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marshall
Feb 24, 2012, 7:55 PM
I love your "what's to come" for 1wtc as well Carlos! We are getting so close, let's hope the wind dies down soon! :cool:

Yankee fan for life
Feb 24, 2012, 8:18 PM
Carlos i don't know about your progress pic looks a little off according to oties diagrams could be your pic has a different angle.

NYguy
Feb 24, 2012, 8:56 PM
PMs, free for everyone, so use'em.



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THE BIG APPLE
Feb 24, 2012, 9:03 PM
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First two are Old but WORTHWHILE

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NYguy
Feb 24, 2012, 9:11 PM
Check the slideshow here for a year's worth of progress...
http://tribecatrib.com/



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THE BIG APPLE
Feb 24, 2012, 9:30 PM
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alan88
Feb 24, 2012, 10:05 PM
It was over 50 MPH at noon on upper floors already

alan88
Feb 24, 2012, 10:10 PM
Keep an eye on tower tonight if the rain clears

alan

February 24, 2012

For Immediate Release
Carol Danko, 202-225-3371
Rep. Grimm Applauds PANYNJ’s Decision to Light One WTC in Red for Cardinal Dolan

PA steps up to honor a hometown hero, after Empire State Building denies the request

NEW YORK, NY – Today, Rep. Michael G. Grimm (R,C-S.I./Brooklyn) applauded the decision of the Port Authority’s Executive Director Patrick Foye to light One World Trade Center in red to honor the elevation of Archbishop Dolan to cardinal. After Rep. Grimm’s request to light up the Empire State Building - which is traditionally lit to honor various causes and individuals - was denied yesterday by the building’s Lighting Partner Committee, the congressman made a similar request to the Port Authority. The Port Authority has agreed to light One World Trade Center – at no cost to the agency - beginning tonight, February 24th, for one week.

“Giving up is not in my DNA. Where there is a will there is a way, and One WTC is even more appropriate as a symbol of hope, courage and the bright future of New York, all of which Cardinal Dolan exemplifies,” said Grimm. “I applaud the Port Authority’s decision to step up and honor our hometown hero by lighting One Word Trade Center in cardinal red. This illumination will not just serve as a celebration of Cardinal Dolan, but of all our city’s heroes. It is an opportunity for all of us to honor the lives and bravery of those we lost, and to show our pride for a local leader who has given so much to the people of New York with his faith and charity.”

Upon its completion, One World Trade Center will become the tallest building in New York City, standing at 1,776 feet. It will have a public observation deck on the 100th and 101st floors for all to enjoy the view of city. The building’s construction has been moving at a pace of about a floor a week, and the steel construction has been completed to the 92nd floor as of today.



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SoaringSkylines
Feb 24, 2012, 10:35 PM
I'm thrilled at this progress! Does anyone know the precise month the "topping out" of the roof will take place?

SoaringSkylines
Feb 24, 2012, 10:37 PM
It was over 50 MPH at noon on upper floors already

Is it colder up at the top than it is on the ground?

alan88
Feb 24, 2012, 10:47 PM
Yes,

It is around 3.5 degrees cooler at 1000 ft elevation than at ground level. It is something called the lapse rate by weather folks. So you can get ice formation on tops of supper talls when it is 35f at street level

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 24, 2012, 11:28 PM
Looks like 1WTC doing things that the ESB doesn't want to. Many people have asked if 1WTC will be lit like the ESB. I think the article semi-clearly answers the question.

PANYNJ Cam

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 24, 2012, 11:32 PM
It was over 50 MPH at noon on upper floors already

Forecast changed, we're now up for 60 mph in NYC, NJ, and up North :tup:

CarlosV
Feb 24, 2012, 11:40 PM
Lonely at the top!


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uaarkson
Feb 24, 2012, 11:53 PM
Wow!

marshall
Feb 25, 2012, 12:43 AM
When its finished, 1wtc will probably be lit in regular lighting on all the main floors, and the top part including the spire might be lit in a special ways to show it off, or to mark certain holidays, maybe in tandem with the ESB lighting. Certainly that spire is going to be a major beacon

Chapelo
Feb 25, 2012, 1:03 AM
It's so red!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l123/oberonwatchman/wtc-red.jpg

SoaringSkylines
Feb 25, 2012, 1:10 AM
WOW! Does anyone know why the World Trade Center is red!?

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 25, 2012, 1:17 AM
^ Because (someone) a man named Timothy Dolan has become a cardinal.

pnapp1
Feb 25, 2012, 1:37 AM
Here is another.

http://www.wtcphotos.com/photos/wtc1_2012-02-24_p1.jpg
Image via Earthcam

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 25, 2012, 1:42 AM
WOW! Does anyone know why the World Trade Center is red!?

Look at previous posts first..:tup:

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 25, 2012, 1:43 AM
Technically this beacon will be the highest visible source of a building in the entire world, since the exact "visible" light will be approximately 3,087 feet, hundreds of feet over the Burj Khalifa

marshall
Feb 25, 2012, 2:05 AM
Technically this beacon will be the highest visible source of a building in the entire world, since the exact "visible" light will be approximately 3,087 feet, hundreds of feet over the Burj Khalifa

You always have the coolest pieces of info NewYorkSkyline117. Thanx! :cool::tup:

Otie
Feb 25, 2012, 2:34 AM
Earthcam Liberty Cam
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg585/scaled.php?server=585&filename=skylinea.jpg&res=medium

uaarkson
Feb 25, 2012, 2:47 AM
Closer.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/yeah_uh_wow.png

CarlosV
Feb 25, 2012, 3:23 AM
Long live the Cardinal!!!!!! LOL

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uaarkson
Feb 25, 2012, 3:25 AM
I wish I could see it in person. It must be breathtaking.

PZelda
Feb 25, 2012, 3:43 AM
WOW!!!!!! That's way more red than the red/white/blue they did at 1 WTC for 9/11 when I was there in September. That's gorgeous!

Fluffybagel
Feb 25, 2012, 3:58 AM
WOW! Does anyone know why the World Trade Center is red!?

Alan's post says it all...:haha:

1Boston
Feb 25, 2012, 4:17 AM
That's my favorite lighting so far. It's way more red than i expected. I would think it would take wicked long to get all the lighting done but it seems like it was pretty quick.

WTCman7301
Feb 25, 2012, 5:53 AM
WOW! Does anyone know why the World Trade Center is red!?

I think this will help:

Keep an eye on tower tonight if the rain clears

alan

February 24, 2012

For Immediate Release
Carol Danko, 202-225-3371
Rep. Grimm Applauds PANYNJ’s Decision to Light One WTC in Red for Cardinal Dolan

PA steps up to honor a hometown hero, after Empire State Building denies the request

NEW YORK, NY – Today, Rep. Michael G. Grimm (R,C-S.I./Brooklyn) applauded the decision of the Port Authority’s Executive Director Patrick Foye to light One World Trade Center in red to honor the elevation of Archbishop Dolan to cardinal. After Rep. Grimm’s request to light up the Empire State Building - which is traditionally lit to honor various causes and individuals - was denied yesterday by the building’s Lighting Partner Committee, the congressman made a similar request to the Port Authority. The Port Authority has agreed to light One World Trade Center – at no cost to the agency - beginning tonight, February 24th, for one week.

“Giving up is not in my DNA. Where there is a will there is a way, and One WTC is even more appropriate as a symbol of hope, courage and the bright future of New York, all of which Cardinal Dolan exemplifies,” said Grimm. “I applaud the Port Authority’s decision to step up and honor our hometown hero by lighting One Word Trade Center in cardinal red. This illumination will not just serve as a celebration of Cardinal Dolan, but of all our city’s heroes. It is an opportunity for all of us to honor the lives and bravery of those we lost, and to show our pride for a local leader who has given so much to the people of New York with his faith and charity.”

Upon its completion, One World Trade Center will become the tallest building in New York City, standing at 1,776 feet. It will have a public observation deck on the 100th and 101st floors for all to enjoy the view of city. The building’s construction has been moving at a pace of about a floor a week, and the steel construction has been completed to the 92nd floor as of today.

gramsjdg
Feb 25, 2012, 7:42 AM
Technically this beacon will be the highest visible source of a building in the entire world, since the exact "visible" light will be approximately 3,087 feet, hundreds of feet over the Burj Khalifa

I thought that from the latest renders by NYguy, the beam was horizontal.:shrug:

CarlosV
Feb 25, 2012, 9:56 AM
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Fishman92
Feb 25, 2012, 12:43 PM
I thought that from the latest renders by NYguy, the beam was horizontal.:shrug:

How many times does this need to be said : It's vertical. It shines Upwards. That's how people are going to see it from miles away.

CarlosV
Feb 25, 2012, 1:08 PM
:worship:



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cityenthusiast
Feb 25, 2012, 4:09 PM
I can see all obstacles in my way

1Boston
Feb 25, 2012, 4:22 PM
Wow its so windy today, is it windy in NY today?

DrNest
Feb 25, 2012, 4:29 PM
Technically this beacon will be the highest visible source of a building in the entire world, since the exact "visible" light will be approximately 3,087 feet, hundreds of feet over the Burj Khalifa

How is that figure calculated?

hunser
Feb 25, 2012, 5:28 PM
How is that figure calculated?

1787' (beginning of beacon structure, add a couple of feet for the top) + 1300' = 3087'. Although I'm not sure where the 1300 figure comes from... :shrug:

sw5710
Feb 25, 2012, 6:33 PM
Technically this beacon will be the highest visible source of a building in the entire world, since the exact "visible" light will be approximately 3,087 feet, hundreds of feet over the Burj Khalifa

3,087' to the top of the visible beam you see? The light beam on top of the luxor in Vegas its a solid beam for several miles above the hotel. That has been the brightest most visible light for 19 years. 1 WTC 93rd floor or 1,216' splices included.

alan88
Feb 25, 2012, 7:20 PM
It will be horizontal, wait till 2013, always the design by claude engel the speciality lighting firm and you will see it & it will now be LED not xenon bulbs, there are other things in the works, but that is for another day.

Alan

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 25, 2012, 7:23 PM
1787' (beginning of beacon structure, add a couple of feet for the top) + 1300' = 3087'. Although I'm not sure where the 1300 figure comes from... :shrug:

3,087' to the top of the visible beam you see? The light beam on top of the luxor in Vegas its a solid beam for several miles above the hotel. That has been the brightest most visible light for 19 years. 1 WTC 93rd floor or 1,216' splices included.

It will be horizontal, wait till 2013, always the design by claude engel the speciality lighting firm and you will see it & it will now be LED not xenon bulbs, there are other things in the works, but that is for another day.

Alan

I just used the extra feet from the elevation. Alan, are you sure it's going to be horizontal..? Wouldn't that interfere with airplanes, and stuff? Horizontal makes no sense...

alan88
Feb 25, 2012, 7:37 PM
I just used the extra feet from the elevation. Alan, are you sure it's going to be horizontal..? Wouldn't that interfere with airplanes, and stuff? Horizontal makes no sense...

I can check again Monday, I was at the presentations by lightening designer, It has been coordinated with FAA. They were very concerned if it was ever going to be a laser.

CarlosV
Feb 25, 2012, 7:42 PM
Wow its so windy today, is it windy in NY today?

yes!!! very much...i had to take all my plants indoors!


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2-TOWERS
Feb 25, 2012, 8:33 PM
[QUOTE=CarlosV;5605121]yes!!! very much...i had to take all my plants indoors!
Another Post Card Pic Carlos !!!!!!!!! :cheers:

marshall
Feb 25, 2012, 8:50 PM
I hope this doesn't come off to many of you skyscraper experts as a dumb question, and I am sure it has been asked before, but hopefully you can enlighten a novice such as myself..:) Just curious, exactly what type of structure is 1wtc? I know the old twin towers were tubular, and their strength came from the outside columns which acted as bracers, like a stick of celery. The old towers got most of their strength from the outside columns, and did not have many interior columns so as to free up more office space..1WTC looks to have an-all glass facade. Does it have a rigid steel skeleton as well on the exterior? I know it has strong interior concrete reinforced columns and beams? I heard somewhere that 1wtc's exterior facade is merely superficial, that it gets its strength from the interior, unlike in the old twin towers. Is this more akin to older skyscrapers like the ESB? Thanks.

lake of the nations
Feb 25, 2012, 8:53 PM
I just used the extra feet from the elevation. Alan, are you sure it's going to be horizontal..? Wouldn't that interfere with airplanes, and stuff? Horizontal makes no sense...

Place Ville-Marie has four rotating horizontal beams and is closer to an airport than Lower Manhattan.

http://a34.idata.over-blog.com/600x450/3/38/61/10/Canada/Montreal-Nuit-blanche1.JPG

CarlosV
Feb 25, 2012, 8:58 PM
^^^

:hi:

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I hope this doesn't come off to many of you skyscraper experts as a dumb question, and I am sure it has been asked before, but hopefully you can enlighten a novice such as myself..:) Just curious, exactly what type of structure is 1wtc? I know the old twin towers were tubular, and their strength came from the outside columns which acted as bracers, like a stick of celery. The old towers got most of their strength from the outside columns, and did not have many interior columns so as to free up more office space..1WTC looks to have an-all glass facade. Does it have a rigid steel skeleton as well on the exterior? I know it has strong interior concrete reinforced columns and beams? I heard somewhere that 1wtc's exterior facade is merely superficial, that it gets its strength from the interior, unlike in the old twin towers. Is this more akin to older skyscrapers like the ESB? Thanks.

what do you think??

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DrNest
Feb 25, 2012, 9:38 PM
1787' (beginning of beacon structure, add a couple of feet for the top) + 1300' = 3087'. Although I'm not sure where the 1300 figure comes from... :shrug:

So am I correct in interpreting what you're saying as the top of the light will extend 3087' above the ground? If elevation is included in that figure (as alluded to by NewYorkSkyline117 then surely every building in Denver, let alone other mountainous regions of the Earth will be higher?

Plus, like was mentioned previously, the beam from the Luxor in Las Vegas reaches far higher into the sky.

jd3189
Feb 25, 2012, 9:42 PM
:previous: Let's hope those beams on 1WTC go as high as the ones they used for the Tribute in Light every 9/11 anniversary. How high did those go anyway?

CarlosV
Feb 25, 2012, 10:21 PM
still very windy, and low tide...i can see the mud/dirt around the piers for the first time!!!!

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NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 25, 2012, 10:44 PM
:previous: Let's hope those beams on 1WTC go as high as the ones they used for the Tribute in Light every 9/11 anniversary. How high did those go anyway?

Thousands of feet..people we're seeing them as far as Trenton to Philadelphia

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 25, 2012, 10:45 PM
I can check again Monday, I was at the presentations by lightening designer, It has been coordinated with FAA. They were very concerned if it was ever going to be a laser.

Alright thanks. Ugh horiztonal beam looks like a lighthouse..vertical gives it a more connection the heavens

Roadcruiser1
Feb 25, 2012, 10:59 PM
I hope this doesn't come off to many of you skyscraper experts as a dumb question, and I am sure it has been asked before, but hopefully you can enlighten a novice such as myself..:) Just curious, exactly what type of structure is 1wtc? I know the old twin towers were tubular, and their strength came from the outside columns which acted as bracers, like a stick of celery. The old towers got most of their strength from the outside columns, and did not have many interior columns so as to free up more office space..1WTC looks to have an-all glass facade. Does it have a rigid steel skeleton as well on the exterior? I know it has strong interior concrete reinforced columns and beams? I heard somewhere that 1wtc's exterior facade is merely superficial, that it gets its strength from the interior, unlike in the old twin towers. Is this more akin to older skyscrapers like the ESB? Thanks.

One World Trade Center uses a tube structure like the Twin Towers before it. How this works is there is a central core made of steel which contains the elevators and the stairs which is then bounded to the outer walls made out of steel by the floors, and floor trusses. This makes a building that is very resilient and won't really sway easily in the wind, and no the building get's it's strength from all it's major components, but the core and the fireproofing is much stronger than the one in the Twin Towers.

No. Old skyscrapers like the Empire State Building used a different technique in which there were columns at roughly every 30 feet square. This was a problem to many architects and engineers because if there is space you wanted to rent there are columns blocking the way. Leslie Robertson AKA the man that engineered the Twin Towers came up with the tube concept during the construction of the World Trade Center. Today his concept is used in skyscrapers throughout the world.

This video should explain it.

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Davidsam52
Feb 25, 2012, 10:59 PM
Closer.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Uaarkson/yeah_uh_wow.png

So, nothing against the Cardinal; I think it looks neat in all red....but especially now since they did this I still can't believe that they didn't make the building all "Big Blue" for the Superbowl Champs!!::shrug::shrug::shrug:

CarlosV
Feb 25, 2012, 11:05 PM
^^^

the "Cardinal Red" special lighting will be on display for a full week!!!! :)

it is on right now!


Roadcruiser1 amazing video link..thanks

marshall
Feb 26, 2012, 12:27 AM
[QUOTE=Roadcruiser1;5605365]One World Trade Center uses a tube structure like the Twin Towers before it. How this works is there is a central core made of steel which contains the elevators and the stairs which is then bounded to the outer walls made out of steel by the floors, and floor trusses. This makes a building that is very resilient and won't really sway easily in the wind, and no the building get's it's strength from all it's major components, but the core and the fireproofing is much stronger than the one in the Twin Towers.

No. Old skyscrapers like the Empire State Building used a different technique in which there were columns at roughly every 30 feet square. This was a problem to many architects and engineers because if there is space you wanted to rent there are columns blocking the way. Leslie Robertson AKA the man that engineered the Twin Towers came up with the tube concept during the construction of the World Trade Center. Today his concept is used in skyscrapers throughout the world.

This video should explain it.


Thanks Roadcruiser, very informative. So basically 1wtc is built exactly like the twin towers were, with tube structure, perimeter columns, and hat trusses? Only it is being built much stronger than the twins?

Roadcruiser1
Feb 26, 2012, 12:32 AM
Thanks Roadcruiser, very informative. So basically 1wtc is built exactly like the twin towers were, with tube structure, perimeter columns, and hat trusses? Only it is being built much stronger than the twins?

Yes, but I don't think a hat truss is being used.

marshall
Feb 26, 2012, 1:03 AM
So I guess that means the structure will be rigid enough already that it won't need a hat truss to keep it from swaying too much in strong winds.

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 26, 2012, 1:07 AM
^ Yeah and along with the aerodynamics of the building, it's supposed to 'confuse' the wind.

Roadcruiser1
Feb 26, 2012, 1:32 AM
Roadcruiser1 Amazing video link..thanks

No problem :tup:.

Roadcruiser1
Feb 26, 2012, 1:35 AM
One more thing I didn't mention Leslie Robertson is now the engineer for Four World Trade Center. So even though his Twins were knocked down he is building up again. :tup:

NYguy
Feb 26, 2012, 2:46 AM
I thought that from the latest renders by NYguy, the beam was horizontal.:shrug:

It will be capable of the horizontal light shows as well as vertical. It won't simply be a "lighting" as is currently done with the ESB spire. BTW, the original WTC had a horizontal light show as well in the early 90's.


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/140858125/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/141731957/large.jpg



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Jonathan Zurick (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abroadjz/6930152121/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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Servo
Feb 26, 2012, 4:27 AM
Those trees have an eerie effect...

Chapelo
Feb 26, 2012, 4:36 AM
BTW, the original WTC had a horizontal light show as well in the early 90's.


You mean this one?

http://www.laserist.org/Laserist/WTC_ScienceFaction_bi.jpg

Originally found here: http://www.laserist.org/

Dense_Electric
Feb 26, 2012, 4:43 AM
If the perimeter steel were, hypothetically, removed, would the structural element of the core be capable of supporting the building by itself? I thought I read that somewhere, but I don't know if that's true.

Roadcruiser1
Feb 26, 2012, 4:44 AM
You mean this one?

http://www.laserist.org/Laserist/WTC_ScienceFaction_bi.jpg

Originally found here: http://www.laserist.org/

Wow. I didn't remember them looking like this at night when I was young. It must have been amazing.

Kevin Scott Koepke
Feb 26, 2012, 4:59 AM
Definitely going to take some shots of One World Trade this week.
That looks pretty cool...:banger::righton::awesome::thrasher:

THE BIG APPLE
Feb 26, 2012, 5:34 AM
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Otie
Feb 26, 2012, 5:47 AM
If the perimeter steel were, hypothetically, removed, would the structural element of the core be capable of supporting the building by itself? I thought I read that somewhere, but I don't know if that's true.

First off, unlike the twins, the perimeter structure deals with the wind load while the core takes the vast majority of the gravity load.
This building can witstand the loss of as much as 2 columns on each side, the perimeter structure is designed to transfer the gravity load to alternate columns.

CarlosV
Feb 26, 2012, 11:35 AM
not much visible change since last week....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6785014646_658ec77558_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6785014646/)
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sterlippo1
Feb 26, 2012, 12:47 PM
absolutely phenomenal pic above with the BB and skyline :worship:

NYguy
Feb 26, 2012, 1:03 PM
You mean this one?

http://www.laserist.org/Laserist/WTC_ScienceFaction_bi.jpg

Originally found here: http://www.laserist.org/

Wow, I hadn't seen that in years. Good find. I'm not sure how long that went on, but I remember being able to see it all the way in Harlem. It's not hard to imagine something like that at the Freedom Tower.



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NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 26, 2012, 6:24 PM
^^^^^Those pictures are gorgeous. Does anyone know how long the tower will be red for?

CarlosV
Feb 26, 2012, 6:26 PM
LOL you are not reading every post!!! I said ONE WEEK!

PZelda
Feb 26, 2012, 6:59 PM
Oh MAN. This really really really makes me wish I was visiting right now. Amazing. I wish I had been able to make it out that way over the holidays... I imagine the multi-colored lights made 1 WTC simply stunning at night. *envious*

marshall
Feb 26, 2012, 8:17 PM
First off, unlike the twins, the perimeter structure deals with the vertical load (winds) while the core takes the vast majority of the gravity load.
This building can witstand the loss of as much as 2 columns on each side, the perimeter structure is designed to transfer the gravity load to alternate columns.


So basically the twins' perimeter columns dealt with the bulk of the strength, and 1wtc uses perimeter and core columns for strength?

N830MH
Feb 26, 2012, 9:12 PM
Wow, I hadn't seen that in years. Good find. I'm not sure how long that went on, but I remember being able to see it all the way in Harlem. It's not hard to imagine something like that at the Freedom Tower.



sdseidel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdseidel/6929920001/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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Wow! Looking so good!! Keep'em it coming!!! I need more pictures right way!!!

Dac150
Feb 26, 2012, 9:34 PM
^^^ Was it really necessary to quote all those pictures when they're originally posted a mere few posts up? :rolleyes:

Roadcruiser1
Feb 26, 2012, 9:43 PM
So basically the twins' perimeter columns dealt with the bulk of the strength, and 1wtc uses perimeter and core columns for strength?

If you checked the video I showed you a page ago the core and the perimeter columns both are responsible for giving the building strength. Half of the weight of a skyscraper comes from the perimeter columns which hold the building up while the other half or the core of the skyscraper keeps the building down. This is how a skyscraper works. But to put the whole thing together floor trusses are used to put the thing together. That is how they are building all skyscrapers these days.

bunky
Feb 26, 2012, 10:51 PM
Tonight's sunset. Another gorgeous day in Nyc.

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Yankee fan for life
Feb 26, 2012, 11:05 PM
Brooklyn nets arena is really coming together .

Davidsam52
Feb 26, 2012, 11:55 PM
Brooklyn nets arena is really coming together .

Ah ha I was gonna ask what arena is that....so the Nets are moving back to New York.....cool!:cool:

marshall
Feb 27, 2012, 12:42 AM
Hopefully the wind is dying down and they can start making some major steel progress again soon! Onward and upward! :cool:

jd3189
Feb 27, 2012, 12:47 AM
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Epic. By the time most of the under constructions and proposed buildings are done with some added in between in Manhattan and around in NJ and the outer boroughs, we'll be seeing a very continuous skyline that will just be the next stage of arguably one of the largest collections of skyscrapers on the face of the earth.( And damn, that sentence was as long as this)

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 27, 2012, 1:25 AM
LOL you are not reading every post!!! I said ONE WEEK!

I know but one week from when? :shrug:

^^^ Was it really necessary to quote all those pictures when they're originally posted a mere few posts up? :rolleyes:

I knoww that's what I said a few pages back.....someone posts like 500 pictures just to requote one, make 8 new pages, and comment on just one of the 500 photos :hell:

NewYorkDominates
Feb 27, 2012, 1:29 AM
^^^Would be amazing if they fill the gap,but than again New Yorkers consider it culturally important and have nothing agains it as I'm a Nashvillian,but it would be amazing.Maybe 50 years from now when the buildings start to fail,than maybe construction of 300 meter buildings would begin to rise.

jd3189
Feb 27, 2012, 1:57 AM
:previous: I know,but there are a good number of empty lots in those areas. I don't want condos in the West Village or Lower East Side messing up the historical districts,but I do like clusters of skyscrapers developing to bring back life to the deserted areas.

Roadcruiser1
Feb 27, 2012, 2:04 AM
I know but one week from when? :shrug:
One week beginning yesterday night. The final date would be 3/2.

Roadcruiser1
Feb 27, 2012, 2:06 AM
^^^Would be amazing if they fill the gap,but than again New Yorkers consider it culturally important and have nothing agains it as I'm a Nashvillian,but it would be amazing.Maybe 50 years from now when the buildings start to fail,than maybe construction of 300 meter buildings would begin to rise.

:previous: I know,but there are a good number of empty lots in those areas. I don't want condos in the West Village or Lower East Side messing up the historical districts,but I do like clusters of skyscrapers developing to bring back life to the deserted areas.

I don't think it would happen in Manhattan much anymore. The next wave of skyscraper development would probably be in Brooklyn. 10 or 20 years from now Brooklyn would have a tall enough skyline to compete with Manhattan.

Rizzo
Feb 27, 2012, 2:10 AM
Tonight's sunset. Another gorgeous day in Nyc.

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These are the kind of NYC photos I love. City as far as the eye can see.

aquablue
Feb 27, 2012, 2:32 AM
Yes, the telephoto lens can do wonderful things. Just looks like one big city, when we know there is a river there.

NewYorkSkyline117
Feb 27, 2012, 3:26 AM
One week beginning yesterday night. The final date would be 3/2.

Thanks!

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Feb 27, 2012, 5:36 AM
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N830MH
Feb 27, 2012, 6:33 AM
Tonight's sunset. Another gorgeous day in Nyc.

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twmcginley
Feb 27, 2012, 7:32 AM
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Feb 27, 2012, 3:13 PM
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CarlosV
Feb 27, 2012, 3:42 PM
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CarlosV
Feb 27, 2012, 11:14 PM
:offtopic: :gaah:


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uaarkson
Feb 27, 2012, 11:18 PM
Is it really that red out or did you use a filter?