NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[Traynor]

Yes STR, that is more like what I was anticipating for the base..

It sure will be nice when this "Oil Refinery-like" portion of the tower is clad with that prismatic glass.

[Zensteeldude]

Yeah, the official renders just show giant holes in the facade. Literally, glass stops, the floor is open to the world. Which...is nothing I've ever seen on a building. I can see practical problems with random objects (like birds) even at that height. Plus, it just seems like an unnecessary safety hazard when someone has to go in and check the exhausts/intakes/whatever is up there.

The vents on the mechanical floors near the top of the tower are done just like the base, stainless steel grating behind the glass but wider spacing on the glass panels. (The grating keeps the birds out.)

There is a louver wall about 4 feet behind the curtain wall/ cladding so it would be imposable for someone to actually fall through the vent openings in the exterior cladding, if they could even get to them. There are all kinds of plenums conectiong to the louver wall.

[westmc9th]

Is there some sheet on the new glass or are they just installing every other piece currently? Guess it's just me (or maybe the camera), but the pieces don't seem to match. Hope someone here will get some clear shots up today :)

it looks more like they are doing every other panel, look at this picture and you will see like a "placeholder: similar in size to the piece of glass next to it (near the elevator)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54734589@N00/5182648070/in/photostream/

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11429&d=1289945720

[rjb001]

Will construction speed up as the building gets higher? The floor area's getting smaller as it goes up, so wouldn't it make sense that it only gets faster?

[eaguir3]

it gets annoying when people repeat the same questions

[STR]

One more, since everyone liked the first two so much.

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6320/tada03.jpg

The vents on the mechanical floors near the top of the tower are done just like the base, stainless steel grating behind the glass but wider spacing on the glass panels. (The grating keeps the birds out.)

There is a louver wall about 4 feet behind the curtain wall/ cladding so it would be imposable for someone to actually fall through the vent openings in the exterior cladding, if they could even get to them. There are all kinds of plenums conectiong to the louver wall.

I think I get what you're saying. Let me punch a few more holes after class.

[Traynor]

it gets annoying when people repeat the same questions

It gets annoying when people get frustrated at people that ask the same questions.

:D

Some people are just joining this thread in progress. We should all have some sympathy... Would you really want to read over every comment in 500 or more pages?

[rjb001]

Some people are just joining this thread in progress. We should all have some sympathy... Would you really want to read over every comment in 500 or more pages?

Thank you! A little kindness makes the world go round, right?! :) So anyone know the answer?

[guyFROMtheBURGH]

Keep in mind that it's getting taller (longer to transport goods up) and colder (winter in NYC = snow and wind) but with the smaller floorplates from here up, I would guess that the progress will remain the same.

[Mr. Lion]

Keep in mind that it's getting taller (longer to transport goods up) and colder (winter in NYC = snow and wind) but with the smaller floorplates from here up, I would guess that the progress will remain the same.

:previous: :previous: footprints dont get really smaller. It goes from a octagon to a square to a octagon to a square. The floor plate does shrink some as it rises, but not enough to make a big difference

[guyFROMtheBURGH]

:previous: :previous: footprints dont get really smaller. It goes from a octagon to a square to a octagon to a square. The floor plate does shrink some as it rises, but not enough to make a big difference


Actually, it does get smaller. From the first floor above the base, it starts as a square. At the midway point, it will be an octagon with the widest point being the length of the original square. At the top, it will finish a square with the diagonal being the length of the original square. Knowing this, the floorplate will actually be half the original:

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp66/jjs65/WTC1floorplateinfo.png

[STR]

So...when I'm done here, who wants a big-ass 3000 or 4000 pixel high/wide render? If so, from where?

[Mr. Lion]

So...when I'm done here, who wants a big-ass 3000 or 4000 pixel high/wide render? If so, from where?

looking up at the towers sounds good for me. If you ever get a chance you should finish the original model. It was one of a kind

[patriotizzy]

^^^^ Looking at it from the top, at an angle. Not a sharp angle, more of an obtuse... if you get my description.

[STR]

^I went with Mr. Lions idea. Shooting on Greenwich St, across the street from DB site. It looks like it will take an hour and ten minutes to finish up. Not that yours was a bad idea, but he posted before you did.

EDIT: Hour and fourteen minutes. Won't be doing many of these, so enjoy.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1100/supersize1.jpg

[Boss-ton]

^^^ oh wow if thats what its gonna look like its gonna be more iconic than i thought

[2-TOWERS]

^I went with Mr. Lions idea. Shooting on Greenwich St, across the street from DB site. It looks like it will take an hour and ten minutes to finish up. Not that yours was a bad idea, but he posted before you did.

EDIT: Hour and fourteen minutes. Won't be doing many of these, so enjoy.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1100/supersize1.jpg

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BOMB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 20 MORE DAYS I'LL BE THERE

[NYguy]

^ The spire really brings the tower out.


Looking at more cladding, maybe in a day or so, the entire floor will be complete...

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/991019.jpg



in.formed (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53024120@N04/5182666823/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/5182666823_40599d56f8_b.jpg



http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1418/5182666827_3bbdfe42ab_b.jpg

[Tall guy 31]

^ The spire really brings the tower out.


Looking at more cladding, maybe in a day or so, the entire floor will be complete...

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/991019.jpg

Hate to sound stupid....but in this photo it looks like they go every other piece. Why do they do this?? I figured it would be one solid piece after another.

[StoOgE]

I can't wait until March to see this bad boy. It is going to be completely different than August when I was there last.

[NYguy]

Port Authority update...

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/991033.jpg


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/991034.jpg


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/991035.jpg


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/991036.jpg


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/991037.jpg


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/991038.jpg


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/991039.jpg

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

i saw 1 and 2 WTC at Lot-Less :haha:

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz27/skyscrapersofnewyork/DSCN4064-1.jpg

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz27/skyscrapersofnewyork/DSCN4062-1.jpg

[NYguy]

That reminds me, I still have my "4d" puzzle to put together. It has all of the WTC towers, and the FT looks great. But I just like looking at the box...:)

[sw5710]

In the last render of the cladding it shows that the base cladding will cover up the large steel V cross beams. You wont see them.

[Traynor]

^ The spire really brings the tower out.
...

While I mostly like the design of the tower and the curtainwall cladding is impeccable, I am not so appreciative of the material to cover the spire. The opaque white covering and tapering shape is reminiscent of a "Rolled Marijuana Joint" standing on its end.

If it were to be covered in reflective mirror-like Mylar, I feel it would give the spire more sparkle and oomph and de-emphasize the joint-like shape.

:cool:

[NYguy]

^ There's still a lot to be revealed about the spire, but STR's renderings do it justice as it relates to the tower. As far as tapering goes, it should be no other way, as a spire.



http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3831/t224.jpg



http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2726/t217.jpg

[Traynor]

...As far as tapering goes, it should be no other way, as a spire.
...

Allow me to clarify:

Of course a spire is best when it tapers. I was referring to the apparent "double-taper" where the spire is wider in the middle and narrower at the top and bottom. That is the effect I am not so keen on. As well as the choice of covering, as I mentioned earlier.

[Traynor]

@STR

I absolutely love the giant WTC you posted but I noticed something unusual...

The prismatic glass on the base appears "true vertical" in your rendering when in fact it slants inwards at 7 degrees. Visually, the vertical lines in that oblique angle viewpoint of the base should not appear perpendicular to the ground nor parallel to the adjacent buildings.... Should they?

[xnyr]

The opaque white covering and tapering shape is reminiscent of a "Rolled Marijuana Joint" standing on its end.



perfect! :haha:

[The Jabroni]

Hey guys and gals, just passing through. Great to see 1 WTC going up, and it looks beautiful already!

Looking forward to see it complete, along with the other towers. Kudos to you, New Yorkers! :D

[Infernal_Elf]

stunnign rendering STR looks stunning

[BostonBuild]

Nice! Steel up to 47-48, and cladding going up :tup:

I was mulling going down to NYC in a few weeks for a photography excursion. Wanting to see the cladding in person is providing some extra motivation to do so. Last time I went down was on April 17th, and they were working on floors 23-24 that weekend... That puts some perspective on how much progress has been made in the last 7 months... the tower more or less doubled in height.

[RockMont]

Almost 50 and it is still November. I forgot what the projected height was for the end of the year, but I'd like to think it will be ahead of schedule.

[STR]

@STR

I absolutely love the giant WTC you posted but I noticed something unusual...

The prismatic glass on the base appears "true vertical" in your rendering when in fact it slants inwards at 7 degrees. Visually, the vertical lines in that oblique angle viewpoint of the base should not appear perpendicular to the ground nor parallel to the adjacent buildings.... Should they?

Yeah, I don't have any blueprints, so I mess with it as I figure things out. Now, are all the panes in-plane with each other (essentially one giant sheet slanting downwards at 7 degrees), or does each level repeat, like a saw blade, when viewed from the side?

[XxBassHunterxX]

One floor per week of cladding....:banana: :banana: :D

[rider15]

Almost 50 and it is still November. I forgot what the projected height was for the end of the year, but I'd like to think it will be ahead of schedule.

Lynda Tollner is a program director in the World Trade Center Construction Department and she anticipate that the steel installation will be between the 55th and 60th floors by end of this year.

[Traynor]

Yeah, I don't have any blueprints, so I mess with it as I figure things out. Now, are all the panes in-plane with each other (essentially one giant sheet slanting downwards at 7 degrees), or does each level repeat, like a saw blade, when viewed from the side?

OOooooo Good question!... I hadn't thought of that idea.

I'm guessing the first version, to reflect more light from the plaza and passing traffic.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/5185075495_36d0872b55.jpg

[brooklynbandit]

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BOMB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 20 MORE DAYS I'LL BE THERE

might wanna use a different term lol

[gttx]

Wow you really get an appreciation for how massive this building is by seeing it in the context of the whole site. Even at 50 floors it still looks a bit stubby...

[sw5710]

Only 1212' to go.

[uakoops]

@STR

I absolutely love the giant WTC you posted but I noticed something unusual...

The prismatic glass on the base appears "true vertical" in your rendering when in fact it slants inwards at 7 degrees. Visually, the vertical lines in that oblique angle viewpoint of the base should not appear perpendicular to the ground nor parallel to the adjacent buildings.... Should they?

The sides of the base are vertical. Only the corner chamfers are slanted.

[XxBassHunterxX]

Only 1212' to go.

When said like that i dont feel so excited :P

[Traynor]

The sides of the base are vertical. Only the corner chamfers are slanted.

Oh yeah... I forgot that part.

LOL

[Zensteeldude]

OOooooo Good question!... I hadn't thought of that idea.

I'm guessing the first version, to reflect more light from the plaza and passing traffic.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/5185075495_36d0872b55.jpg

The one on the left is correct.

[Zensteeldude]

When said like that i dont feel so excited :P

Would it make you feel better if I said only 804 feet to go tell the tower structure tops out ?:) Just 770' 8" to the roof !

[sw5710]

6 more jumps and it will be equil to 7WTC.:banana:

[sw5710]

Hey Zen:

Do you think the cladding has in any way slowed the work on floors 47,48?. The west side of 47,48 is slower to be built out then the last several jumps..

[Zensteeldude]

Curtain wall installation should have no effect on steel erection, quite the reverse. Steel is top priority, followed by core and slab concrete.

The corner panels were installed on Sunday because they were not erecting steel that day therefore the tower crane was available. The rest of the panels were brought up by a construction elevator and hung with portable hoists.

[sw5710]

Thanks Zen:

[STR]

The one on the left is correct.

How do they fit in a 7* slant like that? Aren't you going to run into the columns? Or have the base columns slanted outwards and nobody ever noticed?

[2-TOWERS]

might wanna use a different term lol

amazing AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Traynor]

My bad folks...

Only the corners are slanted inwards... I was having a Brain F*&t about STR's render of the base.

Now back to your regular scheduled programming....

:D

[STR]

^Your on my #$%@ list. I wasted 30 minutes trying to figure that out. :whip:

[Mr. Lion]

:previous: :multibow: :previous:

[Traynor]

^Your on my #$%@ list. I wasted 30 minutes trying to figure that out. :whip:

LOL

You're list would not be the only one of those that I would be on.

However, according to an old render on the first page of this thread, the corners have some panels of glass and they are indeed slanted 7 degrees inward. Your render does not show these.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/78009053/large.jpg
(Found on page one of this thread.)

[Zensteeldude]

How do they fit in a 7* slant like that? Aren't you going to run into the columns? Or have the base columns slanted outwards and nobody ever noticed?

It only slants out 7 degrees at the corner chamfer, and the corner columns are 7 degrees from vertical.

In case anyone missed it, the cardinal direction faces of the tower are perfectly vertical at the center from the lobby floor to the top of the parapet.

[STR]

^Oh, I got it. EVENTUALLY.

[Mr. Lion]

^Oh, I got it. EVENTUALLY.
octagon-square-octagon-square

[Zensteeldude]

:previous: LOL, yep.

I should read faster next time.:)

Don't worry STR, your renderings carry the Zen stamp of approval.:D

[Obey]

Very soon we will be seeing our first full-cladded floor.

[westmc9th]

Hey Zen:

Do you think the cladding has in any way slowed the work on floors 47,48?. The west side of 47,48 is slower to be built out then the last several jumps..

what are you talking about? The first steel for floors 47 and 48 went up this past Saturday and they have the perimeter columns up not to mention they already connected some of it to the core, it is going the same rate as the rest have.. wind blew today is the only thing that could have stopped work today

[sw5710]

what are you talking about? The first steel for floors 47 and 48 went up this past Saturday and they have the perimeter columns up not to mention they already connected some of it to the core, it is going the same rate as the rest have.. wind blew today is the only thing that could have stopped work today

Oh I meant the west side of floor47,48 only. On that side the blue safety structure has yet to jump up so they can start putting the connecting steel in for that area.

[Upward]

A few pictures I took this afternoon:

http://webfiles.uci.edu/cfagan/ssp/nyc10/IMG_0673.jpg

http://webfiles.uci.edu/cfagan/ssp/nyc10/IMG_0675.jpg

I never really took notice of this until I saw it with my own eyes. Wow!
http://webfiles.uci.edu/cfagan/ssp/nyc10/IMG_0678.jpg

A quick snap through a gap in the fence...
http://webfiles.uci.edu/cfagan/ssp/nyc10/IMG_0679.jpg

http://webfiles.uci.edu/cfagan/ssp/nyc10/IMG_0681.jpg

http://webfiles.uci.edu/cfagan/ssp/nyc10/IMG_0689.jpg


I have been following this thread for a while, but this was my first visit to the site since January 2007. I've seen lots of great pictures here, but it was time to see it for myself. I look forward to seeing this rise and become visible from more places around the city; hopefully I'm here long enough to see it completed.

[NYguy]

Allow me to clarify:

Of course a spire is best when it tapers. I was referring to the apparent "double-taper" where the spire is wider in the middle and narrower at the top and bottom. That is the effect I am not so keen on. As well as the choice of covering, as I mentioned earlier.

That's part of the design. The spire was intended to "invoke" the Statue of Liberty's raised torch. As such, it is intened to be a significant feature of the building's design, not just a thin pole placed on top like you will find on some towers. As far as the finished product, well we are removed from even seeing the absolute final design of the spire/crown, and certainly you won't see the effect of the "covering" until it is built. But as I said, STR's renderings do it justice.


http://www.som.com/content.cfm/one_world_trade_center

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/992623.jpg




A few pictures I took this afternoon:

http://webfiles.uci.edu/cfagan/ssp/nyc10/IMG_0673.jpg

Maybe by the end of the week that first floor will be done...:tup:

[Plokoon11]

2 flatbed trucks are next to the wtc, there already unloaded but this could be more glass!

[sw5710]

Those are the clearest pictures of the glass on floor 20 that I have seen yet. Great shots!:tup:

[STR]

Fudging around with settings, so no hi-res today. Ignore the fact that the interior columns didn't show up until the 3rd render, didn't know the program was interpreting something the way it did. This is the part of the work that makes everything look real, but it's also the most damn tedious and time-consuming part as well. Teak a number, send to render, wait 5 minutes, adjust another parameter (usually because you can't just change one thing without messing something else up). Render. Do laundry. Adjust again. Render. Take dog out. When everything looks good, change the lighting conditions and see if it's STILL good.

Also, now that I notice it, I need to rework the lower floors and horizontal beams. AND the corners. Maybe tomorrow.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2915/w015.th.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/w015.jpg/) http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/4943/w016.th.jpg (http://img815.imageshack.us/i/w016.jpg/) http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4943/w016.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/i/w016.jpg/) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8531/w017i.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/i/w017i.jpg/) http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5803/w018y.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/w018y.jpg/)


I actually stopped messing with the base, as I'm happy with it for now. While I was messing with the tower glass, and the metal materials, enjoy the prismatic glass under a few different lighting conditions. Then a few different angles. Towards the end, I finally found the setting to create a more realistic metal material.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3039/w020.th.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/w020.jpg/) http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/2926/w021.th.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/w021.jpg/) http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8039/w022.th.jpg (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/w022.jpg/) http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9108/w023.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/w023.jpg/) http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8658/w024.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/w024.jpg/) http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/892/w025l.th.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/w025l.jpg/)

[NYguy]

^ The efforts are appreciated.


http://tribecatrib.com/news/2010/november/799_world-trade-center-tower-begins-to-show-its-shimmering-face.html
World Trade Center Tower Begins to Show Its Shimmering Face

http://tribecatrib.com/images/stories/2010/11-November/1%20wtc-hanging%20glass-w.jpg

Reflected in the glass is the facade of 7 WTC, across Vesey St. from the tower.

By Matt Dunning
Nov. 17

Already 48 stories high, the rising steel and concrete skeleton of the World Trade Center site’s Tower 1 is all but impossible to miss.

But what’s easy to overlook is the first glimpse of the building’s transformation from a drab construction site to a stunning, 21st century, 104-story office tower.

On Sunday, Nov. 13, crews installed the first pieces of its shiny steel-and-glass façade, on three corners and in the center of the 20th floor's eastern wall. The windows are the first to be installed anywhere on the site since the rebuilding began.

"This is another tangible sign of progress that people who walk past the site can see as we work to get this tower completed in 2013,” said Steven Coleman, spokesman for the Port Authority, the building’s developer.

The very first pieces of the façade were bolted on to the northeast, southeast and southwest corners of the tower’s steel frame at the 20th story. Crews spent most of Monday morning and afternoon putting up the first two flat window panels near the center of the floor’s eastern wall, a painstaking process that must be done with absolute precision because the rest of the installation depends on it.

“Once they get rolling, they’ll be able to install glass panels at a rate of one floor per week,” Coleman said.

One at a time, each steel and glass panel is wheeled to the tower’s outer edge with a hand-operated forklift, lowered into place and then bolted tight to the tower’s frame. Glass is added in once the steel panel is secure.

When the 1,776-foot tower is complete, crews will have placed more than 12,000 flat panels and 700 corner pieces. It will take approximately 160 panels to wrap one of the larger, lower floors in the tower, while the upper floors will need around 100 panels.

Installation of the 13-foot-high panels began on the 20th floor, Coleman said, because the Port Authority will need open access to the tower’s base, containing the mechanical equipment, for several more months.

“There is a lot of equipment that still needs to be loaded onto the mechanical floors in the [base], so the glass wall must come in later,” Coleman said. “Additionally, with all the activity at the base of the building now, we scheduled the wall later to minimize damage.”

Coleman said installation of the prismatic glass wall on the tower’s base—meant to obscure the mechanical equipment behind it—would likely begin in early 2012.


http://www.tribecatrib.com/images/resize/fjIzM34yMDEwLzExLU5vdmVtYmVyLzF3dGMtY29ybmVy.jpg

[STR]

^Given that they just started manufacturing the first of a couple thousand prismatic panels this month, the 2012 time frame shouldn't surprise anyone.

[NYguy]

At least we now know the tower will be topped out before they begin work on the base.

A few more pics taken from the Tribeca Trib article...


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/993002-S1300x600.jpg



http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/993003-S1300x600.jpg



http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/993004-S1300x600.jpg



http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/993005.jpg



http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/993006.jpg



http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/993002.jpg

[Traynor]

The Tribecca Trib

One at a time, each steel and glass panel is wheeled to the tower’s outer edge with a hand-operated forklift, lowered into place and then bolted tight to the tower’s frame. Glass is added in once the steel panel is secure

This explanation of the glazing process is confusing.

...each steel and glass panel is wheeled...lowered into place...

because the above part suggests the frame and glass are installed at the same time, as can be seen in the accompanying pictures.

Then it goes on to add...

Glass is added in once the steel panel is secure

Confusing, considering they seem to be using metal frame spacers at the moment, that contain no glass, yet other completely glazed panels are installed all at once. What they mention in this article is an act we have not yet witnessed: The cladding team installing glass to metal frames which are already in place.

I realize authors of these articles don't think the average reader cares to read about a detailed description of the complicated procedure, but oversimplified (or even contradictory) information is just maddening.

:shrug:

[Pingpongmagician]

I love this building! One day I will visit New York and check this baby out.

[STR]

STR did a verrryyyy bad thing just now. He bought something. Actually BOUGHT something. I HAD to. It is soooo worth it.

[Alliance]

Its good to see glass up. Hopefully in the coming weeks we can get a good picture of what will make or break this giant tower.

[Innsertnamehere]

STR did a verrryyyy bad thing just now. He bought something. Actually BOUGHT something. I HAD to. It is soooo worth it.

What do you mean?? did you buy a rendering software or something??

[STR]

What do you mean?? did you buy a rendering software or something??

You'll see, and when you do, it will blow your f#####g mind away. Guts and brain will be stuck to the wall right behind you, as if an explosion blew out from your monitor.

[Plokoon11]

Maybe a better video card or CPU.

[Domamania]

I cant belive that Tower 1V2 is 80 percent of the height of tower 7 and about 40 percent of its final street to roof height. I cant wait for it to be finished and once it is then the WORLD TRADE CENTER is Back.

[STR]

I can't believe I need to buy more RAM. Oh well, I always planned to when I went 64-bit. The awesomeness just doesn't work well with only 2GB. Going to have to pull my laptop apart to upgrade. ####ing Dell...

[Ziroc]

I can't believe I need to buy more RAM. Oh well, I always planned to when I went 64-bit. The awesomeness just doesn't work well with only 2GB. Going to have to pull my laptop apart to upgrade. ####ing Dell...


Yeah, I need to get XP 64bit as well. I have triple channel memory (6gigs), but 32bit XP only handles 2.32gigs.. blah.

I am also building the WTC 1 tower, and an entire city. It's crazy hard... just sculpting land, roads and sidewalks is a pain.. over a million polys, and only 1/3 of the city is complete. May have to split up the 3DSMAX scene into separate files to add the WTC.

(They sure are moving quick on the glass! Hope to see more next week!) :)

[Zapatan]

PS. why is the building 1373 and not 1368 again?

[STR]

^Parapet is 1368. Roof is 1373.

Yeah, I need to get XP 64bit as well. I have triple channel memory (6gigs), but 32bit XP only handles 2.32gigs.. blah.

I am also building the WTC 1 tower, and an entire city. It's crazy hard... just sculpting land, roads and sidewalks is a pain.. over a million polys, and only 1/3 of the city is complete. May have to split up the 3DSMAX scene into separate files to add the WTC.

(They sure are moving quick on the glass! Hope to see more next week!) :)

You know, I've always been of the opinion that you don't go doing work that's already been done, unless you're going to totally blow it out of the water.

That's more another tease of what I'm doing, than what you are BTW.

[Boss-ton]

aw man i hope they dont do the horizontal lights it looks cheesy as hell one vertical light out the top of the spire is class though

[NYguy]

Some of you people seem to have a problem identifying the topic of this thread. This thread is specifically for the Freedom Tower/1 World Trade Center construction. That's it. Take your off topic debates and commentary elsewhere.

Further, if you wish to debate the whole spire/roof height thing again for what is likely the hundreth time, there was yet another thread created for that. Have at it...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=183533

[NYguy]

PS. why is the building 1373 and not 1368 again?

Assuming you are talking parapet height, it depends on which side you measure from.
From Fulton it's 1368, from the north (Vesey) side, which has a lower elevation, it's 1,373.
The north entrance has stairs in the lobby to make up the difference.




Now, some photos from yesterday (Nove 18, 2010), but first a quick clip of where we stand now...

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Checking in on our new friends...

1.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994464-S1300x600.jpg


2.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994465-S1300x600.jpg


3.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994466-S1300x600.jpg


4.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994467-S1300x600.jpg


5.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994468-S1300x600.jpg


6.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994469-S1300x600.jpg



http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994469.jpg


7.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994470.jpg


8.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994471.jpg


9.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994472-S1300x600.jpg


10.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994473.jpg


11.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994474-S1300x600.jpg


12.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994475-S1300x600.jpg


13.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994476-S1300x600.jpg


14.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994477-S1300x600.jpg


15.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994478-S1300x600.jpg

[2-TOWERS]

Looking At Those Zoom Shots You See The Sheer Size Of This King !!!!!!the King Of New York Is Rising

[NYguy]

Part II (Nov 18, 2010)


16.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994479-S1300x600.jpg


17.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994480.jpg


18.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994481-S1300x600.jpg



http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994481.jpg


19.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994482-S1300x600.jpg


20.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994483-S1300x600.jpg


21.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994484-S1300x600.jpg


22.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994485-S1300x600.jpg



http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994485.jpg


23.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994486-S1300x600.jpg


24.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994487-S1300x600.jpg


25.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994488-S1300x600.jpg


26. I think it will pass 7 WTC early January...

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994489-S1300x600.jpg



http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994489.jpg


27.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994490-S1300x600.jpg


28.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994491-S1300x600.jpg


29.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994492-S1300x600.jpg


30. Still trying to get a feel for the glass, and how it plays off its surroundings..

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994493-S1300x600.jpg


31.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994494-S1300x600.jpg


32.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994495-S1300x600.jpg


33.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994496-S1300x600.jpg


34.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994497-S1300x600.jpg


35.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/994498-S1300x600.jpg

[Draegen]

I wasn't patient so i used gimp to see how it would look with all of the glass in place THIS IS FAKE
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9065/asdasdsadsdasdasd.png (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/asdasdsadsdasdasd.png/)

[Plokoon11]

God damn it, that picture had me going for a second.

[Onn]

God damn it, that picture had me going for a second.

No kidding! Can we replace all the other pics with that one, because is looks freakin sweet! :haha:

(Great pics NYguy! :slob:)

[hunser]

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx

*The following information was last updated on November 19, 2010.

* Facade installation began mid-November at 20th story
* Tower steel is now above floor 48
* Concrete is now being installed above floor 42
* Multiple cranes on site for steel and concrete installation
* Both the south and north cores are now being erected as the structure rises
* "Cocoon" safety system now in place around upper perimeter, to rise with structure
* Utility installation and tie-ins
* Crews are coordinating substructure construction while maintaining PATH service

[XxBassHunterxX]

I wasn't patient so i used gimp to see how it would look with all of the glass in place THIS IS FAKE
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9065/asdasdsadsdasdasd.png (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/asdasdsadsdasdasd.png/)

Oh Geezz thats just AWESOME :notacrook:

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Too bad its fake

[STR]

What's this? Nothing. Move along, it's clearly not ready. It looks nothing like the second image, and it took so much work to hack it down that far just to render. Have to wait until Monday or so for my new RAM to arrive.

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/3568/hohum.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6285/40454.jpg

[Zapatan]

^Parapet is 1368. Roof is 1373.

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wait i dont understand, I thought the solid roof was at 1335 and the parapet was 1362 -1368 to mark the height of the orginal towers, where did the extra 5 feet come from?

(not that its important just curious)

[STR]

^Nevermind. I had gotten back from drinking at mixed up the numbers. Roof is like 1337'8 or something.

[Zensteeldude]

I can't believe I need to buy more RAM. Oh well, I always planned to when I went 64-bit. The awesomeness just doesn't work well with only 2GB. Going to have to pull my laptop apart to upgrade. ####ing Dell...

OMG, you are doing all of this on a laptop !

BTW, wait a little longer for winders 7. I put 7 64bit on my new system and get BSOD's about 5 times a week.

[sw5710]

Roof 1337' Parapet 1368'

[STR]

OMG, you are doing all of this on a laptop !

BTW, wait a little longer for winders 7. I put 7 64bit on my new system and get BSOD's about 5 times a week.

Yes, it's a laptop, but it was the last generation of Inspiron notebooks built with gaming in mind. Basically, an Alienware without the pricetag and horridly tacky detailing and ugly logos everywhere. I've actually been using win7 since day zero, since I got an awesome preorder discount ($40?). Just never had a need to up the ram to take advantage until now. My PC starts to chug at around a million polygons, and this Manhattan model (because it's the WHOLE ISLAND) is 3.5 million.

As for your bluescreens, that's a driver issue, I'd bet money on it. I reinstalled on a clean drive and pet Windows handle all the drivers except for the video card, and a couple it didn't have in its database. Haven't had a single bluescreen, except on the rare occasion I overheat the thing.

[Obey]

I'm going over to see this beauty myself this weekend.

[NYguy]

wait i dont understand, I thought the solid roof was at 1335 and the parapet was 1362 -1368 to mark the height of the orginal towers, where did the extra 5 feet come from?

If you scroll up, your question was already answered. No need to keep repeating it.