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CClaudio21

Sep 7, 2011, 9:17 PM

still rainy and very foggy but i finally got a shot and as you can see nothing has been erected on top.... :( damn rain

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I have faith! :) At least one lonely column. Lol

Davidsam52

Sep 7, 2011, 11:04 PM

I have faith! :) At least one lonely column. Lol

Whoa! Talk about a lowwwwwww ceiling! :stunned::stunned::stunned:

TBone7281

Sep 8, 2011, 2:20 AM

Just a friendly reminder, don't forget NOVA's "Engineering Ground Zero" airs tonight Sept 7th at 9pm et on PBS(see preview above) looks like a cool show.

After watching the show, I was excited to hear that PPG was making the cladding for the base. They're headquartered in Pittsburgh and it was always one of my favorite buildings growing up:

http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/pittsburgh12.jpg

So of course I was then a little saddened to hear that they couldn't figure out a way to make the prism glass work. The description in the skyscraperpage db still says
The base of the tower, which was originally to be clad in polished steel and titanium like 7 WTC, will now be covered in vertical bands of glass prisms.

Have there been any announcements or ideas put forward about what they are going to use now, or are they still undecided per the end of "Engineering Ground Zero"?

marshall

Sep 8, 2011, 3:48 AM

After watching the show, I was excited to hear that PPG was making the cladding for the base. They're headquartered in Pittsburgh and it was always one of my favorite buildings growing up:

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So of course I was then a little saddened to hear that they couldn't figure out a way to make the prism glass work. The description in the skyscraperpage db still says

Have there been any announcements or ideas put forward about what they are going to use now, or are they still undecided per the end of "Engineering Ground Zero"?

I liked the idea of the prism glass for the base (top 20 stories) to give it a more open feeling. I noticed that the concrete has openings to allow light in, but it seemed that the prism glass idea was too hard to execute. I wonder what alternative solution they will come up with! Seems like it will have to be a very heavy duty type of glass.

STR

Sep 8, 2011, 4:47 AM

Have there been any announcements or ideas put forward about what they are going to use now, or are they still undecided per the end of "Engineering Ground Zero"?

They're going with glass fins. Something like the image below. Note: this a photo of another project, it is not a mockup of 1WTC. As of last report they're soliciting bids and doing testing.
http://www.145hudson.com/penthouse/images/glass/glass02.jpg
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animatedmartian

Sep 8, 2011, 5:33 AM

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NYguy

Sep 8, 2011, 5:57 AM

They're going with glass fins. Something like the image below.

And supposedly the fins will go in different directions. It will be interesting to see what they do here.

Yankee fan for life

Sep 8, 2011, 9:24 AM

http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2011/09/ten_years_on_world_trade_cente.html

animatedmartian

Sep 8, 2011, 9:59 AM

New York prepares for 10th anniversary of 9/11

http://photos.oregonlive.com/photo-essay/2011/09/new_york_prepares_for_10th_ann.html

Photo credit: AP/Seth Wenig

http://media.oregonlive.com/oregonian/photo/2011/09/-7ea5be27c7ea1ab8.JPG

Yankee fan for life

Sep 8, 2011, 1:06 PM

Did they at lest deck the floors?

NYguy

Sep 8, 2011, 1:38 PM

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mac78130

Sep 8, 2011, 2:35 PM

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Traynor

Sep 8, 2011, 3:03 PM

Did they at lest deck the floors?

Looking at the Oxblue webcam this morning, it doesn't look like they have yet.

Link: Here (http://oxblue.com/pro/open/panynj/wtc)

However, it seems they have gone back to the Red, White and Blue night-lighting effect for 9/11, as they had for July 4th.

http://i.imgur.com/bvOOH.jpg (http://imgur.com/bvOOH)
(Screen capture form KPI TV HD webcam found Here (http://www.video-monitoring.com/construction/kpitv/silver.htm) )

Onn

Sep 8, 2011, 8:35 PM

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CarlosV

Sep 8, 2011, 9:51 PM

As you can see NOTHING was erected again on top....3 days to go...

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Kevin Scott Koepke

Sep 8, 2011, 10:01 PM

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SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Sep 8, 2011, 10:24 PM

Guys.....why do you hate me and all the other moderators? Stop arguing about irrelevant dumb shit so i dont have to keep cleaning up. If you must attack each other use the PM system,thats why its there.Thanks......

As for Tower one reaching over 1000 feet by the tenth anniversary,I'm doubtful. We shouldn't anticipate it if they haven't even laid down the decking yet.

CarlosV

Sep 8, 2011, 10:55 PM

:iagree:

We are all very passionate about this project otherwise why be here? but let's be polite and respect others!

I think they might just do it tomorrow or Saturday!! (add more steel)

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this took only 3 days!

August 01, 2011

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August 02, 2011

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August 05, 2011

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August 06, 2011

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bunky

Sep 9, 2011, 12:39 AM

http://benjaminrosamond.com/r1315528651/cc/8/0/3/12803/w/984x588-iZ2NsooiSXRpDRbB.jpg

http://benjaminrosamond.com/section/211801_WTC.html

Otie

Sep 9, 2011, 12:42 AM

WTC Progress (https://www.facebook.com/wtcprogress)

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CarlosV

Sep 9, 2011, 1:15 AM

This will be the last time I ever see this....(the light tribute will end this year) :(

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CoolCzech

Sep 9, 2011, 1:23 AM

Hey, what's going on with the FT's base? Looks like they are getting down to the business of cladding it... with something. Has anyone seen any new design?

CarlosV

Sep 9, 2011, 1:25 AM

thousands of feet into the sky!!!

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upnotout

Sep 9, 2011, 1:44 AM

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I'm confused by these photos. WTC1 is right next to the old Twin Towers. Why are the lights so far away from WTC1 in these photos??

CarlosV

Sep 9, 2011, 1:51 AM

^^^
they are located south of WTC site...on the rooftop of the Battery Parking Garage about 4 blocks south

why are they so far away? who knows
mailonline
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SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Sep 9, 2011, 2:01 AM

I'm confused by these photos. WTC1 is right next to the old Twin Towers. Why are the lights so far away from WTC1 in these photos??

The lights sit atop of a parking Garage that leads to the entrance of the battery tunnel on West Street.

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http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp1ycrZhgh1qa14mdo1_400.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp1ycrZhgh1qa14mdo1_400.jpg

http://a.images.blip.tv/Tvjersey-AssemblingTheTributeInLight716.jpg
http://a.images.blip.tv/Tvjersey-AssemblingTheTributeInLight716.jpg

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/42-17307200.jpg?size=67&uid=125fdfd1-7dd8-4171-94ae-4794bfbb77f8http://www.corbisimages.com/images/42-17307200.jpg?size=67&uid=125fdfd1-7dd8-4171-94ae-4794bfbb77f8

http://www.luvscreations.com/america/citylightstowers2.jpg
http://www.luvscreations.com/america/citylightstowers2.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/21312033/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/21312033/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/aprettypixel/image/49169494/original.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/aprettypixel/image/49169494/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/aprettypixel/image/49201593/original.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/aprettypixel/image/49201593/original.jpg

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NYguy

Sep 9, 2011, 2:36 AM

why are they so far away? who knows

They were originally on the site of what is now the Goldman Sachs tower, so they had to be moved to a suitable location. The Freedom Tower will have a more permanent light show when it is completed.

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Roadcruiser1

Sep 9, 2011, 3:05 AM

Now that the WTC Memorial is almost complete why don't they move the lights there so it would meet the alignment of the original Twin Towers, and be the same in dimensions too.

TBone7281

Sep 9, 2011, 3:11 AM

Now that the WTC Memorial is almost complete why don't they move the lights there so it would meet the alignment of the original Twin Towers, and be the same in dimensions too.

I seriously doubt there is any room at the memorial to put them. Don't forget the space is full of trees... and 2 acres of waterfall/fountain.

Not to mention they will need all the space they can get for the opening this weekend.

george

Sep 9, 2011, 3:23 AM

animatedmartian

Sep 9, 2011, 4:42 AM

A video that was obviously made before the tarp (right word?) was put over the base. The view straight up reminded me of one of STR's renders. :D

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http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1815/n89hd.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5119195&postcount=110

sterlippo1

Sep 9, 2011, 10:23 AM

The lights sit atop of a parking Garage that leads to the entrance of the battery tunnel on West Street.

http://a.images.blip.tv/Tvjersey-AssemblingTheTributeInLight716.jpg

what'd the white tent thing ?

sterlippo1

Sep 9, 2011, 10:25 AM

what's the white bubble/tent thing between the lights on the 5th pic above on SSNY's post?

CarlosV

Sep 9, 2011, 11:06 AM

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CarlosV

Sep 9, 2011, 11:09 AM

a beautiful sight!

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2-TOWERS

Sep 9, 2011, 1:56 PM

carlos looking at your great pics from your penthouse you shpuld be seeing glass about 8 more floors....hopefully we will see a verticle beam or two today or tomm..

animatedmartian

Sep 9, 2011, 1:59 PM

Looks like the construction workers are having a ceremony.

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CarlosV

Sep 9, 2011, 3:01 PM

carlos looking at your great pics from your penthouse you shpuld be seeing glass about 8 more floors....hopefully we will see a verticle beam or two today or tomm..

well its almost 11am and nada :(

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animatedmartian

Sep 9, 2011, 3:34 PM

WTC's Twitter says they won't be doing any construction on 9/11. Didn't say about how long before or how long afterwards though. :shrug: Seen workers putting up window panels on the webcams today. I'm starting to assume they'll wait until the day after 9/11 to start putting up beams.

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OptimumPx

Sep 9, 2011, 3:39 PM

After all that work and effort to reach 1,000 ft by 9/11, and to stop so close... :shrug:

Traynor

Sep 9, 2011, 3:52 PM

After all that work and effort to reach 1,000 ft by 9/11, and to stop so close... :shrug:

Just a thought... All along they wanted to be above 1000 feet by 9/11/11. When the poor weather conditions over the last year made that goal impossible (and yet they were so close), they may have held back the last couple of days so they could, on Sunday, have a ceremonial lifting of the column that surpasses 1000 feet.

Just a thought

:cheers:

uaarkson

Sep 9, 2011, 4:16 PM

There's still tomorrow folks (yes, steel has been put up on weekends before). If you see nothing by this time tomorrow it's a pretty sure deal.

marshall

Sep 9, 2011, 4:51 PM

During some TV liveshots of the site this morning, there was a lot of activity in the background, so who knows, they might lift the symbolic beam up before 9/11! Still time now that the crappy weather has broken

Kevin Scott Koepke

Sep 9, 2011, 4:59 PM

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CarlosV

Sep 9, 2011, 5:10 PM

i guess all hope is not lost..this is happening right now!!

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net222

Sep 9, 2011, 5:22 PM

CarlosV

Sep 9, 2011, 5:40 PM

Alpha Sky

Sep 9, 2011, 5:46 PM

Check out the latest article by By Matt Chaban entitled, Lightning Strikes 1 World Trade Center! Making Room for Rods, Tower Will Be Taller Than 1,776 Feet in the New York Observer.

"An eagle-eyed contributor at the Skyscraper Page noted that this could actually push the tower to 1,787 feet" Cool! And, "First, the height of the tower is being measured from the midway point of the ground floor, not one side or the other."... "That means the new height would only be 1,784 feet. Second, and more importantly, the lightning rod has not even been designed yet. It could be two feet tall or eleven feet, one rod or a dozen."

Its cool that our forum initiated this re-evaluation!.

http://www.observer.com/2011/09/lightning-strikes-1-world-trade-center-making-room-for-rods-tower-will-be-taller-than-1776-feet/

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Sep 9, 2011, 6:19 PM

Guys take it easy,its a supertall we should be happy with that alone. Pffff who cares about reaching the quadruple digits. 300 meters has been successfully surpassed.

bobdreamz

Sep 9, 2011, 6:25 PM

it's just nice to see a building there instead of two BLUE beams of light on the 9/11 anniversary.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Sep 9, 2011, 6:42 PM

Tower one will be a bit taller

Lightning Strikes 1 World Trade Center! Making Room for Rods, Tower Will Be Taller Than 1,776 Feet
By Matt Chaban 12:37pm

Whether poetic, patriotic or pathetic, Daniel Liebeskind’s plan to render the height of 1 World Trade Center at 1,776 feet—a nod to our nation’s declaration of independence—was one of the most remarked upon pieces of his plan for the project. In fact, after Skidmore Owings & Merrill took over the design from Mr. Liebeskind, who is now merely the master planner, about the only element of his design that remained at 1 World Trade was that the top of the tower would reach 1,362, the same as the original towers, and it would have a spire climbing further to that symbolic height of 1,776 feet.

It turns out the tower will be even taller, and we have Mother Nature to thank for that.

The World Trade Center is Now Totally Above Ground >>

A diagram for the 400-foot aerial appendage appeared in Architectural Record last week, and it showed an eight-foot protrusion atop the antenna. According to a source working at the site, it is a lightning rod. “There is a sense a lighting strike could be huge, so we have to protect against that,” this person said. Indeed, lightning has been an issue for decades at the Empire State Building.

Eight extra feet. (Architectural Record)
An eagle-eyed contributor at the Skyscraper Page noted that this could actually push the tower to 1,787 feet, if measured from the north side of the building. For the history buffs, that would be an equally or even more significant historical date: the creation of the U.S. Constitution. But our source said that would likely not be the case for two reasons.

First, the height of the tower is being measured from the midway point of the ground floor, not one side or the other. This was the point chosen by the designers because “we had to pick something,” the source said, not only to get the building built but for the purposes of having it measured by the Council of Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, which is the official arbiter of building heights worldwide. That means the new height would only be 1,784 feet. Second, and more importantly, the lightning rod has not even been designed yet. It could be two feet tall or eleven feet, one rod or a dozen.

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Still, according to our source, even from a bird’s eye view, the lightning rod (or rods) would be all but imperceptible, lost in the scale of the spire and likely obscured by the flashing of an FAA-mandated warning light. “The sense is those things are so fine, you don’t even perceive them,” the source said.

As for that FAA beacon, it will be perched at the very top of the antenna proper—at a height of 1,776 feet. Call it the Beacon of Independence

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http://www.observer.com/2011/09/lightning-strikes-1-world-trade-center-making-room-for-rods-tower-will-be-taller-than-1776-feet/

changing the titles height.

jigglysquishy

Sep 9, 2011, 6:47 PM

So, we famous now?

Don098

Sep 9, 2011, 6:53 PM

We famous alright. We excited. We so exciteddd..

RockMont

Sep 9, 2011, 6:55 PM

After all that work and effort to reach 1,000 ft by 9/11, and to stop so close... :shrug:

The most important thing is that they take their time and do it right. Haste makes waste.

marshall

Sep 9, 2011, 7:03 PM

jthornton17

Sep 9, 2011, 7:49 PM

Does anyone know why the old communications ring( A design I found so cool and awesome looking in all the renders) was changed? I've also seen a lot of different renders at night of the spire. Does anyone know will the entire spire be lit at night?

steveve

Sep 9, 2011, 8:13 PM

Now that the WTC Memorial is almost complete why don't they move the lights there so it would meet the alignment of the original Twin Towers, and be the same in dimensions too.

i posted the same on the Memorial thread.... and yes, i think it would be great to install the lights on the memorials themselves...

SkyscrapersOfNewYork

Sep 9, 2011, 8:49 PM

i posted the same on the Memorial thread.... and yes, i think it would be great to install the lights on the memorials themselves...

while i think that would look amazing i can see potential problems....such as blinding people looking directly into the memorial pools.

Lecom

Sep 9, 2011, 8:51 PM

A slightly outdated video, yet it shows how the WTC will impact the skyline when seen from New Jersey

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A zoomed in version of the video above

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Another somewhat outdated video that nevertheless provides an overview of the construction site; an ongoing concert at the Winter Garden provided a nice soundtrack

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NewYorkSkyline117

Sep 9, 2011, 9:41 PM

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10 Year Anniversary, One World Trade Center at the top of the picture.

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Sep 9, 2011, 10:00 PM

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It DOES appear they are preparing to lift....something! :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:

jd3189

Sep 9, 2011, 10:06 PM

Tower one will be a bit taller

http://www.observer.com/files/2011/09/45473940.jpg
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http://www.observer.com/2011/09/lightning-strikes-1-world-trade-center-making-room-for-rods-tower-will-be-taller-than-1776-feet/

changing the titles height.

Thank you. The is the best news I've seen all day.

Lecom

Sep 9, 2011, 10:34 PM

One World Trade Center in September 2011

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CoolCzech

Sep 9, 2011, 11:46 PM

Isn't it a bit early to list the height as 1,787, when the lightning rod hasn't even been designed yet? And does a lightning rod count towards height, anyway?

Matt

Sep 10, 2011, 12:07 AM

Isn't it a bit early to list the height as 1,787, when the lightning rod hasn't even been designed yet? And does a lightning rod count towards height, anyway?

I agree - someone was a little quick with the trigger to change the title of this thread. While I am all for the height of the building being raised (I would even support 1WTC reclaiming the world's tallest title), changing the height in the title of this thread is dumb for many reasons:

1. The rod hasn't even been designed yet, the height could change.
2. The rod may or may not be recognized by the CTBUH.
3. The symbolic height of this tower was, is, and will ALWAYS be 1,776' in the minds of people around the world. The building will market itself as 1,776' in all media, brochure and publications. People around the world will recognize this tower as 1,776'. No one cares about an 8' lightning rod that is too thin to see.
4. This tower is 1,776'. Period. This shouldn't even be debated, and changing the thread title was premature. Talk about jumping the gun.

*Edit: And as for the CTBUH, I have a feeling they will go with 1,776' because this is the *official* and *symbolic* height of the tower that EVERYONE is using, from the developers to the general public.

CalibratedZeus

Sep 10, 2011, 12:10 AM

It DOES appear they are preparing to lift....something! :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:

Has anyone thought that perhaps they are going to be lifting the next section on Sunday? As a sort of symbolic hitting the 1000 foot mark on the 10th anniversary? Would be pretty cool.

WTCguy

Sep 10, 2011, 12:20 AM

Has anyone thought that perhaps they are going to be lifting the next section on Sunday? As a sort of symbolic hitting the 1000 foot mark on the 10th anniversary? Would be pretty cool.

I think they're stopping construction on Sunday.

Davidsam52

Sep 10, 2011, 1:12 AM

I think they're stopping construction on Sunday.

If they do erect anything at all it will have to be tomorrow as indeed construction will stop on Sunday. Personally I'm hoping for that single column like we've seen in the past on several lifts, only this time the column will have a big ol' glory attached to it!!:multibow

NYguy

Sep 10, 2011, 1:16 AM

Isn't it a bit early to list the height as 1,787, when the lightning rod hasn't even been designed yet? And does a lightning rod count towards height, anyway?

Pinnacle height is a different height altogether when determining official heights.

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KevinFromTexas

Sep 10, 2011, 2:42 AM

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NewYorkSkyline117

Sep 10, 2011, 2:44 AM

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One World Trade Center 30 Miles Away at Night-Morristown, New Jersey

Traynor

Sep 10, 2011, 3:05 AM

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Sep 10, 2011, 3:51 AM

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Sep 10, 2011, 5:03 AM

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jthornton17

Sep 10, 2011, 5:27 AM

It's interesting that along with 1WTC having the Red, White and Blue for 9/11, for the first time, number 4WTC is joining in and getting the coloured lights too.

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(Screen capture from KPI TV HD webcam found Here (http://www.video-monitoring.com/construction/kpitv/silver.htm) )

OH WOW! That's the first time i've seen the fountains lit up. They have an eternal like glow to them. That's just amazing. I think the place is more amazing at night.

NYguy

Sep 10, 2011, 6:15 AM

OH WOW! That's the first time i've seen the fountains lit up. They have an eternal like glow to them. That's just amazing. I think the place is more amazing at night.

Check the memorial thread to see what's going on there.

JoePDX

Sep 10, 2011, 6:38 AM

I think they're stopping construction on Sunday.

I dont get it. Why is it so "cool" or "important" that it hits 1000 ft on sept 11? why not 1100 ft or 950 ft?

Pizzuti

Sep 10, 2011, 6:38 AM

I just heard that they're scrapping the idea of prism glass for the base because they couldn't make it shatter-resistant.

I'm sure I'm pretty far behind on that news. But does anyone know if there's a new idea yet?

Brian Dino Vabec

Sep 10, 2011, 9:16 AM

September 9th, ZippyTheChimp, WNY..

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sterlippo1

Sep 10, 2011, 10:20 AM

If they do erect anything at all it will have to be tomorrow as indeed construction will stop on Sunday. Personally I'm hoping for that single column like we've seen in the past on several lifts, only this time the column will have a big ol' glory attached to it!!:multibow

i like that idea:tup:

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Sep 10, 2011, 11:19 AM

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Sep 10, 2011, 12:45 PM

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Sep 10, 2011, 12:53 PM

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NYguy

Sep 10, 2011, 1:05 PM

I dont get it. Why is it so "cool" or "important" that it hits 1000 ft on sept 11? why not 1100 ft or 950 ft?

If you're on a skyscraper forum, you should know that 1,000 ft is the "magical" number that separates skyscrapers from "ordinary" skyscrapers in the minds of many. Having the floors of this tower reach that number is symbolic for various reasons.

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Sep 10, 2011, 1:20 PM

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Troubadour

Sep 10, 2011, 4:14 PM

it's just nice to see a building there instead of two BLUE beams of light on the 9/11 anniversary.

What's wrong with blue? :sly:

QUEENSNYMAN

Sep 10, 2011, 5:01 PM

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2ybiJwPrVo

NYC4Life

Sep 10, 2011, 5:27 PM

Construction on the entire WTC site is schedule to come to a halt at 3PM this afternoon ahead of tomorrow's anniversary and for the stepped up security measures.

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Sep 10, 2011, 5:51 PM

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The Grand Architect

Sep 10, 2011, 6:42 PM

For anyone wondering how much this Tower has grown in the past year....

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pattali

Sep 10, 2011, 7:06 PM

Congrats to my fellows NewYorkers and everyone for this special day, now WTC1 reach 1000 ft and remembrance is like construction, and for ever and ever I congratulate all workers by the site. God bless America and all of you. 10 years ago ....

CarlosV

Sep 10, 2011, 7:07 PM

huge fire right now at Met Life building!!!!
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=193783

i guess it didnt happen nothing erected on top....3:19pm...

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Sep 10, 2011, 7:42 PM

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Sep 10, 2011, 8:04 PM

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elysium

Sep 10, 2011, 8:40 PM

Can someone tell me what the topmost floors on 1WTC will be used for? It looks like there's so much unoccupied space up there... like 30 floors worth.

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Sep 10, 2011, 9:43 PM

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Fury

Sep 10, 2011, 11:55 PM

Hi all.

I agree - someone was a little quick with the trigger to change the title of this thread. While I am all for the height of the building being raised (I would even support 1WTC reclaiming the world's tallest title), changing the height in the title of this thread is dumb for many reasons:

1. The rod hasn't even been designed yet, the height could change.
2. The rod may or may not be recognized by the CTBUH.
3. The symbolic height of this tower was, is, and will ALWAYS be 1,776' in the minds of people around the world. The building will market itself as 1,776' in all media, brochure and publications. People around the world will recognize this tower as 1,776'. No one cares about an 8' lightning rod that is too thin to see.
4. This tower is 1,776'. Period. This shouldn't even be debated, and changing the thread title was premature. Talk about jumping the gun.

*Edit: And as for the CTBUH, I have a feeling they will go with 1,776' because this is the *official* and *symbolic* height of the tower that EVERYONE is using, from the developers to the general public.

Hi Matt.

The CTBUH has strict guidelines that they follow. The question is whether the rod is a permanent part of the structure or not. STR has the opinion it is permanent but if it a lightning rod I'm not sure there are any examples where the council considered it permanent. I don't know for sure on that one. The spire drawing in question shows the rod as 8 feet high.

The other thing is the lowest entrance (on the North side) is 3 feet lower (than the average ground level height the plans use) and if it fits the criteria (and it looks likely) for the council to start their measurements there then the height is 1779 not 1776. This happens regularly. As the planners said "they had to pick a number" (as 0.00 elevation for the plans) then, when the council looks at it they use "the lowest, significant, open air, pedestrian entrance".

1 - The rod is considered permanent - Both the height to arch. top and the height to tip measures will be the same at 1787 feet.
2 - The rod isn't considered permanent - The height to arch. top will be 1779 feet and the height to tip will be 1787 feet.

IMO the 1776 wasn't in the picture from the start, knowing how the planners picked their 0.00 starting elevation.

:cheers:
Ray.