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Zensteeldude
Sep 2, 2009, 11:15 PM
That's a good question. I was a bit uneasy about the south crane's jump into the steel cage, such a thin structure meant to hold up the world's most safest tower.

It doesn't look like they're wasting any time with the steel cage over the north core. I see the steel they delivered being put together right now.

It only looks thin and once it's encased in concrete it well bear little or no weight.

One of the tower cranes fully loaded (load + crane + tower) is less than 150 tons. The core steel is designed to support several thousand tons before the cement of the core encases it.

meh_cd
Sep 2, 2009, 11:26 PM
It only looks thin and once it's encased in concrete it well bear little or no weight.

One of the tower cranes fully loaded (load + crane + tower) is less than 150 tons. The core steel is designed to support several thousand tons before the cement of the core encases it.

Does this mean that they are going to extend the steel cage further above the concrete, or that it will keep pace as the concrete is poured?

NYguy
Sep 2, 2009, 11:35 PM
Here's a question to the NY forumers in the know: does the City have to inspect the crane after a jump, or can they commence with work right away?

It was my understanding that the City inspectors were there when it jumped, but I'm not sure.

Here's yet another cam shot (730 pm)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116828203/original.jpg


And another update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/3881429387/sizes/l/) (sept 2) where you can see the SE corner really begin to take shape.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/3881429387_86947def79_b.jpg


The "memorial view"...from Lucia Zapatero (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41954479@N04/3879584188/sizes/l/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2490/3879584188_42006de402_b.jpg

Zensteeldude
Sep 3, 2009, 12:19 AM
Does this mean that they are going to extend the steel cage further above the concrete, or that it will keep pace as the concrete is poured?

There is a limit as to how high the erecting steel can go before being encased. I'm pritty sure the south core steel has not gone higher due in part to being at that limit.

theWatusi
Sep 3, 2009, 12:24 AM
Will the erecting steel be a part of the core all the way up, or will they transition to rebar at some point?

Zensteeldude
Sep 3, 2009, 1:18 AM
All the way up.

theWatusi
Sep 3, 2009, 1:26 AM
seems like a little overkill, don't you think?

RoldanTTLB
Sep 3, 2009, 1:35 AM
Speaking over overkill, I have a short set of photos I'll be posting in a few, so hold on to your hats!

Hey steel!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8peZd6gVI/AAAAAAAADSU/6P5ax-xTHu4/s800/DSC02139.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8pkObRRiI/AAAAAAAADSY/IBKBvY_iwIo/s800/DSC02140.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8ppi5tvQI/AAAAAAAADSc/qMC94QaMskQ/s800/DSC02141.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8pvk6yG1I/AAAAAAAADSg/_LLcOqBKn9E/s800/DSC02142.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8p2rmTBFI/AAAAAAAADSo/zCM3nNPrsv4/s800/DSC02143.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8qBCO7k6I/AAAAAAAADSw/3Nkk1UOPKMY/s800/DSC02145.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8qGGK9kuI/AAAAAAAADS0/Q5k3xUZ2mrQ/s800/DSC02146.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8qKqKf8fI/AAAAAAAADS4/Ff7mbBcW4gM/s800/DSC02147.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8qP7oGynI/AAAAAAAADS8/zcjUSRDkukk/s800/DSC02148.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8qUtMeuWI/AAAAAAAADTA/CRnF0Oqq3QI/s800/DSC02149.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3T08TVQ0h2g/Sp8qaqVvBZI/AAAAAAAADTE/hRbnxSGnDjY/s800/DSC02150.JPG

Acer1
Sep 3, 2009, 2:48 AM
Are they welding the beams right now? 10:45pm. Lots of purple lights around the beams. Strange time to do it. SE corner.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7080/capturemlz.jpg

meh_cd
Sep 3, 2009, 3:46 AM
Perhaps. I know when I stayed at the Millennium in July they welded at night on other parts of the site.

HarshLiving
Sep 3, 2009, 6:55 AM
It's coming along, good to se this finally start becoming a reality.

Plokoon11
Sep 3, 2009, 10:00 AM
WOW~ Now thats the kind of speed that is awesome!

NYguy
Sep 3, 2009, 2:17 PM
In the rendering of the lobby with the huge blast wall, there are sharp rectanglular stripes of white light along the upper half of the blast wall. Where is this light coming from? The wall is solid, right?

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/20070802freedomlobby.jpg

I think the concept of the Freedom Tower lobby is very similar to that of 7 WTC...

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/2_41_LOBBY.jpg
wtc.com



There are also two more of Calatrava's arches on the Fulton Street roadbed. Are they for the East-West connector?

Now in place....

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116844735/original.jpg

wong21fr
Sep 3, 2009, 2:38 PM
seems like a little overkill, don't you think?

This project is all about overkill. To say that it will have a solid core is understating it by bounds.

rich_200
Sep 3, 2009, 4:04 PM
After the North Core jump they are putting the beams really fast. And on this picture we can also see the final four east-west connectors in the green circle.

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss305/richpr88/wtc.jpg

theWatusi
Sep 3, 2009, 4:19 PM
Maybe by next week we'll see some more columns going up.

BStyles
Sep 3, 2009, 4:57 PM
Wow, I never expected them to put up the steel cage this fast. We could see another north crane jump by the end of september or later, depending on the weather, columns going in at around the same time, and another jump by october. By this rate, we could be seeing the floor-a-week schedule into effect by this year! :notacrook:

wong21fr
Sep 3, 2009, 6:05 PM
How tall are each of the perimeter columns? I'm going to guess that another level of the perimeter needs to go up before the base is considered complete, that it has reached its 200 ft height. Then the transistion to the floor a week mode can go into effect.

theWatusi
Sep 3, 2009, 6:08 PM
How tall are each of the perimeter columns? I'm going to guess that another level of the perimeter needs to go up before the base is considered complete, that it has reached its 200 ft height. Then the transistion to the floor a week mode can go into effect.


More than another level to go for the base.


:previous: And here is what has been put up so far....

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8271/wtc1.jpg

wong21fr
Sep 3, 2009, 6:11 PM
^Oh, two more then..... damn that base is huge.

theWatusi
Sep 3, 2009, 6:13 PM
damn that base is huge.

that's what she said :cool:

37TimPPG
Sep 3, 2009, 7:40 PM
This is just so incredibly awesome to watch. I have always enjoyed watching skyscrapers being constructed. The historical significance of this building just makes it all the more enjoyable.

Dac150
Sep 3, 2009, 8:13 PM
I love how the mood of this thread has changed from ‘what’s taking so long?’ to ‘Wow, look at all the progress’. As I’ve said all along, you just have to be patient.

It’s coming along excellent.

37TimPPG
Sep 3, 2009, 8:56 PM
I love how the mood of this thread has changed from ‘what’s taking so long?’ to ‘Wow, look at all the progress’. As I’ve said all along, you just have to be patient.

It’s coming along excellent.

Well said:tup:

uakoops
Sep 3, 2009, 9:26 PM
I think the concept of the Freedom Tower lobby is very similar to that of 7 WTC...

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/2_41_LOBBY.jpg
wtc.com


Except that WTC1 has the reception desk and security behind the blast wall, not out in the open like WTC7.

Wheelingman04
Sep 3, 2009, 9:28 PM
I just don't understand why they won't build two of them just to make up for the old WTC and just cancel WTC 3?

That would make up a lot of the difference. Of course 2 and 3 will probably be built many years down the road unless the banks start lending more money soon. The economy should recover well in 2010, but will banks start lending large sums yet? Who knows. Screw it and build WTC 1 twice and let the work on 4 continue and that's it. Ohter towers are going up in the area anyway. Downtown is so hot nowadays! It's my favorite part of town. Less tourists and just more chilled out, except for WTC with all of those tourists. Damn I miss the old WTC plaza. Hardly any tourists just a nice place to sit and look up at those beauties. Now it just has to be a friggin icon. I wish we could just go back to Sept.10th and stop time and the terrorists. Being in those towers just 2 months before the collapse really has had a huge impact on me. I think about it everyday. I really wished they would have just built the towers the same way again (obviously with structural changes and up to the new code requirements).

Rub it in those psycho terrorist's face.:hell: It would have been much easier and cheaper to build than just a whole new design etc.:rolleyes:

RockMont
Sep 3, 2009, 9:48 PM
I just don't understand why they won't build two of them just to make up for the old WTC and just cancel WTC 3?

Now that would just make too much sense.



Rub it in those psycho terrorist's face.:hell: It would have been much easier and cheaper to build than just a whole new design etc.:rolleyes:

That has been my point all along. Take it and slam it right back into their face!

Zensteeldude
Sep 3, 2009, 10:17 PM
How tall are each of the perimeter columns? I'm going to guess that another level of the perimeter needs to go up before the base is considered complete, that it has reached its 200 ft height. Then the transistion to the floor a week mode can go into effect.

The wise ass answer to your first question is 1,368 feet.

Let's see, ground floor to 20th floor is 186 feet 8 inches, minus the 10 feet of the previous lift above the ground floor slab and the 70 feet of the current lift = 106 feet 8 inches. Looks like two more lifts to the 20th floor where things get more normal and therefore faster.

This is all based on the fact that so far at least one and in some cases two lifts have been eliminated from the columns because of the fact that a 400 ton crawler crane was brought in to do the erecting.
Had the original plan been followed and the tower cranes done all the erecting the column sections would have been limited to about 45 tons each, roughly the capacity of both tower cranes combined at a 100 foot radius.

Acer1
Sep 3, 2009, 10:34 PM
I love how the mood of this thread has changed from ‘what’s taking so long?’ to ‘Wow, look at all the progress’. As I’ve said all along, you just have to be patient.

It’s coming along excellent.

I disagree a little. Some progress has been made but it's going to grind to a halt soon because of the west plaza still uncompleted by a large amount. If only the area with green rebar was poured with concrete than I don't think that would be enough to create a platform for the other mobile crawler crane. The street next to it might need to be done as well. If so, one more corner of beams and the inner north core steel will be it for quite a while. Not sure how they would get all the outer beams done by October without that plaza done.

It is refreshing after what seemed like an entire year of concrete & rebar that some more steel is going up. It seems the only thing we see as progress is steel installed on the building and not all the great work creating the crazy reinforced base of this building. Folks, no other building in the world is built like this. It's a modern age fortress.

Dac150
Sep 3, 2009, 10:50 PM
For the most part people here seem to respond better to vertical progress, yet disregard infrastructure and ground level work a real progress. Now that vertical progress is being made the tide of opinions for the most part is transforming into a more positive one. That’s what I am pointing out.

I on the other hand, along with others, have pointed out the importance and criticality of infrastructure and ground level work in relation to the complex as a whole. However the general population here insisted that that was not considered ‘real’ progress.

All in all patience is key, and rush isn’t necessary.

Zensteeldude
Sep 3, 2009, 11:03 PM
Ya really can't blame them, they want to see a tower. Never mind that that tower sits on top of several key elements of lower Manhattan's infrastructure.

As for being a modern age fortress, no, not really. Yes there are some very visible parts that make it seem to be a fortress but much of what has been built so far is due to 2 major changes in the NYC building code. Force 5 hurricanes and 5.0 or greater earthquakes.

I'm not daft, that concrete core is due to 9/11 as are the blast walls and slabs. First drawings I ever saw for an office building with blast ratings on the prints.

Dirty Sandpit
Sep 3, 2009, 11:04 PM
I think it's more that the groundwork and infrastructure is harder to see and realize than the vertical construction. It's not that we don't appreciate the groundwork... etc, it's more that because we're not phyiscally there we cannot appreciate as much.

Dac150
Sep 3, 2009, 11:09 PM
I’ve been face to face with the inner workings of this complex that are underway and I will say that it’ll change anyone’s perspective on the amount of progress that has been made. The amount of complexity and execution of building such an infrastructure makes for an amazing site. It’ll make you appreciate and respect what goes into building such a complex to a whole new level. That is why I get tired of hearing those who criticize the amount of work that has been done. The reality is more than you’ll ever know if you haven’t experienced it up close.

Zensteeldude
Sep 3, 2009, 11:15 PM
You tell em Dac150 !

QuarterMileSidewalk
Sep 4, 2009, 1:52 AM
^Hear, hear!

The infrastructure / foundations work at the WTC site is nothing short of astonishing, considering everything going in there. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, beneath the old towers and plaza, weren't there about seven floors of mall, parking, supertall tower foundations, PATH and MTA lines and stations, spread across sixteen city blocks, held together by the slurry wall?

Now, not only did they first have to dig out all of that, plus 220 floors worth of steel and furniture and pulverized concrete, but they're going to rebuild it, with a memorial museum instead of a mall, and four supertall towers instead of two! :eek:

No more whining about the timeline? Cool by me. [/rant]

KevinFromTexas
Sep 4, 2009, 4:21 AM
I love how the mood of this thread has changed from ‘what’s taking so long?’ to ‘Wow, look at all the progress’. As I’ve said all along, you just have to be patient.

It’s coming along excellent.

Skyscrapers always take a long time to get out of the ground. Excavation and foundation work takes forever, but once that's done, watch out! I'd say about a third of the construction time is spent on that aspect. Because nothing is rising during that time, it seems to take forever and it doesn't appear that much is getting done, when infact, of course, it is.

NYguy
Sep 4, 2009, 4:49 AM
Maybe by next week we'll see some more columns going up.

We should. All of the columns should be up within a month or so, in keeping with the Port Authority schedule.


Mondmann (http://www.flickr.com/photos/81533006@N00/3886164332/sizes/o/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2468/3886164332_b410ebae1b_o.jpg

NYguy
Sep 4, 2009, 4:56 AM
^Oh, two more then..... damn that base is huge.

The Freedom Tower base will be huge, but actually pretty small when compared to the other planned WTC towers.



I just don't understand why they won't build two of them just to make up for the old WTC and just cancel WTC 3?


If this is a reference to just bulding two FT's, then this is not the thread for it. But beyond that, it's not as simple as just building two, because then you would have just more than half of the WTC space rebuilt.

Aleks
Sep 4, 2009, 9:37 AM
God NYGuy! Where do you find these pictures? That's such an amazing shot! I love the way Beekman looks compared to the rest of the skyscrapers. Such a classy shape and looks like the quality is top notch.

Too bad in a couple years it won't be visible from this angle. Or good thing, depending on how you feel about the WTC.

Dac150
Sep 4, 2009, 1:41 PM
Skyscrapers always take a long time to get out of the ground. Excavation and foundation work takes forever, but once that's done, watch out! I'd say about a third of the construction time is spent on that aspect. Because nothing is rising during that time, it seems to take forever and it doesn't appear that much is getting done, when infact, of course, it is.

And that’s exactly the name of the game. You can’t have one without the other. I for one am very pleased that much time and consideration is being spent into the infrastructure and foundations.

Part of enjoying the rise of skyscrapers is embracing and taking in all aspects that come with them. So I recommend for those who haven’t to really recognize the importance of what has ‘taken so long’.

NYguy
Sep 4, 2009, 2:11 PM
God NYGuy! Where do you find these pictures? That's such an amazing shot! I love the way Beekman looks compared to the rest of the skyscrapers. Such a classy shape and looks like the quality is top notch.

Too bad in a couple years it won't be visible from this angle. Or good thing, depending on how you feel about the WTC.


I've found most of those shots on flickr.com. There are constantly people at the WTC site taking photos (including myself and others on the forum), so it's interesting to see what other people get. In some angles, you will be able to look up towards the top. I think the people who view the site from the WFC will also be amazed by the Beekman once the cladding reaches the top. That is such an iconic skyscraper. It proves that iconic doesn't always mean tallest.

JACKinBeantown
Sep 4, 2009, 4:07 PM
God NYGuy! Where do you find these pictures? That's such an amazing shot! I love the way Beekman looks compared to the rest of the skyscrapers. Such a classy shape and looks like the quality is top notch.

Too bad in a couple years it won't be visible from this angle. Or good thing, depending on how you feel about the WTC.

Actually, it will be visible from roughly that angle because the Calatrava transit station won't block it.

BStyles
Sep 4, 2009, 6:44 PM
Another good thing is that Tower 2 has that ''wedge of light'' feature, so that should help in viewing Beekman from the Winter Garden.

J.M.
Sep 4, 2009, 6:51 PM
Holy POOP!, I left for like 3 or 4 days and all this progress happens!, this is epic! I should leave more often! :jester:

NYguy
Sep 4, 2009, 11:38 PM
Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/3886946935/sizes/l/) (Sep 4)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3525/3886946935_3e556fec10_b.jpg

NYguy
Sep 4, 2009, 11:50 PM
outoforder2day (http://www.flickr.com/photos/outoforder2day/sets/72157622114997723/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3467/3886576211_37f632eeae_b.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3518/3886574951_0ce64664d2_b.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3887373952_1a79570a63_b.jpg

Wheelingman04
Sep 5, 2009, 5:06 AM
Damn that core is rising fast now!

Kram
Sep 5, 2009, 6:10 AM
The core looks so large in comparison to the building foot print. Does anyone know what the ratio of core to gross sq.ft. is at the lower levels?:rolleyes:

tdurden5573
Sep 5, 2009, 3:49 PM
Was in NY 2 years ago, I cant believe the progress since then. Although Im not a huge fan of the final designn, you argue that it will be something unique and help physically and emotionally heal a wound. Thx for the updates.

Zapatan
Sep 5, 2009, 5:45 PM
Here's a cool view. I like this building a lot, definitely better than the old designs, but the tapering gets to me, I actually wish this building was just a box, like the old WTC. :frog:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/490042969_c6093616e5_o.jpg

Puzzlecraft
Sep 5, 2009, 8:11 PM
I was away for most of the week, lot of nice things happened, I see. FWIW, I did post a picture of the Queen City Square building under construction on a Cincinnati forum.

Anyway, when the south crane jumped, it took 41 days for the core steel to start. From the time of the north crane jump, steel within one day! So things are really moving now!

After there were two levels of south core steel, there was a pause for a couple weeks before the next two levels went up. Already two levels of core steel are well in progress for the north core. Since the top of the first two levels is flush with the tops of the outer columns, perhaps the columns can go up before the next two levels of north core steel go up.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 5, 2009, 9:36 PM
Zapatan, the picture there shows the base without the tapered corners towards the bottom; I'm glad that the base does taper in at the bottom or it would be seriously ugly, a jail-like block.

Zensteeldude
Sep 5, 2009, 10:09 PM
Yea, I was just gona say the base is all wrong. The base is gona be covered in glass so it well look nothing like the base of #7. Also the east entrance is too narrow, and the entrance canopies are glass, just like #7.

All things considered it does look better than my Google Sketchup rendering, but mine is perfect in it's details. (After all, I do have the prints)

Puzzlecraft
Sep 6, 2009, 1:17 AM
A question I've been meaning to ask.

On page 275 of this thread, the first picture by BStyles copied here, what's with the short walls of rebar in the west plaza area? They seem too short to be walls - what's this space going to be used for?

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SDC10580.jpg

Zensteeldude
Sep 6, 2009, 1:29 AM
Those are not walls, they are beams. Concrete beams, the largest (GB20) is over 8 feet deep by 17 feet wide.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35124796@N04/3256117585/in/set-72157613376736607/

Puzzlecraft
Sep 6, 2009, 1:57 AM
Wow.

Zapatan
Sep 6, 2009, 9:01 PM
Well I certainly must say that I had no idea that there was already mock up glass of Tower 1, looking at this just made me like this building 5 times more. :yes:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/09/nyregion/09freedom-650.jpg

uaarkson
Sep 6, 2009, 10:06 PM
That is extremely good looking glass.

J_M_Tungsten
Sep 6, 2009, 10:11 PM
It almost looks like the upper floor section of the Chicago Spire if it kept twisting :)

Puzzlecraft
Sep 6, 2009, 11:45 PM
Cool picture taken yesterday of the SW corner, posted on the Wired board. Shows how big this building really is.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2533/3892287823_a674045d4f_o.jpg

Puzzlecraft
Sep 6, 2009, 11:47 PM
Meant SE corner.

ardecila
Sep 7, 2009, 1:04 AM
Damn, son. This is starting to resemble one of those giants going up in China.

This is the biggest steel-framed building to go up in the States since the Sears Tower, which it will (obviously) surpass, and they're starting from the ground up with MASSIVE steel.

dugdogmaster
Sep 7, 2009, 3:21 AM
Wowzers!:eek:

Wheelingman04
Sep 7, 2009, 5:35 AM
Will it rise quickly from here on out or is the core finished yet?

uaarkson
Sep 7, 2009, 5:46 AM
The core goes all the way to the top of the building...so it's not even close to being finished.

The tower is supposed to rise at a floor-per-week rate once the base is completed.

2-TOWERS
Sep 7, 2009, 2:59 PM
Damn, son. This is starting to resemble one of those giants going up in China.

This is the biggest steel-framed building to go up in the States since the Sears Tower, which it will (obviously) surpass, and they're starting from the ground up with MASSIVE steel.
ACTUALLY THIS WILL BE THE BIGGEST SINCE ITS REPLACEMENT

NYguy
Sep 7, 2009, 5:20 PM
The tower is supposed to rise at a floor-per-week rate once the base is completed.

Right, and the columns that are being placed now are roughly a third of the total base height. So we won't really start seeing the office floors built until then.


SEPTEMBER 6, 2009

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116976962/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116976962/original.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116976976/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116976986/original.jpg

4. Since these colums have gone up, we really are looking into the lobby...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116976996/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977006/large.jpg

6.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977041/large.jpg

7.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977086/large.jpg

8.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977107/large.jpg

9.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977126/large.jpg

10.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977153/large.jpg

11.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977191/large.jpg

12.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977236/large.jpg

13. New icons rising...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977251/large.jpg

14.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977360/large.jpg

15.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977420/large.jpg

16. This will be the western plaza, or the entrance most of us will use...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977447/large.jpg

17.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977501/large.jpg

18. Awaiting more steel on Vesey Street...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977573/large.jpg

19.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977661/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977707/large.jpg

21. Finally something for the public to appreciate...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977721/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116982885/large.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116982920/large.jpg


24. Truth in advertising...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977730/large.jpg

25.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977745/large.jpg

theWatusi
Sep 7, 2009, 5:25 PM
awesome update :yes:

meh_cd
Sep 7, 2009, 6:06 PM
Fantastic shots. Thanks, NYguy.

Wheelingman04
Sep 7, 2009, 6:21 PM
The core goes all the way to the top of the building...so it's not even close to being finished.

The tower is supposed to rise at a floor-per-week rate once the base is completed.

OK, I know the core goes to the top of course, but I just ment the core at the base of the building. Sorry, I worded it wrong.

Is there a timeframe for when the base will be complete?

2-TOWERS
Sep 7, 2009, 8:49 PM
great, fantastic shots NY GUY.. you have really kept us up to date on this.. you should get the key to the city... :tup:

Acer1
Sep 7, 2009, 9:54 PM
Thanks for the photo's nyguy.

Looks like they're starting work on the next floor on the inside portion of the Vesey St side of the building. A lot more rebar than I expected to be there. Earthcam shot is just too far out to see the cables on the big beams or rebar in those photos. Had no clue.

I still think the western plaza is going to take forever to prepare for a pour. Why is it done in a grid-like pattern? With what's there, is that enough after a pour to hold a crane on top of it? I mean, that's why I can't imagine all the steel going up within a month. How is that going to happen?

BStyles
Sep 8, 2009, 12:20 AM
Well, when they finished pouring the Vesey portion of the eastern plaza, it was pretty much shaped like this one. The holes are just for trees, they put steel girders over the tree wells to make a flat surface, and then the crane comes in. With rebar, concrete is pretty much unbreakable. They also stopped working for the holiday weekend, and have to dig into West Street to place the plaza, stairs, etc.

@Wheelingman04: The floor-a week schedule, seeing how fast they put up the steel cage around the north crane, should commence by either December or early next year. This is going to make some sick aerial photos.:yes:

Wheelingman04
Sep 8, 2009, 2:25 AM
^ Thanks. That's awesome.:tup:

NYguy
Sep 8, 2009, 1:23 PM
great, fantastic shots NY GUY.. you have really kept us up to date on this.. you should get the key to the city... :tup:

LOL...get Bloomberg on the line. Yeah, things are really looking great now and this is only just the beginning.

uaarkson
Sep 8, 2009, 3:18 PM
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/116977730/large.jpg

I looked at the rendering on the fence, then pictured those huge corner columns taking up a tiny little dot at the bottom of the tower; that's when I realized how fucking HUGE this building will be.

Dirty Sandpit
Sep 8, 2009, 9:31 PM
So has the two cores met up yet? or is the north core still shorter than the south? That base btw is one giant leviathan of a base. Awesome. Now if we can get the other 3 corners built this thing will look like some kind of building.

BStyles
Sep 9, 2009, 2:37 AM
Well the concrete section of the cores have met, finally making them unified as ''the core'', but the steel cage section is short about two levels, still hanging on to that north/south thing. They had this momentary pause with the south core for a while, probably for welding and/or other site preparation. More steel will arrive in a few weeks, if not shorter.

Notice how the rendering on the fence is taken at such an angle that it points to the tower itself.:tup:

Zapatan
Sep 9, 2009, 3:00 AM
I looked at the rendering on the fence, then pictured those huge corner columns taking up a tiny little dot at the bottom of the tower; that's when I realized how fucking HUGE this building will be.



Well yea it's gonna be huge, just think of one of the old towers, just gradually getting thinner at the top. :)

The main skyline impact will be more or less to the top of the broadcasting Ring, or about 1,400 feet. It's basically sears tower size with a much thicker spire. This building is a monster.

CHAPINM1
Sep 9, 2009, 5:23 AM
Well yea it's gonna be huge, just think of one of the old towers, just gradually getting thinner at the top. :)

The main skyline impact will be more or less to the top of the broadcasting Ring, or about 1,400 feet. It's basically sears tower size with a much thicker spire. This building is a monster.

Excellent observation!!! For the record I'm NOT getting into the whole old VS new, but the new WTC Tower 1's broadcasting ring at the top below the spire will give this tower a greater impact in the skyline than the other tower 1 did even though it may be by only 32 feet (1,400 - 1,368). :D It's exciting that the bulk of this building will continue to break past 1,400 feet!

ESB fanatic
Sep 9, 2009, 6:09 AM
I'm planning on going to NYC in July next year, about how high can I expect the building to be at that point?

theWatusi
Sep 9, 2009, 11:25 AM
Another column on site this morning :cool:

Puzzlecraft
Sep 9, 2009, 1:20 PM
Excellent. The NE corner begins. Looks like one of vertical column. Big Red is currently positioned to place the new outer column on the other side of the east side entrance.

NYguy
Sep 9, 2009, 1:33 PM
the new WTC Tower 1's broadcasting ring at the top below the spire will give this tower a greater impact in the skyline than the other tower 1

Assuming there will still be a broadcasting ring. There are still questions about the top of the tower that have yet to be answered.


morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/3900853616/sizes/l/) (Sept 8)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3453/3900853616_bf140eace7_b.jpg

Puzzlecraft
Sep 9, 2009, 1:51 PM
Earthcam stuck again. Looks like the column is going on the north side looking at the Rebuild cam.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 9, 2009, 2:04 PM
Big pour going on the memorial plaza, just in time for the 9-11 remembrance gathering. Nice that WTC1 rising will provide an excellent backdrop.

wong21fr
Sep 9, 2009, 7:43 PM
The first NE column is up. Plus they've pre-positioned a number of the safety catwalks by Big Red. Looks like a number of columns will be going up in the next few days.

Zapatan
Sep 9, 2009, 8:56 PM
Assuming there will still be a broadcasting ring. There are still questions about the top of the tower that have yet to be answered.




Like what?

Would they even go as far as to redesign the tower part? That would be my dreak come true, I can't stand the tapering. :sly:

Stu
Sep 9, 2009, 9:23 PM
Like what?

Would they even go as far as to redesign the tower part? That would be my dreak come true, I can't stand the tapering. :sly:

No. He's talking about everything above the roof. As far as we know, the designs for w/e is above the roof are not finalized, or at least, have not been released.

Puzzlecraft
Sep 9, 2009, 10:43 PM
wong21fr - You're right about those catwalks being a good leading indicator for new columns. The one that went up with today's new column appeared yesterday.

NYguy
Sep 10, 2009, 1:20 AM
The first NE column is up. Looks like a number of columns will be going up in the next few days.

That's great. They put up the SE corner in one week, so maybe they'll complete the NE corner in a week. Four corners, four weeks. Sounds good.

Here's a cam shot from earlier today...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117087133/original.jpg

theWatusi
Sep 10, 2009, 1:53 AM
Is the West plaza close to being ready for concrete?

Acer1
Sep 10, 2009, 3:34 AM
Is the West plaza close to being ready for concrete?

I would say no, but that's just a guess out of all the unfinished area's of rebar that still need to be built up. Could be wrong though and they could do that part in sections I suppose. Not sure how.

theWatusi
Sep 10, 2009, 11:00 AM
another column today

NYguy
Sep 10, 2009, 12:35 PM
another column today

Yep...cam shot from around 8:30

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117101046/original.jpg

BStyles
Sep 10, 2009, 2:24 PM
Alright! The tower is back on it's column-a-day schedule!:notacrook:

NYguy
Sep 10, 2009, 2:34 PM
Wonder if they'll be actively working tomorrow. Here's a shot from a couple of minutes ago:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117103684/original.jpg

37TimPPG
Sep 10, 2009, 3:45 PM
Wonder if they'll be actively working tomorrow. Here's a shot from a couple of minutes ago:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117103684/original.jpg

I was wondering the same thing.

bkraig4life
Sep 10, 2009, 4:02 PM
Are those tarps up on the southeast corner to weld the joints where the columns were joined? Just wondered, I think they were bolted together at first, but I was wondering why they are covered now?

HyperPower
Sep 10, 2009, 4:42 PM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/02/19/nyregion/ward.190.jpg

Eight years in, everybody give a warm hand to Chris Ward,..lol!