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NewYorkDominates
Jan 21, 2013, 6:08 PM
"...The first brushed stroke on a portrait,
Or the last floor of the Freedom Tower,
Jutting into the sky,that yields to our resilience,..."
Words from the poet Richard Blanco at the Inaguration.
Jonas Fredwall Karlsson
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/02/nyc-crane-engineers-one57-hurricane-sandy/_jcr_content/par/cn_contentwell/par-main/cn_pagination_contai/cn_image.size.one-57-engineers.jpg
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/02/nyc-crane-engineers-one57-hurricane-sandy
MadGnome
Jan 21, 2013, 6:52 PM
Broadcasters moving here would add about 4 million potential viewers in N.J. and on L.I.
Or, 162 viewers if you weed out the ones who haven't used an antenna in ten years.
NYguy
Jan 21, 2013, 7:31 PM
"...The first brushed stroke on a portrait,
Or the last floor of the Freedom Tower,
Jotting into the sky,that yields to our resilience,..."
Words from the poet Richard Blanco at the Inaguration.
Yes, it was nice to get a mention in the Inaugural Poem (One Today).
...One sky: since the Appalachians and Sierras claimed
their majesty, and the Mississippi and Colorado worked
their way to the sea. Thank the work of our hands:
weaving steel into bridges, finishing one more report
for the boss on time, stitching another wound
or uniform, the first brush stroke on a portrait,
or the last floor on the Freedom Tower
jutting into a sky that yields to our resilience.
Full text...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/today-richard-blanco-poem-read-barack-obama-inauguration/story?id=18274653
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Broadcasters moving here would add about 4 million potential viewers in N.J. and on L.I.
Or, 162 viewers if you weed out the ones who haven't used an antenna in ten years.
More on Durst's plans for the antenna...
http://www.radioworld.com/article/developer-plans-broadcast-spire-for--wtc-in-new-york/213795
Durst expects its new broadcast center at 1 WTC to generate more than $10 million in rents and fees from broadcasters annually. Upfront capital costs to build the antenna are projected to be approximately $7.4 million, according to the developers. Projected total cost for the new building is now estimated at $3.9 billion, according to the NY Daily News.
Durst also operates rooftop broadcast facilities atop 4 Times Square in midtown Manhattan. The development firm is promoting the 1 WTC antenna as the city’s premium broadcast antenna platform. It plans to market both its locations to broadcasters with 1 WTC serving as a primary site with redundant power and 4 Times Square as backup, Durst stated in a press release.
The Empire State Building, 1,250 feet tall with a 204-foot antenna, is home to 19 FM stations — 14 on the master FM antenna — and most of the city’s digital television transmitters. Many radio and television broadcasters migrated to Empire after the collapse of the World Trade Center’s twin towers in the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. The former WTC’s North Tower featured a 360-foot broadcast mast.
A report in the Wall Street Journal said the Empire State Building generated $16.1 million in rent from broadcasters in 2010, according to securities filings with the SEC. Malkin Holdings, owner of the Empire State Building, did not respond to messages left by Radio World for this story. Jim Stagnitto, director of engineering for New York Public Radio, said he believes broadcasters transmitting signals from Empire will take a wait-and-see stance on 1 WTC. The Empire State Building’s rooftop facilities include nearly every radio and television broadcaster in the city. It’s long been rumored that the master FM antenna tower on Empire eventually will need to be re-built. Olkowski said he’s aware of no imminent plans to do so...... The Empire State Building also has what is referred to as the “mini-master” antenna, which replaced three separate panel antennas in 1996. It is home to WQHT(FM), WCBS(FM) and WPLJ(FM). “Empire has been the only player in town for over a decade. I believe competition is a good thing. The new tower will give broadcasters more options. That’s always good,” Olkowski said. He reported that Clear Channel and CBS currently are rebuilding some of their facilities at Empire.
-Filipe-
Jan 21, 2013, 9:32 PM
those pictures are great!!
Thaniel
Jan 21, 2013, 10:05 PM
A view from Connecticut...
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That's amazing. I didn't know you could see it that far away. Is that picture from Greenwich, Conn.? That's where my brother lives.
So cool that you can see the ESB too.
Thaniel
Jan 21, 2013, 10:17 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8465/8398896971_d7f0e5772f_o.jpg
Such a good looking building. It's amazing to have watched it grow from a hole in the ground over the last 3 years on here. I can't wait to see it in person.
CCs77
Jan 22, 2013, 1:48 AM
it looks like OLD GREENWICH private beach...my Aunt lives there and i go there all thew time....its awesome view....I have pics of the former TWINS froim that beach
That's amazing. I didn't know you could see it that far away. Is that picture from Greenwich, Conn.? That's where my brother lives.
So cool that you can see the ESB too.
Yes, it was taken from Greenwich, CT, precisaly from Tod's Point Beach AKA Greenwich Point (the picture is contained in an album called "A walk in Tod's Point")
Very cool picture, you can appreciate the earth's curvature (for example you can't see the deck of the Verrazano, obscured by the sea)
It would be nice to see a picture from the same point, 4 or 5 years from now, when 432 Park, HY and maybe other skyscraper are finished or well ahead in their construction.
By the way, it is about 49 km. away from Lower Manhattan.
Here it is a similar picture, you can also see, under the tree, the buildings of New Rochelle.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8359/8336409392_920ba5b98a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/openmecarefully/8336409392/)
Sunset over LI Sound (http://www.flickr.com/photos/openmecarefully/8336409392/) por hsalov (http://www.flickr.com/people/openmecarefully/), en Flickr
JayPro
Jan 22, 2013, 2:22 AM
That's amazing. I didn't know you could see it that far away. Is that picture from Greenwich, Conn.? That's where my brother lives.
So cool that you can see the ESB too.
This is one of a *choice* handful of Sound-view pics of the Apple....A *wonderful* shot, this.
FYI, The towers of the Throg's Neck Bridge are to the left peeking above the tree-line, and the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge is almost dead-center in the photo. And I think JC's tallest is the very first high-rise you see from the left.
The Skyline view is so incredible that I'm still trying to figure out what building that is which marks the space between Midtown and Downtown. Trump maybe?
Edit: @CCs77: Thank you for the distance info (49 km= 30.44&c miles). Distance-wise, this is essentially tantamount to an unimpeded view the City from Jayne's Hill located about a mile from Long Island's Nassau/Suffolk county border. FYI, it's also the highest peak on Long Island @ max. 400' ASL, and an *extremely* short drive from my home.
The vista I just described would certainly lend itself to considerably greater detail owing to the height of the vantage point. IOW, if this were taken from Jayne's Hill, the Verrazano almost certainly *would* be visible, but only with the aid of an *extremely* high-powered lens. Also, as mentioned in another post, the "Big V"'s 693' towers--nearly 100' higher than the LIPA stacks in Northport, *themselves* reportedly visible from as far inland as the Hudson Palisades on a clear day--would surely be seen to tip towards each other due to the earth's curvature.
And yes indeed, the cityscape come year 2015 should be a sight indeed...I'm thinking possibly twice as massive as right now(?)!
Oh BTW...Have I mentioned, to the point of this thread, that 1WTC looks simply immense, even from that distance?
I feel so small........:eek:
AlphaCentauri
Jan 22, 2013, 3:44 AM
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bigreach
Jan 22, 2013, 4:55 AM
What sits on the ESB looks much more like a spire than, what will be on 1WTC. Strip all the eqipment from ESB, make it look Permanant or a spire and let it be the cities tallest again
Private Dick
Jan 22, 2013, 5:05 AM
Yes, it was taken from Greenwich, CT, precisaly from Tod's Point Beach AKA Greenwich Point (the picture is contained in an album called "A walk in Tod's Point")
Very cool picture, you can appreciate the earth's curvature (for example you can't see the deck of the Verrazano, obscured by the sea)
I don't think that is the Verrazano Bridge though. From Greenwich, the line of sight in that direction covers Queens and Brooklyn before getting to the Verrazano Bridge. Plus, that's not the angle of the Verrazano one would see from Greenwich. I'm pretty sure that's the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge.
Either way, awesome photo!
JayPro
Jan 22, 2013, 5:45 AM
I don't think that is the Verrazano Bridge though. From Greenwich, the line of sight in that direction covers Queens and Brooklyn before getting to the Verrazano Bridge. Plus, that's not the angle of the Verrazano one would see from Greenwich. I'm pretty sure that's the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge.
Either way, awesome photo!
Bridge towers @ left above tree-line: Throg's Neck
Bridge near mid-photo: Bronx-Whitestone.
So help me, Zod. ;)
mrnyc
Jan 22, 2013, 11:37 AM
yeah def the northern queens bridges not the verrazano. regardless, the shots from connecticut are stunners. fun to see the skyline so visible from there. i dont remember that view from visits or maybe i have just forgotten as its been so long since i was on the beach on the northside of the sound.
NYguy
Jan 22, 2013, 2:12 PM
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CCs77
Jan 22, 2013, 3:28 PM
I don't think that is the Verrazano Bridge though. From Greenwich, the line of sight in that direction covers Queens and Brooklyn before getting to the Verrazano Bridge. Plus, that's not the angle of the Verrazano one would see from Greenwich. I'm pretty sure that's the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge.
Either way, awesome photo!
Bridge towers @ left above tree-line: Throg's Neck
Bridge near mid-photo: Bronx-Whitestone.
So help me, Zod. ;)
Yes, I think you are right, it must be the Bronx-Whitestone. Drawing a straight line in GE, the Verrazano should be slightly to the left of the Bronx-Whitestone, could it be those little things barely visible above the horizon, over that guy or girl bend over with the blue sweater? By the way the Verrazano is about 59 km. away from this point.
yeah def the northern queens bridges not the verrazano. regardless, the shots from connecticut are stunners. fun to see the skyline so visible from there. i dont remember that view from visits or maybe i have just forgotten as its been so long since i was on the beach on the northside of the sound.
I guess that it is not an every day view, it must be pretty good atmospheric conditions, since it is so far away. A light haze could be enough to obscure that view.
sw5710
Jan 22, 2013, 8:12 PM
I also know you can see NYC from the Mt Beacon area 53 air miles north from 1WTC at 1500 or 1600' MSL on the clearest days.
forj
Jan 22, 2013, 8:26 PM
the Verrazano should be slightly to the left of the Bronx-Whitestone, could it be those little things barely visible above the horizon, over that guy or girl bend over with the blue sweater? By the way the Verrazano is about 59 km. away from this point.
I think that is quite likely - im actually not sure what else could account for those two points sticking up over the horizon. dont forget that the Verrazano is in the top 10 or so as far as tallest bridges in the world at 211 meters. i dont think there is anything in that sight path that is very tall, other than the Verrazano
http://www.edgeoftheburger.com/fileupload/uploads/images/verrazano.jpg
http://www.edgeoftheburger.com/fileupload/uploads/images/verrazano_maybe.jpg
sterlippo1
Jan 22, 2013, 8:51 PM
i REALLY think that is the Verrazano. Not only is it tall, but it's also long and seems to be in the correct spot. Just an incredible bridge, only the Golden Gate beats it in beauty, IMO. Sorry to go off topic
NYguy
Jan 22, 2013, 8:58 PM
:order: Ok, we're getting way off course here. It's simply a view, one of many. Give it a rest.
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NewYorkDominates
Jan 22, 2013, 9:12 PM
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NYCrules
Jan 23, 2013, 1:00 AM
I think the spire in this rendition should be amazing along with the base...http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/104641641/original.jpg
forj
Jan 23, 2013, 1:30 AM
I think the spire in this rendition should be amazing along with the base..
But neither the spire nor the base in the current plan match that rendition. Unless this was just hard to read sarcasm :shrug:
It will still look great - anyone have an equivalent render like that with the spire and base shown together in the current plan?
ThatOneGuy
Jan 23, 2013, 1:39 AM
The joint and the Chinese food box were removed, but the current renders look not so bad.
http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/2012/08/1WTC_DayViewfromWHotel_Large.jpg
The plaza blockage was the worst redesign for this tower. Closes it off so much...
kpdrummer82
Jan 23, 2013, 2:01 AM
http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/2012/08/1WTC_DayViewfromWHotel_Large.jpg
I don't know about everyone else but when I look at this compared to the original "joint" and "chinese food box" this looks taller...
Kittywhompus
Jan 23, 2013, 2:14 AM
Personally, I miss the "Chinese food box" base! The re-done "spire" is not too exciting as many have expressed their opinion on here like me. I am wondering though if the the round "telecommunication ring" is now going to be just plain also? :shrug: I at least thought the previous original drawings of the t.-ring added a crown effect which looked good. :rolleyes:
Like all, we will have to wait to see the final results and then we can judge.
LibraryTower
Jan 23, 2013, 2:24 AM
LOL the joint and the Chinese food box, that sure made my day. The new renderings look excellent. Surprised to see how fast glass erection is in the winter, they're just unfazed by those winds.
Jolly good show
NYCrules
Jan 23, 2013, 2:25 AM
But as NYguy posts>the edges by the sidewalls at the left tapers downwards, Doesn't that eliminate the preview of a squared base??
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8096/8394072761_064b597bb4_b.jpg
So if that's the current rendering we'll be devoid of the silvery white facade that used to appear in the cancelled rendition...
Will have to be alright with this blue facade, though...
marshall
Jan 23, 2013, 2:55 AM
Any word on whether the sphere will be re-located to the Memorial Plaza or beside 1WTC? I remember some speculation about this being done awhile back, but never heard a final word on it. Would love to see them bring the sphere back, and maybe even restore it to its original form and put it near the base of the tower. That being said, I'm sure in the future there will be new sculptures that will spring up all over the Plaza to compliment the buildings and the space.
Roadcruiser1
Jan 23, 2013, 3:02 AM
Any word on whether the sphere will be re-located to the Memorial Plaza or beside 1WTC? I remember some speculation about this being done awhile back, but never heard a final word on it. Would love to see them bring the sphere back, and maybe even restore it to its original form and put it near the base of the tower. That being said, I'm sure in the future there will be new sculptures that will spring up all over the Plaza to compliment the buildings and the space.
It's still going to Liberty Park across the street from the WTC Memorial.
patrick989
Jan 23, 2013, 3:29 AM
So if that's the current rendering we'll be devoid of the silvery white facade that used to appear in the cancelled rendition...
Will have to be alright with this blue facade, though...
What blue facade? The glass reflects whatever color the sky is at the time, the glass itself isn't blue.
deepen915
Jan 23, 2013, 4:10 AM
The joint and the Chinese food box were removed, but the current renders look not so bad.
:laugh: hahahaha
NewYorkDominates
Jan 23, 2013, 4:18 AM
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It gets quite inspiring at around 11:25...
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NYC2ATX
Jan 23, 2013, 6:39 AM
I don't know about everyone else but when I look at this compared to the original "joint" and "chinese food box" this looks taller...
This may be the best comment I've seen on this thread in quite some time :P
sterlippo1
Jan 23, 2013, 11:09 AM
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I do not like the Winnebago with the flat tire in the middle. It looked horrible in the renders and it looks horrible now. Seriously, what were they thinking? it's design and slope just dont fit in :yuck:
NYCrules
Jan 23, 2013, 11:32 AM
What blue facade? The glass reflects whatever color the sky is at the time, the glass itself isn't blue.
Oh yeah!!!
i must be crazy to think so, haha...
NYguy
Jan 23, 2013, 1:45 PM
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NYdude
Jan 23, 2013, 7:35 PM
I have been viewing this thread for quite some time now. I try my best to head into NYC as often as I can, so I will post new images when I have them. All these photos are amazing :tup:
AlphaCentauri
Jan 23, 2013, 8:34 PM
I have been viewing this thread for quite some time now. I try my best to head into NYC as often as I can, so I will post new images when I have them. All these photos are amazing :tup:
Welcome to the forum! :cool:
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NYdude
Jan 23, 2013, 8:42 PM
Welcome to the forum! :cool:
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Thank you!
NewYorkDominates
Jan 23, 2013, 9:20 PM
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forj
Jan 23, 2013, 9:26 PM
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Design-mind
Jan 23, 2013, 10:25 PM
That is one massive piece. I imagine that the mast alone must weight several tons.
NYguy
Jan 23, 2013, 10:27 PM
http://www.rew-online.com/2013/01/23/fresh-push-to-sell-1wtc-to-global-tenants/
Fresh push to sell 1WTC to global tenants
By REW Staff
January 23, 2013
The Durst Organization and Cushman & Wakefield have published a new 48-page brochure to underscore to perspective tenants that One World Trade Center is “the world’s signature address for business.”
In addition, Cushman & Wakefield will further its global marketing campaign of One World Trade Center’s office space with a feature video that will début in 60 countries. This video will be shown in Cushman & Wakefield’s 253 office reception areas around the world.
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Jan 23, 2013, 10:31 PM
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Otie
Jan 23, 2013, 10:32 PM
That is one massive piece. I imagine that the mast alone must weight several tons.
+400 ton
-Filipe-
Jan 23, 2013, 10:42 PM
great pictures, when this is fully cladded its going to be a masterpiece...love it!!
QUEENSNYMAN
Jan 23, 2013, 11:55 PM
great pictures, when this is fully cladded its going to be a masterpiece...love it!!
Agreed:tup:
NYdude
Jan 24, 2013, 12:24 AM
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Amazing shots! I simply cannot wait until this building is completed! :yes:
noms78
Jan 24, 2013, 12:38 AM
+400 ton
Are you sure about this? I thought the biggest spire pieces weighed around 60-70 tonnes.
Only the world's most powerful cranes can lift several hundred tonnes.
Altinova
Jan 24, 2013, 1:26 AM
I took this one a few days ago on Monday from 33 floors up. Can't wait to see it completed!
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8073/8410142138_942b681d26_c.jpg
photoLith
Jan 24, 2013, 1:32 AM
I cant wait to actually see this bitch. Im moving to Pittsburgh in a couple weeks and will finally get to visit NYC again after 10 years of not seeing it. I hope to become a regular visitor soon.
Otie
Jan 24, 2013, 1:37 AM
Are you sure about this? I thought the biggest spire pieces weighed around 60-70 tonnes.
Only the world's most powerful cranes can lift several hundred tonnes.
Will say it again, mast structure weights more than 400 tons. :)
alan88
Jan 24, 2013, 1:42 AM
Are you sure about this? I thought the biggest spire pieces weighed around 60-70 tonnes.
Only the world's most powerful cranes can lift several hundred tonnes.
The total mast/spire, overall weight, of all the sections is well over 400 tons
alan
YankeesfaninUT
Jan 24, 2013, 2:17 AM
Personally, I miss the "Chinese food box" base! The re-done "spire" is not too exciting as many have expressed their opinion on here like me. I am wondering though if the the round "telecommunication ring" is now going to be just plain also? :shrug: I at least thought the previous original drawings of the t.-ring added a crown effect which looked good. :rolleyes:
Like all, we will have to wait to see the final results and then we can judge.
The communications ring will be bare until broadcasters lease space there to have their communication dishes installed. I dont belive it will ever look like the rendering though. Communication dishes come in all shapes and sizes.
jd3189
Jan 24, 2013, 2:25 AM
I took this one a few days ago on Monday from 33 floors up. Can't wait to see it completed!
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8073/8410142138_942b681d26_c.jpg
Pretty cool perspective.
NewYorkDominates
Jan 24, 2013, 4:40 AM
A bit old but still amazing!
NYonAir
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Chapelo
Jan 24, 2013, 6:07 AM
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1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28030045@N06/8410713990/) by drken10003 (http://www.flickr.com/people/28030045@N06/), on Flickr
RobEss
Jan 24, 2013, 6:28 PM
Talk about a commanding presence!
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5200/8412114504_61620b5455_b.jpg
Commanding prescence indeed! Thanks to all the new photographers on SSP as of late, you guys are doing a bang up job!
NewYorkDominates
Jan 24, 2013, 8:50 PM
^ Yes,indeed.
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NYguy
Jan 24, 2013, 10:01 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/APcb78a9ea712946cb845747bdacda5108.html
WTC workers scrawl graffiti of defiance, hope
January 24, 2013
On most construction projects, workers are discouraged from signing or otherwise scrawling on the iron and concrete. At the skyscraper rising at ground zero, though, they're being invited to leave messages for the ages.
"Freedom Forever. WTC 9/11" is scrawled on a beam near the top of the gleaming, 104-story One World Trade Center. "Change is from within" is on a beam on the roof. Another reads: "God Bless the workers & inhabitants of this bldg." One of the last pieces of steel hoisted up last year sits near a precarious edge. The message on it reads: "We remember. We rebuild. We come back stronger!" It is signed by a visitor to the site last year — President Barack Obama.
The words on beams, walls and stairwells of the skyscraper that replaces the twin towers lost on Sept. 11, 2001, form the graffiti of defiance and rebirth, what ironworker supervisor Kevin Murphy calls "things from the heart." They're remembrances of the 2,700 people who died, and testaments to the hope that rose from a shattered morning. "This is not just any construction site, this is a special place for these guys," says Murphy of the 1,000 men and some women who work in the building at any given time, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. "Everyone here wants to be here, they want to put this building up," Murphy says. "They're part of the redemption."
On a frigid, windy winter day, with the 9/11 memorial fountain straight below and the Statue of Liberty in the distance, Murphy supervised a crew of men guiding the first piece of the steel spire that will top out the building at a dizzying 1,776 feet — the tallest in the Western Hemisphere. In the rooftop iron scaffolding for the spire, 105 floors up, a beam pays homage to Lillian Frederick, a 46-year-old administrative assistant who died on the 105th floor of the south tower, pierced by a terrorist-hijacked airliner.
A popular Spanish phrase is penned next to two names on one concrete pillar: "Te Amo Tres Metros Sobre el Cielo," meaning, "I love you three steps above heaven."
Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff wrote: "With you in spirit — those who perished, those who fought, those who build."
Time and daily routines have softened the communal grief as the workers carry on, trading jokes and gruff male banter. Some ends up in whimsical graffiti marking World Cup soccer matches, New York Giants Super Bowl victories and other less-weighty matters that have gone on since construction began six years ago. One crudely drawn map of the neighborhood down below shows the location of a popular strip club.
People on the ground below will never see the spontaneous private thoughts high in the Manhattan sky. The graffiti will disappear as the raw basic structure is covered with drywall, ceiling panels and paint for tenants moving into the 3 million square feet of office space by 2014. Knowing this, workers and visitors often take photographs of special bits of graffiti, so the words will live on.
http://media.sourcenewspapers.com/2013/01/24/photos-world-trade-center-graffiti/#1
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http://mediacenter.smugmug.com/photos/i-b5w7DVT/0/L/i-b5w7DVT-L.jpg
http://mediacenter.smugmug.com/photos/i-4Z4NCpr/0/L/i-4Z4NCpr-L.jpg
PMadFlyer
Jan 24, 2013, 10:05 PM
Looks like new scaffolding is going in at the SE corner on the KPI cam in preparation of base panel setting.
NewYorkDominates
Jan 24, 2013, 10:21 PM
Amraj Lalli
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/amrajlalli/8409184219/sizes/h/in/photostream/
bigreach
Jan 25, 2013, 2:41 AM
This has bothered me for a while, what is the "Dog House", 2nd to the user who said The Strongest cranes can only lift 100-200 thousand tons ,, thats why they are broken down into 17 pieces,, I think the heaviest piece was 67 tons, and I believe thats already on the roof, I believe. Also what the heck is that white old" what looks like an old bounce house" betweeen the 2 tribute pools? post 29217,,pg1457
PMadFlyer
Jan 25, 2013, 3:59 AM
New section from new factory picture from the Port Authority
The new section is in the draft phase, this is only the basic outer shell
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8214/8413374728_3411303094_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8413374728/)
Rough Draft 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8413374728/) by PMadFlyer (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmadflyer/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8216/8413374840_b528f3b278_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8413374840/)
Rough Draft 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8413374840/) by PMadFlyer (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmadflyer/), on Flickr
TheCap'n
Jan 25, 2013, 4:58 AM
http://photos.leesoft.com/photos.cgi?album=2012/wtcspire
http://www.edgeoftheburger.com/fileupload/uploads/images/DSCF3562.jpg
This platform at the top of this section is temporary, right?
THE BIG APPLE
Jan 25, 2013, 5:19 AM
^ No that's one of the many rings part of the antenna design.
TheCap'n
Jan 25, 2013, 5:36 AM
^ No that's one of the many rings part of the antenna design.
I thought the rings (platforms) weren't supposed to start until Level 15?? I don't recall any platforms below the guy-wires? Is there a file that shows this that someone can share?
THE BIG APPLE
Jan 25, 2013, 5:41 AM
They're in the diagram above and in the antenna renders.
TheCap'n
Jan 25, 2013, 5:47 AM
They're in the diagram above and in the antenna renders.
I'm kinda new here...where do i find the diagram and renderings you mentioned? Thx
THE BIG APPLE
Jan 25, 2013, 5:59 AM
The diagram is on this page, and the render is on the two prior pages.
TheCap'n
Jan 25, 2013, 6:05 AM
Yeah, the rendering doesn't show a ring or platform at the top of the tapered section, which is below Level 15 and the guy-wires. By diagram, I don't know whose post you're referring to
THE BIG APPLE
Jan 25, 2013, 6:09 AM
Here's the rendering. Look closely at the antenna.
http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/2012/08/1WTC_DayViewfromWHotel_Large.jpg
If you're talking about sections below the guy wires, then they shouldn't have rings judging by the render.
TheCap'n
Jan 25, 2013, 6:13 AM
Exactly. see the tapered section above the comm rings and below where the guy-wires attach?? It tapers up, then there's a straight section, but no ring between them. the rings don't start until above there (Level 15) That's why I'm confused by the photo with a ring/platform at the top of the tapered section
TheCap'n
Jan 25, 2013, 6:14 AM
I'm thinking it's temporary
Sioux City
Jan 25, 2013, 7:27 AM
Hello from Iowa, everyone. I'm a 50-yr-old guy who has been lurking here for quite a few months, as part of my near obsession with the World Trade Center, both new & old. I thought I would register in case I have something useful to add.
I really appreciate the quality photos and informed comments by many of you regulars. I'm looking forward to seeing some interior shots! I have found the pages for 2,3,4, memorial plaza & museum and the trasportation center, and have followed comments to the Skyscraper city page as well. Thanks for having me, and I'm always interested in other quality links.
Hoping to visit this great city in the next year or two. :cheers:
NYguy
Jan 25, 2013, 2:08 PM
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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/145296636/original.jpg
Joseph Cerulli (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30699400@N07/8402027843/sizes/o/in/photostream/)
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PZelda
Jan 25, 2013, 2:12 PM
Commanding prescence indeed! Thanks to all the new photographers on SSP as of late, you guys are doing a bang up job!
I agree! In that picture, 1 WTC seems to be saying "LOOK AT ME! I am THE king of New York now!" :D
pnapp1
Jan 25, 2013, 4:26 PM
It looks like they have either brought up another section of the mast or they have removed the first section and it is back up on the staging area.
EDIT: I think it's a new section as I only count 9 sections now at the base of the tower.
http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-01-25.jpg
Earthcam: http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/?cam=milleniumhilton1
Otie
Jan 25, 2013, 7:52 PM
^ No that's one of the many rings part of the antenna design.
No, those are temporary platforms that will allow crews bolt and weld the sections. A temporary staircase will be erected over the temporary platform to allow access.
TheCap'n
Jan 25, 2013, 7:59 PM
No, those are temporary platforms that will allow crews bolt and weld the sections. A temporary staircase will be erected over the temporary platform to allow access.
Thanks for the confirmation Otie!
CarlosV
Jan 25, 2013, 9:55 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8086/8415365892_80c4787523_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/8415365892/)
DSC_0026 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/8415365892/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr
NYGrail
Jan 25, 2013, 10:06 PM
I still do not like how the tower tapers toward the top--I think it really loses the dominance that the original twins had (with the same size going straight up). I know most people on the board love this design (but hate the new "spire"), but I really wish the new WTC had more "bigness" to it. I see it up close and I still don't have that "awe" that the originals gave me. Just my opinion.
CarlosV
Jan 25, 2013, 10:08 PM
well to be fair there were TWO towers ..this is just as high and only one....
marshall
Jan 26, 2013, 2:13 AM
This tower will look plenty dominant once the glass cladding on top is finished, it will make it much more streamlined and make it look every bit as tall as it is! Also the antenna once installed will really make it look tall visually. But in my book it already is a behemouth! ;)
uaarkson
Jan 26, 2013, 2:20 AM
All talk of dominance will disappear when 2 & 3 are topped out.
Bertrice
Jan 26, 2013, 2:55 AM
this building reflects light . the twins were big steel boxes.
the cool thing about this tower is that it changes color based on the sun or lack there of.
PMadFlyer
Jan 26, 2013, 3:31 AM
this building reflects light . the twins were big steel boxes.
the cool thing about this tower is that it changes color based on the sun or lack there of.
the columns were clad in panels that were very thin aluminum, but due to the 12' length and width, they weighted about 100 pounds. Sadly, some people theorize that on 9/11 many lives were lost when a fluttering piece of metal was actually a fast moving missile. The accents at the lobby and mechanical floors were made of polished stainless steel.
On a happier note, I've been fighting an unstable internet connection to bring you the most recent update to the spire model. The internal platforms and ladder of the two new sections are not yet modeled, but the model is available through the 3DWarehouse in the updated form.
I made a few with a cut away.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8368/8416008218_4fb8247e32_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8416008218/)
New section 3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8416008218/) by PMadFlyer (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmadflyer/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8331/8416008554_9b3409354d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8416008554/)
new section 4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8416008554/) by PMadFlyer (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmadflyer/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8414915953_42c4f9ea4d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8414915953/)
new section 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8414915953/) by PMadFlyer (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmadflyer/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8359/8414916431_57f0de0d97_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8414916431/)
new section 6 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8414916431/) by PMadFlyer (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmadflyer/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8220/8416011922_9029cb1d78_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8416011922/)
new section 7 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmadflyer/8416011922/) by PMadFlyer (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmadflyer/), on Flickr
NYguy
Jan 26, 2013, 1:12 PM
I see it up close and I still don't have that "awe" that the originals gave me. Just my opinion.
Let's not get into a discussion about the Twins here.
Amraj Lalli (http://www.flickr.com/photos/amrajlalli/8414942504/sizes/l/in/photostream/)
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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8196/8414942504_7e5dbf5d41_h.jpg
QUEENSNYMAN
Jan 26, 2013, 3:32 PM
Love the above pictures!
NYdude
Jan 26, 2013, 3:35 PM
Does anyone know if the glass will be to the roof when the antenna/spire is completed, or is it too early to tell?
NYC GUY
Jan 26, 2013, 4:32 PM
Im going to say another month and a half til all the vented glass is done but this vented glass looks like it's installed differently i think they slide it into place.
Otie
Jan 26, 2013, 4:36 PM
Ok NY folks,
Glass is being hoisted up to the 102nd floor and slided onto position at the plenums, I don't have an exact or estimated date, but I guess during 2Q.
Islander
Jan 26, 2013, 5:36 PM
Good stuff PMad :tup:
2-TOWERS
Jan 26, 2013, 5:39 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8196/8414942504_7e5dbf5d41_h.jpg[/QUOTE]
1 WTC LOOKS Twice a s tall as 4 great SHOT !!!!!!!:tup:
Otie
Jan 26, 2013, 5:47 PM
Does anyone know if the glass will be to the roof when the antenna/spire is completed, or is it too early to tell?
I've been told curtain wall will reach completion by the end of May and mast by end of March.
NYdude
Jan 26, 2013, 7:46 PM
Thank you all who answered my question :)
bigreach
Jan 26, 2013, 8:08 PM
Ok NY folks,
Glass is being hoisted up to the 102nd floor and slided onto position at the plenums, I don't have an exact or estimated date, but I guess during 2Q.
What is 2Q?
CarlosV
Jan 26, 2013, 8:33 PM
^^^
second quarter of a calendar year (April, May, June)
Chapelo
Jan 26, 2013, 10:57 PM
Alejandro Ortiz III (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shbnggrth/8417091651/sizes/l/in/photostream/)
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Alejandro Ortiz III (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shbnggrth/8417946786/sizes/h/in/photostream/)
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