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OneWorldTradeCenter
Mar 2, 2010, 2:51 PM
For all interested guys:

On wtcprogress.com everyone is invited to ask questions. The PA offers it this week. Everyone might ask questions about the tower. :)

xnyr
Mar 2, 2010, 4:06 PM
I know thiis is OT, so if someone would direct me to the correct thread, I'd appreciate it.

Does anyone know what this area of the plaza is for?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4401673382_74bb1b7af8_m.jpg

For quite a while it was an open pit, then they built plywood decking (unlike the steel in-place forms used elsewhere in the plaza) for the concrete that's being poured today?

37TimPPG
Mar 2, 2010, 5:17 PM
I certainly enjoy reading updates about 1WTCand the site on here. It is a virtual beehive of activity - almost like the World's largest LEGO set :)

1ajs
Mar 2, 2010, 6:39 PM
I know thiis is OT, so if someone would direct me to the correct thread, I'd appreciate it.

Does anyone know what this area of the plaza is for?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4401673382_74bb1b7af8_m.jpg

For quite a while it was an open pit, then they built plywood decking (unlike the steel in-place forms used elsewhere in the plaza) for the concrete that's being poured today?

either its to do with the subway station of its some sorta sistrin/sump pit??

BStyles
Mar 2, 2010, 7:28 PM
That hole left open in the memorial was for the chiller plant below, loading supplies and pouring concrete to form the walls of the structure. The concrete walls will help support the ceiling that they are forming now, in other words, they are done and are sealing it off. The plywood is just to hold the concrete up until it dries.

By the way I forgot my input....OMG IT'S FINALLY DONE!!!

They also finished decking for floor 20 at 1WTC this afternoon.

NYCLuver
Mar 3, 2010, 12:58 AM
March 2nd, 2010

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_1013.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_1014.jpg

NYguy
Mar 3, 2010, 2:02 AM
Drumroll as we await the next rise in steel...

sw5710
Mar 3, 2010, 2:55 AM
I wonder if the VERTICAL STEEL BEAMS from this point on will be 2 floors at a time 26.8'.

NYguy
Mar 3, 2010, 12:57 PM
Zensteeldude would have the answers to that one.

kenratboy
Mar 3, 2010, 6:04 PM
Is this the point where the tricky base level is done, and now we will see a more-simple and fast-rising structure?

cpaul
Mar 3, 2010, 6:08 PM
I believe so, but I'll defer to someone that actually knows what they are talking about.

ESB fanatic
Mar 3, 2010, 6:59 PM
You guys really know your stuff. I love the updates. I'll be going to NYC July 22-26, how high should it be by then?

car2004
Mar 3, 2010, 7:19 PM
March 2nd, 2010

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_1013.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_1014.jpg

Wait, that is 20 floors?

Continental180
Mar 3, 2010, 8:35 PM
Wait, that is 20 floors?

yeah. due to the lobby and high ceilings for mechanical floors, it is. And plus, it may not look like it in pictures. but in person, its huge.

stormkingfan
Mar 3, 2010, 10:35 PM
This is going to be one strong building. I was just looking at the arrangement of the girders and braces.

stormkingfan
Mar 3, 2010, 10:40 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/jayxdi.jpg


Now, THAT is beautiful!!

PhxPavilion
Mar 4, 2010, 12:42 AM
Wow more than 1.3 million views and 7819 replies.

As far as floor count goes, I count only 92 actual levels from the lobby to the roof according to the renderings. The first page also lists no floors from 7-19 or 94-99. From the image below it looks like there are only 3 or 4 sub-levels as well.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/64463214/large.jpg

So how again is this 104 floors?

NYguy
Mar 4, 2010, 3:05 AM
So how again is this 104 floors?

People, please read the thread if you're going to post. There were many detailed accountings of the way the floor count works. We are not going to repeat this on every page, that's the reason I put the floor count on the first page.

PhxPavilion
Mar 4, 2010, 5:24 AM
People, please read the thread if you're going to post. There were many detailed accountings of the way the floor count works. We are not going to repeat this on every page, that's the reason I put the floor count on the first page.

I understand that they're counting tall floors as multiple levels (don't really agree with that). Even still, I'm not sure how they get 20 floors out of a 186' high base, especially at 14' per normal office floor so they must be skipping numbers for no real reason.

NYguy
Mar 4, 2010, 5:51 AM
I'm not sure how they get 20 floors out of a 186' high base, especially at 14' per normal office floor so they must be skipping numbers for no real reason.

It is what it is.

NYguy
Mar 4, 2010, 12:00 PM
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/03/classic_nyc_construction_paint.html

Classic N.Y.C. construction painting is loaned to World Trade Center project

http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/eyvind-earle-paintingjpg-3d4da0cfcc778bc5.jpg

By The Star-Ledger
March 02, 2010

When the World Trade Center is rebuilt, the family of one of America’s most famous poets will commemorate the city’s resurgence with the indefinite loan of an artwork that once dominated the poet’s New Jersey home: a 1943 painting of New York City under construction by Eyvind Earle, a painter and printmaker who was the nephew of William Carlos Williams.

The 13-foot-tall painting, “View Under the Bridge,” hung on a landing of the main staircase in the Williams home in Rutherford until 1995. The newly restored picture is accessible in an inner foyer of the Port Authority engineering building at 225 Park Ave. South in Manhattan until the Trade Center building is completed, at which point it will be transferred to the lobby of the new building.

MadGnome
Mar 4, 2010, 12:27 PM
I understand that they're counting tall floors as multiple levels (don't really agree with that). Even still, I'm not sure how they get 20 floors out of a 186' high base, especially at 14' per normal office floor so they must be skipping numbers for no real reason.

Start from the lowest point, about 70' below ground level at 13'4".

hunser
Mar 4, 2010, 7:37 PM
this is the view we are going to have once the observation deck is open. of course, beekman tower will also be visible.

SnapShot1951 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16332375@N08/4407056064/)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4407056064_f497c745c8_o.jpg

can't wait!

JBoston
Mar 4, 2010, 8:50 PM
I can see my house!

Zensteeldude
Mar 4, 2010, 11:03 PM
I wonder if the VERTICAL STEEL BEAMS from this point on will be 2 floors at a time 26.8'.

The columns should be 26' 8" all the way up. That hight works well, not to high so they are easy to transport and erect, and not too short. ( too short would cost more in labor)

That hight also works well when buying the material, 30' lengths are standard. If they were to go 3 floors, 41 feet or 4 floors, 54 feet 4 inches they would waste material, 40', 50' and 60' are standard lengths.


You guys really know your stuff. I love the updates. I'll be going to NYC July 22-26, how high should it be by then?

I'm putting $10 in the pool for Floor 26.


Wait, that is 20 floors?

It's not 20 actual floors, it's the rough hight equivalent.

Zensteeldude
Mar 4, 2010, 11:15 PM
I understand that they're counting tall floors as multiple levels (don't really agree with that). Even still, I'm not sure how they get 20 floors out of a 186' high base, especially at 14' per normal office floor so they must be skipping numbers for no real reason.

Again, they have to let the elevator guys know so they can make the buttons !!!!

The building is 1,368 feet high, right, say I call one floor 10 feet. Then the tower has 136.8 floors.

If I take the actual floor hight 13' 4" then I get 102.6 floors.

The floor number is just that, a number. It has no deep mystical meaning it's just a label, a number on an elevator button.

PS: There are 92 actual floors (not counting mechanical mezzanines) and 5 sub-grade levels. Ya can't see the B1 level in that rendering because the B2 level is double hight in that area.

Zensteeldude
Mar 4, 2010, 11:23 PM
I can see my house!

All I see is 3 contracts where I was not the lowest bidder.:)

NYguy
Mar 5, 2010, 12:23 AM
I'm putting $10 in the pool for Floor 26.

That's more than four months from now. I hope they've done more than 6 floors by then....:whip:

I'm putting in at the low 30's...(optimisticly)

Zensteeldude
Mar 5, 2010, 12:29 AM
I'm betting that they well get faster as they get higher, smaller floor plate and all that, but they well start out slower.:)

The North One
Mar 5, 2010, 1:26 AM
Call me when the facade on this building starts coming up.:skyscraper:

Zensteeldude
Mar 5, 2010, 1:54 AM
We well call you in 6 months, but you well be missing some cool stuff. I dare to say the most interesting stuff. The guts, or soul of the Tower.

The curtain wall is just the prom dress, I wana see the body !!!!!!

CoolCzech
Mar 5, 2010, 2:01 AM
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/03/classic_nyc_construction_paint.html

Classic N.Y.C. construction painting is loaned to World Trade Center project

http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/eyvind-earle-paintingjpg-3d4da0cfcc778bc5.jpg

By The Star-Ledger
March 02, 2010

Is that guy standing in the way of the cart supposed to personify the Port Authority?

evanmack
Mar 5, 2010, 2:40 AM
Is that guy standing in the way of the cart supposed to personify the Port Authority?

Lmao, yes indeed

Complex01
Mar 5, 2010, 2:41 AM
Wow it looks massive and super tough. Kewl...

:tup:

PhxPavilion
Mar 5, 2010, 8:08 AM
Again, they have to let the elevator guys know so they can make the buttons !!!!

The building is 1,368 feet high, right, say I call one floor 10 feet. Then the tower has 136.8 floors.

If I take the actual floor hight 13' 4" then I get 102.6 floors.

The floor number is just that, a number. It has no deep mystical meaning it's just a label, a number on an elevator button.

PS: There are 92 actual floors (not counting mechanical mezzanines) and 5 sub-grade levels. Ya can't see the B1 level in that rendering because the B2 level is double hight in that area.

In other words, padding for marketing purposes. Elevator and floor numbering should follow actual floor count imo.

MadGnome
Mar 5, 2010, 1:06 PM
We well call you in 6 months, but you well be missing some cool stuff. I dare to say the most interesting stuff. The guts, or soul of the Tower.

The curtain wall is just the prom dress, I wana see the body !!!!!!

Did that line work when you were 18?

Dr Nevergold
Mar 5, 2010, 1:46 PM
Hey guy's i know im off the topic im really sorry about that, but just using one of our wonderful senses called imagination can you imagine how could/would Manhattan look in perhaps 50-200 years?

http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/movies/the_day_after_tomorrow/thedayaftertomorrow25.jpg

Maybe not, but it looks very interesting.

Domamania
Mar 5, 2010, 3:42 PM
I see that they are starting to work on the next core jump. and with this next jump the tower will start to visable by the near by skylines.

Zapatan
Mar 5, 2010, 4:08 PM
Sorry for having missed if it's already been said but why is the tower 1373 feet and not 1368?

I know it's splitting hairs just curious

RockMont
Mar 5, 2010, 6:30 PM
I'm getting ready for this thing to start shooting up. FAST!

Cat 328D LCR
Mar 5, 2010, 8:12 PM
Looks like they bought 4 or 5 of these steel mats they use to walk the cranes on... Maybe a sign of tower crane installation this weekend?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/mats.jpg

meh_cd
Mar 5, 2010, 8:29 PM
In other words, padding for marketing purposes. Elevator and floor numbering should follow actual floor count imo.

I hate to burst your bubble, but many of the famous tall towers do the same thing.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Mar 6, 2010, 10:35 AM
Oh, I hope they will install a third tower crane, so they will be able to continue with progress much faster.

One question: When they will install a third crane, will it be placed in the core of the tower or at the facade? :tup:

Realthang
Mar 6, 2010, 12:29 PM
Looks like they bought 4 or 5 of these steel mats they use to walk the cranes on... Maybe a sign of tower crane installation this weekend?

Those are probably going to be used as the ramp to move the crane off of the platform so that it can be disassembled and removed. Remember the ramp was removed after the crane was originally moved onto the platform.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Mar 6, 2010, 3:06 PM
I think they will never erect a third crane. :whip:

BStyles
Mar 6, 2010, 6:25 PM
If that's the case, then I say they pop on about a thousand more sections to the Manitowoc 18000 and let it keep erecting the tower.

The ramps are good reason that they would be disassembling the Manitowoc. They are longer since the boom is longer, so if that's the case, then so long Big Red! We couldn't have erected 1WTC without you!

2-TOWERS
Mar 6, 2010, 7:27 PM
rise baby!!!!!!!earhcam shows to levels going up:cheers:

Cat 328D LCR
Mar 6, 2010, 10:47 PM
She must be coming down real soon then that be the case

Zensteeldude
Mar 6, 2010, 11:25 PM
I think some of us may be saying goodby too big red a little too early. The corner nodes have to be finished before it goes back to the yard.

Looks to me like they are prepairing to install another tower crane at the PATH station.

steveve
Mar 7, 2010, 4:00 AM
Not sure if someone already posted this but I just noticed Jay-Z included a rendering of One World Trade Centre in his new music video "Empire State of Mind"

Pause at about 2:05 and you'll see it...

Pretty cool song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8

Bucktown718
Mar 7, 2010, 4:17 AM
no offense dude but your like so late lol
But as far as i know i did not see any post's mentioning that.
But those are just regular renderings we saw them here hundred times.
but good looks on the post ;]

2-TOWERS
Mar 7, 2010, 3:14 PM
That Was Your Yankees World Series Theme Song,

OneWorldTradeCenter
Mar 7, 2010, 5:22 PM
Are they currently working on the 20th or 21st floor???

uaarkson
Mar 7, 2010, 8:49 PM
21st is the next floor.

Innsertnamehere
Mar 7, 2010, 10:05 PM
this thing is massive! if you look closely you can see portapotties on the roof that look like they are made for ants! :haha:

NYguy
Mar 7, 2010, 11:51 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hoLC9s2pPdTeEMhZdyoS-qM_rFzAD9E9UNVO0

Ground zero hotel wants to attract 9/11 tourists

By SAMANTHA GROSS (AP)


"People choose to be here because they want to be close to it. They want to feel it, they want to celebrate. They want to remember," she said, standing by an open-air patio overlooking the site. "We have a very accessible view on it."

The hotel, which began taking reservations last month, offers some rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows that open directly onto the construction. Guests and members will have access to the restaurant patio with views of giant cranes, jackhammers and metal scaffolding.

It seems to be the first area hotel to use its proximity to the site as a marketing strategy. The carefully chosen name telegraphs the hotel's location to prospective guests. And visitors to the hotel Web site are greeted by construction photographs and memorial images.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5jZHqaPLKWbstVaZadkkJFGz6s3_A?size=l

In this photo taken March 3, 2010, One World Trade Center is under construction in New York, in a view taken from the World Center Hotel. With rooms boasting views directly out on the construction, the hotel's proximity to the site of the Sept. 11 attacks is being used as a marketing tool.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5hJkyzt_IlXJHhlidcPqUoNjpRFFg?size=l


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5hX_p8ySZeRMZ-3Oa4icVQGusP1fw?size=l


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5gjObTib74lcxQcvOqj2Yem0XaDrw?size=l

http://www.worldcenterhotel.com/

Bucktown718
Mar 8, 2010, 12:12 AM
March 7
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4414463492_faa8866801_b.jpg
TimothyHeyden (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timothyheyden/)

Plokoon11
Mar 8, 2010, 12:58 AM
Is it me or why isn't there any new steel? What happened to a floor a week?

Bucktown718
Mar 8, 2010, 1:10 AM
Is it me or why isn't there any new steel? What happened to a floor a week?
I know right The last month was so slow nothing much really happened. I hope they get back on track this month.

37TimPPG
Mar 8, 2010, 2:29 AM
Most disappointing to see the progress back to a snails pace. Hopefully they can get it together and shoot for the stars this month.

cpaul
Mar 8, 2010, 8:04 AM
I know right The last month was so slow nothing much really happened. I hope they get back on track this month.

NYC was hit by 2 or 3 different *massive* blizzards last month. I don't know if there are any scheduled to hit, but I would think that this month will not run into that problem again.

NYguy
Mar 8, 2010, 2:18 PM
Is it me or why isn't there any new steel? What happened to a floor a week?

I would assume that means when they start rising. They've just completed the base. When the office floors start rising, we'll see about that.



Anna Carmignola (http://www.flickr.com/photos/annacarmignola/4416245583/sizes/o/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2678/4416245583_68444a1172_o.jpg

sammyg
Mar 8, 2010, 7:22 PM
Is it me or why isn't there any new steel? What happened to a floor a week?

This is pure conjecture, but maybe there's a transfer floor from the base to the rest of the tower?

Zensteeldude
Mar 8, 2010, 7:27 PM
The transfer floor would be the 2nd.

The south crane is jumping so expect core steel later this week.

I think the aparent delay is due to finishing up things that can't be seen from the cams, like welding column splices. (and the weather)

NYguy
Mar 9, 2010, 1:14 AM
http://dnainfo.com/20100308/financial-district-battery-park-city/worker-falls-hole-at-ground-zero-fdny-prevented-from-entering-wtc-site


Worker Falls in a Hole at Ground Zero, FDNY Prevented From Entering WTC Site

http://s3.amazonaws.com/sfb111/image_xlimage_2010_03_R3220_Construction_worker_hole_03082010.jpg

By Jennifer Glickel
March 8, 2010


Emergency personnel rushed to Ground Zero Monday after a worker fell 20 feet into a hole and injured himself, officials said.

The FDNY received a call at 1:36 p.m. saying a worker had fallen in a hole at the Freedom Tower construction site, an FDNY official said. The worker fell 20 feet from the fourth or fifth floor of the tower, a firefighter on the scene said.

But when firefighters arrived outside the construction pit, the Port Authority prevented them from accessing the site, said FDNY spokesman Frank Dwyer.

Instead, Port Authority workers handed the injured man over to firefighters and EMS outside the construction scene, the FDNY said.

He was transported to Bellevue with head, neck and back injuries, said the FDNY.



Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4417034935/sizes/l/) (March 8)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4417034935_44b8e55809_b.jpg

Dylan Leblanc
Mar 9, 2010, 1:24 AM
On these two renderings of the tower there are three structural columns on each side which are quite visable behind the glass. Does anyone know why these only appear at the top portion of the tower and not any lower?

Also, why there is an area of six floors that have a different type of glass that appears more transparent?

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/85401223/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/104641641/original.jpg

CalibratedZeus
Mar 9, 2010, 1:30 AM
On these two renderings of the tower there are three structural columns on each side which are quite visable behind the glass. Does anyone know why these only appear at the top portion of the tower and not any lower?

Also, why there is an area of six floors that have a different type of glass that appears more transparent?

As for the first, it may be structural support, it may just be to spice up the top of the building a bit like the base has its own style. Maybe Zensteeldude has an official answer.

As for the second, I assume you mean the six floors directly in the center of the render, which is where the vantage point of the rendering is from..... you can see those floors straight through (minus the core) while floors above and blow the vantage are simply blocked by the viewing angle.

evanmack
Mar 9, 2010, 2:21 AM
It is just the reflection of the light on the building.

Dylan Leblanc
Mar 9, 2010, 4:46 AM
The transparent glass is the area about 10 floors down from the top, not in the mid-section of the tower. Why is it like that?

uakoops
Mar 9, 2010, 4:54 AM
The transparent glass is the area about 10 floors down from the top, not in the mid-section of the tower. Why is it like that?

I think those are mech floors and have ventilation grills instead of glass.

Dylan Leblanc
Mar 9, 2010, 5:44 AM
ah ok. thanks guys. :)

Cat 328D LCR
Mar 9, 2010, 11:58 AM
New steel on trailers waiting to be off loaded visable from the HD cam

NYguy
Mar 9, 2010, 2:14 PM
You can even see the difference in those floors on some of the models...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/120435008/original.jpg

NYguy
Mar 9, 2010, 2:57 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/03/09/2010-03-09_accident_sparks_ground_zero_tiff.html?r=ny_local&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fny_local+%28NY+Local%29

Accident at Freedom Tower site adds fuel to Ground Zero feud between Port Authority, city

BY Erin Einhorn and John Lauinger
March 9th 2010


A Bronx hardhat was seriously injured when he plunged nearly two stories inside the Freedom Tower on Monday - sparking a flareup in the ongoing feud between the city and the Port Authority over access to Ground Zero.

Jose Jerez, 28, was working on a doorway 100 feet above street level when he plummeted about 14 feet, landing on a plywood floor inside the skyscraper-to-be, Port Authority officials said.

The Port Authority, which owns and has sole jurisdiction over the former World Trade Center site, dispatched its own police and emergency responders, who reached Jerez "within a minute or two" of his fall, said spokesman Steve Coleman.

The first FDNY unit to reach Ground Zero, Engine 10, arrived at the site's northern end, along Vesey St., but was not permitted entry by the Port Authority, FDNY sources said.

A short time later, six members of the FDNY's Squad 18 unit arrived at the western edge of Ground Zero and were allowed to assist in removing Jerez from the site, the FDNY sources said.

Port Authority rescuers lifted Jerez out from inside the building in a wire basket and used a hoist to lower him to the ground. An FDNY ambulance took him to Bellevue Hospital, where he was initially listed in serious condition, FDNY sources said.

While the rescue was unfolding, several additional FDNY units joined Engine 10 outside the Vesey St. entrance but also were kept at bay.

Officials said an FDNY battalion chief fumed when told the Freedom Tower could not handle the 50 or 60 additional firefighters who showed up.

FerrariEnzo
Mar 9, 2010, 4:10 PM
What a shame. Such playground politics...

photoLith
Mar 9, 2010, 4:46 PM
5o-6o firefighters showed up for one guy falling? Seems like a massive waste of their time and a little redundant.

PhxPavilion
Mar 9, 2010, 4:47 PM
The port authority sure sound like a bunch of clowns.

meh_cd
Mar 9, 2010, 5:51 PM
5o-6o firefighters showed up for one guy falling? Seems like a massive waste of their time and a little redundant.

Well, 10 House is literally across the street. It was stupid not to let them in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/NEW%20wtc/bleh.jpg

RockMont
Mar 9, 2010, 7:02 PM
The port authority sure sound like a bunch of clowns.


They are! Come on guys, get the thing done, it is what was planned and because of the circumstances, it should have had special priority all along and all you're concerned about is corporate greed and beaureaucratic bullshit! :hell:

At least the Freedom Tower is growing rapidly.:)

37TimPPG
Mar 9, 2010, 8:53 PM
Could it be??? HD Cam shows MORE core steel going up! And it looks like they raised the SUBWAY sandwich shop as well.

YAY!

Plokoon11
Mar 9, 2010, 9:16 PM
^ Yes finally I come home to see updates! Now I am satisfied.

MadGnome
Mar 9, 2010, 9:30 PM
The Port Authority was exactly right. The FDNY gets a little carried away sometimes. They would have shut down the whole site all day for no reason. I was trapped near a gasoline fire for a day once because they clooged the only road out with 30 trucks when there was no way to get more than one to the fire. There must have been 20 Chiefs there. Every one of them in charge.

Domamania
Mar 9, 2010, 10:24 PM
i see that on earth cam that every floor bilt on freedom tower the more the last top floor disappears. i think 3 more levels and you wont be able to see the progression anymore on freedom tower as it slowly rises.

Firefightersfla
Mar 9, 2010, 10:31 PM
Hey, no picking on the FDNY!!

NYCLuver
Mar 9, 2010, 11:25 PM
March 9th, 2010

Looking at the first core steel above the base. The steel in the foreground is of WTC 4.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy111/DKNY618/IMG_1124.jpg

rich_200
Mar 9, 2010, 11:31 PM
It's about time to step up the pace!! :)

Zensteeldude
Mar 10, 2010, 12:04 AM
On these two renderings of the tower there are three structural columns on each side which are quite visable behind the glass. Does anyone know why these only appear at the top portion of the tower and not any lower?

Also, why there is an area of six floors that have a different type of glass that appears more transparent?


Renderings are a form of art, created by an artist. They are seldom correct in all detail. Believe me, those columns well go all the way down.

As for the different type of glass, there is no glass there, those are air intakes.


Security at the WTC is tight, like crazy tight. Like everyone working there has to go through a background check, armed guards there 24/7, etc.. I can see em letting the first FDNY responders in, but 60 !!!!!! Hope the construction worker makes a full recovery.

NYguy
Mar 10, 2010, 1:52 AM
Could it be??? HD Cam shows MORE core steel going up!

I would hope so. Otherwise, this would be one of the worst "bait and switch" renderings we've seen...

sw5710
Mar 10, 2010, 4:02 AM
going up at 2 floors at a time now?

Domamania
Mar 10, 2010, 4:18 AM
is it me or the steel beems of tower 1 look bigger and more massive then the steel beems of tower 4.

NYguy
Mar 10, 2010, 1:16 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/mob_bribe_plot_at_wtc_uaeNvSpybQdwwp4DApTGwM

Mob 'bribe' plot at WTC

By JANON FISHER
March 10, 2010

Ground Zero can't shake the mob.

Eight members of the Colombo crime family were indicted yesterday for allegedly offering kickbacks to land a subcontract at the site -- and then threatening to use muscle to collect on late payments from the company.

Prosecutors in Brooklyn federal court alleged the mob clan offered kickbacks to a foreman at Ground Zero to ensure that Testa Corp, a Boston-area excavator, would subcontract with All Around Trucking, a Colombo carting company.

The mobsters then threatened to shut the Freedom Tower operation down -- using force if necessary -- when Testa fell several hundred thousand dollars behind in payments, according to the charges.

"You want me to yoke the guy up and hit him over the f - - - ing head with a coffee pot?" alleged mobster James Bombino asks Michael Persico, the son of jailed former crime-family boss Carmine "The Snake" Persico, according to wiretaps arranged by the feds.

Persico -- whose only run-in with the law until now had been a drunk-driving bust -- told Bombino to "threaten the job," according to the tapes.

At one point, Bombino told a confidential informant that Persico told him: "We have to light a fire under their ass. Where's the check? They're shakin' in their boots."

But Persico's cousin, Theodore "Skinny" Persico Jr., who was on supervised release for a previous racketeering conviction, appears much more willing to use violence, according to the FBI recordings.

When a former Gambino-family member comes to "Skinny" Persico looking for protection after jumping to the Colombo clan, he tells the man: "If it was up to me, I'd go get a gun and shoot them or stab them or beat them up when I see 'em," according to the tapes.

"Skinny" then allegedly began extorting money from him in exchange for protection.

NYguy
Mar 10, 2010, 2:01 PM
asterix611 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28722563@N05/page2/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4421727620_dd2acf23ed_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4420948407_e3f7a33969_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2780/4420926585_a3375b2b5f_b.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4420631839_9ae78ce539_b.jpg

BStyles
Mar 10, 2010, 2:16 PM
Ah, the mob....never gets tiring.:haha:

If they would have shut the site down the NYPD, PA, SPI, and FBI would've been dead on their asses. That would have been a great Law&Order episode.

NYguy
Mar 10, 2010, 2:29 PM
If they would have shut the site down the NYPD, PA, SPI, and FBI would've been dead on their asses. That would have been a great Law&Order episode.

Hmmmm, would Tony Soprano shut down the site? Probably not, but Uncle Junior would...:D


A few more from asterix611 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28722563@N05/page12/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4420623369_2cb4361962_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2682/4421374152_31e2e58e1a_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4420607327_52e14636b7_b.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4420576299_1ffe375163_b.jpg

ChiSoxRox
Mar 10, 2010, 2:32 PM
asterix611 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28722563@N05/page2/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4421727620_dd2acf23ed_b.jpg


What's the brand new building in the right distance? Goldman Sachs?

OneWorldTradeCenter
Mar 10, 2010, 2:37 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/03/09/2010-03-09_accident_sparks_ground_zero_tiff.html?r=ny_local&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fny_local+%28NY+Local%29

Accident at Freedom Tower site adds fuel to Ground Zero feud between Port Authority, city

BY Erin Einhorn and John Lauinger
March 9th 2010

Poor guy!!

NYguy
Mar 10, 2010, 2:38 PM
What's the brand new building in the right distance? Goldman Sachs?

That's 123 Washington (the W Hotel)...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=93680

I believe there are columns going up on the Freedom Tower now.

ChiSoxRox
Mar 10, 2010, 2:41 PM
That's 123 Washington (the W Hotel)...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=93680

I believe there are columns going up on the Freedom Tower now.

Thanks.

37TimPPG
Mar 10, 2010, 3:17 PM
Ah, the mob....never gets tiring.:haha:

If they would have shut the site down the NYPD, PA, SPI, and FBI would've been dead on their asses. That would have been a great Law&Order episode.

Where's "Big Pussy" when you need him?:D

37TimPPG
Mar 10, 2010, 3:19 PM
On HD Cam it looks like the first outer columns of Steel are being erected on the first office floor! YAY!