, a strength under compression calculated at 14,000 pounds per square inch.
3 to 4 feet thick? Ironically, in case of a future attack on New York, WTC will be one of the safest places to stay at.

[NYguy]

From katelynrushe (http://flickr.com/photos/30205500@N06/)

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[Kamatzu]

Amazing progress! Good to be able to finally look up at what is to be the new WTC.

Does anyone know for sure what's holding the north core up, and if it will make the south core wait until it catches up? That north 50% has been nagging at my curiosity, why's he seemingly asleep?

[theWatusi]

great progress

[A-K O.G.]

3-4 ft walls on one core, better safe then sorry..
History channel early 2001 broadcasted a doc on the world trade center, in particular the structural ingenuity of the towers..
Frank A. DeMartiti - Manager, WTC construction & Project Managment
"The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it,..
That was the largest plane at the time..
"I believe that the building could probably sustain multiple impacts of jet liners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door"
Learning from the past might, as Lecom suggested, make the nwtc safest after all, you might think 520 cub.ft of concrete is alot..because it is alot, but keep in mind thats 1 section of 1/2 the full core..a potential 6-8ft standing core could be in the P.A.'s needs of safety
Concrete takes time to set naturally and effectively, with less in the project natural cure time would be cut, another perk of constructing 2 seperate core structures. Perhaps keeping the south core many feet above the north will aid in swift construction of the 'overall' core with one not being dependent on the other, either way you look at it great progress and no worry, always plenty of time for the north core to catch up

[pattali]

3-4 ft walls on one core, better safe then sorry..
History channel early 2001 broadcasted a doc on the world trade center, in particular the structural ingenuity of the towers..
Frank A. DeMartiti - Manager, WTC construction & Project Managment
"The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it,..
That was the largest plane at the time..
"I believe that the building could probably sustain multiple impacts of jet liners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door"
Learning from the past might, as Lecom suggested, make the nwtc safest after all, you might think 520 cub.ft of concrete is alot..because it is alot, but keep in mind thats 1 section of 1/2 the full core..a potential 6-8ft standing core could be in the P.A.'s needs of safety
Concrete takes time to set naturally and effectively, with less in the project natural cure time would be cut, another perk of constructing 2 seperate core structures. Perhaps keeping the south core many feet above the north will aid in swift construction of the 'overall' core with one not being dependent on the other, either way you look at it great progress and no worry, always plenty of time for the north core to catch up

:previous: De Martini dead on 9.11 ...:( :(

From the last photos : Congrats to New yorker , happy to see clearly Freedom Tower growing :banana:

[37TimPPG]

Amazing progress! Good to be able to finally look up at what is to be the new WTC.

Does anyone know for sure what's holding the north core up, and if it will make the south core wait until it catches up? That north 50% has been nagging at my curiosity, why's he seemingly asleep?

It appears that the south core is right at the base of the tower crane...perhaps the plan is to build up the south core to the base of the tower crane AND THEN work on the north core??? When the north core is equal to the south core, they'll jack up both cranes and start again on the south core??? (Just a hunch):tup:

[talltowers08]

Will this part of the core be where it meets the lobby and the doors to the elevators ?

[Aleks]

Question: Will the office workers have to go through s screening progress every day they enter the tower? Or what? I understand that the tower is safe and all but if they try to make it too safe it can get annoying. Like having to go through a screening progress every day. What about visitors that want to visit the observation deck? Will every single visitor also have to be screened?

Nice to see that it's rising thought... Imo, all the action should move from the Spire thread to this one.

[HiddenMouse]

I'm sure the visitors will have to go through metal detectors, probably "puffer-sniffers" too, like at the Statue of Liberty. I don't know about the people that work there regularly, though.

[2-TOWERS]

a big difference from the 3 sheets of sheetrock, wow is this strong.

[Ilex]

Question: Will the office workers have to go through s screening progress every day they enter the tower? Or what? I understand that the tower is safe and all but if they try to make it too safe it can get annoying. Like having to go through a screening progress every day. What about visitors that want to visit the observation deck? Will every single visitor also have to be screened?

Nice to see that it's rising thought... Imo, all the action should move from the Spire thread to this one.Better safe than sorry. It's not too far fetched to assume that this tower will be a top choice for extremists (If there ever are any).

[drewmandan]

I'm sure the visitors will have to go through metal detectors, probably "puffer-sniffers" too, like at the Statue of Liberty. I don't know about the people that work there regularly, though.

Great. So good luck visiting the tower if you work with fertilizer.

[Wheelingman04]

I love seeing the progress. Keep it up!!

[Renton]

Exactly! :D That's what I'm talkin about!

Yeah, That part of Manhattan is worlds away from what we know today. Wild looking at the (Elevated West Side Highway) and no Battery Park city yet. Was too young to remember those days, but still have road maps showing the Elevated highway system that went all the way around Manhattan. Looking at some of the old pics i have on my pc of Lower Manhattan in the 1950's. Amazing how many piers dotted the waterfront. NYC was surely a sea trading city in its past.

[Ktulured55]

How tall is this so far? I guess you would just measure from actual street level and not bottom of foundation right? It does look above street level. Anyone know how many feet? :rolleyes:

[NYguy]

October 28 2008

A year from now, this view will be dominated by the Freedom Tower...

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Work continues down in the memorial...

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[NYC4Life]

That first photo will be dominated by all four towers.

[10101000]

I cannot wait until this is done, it will be so beautiful.....

[rich_200]

Sorry if someone have answered this before, but WHY is the South core growing that much faster than the North one?

[37TimPPG]

Sorry if someone have answered this before, but WHY is the South core growing that much faster than the North one?

I asked the same question and didn't get a response. So...the both of us would like to know why the south core is going up faster than the north one?:D

[CHAPINM1]

I love the distant shots of the structure and how it shows it finally beginning to rise from a distance!

[theWatusi]

I asked the same question and didn't get a response. So...the both of us would like to know why the south core is going up faster than the north one?:D

Due to the slow economy they are only building the South half of the tower at this time.

[NYC2ATX]

How can you build half a tower?

[NYguy]

I love the distant shots of the structure and how it shows it finally beginning to rise from a distance!

There is a growing sense of anticipation for what is to come, like a volcano waiting to erupt...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/104960398/large.jpg

When the documentary comes out of the rebuilding, we'll have witnessed it all.

[37TimPPG]

How can you build half a tower?


I think he was being sarcastic about only half the tower being built?????:rolleyes:

[NYC4Life]

Obviously the South Core alone can't support the entire structure.

[NYguy]

From much ado about nothing (http://flickr.com/photos/muchadoaboutnothing/)

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And a Freedom Tower flashback from rulecam (http://flickr.com/photos/rulecam/)

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[CHAPINM1]

The core of Tower 1 in that top pic from the southeast corner of the site is definetly easy to point out!

[37TimPPG]

Due to the slow economy they are only building the South half of the tower at this time.


Along with only half the steel:jester: and half the concrete:jester:

[Ilex]

Wow, I'm so glad that the current design is being built instead of the old proposals.

[Lt. Washburn]

Is the ground zero Earthcam down? I check it every day and it looks like it stopped working Saturday morning. Anyone know?

[NYC4Life]

This was also reported over at Wired New York, but they appear to be up and running now.

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/

[NYC2ATX]

Along with only half the steel:jester: and half the concrete:jester:

OMFG I totally thought they were serious for a sec. I got scared lmao. It's OK, I'm just an idiot. :rolleyes:

[NYguy]

http://www.azom.com/news.asp?newsID=14137

Timken to Supply Special Grade Steel for Freedom Tower Construction

October 16, 2008

The Timken Company announced today that it has supplied special bar quality steel for use in constructing the antenna tower for the Freedom Tower at the World Trade Center site in New York City.

Timken® steel will be used to build the supporting legs of the 450-foot-antenna tower on top of the building. Timken was selected as a supplier for the project by DCM Erectors Inc. of Toronto, Canada, which is the project’s steel erector and will build the tower’s 12-sided antenna. Tishman Construction Corporation of New York is serving as Construction Manager for the Freedom Tower.

The Freedom Tower, being built by the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, will stand 1,776 feet tall, and will serve as an inspirational and enduring beacon in the New York City skyline.

[Ghost]

By me (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghousti/) (from last week)

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[NYguy]

^ Very exciting times.

[talltowers08]

New crane on site its all white down in one of the footprints.

[NYC4Life]

By: morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33965463@N00/) - Flickr

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[eduardo88]

i'm so glad this project is finally rising above street level, this should shut all those who doubted it'd ever get built up!

[Independence]

Rise......rise up from the ashes.... :cheers:
rise up and get your crown of the skies!

[NYguy]

i'm so glad this project is finally rising above street level, this should shut all those who doubted it'd ever get built up!

Though why it was ever in doubt, I don't know. There have been major delays, sure. But the new WTC was always going to be built because it had to be. In that sense, it's different from other developments. It was only a matter of when it would be completed, not if. And with a project of this size, dates will change.

[37TimPPG]

Though why it was ever in doubt, I don't know. There have been major delays, sure. But the new WTC was always going to be built because it had to be. In that sense, it's different from other developments. It was only a matter of when it would be completed, not if. And with a project of this size, dates will change.

I don't know if it really was ever in doubt. Most likely it was just the media trying to cause trouble :yuck:

[eduardo88]

the media and a couple idiots on the forums...as NYguy said, there is no way i wouldn't be rebuilt, it would be stupid to think otherwise

[NYguy]

I am very excited to see construction moving above "ground zero", now more accurately called the WTC site.
There is NO denying the progress and the momentum as construction moves on all fronts.

NOVEMBER 1, 2008

Now that we are seeing movement above ground, I'm going to be taking a gazillion Freedom Tower photos. Here are the first hundred...:)


1. The infant Freedom Tower is already becoming an attraction at the site, as well it should be.

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2.
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3. "Honey, it's so huge..."
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4.
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5.
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6.
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7.
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8.
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9.
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10. New York loves a show, and the WTC site is fast becoming a great one

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11.
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12.
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14.
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20. The memorial rises around the old 1 WTC footprint, while the Freedom Tower rises in the background

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21.
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[NYC4Life]

Just seen these at Wired NY, Great update NYguy. The Freedom Tower's core has attratced much attention, and so far it's only structure to reach above street level. Imagine this site in a year from now, a forest of steel and concrete.

[Wheelingman04]

^ I cannot wait.

[gm_scott]

Just seen these at Wired NY, Great update NYguy. The Freedom Tower's core has attratced much attention, and so far it's only structure to reach above street level. Imagine this site in a year from now, a forest of steel and concrete.

I don't wanna wait another year. aha
But I guess good things come to those who wait.

[NYC4Life]

We've waited several years just to see a concrete core rise above street level.

[excel]

great updates thanks.

[talltowers08]

Im just wondering but how many more floors have to be build until its the lobby level ? it cant be many now and when will the last side of the towers steel be errected and in view ?

[America 117]

sooo...
when are they starting work on the other towers??????

[CoolCzech]

Well, I've been too preoccupied with the elections to give this site much attention, but now that that's over with... WOW! So much progress all of a sudden! I never thought I'd see it...

[M II A II R II K]

Yea finally something of substance to see.

[talltowers08]

Im just wondering but how many more floors have to be build until its the lobby level ? it cant be many now and when will the last side of the towers steel be errected and in view ?

[djvandrake]

Awesome set of pics NYGuy. Thanks for those. So good to see this progress. :tup:

[Just-In-Cali]

The picture where there are people standing in front of a large bank of windows overlooking the site, is the the WFC? Thats an awesome spot to watch progress from slightly above grade.

[photoLith]

It seems as though the tower has been at pretty much the same level for weeks now. Is it not rising fast due to all the work that has to go into prepping the ground floors with wiring and all that jazz?

[MercurySky]

Where should construction be by next September?

[Duffstuff129]

When these four buildings were first announced, I was very worried that they would never become as iconic as the Twin Towers. Yet, as I study them more, I realize that individually they seem rather weak, but like the Twin Towers, they are a sort of package deal that really strike you when they are all seen together.

Anyway, its absolutely great to see the Freedom Tower above ground (sort of)! Finally New York's skyline will grow back better than before!

[CoolCzech]

The picture where there are people standing in front of a large bank of windows overlooking the site, is the the WFC? Thats an awesome spot to watch progress from slightly above grade.

Yeah, the Winter Garden pavilion at the World Financial Center. It was heavily damaged during the attacks, too, and the original grove of 50 foot tall palm trees it shelters died. All has been restored.

[NYguy]

Yeah, the Winter Garden pavilion at the World Financial Center. It was heavily damaged during the attacks, too, and the original grove of 50 foot tall palm trees it shelters died. All has been restored.

People often forget what a mess Downtown was beyond ground zero after 9/11. All of the surrounding buildings were damaged, it look like a war zone. However, the first rebuilding was of those surrounding towers, the first trickling of a returning vitality to the area. That was simultaneous with the 6 month ground zero cleanup, later followed by the return of 1 & 9 service through the site to the SI ferry, and later still by restored PATH service. These were all individual steps that played a role in bringing Downtown back. The most important step is the return of the WTC office space, which we are now on our way to seeing.

[NYguy]

From skynews (http://flickr.com/photos/sky-news/)

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Long way to go...

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[America 117]

When these four buildings were first announced, I was very worried that they would never become as iconic as the Twin Towers. Yet, as I study them more, I realize that individually they seem rather weak,


what do you mean by week?
do you mean the building's strength is week. or the way it looks alone? :shrug:

[Duffstuff129]

what do you mean by week?
do you mean the building's strength is week. or the way it looks alone? :shrug:

They way they look alone. What I'm saying is when you look at say, Tower 2 by itself, it doesn't really look incredibly striking, but when you put it with the other 3 buildings, it could damn near knock you down in amazement. I was speaking relatively of course, with what I said earlier. All of the towers are very nice by themselves. In short: The grouping of towers increases the beauty factor exponentially.

[NYguy]

From Vince Westbroek (http://flickr.com/photos/westbroek/)

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[Sight-Seer]

This might be slightly off-topic, but what happened to that building near the WTC that was damaged on 9/11 and had to be disassembled. Did that ever happen?

[CGII]

It is happening. Last time I was at the site (maybe two months ago) it looked to be a good 20 floors tall.

[lakegz]

^ you mean 20 feet tall? for me it seems like the core has been jutting out a few floors forever now.

[America 117]

^^^ he's not talking about the freedom tower, he's talking about another building that there tacking down ever so slowly.

[Austin55]

Yeah, And what about Ftterman hall or whatever it was called? The thread seems to have gone.

[NYguy]

Yeah, And what about Ftterman hall or whatever it was called? The thread seems to have gone.

The state and city have a plan, but the city hasn't agreed to its share yet. Here you can see it still standing on the right.

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[10101000]

They are moving slow

[talltowers08]

How many floors till it reaches the lobby floor

[NYguy]

From Gelliot615 (http://flickr.com/photos/31209813@N05/)

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[CHAPINM1]

:previous: Great shot of the progress with Donnie Wahlberg! :haha: One can easily see the progress of Tower 1... :yes:

BTW, it is really hard to believe that after all these years that ramp is finally coming out!!!

[NYguy]

Yeah, that ramp leads into the 1 WTC footprint...

From morrongiello (http://flickr.com/photos/33965463@N00/)

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[NYguy]

Yeah, And what about Ftterman hall or whatever it was called? The thread seems to have gone.

A little more from today's Times (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/a-hint-of-progress-at-fiterman-hall-damaged-on-911/)

A breakthrough may be on the horizon, however. An announcement is expected on Thursday morning whose magnitude can probably be gauged from the fact that no one involved — not the mayor’s office, not the Assembly speaker’s office, not the City University of New York, not the Dormitory Authority of the State of New York — would talk about Fiterman Hall on Wednesday afternoon.

[Lt. Washburn]

I've been watching that scaffolding for ages along the tub wall and I noticed large sections coming down over the past week (but I've been fooled in the past to thinking it was coming down). If they really are finished with that wall, finally, and get that ramp out, then hopefully there will be rapid progress on building out the memorial as that one corner, where they've had space to work, actually went up fairly quickly and extensively. At least I can hope.