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[uaarkson]

Got permission to post this one.

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© Port Authority

So Otie, what are we seeing here? Is this the part of the enclosure behind the glass fins?

[Otie]

That's the whole thing! The module includes the perforated plate, the stainless steel slats and the 3 layered fin.

[uaarkson]

Nvm. I see on the render now.

[AlphaCentauri]

That's the whole thing! The module includes the perforated plate, the stainless steel slats and the 3 layered fin.

I was wondering how they were going to do it.
Putting up the base cladding will certainly go much faster this way. :cheers:

[Otie]

Yes, but due to the external hoist elevators, enclosure work will be complete until December

[TheCap'n]

I was trying to point out that "dimmer" is probably a vast understatement. This thing likely will be virtually invisible from afar without the radome.

It will not be invisible at night. The entire thing is going to be pretty evenly lit. You'll have to trust me on this one. Wait and see ;)



I thought the beacon had been scrapped...

I can also assure you that the beacon has definitely NOT been scrapped. It's supposed to shine out in all directions (two horizontal beams that constantly rotate) across the horizon and visible for 7 miles on a clear night, or so I've been told.

[kpdrummer82]

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Some nice progress on the ventilated windows on the south-west side.

[PMadFlyer]

I can also assure you that the beacon has definitely NOT been scrapped. It's supposed to shine out in all directions (two horizontal beams that constantly rotate) across the horizon and visible for 7 miles on a clear night, or so I've been told.

The rotating beacon will shine ONLY seven miles? The rotating beacon at an international or large regional airport in the United States must be visible within 100 miles at night in clear weather according to FAA regulations. I think that this will be limited by the curvature of the earths surface, not the brightness of it. The new (~10 year) white LED obstruction strobes on large comm towers are made of maybe 100 LEDs this might be closer to a thousand directionalized diodes in two beams. I think the part in the print online that appears to be the actual beacon is about ten feet tall. We'll have to wait, but I have no doubts that it will be worth it.

[Puzzlecraft]

Otie, thanks for the higher rez picture. Wikipedia says the modules will include LED lighting, actually "lights behind the panels will illuminate the base at night". Can you confirm that? thx.

[TheCap'n]

The rotating beacon will shine ONLY seven miles? The rotating beacon at an international or large regional airport in the United States must be visible within 100 miles at night in clear weather according to FAA regulations. I think that this will be limited by the curvature of the earths surface, not the brightness of it. The new (~10 year) white LED obstruction strobes on large comm towers are made of maybe 100 LEDs this might be closer to a thousand directionalized diodes in two beams. I think the part in the print online that appears to be the actual beacon is about ten feet tall. We'll have to wait, but I have no doubts that it will be worth it.

I'll double-check that PMad, and get back to you. Thought that's what I remembered, but I've been wrong before

[Otie]

Otie, thanks for the higher rez picture. Wikipedia says the modules will include LED lighting, actually "lights behind the panels will illuminate the base at night". Can you confirm that? thx.

Yes, though I'm not sure who is the contractor, probably Five Star.

[Tadd]

The rotating beacon will shine ONLY seven miles? The rotating beacon at an international or large regional airport in the United States must be visible within 100 miles at night in clear weather according to FAA regulations. .

They could also be talking about how far the beam will be visible reflecting off the moisture in the air (i.e. seen as a beam-of-light) vs how far away you can be and see the light on the top of the tower winking at you, (i.e. easily visible from High Point NJ near the Delaware River or aircraft flying 100 miles away - and other high spots around the area). NYC is cursed and blessed by not being surrounded by high mountains. WTC1 IS the high mountain.

[pnapp1]

From what I have read from the Port Authority (can't remember where I read it) the beacon will be visible up to 50 miles away.

[NYguy]

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[Puzzlecraft]

Found on the Ballentyne-Strong website:

The WTC beacon will produce more than 288,000 lumens of LED light output that will project two horizontal beams of light into the New York City skyline to memorialize the tallest building in North America, which will be 1,776 feet tall upon completion. Additionally, Strong is also providing the architectural accent lighting for the 547 foot antenna on the WTC using three different types of custom-made Solutions 650 RGBW LED fixtures. These custom fixtures, when not being used for everyday use in white light, will allow the WTC to color the highest part of its antenna to commemorate holiday occasions and special events.

http://www.strong-world.com/About/News/12-11-09/Ballantyne_Strong_Awarded_Prestigious_Contract_to_Provide_New_York’s_1_776_Foot_World_Trade_Center_WTC_with_the_Company’s_Proprietary_‘Solutions’_High-Powered_LED_Beacon_Lighting.aspx

[MadGnome]

Found on the Ballentyne-Strong website:

The WTC beacon will produce more than 288,000 lumens of LED light output that will project two horizontal beams of light into the New York City skyline to memorialize the tallest building in North America, which will be 1,776 feet tall upon completion. Additionally, Strong is also providing the architectural accent lighting for the 547 foot antenna on the WTC using three different types of custom-made Solutions 650 RGBW LED fixtures. These custom fixtures, when not being used for everyday use in white light, will allow the WTC to color the highest part of its antenna to commemorate holiday occasions and special events.

http://www.strong-world.com/About/News/12-11-09/Ballantyne_Strong_Awarded_Prestigious_Contract_to_Provide_New_York’s_1_776_Foot_World_Trade_Center_WTC_with_the_Company’s_Proprietary_‘Solutions’_High-Powered_LED_Beacon_Lighting.aspx
Not sure how credible the numbers are when they claim there's a 547 foot antenna going up.

[miesian]

Got permission to post this one.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1623/pa02042013y.jpg
© Port Authority

Otie, thanks! I've been very curious about the base-----I think this will look good...:)

[hunser]

From WTC Facebook Progress:

Spire sections 301-303 weighing a jaw-dropping 178.5 tons are now in place atop One WTC.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16871&d=1360010240

[alex4apple]

Its great the cladding for the base is starting but wasn't the cladding supposed to start in late spring?

[TechTalkGuy]

From WTC Facebook Progress:

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16871&d=1360010240

Now I can finally understand the purpose of that temporary structure surrounding the antenna spire.

That's how the construction workers properly align the sections together to secure them in place! :tup:

I wonder just how high that structure will grow.
I'm sure the winds affect the construction itself.

[architect1]

Almost there Ive been waiting for the the compleation of the exterior.

[forj]

Now I can finally understand the purpose of that temporary structure surrounding the antenna spire.

That's how the construction workers properly align the sections together to secure them in place! :tup:

I wonder just how high that structure will grow.
I'm sure the winds affect the construction itself.

i cant imagine that structure could rise all the way to the height of the completed spire.. and i dont think it will rise any further than this. i think they have temporary platforms built onto some of the section where workers would be able to do the work of securing bolts and alignment etc

[PMadFlyer]

i cant imagine that structure could rise all the way to the height of the completed spire.. and i dont think it will rise any further than this. i think they have temporary platforms built onto some of the section where workers would be able to do the work of securing bolts and alignment etc

This is as tall as the temporary platform will get. However, the white crane will be fitted with a climber cage or all together replaced with a crane equipped with one. I think the logical time to do it will be after the pieces on site are all installed. While I'm logged on. I'll check the facts for High intensity rotating beacons via the FAA website.
AC 150/5345-12 (http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/draft_150_5340_30f.pdf)
L-802A Beacon (http://www.adb-airfield.com/support/obsolete/96A0198.pdf)
On page 5 of the last link it says "The L-802A rotating beacon is
designed to enable pilots to locate the airport from a range up to 80 miles
(49.68 km) and is manufactured to specification AC 150/5345-12C." I looked up the cost of the LED fixtures mentioned. among all the results, the price is about $1200-$1900. But only the best for us.

[marshall]

The corners on the base that they are squaring off, are they using anything to fill those spaces in? Concrete, steel? Or are they just going to clad over the squared corners and leave the inside open between the cladding and the existing concrete base of the tower?

[AlphaCentauri]

The corners on the base that they are squaring off, are they using anything to fill those spaces in? Concrete, steel? Or are they just going to clad over the squared corners and leave the inside open between the cladding and the existing concrete base of the tower?

The space will remain hollow.

It looks a bit cloudy from the webcams...

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[NYguy]

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[mheadroom]

That's the whole thing! The module includes the perforated plate, the stainless steel slats and the 3 layered fin.

And the LEDs?

[NYguy]

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[pnapp1]

I think the fourth section of the mast was installed this morning. Calling Carlos for a pic! :tup:

[NewYorkDominates]

^ It also looks like their also heading for piece #5 fom the looks of it.

Yes,Carlos? Where are you when we need you? :)

[hunser]

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One World Trade Center (aka Freedom Tower) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/8435981111/) von pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/people/pmarella/) auf Flickr

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Manhattan Skyline (NYC) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cedm80be/8447620458/) von Cédric Mayence Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/cedm80be/) auf Flickr

Bit old but very Gotham...

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[StrongIsland]

Next piece (#5) going up per webcams!!

[MrSlippery519]

Wow this is great, suddenly everything is moving quick. Glass, spire and base cladding all well underway.

It's amazing how much more dominating the tower looks as the glass rises.

[AlphaCentauri]

From pics on SSC it looks like one of the transition sections for the spire is going up.

[laser110]

Which webcam are you guys viewing? I checked the EarthCam link I have and it says image not available to the public? Is there something I need to do to view this?


Scott

[NewYorkDominates]

The sixth piece can be seen from this photo.

Michael C. Dunne
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelcdunne/

[pnapp1]

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2013-02-06_p1.jpg
Image via KPI TV CAM: http://www.video-monitoring.com/construction/kpitv/silver.htm

[Kevin Scott Koepke]

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[CarlosV]

The tower has been obscured by heavy fog/snow for the last couple of days.....you can see what looks like a fat lighthouse of the spire waiting to be placed on her place :)

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1 WTC 02062013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/8450823431/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

[-Filipe-]

when that last piece is installed looks like it will be taller then the temporary structure :D

[CCs77]

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[NYGrail]

Would anyone be able to superimpose on a current 1WTC photo what the spire will look like/how high it will go? I know some of you have done similar things in the past with photos, so I am really curious on how it would look on the current state of the tower. Hope someone can help :)

[NYguy]

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[IntoTheLens827]

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[NYguy]

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Fantastic pictures I cant believe the great progress thank you for these great pictures:tup:

[QUEENSNYMAN]

The tower has been obscured by heavy fog/snow for the last couple of days.....you can see what looks like a fat lighthouse of the spire waiting to be placed on her place :)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8098/8450823431_e45a3ee7b8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/8450823431/)
1 WTC 02062013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/8450823431/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

Thank You Carlos as always friend:cheers:

[NYC GUY]

Looks like they're starting to take the netting off the northwest side.

[kpdrummer82]

Is it just me or does this new expansion of glass really make the tower look wider towards the base, it really gives a whole new perspective on the tapering effect.
Also the KPITV cam is in better condition now, still slightly moisturized but not nearly as bad.

[bigreach]

So Carlos maybe you can help me out, are there 4 pieces of the spire, and 5 is waiting, or are the 5 now connected?

[NewYorkDominates]

^ Only four have been placed,but they somehow skipped #5 and decided to raise #6.

[khaizer007]

I might be wrong but judging from the pics, seems like only 3 have been tied up so far.

[CityGuy87]

When should we expect the communication ring to start taking shape?

[NYguy]

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[NewYorque]

Just a question:

the two "big floors" just above the technical floors are the observation decks, right ?

[Otie]

Yup. The lower floor includes a mezzanine, so there are 3 floors!

[StrongIsland]

Piece #5 went up a little while ago with #6 still on deck:tup:

[TechTalkGuy]

When should we expect the communication ring to start taking shape?

Good question.

Logic dictates that the communication ring to be added after all of the surrounding temporary platforms are dismantled.

Since the construction of the antenna spire requires the temporary platforms, I predict that we shall see that after the antenna spire is complete. :tup:

[pnapp1]

Piece 5 going up now. Carlos, keep an eye out. :tup:

I'm assuming it is going right in since 6 is already on the platform.

http://uppix.net/4/4/7/197d12874d1256bd8ca4ed198e6fdtt.jpg
Posted by Beber @ SSC

[NewYorkDominates]

Number six is about to be placed now.

[TouchTheSky13]

I sure hope they're gonna clean and polish that steel because it just looks awful. Reminds me of the giant banal commnications towers you'd see in the old Soviet Union. Does any one know if they have plans to maintain the mast so that it looks "shiny"?

[hunser]

I sure hope they're gonna clean and polish that steel because it just looks awful. Reminds me of the giant banal commnications towers you'd see in the old Soviet Union. Does any one know if they have plans to maintain the mast so that it looks "shiny"?

The more pieces go up, the more my eyes hurt. This antenna will be a constant reminder of how money was more important than beauty / symbolism.

Btw, a fun fact:
Total views 1WTC (SSP, SSC, WNY):
SSP: 7,431,265
SSC: 8,647,288
WNY: 3,752,904
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Total: 19,831,457

Soon, it will be 20 Mill.

[NewYorkDominates]

KenfromJersey
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=419362&page=2062

Derek2k3
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[rack776]

I sure hope they're gonna clean and polish that steel because it just looks awful. Reminds me of the giant banal commnications towers you'd see in the old Soviet Union. Does any one know if they have plans to maintain the mast so that it looks "shiny"?


I asked that question awhile ago, everyone here thought it would be painted white, you would think if it was going to be painted they would do it on the down on the ground.
Galvanizind steel is very hard to prep & paint properly, I cant imagine they would have guys with saftey harnesses painting this every year.

I have a feeling it will be rusty like the rendering, galvanized steel will not stay silver grey for long especially arround salty air and pollution. Look at a large over the road traffic sign truss to get an idea of how I think the finish will weather if left in its present state.

On the previous page you can already see rust starting on the sections.
If only they could come up with some sort of weather proof cover for it.....:P:runaway:

I'm super happy the tower is showing signs of being finished soon. Feels good to see whatever they do with the top to finally get done.
The fat section narrows down alot lower than I imagined, that aint no Spire. I'm happy its soon done but its not a spire.

[ATLksuGUY]

KenfromJersey

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=419362&page=2062

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8374/8452877545_d55eba5f92_b.jpg

I truly think this will surprise us. I think it will look better than some are expecting and will be quite dominant in fact. Nice pics btw!

:notacrook:

[TechTalkGuy]

:previous: I am wondering how the sections will be assembled without an extension of the temporary platforms. :shrug:

[justmehere]

:previous: I am wondering how the sections will be assembled without an extension of the temporary platforms. :shrug:

they will be using those crane tower to go up:)

[NewYorker2009]

With these new sections the Tower is 1,466' 0".

[TechTalkGuy]

As excited as I am for the final product of ONE WTC, I must say that no architect has engineered the grace and appeal of the spire atop of the Empire State Building.

[YankeesfaninUT]

I asked that question awhile ago, everyone here thought it would be painted white, you would think if it was going to be painted they would do it on the down on the ground.
Galvanizind steel is very hard to prep & paint properly, I cant imagine they would have guys with saftey harnesses painting this every year.

I have a feeling it will be rusty like the rendering, galvanized steel will not stay silver grey for long especially arround salty air and pollution. Look at a large over the road traffic sign truss to get an idea of how I think the finish will weather if left in its present state.

On the previous page you can already see rust starting on the sections.
If only they could come up with some sort of weather proof cover for it.....:P:runaway:

I'm super happy the tower is showing signs of being finished soon. Feels good to see whatever they do with the top to finally get done.
The fat section narrows down alot lower than I imagined, that aint no Spire. I'm happy its soon done but its not a spire.

The reason they probably dont paint it on the ground is they dont want to ding it up and chip the paint as they install it. But I do believe they will paint it. They wouldn't put it up there just to let it rust. I'm sure they checked into that before making the decision to scrap the radome. I personally would like to see a silver paint used. A silver paint would give it a sleek metallic look that would complement the base cladding. It would also make the L.E.D.'s stand out more at night. :tup:

[uaarkson]

There is a super-blizzard on the way for the Northeast and northern Mid-Atlantic. Current forecasts are predicting 8" of snow at Central Park. Don't expect any more progress here until next week at least.

[Otie]

:previous: I am wondering how the sections will be assembled without an extension of the temporary platforms. :shrug:

Next is to lift temporary stairs modules atop the platform.

[gramsjdg]

With these new sections the Tower is 1,466' 0".

To put it in a different perspective, that is the same height as the space deck observatory on the CN Tower...:cool:

[NewYorkDominates]

Piece #7a is being raised of as of right now.

[StrongIsland]

Piece #7a is being raised of as of right now.

I think it's in because the cranes going for something else now!:tup:

[NYGrail]

I wanted some perspective on where they are at so I cropped KenfromJersey's photo with the finished designs artwork. Is this correct where they are right now?
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[Ed007Toronto]

And up it goes.

[QUEENSNYMAN]

I wanted some perspective on where they are at so I cropped KenfromJersey's photo with the finished designs artwork. Is this correct where they are right now?
http://i45.tinypic.com/2l5buh.jpg

Great to see the Antenna/Spire moving along:tup:

[QUEENSNYMAN]

Got to get some video maybe this weekend now that the Antenna/Spire is more visible, great picture updates everyone!

[ih8pickingusernames]

If they get bored of painting it white every year they could always do something like this.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8108/8454529340_e7d5725447_z.jpg

[-Filipe-]

wow the antenna looks good it doesnt look skinny really even tho those are the thickest parts im really impressed.. wow just wow

[NYguy]

I truly think this will surprise us. I think it will look better than some are expecting and will be quite dominant in fact.

It looks exactly as planned, but I don't know what people are expecting. But what we are seeing is what we will get - it will be as is.


I wanted some perspective on where they are at so I cropped KenfromJersey's photo with the finished designs artwork. Is this correct where they are right now?
http://i45.tinypic.com/2l5buh.jpg



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[TheCap'n]

The reason they probably dont paint it on the ground is they dont want to ding it up and chip the paint as they install it. But I do believe they will paint it. They wouldn't put it up there just to let it rust. I'm sure they checked into that before making the decision to scrap the radome. I personally would like to see a silver paint used. A silver paint would give it a sleek metallic look that would complement the base cladding. It would also make the L.E.D.'s stand out more at night. :tup:

I agree with the idea that it makes sense that it would be painted after install to avoid any damage to the paint-job during the installation. I also agree that a silver/metallic finish would probably look better & Sleeker in the daytime.

However, a silver finish wouldn't make the lighting at night stand out more than a white finish. White has the highest reflectance value of any color. See the link at the bottom for details, but basically, the White paint finishes shown in the link have Light Reflectance Values (LRV) in the high 80's-low 90's out of a possible 100. The lightest metallic/silver finish on this particular chart is the brushed aluminum, which only has an LRV of 68.2, meaning it only reflects 68.2% of the light that hits it. Painting it silver instead of white might also adversely affect the intended tones of the color LEDs when in RGBW operation, whereas a white finish would give you more accurate color results and look better. :)

Having said all of that, I still haven't heard what color they plan to go with but I do know that the lighting design for the mast erred on the conservative side with respect to the reflectance value. An LRV of 50 was used for the paint finish in the design to account for worst-case scenario, so it should be plenty bright enough when it's finally lit. :D

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[ih8pickingusernames]

^^^Wouldn't it be difficult to paint, and even more expensive to maintain?

[jd3189]

To put it in a different perspective, that is the same height as the space deck observatory on the CN Tower...:cool:

So that means the next piece of the mast that will go up will make 1WTC the tallest structure in all of NYC and the Northeast.:tup:

[ih8pickingusernames]

So that means the next piece of the mast that will go up will make 1WTC the tallest structure in all of NYC and the Northeast.:tup:

nope it doesn't.
CN Tower height is 1815ft approx
ONE WTC height is 1776ft

[Yankee fan for life]

Can see the antenna/mast all the from coney island great progress !

[jd3189]

nope it doesn't.
CN Tower height is 1815ft approx
ONE WTC height is 1776ft

I'm still referring to New York and the eastern US,not North America as a whole.

[NewYorker2009]

So that means the next piece of the mast that will go up will make 1WTC the tallest structure in all of NYC and the Northeast.:tup:

One WTC already is the tallest structure in NYC. ESB is 1,453' 8 9/16" in structural height. :cheers:

[Yankee fan for life]

I'm still referring to New York and the eastern US,not North America as a whole.

I am pretty sure 1 wtc antenna has surpass the Willis tower roof height,not sure.

[ih8pickingusernames]

^ if it is the height of the skypod on the CN tower then it is taller then the Sears tower roof height.

[Yankee fan for life]

^ if it is the height of the skypod on the CN tower then it is taller then the Sears tower roof height.

Hard to believe that the CN Tower will still be 23 feet taller then 1 wtc by pinnacle have to make that 8 hour drive one day and see the CN Tower in person.

[ih8pickingusernames]

^^^If you are going to see it go during the summer months. Trust me winter kinda ruins the views. IMO

[kpdrummer82]

There is a super-blizzard on the way for the Northeast and northern Mid-Atlantic. Current forecasts are predicting 8" of snow at Central Park. Don't expect any more progress here until next week at least.

I live on Long Island and we're supposed to be getting up to 2 feet, the city might get hit a little harder than 8 inches, hopefully not but you never know

[DURKEY427]

It looks exactly as planned, but I don't know what people are expecting. But what we are seeing is what we will get - it will be as is.






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This time last year i saw that view bit of progress since then but that picture shows the weather being exactly the same as last year

[AlphaCentauri]

I also agree that a silver/metallic finish would probably look better & Sleeker in the daytime.

I doubt that it will be painted but...

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It would look much better with a metallic finish. :)

Also does anyone know what is going to happen with the communications ring?
I heard a while back that it will eventually get filled with dishes and antennas like in the older spire renderings but I don't know if this is true.

[THE BIG APPLE]

The whole antenna debacle was a waste of peoples energy, just as complaining about the Tower Verre losing 200 ft was a waste of peoples energy, just as 3WTC losing the exterior cross braces was a waste of peoples energy. In all three cases people either lived with it or liked each alteration more than the original design or purpose. I for one hate Verre losing 200 ft, I hate 3WTC losing exterior cross braces, BUT I kinda like the antenna. It pays homage to a lost one, and doesn't make 1WTC a cheater. Plus most of the broadcasting from the ESB will come to 1WTC and takeover the antenna.

[QUEENSNYMAN]

From Rockaway, by me.

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[NYguy]

The whole antenna debacle was a waste of peoples energy, just as complaining about the Tower Verre losing 200 ft was a waste of peoples energy, just as 3WTC losing the exterior cross braces was a waste of peoples energy.

A waste of energy - and space - is you complaining about what people compain about. If you want to comment on the tower, that's fine. That you think no one else should have an opinion or comment is ridiculous.

I won't continue to point out that people have a right to voice their opinions on the tower, like or dislike. If you don't like the commentary, you don't have to, but that's your problem and no concern of anyone else's.



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