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[Matty]

Looking at those old birdcage designs is scary.

To think they actually thought of building them... *shudder*

[Daquan13]

Well, we don't have to worry about those now.

The coffin can and should be nailed shut on those.:banana: :tup:

[Rise To The Top]

I wonder what will happen first... WFC topping out, or FT reaching ground level.

I wounder what would happen if Daquan13 was banned from this thread for a week. ;)

[NYguy]

This building... wack.

What a waste of a fifth post.

[NYguy]

I just think with all these proposed buildings and the burj dubai, the freedom tower will look tiny and it is not gonna be finished until 2010. Isnt the Chicago Spire suppost to be completed then also?

I dont think the Freedom Tower will look tiny, regardless of whatever is built elsewhere. It's on the Manhattan skyline. In either case, those other towers will be "afterthoughts" in the public consiousness. The FT was given a strict height limit of 1776 ft, including spire. It wasn't really meant to compete with "world's tallest" around the world, although at that height it would have been.

[NYguy]

Wall Street Journal

Rebuilding Ground Zero
By STEVE MALANGA
May 12, 2007; Page A11

A few weeks ago, as Mr. Silverstein and I met at his headquarters on the 38th floor of 7 World Trade Center, the 52-story skyscraper that he quickly rebuilt just north of where the twin towers once stood, we could watch the reconstruction of the rest of the Trade Center site proceed. He pointed out to me the footprints of the three other office towers he is developing there and predicted with some confidence that the site, which will include a fourth skyscraper, the so-called Freedom Tower, as well as a new transportation terminal, will be completed within five years. "I just want to hang around until then to see this through to completion," the 75-year-old developer told me.

.........he built a 1.9 million square foot skyscraper -- the first 7 World Trade Center -- which nearly bankrupted him. Drexel Burnham Lambert planned to lease the entire tower but pulled out just days before signing the deal, when government investigations into the activities of the head of its junk bond department, Michael Milken, emerged as a threat to the firm's future growth. Drexel ultimately collapsed, and Mr. Silverstein was left without a major tenant until Salomon Bros. leased half the building two years later.

Yet despite that brush with failure, erecting 7 World Trade only sharpened his appetite for more. "I remember at the topping out of 7 World Trade looking up at the twin towers and thinking, my building is huge, but it is made diminutive by the twin towers," he says. "So I said to myself, wouldn't it be incredible someday to own those?"

.........."After the attacks, I said to my wife, if you want to go sailing, I'll do that. If you want me to rebuild the Trade Center, I'll do that," says Mr. Silverstein. "And she said to me, you know you won't be satisfied with anything except rebuilding, so let's just get on with it."

Mr. Silverstein began planning for a new 7 World Trade -- which he controlled entirely and which had collapsed on 9/11 along with the towers -- barely a month after the attacks. Although in early 2002 Gov. Pataki and the head of the Lower Manhattan Development Corp. asked him to slow down preparations for rebuilding 7 World Trade to accommodate government planning for the rest of the site, he pressed ahead, putting shovels in the ground by May of that year and opening the tower for business in the spring of 2006.

"I simply did not listen to all the naysayers because I was spending my money, not theirs, and fortunately I had no government involvement in 7 World Trade, which gave me the opportunity to do what I do best," he says.

The agency charged with leading the redevelopment was torn by conflicting visions and tried to shoehorn as much as possible into their plan -- a museum, a memorial to the dead, a home for a major New York cultural institution, residential development and office space. Critics urged cutting back the office space to make room for these varied uses. In the midst of his re-election campaign, Mayor Bloomberg even declared that the market couldn't support new skyscrapers anyway.

Mayor Bloomberg threatened to withhold Liberty Bonds, which Congress had created to help finance reconstruction, while the vice chairman of the Port Authority called Mr. Silverstein "greedy" for not agreeing to the state's demands.

It is fitting that the final plan for Ground Zero owes such a debt to a private developer and the marketplace. The terrorists attacked the twin towers because they embodied the values of our democratic free-market economic system. The memorial that will rise on Ground Zero will make no reference to those values, nor seek to celebrate our way of life. Rather the memorial, in the way of postmodern monuments, will merely ask us to ponder the absence of those who died.

The real monument on the site will be its skyscrapers, and the buzz and hum of activity within them will celebrate the continuing triumph of the system that the terrorists attacked. "After five and a half years of laborious involvement in politics, we finally are at a point where we are building," says Mr. Silverstein triumphantly. "This is what I do."


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117893280555400749.html

Good article. Silverstein is a builder, it's what he does best. If the government had been out of the way, a lot more could have been completed by now. But it all worked out in the end.

[Daquan13]

What a waste of a fifth post.



Good job, CoolCzech!!

Yeah, as of late several members have written posts here talking about everything else other than the Freedom Tower.

I'll be so glad when the steel starts to rise so that this negative talk from them can come to a screeching halt!!

Yeah, all those delays, BS and red tape in getting the land rebuilt should be behind us now.
It's all a done deal.

People might not have liked Silvie in the beginning, myself being one of them, but I think he did real good in the end. The insurers were trying to put up relentless rebelliance and woudn't pay him the funds he was seeking, but in the end, he showed them who's boss and they in turn, had to show him the money!!

[CoolCzech]

I wounder what would happen if Daquan13 was banned from this thread for a week. ;)



I wonder what would happen if you just put Daquan13 on your ignore list:shrug:

[CoolCzech]

What I find amazing about that article is the part that reads,

"Gov. Pataki and the head of the Lower Manhattan Development Corp. asked him to slow down preparations for rebuilding 7 World Trade to accommodate government planning for the rest of the site..."

I mean, not only did the government drag out redevelopment at the site by at least half a decade, it also wanted to get in the way of the only genuine building that had been done to date!

[CoolCzech]

I dont think the Freedom Tower will look tiny, regardless of whatever is built elsewhere. It's on the Manhattan skyline. In either case, those other towers will be "afterthoughts" in the public consiousness. The FT was given a strict height limit of 1776 ft, including spire. It wasn't really meant to compete with "world's tallest" around the world, although at that height it would have been.

1,776 feet would have been the world's tallest, first of all, if it weren't for subsequent building announcements in places like Dubai. Even if the FT was going all the way up to the legal limit of 2,000 feet, the BD would STILL be taller. Besides, I think by now it should be obvious to anyone that Dubai is bound and determined to have the WTB title, no matter what. Aesthetic considerations certainly won't prevent them from putting up a 4,000 footer if they have to. I don't think anyone would want to see something like that going up in downtown Manhattan - not anyone reasonable, anyway.

Desperately trying to reclaim the WTB title is a fool's game; in a way, I'm glad the FAA limit effectively sidelines the USA from participating.

[Daquan13]

What I find amazing about that article is the part that reads,

"Gov. Pataki and the head of the Lower Manhattan Development Corp. asked him to slow down preparations for rebuilding 7 World Trade to accommodate government planning for the rest of the site..."

I mean, not only did the government drag out redevelopment at the site by at least half a decade, it also wanted to get in the way of the only genuine building that had been done to date!



That's proof right there that Pataki and the gov't were purposely creating a slowdown!! A work stoppage. 7 WTC moved right along. They couldn't shake that one, so their next target to poke at was the poor Freedom Tower, putting it through a battery of at least four design changes over the past 4-1/2 years!!

Then came the memorial. They pulled on its hamstrings as well. The new PATH Station also, as seen its share of setbacks and delays. Pataki was nothing but a hinderance, a stumbling block and a clusterf**k!!!

Not to be left out of this snafu is also the Port Authority, which played into the gov't's hands as well.

They wanted things put off as long as possible, but Silverstein's stubborness and determination to rebuild Ground Zero had paid off handsomely.

[Swede]

Looking at those old birdcage designs is scary.
To think they actually thought of building them... *shudder*
Which Is one reason I sooo did not understand picking that plan in the first place. The UA one was by far my favourite. But the towers planned and u/c now... :cheers:

[Realthang]

I've noticed that any significant deliveries are generally made early in the day, probably to minimize the effect on New York traffic...

Today's delivery is the next steel column to be installed!

[NYguy]

1,776 feet would have been the world's tallest, first of all, if it weren't for subsequent building announcements in places like Dubai.

It would have been the world's tallest period. Even now, it would stand as world's tallest. Those buildings keep their titles until they have been surpassed in reality, not announcements. But 1776 it was (and is). By the way, the building was also referred to as the 1776 Building (before Pataki's Freedom Tower). It was Libeskind's idea to mark that height with the tip of the spire, but Childs had other ideas, creating an observation deck on the antenna platform, at 1776 ft. That tower was basically pushed higher than Libeskind's original plan because the broadcasters decided they would move back to the site, and not build a 2000 ft tower in Jersey City or Bayonne.

This was one version...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/34429366/original.jpg

[NYguy]

I've noticed that any significant deliveries are generally made early in the day, probably to minimize the effect on New York traffic...

Today's delivery is the next steel column to be installed!

Good news.....:yes:

[CoolCzech]

Obviously, NASA better get cranking on the Space Elevator to satisfy WTB fans and put Dubai in its place.:haha:

Maybe the terrestrial end should be located in Manhattan?;)

[Daquan13]

It would have been the world's tallest period. Even now, it would stand as world's tallest. Those buildings keep their titles until they have been surpassed in reality, not announcements. But 1776 it was (and is). By the way, the building was also referred to as the 1776 Building (before Pataki's Freedom Tower). It was Libeskind's idea to mark that height with the tip of the spire, but Childs had other ideas, creating an observation deck on the antenna platform, at 1776 ft. That tower was basically pushed higher than Libeskind's original plan because the broadcasters decided they would move back to the site, and not build a 2000 ft tower in Jersey City or Bayonne.

This was one version...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/34429366/original.jpg



Hideous!! I'm so glad THAT disgusting pile of junk wasn't built! Looks like something from one of the old '50s B&W sci-fi movies like When Worlds Collide, or something like that!

You'd think that more than one steel beam or column would be delivered at a time, instead of just one. If steel is still being delivered, then why only one piece at a time?

Not complaining at all, but the way that I've often seen steel being delivered to construction sites is by the truck load, meaning a pile of columns on a long flatbed truck.

[ramvid01]

Hideous!! I'm so glad THAT disgusting pile of junk wasn't built! Looks like something from one of the old '50s B&W sci-fi movies like When Worlds Collide, or something like that!

You'd think that more than one steel beam or column would be delivered at a time, instead of just one. If steel is still being delivered, then why only one piece at a time?

Not complaining at all, but the way that I've often seen steel being delivered to construction sites is by the truck load, meaning a pile of columns on a long flatbed truck.

You gotta remember, these columns are HUGE and unless the beams where smaller/thinner, its gonna be one at a time.

[Daquan13]

It probably would have been better off if Pataki just announced WHEN the base would start being built, instead of telling us lie, after lie, after lie.

And then end up getting the steel for the tower in "bits & pieces"!! Are the columns THAT huge where only one can be delivered at a time? Or will the interior ones in the base be smaller?

I realise that there will be no interior support columns from the ground floor up, so maybe when the tower gets past the base, its steel will rocket into the sky.

[NYguy]

pathresotration.com

http://www.pathrestoration.com/drp/images/WTCSiteOverlay7.jpg


http://www.pathrestoration.com/drp/images/gallery/wtcth/2007/04/fredmtwr01.jpg


http://www.pathrestoration.com/drp/images/gallery/wtcth/2007/04/fredmtwr02.jpg


http://www.pathrestoration.com/drp/images/gallery/wtcth/2007/04/fredmtwr04.jpg


http://www.pathrestoration.com/drp/images/gallery/wtcth/2007/04/fredmtwr03.jpg

[Daquan13]

How will the cranes lift themselves as the tower starts to rise, by hydraulic power?

[DUBAI2015]

Is it just me or did I see the beginnings of the foundation of 4WTC in the top picture?

[Daquan13]

No building construction has started on that side yet.

And it won't until sometime next year when the bathtub is put in.

[NYguy]

Is it just me or did I see the beginnings of the foundation of 4WTC in the top picture?

They're just working on the "tub"...

[SportsWorld]

http://www.pathrestoration.com/drp/images/WTCSiteOverlay7.jpg
wow, that site is massive. how big is it?

[Daquan13]

Sixteen acres.

[TheMeltyMan]

Sixteen acres is a lot but OH LOOK AT DUBAI

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4421/imresolt04oo8.jpg

ERGGGHHHHHHHHH

[tone99loc]

^^ Clearly Dubai is running out of undeveloped land, and they just have no choice but to build up;)

[Daquan13]

If it weren't for the water in the upper part of that pic, the land would be a totally dry dessert!

[vanhenrik]

Added the heights to this model. Impressive by any standards. And this just Downtown Manhattan.
Towers just as large coming for Midtown...:yes:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78608344/original.jpg

the memoriol site is a waist of space ! make a twin towers 700 - 800 m tall ther

[Daquan13]

Get rid of the memorial and there will be no NWTC. The families will see to it.

Right now, everyone seems happy. Any little disruption might cause a delay.

[NYguy]

Sixteen acres is a lot but OH LOOK AT DUBAI

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4421/imresolt04oo8.jpg

ERGGGHHHHHHHHH


Yes, a big desert. They may as well be building on the moon....Boring.....:sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Now, building in the middle of an actual thriving, populated city, that's impressive.:tup:

[Realthang]

The flavour of the day...

The top of the black section of the second crane has been delivered.

[NYguy]

http://www.builditnow.com/images/FE/chain198siteType8/site164/client/photoGallery/188/new_images_1_lrg_big.jpg
builditnow.com


http://www.builditnow.com/images/FE/chain198siteType8/site164/client/photoGallery/188/new_images_2_lrg_big.jpg
builditnow.com

[NYguy]

Tuesday morning, from the cam...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78824348/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78824383/original.jpg

[colemonkee]

Check out Goldman Sachs in the background. That thing's moving.

[Daquan13]

Well, 7 WTC will get its 1st neighboring new office tower, even if it isn't for Ground Zero yet.

[-GR2NY-]

One thing New York will probably never have, is that aqua blue water, less the perfect angle on the clearest of days. I'll take density and the world's most sprawling metropolis over blue water any day, (except on vacations ;)).

Go new york! Can't wait to see this spire illuminating the night sky, sitting above the pallisades lets say.

[Steven2197]

Today they said that their going to put more steal columns today.

Oh yes im new i just joined yestarday.

[nygirl1]

^^ I gotta snag that avatar. It is too funny.

[RockMont]

Tuesday morning, from the cam...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78824348/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78824383/original.jpg




Watch out bin laden!!! See that thing sticking up in the air? We're going to skewer you with that thing, boy! And the rest of al quaeda too!

[Thskyscraper]

Check out Goldman Sachs in the background. That thing's moving.

Yeah, that building is going surprise a lot of people who aren't really familiar with what's going on in Lower Manhattan.

[NYguy]

Yeah, that building is going surprise a lot of people who aren't really familiar with what's going on in Lower Manhattan.

Not only that, but it will be "fatter" than the BofA tower going up on 42nd...

[NYguy]

Teusday, 6:30 pm

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78849270/original.jpg

[NYguy]

Overlooking the memorial...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78850921/medium.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78850921/large.jpg

[NYguy]

Teusday, 7:30 pm

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78851129/original.jpg

[DUBAI2015]

By dwalden at SSC.
http://wtc.com/images/popup/img_downloads/enlarged_img/170000-pu.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/4263/wtcsite2sd2.jpg
As you can see, Google Earth images are over 3 years outdated. (No WTC7)

[NYguy]

As you can see, Google Earth images are over 3 years outdated. (No WTC7)

It's there in spirit...;)

Those building footprints are a little outdated as well though.

[Tom Servo]

http://www.builditnow.com/images/FE/chain198siteType8/site164/client/photoGallery/188/new_images_1_lrg_big.jpg
builditnow.com


http://www.builditnow.com/images/FE/chain198siteType8/site164/client/photoGallery/188/new_images_2_lrg_big.jpg
builditnow.com

Wow... pretty impressive. I really like the Memorial Site, and the Calatrava hub is AMAZING. I'm not really a fan of the Foster tower, but most New Yorkers seem to love it. And I'm sure I'll like it when I see it in person. And at least it's glass... overall I think the NWTC is really nice. Also, what's wrong with 7WTC? Too bland? I kinda love it. It's really beautiful. And so is 4WTC.

[Realthang]

The #2 crane cab is on site... no steel columns today apparently

[NYguy]

Also, what's wrong with 7WTC? Too bland? I kinda love it. It's really beautiful. And so is 4WTC.


I happen to like 7 WTC and tower 4 as well...

http://www.builditnow.com/images/FE/chain198siteType8/site164/client/photoGallery/184/7_8_lrg_big.jpghttp://www.builditnow.com/images/FE/chain198siteType8/site164/client/photoGallery/188/new_images_4_lrg_big.jpg
builditnow.com

[NYguy]

The #2 crane cab is on site... no steel columns today apparently

Fun to watch on the cam...

Wednesday, 8:00 am

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78876139/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78876166/original.jpg

[Renton]

the memoriol site is a waist of space ! make a twin towers 700 - 800 m tall ther

You have any compassion for the victims of 9/11. Amazing the lack of respect for what happen.

[Thskyscraper]

Also, what's wrong with 7WTC? Too bland? I kinda love it. It's really beautiful. And so is 4WTC.

Agreed, quality materials can make up for what may seem like a 'bland' design. Not to mention it's lit up quite well and the base IMO is pretty damn good. Love that pic that NYguy posted of it at sunset/night.

[djvandrake]

Indeed. I've grown to love 7 WTC. It's a clean design that was exceptionally done.

The cab and counter weights are on the second crane. :tup:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9064/ftconstmay16oc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[NYguy]

The cab and counter weights are on the second crane. :tup:


Very exciting watching the cranes in that photo.:yes:

[Realthang]

De crane boss, de crane...

We have all or parts of the crane boom coming in. If the rest of the boom comes in, get out yer camera's for the guys walking up and down the boom to run the cable!

[NYguy]

Here's a cam shot from 8:00 am...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78923069/original.jpg

[djvandrake]

De crane boss, de crane...

We have all or parts of the crane boom coming in. If the rest of the boom comes in, get out yer camera's for the guys walking up and down the boom to run the cable!


Cool! For the benefit of those of us who are 1,000 miles away (and wish we wern't), you mind snappin a few pics of that? ;)

[djvandrake]

Just found this....glad it wasn't serious injury.



2 hurt by falling WTC skyscraper debris

By AMY WESTFELDT, Associated Press Writer

A 15-foot pipe fell off a skyscraper being dismantled near the World Trade Center site and plunged through the roof of a nearby firehouse Thursday, injuring two firefighters, officials said.

Demolition work was stopped on the 40-story former Deutsche Bank building after the sprinkler pipe fell from the 35th floor onto Engine 10/Ladder 10.

The firehouse was nearly destroyed in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Six of its firefighters were among the 343 killed responding to the burning World Trade Center, and a bronze memorial to all the firefighters who died is now affixed to the building.

The neighboring skyscraper, being dismantled floor by floor, was heavily damaged when one of the twin towers collapsed into it. Cleanup of toxic material in the building began in 2005, and work to dismantle it began late last year.

Workers from John Galt Corp. were cutting the pipe at around 7 a.m. when it dislodged and fell through the firehouse roof below, officials said. Two firefighters were treated for minor injuries and released, fire officials said. The firefighters weren't hit by the pipe, the department said.

The city Buildings Department issued John Galt Corp. a violation for failure to safeguard the public and property, spokeswoman Kate Lindquist said. A message left with the company wasn't immediately returned Thursday.

Work dismantling the former Deutsche Bank building has been stopped before by environmental regulators. A search is also ongoing for hundreds of human bones that have been recovered from the building over the past 18 months.

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[tobyas333]

Okay here we are:

http://freenet-homepage.de/tobyas333/newyorkfreedom17mai.gif

http://freenet-homepage.de/tobyas333/newyorkfreedom17mai2.gif

[BroncoCSU05]

yay! and to think, in another 5 years, we may actually see the tower coming out of the ground!!!

[RockMont]

By then it should be complete.

[BroncoCSU05]

i remember the good 'old days when they said the towers should finish early '08.

[northface]

i think that if it moved along that fast....and been done by 08' the project as a whole wouldnt have been at its full potential and planning was just a rish to get it up and done....eitherway...i think people would complain. I think its great to see work being done...and its exciting to see these two cranes now building upwards!

[Realthang]

Cool! For the benefit of those of us who are 1,000 miles away (and wish we wern't), you mind snappin a few pics of that? ;)

You're not the only one who is a long way away from NYC, although I am much closer than you. I would love to work in downtown Manhatten (now).

[NYguy]

By then it should be complete.

I think that was a failed attempt at humor...

[NYguy]

Thursday, 7:00 pm

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78944438/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78944448/original.jpg

[NYguy]

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_209/lookoutbelow.html
May 18 - 24, 2007

Look out below! Billions worth of building down at the W.T.C.

By Josh Rogers

Construction costs

The Port’s leaders said buying steel and concrete has become like buying in a commodities market, and a nationwide construction slowdown does not help prices because they are competing with China and the rest of the world for materials.

Construction contracts for the Freedom Tower, which the Port is paying Silverstein to build, are about 50 percent completed so it is safer from cost overruns than the memorial. More and more steel is rising from the ground on the 1,776-foot tower, expected to become the world’s tallest building.

Shorris said progress on the site is exactly where it should be, but there are three steps needed before the reality reaches the public. The first has been taken — getting actual work underway. The second will come shortly — having cranes below street level — visible to passersby. The third should come next year when much of the site will be built up to street level and people can monitor the work themselves.

The Port is a bi-state agency created by Congress and is also responsible for the PATH commuter lines and many of the region’s tunnels and bridges. When Shorris was asked how much of his time he is spending on the W.T.C., he quickly said “ a lot,” before mentioning the man who hired him a few months ago to run the Port, Gov. Eliot Spitzer.

“There’s $16 billion worth of construction on 16 acres and we have a lot of emotional ties because we lost so many people…,” he said referring to the 84 Port employees killed on Sept. 11, 2001. “The governor asks about it constantly. Eliot’s been on the site a few times.”

By tradition, the New Jersey governor selects the Port’s chairperson and the New York governor picks the executive director.

Last year, the Port and city were concerned that Silverstein did not have the money to build the entire site and the agency renegotiated its long-term lease with the developer. Silverstein agreed to give up control of the two least valuable parcels — the Freedom Tower site and Tower 5 — some of the insurance money, and some of the tax-free Liberty Bonds, in exchange for retaining the rights to the three office sites and retail space on Church St. The Port is building the eastern “bathtub” slurry wall and must have the Tower 3 and 4 sites ready for Silverstein by Jan. 1, or pay him $300,000 a day while it finishes up.

Shorris said they are on track to have the sites ready right on time, which means one setback could trigger expensive fines. “That’s what we lose a lot of sleep over — delivering the site on time,” he said.

[Scruffy]

300,000 a day!?! Thats amazing. Were this any other site, id almost expect sabptage on the tub work to delay it enough to make 300gs a day in penalties. But at this point, i can pretty much figure that everyone involved knows that more delays will cost them public approval which in this project apparently means everything

[Ghost]

Have you noticed that there is a new steel column placed? It's marked with red arrow in the pic. It appears to be placed 14. May. Also, seems like there is more coming, in the truck.
http://i9.tinypic.com/67gwm02.jpg

[Daquan13]

Today they said that they're going to put more steal columns today.

Oh yes im new i just joined yestarday.



Welcome to the forum!

Yes, you called it right!! One more steel column has been put there, and there's more on the truck in the pic above near the bottom (red arrows)!

Also, looks like the 2nd tower crane is completed.

[CoolCzech]

300,000 a day!?! Thats amazing. Were this any other site, id almost expect sabptage on the tub work to delay it enough to make 300gs a day in penalties. But at this point, i can pretty much figure that everyone involved knows that more delays will cost them public approval which in this project apparently means everything

Don't feel TOO sorry for them: they collected millions from Silverstein for an empty hole in the ground for years, a hole kept empty by their own inability to decide on a rebuilding strategy.

[NYguy]

Don't feel TOO sorry for them: they collected millions from Silverstein for an empty hole in the ground for years, a hole kept empty by their own inability to decide on a rebuilding strategy.

That's exactly right. And they should have started work on building that new "tub" sooner anyway. Everyone knew what was going there once the site plan was finalized. But you can bet they will have it done on time, if not sooner. The PA can build, when it wants to. After all, who built the original WTC?

[Daquan13]

Rockafella, the PA, Yama, Emery Roth & Sons and Tishman. Haha!!:haha:

Things sort of went smoothly then, for the first time back then, radically new construction techniques were being developed and used.

Not to say that there were no problems with building the towers then. But new challenges were met and somehow worked out.

But yes NYguy, you're right!! They knew what was up and they knew about the final designs then, so they should have got cracking on putting the tub in as soon as things were finalized.

[NYguy]

www.rsh-p.com


http://www.rsh-p.com/Asp/uploadedFiles/image/5270_WTC_tower3/concept/5270_0019_1_w.jpg?

[Daquan13]

NYguy, how would that pic look with the GS Tower added to it?

Just wondering.

[Realthang]

It appears that the steel column delivered this morning wasn't up to specifications and was sent packing to where it came from!

Oops, wrong part?

[Daquan13]

Now that makes me wonder if the other ones are the right ones!

[NYguy]

NYguy, how would that pic look with the GS Tower added to it?

Just wondering.

More dense.

[NYguy]

Couple of pics from that Downtown Express article...
http://downtownexpress.com/de_210/lookoutbelowbillions.html

http://downtownexpress.com/de_210/wtc.gif

Construction activity at the W.T.C.


http://downtownexpress.com/de_210/folks.gif

Taking pictures of the site remains a popular tourist activity.

[Crunked Up]

More dense.

Cop out!!! :haha:

[CoolCzech]

Indeed. I've grown to love 7 WTC. It's a clean design that was exceptionally done.




I agree. It should do wonders for Childs's reputation.


It's a pity that for future generations of tourists and visitors 7WTC will be more or less forgotten, hidden and overshadowed by its larger companion towers. But for those of us have been following the rebuild of the World Trade Center all these years now, it will always be "our First."

[vanhenrik]

i wonder how long it will takes to rely se the cunstruktion end the bulding is cuming up ?

[Ghost]

I think the steel is going to raise above street level somewhere next year. Is that correct?

Maybe a little offtopic, but it seems like they are starting slurry wall work on north-east side of the site (tower 2). Or at least they are erecting a big red crane, same kind what was on FT site earlier.

Does anyone know, when it's suppose to see core moving up?

[Daquan13]

Correct on the 1st question. Even though steel is being delivered one column at a time right now, the bulk of it for the infrastructure WILL start arriving sometime between year's end and early next year.

And that IS when we'll see the base start to rise above the street level.

Yes, the slurry wall (bathtub) IS being put in on the east side as we speak. Looks like the red crane was moved over to that side.

Later this summer, we should see the core start to rise more. Though when 7 WTC was being erected, no one could see the core rising.

[mcdonnell77]

Is this the second tallest building under construction apart from those cheating Abraj Al Bait Towers?

[Daquan13]

It will be the country's tallest unless something taller in Chicago comes along.

[vanhenrik]

i hawe to say this has taken toooo long to come to this stage ! 6 years !
other contereys hawe in this time alredy bult the tower ! end being finiched whit it !

[DUBAI2015]

It will be the country's tallest unless something taller in Chicago comes along.

*cough* Chicago spire *cough*

[GarCastle]

Do any admins actually watch these posts so they can delete the reiterative "taking too long" and "my imaginary project is bigger than yours" heh.

[Daquan13]

*cough* Chicago spire *cough*



Umm, I didn't want to say that here because people might start hijacking the thread again.

[djvandrake]

Umm, I didn't want to say that here because people might start hijacking the thread again.


Yeah, don't go there. The last thing we need is another "mine is better than yours" tit for tat.

Really, I don't know why people engage in that rivalry. I am thrilled that both NY and Chicago are seeing so much activity. If my little city had just ONE of these 700+ footers under construction we'd be doing backflips down market steet drunk and naked. :banana:

I say enjoy the construction boom and be happy for all the new projects we are fortunate enough to witness. NY, Chicago, Philly, Miami, and San Francisco are all getting new tallest and it's an exciting thing to see. :banana:

[ATLksuGUY]

Yeah, don't go there. The last thing we need is another "mine is better than yours" tit for tat.

Really, I don't know why people engage in that rivalry. I am thrilled that both NY and Chicago are seeing so much activity. If my little city had just ONE of these 700+ footers under construction we'd be doing backflips down market steet drunk and naked. :banana:

I say enjoy the construction boom and be happy for all the new projects we are fortunate enough to witness. NY, Chicago, Philly, Miami, and San Francisco are all getting new tallest and it's an exciting thing to see. :banana:

without the competition you'd be lookin at a bunch of 70 foot buildings

[Scruffy]

5.18
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/DSC04533.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/DSC04536.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/DSC04534.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/DSC04548.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/DSC04549.jpg

and what you see from street level
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/DSC04555.jpg

[NYguy]

^ It's amazing just seeing those cranes up close. One thing I notice as you
approach the WTC via the PATH train, is the the site is much furter along
with construction than most people probably realize.

A few more pics from the site...

MAY 20, 2007

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139383/large.jpg

2. The new rises, but the old is not forgotten...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139407/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139421/large.jpg

4. Hard to imagine that the city's tallest skyscraper will rise here...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139475/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139486/large.jpg

6. One comes down, as one goes up...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139489/large.jpg

7. Looking beyond the FT site, its only a matter of time for those stairs...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139491/large.jpg

8.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139497/large.jpg

9.Always a favorite viewing spot, the WFC will offer an eyefull next year...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139529/large.jpg

10.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139560/large.jpg

[Daquan13]

I think I know now how those cranes will work safely. They are both facing oposite direction of each other so that their masts don't collide with each other. Brilliant move!

And note the concrete truck coming down the ramp in the top pic; An indication that construction is in full swing!

[Scruffy]

I think I know now how those cranes will work safely. They are both facing oposite direction of each other so that their masts don't collide with each other. Brilliant move!

And note the concrete truck coming down the ramp in the top pic; An indication that construction is in full swing!

That is why those crane operators get the big big bucks. they know their stuff. The old ones were built the same way but with 4 cranes which i still hold out is the way this one will rise. very impressive stuff

[Daquan13]

That is why those crane operators get the big big bucks. they know their stuff. The old ones were built the same way but with 4 cranes which i still hold out is the way this one will rise. very impressive stuff



You mean STRUT their stuff!

It will be a very phenominal thing to see this tower rise from the ashes! New York's tallest!!

[ramvid01]

http://www.panynj.gov/drp/gallery/showPics.php?year=07&month=cr04&pnav=crpicstble

Not sure if this was reported but the Port Authority posted pics about 6 days ago from April.