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OneWorldTradeCenter
Jul 8, 2010, 5:48 PM
The tower has 105 stories, not 102.

2014?????!!!! I thought 2013! That is the schedule, according to the PA's report from October 2008.


I got some more stuff from the PA's website (2013 is the completion date):


THE DURST ORGANIZATION SELECTED TO NEGOTIATE EQUITY MEMBERSHIP INTEREST IN ONE WORLD TRADE CENTER
Date: Jul 07, 2010
Press Release Number: 48

Action Adds to Growing Market Confidence in One WTC and Momentum of Entire WTC Site

The Port Authority today selected The Durst Organization (“Durst”) to negotiate acquisition of an equity membership interest in One World Trade Center. Over approximately the next 30 days, Port Authority staff and Durst will work to finalize an agreement subject to the approval of the Board of Commissioners.

The selection follows an intensely competitive six-month process involving some of New York City’s and the nation’s most prominent private sector real estate interests – all vying for a stake in One World Trade Center.

The Port Authority chose to advance negotiations with Durst because its proposal best aligned with the agency’s interests in the long-term success of the office tower and because of the firm’s prior success in developing premier, “green” office buildings.

Port Authority Chairman Anthony R. Coscia said, “We’re extremely pleased that some of the most prominent developers in the country saw market value in this world-class office tower, and engaged in an extremely competitive process for a stake in it. What is most important is that we reach an agreement that is good for the building, for the World Trade Center site and for the region.”

Port Authority Executive Director Chris Ward said, “This confirms a clear and growing market interest in One World Trade Center and adds further momentum to the development of the overall site.”

Under the Durst proposal, the firm will make a minimum investment of $100 million to acquire a membership interest in One World Trade Center LLC. Durst will also bring its expertise in assisting the Port Authority with ongoing construction and take on primary responsibility for tenant fit-out, leasing and property management. In exchange, Durst would receive a financial return tied to its equity interest and performance of the building.

The family owned Durst Organization controls ten million square feet of commercial office space with a current occupancy rate of 97 percent. Most recently, it successfully developed and opened One Bryant Park, the 2.1 million square foot tower on 42nd Street, which is home to Bank of America.

Construction of One World Trade Center has now risen to the 28th floor – about 270 feet above street level.

When completed in 2013, the LEED Gold Certified tower will contain approximately 2.6 million square feet of world-class office space, along with an observation deck and a skytop restaurant.

Currently, the Port Authority has leases or commitments for approximately 1.3 million square feet of space in the tower. The Vantone Industry Co. has signed a lease for 190,810 square feet of office space, which it plans to use for the China Center. The U.S. General Services Administration and the New York State Office of General Services have commitments totaling 1.1 million square feet.

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/press_releasesItem.cfm?headLine_id=1302

NYguy
Jul 8, 2010, 5:56 PM
I really though Durst would get it all along, because wherever Durst goes, Conde Nast follows. They were going to jump over to the Hudson Yards, and now it looks like they will follow to the WTC and lease 1 msf. It at least looks that way.


Governor David A. Paterson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/governordavidapaterson/4771501282/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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brian.odonnell20
Jul 8, 2010, 7:49 PM
anyone think this leasing snowball effect will carry over to towers 2 and 3 ? ? :shrug:

uaarkson
Jul 8, 2010, 8:14 PM
anyone think this leasing snowball effect will carry over to towers 2 and 3 ? ? :shrug:

Yes. :)

There has been a ton of renewed interest in the site after the PA finally pulled their heads out of their asses and got a construction plan started. What a shocker!

Onn
Jul 8, 2010, 8:16 PM
The tower has 105 stories, not 102.

2014?????!!!! I thought 2013! That is the schedule, according to the PA's report from October 2008.


I got some more stuff from the PA's website (2013 is the completion date):

Well it's kind of obvious 1WTC is kind of behind schedule. I would certainly not put 2014 out of the question at all.

The North One
Jul 8, 2010, 8:44 PM
Well it's kind of obvious 1WTC is kind of behind schedule. I would certainly not put 2014 out of the question at all.

ok so, first it was 2010, than 2011, than 2012, THAN 2013, NOW 2014!!??!?!?

whats next 2020?!?! :hell:

J.M.
Jul 8, 2010, 9:11 PM
ok so, first it was 2010, than 2011, than 2012, THAN 2013, NOW 2014!!??!?!?

whats next 2020?!?! :hell:

I wouldn't complain like that. Rome wasn't built in a day, the old World Trade Center from it's proposal date probably took longer than what this will take. Patients, it will be built.

CoolCzech
Jul 8, 2010, 9:24 PM
Now it's 102 stories?

I thought it was 109?

No, wait... later it was 105...

Does anybody have any idea just how many stories this tower will really have?

Zensteeldude
Jul 8, 2010, 9:40 PM
I would just like to share some information about construction projects that is not usually talked about in press releases or on the evening news.

This Tower well be finished and open in 2013.

Why do I know this ? Because in all the construction contracts there is a section about scheduling and completion dates.

On a job this size a contractor well be fined as much as $25,000, or more, a day for every day there section of work is not finished.

Zensteeldude
Jul 8, 2010, 9:41 PM
Now it's 102 stories?

I thought it was 109?

No, wait... later it was 105...

Does anybody have any idea just how many stories this tower will really have?

92, but I did see a floor numbered 110.

mwadswor
Jul 8, 2010, 9:49 PM
On a job this size a contractor well be fined as much as $25,000, or more, a day for every day there section of work is not finished.

If work gets delayed a day due to weather/safety/factors outside of the contractor's control, does the contractor's deadline get extended by a day?

Zensteeldude
Jul 8, 2010, 9:57 PM
There are weather loss days built into the schedule. But if something big happens like another blizzard of '96, or a hurricane they add days.

RKOwens44
Jul 8, 2010, 11:03 PM
Now it's 102 stories?

I thought it was 109?

No, wait... later it was 105...

Does anybody have any idea just how many stories this tower will really have?

The floor number for 1WTC will be whatever number they arbitrarily choose. I can understand how the lower 186'8" of the building (the base) are counted as 19 floors, but then there are 69 office floors, with the highest office floor being Floor 89. Things get weird however, by the fact that there are then 3 mechanical floors before you get to the restaurant, which are about twice the height as a normal office floor. So, logically these should be counted as 6 floors and the restaurant should be Floor 96. Yet, they're calling the 2-story restaurant Floor 100 and 101! The obs deck is 102, then two mechanical floors, then the roof, which would be 105 floors (the roof of the Twin Towers was called the 110th floor, even though it wasn't really a floor, just the roof).

So, yeah, it doesn't make a lot of logical sense. It's just a number they're choosing. But hey, I guess a lot of skyscrapers get away with the same kind of "cheating". The Empire State Building is classified as being 102 stories tall, even though the outdoor observation deck on the roof is only the 86th floor. They just call it 102 stories because there's another very small viewing deck on the top of the building's spire.

Dac150
Jul 8, 2010, 11:07 PM
Odds are now that Conde will eventually call Downtown its new home.

NYguy
Jul 9, 2010, 2:08 AM
Odds are now that Conde will eventually call Downtown its new home.

That's been my thinking on this.

As far as the "completion" date goes. The difference between 2013 and 2014 is a matter of months, and not likely a difference we will be able to see visually anyway. So why always with the panic here on this board? I can never understand that. A bad scenario will be not having this tower built at all. If they need a little more time to get it completed? Who cares.

Highrise_Mike
Jul 9, 2010, 3:15 AM
The floor number for 1WTC will be whatever number they arbitrarily choose. I can understand how the lower 186'8" of the building (the base) are counted as 19 floors, but then there are 69 office floors, with the highest office floor being Floor 89. Things get weird however, by the fact that there are then 3 mechanical floors before you get to the restaurant, which are about twice the height as a normal office floor. So, logically these should be counted as 6 floors and the restaurant should be Floor 96. Yet, they're calling the 2-story restaurant Floor 100 and 101! The obs deck is 102, then two mechanical floors, then the roof, which would be 105 floors (the roof of the Twin Towers was called the 110th floor, even though it wasn't really a floor, just the roof).

So, yeah, it doesn't make a lot of logical sense. It's just a number they're choosing. But hey, I guess a lot of skyscrapers get away with the same kind of "cheating". The Empire State Building is classified as being 102 stories tall, even though the outdoor observation deck on the roof is only the 86th floor. They just call it 102 stories because there's another very small viewing deck on the top of the building's spire.

Haha this is a little off subject but I know hot it goes. I used to live in Vegas and when I would go up the Stratosphere Tower they just set a random number of floors to be the official count! It says about 110 floors but the considered 110th floor is only about 900 feet above the ground, it doesn't make sense, but they just like to make the claim, just with 1WTC.

37TimPPG
Jul 9, 2010, 4:23 AM
Yes. :)

There has been a ton of renewed interest in the site after the PA finally pulled their heads out of their asses and got a construction plan started. What a shocker!

Don't forget, BNY/Mellon is also snooping around for a LARGE chunk of Office Space (400,000 sq ft+) so that could be just the catalyst to get everything off the ground and racing to the sky!

NYguy
Jul 9, 2010, 12:34 PM
Don't forget, BNY/Mellon is also snooping around for a LARGE chunk of Office Space (400,000 sq ft+) so that could be just the catalyst to get everything off the ground and racing to the sky!

I think one of the other WTC towers would be more of a candidate than the Freedom Tower. There are several firms looking for large blocks of office space, the WTC being under construction having the advantage over other large office towers proposed.

BStyles
Jul 9, 2010, 2:09 PM
Okay so Vantone, BNY/Mellon, and Conde Nast. That's between 1.6 and 1.8 msf taken up.

If they're spaced out evenly, 1WTC will look amazing at night.

Dac150
Jul 9, 2010, 2:50 PM
I’m confident that after the first major tenant takes the first plunge into signing a lease agreement (whether that’s Conde or not) others will begin to follow. Sometimes you need that initial jolt for things to start heating up.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jul 9, 2010, 3:59 PM
Did they already start with fire proofing?

37TimPPG
Jul 9, 2010, 7:07 PM
I'm sure all this potential interest in the WTC site by large Corporations has to be driving the Midtown developers (who can't seem to get their projects off the ground) absolutely nuts!

Dac150
Jul 9, 2010, 7:15 PM
^^^I would say yes and no to that. Yes to the short term (though nothing has been officially announced as far as tenants go), but no on the long term given the amount of lease expirations that will take place over the next five years. New York has office space, but aging office space at that; the type that many big name tenants no longer find suitable. New, more modern space will be shortly in demand.

For Durst it won’t be a loss given that if it happens, it’s a matter of relocating a current client to a new setting in the same city. Their only worry would be to fill 4 TS, which by no means should be an issue (it’s still a fairly young building in the heart of Midtown).

brian.odonnell20
Jul 9, 2010, 8:53 PM
now if only philadelphia could get its proposed 1500 footer some tenants, then I'd fully support this momentum in downtown... :rolleyes:

Zensteeldude
Jul 10, 2010, 12:19 AM
Haha this is a little off subject but I know hot it goes. I used to live in Vegas and when I would go up the Stratosphere Tower they just set a random number of floors to be the official count! It says about 110 floors but the considered 110th floor is only about 900 feet above the ground, it doesn't make sense, but they just like to make the claim, just with 1WTC.

There is a difference there, Tower One has the hight [1,368 feet] to actually make 110 floors, even if there are not going to be 110 actual floors. All of the mechanical floors in the base are actually double hight [26+ feet] as are the mechanical floors above the 90th.

Zensteeldude
Jul 10, 2010, 12:25 AM
Did they already start with fire proofing?

Fire proofing is not weatherproof, they usually spray it on just before the curtain wall goes in.

sw5710
Jul 10, 2010, 2:27 AM
As for 900' they use the equivalent of 8' or 9' per floor. Not 13'4" the typical office floor.

CHAPINM1
Jul 10, 2010, 4:23 AM
As for 900' they use the equivalent of 8' or 9' per floor. Not 13'4" the typical office floor.

That's still way too short. Buildings these days are not built with floor heights that short, plus they have most people fooled since most people don't take the time to figure out how high it really is in feet. Most people are so stupid they will fall for Stratosphere 110 floors being the same 110 floor equivilant of the WTC for example.

scalziand
Jul 10, 2010, 4:40 AM
Fire proofing is not weatherproof, they usually spray it on just before the curtain wall goes in.

I thought newer fireproofing used cement based material which would be weather proof.

Cat 328D LCR
Jul 10, 2010, 5:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEe9Q1bZ7V8

sw5710
Jul 10, 2010, 5:44 AM
[QUOTE=CHAPINM1;4907096]That's still way too short. Buildings these days are not built with floor heights that short, plus they have most people fooled since most people don't take the time to figure out how high it really is in feet. Most people are so stupid they will fall for Stratosphere 110 floors being the same 110 floor equivilant of the WTC for example.[/QUO

I think the Stratosphere uses a smaller floor height like a hotel. Not the equivilant of an office building to get there 110. That is several feet per floor difference.

CHAPINM1
Jul 10, 2010, 6:02 AM
[quote=CHAPINM1;4907096]That's still way too short. Buildings these days are not built with floor heights that short, plus they have most people fooled since most people don't take the time to figure out how high it really is in feet. Most people are so stupid they will fall for Stratosphere 110 floors being the same 110 floor equivilant of the WTC for example.[/QUO

I think the Stratosphere uses a smaller equivilant like a hotel. Not the equivilant of a office building to get there 110.

But even today 8 or 9 feet between floors is WAY too substandard and would be as cheap is it could possibly get. Maybe back in the 1970's and 1980's and earlier may developers have gotten away with it, especially in the project highrises where a 30 floor building can be only 250 or 260 feet or in Minneapolis the most povershed project known as the crack stacks tallest tower is 39 floors, yet only 337 feet. I'd easily say that the very lowest floor to floor height you'll see today (even for conventional/cheapest) would be 10 feet per floor, but more likely 11 feet. .

sw5710
Jul 10, 2010, 6:12 AM
[quote=sw5710;4907158]

But even today 8 or 9 feet between floors is WAY too substandard and would be as cheap is it could possibly get. Maybe back in the 1970's and 1980's and earlier may developers have gotten away with it, especially in the project highrises where a 30 floor building can be only 250 or 260 feet or in Minneapolis the most povershed project known as the crack stacks tallest tower is 39 floors, yet only 337 feet. I'd easily say that the very lowest floor to floor height you'll see today (even for conventional/cheapest) would be 10 feet per floor, but more likely 11 feet. .

vegas hotels equate to 10 + feet per floor. Put a 50 story hotel 500 + feet and a 50 story office tower 700 + feet. Most people don't know that. Will the WTC have a future hotel ?

sw5710
Jul 10, 2010, 6:29 AM
Will they lift steel on Sat?

BStyles
Jul 10, 2010, 1:36 PM
After the Marriott Hotel(3WTC) was destroyed, four new hotels sprouted up in the area. Two on Park Place(one is still in the planning stages), 123 Washington, The World Center Hotel, as well as ehe existing Marriott Hotel on West Street and the Millennium Hilton. Placing one on the WTC site would serve no purpose at all.

uaarkson
Jul 11, 2010, 1:39 AM
Assuming they don't fuck up the spire/communications ring and the cladding looks as good as it does on the renders, it'll stand toe to toe with any modern skyscraper, aesthetically speaking.

Stu
Jul 11, 2010, 1:59 AM
Assuming they don't fuck up the spire/communications ring and the cladding looks as good as it does on the renders, it'll stand toe to toe with any modern skyscraper, aesthetically speaking.

Agreed. I think Childs' work is under appreciated. It is corporate, that is certain, and doesn't have the vision of say, Rogers but I find his skyscrapers decent, with 7 WTC even excellent. This might be his best piece, considering the pressure of building the tallest building in a complex that even non skyscraper fans are watching. I feel he will not let us down, and already, I find the base, with all it's steel, pleasing.

NYguy
Jul 11, 2010, 12:34 PM
For anyone interested, the thread to rant about the new WTC designs is here...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=166333


g63marty (http://www.flickr.com/photos/g63marty/4779394543/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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Zensteeldude
Jul 11, 2010, 2:42 PM
I thought newer fireproofing used cement based material which would be weather proof.

Though cement is weather proof the fireproofing really isn't. They want to keep it dry and protected after it cures.

sw5710
Jul 11, 2010, 2:55 PM
Outer steel to start on Monday?

NY-rob-NY
Jul 11, 2010, 7:27 PM
ONE WORLD TRADE CENTER IS ON THE 29 ETAGE :banana: :notacrook: :rolleyes: :D :dancingbacon :skyscraper: :banaride: :fireworks

Yael
Jul 11, 2010, 8:28 PM
I'm Glad to know that this tower it's rising faster, but what about the
facade, I mean does anyone has seen it?

MadGnome
Jul 11, 2010, 10:52 PM
The fireproofing isn't something you can reapply every 20 years. It's not that thick and needs to be in good shape a hundred years from now. Keeping it out of the weather is a good start.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jul 12, 2010, 3:52 PM
For anyone interested, the thread to rant about the new WTC designs is here...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=166333


g63marty (http://www.flickr.com/photos/g63marty/4779394543/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4779394543_f34b49741a_o.jpg


Great update. 29 floors, I hope progress in moving on quickly so that we can expect to reach 55.60 stories at the end of this year.

BStyles
Jul 12, 2010, 5:46 PM
Both perimeter steel and core steel move up by two floors, so it's at floor 30 now.

Pictures of the blast wall. Notches in it for granite? Or stucco?:haha:
http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SAM_0050.jpg
A good amount of light passes through the notches in the wall, and at the right angle like in the renderings.
http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SAM_0044.jpg

car2004
Jul 12, 2010, 7:03 PM
Wow. Those two pictures really give you a scope of how big it really is.

Canadian_Bacon
Jul 12, 2010, 11:36 PM
^ You got that right... This building is going to be huge. Those cranes (as big as they are) look like toys.

NYguy
Jul 13, 2010, 4:24 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/realestate/commercial/bny_mellon_eyeing_wtc_CoUFVUOeCqBSElPxUcWGqL

BNY Mellon eyeing 1 WTC

By STEVE CUOZZO
July 13, 2010

Bank of New York Mellon is considering a complex, three-way real estate maneuver that would include moving part of its operations to 1 World Trade Center and selling its historic Art Deco headquarters tower at 1 Wall St., sources said.

Under the scenario now being explored, the bank -- which started life in 1784 as New York Post founder Alexander Hamilton's Bank of New York -- would take 450,000 square-feet at 1 WTC, the 1,776-foot tower the Port Authority is building at Ground Zero.

It would move the rest of its New York workforce to another building it owns, 101 Barclay St. -- a 1983 structure with 1.2 million square-feet more suited to modern office use than 1 Wall St., an Art Deco masterpiece on the corner of Broadway that opened in 1930.

Insiders confirmed that BNY Mellon has expressed interest to the PA regarding 1 WTC, but was told to hold off until the PA completes a prospective partnership deal with Douglas Durst.

Under the tentative arrangement announced last week, the Durst Organization would pay about $100 million for rights to market, lease and manage the $3.3 billion tower that's now impressively rising. Durst and the PA have about three weeks to nail down final terms.

Sources emphasized that the BNY Mellon scenario is merely in the talking stage -- "but it's a very plausible idea," a downtown insider said. "All of a sudden, with Durst involved, 1 World Trade looks like a hot commodity."

In fact, it's to the often-sluggish PA's credit that it chose so experienced and nimble a partner from an impressive field that also included Related Cos. and Boston Properties.

However preliminary BNY Mellon's thinking is regarding 1 WTC, it sounds at least as substantial as Condé Nast's alleged interest in moving there when its lease is up at Durst's 4 Times Sq. in 2019.

The landmarked 1 Wall St. is a logical candidate for residential conversion, with spectacular views up to 50 floors. It has more open views than the old AIG building at 70 Pine St., which AIG recently sold to a developer planning to convert part of the tower to apartments.

The bank did not immediately respond to a telephone message seeking comment.

Jones Lang LaSalle President Peter Riguardi, who is BNY Mellon's real estate broker and also an advisor to the PA, declined to comment, other than to say: "It's terrific that the Port under [Executive Director] Chris Ward's direction was able to come to its decision to bring in Durst from among a half-dozen great choices. It shows how much people think of this site."

The PA declined to comment on the BNY Mellon talks. Douglas Durst -- developer of 1 Bryant Park/Bank of America Tower -- would say only, "We are thrilled to be involved with 1 World Trade."

Cushman & Wakefield vice-chairman Tara Stacom, leader of a Cushman team hired by the PA in 2007 as 1 WTC's leasing agent, wouldn't say anything specific about the bank either. But she noted, "I'd say every large tenant out in the market is looking at 1 WTC, as they are at other large-block availabilities."

J.M.
Jul 13, 2010, 5:16 PM
So I made this little image thing with one side of One WTC with a bomb wall,
am I viewing how the wall would work, as in obviously you don't want the wall to fall, but it's how I see it.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4889/wtcbombwall.png

NYCLuver
Jul 13, 2010, 5:35 PM
As much as I would love BNY to go to 1 World Trade Center, its already being built!!!!

I wonder why they couldn't look at WTC 2 or 3 instead, with 450,000 sq. feet... it could be the reason to build one of the towers. I guess they wouldn't want to wait for them to be constructed because it would take a few more years after 1WTC was complete. :(

NY-rob-NY
Jul 13, 2010, 6:25 PM
:shrug: :koko: I cant understand this structural system :shrug: :koko:

BStyles
Jul 13, 2010, 8:42 PM
So I made this little image thing with one side of One WTC with a bomb wall,
am I viewing how the wall would work, as in obviously you don't want the wall to fall, but it's how I see it.


The wall has rebar in it. It's not going to fall. Even if the concrete was somehow obliterated, the rebar will stand like the perimeter columns.

Dac150
Jul 13, 2010, 10:21 PM
It’ll be interesting to see how things develop with BNY Mellon; obviously you’d like to see this headline changed and placed in the Tower 2 or 3 threads, but nonetheless you like to see these big tenants attracted to the World Trade Center in general. So, well see.

RKOwens44
Jul 13, 2010, 11:07 PM
New pic from morrongiello, flickr. The tapering of the corners is really starting to become noticable. :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4790860893_066e9cde19_b.jpg

Zensteeldude
Jul 13, 2010, 11:12 PM
Both perimeter steel and core steel move up by two floors, so it's at floor 30 now.

Pictures of the blast wall. Notches in it for granite? Or stucco?:haha:
http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/SAM_0050.jpg.



Those are Halfen channels for anchoring the stone cladding.

http://www.halfenusa.com/technical02_intro01.html

All the protection walls well have them, as well as many of the MEP shafts.

Dac150
Jul 13, 2010, 11:18 PM
New pic from morrongiello, flickr. The tapering of the corners is really starting to become noticable. :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4790860893_066e9cde19_b.jpg

Was this steel put in place today?

Zensteeldude
Jul 13, 2010, 11:19 PM
So I made this little image thing with one side of One WTC with a bomb wall,
am I viewing how the wall would work, as in obviously you don't want the wall to fall, but it's how I see it.


There is one problem with your interpretation, it does not take into account the tensile strength of the massive amounts of rebar in the wall. Also, the wall is anchored to the underside of the third floor.

One more thing, the technical term for it is "caging". The rebar forms a cage around the concrete so even if the concrete shatters into a billion bits the caging holds it all together and the wall still stands.

The only flaw I can find in the protection walls is anti-spall protection. It can be seen in many areas of the Tower, for example the under side of the plaza slab and many of the MEP shafts. But I do not see any on the protected side of the the protection walls.
Here is an example of anti-spall protection on one of the below grade level slabs. (What I call a "Pinhead Plate")
Photo by Joe Woolhead.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__LTbulstB24/SQiyPEhOTLI/AAAAAAAABEE/7RO3pMgpvj0/s1600/IMG_9902.JPG

The North One
Jul 14, 2010, 12:07 AM
New pic from morrongiello, flickr. The tapering of the corners is really starting to become noticable. :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4790860893_066e9cde19_b.jpg

wow, the lobby looks so cramped and tiny, how are they going to fit people in there? not to mention a front desk.

i miss the open window look of the old WTC, it was so nice:(

RKOwens44
Jul 14, 2010, 12:08 AM
Dac150, most of it yes.

TheNorthOne, there will be plenty of room for front desks (there will be two of them). The lobby won't be as open and spacious as the original Twin Towers, but that's mainly due to the new safety features that make this building much safer than the original Twin Towers, like the blast wall in the photo above and stairwells on each corner of the building. Also, it's just on this one building. Towers 2, 3, 4 (and presumably 5) will all have much larger lobbies with much more sunlight pouring into them.

sbarn
Jul 14, 2010, 1:14 AM
Was this steel put in place today?

Yes. I walked by there today.

kenratboy
Jul 14, 2010, 2:36 AM
So excited, I'll be there this weekend! I am glad there is some heft to it, so I will have something pleasing to look at.

uaarkson
Jul 14, 2010, 2:18 PM
Dac150, most of it yes.

TheNorthOne, there will be plenty of room for front desks (there will be two of them). The lobby won't be as open and spacious as the original Twin Towers, but that's mainly due to the new safety features that make this building much safer than the original Twin Towers, like the blast wall in the photo above and stairwells on each corner of the building. Also, it's just on this one building. Towers 2, 3, 4 (and presumably 5) will all have much larger lobbies with much more sunlight pouring into them.

Yup. It's actually much more open than it looks in the photographs (there were some closeups of the base a few pages back that give a better sense of scale; it's massive).

In addition to this, lack of space/sunlight in the base is made up for by the fact that the entire tower is clad in glass that will allow sunlight to enter the entirety of each office floor. Something the Twins did not have. ;)

kenratboy
Jul 15, 2010, 3:40 AM
When the first WTC was being built, I would bet the foreman would have just shoveled it into a dump truck. Now they will at least have someone worthy check it out and do something productive if warranted.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jul 15, 2010, 2:40 PM
Webcam Update from wtcprogress.com, taken a few moments ago:

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

Bucktown718
Jul 15, 2010, 3:32 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4793321752_33d3304092_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4793320648_0c056334a9_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4792685355_36b5b31972_b.jpg
Pasa la vida (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46999807@N03/)

steveve
Jul 15, 2010, 5:01 PM
Beautiful shots ^^^

Lower manhattan has never looked better :D! :cheers:

RoldanTTLB
Jul 15, 2010, 5:51 PM
Nice shots. Unfortunately they highlight how awful greenwich south is, and how badly they should deck and build over the tunnel approach. I'll never quite understand why it didn't line up with West street in the first place. Maybe moving it and just building on those blocks would be better.

NY-rob-NY
Jul 15, 2010, 6:32 PM
this picture is verry nice.but lower manhatten has been better bevor 9/11:( :)

CSABA8
Jul 15, 2010, 8:39 PM
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What an amazing pictures...i just can't wait years to see all tower finished (someone have a time machine ? :))

Firefightersfla
Jul 15, 2010, 8:59 PM
Incredible shots of Manhattan!!

NYguy
Jul 16, 2010, 1:43 PM
morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4790860893/sizes/l/) (July 13)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4790860893_066e9cde19.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4790860893_066e9cde19_b.jpg

canadate
Jul 16, 2010, 1:56 PM
Here's some that I took yesterday. And no, that epic shot that I was talking about isn't there yet. lol >> http://s973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/canadate/One%20World%20Trade%20Center-%20July%2015th%202010/ By the way, those shots that Bucktown718 post were epic! I don't know if I can top shots from a helicopter!

NYguy
Jul 16, 2010, 1:57 PM
carolvinzant (http://www.flickr.com/photos/animaltourism/4797778456/sizes/l/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4797778456_90c414a6e7_b.jpg


bgreenber (http://www.flickr.com/photos/familygreenberg/4797801667/sizes/l/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4797801667_2f4b09bed4_b.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4797801667_7497c43b49_o.jpg

2-TOWERS
Jul 16, 2010, 2:57 PM
great shots...first time you can see the blast wall on the north side........30 floors up........:)

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jul 16, 2010, 2:59 PM
Great shots! The steel looks very massive!

westmc9th
Jul 16, 2010, 4:02 PM
That new crane is coming. New updates provided by the port authority.
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/pdf/June2010-WTC-Progress-Newsletter.pdf
World Trade Center Progress
June 2010
One WTC Update
Built With Their Hands

• The innovative “cocoon” system, a safety feature
that protects the workers and public at
ground level from materials that may accidentally
fall from construction floors, envelopes the
building on all four sides.

• More than 6,000 pieces of superstructure steel
have been installed to date. Concrete work has
significantly accelerated.• The number of workers laboring daily to build
the tower, already in the hundreds, is increasing
as more trades are mobilized.

• Preparation is under way for material hoists to
the top of the tower. Large elevators will be installed
on the east and west sides of the building;
some will carry workers to the top, while others
will be reserved for materials and equipment.

• Fuel cells will be delivered to the site in early
summer. Fuel cells are essentially boxes that take
liquid natural gas and, through a chemical reaction,
release electricity and heat (for hot water)
that will be used in the finished building.

• A new climbing crawler crane is scheduled to
arrive over the summer.

brian.odonnell20
Jul 16, 2010, 5:29 PM
if one new office floor were added to 1 wtc per week till the end of the year, it would be at the 57th floor. :tup:

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jul 16, 2010, 7:20 PM
if one new office floor were added to 1 wtc per week till the end of the year, it would be at the 57th floor. :tup:

Correct. They plan to reach the stories 55-60 at the end of this year.

:previous: I thought there will be no further tower crane?

hunser
Jul 16, 2010, 8:24 PM
wow, great shots everyone! 30th floor and going ... 1WTC is rising! :cheers:

Zensteeldude
Jul 16, 2010, 9:40 PM
LOL, do a Google search for "climbing crawler crane ". 2 hits ! The PA website and WNY.:haha:

OK, 3 hits, this forum is the third.

Someone at the PA has no idea what they are typing about. I'm pretty sure they are referring to an external climbing crane.

http://www.nps.gov/jeff/planyourvisit/images/archslideshow.gif

patriotizzy
Jul 16, 2010, 10:00 PM
That new crane is coming. New updates provided by the port authority.
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/pdf/June2010-WTC-Progress-Newsletter.pdf
World Trade Center Progress
June 2010
One WTC Update
Built With Their Hands

• The innovative “cocoon” system, a safety feature
that protects the workers and public at
ground level from materials that may accidentally
fall from construction floors, envelopes the
building on all four sides.

• More than 6,000 pieces of superstructure steel
have been installed to date. Concrete work has
significantly accelerated.• The number of workers laboring daily to build
the tower, already in the hundreds, is increasing
as more trades are mobilized.

• Preparation is under way for material hoists to
the top of the tower. Large elevators will be installed
on the east and west sides of the building;
some will carry workers to the top, while others
will be reserved for materials and equipment.

• Fuel cells will be delivered to the site in early
summer. Fuel cells are essentially boxes that take
liquid natural gas and, through a chemical reaction,
release electricity and heat (for hot water)
that will be used in the finished building.

• A new climbing crawler crane is scheduled to
arrive over the summer.

That's the kind of progress I wanted to see since they proposed the new WTC!

NYguy
Jul 17, 2010, 12:30 PM
Making a surprise appearance in this pan...

Wats2U (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wats2u/4800220987/sizes/o/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4800220987_3ac10146f4_o.jpg

Han
Jul 17, 2010, 3:03 PM
I love this city!

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jul 17, 2010, 3:13 PM
:previous: Wonderfull shot, NYGuy!

Bucktown718
Jul 17, 2010, 5:59 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4802213852_a9e5ceffc7_o.jpg
roccocell (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roccocell/)

Bucktown718
Jul 17, 2010, 6:11 PM
Here's one more taken By GreenwichBoy, WNY
Just to see how really big the steel is actually compared to grown size humans
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10024&d=1279377616
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10025&d=1279377620

Firefightersfla
Jul 17, 2010, 8:19 PM
NYguy, that pic was incredible!!

NY-rob-NY
Jul 17, 2010, 8:39 PM
i hope , than the wtc is finished in 2013 . :shrug: :shrug:


San fransisco-new york=best cities in the world:cheers: :cheers:

brian.odonnell20
Jul 17, 2010, 8:48 PM
The higher this tower gets, the more faith people are starting to get back in this. And not just citizens; people as in companies renewing leases and equity firms and newspaper journalists and news reporters. By the end of this year, 1 wtc is going to be part of the skyline, and the naysayers are gonna be out of jobs.
:notacrook:

Kamatzu
Jul 17, 2010, 9:02 PM
grown size humans
I lol'd.

Great pics.

Bucktown718
Jul 18, 2010, 4:44 AM
@Kamatzu lol i know, i lol'd to my self after i submitted the post and then read it again

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4802296541_90083fea3a_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4802267603_fa2339f1df_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/4802288453_6fb4f0eb8d_b.jpg
AMRosario (http://www.flickr.com/photos/amrosario/)

NY-rob-NY
Jul 18, 2010, 11:21 AM
cool.great shoots.in this picture you can see, then the wtc is very big and high.:tup: :tup: :banana:

NY-rob-NY
Jul 18, 2010, 11:25 AM
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/live-camera.html

JSsocal
Jul 18, 2010, 2:35 PM
http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg

There ya go

patriotizzy
Jul 18, 2010, 11:24 PM
How many floors is it at?

NYguy
Jul 18, 2010, 11:51 PM
A few pics from yesterday. I'll post more later...

JULY 17, 2010

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126628722/large.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126628746/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126628771/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126628902/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126628924/large.jpg

6.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126628933/large.jpg

7.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126628948/large.jpg

8.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126629017/large.jpg

9.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126629081/large.jpg

10.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126631352/large.jpg

11.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126631452/large.jpg

12.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126631639/large.jpg

13.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126631682/large.jpg

14.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126631853/large.jpg

15.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126631913/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126631452/original.jpg

xnyr
Jul 19, 2010, 1:48 AM
A few pics from yesterday. I'll post more later...





Thanks for the new pics, NYGuy....

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/126629017/large.jpg

Been wondering about these external staging platforms as I have not seen these used before (tho I do see them on the Beekman tower)

Is this a relatively new technique... is there really that much of a benefit to them as opposed to delivering materials directly to the floor under construction?

uaarkson
Jul 19, 2010, 3:16 AM
Uh, what? Every U/C skyscraper is gonna have one of those.

NY-rob-NY
Jul 19, 2010, 10:43 AM
thanks NYGuy for this great pics.at someone picture you can see , then high the wtc is in reality.( ::tup:

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jul 19, 2010, 1:43 PM
Great shots NYGuy! This tower is simply amazing!

Webcam update from wtcprogress.com

http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg