PDA

View Full Version : NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS


Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 [144] 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361

Loqy Lion
Jun 21, 2011, 4:28 PM
I don't think you realize how lucky you New Yorkers are. You're pretty much getting a Sears Tower (1WTC), a John Hancock Center (3WTC), and an Aon Center (2WTC) within a 3 block area. Many cities in the US and around the world would do anything just to get a group of behemoths together like that.

Just like MrSlippery519 said, it's going to tower over everything in the area. When they are built, it would make other towers in the surrounding area look like they've shrunk a hundred feet.

We're not the rest of the world. We're New York.

Loqy Lion
Jun 21, 2011, 4:30 PM
Very well said. I am a New Yorker, and I feel very lucky with what is being built. As for a 2000 footer, i dont think that there will be a 2000 footer in NY untill 2020+

It's a shame the sheikhs didn't build any towers in NYC with their oil well money.

LJS
Jun 21, 2011, 5:12 PM
It's a shame the sheikhs didn't build any towers in NYC with their oil well money.

I hope for New York that it stays the way it is!

If being asked I couldn't tell even one design from there that would fit into the New York Skyline.

But I'm not a fan of their designs and architecture anyway :yuck:

JesseNewYorkCity
Jun 21, 2011, 5:19 PM
Not going to be tall? It is already taller than almost everything in the area and it's not quite half done.

I would love to see a 2000ft+ in NYC however that's not going to happen until after this has been completed. These 4 buildings are going to tower over everything.


It only has 34 more floors to go almost. Yes, it's nearly soaring over all the buildings in the Financial District, but 34 more floors isn't really that much... I just wish it was SUPER tall.

hunser
Jun 21, 2011, 5:20 PM
i know this is a bit off topic, but i have to ask: anyone know what happened to nyguy? i haven't seen him for a while... is he on vacation or something? :shrug:

JesseNewYorkCity
Jun 21, 2011, 5:24 PM
Does anyone know if the new WTC will have recessed lights in it?

jd3189
Jun 21, 2011, 5:57 PM
For some reason, I just don't feel like it's going to be tall. It doesn't look like it would be anyways. I wish New York would exceed the 2,000 ft range and build something "FASCINATING" ... Much more like build the tallest building in the world.. Now THAT would be awesome!

I don't think that matters. I think what matters is that this building is the tallest in the city right now. Besides,the Burj's gigantic size would ruin the skyline. "World's tallest" mean nothing anymore in New York if you want to build a building more than twice as tall as the Empire State Building.

jd3189
Jun 21, 2011, 6:06 PM
Does anyone know if the new WTC will have recessed lights in it?

You mean this?
http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.micilloelectric.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/IMG_1907.26880756_std.jpg&sa=X&ei=e90ATvqxJ8Xl0QH0q8HODg&ved=0CAQQ8wc4JA&usg=AFQjCNFPkSOIuHbz8RKq0-KJnm544yMTNQ

Fishman92
Jun 21, 2011, 6:08 PM
Hey, the PA cam is showing a huge section of glass has been skipped out. Anyone know why?

yankeesfan1000
Jun 21, 2011, 6:27 PM
i know this is a bit off topic, but i have to ask: anyone know what happened to nyguy? i haven't seen him for a while... is he on vacation or something? :shrug:

I was thinking the same thing today, you wanna PM him? Miss his seemingly endless updates, and information.

STR
Jun 21, 2011, 7:31 PM
Hey, the PA cam is showing a huge section of glass has been skipped out. Anyone know why?

You mean this? According to an eyewitness the workers ran into problems fitting it, so they gave up. It's probably defective. Since this is a custom cut pane, they're going to have to order a replacement. They can't just grab any pane and install it instead. The hole will likely be there for a few weeks to a couple of months.
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/3830/wtc321c.jpg
By ZippyTheChimp @ WiredNY (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&p=365708&viewfull=1#post365708)

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 21, 2011, 7:45 PM
3000+ is pretty extreme, even if it's in a few decades. In my opinion the US should be aiming for more shorter buildings that are green and eco friendly. Most importantly, we should be aiming for more "handy-dandy" solutions for buildings, making them easier for people working in them. Such buildings include the 7WTC with the water being used to cool the building and the elevator system that direct passengers to assigned cars.

And do I have to mention the height also poses a security risk? Those 3,000 ft.+ towers are probably on the top of a terrorist's wish list. That's why after 9/11, architects and engineers thought twice when designing a tall buildings and sorts. For now, Burj Khalifa's height at 2,717 ft. is the closest we (as the human race) ever got to 3,000. (But I hope that's not the last :)).

1. The whole WTC is LEED certified 1,2,3,4, and 7

2. There's no terrorists

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 21, 2011, 8:19 PM
CB from DC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb-from-dc/5856537823/in/photostream)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5856537823_71791de6ee_b.jpg

Fishman92
Jun 21, 2011, 8:24 PM
You mean this? According to an eyewitness the workers ran into problems fitting it, so they gave up. It's probably defective. Since this is a custom cut pane, they're going to have to order a replacement. They can't just grab any pane and install it instead. The hole will likely be there for a few weeks to a couple of months.
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/3830/wtc321c.jpg
By ZippyTheChimp @ WiredNY (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&p=365708&viewfull=1#post365708)

Well that too, but look on the live PA cam, and the row they're installing has about 5 or 6 panes missed out along the front.

JesseNewYorkCity
Jun 21, 2011, 9:24 PM
You mean this?
http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.micilloelectric.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/IMG_1907.26880756_std.jpg&sa=X&ei=e90ATvqxJ8Xl0QH0q8HODg&ved=0CAQQ8wc4JA&usg=AFQjCNFPkSOIuHbz8RKq0-KJnm544yMTNQ

Yep, those. Are they going to have them everywhere in the new WTC?

jd3189
Jun 21, 2011, 9:36 PM
What floor are they on now?

uaarkson
Jun 21, 2011, 9:37 PM
CB from DC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cb-from-dc/5856537823/in/photostream)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5856537823_71791de6ee_b.jpg

Why are 8 Spruce and 40 Wall so dark these days?

jd3189
Jun 21, 2011, 9:43 PM
Yep, those. Are they going to have them everywhere in the new WTC?

I saw a picture of the lobby with those,so yes,maybe they will be there,but I don't think everywhere.

animatedmartian
Jun 21, 2011, 10:39 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5030/5853610956_8ec1f602a2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53024120@N04/5853610956/)
in.formed (http://www.flickr.com/people/53024120@N04/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/5854619209_fcb98959c0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alltheparks/5854619209/)
BruceandLetty (http://www.flickr.com/people/alltheparks/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5302/5853332805_e489d56d06_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kalantziscope/5853332805/)
Phillip Kalantzis Cope (http://www.flickr.com/people/kalantziscope/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2536/5853876558_442cd799b5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kalantziscope/5853876558/)
Phillip Kalantzis Cope (http://www.flickr.com/people/kalantziscope/)

JesseNewYorkCity
Jun 21, 2011, 10:43 PM
I went down today to the WTC site and the building is very neat looking! I think they have about 34-33 floors to go.

I've been seeing lots of gay couples around here in NYC. I guess because it's gay pride month. Which I think is good because NYC gets lots of tourism money from it all and besides, I support equal rights anyways.


But BTW, I took some pics today and they are going to be up soon.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Jun 21, 2011, 10:58 PM
Hey if anyone wants to consider the Highrise vs. Lowrise discussion continue it at the thread I just made.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=5323801#post5323801

SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Jun 22, 2011, 12:32 AM
Well theres some news today


Port in talks on huge WTC retailing deal
Opens discussions with Westfield, which successfully ran retailing at original trade center; seeks plan for 360,000 square feet of shop and restaurant space that will be built.

In the last few weeks, the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey has started negotiations with The Westfield Group to try to finalize an agreement reached in 2008 to jointly develop the retail space at the World Trade Center site, sources close to the discussions said.
These sources said the Port wants to know by mid-fall if it can seal a deal with Westfield. That would give the agency enough time to either find another partner or move forward by itself in developing a plan for the approximately 360,000 square feet of retail space that will be initially built at the site. Roughly 200,000 square feet of that space is in the Calatrava transit hub, which is slated to open in 2014.
In 2008, the Port Authority and Westfield signed a letter of intent whereby the Port agreed to provide approximately $825 million toward the $1.45 billion project, with Westfield providing the other $625 million. However, that deal was based on projections of about 488,000 square feet of retail space. That total has shrunk, in part because there are no immediate plans to build one of Larry Silverstein's three towers.
These sources said the two parties were discussing various economic issues but declined to be specific. A spokesman for the Port Authority declined to comment, and a spokeswoman for Australia-based Westfield didn't return a call. Westfield has interests in and operates one of the world's largest shopping center portfolios valued in excess of $58 billion with 119 properties in Australia, New Zealand, the United States and the United Kingdom.
Real estate experts said it made sense for the Port to focus on the retail portion of the site now that commercial tenant interest in the buildings is growing. Last month, the Port signed a 1 million-square-foot deal with Cond´ Nast for 1 World Trade Center. Meanwhile, published reports said Swiss financial giant UBS was considering moving into one of Mr. Silverstein's towers.
Additionally, the Port doesn't want to lose any significant retail tenants to its neighbor across West Street, the World Financial Center. There, owner Brookfield Office Properties plans a $250 million renovation of the retail space, which is slated to begin in October and run through 2013.
Prior to Sept. 11, 2001, Westfield had net leased the World Trade Center retail components, one of the highest-grossing shopping areas in the nation, which consisted of 427,000 square feet. In December 2003, to accelerate the rebuilding at the World Trade Center site, the Port acquired the retail net lease from Westfield.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CN/20110621/REAL_ESTATE/110629965/AR/World-Trade-Center-site.jpg&q=100&MaxW=320&border=0
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CN/20110621/REAL_ESTATE/110629965/AR/World-Trade-Center-site.jpg&q=100&MaxW=320&border=0

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20110621/REAL_ESTATE/110629965


]WTC master planner takes top award[/B]
Eight years after his design was chosen to guide the rebuilding at Ground Zero and less than three months from the tenth anniversary of 9/11, Daniel Libeskind receives honor.

The author of the design road map for rebuilding the World Trade Center site will receive the highest honor bestowed by the New York chapter of the American Institute of Architects Tuesday evening.
Daniel Libeskind, who became an overnight celebrity in the city in 2003 when his proposal for the World Trade Center site, dubbed “Memory Foundations,” was chosen by officials to be the master plan for the rebuilding, will receive the 2011 Medal of Honor at the institute chapter's annual meeting at the Center for Architecture on LaGuardia Place offices.
“We have great respect for his work,” said Rick Bell, executive director of the chapter. “And that's not just because of what's happening at the World Trade Center Site.”
Mr. Libeskind, who has also worked on projects ranging from the Jewish Museum in Berlin to the Denver Art Museum, received his architectural degree from the Cooper Union in the East Village in 1970. He currently lives with his wife in lower Manhattan, where his firm Studio Daniel Libeskind is based at 2 Rector St.
"To receive an award from this talented and accomplished group of architects is a particularly meaningful honor for me," Mr. Libeskind said. "It is always a compliment to be recognized by your peers."
While Mr. Libeskind penned the initial plan for the entire site's rebuilding, the individual buildings have all been designed by others. However, the American Institute of Architects still feels his vision shines through.
“It may not look exactly like the renderings, but the spirit is exactly the same,” Mr. Bell said of the World Trade Center site design, praising the mixed-use development and the integration of public plazas and office space.
The AIANY, which was founded in 1857, is the oldest and largest chapter in the AIA, with more than 5,000 members ranging from practicing architects and other professionals, to students and members of the public interested in architecture and design.
Since 1917, the chapter has awarded is Medal of Honor to a member or firm for their “distinguished work and high professional standing.” Among the earlier recipients are David Childs, who designed 7 World Trade Center and the Time Warner Center, and Louis Skidmore, co-founder of the architecture firm Skidmore Owings and Merrill.
Along with Mr. Libeskind, the New York chapter will also present awards to other members of the architecture community, including Frank J. Sciame Jr., the chief executive of Manhattan-based Sciame Construction, and Frederic Schwartz, a renowned architect who recently designed the Staten Island Ferry Terminal.
“Here's our chance, after a bunch years, to provide an accolade to where we felt it has been deserved,” Mr. Bell said, adding that it was “excellent timing” that the award was being given to Mr. Libeskind in the same year as the tenth anniversary of 9/11. “It could have been conferred next year or last, the award would still be as relevant and deserved.”

jd3189
Jun 22, 2011, 1:21 AM
Nobody has answered my question. Which floor will they be on by the Fourth of July?

newhannibal
Jun 22, 2011, 3:38 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5072/5859043192_dc35a1f167_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5859043192/)
One World Trade Center June 2011 Progress Update (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5859043192/) by RBudhu (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanbudhu/), on Flickr

Fishman92
Jun 22, 2011, 9:39 AM
Nobody has answered my question. Which floor will they be on by the Fourth of July?

considering there's an elevation every two weeks (or somewhere around that), I'd go for floor 72.
I still haven't had my question answered. Why all the missing glass on the front?
http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

CoolCzech
Jun 22, 2011, 11:54 AM
Isn't there any other mall operator out there besides Westfield? The Westfield malls in Connecticut are all uniformly mediocre and rundown looking.

Kanto
Jun 22, 2011, 12:09 PM
Liebeskind getting a Medal of Honor? I think I'm gonna vomit :rant:

Danny
Jun 22, 2011, 12:13 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5072/5859043192_dc35a1f167_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5859043192/)
One World Trade Center June 2011 Progress Update (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/5859043192/) by RBudhu (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanbudhu/), on Flickr

Thank you very much for this wonderful photo, newhannibal!:previous:

Fantastic picture! WTC growing up, and up...

Congratulations and greetings from Madrid, Spain!:tup:

wong21fr
Jun 22, 2011, 4:09 PM
Liebeskind getting a Medal of Honor? I think I'm gonna vomit :rant:

Dude, it's not the Medal of Honor. It's an award from a professional organization.

Not that I would expect you to be able to differentiate the two....

uaarkson
Jun 22, 2011, 4:23 PM
Liebeskind getting a Medal of Honor? I think I'm gonna vomit :rant:

You can't be serious.

RockMont
Jun 22, 2011, 4:50 PM
Liebeskind getting a Medal of Honor? I think I'm gonna vomit :rant:




I thought he was ousted for Childs and Foster, or what ever their names are. Well at least that God Awful farce, of what appeared to be physically impossible structures to construct, was completely overidden, and rejected for what is going up now. How is this bastard getting credit, instead of the two names mentioned up above?

JSsocal
Jun 22, 2011, 5:05 PM
The plan is still his. He came up with the memorial/transit hub/office tower locations and is responsible for the interconnectedness of all of the towers. If you haven't noticed it follows similar massing as Libeskind's original plan, albeit the designs of the buildings have been completed by different architects.

Kanto
Jun 22, 2011, 5:07 PM
I thought he was ousted for Childs and Foster, or what ever their names are. Well at least that God Awful farce, of what appeared to be physically impossible structures to construct, was completely overidden, and rejected for what is going up now. How is this bastard getting credit, instead of the two names mentioned up above?

I completely agree with you. He has done nothing other than making a terrible memorial and even more terrible buildings. Luckily for the whole world, his buildings were rejected and instead beautifull buildings, made by other architects, are being built there. Dave Childs, Norm Foster and Roger Harbour should get a Medal of Honor because their buildings are true masterpieces. In my opinion Liebeskind is one of the worst architects in the world.

JSsocal
Jun 22, 2011, 5:12 PM
^^^Why do you think he's one of the worst, because he had plans for a 1000 ft freedom tower?, (topped by windmills). He's got some very good stuff IMO, and I'd still love for his One Madison Ave to be built, or his other condo project in L.A. If there's anyone to hate its Gene Kaufman.

RoldanTTLB
Jun 22, 2011, 5:24 PM
considering there's an elevation every two weeks (or somewhere around that), I'd go for floor 72.
I still haven't had my question answered. Why all the missing glass on the front?
http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

Do you mean the base, right above the base, or on the newest row of windows? If you mean the base, it's because it will have different glass from the rest. If you mean right above the base, it's so the rigging for putting the base up can be hung. If you mean on the newest row, it's just the order they're putting the panes in. They have not been going around the building in a perfect spiral by any means. It will all be filled in pretty soon.

colemonkee
Jun 22, 2011, 5:38 PM
To clarify, Libeskind is receiving the Medal of Honor from the American Institute of Architects (AIA), not the Medal of Honor awarded to members of the US Military by the president. There's a pretty major distinction there.

And no word yet on whether Libeskind's award will include a copy of Medal of Honor for Playstation or XBox.

UrbanImpressionist
Jun 22, 2011, 6:01 PM
Good for Libeskind. Well earned. Congrats to him!

His original plan was awesome. Cohesive, elegant, forward thinking ecologically and most importantly ...inspiring. It's just a shame that reality had to water down his vision so much.

* Kanto is stuck in the 70s :rolleyes:

urbanlife
Jun 22, 2011, 6:07 PM
To clarify, Libeskind is receiving the Medal of Honor from the American Institute of Architects (AIA), not the Medal of Honor awarded to members of the US Military by the president. There's a pretty major distinction there.

And no word yet on whether Libeskind's award will include a copy of Medal of Honor for Playstation or XBox.

:haha: This whole Medal of Honor confusion has been very entertaining to read. I am by no means a fan of Libeskind, but he is still the masterplan architect of the WTC. Also, he has done a number of museums and such that is what is probably getting him this award in the first place.

Matt
Jun 22, 2011, 10:14 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5106/5849869807_0c306387e7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richtmyer/5849869807/)
Richtmyer (http://www.flickr.com/people/richtmyer/)


Off topic, I know, but AGAIN I must profess my complete adoration for the WFC complex and how incredible the buildings are, and how they work so well together. Simply stunning. Goldman Sachs is also growing on me. Many people are right when they say the Jersey side will have the best view of lower Manhattan.

Roadcruiser1
Jun 22, 2011, 10:35 PM
Of course. He's in the same ranking as Minoru Yamasaki was when he built the original World Trade Center back in 1967-1973, and believe it or not even Minoru Yamasaki got a Medal of Honor from AIA back in that time too.

JesseNewYorkCity
Jun 22, 2011, 10:39 PM
Off topic, I know, but AGAIN I must profess my complete adoration for the WFC complex and how incredible the buildings are, and how they work so well together. Simply stunning. Goldman Sachs is also growing on me. Many people are right when they say the Jersey side will have the best view of lower Manhattan.



I COULDN'T AGREE MORE! Jersey City provides the best views of Lower Manhattan. You know what would be a dream? For them to put a observation deck at the very top of the Goldman Sachs Tower in Jersey City! I've always been curious what the top of the GST in Jersey looked like. I bet it's beautiful!

urbanlife
Jun 23, 2011, 2:33 AM
Off topic, I know, but AGAIN I must profess my complete adoration for the WFC complex and how incredible the buildings are, and how they work so well together. Simply stunning. Goldman Sachs is also growing on me. Many people are right when they say the Jersey side will have the best view of lower Manhattan.

Oh I agree, I have always felt the WFC and Battery Park would make for a great downtown in any city in this country, but in NYC it is nothing more than an addition to everything else going on in Manhattan.

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 23, 2011, 3:50 AM
Pita Plaka (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54967905@N07/)

A bit old but i'm sure it's not posted

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/5860524575_eb722d9aa1_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/5861077510_cd3d264edc_b.jpg

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 23, 2011, 3:52 AM
bugontherun (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60494043@N00/5861086133/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2752/5861086133_9a0f4ca053_b.jpg

THE BIG APPLE
Jun 23, 2011, 4:01 AM
Sylpherware (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sylpherware/5860494004/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5193/5860494004_05a815894e_b.jpg

sw5710
Jun 24, 2011, 7:35 AM
New steel. Now 883'8''

Fishman92
Jun 24, 2011, 12:47 PM
is every elevation 13' 4" or is it that PLUS 6', so 19'4" with splices?

CoolCzech
Jun 24, 2011, 1:30 PM
Do you mean the base, right above the base, or on the newest row of windows? If you mean the base, it's because it will have different glass from the rest. If you mean right above the base, it's so the rigging for putting the base up can be hung. If you mean on the newest row, it's just the order they're putting the panes in. They have not been going around the building in a perfect spiral by any means. It will all be filled in pretty soon.

Actually, last I heard the prismatic glass planned to sheath the base was scotched, because of insurmountable "technical difficulties" (i.e., I suspect it was too expensive). It's up in the air at the moment what the base will look like once finished.

Don098
Jun 24, 2011, 2:02 PM
:previous:Correct.

Fishman92
Jun 24, 2011, 2:31 PM
:previous:Correct.

Is that correct to me or to CoolCzech- because I am really confused at elevation heights of this tower. Is the 13' 4" per Floor?

Traynor
Jun 24, 2011, 3:29 PM
Actually, the manufacturer found the base's prism-cut glass became too brittle when scaled-up to the size of the panels WTC designers wished to use. It would crack or shatter when mounted, using the system to be employed.

Traynor
Jun 24, 2011, 3:32 PM
New steel. Now 883'8''

Well then...

Time to post the updated Lower Manhattan Checklist.


http://i.imgur.com/SaOib.jpg (http://imgur.com/SaOib)
(Compiled from images at the Diagrams Section, found here: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=8 )

pioli12
Jun 24, 2011, 4:41 PM
Holy shit it already passed Beekman?! That was unexpected. Judging from most of the pictures it looked like Beekman still had a good 100 feet on it.

Lecom
Jun 24, 2011, 6:24 PM
Thanks for the height chart update, Traynor.

I took these earlier this week

81mi3g9rQZs

PoP6zA-GDF4

jigglysquishy
Jun 24, 2011, 6:49 PM
The thing is a beast height wise. Most impressively, it isn't even halfway to its pinnacle height.

yankeesfan1000
Jun 24, 2011, 6:59 PM
Awesome videos Lecom, and thanks for the update Traynor. It's such a nice return to pre 911 NY normality to be able to see the WTC from all over Manhattan, this thing is going to be incredible.

steveve
Jun 24, 2011, 8:32 PM
considering it's topped the Beekman, does this mean 1WTC now has the highest roof in Lower Manhattan?

jd3189
Jun 24, 2011, 8:54 PM
Well then...

Time to post the updated Lower Manhattan Checklist.


http://i.imgur.com/SaOib.jpg (http://imgur.com/SaOib)
(Compiled from images at the Diagrams Section, found here: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=8 )

If it passed Beekman,doesn't that also make it automatically make it the tallest building in Lower Manhattan since the other two buildings taller are just that by a spire and that will be mean nothing by just adding 1/2 floors?

CGII
Jun 24, 2011, 8:59 PM
If it passed Beekman,doesn't that also make it automatically make it the tallest building in Lower Manhattan since the other two buildings taller are just that by a spire and that will be mean nothing by just adding 1/2 floors?

It's up to you. There is no universal method for height measurement.

Fishman92
Jun 24, 2011, 9:00 PM
You guys are al saying it's now taller, but where's the steel? And can someone answer my question about elevation height please?

sw5710
Jun 24, 2011, 10:07 PM
There have been no new pictures posted yet today of the steel on 70-72 but there was a 26'8'' column placed at the core on floor 70 yesterday.

Fishman92
Jun 24, 2011, 10:25 PM
There have been no new pictures posted yet today of the steel on 70-72 but there was a 26'8'' column placed at the core on floor 70 yesterday.

Ah, ok thanks for clearing that up.

sw5710
Jun 24, 2011, 11:08 PM
The 70th floor is 853' + 4' for the column splices. This jump is for floors 70-72. It is the 26th jump of 26'8'' or 696'8'' to date of office floors on the 187' base. Total = 883'8''

SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Jun 25, 2011, 5:25 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/5781526069_b3c4e17430_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/5781526069_b3c4e17430_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/5868531186_a76115be4d_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/5868531186_a76115be4d_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5035/5868534780_ccdd0d8806_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5035/5868534780_ccdd0d8806_b.jpg

uaarkson
Jun 25, 2011, 5:57 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/untitled-2.png

Wuzzat? (on the right)

JSsocal
Jun 25, 2011, 6:08 AM
^^Fulton Street Transit Center

Fishman92
Jun 25, 2011, 10:00 AM
just realised- as the floors get smaller as they go up, doesn't that mean each floor takes less time to put in?

hunser
Jun 25, 2011, 1:50 PM
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx


*The following information was last updated on June 24, 2011.

Facade installation is now above floor 38
Tower steel is now above floor 70
Concrete is now being installed
Spray-on fireproofing underway
Elevator shaft fit-out
Multiple cranes on site for steel and concrete installation
Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
"Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
Utility installation and tie-ins
Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Jun 25, 2011, 2:26 PM
just realised- as the floors get smaller as they go up, doesn't that mean each floor takes less time to put in?

yes, but in reality there not much less structural steel being used on the floors higher up. Also consider that the higher the tower goes the longer it takes to hoist materials to the top by crane. So really its not taking significantly less time to build these new floors.

hunser
Jun 25, 2011, 2:38 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5076/5868450775_7358518118_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nognats/5868450775/)
Freedom Tower from the Hudson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nognats/5868450775/) von Nick Stango (http://www.flickr.com/people/nognats/) auf Flickr

steveve
Jun 25, 2011, 3:30 PM
awesome night pic ^^^^
i never noticed that the edges/corners weren't illuminated at night, does anyone know if there will be lighting here to give the impression of light coming out at the corners?

Roadcruiser1
Jun 25, 2011, 4:04 PM
I don't think so. However the mast would shoot out a beam of light into the night sky.

JayPro
Jun 25, 2011, 4:08 PM
awesome night pic ^^^^
i never noticed that the edges/corners weren't illuminated at night, does anyone know if there will be lighting here to give the impression of light coming out at the corners?

If so, maybe it can be done with some kind of floodlighting...?
@Roadcruiser: Maybe not if the lighting source is controlled somehow.

The Grand Architect
Jun 25, 2011, 7:34 PM
A side by side comparison rendering diagram I made yesterday. I made it look more like a poster though.

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/36444/1484152.jpg

JesseNewYorkCity
Jun 26, 2011, 3:19 PM
I know this is irrelevant, but congrats to New York for passing the gay marriage bill! :)

I already read that some same-sex couples are planning to have a wedding atop of the new WTC!

QUEENSNYMAN
Jun 26, 2011, 4:40 PM
From: NYMAN2010

flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5873445680/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5872887173/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5873442408/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5872883907/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5873437688/in/photostream

QUEENSNYMAN
Jun 26, 2011, 6:56 PM
FROM: NYBOY75

YOUTUBE

http://www.youtube.com/user/NYBOY75?feature=mhee

Nice video of Lower Manhattan and shows shots of 1 World Trade Center as well as 4 World Trade poking into the skyline.

animatedmartian
Jun 26, 2011, 7:33 PM
:previous: Nice.

VinSchiano2009 (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5315/5871370389_782a440b23_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/5871873570_2fb5a9a94b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/5871878186_55dfcee9bb_b.jpg

Troubadour
Jun 26, 2011, 8:51 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/5871878186_55dfcee9bb_b.jpg

So...(gasp)...awesome. :banana:

The Grand Architect
Jun 26, 2011, 9:46 PM
Sweet photo, I could really see how tall the tower is going to be.

Say, I'm going to get my photoshop skills out of that closet and see what I can do with that picture.

Traynor
Jun 26, 2011, 10:47 PM
I kind of wouldn't mind if they ended up just cladding the base the same as the rest of the tower... Something like my quick render:

And before someone gets all nit-picky... I realize the base has ventilation requirements... I said "Something like" not exactly like.

http://i.imgur.com/5tm4n.jpg (http://imgur.com/5tm4n)
(Original image from Flickr here:ttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/...6115be4d_b.jpg posted by SkyscrapersOfNewYork in this thread found here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=5329243#post5329243 )

IntoTheLens827
Jun 27, 2011, 12:15 AM
From: NYMAN2010

flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5873445680/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5872887173/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5873442408/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5872883907/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/51949497@N08/5873437688/in/photostream

Nice Photos!:tup:

The Grand Architect
Jun 27, 2011, 1:25 AM
A little photoshop here, a little photoshop there, and you got a....

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/36444/1501467.jpg

Original photo by VinSchiano2009 (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/) that was posted by animatedmartian in the previous page.

Stu
Jun 27, 2011, 1:29 AM
Nice work.

upnotout
Jun 27, 2011, 2:39 AM
Does anybody know what the gold and black building in Lower Manhattan is? I've seen it in a bunch of pictures and always wondered.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/niklasmarc/5870283209/in/photostream/lightbox/

uaarkson
Jun 27, 2011, 2:45 AM
:previous: William Beaver House.

The Grand Architect
Jun 27, 2011, 3:05 AM
:previous: William Beaver House.

Dang it, you beat me :slob:

upnotout
Jun 27, 2011, 3:08 AM
It reminds me of the American Radiator Building from far away but looks absolutely nothing like it close up.

jsr
Jun 27, 2011, 3:24 AM
I kind of wouldn't mind if they ended up just cladding the base the same as the rest of the tower... Something like my quick render:

And before someone gets all nit-picky... I realize the base has ventilation requirements... I said "Something like" not exactly like.

I'd agree - if the base tapered inwards in harmony with the upper part of the structure. Since the base has a distinctly different taper, I'd prefer to see it also clad in a different fashion.

animatedmartian
Jun 27, 2011, 3:27 AM
A little photoshop here, a little photoshop there, and you got a....

[pic]

Original photo by VinSchiano2009 (http://www.flickr.com/people/vinschiano/) that was posted by animatedmartian in the previous page.

That's pretty awesome. :D

UrbanImpressionist
Jun 27, 2011, 3:57 AM
:previous: William Beaver House.

^ I never noticed that building before. What a cool blending concept; but the color selection of yellow was just 'turrible.' ...it looks like some gawd-awful draping they might do in Pittsburgh to celebrate a team championship.

Turquoise or silver instead would have made that look sweet!

Traynor
Jun 27, 2011, 3:57 AM
I'd agree - if the base tapered inwards in harmony with the upper part of the structure. Since the base has a distinctly different taper, I'd prefer to see it also clad in a different fashion.

No it doesn't.

The base is exactly the same shape as the first 13 floors of the office levels, only upside down.

???????????

:shrug:

jsr
Jun 27, 2011, 4:14 AM
No it doesn't.

The base is exactly the same shape as the first 13 floors of the office levels, only upside down.

???????????

:shrug:

Should have worded that differently, but yea the whole "upside down" arrangement distinguishes it from the rest and deserves a different facade treatment IMO.

Don098
Jun 27, 2011, 4:24 AM
I think that base cladding looks terrible. I'm really, really hoping for something as close to the prismatic glass as possible. I'm honestly more worried about the base of this building than the loss of the X-braces on tower 3...

animatedmartian
Jun 27, 2011, 5:44 AM
Another wide angle shot.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5107/5875434124_da203aba19_b.jpg
Alyssa Gonzales (http://www.flickr.com/people/completelyalyssamarie/)

I hope they get the base to as close as this as possible. I can't imagine it looking any different than the renderings. Or not having a similar effect. :yuck:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3517/3830042288_c17281b59a_b.jpg
si_peat (http://www.flickr.com/people/si_peat/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2659/4086994331_6ea873e64d_o.jpg
material guy (http://www.flickr.com/people/29319466@N08/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/5874624722_8826fa630c_b.jpg
the_bill (http://www.flickr.com/people/wjries/)

http://www.moskowarchitects.com/911.htm

kickser
Jun 27, 2011, 7:30 AM
is this an actual mock up of the lobbie's cladding?

animatedmartian
Jun 27, 2011, 8:48 AM
:previous:
It's a 9/11 memorial outside of Boston's Logan Airport.

hunser
Jun 27, 2011, 9:36 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5308/5870283209_e74cc27eda_b.jpg
NiklasMarc (http://www.flickr.com/photos/niklasmarc/)

Roadcruiser1
Jun 27, 2011, 3:29 PM
Look from the aerial picture you can clearly tell that One World Trade Center has surpassed the Beekman Tower in height. That proves anyone that doubts it wrong.

JesseNewYorkCity
Jun 27, 2011, 3:41 PM
Start spreading the news... I'm leaving today... I want to be a part of it! NEW YORK! NEW YORK!