NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[uaarkson]

No, the 6th floor is the one they'll be working on next, hopefully starting within the next two weeks. The floor they just finished is floor 5. So after floor six, they'll start on the first office floor (officially labeled as floor 20).

[Gateway395]

Oh here we go again with floor count... Just let it go!

[WTC4EVER]

No, the 6th floor is the one they'll be working on next, hopefully starting within the next two weeks. The floor they just finished is floor 5. So after floor six, they'll start on the first office floor (officially labeled as floor 20).

actually not to sound like a jerk, but your wrong too. they are just finishing floor 6. and after that is floor 6M. THEN starts regular office floors:)

[Zensteeldude]

Is the mast 440 feet tall? And 440 tons?

Yes, it tips the scales at about one ton per foot. The main vertical members in the center section (above the cable anchors) are 9 inch solid rounds.

This thing is not some radio antenna, it is a mast, designed to hold many tons of equipment, on top of a 1,368 foot tower.

[uaarkson]

actually not to sound like a jerk, but your wrong too. they are just finishing floor 6. and after that is floor 6M. THEN starts regular office floors:)

haha, that's what I meant

[Zensteeldude]

[QUOTE=canadate;4648142]I have a few photos but I also have a quick question..if it's already been asked don't catch an attitude with me, I apologize. I was at the site yesterday and noticed these cables for the first time...what are they for?

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/DSCF4225.jpg


The cables are not on any drawing. Hummmm, I don't think those are cables, I think that's rebar for a wall.

[WTC4EVER]

haha, that's what I meant

lol:D

[sw5710]

Yes, it tips the scales at about one ton per foot. The main vertical members in the center section (above the cable anchors) are 9 inch solid rounds.

This thing is not some radio antenna, it is a mast, designed to hold many tons of equipment, on top of a 1,368 foot tower.

"THANKS"

[sw5710]

Will floor 6 and 6M appear as 1 large floor or look the same as 4 and 5 do?

[Zensteeldude]

By definition the mezzanine floors are not full floors. The highest floor at this point is the 6th floor. They need to put up 6M before they can put up the 20th floor witch is the next full floor and the first office floor, but is NOT a normal floor. The first one of those is the 21st floor.

[sw5710]

Is the steel floor that is being installed today for floor 6

[Zensteeldude]

Yep.

[canadate]

The cables are not on any drawing. Hummmm, I don't think those are cables, I think that's rebar for a wall.

Good point, didn't think about that. I guess we'll just have to wait and see then. Thanks!

[NYguy]

Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4274137617/sizes/l/) (Jan 14)

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[NYguy]

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=9563738

Spielberg to Make TV Doc. on World Trade Center Rebuild

January 14, 2010


LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Oscar winning film director Steven Spielberg is to make a TV documentary on the rebuilding of New York's World Trade Center, which was destroyed in the September 11 2001 attacks.

The Science Channel said on Thursday that Spielberg would executive produce the six-part documentary series "Rebuilding Ground Zero", due to be shown in 2011.

The series will chronicle not just the engineering and building of the new 1,776-foot (541-meter) high skyscraper, but will seek to honor those who lost their lives in the September 11 airplane attack.

It will also examine the effect of the redevelopment on the lives of New Yorkers, the cable channel said.

"The rebuilding effort at Ground Zero is a compelling story of remembrance and renewal," New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a statement.

"The facts that Steven Spielberg -- one of the great filmmakers of our time -- will produce a documentary on it ensures that the story will be brought to life for people around the world for generations to come."

Science Channel said the series would use 3D, time-lapse cameras, computer modeling techniques and other high technology methods to bring the story to life.

The shimmering glass skyscraper, formerly known as the "Freedom Tower" but renamed One World Trade Center last year, will be the tallest building in the United States and the centerpiece of the new World Trade Center site. The site will also include a National September 11 Memorial and Museum.

Rebuilding efforts have been repeatedly stalled after legal fights with insurers, clashes over design and security and a failure to attract tenants.

Some 2,752 people were killed on September 11, 2001 when hijackers crashed two planes into the World Trade Center's Twin Towers in New York's financial district.

Work on the Freedom Tower officially began in late 2006 and is scheduled to be completed in 2013.

[CalibratedZeus]

The cables are not on any drawing. Hummmm, I don't think those are cables, I think that's rebar for a wall.

I am going to make all of our theories on this even worse. Looking closer at a bunch of older photos, and 2 by NYC-Graffhead91 (Page 357) 4 days ago showed this the best....

Notice how on this shot of the west facing you can clearly see the positioning of the cables, as well as the much thicker beam that they are attached to at the top. Also notice the cables only stretch the length of the opening for the entrance.

http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/pictures/wtc/4263593127_1e3526a0ab_b.jpg

Now check out this shot of the east facing. No thicker beam, no cables. The same is repeated for the south and north facings. If these cables are for a wall, why only in one small section above the western entrance? The same question carries if this is added support for the glass entry-way, why only on the west entrance?

http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/pictures/wtc/4263426561_8cd634375e_b.jpg

[Dac150]

I’ll certainly be looking forward to seeing that. Progress however is getting more and more evident by the day.

[Zensteeldude]

OK, I'm going to speculate that the cables, if that is what they are, have something to do with the fact that the columns over the entrance openings are not columns but hangers. (I know this to be fact) And that these hangers are not supported untell the 20th floor is finished. There for the cables are there to support the 3rd floor spandrel beam untell such time that the 20th floor is finished and the hanger can be a hanger.

[Cat 328D LCR]

I know this will sound crazy, but can they be to pull the floor slighty on level? I doubt it but its a wild guess

[uakoops]

OK, I'm going to speculate that the cables, if that is what they are, have something to do with the fact that the columns over the entrance openings are not columns but hangers. (I know this to be fact) And that these hangers are not supported untell the 20th floor is finished. There for the cables are there to support the 3rd floor spandrel beam untell such time that the 20th floor is finished and the hanger can be a hanger.

I was wondering what holds up all that weight until the hanger is attached at the top. I guess that's why they haven't poured any concrete on the floors yet.
OTOH, why only this side? the south entrance is much wider.

My theory is that they are there to spread the tension of the cable net wall over 2 beams. Again, why only this side?

Maybe it's just a giant egg slicer (for the Subway?) :haha: :haha:

[Indescribable]

From the rendering, it looks like the base section is almost complete.

[westmc9th]

from this render it looks like we can start to see the building rise over the Winter Garden, so if any gets a chance go out to the river and take some shots lol!

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7303/dothisnow.jpg

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Great!!!! How tall is the windergarden?

I guess about 100 feet?

[CoolCzech]

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=9563738

Spielberg to Make TV Doc. on World Trade Center Rebuild

January 14, 2010


LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Oscar winning film director Steven Spielberg is to make a TV documentary on the rebuilding of New York's World Trade Center, which was destroyed in the September 11 2001 attacks.

The Science Channel said on Thursday that Spielberg would executive produce the six-part documentary series "Rebuilding Ground Zero", due to be shown in 2011.


I think they're jumping the gun: save the documentary for when the rebuild is DONE.

[CalibratedZeus]

Well if you don't film it while they are building it....how are you going to have any footage of the rebuilding? By 2011 it will be topped out and most of the outside done so the main construction of the tower will be complete and the memorial *should* be done by then as well.

[NYguy]

^ Besides that, there will be other documenting of the WTC rebuilding, including our own, seen daily. But I'm looking forward to what will most likely be the stuff we haven't or aren't seeing, and some of the other behind the scenes developments...

Science Channel said the series would use 3D, time-lapse cameras, computer modeling techniques and other high technology methods to bring the story to life.

[meh_cd]

By definition the mezzanine floors are not full floors. The highest floor at this point is the 6th floor. They need to put up 6M before they can put up the 20th floor witch is the next full floor and the first office floor, but is NOT a normal floor. The first one of those is the 21st floor.

Not normal in what sense? The steel just won't have the configuration of the remaining office floors?

[BStyles]

what he means is that just like the first mechanical floor, diagonal members will be seen reconnecting through the windows. Although this floor is the widest in the building, it will be where the base ends.

[meh_cd]

what he means is that just like the first mechanical floor, diagonal members will be seen reconnecting through the windows. Although this floor is the widest in the building, it will be where the base ends.

That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure.

[Ziroc]

I wonder if Danny Forster from 'Build it Bigger' (I believe that's the name of the series with him in it) will do an episode(s) on it.

They did one on the Hover Dam bridge, but the show ended with the two cranes collapsed. Since then, they have the arch complete, and it's looking great! Hope they revisit it.

I hope MANY shows do a rebuilding of the towers, and talk with Iron workers that are working there that also worked on the original towers (or sons now working on this one). would be a great story to tell.

[NYguy]

^ Look hard and you can see several of those guys at work...

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[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Hi guys. Do they still need those two red mobile cranes?:koko:

@NYGuy: Great picture!

[kickser]

^^Tis picture is a great pic to show HOW MUCH space is between the verizon bldg. and the WTC1.

[canadate]

Photos I took yesterday. Had plenty of time this go around. Had to make up for the last ones!

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The race is on!
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[philvia]

Danny Forster would taint the new WTC if he did that.


great photo update!

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Thank you very much for that amazing update! Super shots.:cheers:

[Dac150]

I personally cannot wait for that overpass to be removed; such an eyesore, but convenient nonetheless. I’m keeping an eye out for visible internal work. Over the next few months it’ll get more evident.

[2-TOWERS]

Amazing How Big The I Beams Are... Or The Cross Beams....
Thanks For The Great Pics.

[J_M_Tungsten]

I really like how the Goldman Sachs building looks with 7 WTC. A very nice balance.

[Zensteeldude]

I was wondering what holds up all that weight until the hanger is attached at the top. I guess that's why they haven't poured any concrete on the floors yet.
OTOH, why only this side? the south entrance is much wider.

My theory is that they are there to spread the tension of the cable net wall over 2 beams. Again, why only this side?

Maybe it's just a giant egg slicer (for the Subway?) :haha: :haha:

All our guessing is out the window, there is no beam above the spandrel beam above the entrances. The spandrel beam is more than enough to support the cable net wall, even on the south side, once the hanger is supported.

I'm going back to rebar for a wall. There are alot of walls on the 3rd floor for air plenum's.

[Zensteeldude]

Not normal in what sense? The steel just won't have the configuration of the remaining office floors?

The 20th floor is not normal because it's the top of all the diagonals and there is a window washing track in there and some other differences. Basically the floor structure of the 20th floor is a part of the mechanical levels.

The 21st floor however is a nice normal office floor.

[Zensteeldude]

Hi guys. Do they still need those two red mobile cranes?:koko:

@NYGuy: Great picture!

They well probably be around untell the corner nodes are up, and the rest of the tower cranes are put up. Then the 18000 well be moved east to work on the Transit Hub.

PS: Thanks for all the pics canadate !

[Zensteeldude]

Amazing How Big The I Beams Are... Or The Cross Beams....
Thanks For The Great Pics.


Ignore the one in the middle, it's part of the roof structure. Jumbo column on the left and a main floor beam on the right.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/3256117475_0f95fa99d5_o.jpg

[WTC4EVER]

Im excited to see the actual office floors start in two weeks:D

On a side note. LOL im stupid I just relized 4WTC is in the same spot as the original, they didnt move it. ahaha:haha:

[Zensteeldude]

Me thinks you assume too much.

[NYguy]

I really like how the Goldman Sachs building looks with 7 WTC. A very nice balance.

I especially like it here...

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/January%2016th%202010/DSCF4311.jpg


But as I mentioned in the tower 4 thread, there's no better site in New York right now than these towers rising...

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Great shots.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

They well probably be around untell the corner nodes are up, and the rest of the tower cranes are put up. Then the 18000 well be moved east to work on the Transit Hub.

PS: Thanks for all the pics canadate !

Interesting. Will there a third tower crane be installed soon?

[canadate]

philvia, OneWorldTradeCenter, 2-TOWERS, Zensteeldude & NYguy:

You're all welcome and as always, I deeply appreciate all of the kind remarks :tup:

[canadate]

from this render it looks like we can start to see the building rise over the Winter Garden, so if any gets a chance go out to the river and take some shots lol!


And will do westmc9th..here's a few from the ones I took back in late September. I know you can't see it yet but this is where I'll be taking them from when I do go back over to Jersey City...And to anyone New Yorkers that go there..beware of the PATH train that goes from Hoboken Terminal to 34..DO NOT sit on the left side of the train b/c you will fly into the middle of the isle..or even worse, into the right side of the train..Seriously though, it's very dangerous. The trains go way to fast aroung the tight corners in their tunnels..don't want anyone getting hurt.

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[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Nice shoots. On the last picture a part of the southers tower crane is visiable. :yes:

[WTC4EVER]

Me thinks you assume too much.

Im not assuming. Im just going by what the Port Authority's update says, and I wouldn't doubt it either given how fast progress has been.

[2-TOWERS]

Like Ny Guy Has Been Saying For The Last 2 Yrs...the Internal Part Of This Building Took A Long Time Because Of The Path Trains And Subway Lines...we Will See This Building Rise In No Time....this Is By Far The Most Complex Building Ever.....

[Indescribable]

the Internal Part Of This Building Took A Long Time Because Of The Path Trains And Subway Lines

That would explain alot.

[evanmack]

That skyline looks so weird now. I cannot wait for it to be balanced out with these towers

[steveve]

That skyline looks so weird now. I cannot wait for it to be balanced out with these towers

I do kinda agree... especially with the new goldman sacs hq... its just extremely chunky and throws things off balance...

The skyline is also looking very bare in certain places and its hard to see all the life hidden behind those skyscrapers...

The world trade centre will add some epic height to the skyline (and fill in all the holes!)

[uaarkson]

Goldman Sachs fits perfectly into the skyline, even if it looks little odd from the angle above.

Anyway, the skyline will be at its goofiest when 1WTC and 4WTC are topped out, before 2 & 3 are up.

[TANGELD_SLC]

w00t! This baby can't rise fast enough :notacrook:

Also, is Goldman Sachs that tacky-looking curved building left of the WFC? :yuck:

[canadate]

I really don't understand why everyone is hating on the Goldman Sachs Building..it's great! The best views of this tower are anywhere on the BPC side of Vessey and towards Teardrop Park and Stuyvesant High on North End. I highly doubt that the people that are talking bad about it have actually seen it in person. If anything is tacky it's gotta be Beekman..not that I hate the building or anything, variety is good but I have to admit that the facade on it is a bit tacky. But anyway, this is the 1 WTC discussion so let's save this for the GS thread if anyone wants to talk more about this.

*Also, another great view is from the WFC plaza.

[NYguy]

That skyline looks so weird now. I cannot wait for it to be balanced out with these towers

As always, these things depend on your point of view, in this case literally, because there's not just one view of the skyline. The Downtown skyline really neads the peak that the WTC towers will provide, but it can still be amazing as it is. The WTC towers will just have that commanding presence.

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[Domamania]

Wow they are allready starting the next and final core jump for the last floor for the base. In mid Febuary the building is going to sky scrapper heights. Finally the Freedom tower has come to New York City.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

There is currently no tallest building. The American International Building is the tallest in Downtown, but doesnt exceed all others so far. So the skyline is "one line". 1 WTC will exceed all others by several meters.

[Domamania]

One question to OneWorldTradeCenter.

Around what floor and how many feet high will Freedom tower will be considered sky scrapper status and able to be seen in the skyline view in Manhattan?

[westmc9th]

looks like they are putting up new core steel already!

[weatherguru18]

As always, these things depend on your point of view, in this case literally, because there's not just one view of the skyline. The Downtown skyline really neads the peak that the WTC towers will provide, but it can still be amazing as it is. The WTC towers will just have that commanding presence.

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This is kinda a funny picture. It looks like a screenplay with the audience on their feet giving an encore. LOL--well, if you scroll down just enough for the wood stumps to be sticking out from the bottom of your computer. I dunno, I guess it was funnier when I saw it the first time.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

One question to OneWorldTradeCenter.

Around what floor and how many feet high will Freedom tower will be considered sky scrapper status and able to be seen in the skyline view in Manhattan?

From where are you looking to the skyline?

[Domamania]

well looking from the statue of liberty and all around the harbor. like circleing around the waters of southern manhattan.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

well looking from the statue of liberty and all around the harbor. like circleing around the waters of southern manhattan.

I guess about 35-40 stories high. That has to be enough. Compare to 7 WTC, that is located near the 1 WTC. This one is 750 feet tall, the equivalent of 52 stories. When youre looking from the Brooklyn Bridge, perhaps 25 stories are enough.... We will see.

[Domamania]

I guess about 35-40 stories high. That has to be enough. Compare to 7 WTC, that is located near the 1 WTC. This one is 750 feet tall, the equivalent of 52 stories. When youre looking from the Brooklyn Bridge, perhaps 25 stories are enough.... We will see.

Thank you. Your the best.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Thank you. Your the best.

I don´t know whether that is right. But I say: Compare with other buildings, 7WTC, the World Financial Center or Goldman Sachs. Those buildings give you a scale which that you can compare.

[westmc9th]

One question to OneWorldTradeCenter.

Around what floor and how many feet high will Freedom tower will be considered sky scrapper status and able to be seen in the skyline view in Manhattan?

I know im not onewtc but i can help you out too, in this rendering the black line shows the top of the verizon building so you will be able to start seeing the building real well when it reaches this level the red line indicates where we are now around 180 feet up
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/139/helpthemanout.jpg

[Domamania]

So do you think definatly by this year aroung december 2010 would they pass that black line?

I am not asking for the planned version on paper I am asking for the actuall on the conrtruction. Thank you.

[kickser]

What do you think, which height will WTC1 has in two months? I will be in NYC than and am interested on which height i will see it than.

[NYC-Graffhead91]

I was wondering.... I didn't want to ask because I didn't want to sound stupid but... Is the current design for the freedom tower gonna have the beam of light shoot up in the sky or did they take it out?

[NewYorker2009]

What do you think, which height will WTC1 has in two months? I will be in NYC than and am interested on which height i will see it than.

Well if you do the math you'll figure it out depending on how things go from here. Once they finish the 20th Floor just follow the one floor per week schedule by multiplying let's say for example you want to find out how high it will be 8 weeks after the normal office floors begin. Do 8 weeks times 13.4 Feet (which is the height of each normal office floor) and you get 107.2 Feet. Then you add the base height of about 187 Feet right so you get 294.2 Feet. I hope this helps.

[westmc9th]

So do you think definatly by this year aroung december 2010 would they pass that black line?

I am not asking for the planned version on paper I am asking for the actuall on the conrtruction. Thank you.

By the end of this year definetly, lets see even worse case scenario base doesnt get done till the end of february, that leaves 44 weeks thats 44 floors done this year 44x13.4= 589.6 feet, there will probably be weeks where they are able to do more than a floor a week and some where they cant do a floor at all so i put the estimate at 550-650 by the end of the year more near the top of 7 wtc, also best case scenario is base is done say first week of February, 48 floors times 13.4 feet equals 643.3 so it will be pretty much halfway there, also with the worse case scenario puts in at 1072 by the 10th anniversary topped out in December 2011

[NYguy]

Listen people, it'll get there when it gets there. Knowing when isn't gonna make it happen any faster. It'll be topped out the end of next year, roughly two years from now. It's not so hard to figure out.


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[NYguy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/19/business/19glass.html

Glassmaking Thrives Offshore, but Is Declining in U.S.

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The lower floors of the skyscraper being built at the World Trade Center site will be sheathed in Chinese glass.
Not an inch of imported glass went into the two lost towers, built 40 years ago.


By LOUIS UCHITELLE
January 18, 2010

The majestic steel beams of a soaring office tower beginning to rise from the ruins of the World Trade Center are a tribute to American resilience, but also a marker in the decline of yet another industry. Not an inch of imported glass went into the two lost towers, built 40 years ago. The lower floors of the new one will soon be sheathed in Chinese glass.

...Beijing Glass won in the bidding to supply the opaque, blast-resistant glass for the first 20 floors of the new tower, which is now just seven stories of steel beams, a stub along the Lower Manhattan skyline, and still dwarfed by the huge cranes putting the framework in place.

...In the Trade Center bidding, Guardian won as the supplier of the intricately layered glass for the upper 85 floors. It will soon make that glass at a factory in Carleton, Mich. But even as company executives described this victory in interviews this month, they sent out a news release noting a greater one.

Guardian manufactured all the glass — more than two million square feet of it — for the newly opened 160-story Burj Khalifa in Dubai, the world’s tallest building. That glass came not from America, but from Guardian’s factories in Germany and Luxembourg. The company now has 36 plants abroad, employing 9,000 people, up from 6,500 workers in 2005 and, for the first time, surpassing the number of Guardian employees in this country.

[kenratboy]

Well, we reap what we sow. No surprise with the glass.

[Dac150]

Listen guys, part of having an interest for development means having an interest in the actual development process. Stop wishing time away and take these next two years to witness and take in one of the most significant major developments of all time. This is the construction of the World Trade Center; don’t underestimate the significance of that.

[2-TOWERS]

Dac 150 You Couldn't Have Said It Any Better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!enjoy This Masterpiece Going Up.......dont Rush Enjoy Watching The Greatest Skyscraper Ever Going Up

[CalibratedZeus]

From Reuters.....

Looks like Silverstein gets screwed again...

By Joan Gralla

NEW YORK, Jan 4 (Reuters) - Private investors are getting another shot at developing One World Trade Center, the $3 billion lower Manhattan skyscraper the New York-New Jersey Port Authority is building in the teeth of a real estate downturn.

"As One World Trade Center increasingly becomes a reality in the skyline, it is a time that makes sense to determine if there is a strategic partner who can add to the long-term success of the building," Port Authority Stephen Sigmund said by telephone on Monday.

The Port Authority, whose revenues have slid as the recession squeezes the money it gets from its airports, bridges and tunnels, has for the past few years weighed various ways of tapping private money for the tower's rebuilding.

In 2007, for example, it contacted private buyers about possibly buying the entire tower.

But now, in return for a "small slice" of the development costs -- a minimum of $100 million -- a new equity investor would share in the long-term profits from rising rents, two sources familiar with the agency's strategy said.

This is a reversal from the authority's previous policy under which it leased the World Trade Center for 99 years to developer Larry Silverstein two months before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Investment banks, hedge funds and private equity funds have raised billions of dollars to bet on distressed commercial real estate; U.S. prices have shrunk over 43 percent during the recession, according to Moody's/Real Commercial Property Price Index. [ID:nN24186404]

But so far at least, the Port Authority is only seeking companies with expertise in leasing offices and shops and running commercial buildings.

The mostly New York companies the agency has contacted might however, bring in other partners, such as banks, hedge funds and private equity firms.

The list of potential investors includes: Boston Properties (BXP.N), Brookfield Properties (BPO.TO), Related Companies, Vornado Realty Trust (VNO.N), and the Durst Organization.

TIMING, TENANTS

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has repeatedly said that downturns can be the best times to build new projects because they can be opened as the economy is reviving.

Durst spokesman Jordan Barowitz echoed that point, "It's a great time to build," he said but declined to comment further.

The Port Authority has struggled to find tenants for the skyscraper -- even agency officials have said their employees did not want to return to the site which has been attacked twice. Last March, the office tower, which has risen several floors above street level, was renamed One World Trade Center to make it easier to market its offices.

The building previously was called the Freedom Tower, a name that along with its 1,776-foot (541-metre) height was chosen to exemplify New York City's resurgence after two passenger jets were flown into the Twin Towers, killing nearly 3,000 people.

The rebuilding of the entire complex has repeatedly stalled, first due to legal fights with insurers, then clashes over designs and security, and now another brawl between Silverstein and the Port Authority over financing for three other towers.

During this period, New York City's real estate market has crumbled. Since the market's peak in mid-2007, prices for top quality buildings have fallen about 55 percent, according to Josh Gelormini, a vice president of research for real estate service company Jones Lang LaSalle.

Few sellers have been willing to accept the sharply lower prices. Only six office buildings changed hands in the first three quarters of 2009 versus an average of 55 during the same period over the past five years, according to CB Richard Ellis, another real estate services firm.

One deal was done last year at roughly 60 to 70 percent "below where it might have been at the peak," Nat Rockett, managing director of Jones Lang LaSalle's capital markets group, said by e-mail.

Vacancy rates for downtown Manhattan's trophy properties have clung to about 9 percent for the past few months, but they might top 20 percent by 2014, according to James Delmonte, director of research for Jones Lang LaSalle's New York office. [ID:nN21248733] (Reporting by Joan Gralla; additional reporting by Ilaina Jonas; Editing by Tim Dobbyn)

[westmc9th]

The south crane is jumping again i circled it in blue, i also circled some white sheet like things they put down this morning, does anybody know what they are for???

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2586/cranejump.jpg

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

The south crane is jumping again i circled it in blue, i also circled some white sheet like things they put down this morning, does anybody know what they are for???

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2586/cranejump.jpg

I have absolutely no idea what that is. Does anyone know why they always jump up the soutern crane first, before the nothern crane?:shrug:

[NYguy]

Listen guys, part of having an interest for development means having an interest in the actual development process. Stop wishing time away and take these next two years to witness and take in one of the most significant major developments of all time.

Agree 100 %.


http://lowermanhattan.info/news/new_steel_steadily_setting_63429.aspx

the steel superstructure of 1 World Trade Center is making constant visible progress having reached 155 feet. Those base floors will serve the buildings mechanicals, with actual tenant floors 20 through 90 which will begin rise in February.


rwchicago (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rwchicago/4282678977/sizes/l/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4282678977_7d49289e00_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2680/4283419162_879e6b2b89_b.jpg

[Ferocrete]

I have absolutely no idea what that is. Does anyone know why they always jump up the soutern crane first, before the nothern crane?:shrug:

The sheets are probably there to protect the stainless steel from the welding above. You can see they've attached the yellow rigs to the floor above. They are starting to weld the joints above.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

The sheets are probably there to protect the stainless steel from the welding above. You can see they've attached the yellow rigs to the floor above. They are starting to weld the joints above.

I supposed that this has something to do with welding.

[Domamania]

How can you post pictures on the the forum, tried to figure it out by my self but was unsuccesful. Can some body tell how so this way I can take the live pic from earthcam and post it for all of you to see it daily.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Update from RGZ:

image deleted by myself. Reason: Poor quality of picture.

[QuarterMileSidewalk]

:previous: Nice view! pretty comprehensive.

Hey, if everyone in the country sent Larry Silverstein ten bucks, would that be enough to get the other two towers going? :jester:

[Krases]

I have a random question.

Does anyone know the width of the tower?

[JSsocal]

200'x200', almost the base of an original 1WTC

[Krases]

200'x200', almost the base of an original 1WTC

Alright cool. I have been trying to figure that out for a while now. Thanks.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

200'x200', almost the base of an original 1WTC

The base of the original WTC was 208 x 208 (64m x 64m). The base of the Freedom Tower is 200 x 200, you´re right, thats about 61m. The roof is smaller.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Hi guys.

I want to know YOUR personal opinion:

What do you think, how long will 1WTC hold the title of the tallest building in New York?

[Domamania]

For atleast 30 years to 40 years. thats the major cycle in NYC. I mean the Empire State Building in 1931- then WTC Twin Towers IN 1974- AND now the new Freedom Tower AKA Tower 1 v2 in 2 years. I could be wrong but thats my Opinion.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

For atleast 30 years to 40 years. thats the major cycle in NYC. I mean the Empire State Building in 1931- then WTC Twin Towers IN 1974- AND now the new Freedom Tower AKA Tower 1 v2 in 2 years. I could be wrong but thats my Opinion.

I think you´re right. That´s the major cycle in whole U.S. Have a look at Chicago, the Sears Tower is the tallest since 1974, and the Spire will most likely never be built...

But if 9/11 never happend, the twin Towers whould still be the tallest in the city. Until now, there is no taller building planned in NYC. Only this one here.:rolleyes:

[NYC-Graffhead91]

"tower verre" was gonna look awesome with it's original height... sad... anyway...

Jan-18-2009:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2724/4290080453_8ce9e29d5d_o.jpg

Jan-19-2009:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4290822770_6e7d252e9b_o.jpg

Jan-20-2009:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4290823382_aa1f951044_o.jpg

All three pics from earthcam ground zero cams http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/ (I only added the date and time on top left)

[canadate]

For atleast 30 years to 40 years. thats the major cycle in NYC. I mean the Empire State Building in 1931- then WTC Twin Towers IN 1974- AND now the new Freedom Tower AKA Tower 1 v2 in 2 years. I could be wrong but thats my Opinion.

I was wondering about that also thank you for asking that OneWorldTradeCenter. And Domamania, I agree with your prediction..makes sense. I wonder where something taller than 1 WTC would be put though..I think that would be an interesting thread..I wonder if anyone started one already. And nice, new steel!!

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

I was wondering about that also thank you for asking that OneWorldTradeCenter. And Domamania, I agree with your prediction..makes sense. I wonder where something taller than 1 WTC would be put though..I think that would be an interesting thread..I wonder if anyone started one already.

Where? Please start such a thread. That whould be great. Its a nice topic.

[Domamania]

If they buld that dream building in 40 years in NYC, I believe they should put it in between Empire State Building and Freedom Tower. so this way it would balance the NYC sky line. I mean ther are to many tall buildings cramped up in the 2 spots where the ESB is and Freedom Tower is. So it makes NYC skyline fuller and grander.