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[CarlosV]

Anyone know where the glass is compared to 7 World Trade Center? Maybe a picture up close Carlos? Thanks


Ok, so here it is it happened today!!! :banana::banana: the curtain wall on the east side of the tower has finally reached the roof height of 7 WTC !!

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[CarlosV]

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[2-TOWERS]

WOW......Beautiful shots thankyou :cheers:

[NewYorkSkyline117]

Ok, so here it is it happened today!!! :banana::banana: the curtain wall on the east side of the tower has finally reached the roof height of 7 WTC !!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6092/6347024543_5b2882cab8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6347024543/)
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Yay!:banana: I was actually in the city today :)

[Otie]

1 WTC's 20-story base gets new glass design (http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20111115/REAL_ESTATE/111119917)
By Theresa Agovino
November 15, 2011 3:37 p.m.

A new plan to clad the base of 1 World Trade Center in glass was approved Tuesday bythe building's owner, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, after technical problems forced the redesign of a previous scheme earlier this year.
Crain's reported this month that the Port Authority had reached a new design after the plan to enclose the 185-foot-tall concrete base in prismatic glass panels designed to reflect light were too difficult to make and shattered easily.
The Port Authority's board authorized $37.2 million towards project and contract costs. Permasteelisa North American Corp. will engineer, fabricate and install the new facade, which will consist of stainless steel slat panels around the building's concrete base, covered with glass fins. The glass fins will reflect light during the day, giving the building's base a distinctive look, the Port Authority said.
The new design is significantly less expensive than the original. In 2008, the Port Authority awarded an $82 million contract to manufacture and put up the glass, but it was unclear how much of that money was ever dispersed.
Installation of the redesigned façade will begin in 2013 and is expected to keep pace with the scheduled completion of the tower by the end of that year.
"The World Trade Center site continues to progress at a historic pace and approving this design is a cost-effective solution to a complex problem," Port Authority Chairman David Samson said in a statement. "It provides a practical way to cover the tower's secure base, and give it an innovative, inviting look for the thousands of workers who will be employed there and the millions of tourists who will visit it."
The design is the latest chapter in a saga to design the signature skyscraper at the World Trade Center site so it will be among the safest in the world because of its allure as a potential terrorist target yet at the same time be distinctive enough to symbolize the city's rebound from tragedy.
The massive concrete base is one of the building's major safety elements but it means that office space in the 1,776-foot tower doesn't start until the 20th floor. The challenge was to create a facade that did not look like a bunker and suggested movement, life and light where none existed. However, the panels of prismatic glass broke too easily. In an interview with Crain's earlier this year, tower architect David Childs, a consulting design partner at Skidmore Owings & Merrill, said, “It had to be a proud gesture to our resilience.”
Mr. Childs had to redesign the building back in 2005 when the New York Police Department voiced concerns about whether the tower could withstand a blast from a car bomb. A year later, Mr. Childs presented the plan with the glass-wrapped concrete base.


Little factoid: Permasteelisa is the glass consultant for Foster's Tower 2.

[Davidsam52]

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Cool! The helicopter which took the preceding aerials is in the (1st) photo here taken by the CarlosCam!!:tup::tup::tup:

[THE BIG APPLE]

You mean the curtain wall on the north side and maybe east has finally reached the roof of 7WTC. It seems like east when looking from your apartment.

[Roadcruiser1]

Cool! The helicopter which took the preceding aerials is in the (1st) photo here taken by the CarlosCam!!:tup::tup::tup:

I hope there were tourists on board that helicopter that could get pictures of One World Trade Center from up there, and post them on the forums.

[SkylineFan]

I just read an interesting fact that when 1 WTC is completed, it will be the "WORLD'S tallest all-office building" :tup:

[jd3189]

I just read an interesting fact that when 1 WTC is completed, it will be the "WORLD'S tallest all-office building" :tup:

Yep. I guess the U.S. could make record buildings through that factor. We've been doing that ever since.

[Kevin Scott Koepke]

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Please do not repost, copy, or otherwise reproduce. Thank you.:banana:

[Tosspot]

Anyone know how many floors high it is now? I'd be curious to know for dating my aerial pictures.

[m0by]

Cladding the base will beginn in 2013? Oh man... a long time to wait...!

[hunser]

recent pic:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6346851995_dac2e4630f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jherg424/6346851995/)
Freedom Tower, from West Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jherg424/6346851995/) von jherg424 (http://www.flickr.com/people/jherg424/) auf Flickr

old pic:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/6346046673_25cb268a00_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32343662@N08/6346046673/)
remains of the day (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32343662@N08/6346046673/) von dicegirlsnapz (http://www.flickr.com/people/32343662@N08/) auf Flickr

[mat97]

The coverage has started...:cheers::banana::yes::yes::tup:

[Biff]

I just read an interesting fact that when 1 WTC is completed, it will be the "WORLD'S tallest all-office building" :tup:

I guess it's semantics again, but to me it won't even be the tallest office building in the US. Sears (Willis) Tower - 1451, One World Trade Center - 1368. I hate how Sears consistently gets ripped off in the height categories when it is so tall to the roof. I'm not slagging OWTC, i think it is a great building in fact.


The aerials above a few posts ago are amazing.

[sask1982]

When is it estimated that the building will be topped off (steel structure)? Mid 2012?

[Danielson27]

:previous: 1st quarter 2012; likely march

[SkylineFan]

I guess it's semantics again, but to me it won't even be the tallest office building in the US. Sears (Willis) Tower - 1451, One World Trade Center - 1368. I hate how Sears consistently gets ripped off in the height categories when it is so tall to the roof. I'm not slagging OWTC, i think it is a great building in fact.


The aerials above a few posts ago are amazing.

Ya, I agree.. But according to the spire/antenna.. It will be the "TALLEST BUILDING IN THE UNITED STATES", right?

[CyberEric]

Ya, I agree.. But according to the spire/antenna.. It will be the "TALLEST BUILDING IN THE UNITED STATES", right?

If you believe that the antenna represents the top of the building then yes. I think roof height matters more, but I may well be alone on that.

This building is looking good, I will be in NY next week and look forward to seeing it.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

I just read an interesting fact that when 1 WTC is completed, it will be the "WORLD'S tallest all-office building" :tup:

That's what Wikipedia said! :)

[NewYorkSkyline117]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AQcsPQkVmRk

Memorial Video please watch

[CarlosV]

today raining all day...tower not visible....below from yesterday

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[Yankee fan for life]

1 wtc will be the tallest building in the U.S by pinnacle height not by roof.

[CHAPINM1]

I say this building has two roofs, the lower at 1,373' and the upper at 1,401'5"... :tup:

[Roadcruiser1]

The upper part is not a roof. It's a telecommunications ring.

[CarlosV]

this tower will be as tall as the former WTC......thats it! 40 years ago would have been tallest in the world....

[george]

Tribune Tower, Chicago

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2595/tribwtc.jpg

[Guiltyspark]

If you believe that the antenna represents the top of the building then yes. I think roof height matters more, but I may well be alone on that.

This building is looking good, I will be in NY next week and look forward to seeing it.

I agree. The mental gymnastics that some people go through to say antennas and spires count are amazing. :banana:

[m0by]

It's a never endling story -> roof hight vs pinnacle hight... and you'll never find a solution which both sides will accept!

So lean back and relax :cheers:

Edit: In Germany we got a word for discussions like this: "Schwanzvergleich" - who has got the biggest!? :D

[NewYorkSkyline117]

this tower will be as tall as the former WTC......thats it! 40 years ago would have been tallest in the world....

Would you still consider a roof height of 1, 368 feet tall? :shrug:

[NewYorkSkyline117]

Would you still consider a roof height of 1, 368 feet tall? :shrug:

I think the roof height should have been 1, 776 feet (year) and an antennae of 2, 001 feet (year 2001)

[MadGnome]

Would you still consider a roof height of 1, 368 feet tall? :shrug:

Still wrong. The roof is only 1334'. with a 34' parapet surrounding it.

[Zapatan]

Still wrong. The roof is only 1334'. with a 34' parapet surrounding it.


Yea but the visual mass is more like 1400 feet or so, it has the impression of a building that tall.

It's slightly shorter and a bit wider at the top than Sears tower, which has an extremely dominating presence, so this tower should be insane aswell.

4WTC, a 300 meter box is quite a big building and will look pretty small next to this one, so it should be really cool once completed. :frog:

[fountainkopf]

What kinda insulation values do they use on;

A. windows
B. walls
C. roofs

triple or quadruble glazing ?

[2-TOWERS]

this tower will be as tall as the former WTC......thats it! 40 years ago would have been tallest in the world....

Perfectly Said !!!!!!!!!!!

[Danielson27]

88th floor almost decked out, probably will finish later today...We might see new steel on Saturday! :)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6218/6353446007_97c98af976_b.jpg

[dchan]

It's a never endling story -> roof hight vs pinnacle hight... and you'll never find a solution which both sides will accept!

So lean back and relax :cheers:

Edit: In Germany we got a word for discussions like this: "Schwanzvergleich" - who has got the biggest!? :D

Indeed. In this case, those who advocate for roof height are concerned not just about length, but about girth as well. What can I say? They like their towers thick and meaty! :)

[RockMont]

I agree. The mental gymnastics that some people go through to say antennas and spires count are amazing. :banana:




Unless there is access to the top point of it, such as the one at the Empire State Building, then no it doesn't count. Not unless you can go there like the spire at the Empire State Building. Still this building is the same height as the originals, and that is all that matters.

[hunser]

BIG NEWS!!!

CBS New York (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/16/port-authority-shows-off-glass-for-one-world-trade-center/)

Port Authority Shows Off Glass For One World Trade Center

NEW YORK (WCBS 880) - The public was given a sneak peek Tuesday of what the base of the new One World Trade Center will look like once it’s completed in 2013.
The new design for the exterior cladding on One World Trade Center features horizontal stainless steel panels behind vertical glass fins going up the 20 stories of the fortress-like base.


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcglass_111115_620_1.jpg?w=300
Sample of One World Trade Center Glass (credit: Port Authority)


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcglass_111115_620_2.jpg?w=420&h=315
One World Trade Center glass sample (credit: Port Authority)


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcnight_111115_620_1.jpg?w=420&h=315
Rendering of One World Trade Center base at night (credit: Port Authority)

“They will reflect light during the day and the night and give the building’s base a distinctive look,” said Port Authority executive director Patrick Foye on Tuesday. “In the evening, the combination of the water and the lights on the memorial pools we think, frankly, will be picked up by the glass on the podium at One World Trade Center and it’s consistent with the overall aesthetic of the site.”


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcdayrendering_111115_620_1.jpg?w=420&h=251
Rendering of One World Trade Center base during the day (credit: Port Authority)

Foye calls the concept superior aesthetically and cost-effective.


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcnightlightsample_111115_620_1.jpg?w=420&h=560
One World Trade Center night lighting sample (credit: Port Authority)


“It is going to save the Port Authority about $8-to-$12 million and the product will be manufactured by an Italian company located in Greenwich and Windsor, Connecticut,” he said on Tuesday.

[gramsjdg]

Sweet. This is definitely superior to the original design.

Also, notice how the 4 corners of the base are vertical and not tapered like the steel structure underneath? Interesting.

[Danielson27]

It's nice but wtf! why would they spend all that time to create those tapered corners for them not to show it when the building is completed. Very disapointing :(

[uaarkson]

That rendering can't be right. Wasn't the whole purpose of the tapered corners to deflect energy from a truck bomb blast?

[pnapp1]

That rendering can't be right. Wasn't the whole purpose of the tapered corners to deflect energy from a truck bomb blast?

It still would. The curtain wall, no mater how it was angled would no nothing to deflect the blast. The blast walls will still do the job.

[vandelay]

One day, in the distant future, when America has gotten over the collective Patriot Act paranoia and insecurity after 9/11, maybe they'll take down this ugly facade, and the chamfered corners will come out again.

I doubt it though!

[jsr]

BIG NEWS!!!
http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcnight_111115_620_1.jpg?w=420&h=315
Rendering of One World Trade Center base at night (credit: Port Authority)

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcdayrendering_111115_620_1.jpg?w=420&h=251
Rendering of One World Trade Center base during the day (credit: Port Authority)


There is some stylistic resemblance to original WTC facade in these renderings, however they seem to visually downplay the horizontal stainless panels.

[599GTO]

That base looks so crappy compared to the old. WHERE ARE THE TAPERED CORNERS?

Is that picture with the lights really what the base is going to look like? LOL, it looks like a nightclub in Miami circa 2000.

[599GTO]

There is some stylistic resemblance to original WTC facade in these renderings, however they seem to visually downplay the horizontal stainless panels.

The original WTC is so ugly, I don't want to be reminded of its awful 1970s facade.

The old base was far superior to this. This terrorism paranoia is so ridiculous needs to be calmed.

[meh_cd]

Corners are gone, you can't see the steel structure underneath anymore, and it's ugly as sin. We already have a boring stainless steel base next door at WTC 7. What a shame.

[Plokoon11]

For those saying that the roof height should be the highest point in which a person can stand. Well the spire has a ladder inside it. However if it was a lightening rod type of antenna then it would be understandable.

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Anyhow I really like the new glass idea!

[CarlosV]

cold and rainy day in Gotham.....

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[Roadcruiser1]

If they are going with this why don't they just make the base similar to the original Twin Towers. It already is going vertical why not add tridents :cheers:.

[MadGnome]

It's good that some halfwit dick measuring contest refugee doesn't want to add a 40' antenna to the spire so they can top the CN tower.

[599GTO]

If they are going with this why don't they just make the base similar to the original Twin Towers. It already is going vertical why not add tridents :cheers:.

But the original twin towers were unattractive. Why would they replicate an outdated, drab, hideous 1970s base in 2011?

I would much rather have this than have any sort of replication of the old buildings.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

Nobody uses roofing shingles for a flat roof. The typical roofing material for flat roofs is asphaltic membrane.

Seriously? This is a skyscraper......:haha:

[dchan]

Seriously? This is a skyscraper......:haha:

:???: Not sure what you mean. Please explain.

[Roadcruiser1]

No they were not unattractive. Have you ever seen their interior design.

[FMIII]

Clearly, the new base cladding is much better than the previous one. It looks less like a fortress and it blends in a better way with the upper floors blue glass..

In two words: good news!:)

[Stu]

Clearly, the new base cladding is much better than the previous one. It looks less like a fortress and it blends in a better way with the upper floors blue glass..

In two words: good news!:)

Agreed. I found the older renderings of the base a bit too busy. The facade seems much simpler now, which I find compliments the rest of the structure. At the very least, it should blend in more with the tower portion's facade than the older renderings indicated.

[Zafor]

I think the old design is superior. I compare this to the changes made to wtc 3. The x-braces at the base of wtc gave the building complexity and dimension, just like in wtc 3, but now the base of wtc and the middle of wtc 3 look simple and a little blank. I also miss the edges that were taperered in.
Give it time to grow though, and I will like it. I mean, it could have looked worse.

[Otie]

dbox
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4619/1wtc.jpg

encore
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/390/encored.jpg


SOM November 2011 Fact sheet (http://www.som.com/common/images/wtc_press_kit/one.world.trade.center.fact.sheet.pdf)

The tower rises from a podium wall base whose square plan – 200 feet by 200 feet – is the same
size as the footprints of the original Twin Towers. The podium wall base is 186 feet tall and consists
of vertical laminated glass fins and horizontal stainless steel slats. The more than 4000 glass fins,
each measuring 13 feet 4 inches by two feet, are positioned at varying angles in a regular pattern
over the height of the podium. This pattern both accommodates ventilation for the mechanical levels
behind the podium wall, and in combination with a reflective coating refracts and transmits light to
create a dynamic, shimmering glass surface.

[IntoTheLens827]

I am just wondering about this new Base Design. (I don't see the "STEEL BEAMS" in the new Design). I did like the look & the design of the steel beams in the old Design. I am going to miss them Steel Beams if they are covered for good... :( It is what it is I guess. It's going to be something for me to get used to & in time, it will all work out! :cool: -Greg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COlVKbnxFLQ

[Roadcruiser1]

dbox
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4619/1wtc.jpg

Seventh Art Group, encore
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/390/encored.jpg


SOM November 2011 Fact sheet (http://www.som.com/common/images/wtc_press_kit/one.world.trade.center.fact.sheet.pdf)

That base does look a lot like the base of the Twin Towers. Add the tridents :whip:.

[Roadcruiser1]

For those of you that like steel beams, I suggest that you guys take a subway train across the Manhattan Bridge sometime. You would see a lot of trusses, and the new World Trade Center.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

:???: Not sure what you mean. Please explain.

A skyscraper has an extremely different roof than a house. It doesn't just end at a roof with shingles. Look at a bunch of pictures of skyscrapers and you won't see shingles. It's just steel, titanium, or whatever they use to top it out..

[meh_cd]

A skyscraper has an extremely different roof than a house. It doesn't just end at a roof with shingles. Look at a bunch of pictures of skyscrapers and you won't see shingles. It's just steel, titanium, or whatever they use to top it out..

And it is often covered by the asphalt coating and gravel, as he said.

In short, you don't know what you are talking about.

[SkylineFan]

The Occupy Wall Street movement is currently on the Brooklyn Bridge and it's live on CNN and you can see the World Trade Center in the background and from it's angle, it looks bigger than the Beekman Tower!

[dchan]

A skyscraper has an extremely different roof than a house. It doesn't just end at a roof with shingles. Look at a bunch of pictures of skyscrapers and you won't see shingles. It's just steel, titanium, or whatever they use to top it out..

I was responding to another poster who wanted to know what type of shingles they used on skyscrapers. Please read posts more carefully before responding next time.

Nobody uses titanium as a static structural material because it's ridiculously expensive while having similar strength properties that steel does (it's lighter than steel, which is why it's used in aerospace for applications that require strength). Steel and concrete is used for the structure that underlies a flat roof (think of it as no different than the structure underlying any other floor in the building), but the exposed nature of a roof means that it needs to be designed to drain properly. That requires the use of waterproof membranes to prevent water from leaking into the building, as well as slightly-sloping roof angles and drains to transport rain and snowmelt off of the roof (the slope is nowhere as sharp as the slope of an A-frame house, but it's there).

Usually, the waterproof membranes are made from asphaltic materials because (a) they're cheap materials that suit the purpose, and (b) roof membranes are usually designed for only 20 years of service, after which they need to be replaced with new roofing membranes. So why bother using a more expensive material if it's going to be replaced anyway?

And thanks, meh cd, for your help here.

[Jeff900]

Stu,it's you from Montreal,I was looking for you..(Moi aussi j'viens d'Montréal ! :P )
I prefer the new base of the Tower.Its very beautiful,especially at night with lights,just like CN Tower...!!!
Its gonna be awesome all those lights with waterfalls,awesome!
I'm awaiting the giant forest that is gonna be there,will all the trees...
Are there gonna be more trees to plant ?
How much time is it gonna take for the giant forest to form,just like on renderings of the Plaza ? :P Thanks a lot :)

[Hudson11]

The Occupy Wall Street movement is currently on the Brooklyn Bridge and it's live on CNN and you can see the World Trade Center in the background and from it's angle, it looks bigger than the Beekman Tower!
sorry to go off topic but really? again? lol

how tall is 1 wtc now? approaching/past 1100 ft? no wonder it looks taller from that angle.

[Vesey]

Old:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/202631900_047ba88411_o.jpg

New:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/390/encored.jpg

Just an Old vs New Comparison. It looks really, really, good. The only thing bothering me is the chamfers. Why are they gone? Anyone know?

[Roadcruiser1]

It's going to be hidden. Now the base looks extremely close to the base of the original Twin Towers.

[IntoTheLens827]

It's going to be hidden. Now the base looks extremely close to the base of the original Twin Towers.

I kinda figured that would be the case with the support beams on the inside of the base cladding. Oh well. Time to get used to the new Design now. It really does looks like the Twin Towers Base now. It's going to look good either way now :tup:

[Otie]

Columns will get noticeable at night.

[jd3189]

This complex has a lot of options it can take to be similar to the old one. If a lot of opportunities are picked,it will be almost close to the pre-9/11 era we will ever get to.

[NewYorker2009]

I like the new glass, who needs that tapering shit anyway, the rest of the building has enough of that. This will make it look more massive from the ground and will give the viewer the full feel of the 205' width. I'm for this new design, the Port Authority finally did something right for a change. This is going to be one awesome building when its finished. Is it the Twin Towers, no, but it is a decent replacement for the re-birth of the World Trade Center.

[Roadcruiser1]

The comparison.

Old World Trade Center
http://www.triroc.com/wtc/media/wtc.fountain.jpeg

Vs.

New World Trade Center
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/390/encored.jpg

[aquablue]

I prefer the old base, this one looks rather utilitarian to me. It may blend in better, but it isn't as visually interesting to me and rather dull. Actually, it reminds me of a 60's office block now. There is nothing to capture my attention given it is now a glass box.

[Roadcruiser1]

I don't get the dislikes for the new base. It looks a lot like the base for the original Twin Towers and basically tells the history of the site better then anything else except for the Memorial and the Museum.

[jd3189]

The comparison.

Old World Trade Center
http://www.triroc.com/wtc/media/wtc.fountain.jpeg

Vs.

New World Trade Center
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/390/encored.jpg

Why do they always miss the chance to design the "tridents" that were a part of the Twins? I'm serious,these people are missing a great opportunity.

[Otie]

Really interesting arrangement. The space between glass panels will be wider at the center of each face, rotated at a maximum 60°, decreasing 3° until getting at the edges completely flat. Columns will be hardly noticeable during day, but since I do not know the light arrangement, I can't be sure if they'll pop up during night. If LEDs get attached to the stainless steel slats, then columns won't appear, but if they get installed a few feet behind the facade, then yes they'll be visible, being more visible at the center.
Thank God they added a frosted finish to the panels, as well as transparency. This two properties will not only make the facade much more interesting but will also reduce the dark reflections of streets from certain aerial angles.

Preview:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6221/6356739391_3fe5554e9d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6356739391/)
Glass fins at One World Trade Center podium (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62018165@N04/6356739391/) by Otie O'Daniel (http://www.flickr.com/people/62018165@N04/), on Flickr

[Roadcruiser1]

When STR comes on someone has to remind him of the new base design so he can redesign One World Trade Center on his model.

[m0by]

I really like the new design of the base! It looks more balanced than before.
Thumbs up from Germany :cheers:

[jthornton17]

I don't get the dislikes for the new base. It looks a lot like the base for the original Twin Towers and basically tells the history of the site better then anything else except for the Memorial and the Museum. I agree. In so many ways, this new WTC 1 has many elements of the original WTC 1. That should make a lot of people happy, who wanted those rebuilt. It really pays a lot of respect to the site and memorial. It will be interesting to see what the real thing looks like. I think everyone here was amazed at how much better the glass looks in person. I can only hope the base will be the same. ON a side note, I can't believe the progress being made on 4 WTC. It looks like it's almost the same size as 7 WTC now.

[jthornton17]

BIG NEWS!!!

CBS New York (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/16/port-authority-shows-off-glass-for-one-world-trade-center/)

Port Authority Shows Off Glass For One World Trade Center

NEW YORK (WCBS 880) - The public was given a sneak peek Tuesday of what the base of the new One World Trade Center will look like once it’s completed in 2013.
The new design for the exterior cladding on One World Trade Center features horizontal stainless steel panels behind vertical glass fins going up the 20 stories of the fortress-like base.


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcglass_111115_620_1.jpg?w=300
Sample of One World Trade Center Glass (credit: Port Authority)


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcglass_111115_620_2.jpg?w=420&h=315
One World Trade Center glass sample (credit: Port Authority)


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcnight_111115_620_1.jpg?w=420&h=315
Rendering of One World Trade Center base at night (credit: Port Authority)

“They will reflect light during the day and the night and give the building’s base a distinctive look,” said Port Authority executive director Patrick Foye on Tuesday. “In the evening, the combination of the water and the lights on the memorial pools we think, frankly, will be picked up by the glass on the podium at One World Trade Center and it’s consistent with the overall aesthetic of the site.”


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcdayrendering_111115_620_1.jpg?w=420&h=251
Rendering of One World Trade Center base during the day (credit: Port Authority)

Foye calls the concept superior aesthetically and cost-effective.


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1wtcnightlightsample_111115_620_1.jpg?w=420&h=560
One World Trade Center night lighting sample (credit: Port Authority)


“It is going to save the Port Authority about $8-to-$12 million and the product will be manufactured by an Italian company located in Greenwich and Windsor, Connecticut,” he said on Tuesday.

I love the renders at night and the lighting on it. Just awesome! I could only imagine it in Red,white, and blue!

[tiarae]

With them saving money by finding a less expensive cladding for the base, maybe they'll be able to pay the ironworkers...10wks behind in their assessments is not good. When they get too far behind, progress slows down.

[animatedmartian]

Really interesting that they'll hide the chamfers. Always the subtle changes that have the most impact. I like it though, it's really reminiscent of the original towers. :tup: The only thing that would make it even more reminiscent would be if they some how managed to fit in tridents at some level around the base. But it's very pretty nonetheless. :D

[2-TOWERS]

Can't Wait to see WTC Live from Carlos Cam :tup:

[hunser]

by SSP forumer Tosspot
all pics from november 10th:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6036/6356757079_dc136bbc4d_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356757079/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356757079/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6059/6356756611_b8b150a084_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356756611/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356756611/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6119/6356756061_ed899ef923_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356756061/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356756061/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6102/6356755555_8f220f2609_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356755555/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356755555/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6036/6356754477_122cb90913_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356754477/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6356754477/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6055/6354987375_ccd719c5ee_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354987375/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354987375/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6354988115_29ab502165_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354988115/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354988115/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6216/6354987835_e486aabbe6_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354987835/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354987835/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6031/6354990463_7c90c86403_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354990463/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354990463/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6231/6354991141_6e1b778dee_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354991141/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354991141/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6228/6354988765_0e19f50e8f_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354988765/)
One World Trade Center Construction Aerials (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbowers/6354988765/) von ericbowers (http://www.flickr.com/people/ericbowers/) auf Flickr

[Don098]

:koko:All of those pictures were already posted, Hunser...

[SkylineFan]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6112/6358656367_32fa2e1cd5_z.jpg

Look at that baby soaring!
(Taken 2 hours ago)

[mrnyc]

i like the original base and the taper better, but this new version is not bad. the downside is it continues to make the building more bland and conservative. might be better at night tho. we will have to see.

its all on calatrava now to be eyepopping in the architecture dept -- keep hope alive for that!

[meh_cd]

i like the original base and the taper better, but this new version is not bad. the downside is it continues to make the building more bland and conservative. might be better at night tho. we will have to see.

its all on calatrava now to be eyepopping in the architecture dept -- keep hope alive for that!

My gripe is that it just looks like a modified version of Tower 7's base now. Slapped some glass fins on there and called it a day. It's exactly what I didn't want, but there isn't anything I can do about it.

[mrnyc]

My gripe is that it just looks like a modified version of Tower 7's base now. Slapped some glass fins on there and called it a day. It's exactly what I didn't want, but there isn't anything I can do about it.

ah you are right on about that at least from the render. looks more like 7 now than evocative of the old wtc. damn you value engineering!!

[Don098]

Yea, I have to agree. This is a major let-down...I know that lighting sample is just a sample, but they certainly could have chosen some better colors for their display. It looks like a casino YUCK

[hunser]

:koko:All of those pictures were already posted, Hunser...

Lol, I posted some similar pictures, look here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5480956&postcount=17801

The recent post includes some gems which were not posted before. :)

[599GTO]

Yea, I have to agree. This is a major let-down...I know that lighting sample is just a sample, but they certainly could have chosen some better colors for their display. It looks like a casino YUCK

I think that tacky Miami Vice lighting scheme presented was what initially turned me off.

Blue lighting would be been more presentable.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

`To all you, please stop complaining. I mean, what's more important? Our safety or just a design? Give the architects a break. They're doing they're best to even get this tower up.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

For all of you, stop complaining. I mean, what's more important? Our safety, or some design. Give the architects a break, they're already working hard enough to get this tower up..

[steveve]

I think the new base looks fine, and it blends in much better with the upper part of the building.. though it's kinda weird that the angled corners are not going to be part of the design anymore... kinda a waste,

a blend of the old tapered design plus this new cladding arrangement would be perfect,