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Obey
Jan 10, 2011, 11:39 PM
^^^ The first one is really good.
STR
Jan 11, 2011, 12:08 AM
I'd argue so is the second. The white balance is just a bit off. The reflectivity and transparency is spot on, it just needs to be a little cooler in color. The sun probably isn't in exactly the right place either.
NYguy
Jan 11, 2011, 1:29 AM
Looking good...
codiglio (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42742422@N00/5343724520/sizes/l/in/photostream/)
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jd3189
Jan 11, 2011, 1:39 AM
Hey Guys,looking at how much progress is being done,does anyone know when it will start to dominate Lower Manhattan? I know this year,but I just want to make sure when I come to the city through New Jersey,I see something.
NYguy
Jan 11, 2011, 1:54 AM
^ You can see something now "come to the city through New Jersey".
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/gallery/2011/01/10/world-trade-center-construction-update-1102011/#photo-1
http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/grounzero_t_110110_620_6.jpg?w=620
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Resized aerials...
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/1079338.jpg
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/1079339.jpg
Image taken from wtc.com
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/1079334.jpg
XxBassHunterxX
Jan 11, 2011, 2:43 AM
This is going to be one gorgeous tower!
:upload_71700: :fireworks:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Draegen
Jan 11, 2011, 6:49 AM
I edited that picture above for fun cuz im cool like that
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8913/wtcone.png (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/wtcone.png/)
patriotizzy
Jan 11, 2011, 7:02 AM
^^^^ OMG! That's going to look so awesome!!!
hunser
Jan 11, 2011, 11:50 AM
amazing areal shots, really shows the scale of the whole project. this will be the most exciting year to follow progress on 1wtc (and of course 4wtc). no more delays, no more foundation/ base work- just going upwards. :cheers:
hunser
Jan 11, 2011, 12:19 PM
cool pano shot by newhannibal112 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanbudhu/), with 1wtc in the background...
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2581/5344704052d81f199603b.jpg
NYguy
Jan 11, 2011, 2:36 PM
I edited that picture above for fun cuz im cool like that
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8913/wtcone.png (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/wtcone.png/)
Not bad. We'll be looking at it before you know it.
in.formed (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53024120@N04/5345575882/sizes/l/in/photostream/)
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This one from New Year's day...
Aroma Cucina (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8682716@N07/5344227479/sizes/l/in/photostream/)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/jan/03/2011-cultural-highlights-architecture-james-stirling
Topping out ceremony at the One World Trade Center, New York
One decade after 9/11, the last steel beam in the 1,776ft "Freedom Tower" designed by David Childs of SOM architects, is due to be levered into place just before next Christmas. Although the steel and glass construction won't be ready for occupation until 2013, the topping out ceremony will mark the very visible, and doubtless very emotional, architectural revival of this 16-acre site at the southern tip of Manhattan.
NYguy
Jan 11, 2011, 8:52 PM
Finally got back to the Freedom Tower, and let me just tell you that the renderings don't do this building justice. It's on a pace to be one of the top buildings in Manhattan, and I'm not talking about the height. I'll have to post photos later (or maybe when I'm trapped inside with the inevitable storm approaching). In the meantime, a couple of clips.
January 11, 2011
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Obey
Jan 11, 2011, 9:29 PM
I edited that picture above for fun cuz im cool like that
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8913/wtcone.png (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/wtcone.png/)
:banaride: Well done.
2-TOWERS
Jan 11, 2011, 11:13 PM
I'm guessing from March on we will see total domination in Lower Manhattan !!!!!!!!!!!!
NYguy
Jan 12, 2011, 3:00 AM
My prediction for matching 7 WTC in height still seems alive.
let me just tell you that the renderings don't do this building justice.
Pfft, like the WTC itself, the renders are just getting started. And since everyone wants to see aerials..
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4435/n108.jpg
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1121/n109.jpg
sterlippo1
Jan 12, 2011, 10:15 AM
^^^ maybe your best yet! simply amazing:worship: :worship:
pico44
Jan 12, 2011, 2:55 PM
damn str. just damn.
NYguy
Jan 12, 2011, 4:14 PM
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1121/n109.jpg
Another one of my favorites. Each of these towers alone would be a major addition to the skyline, but we have a chance to see them all rise.
OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 12, 2011, 4:17 PM
Great work STR, have you ever considenred to work for an architect firm or so??
Webcam update:
http://oxblue.com/archive/487d07189e5fd2b7edce94fc0bcf4b68/800x600.jpg
NYguy
Jan 12, 2011, 4:32 PM
Meanwhile, there's no stopping the momentum of the Freedom Tower...
JANUARY 11, 2011
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SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Jan 12, 2011, 4:46 PM
more new steel????
Jaystang5
Jan 12, 2011, 6:16 PM
the next 2 or 4 floors coming up are gonna be interesting... :D :D :cheers:
Don098
Jan 12, 2011, 6:50 PM
Great work STR, have you ever considenred to work for an architect firm or so??
Seriously, STR. This is your calling.
Sigh, if only society placed monetary value on my talents (music) :shuffle:
jd3189
Jan 13, 2011, 12:08 AM
Cool. I'll be seeing that when I see Manhattan from across the Hudson. 9 years ago,there was a view. 10 years later,there will be one back
NYguy
Jan 13, 2011, 2:27 AM
Allogist (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smoulaison/5347382841/sizes/l/in/photostream/)
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car2004
Jan 13, 2011, 3:22 AM
Pfft, like the WTC itself, the renders are just getting started. And since everyone wants to see aerials..
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4435/n108.jpg
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1121/n109.jpg
Wow...add on the trees and this project is going to be one hell of a beauty!
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3629/n117.jpg
antoine-c
Jan 13, 2011, 8:12 AM
Great work STR, have you ever considenred to work for an architect firm or so??
I was going to ask the same question !
I'm working for architects (as many of us I guess) and I think your renders (materials) are really realists.
Great job !
goldcntry
Jan 13, 2011, 2:19 PM
:previous: New desktop... :worship: :worship:
NYguy
Jan 13, 2011, 2:45 PM
Love 15 Penn in that last render. I'm still amazed at the mass that is Manhattan.
Time for all of you with questions to get at the Port Authority...
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/q_a_intro.cfm
The Port Authority recently achieved a major milestone on One World Trade Center with the steel installation reaching the 52nd floor, half way to the top of the 104-floor tower. The tower has now risen to the 54th floor.
As One World Trade Center continues to go up at a rapid pace, the Port Authority invites the public to ask our program manager of construction, Lynda Tollner, any questions you might have about how the construction is proceeding.
Lynda will solicit your questions between January 10 and 17, and she'll provide answers to them on this Web site as a way of keeping you and others informed about work that's under way on the project and what will be coming in the future.
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/img/lynda-tollner-qa.jpg
OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 13, 2011, 3:00 PM
:previous: Loevely rendering of the complex and Midtown in the background!
NYguy
Jan 13, 2011, 4:06 PM
Pretty in white...
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/1085018-T800600.jpg
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Biff
Jan 13, 2011, 4:32 PM
I have to say the building is turning out great but i am now tuning back to this thread daily for STR's renderings. Simply amazing. I love that they are so good that you can ACTUALLY get a genuine feel for how the city will look in a few years. Truly amazing.
NYguy
Jan 13, 2011, 4:50 PM
I love that they are so good that you can ACTUALLY get a genuine feel for how the city will look in a few years. Truly amazing.
As hard as it is to believe, it's even more amazing in person. I'm telling you a lot of people are going to be surprised. Looking at these renderings, then walking around the site, it feels like a large movie production taking place, where the renderings are actually brought to life scale.
Check out more of STR's renderings here...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=186833
http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/archives/11703?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AN_blog+%28A%2FN+Blog%29
Each week, AN plays tourist at the World Trade Center construction site. Here’s the latest.
Last night’s snowstorm was a dud when compared to the Boxing Day Blizzard. But a half hour walk around the WTC site reveals just how much extra work the weather can add to a day’s labor. By noon, workers were still shoveling out of the mess, removing snow laden tarps and generally slogging through the grayish black mess.
When returning to the site week after week, certain design elements begin to reveal themselves. Forms become more familiar and building outlines emerge.
http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/wtw5_glassdetail-500x333.jpg
http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/wtw5_window-500x333.jpg
westmc9th
Jan 13, 2011, 5:01 PM
A little old but i love the way it reflects the sky and clouds this thing is going to be an absolute masterpiece.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4633/5349960391b24178d4c6b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8915185@N02/5349960391/
NYguy
Jan 13, 2011, 6:42 PM
It certainly is. Forget about the height, it will be notable for its beauty as well. A a few more pics.
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/1085639.jpg
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/1085640.jpg
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18573/1085641.jpg
:previous: New desktop... :worship: :worship:
Glad you like it. That one, because it's the whole island, took 40 minutes to generate.
I have to say the building is turning out great but i am now tuning back to this thread daily for STR's renderings.
Heh. I only post about 1/3 of the renders in this thread. The only place to get all of them are in the NYC2015 model thread.
Just-In-Cali
Jan 13, 2011, 9:30 PM
Wow...awesome renders. Plus Im kinda amazed. Its like I blinked and suddenly there is a skyscraper sitting at the WTC site. Pretty awesome NY!
CoolCzech
Jan 13, 2011, 9:35 PM
Another one of my favorites. Each of these towers alone would be a major addition to the skyline, but we have a chance to see them all rise.
Let me tell you, looking at that mockup, I must say it's obvious the FT will be the star of the show. The other towers are fine, but just can't match the distinctive obelisk shape and spire of the FT for iconic value. Childs truly outdid himself; he created a new masterpiece that will be every bit instantly identifiable with New York City as the original WTC ever was.
Dac150
Jan 13, 2011, 9:40 PM
Well it’s been said that simplicity equates to notoriety in a structure, and just like its predecessor, I think that’ll hold true for the successor.
guyFROMtheBURGH
Jan 13, 2011, 9:45 PM
In a few of the previous pictures, I noticed tarps saying island on them. Anybody know what they mean or what they're for?
JSsocal
Jan 13, 2011, 10:46 PM
^^^That is the company doing the spray on fireproofing. When they are fireproofing a section of the building they put the tarp up.
Pbellamy
Jan 14, 2011, 1:38 AM
Here's a view from Jersey City taken tonight.
https://www.me.com/ro/petebellamy/Galleries/101616/P1060248/web.jpg?ver=12949694000002
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Troubadour
Jan 14, 2011, 2:33 AM
I was originally a critic of the new 1 WTC - it didn't seem ballsy enough, and from early renderings had seemed like weak tea compared to what it was replacing. That opinion is completely gone. Every floor of cladding that gets added increases my view of its ultimate grandeur. The last few pics have cemented my conversion to a worshiper of what I would now love to call the Freedom Tower - a designation I thought ludicrous in the past.
Sometimes, the greatest works of humanity are the result of rebuilding after a catastrophe. The Parthenon as we know it today was built on top of the ruins of the original temple torn down by the armies of Xerxes - and I think of this when I begin to realize just how awesome the new 1 WTC is going to be. My only fear is that its awe may suppress future projects from aspiring to compete with it - hopefully it will do the opposite, and prove inspirational. :D
NYguy
Jan 14, 2011, 3:55 AM
Wow...awesome renders. Plus Im kinda amazed. Its like I blinked and suddenly there is a skyscraper sitting at the WTC site. Pretty awesome NY!
A lot of people feel that way, or will fill that way soon. This is the "year of the Freedom Tower", the year when that publicly mandated goal of restoring the skyline with an "iconic" element is realized. It's been a decade coming, but this is it. :tup:
JACKinBeantown
Jan 14, 2011, 5:18 AM
I thought 2011 was the year of the rabbit. ;)
It will be nice to see 1WTC start peaking above 7WTC soon. (Or is it peeking? Seems that both work in this case.)
2-TOWERS
Jan 14, 2011, 3:00 PM
As The Freedom Tower (wtc ) Rises Above The Rest Of The Pack , I'm Sure Abc, Nbc, Cbs, Espn Will Show It To The Country Like They Always Do By Showing Off The City Whatever Game Is Played In There City.. Example During A Lakers Game They Always Show Off The Hollywood Sign, Malibu, Etc... Alot Of Yankees Games They Show The Gorge Washington Bridge , And Nyskyline, And With Freedom Rising The Country Will See It As The Broadcastors Will Zoom In On Freedom Tower
sw5710
Jan 14, 2011, 4:52 PM
Now that the blue cage on top has been lifted it looks like they just put vertical steel above floor 54 where the nodes are.
uakoops
Jan 14, 2011, 6:16 PM
Now that the blue cage on top has been lifted it looks like they just put vertical steel above floor 54 where the nodes are.
They did not add any new vertical steel today, however the perimeter columns they installed last week are 3 floors high instead of the usual 2. Maybe Zen or someone else who knows can explain why.
The North One
Jan 14, 2011, 9:18 PM
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4350/n96c.jpg
I LOVE THIS ONE!
the whole complex is going to look jaw dropping in the sunset, and sunrise.
amazing work!
MadGnome
Jan 14, 2011, 9:57 PM
They did not add any new vertical steel today, however the perimeter columns they installed last week are 3 floors high instead of the usual 2. Maybe Zen or someone else who knows can explain why.
I only see two floors worth in the photos, but if they are doing three maybe they're transitioning to lighter columns, letting them put up 40 footers (plus the tie-ins).
It would make the math easier than having to figure 26 2/3' a jump. Maybe that's why they did it.
jd3189
Jan 14, 2011, 10:29 PM
Cool. Could you do one with the Statue of Liberty in front? She and the skyline of Manhattan one of the most recognizable and iconic views of New York. World Class. We'll be seeing that soon next year,maybe by the end of this one.
Zensteeldude
Jan 14, 2011, 10:39 PM
I don't think that last set of columns was 3 floors high, at least not the perimeter columns.
If my calculations are correct there are still columns that would be too heavy for one crane to lift if they were 40 feet.
There is alot more to consider than just the gravity and wind loads on a column. One also has to consider the natural frequency. (Seismic loads.) The columns don't get significantly lighter for another 4 floors or so.
NYGuy's post on the last page, Post #11923, Photos 16 and 22 clearly show perimeter columns with only two floors worth of moment connections.
robk1982
Jan 14, 2011, 10:52 PM
I don't think that last set of columns was 3 floors high, at least not the perimeter columns.
If my calculations are correct there are still columns that would be too heavy for one crane to lift if they were 40 feet.
There is alot more to consider than just the gravity and wind loads on a column. One also has to consider the natural frequency. (Seismic loads.) The columns don't get significantly lighter for another 20 floors or so.
The diagonal columns, and the ones next to them, are shorter than the rest (because of the upcoming "nodes").
Traynor
Jan 14, 2011, 10:57 PM
^^I think the higher columns they are referring to are these ones on the West corner. They haven't even waited for the decking of the floors below to raise them.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8697/1wtc11411.jpg
(From Discovery webcam today found in a post at SSC by spectre000 found here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=70659591#post70659591 )
robk1982
Jan 14, 2011, 11:04 PM
^ Hadn't seen that pic, but it proves my point that the diagonals (and the columns next to them) WERE shorter.
Look at NYGuy's last pics. There were no connections for the second floor on the diagonals (or the columns next to them), so they needed to add more steel in order to build the floors.
Alliance
Jan 14, 2011, 11:40 PM
Well it’s been said that simplicity equates to notoriety in a structure, and just like its predecessor, I think that’ll hold true for the successor.
It totally does. However like its predecessors, I think materials will be considered a point of contention.
Roadcruiser1
Jan 15, 2011, 12:21 AM
Credits to STR, because he's awesome like that.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/534/n025.jpg
asharmaearth411
Jan 15, 2011, 12:28 AM
STR,
You have amazing renders. How about a render of WTC Tower 5, although it has not been confirmed yet. That would be a great addition to your models. :)
Keep up the good work. We are not far from completion of the WTC project. Your renders fast forward us to the completion of this vast complex. :cool:
Roadcruiser1
Jan 15, 2011, 12:39 AM
5 World Trade Center is in the Highrise & Supertall Proposal section. You would find his renderings of 5 WTC there. Among other things.
Here is the link
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=164003&page=12
Zensteeldude
Jan 15, 2011, 12:45 AM
The diagonal columns, and the ones next to them, are shorter than the rest (because of the upcoming "nodes").
The technical term for the slanted corner columns is "Skewed". (Diagonal has a totally different meaning. It all has to do with the angle.(I'm just sharing my knowledge and experience with everyone on the forum, I do not expect the average person to know all the technical terms.))
Yes, the upcoming corner nodes are spliced at a different level than the usual column splice.
But the columns are still 2 floors high, with the exception of the corner nodes.
As for the corner nodes, don't expect anything like the nodes at the 20th floor. These nodes are far less interesting, just wide flange beams merging into one another on the bottome half, with solid plate for the top half.
sw5710
Jan 15, 2011, 1:32 AM
It looks like the slanted corner column where it joins the vertical one has a single beam on top now for future floors 55,56.
Zensteeldude
Jan 15, 2011, 2:13 AM
Well, we know sw5710 doesn't read my posts. Or is it a reading comprehension issue.
sw5710
Jan 15, 2011, 3:56 AM
No. It's not that at all. I was just pointing out that steel 2 floors tall for floors 55,56 was placed today at some of the corner nodes. There was no steel 3 floors tall used for floors 53,54 and 55!
JSsocal
Jan 15, 2011, 1:25 PM
Yesterday
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RobertWalpole
Jan 15, 2011, 1:42 PM
Awesome!!!
hunser
Jan 15, 2011, 1:53 PM
so happy it finally hit the 200m mark. :notacrook: the core steel has reached the 56th floor with a height of 666ft = 203m, making it the 52nd tallest building in the city. :) and still 338m to go...
NYguy
Jan 15, 2011, 2:07 PM
The year of the Freedom Tower is starting off really nice...:cheers:
Some pics from the Discovery cam today...
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/1090843.jpg
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18589/1090818.jpg
JACKinBeantown
Jan 15, 2011, 2:18 PM
Credits to STR, because he's awesome like that.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/534/n025.jpg
Wow... that's nice. It reminds me how big the original World Trade Center was... and how big the new 1WTC will also be. Great job as usual, STR.
Obey
Jan 15, 2011, 6:34 PM
More steel? Already?
jigglysquishy
Jan 15, 2011, 8:34 PM
So if One World Trade Centre is 203m with a roof height of 417m that's 214m left to go. At a rate of one floor a week they definitely won't be topped out in 2011. At the current rate they'll top out some time in March 2012.
MadGnome
Jan 15, 2011, 8:39 PM
I'd like to thank zensteeldude for keepin me up for 4 freakin hours trying to figure where seismic loads will peak. Those columns turning the corner make it kinda confusing. I assumed those monsters on the first level aren't going to move more than the diameter of an electron.
The spire in an earthquake confuses me some. There must be some elasticity in those cables or what they're tied to or something to keep quake loads down unless the whole thing bends in the middle.
Roadcruiser1
Jan 15, 2011, 9:38 PM
One World Trade Center, and the Empire State Building along with almost every single skyscraper in the skyline of Manhattan would survive a magnitude 7+ earthquake. They are going to be fine. One reason is New York City isn't in a seismically active earthquake zone. Although the fault lines around NYC can produce a magnitude 7 earthquake it's rare, and has never happened before with each one every 3,400+ years.
Although New York Cities skyscrapers weren't built to resist an earthquake naturally they are going to stand due to their steel skeletons, but there is another factor that is factored into many NYC buildings. That would be hurricanes. New York City gets hit by a hurricane every 50 years so the buildings are built to be hurricane resistant, and since hurricanes would twist a Manhattan skyscraper in a way an earthquake would, NYC's skyscrapers are both hurricane, and earthquake resistant. Which is extremely cool.
The bad news is the skyscrapers of Manhattan won't have their facades anymore after an earthquake, or a hurricane. For the hurricane the glass would literally blow off the glass, and if it's strong enough knock down huge pieces of marble. An earthquake would break, and shake all of these things down. So the only thing that would be standing would be the steel skeleton, but I am sure the masts would survive both earthquakes, and hurricanes as long as the rope or the steel tubes holding it up is strong enough.
JACKinBeantown
Jan 15, 2011, 10:20 PM
so happy it finally hit the 200m mark. :notacrook: the core steel has reached the 56th floor with a height of 666ft = 203m, making it the 52nd tallest building in the city. :) and still 338m to go...
Wow... One World Trade Center is 666 feet tall and only 52nd tallest in the city. Only in New York (and Hong Kong, Dubai, Shanghai, Chicago...)
MadGnome
Jan 15, 2011, 11:09 PM
As far as I know, (which ain't that much) WTC1 is only rated for a 5.6 earthquake. And it takes a lot more than strong guy wires for a 400 foot mast to hold up when the building is moving. If the assembly is too rigid you'd be getting ridiculous load at certain points, like where the guys are attached. And if it's not rigid enough, you could find a resonance that the quake just happens to match and really have trouble.
I'd guess that the spire is designed to tear loose right before it rips to roof off.
Troubadour
Jan 15, 2011, 11:46 PM
As far as I know, (which ain't that much) WTC1 is only rated for a 5.6 earthquake.
A major earthquake in New York is unlikely - it's nowhere near a plate boundary or volcanic fissure. Nevertheless, it is something that should be taken into consideration in designing buildings that are intended to last indefinitely. Over a sufficiently long time period, low-probability events have a tendency to happen, which means New York City will eventually have an earthquake capable of toppling most of its skyscrapers.
Most of them are artistically disposable, so it would be no major loss to mankind (beyond the people inside them), but those that consensus deems should last as long as the city exists - e.g., ESB and Statue of Liberty - should be renovated or designed from inception to do so against low-probability catastrophes. I'm increasingly of the opinion that the Freedom Tower belongs to this category, but I suppose there's plenty of time to figure that out.
brian.odonnell20
Jan 16, 2011, 12:00 AM
Credits to STR, because he's awesome like that.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/534/n025.jpg
Fine, I'll say it. NYC is going to undisputedly have the greatest skyline in the world after 2015. That rendering from that angle, even excluding a few proposed guys, just blows everything else away.
jd3189
Jan 16, 2011, 12:50 AM
Credits to STR, because he's awesome like that.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/534/n025.jpg
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT! Because of this,I really want this to be built. NYC is about to return.
NYguy
Jan 16, 2011, 2:55 AM
So if One World Trade Centre is 203m with a roof height of 417m that's 214m left to go. At a rate of one floor a week they definitely won't be topped out in 2011. At the current rate they'll top out some time in March 2012.
Just think about how many weeks are left in the year. And we'll see if this schedule holds true...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/jan/03/2011-cultural-highlights-architecture-james-stirling
Topping out ceremony at the One World Trade Center, New York
One decade after 9/11, the last steel beam in the 1,776ft "Freedom Tower" designed by David Childs of SOM architects, is due to be levered into place just before next Christmas. Although the steel and glass construction won't be ready for occupation until 2013, the topping out ceremony will mark the very visible, and doubtless very emotional, architectural revival of this 16-acre site at the southern tip of Manhattan.
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dar124
Jan 16, 2011, 3:19 AM
Awsome pics!!! Love the updates of the WTC1 progress. :tup:
N830MH
Jan 16, 2011, 5:33 AM
Oh well! They won't ready until in year of 2013. How much the times when they are constructed new WTC towers? Is they already in progress to being built more tallest towers? I wasn't sure if they will have enough financial costly.
OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 16, 2011, 12:27 PM
:previous: NYGuy, that is great news!!! I just hope they will put in plance the spire as soon as possible. :banana: :banana:
RKOwens44
Jan 16, 2011, 2:25 PM
I agree that it's looking increasingly unlikely that the building will be topped out by the end of this year. The building is now exactly 640 feet tall, which means there is 728 feet left to go, which is the equivalent of 55 stories. There are 52 weeks in a year, so one year from now (January 16, 2012), there will still be 3 floors to go, which means they won't finish until early February. It's POSSIBLE that they could start completing floors at a rate faster than a floor a week, but considering that there are going to be snow storms the rest of this month and next (and also during Jan and Feb of next year), the average rate will probably be even slower.
Don't believe what some journalist in the UK says. (I mean, the guy is calling it Freedom Tower...shows how out of touch he is.) In fact don't listen to what any journalist says about the schedule for 1WTC... just look at the facts for yourself, or listen to people who are more in the know (like the few construction workers who sometimes post here).
Fabb
Jan 16, 2011, 3:13 PM
It's POSSIBLE that they could start completing floors at a rate faster than a floor a week,
I hope they will.
There are at least two reasons for that : the tower is tapering, therefore, each floor should be completed faster than the floors below. And the second reason is that March-September is probably a much active period for construction because days are longer...
NYguy
Jan 16, 2011, 3:20 PM
I agree that it's looking increasingly unlikely that the building will be topped out by the end of this year. The building is now exactly 640 feet tall, which means there is 728 feet left to go, which is the equivalent of 55 stories. There are 52 weeks in a year, so one year from now (January 16, 2012), there will still be 3 floors to go, which means they won't finish until early February.
Well, when you realize that there aren't in actuality the number of floors left to be built that you think...oh, who cares. We've got a whole year to watch it rise. Believe it will be topped out at the end of the year or don't.
Zensteeldude
Jan 16, 2011, 4:28 PM
They have plenty of time.
52 is half of 104 but, there are only 92 floors in the building.
So, all they have to do is build 40 floors in 49 weeks. (They are pretty much done up to the 54th floor.)
Copied and paisted from the first post.
Originally Posted by Zensteeldude
* 1-6 – tower base (including 60ft tall lobby and 5 mechanical floors)
* 20-63 – offices
* 64 – sky lobby
* 65-88 – offices
* 89-90 - Broadcast
* 91-93 - mechanical
* 100-101 – Restaurant
* 102 Observation Deck
* 103-104 – mechanical floors
* 105 - Roof
* 106 - Cooling tower catwalks
* 107-109 Communications Rings
Note: there are no floors 7-19 or 94-99.
Aqua_Chicago
Jan 16, 2011, 4:34 PM
the pictures are simply great. this is going to be THE building of NYC.
But....I can not understand about those missing floors...
Aqua_Chicago
Jan 16, 2011, 4:38 PM
Note: there are no floors 7-19 or 94-99.
I wonder Why???:help:
Zensteeldude
Jan 16, 2011, 4:44 PM
In a few of the previous pictures, I noticed tarps saying island on them. Anybody know what they mean or what they're for?
They belong to the spray-On Fireproofing contractor ISLAND INTERNATIONAL INDUSTRIES .
http://www.islandcompanies.com/iii/
the pictures are simply great. this is going to be THE building of NYC.
But....I can not understand about those missing floors...
The floors are not missing, that's just how they numbered them. There is actually one level in the spire that's called the 110th floor, it's only about 36 square feet and I'm sure it's purely symbolic.
Roadcruiser1
Jan 16, 2011, 4:59 PM
Also part of the reason why there are so many mechanical floors, and why is there such a large concrete pedestal is, because of fears of terrorism, and for safety reasons. I don't like it, but that is what the NYPD wanted.
Zensteeldude
Jan 16, 2011, 5:29 PM
As far as I know, (which ain't that much) WTC1 is only rated for a 5.6 earthquake. And it takes a lot more than strong guy wires for a 400 foot mast to hold up when the building is moving. If the assembly is too rigid you'd be getting ridiculous load at certain points, like where the guys are attached. And if it's not rigid enough, you could find a resonance that the quake just happens to match and really have trouble.
I'd guess that the spire is designed to tear loose right before it rips to roof off.
I'm pretty sure there will be a failure in the tower structure before the spire structure fails. Even a 7.0 would not be as bad as hurricane force winds.
Something to think about:
75mph wind with a 3/4 inch ice load. (The dreaded frozen hurricane, AKA the Blizzard of '10)
Hey I managed to find the ANSI/EIA-TIA-222-G standard online. The national standard’s seventh revision for Steel Antenna Towers and Antenna Supporting Structures, became effective January 1, 2006.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16607894/EIA222G-Design-Steel-Tower
RKOwens44
Jan 16, 2011, 7:14 PM
Well, when you realize that there aren't in actuality the number of floors left to be built that you think...oh, who cares. We've got a whole year to watch it rise. Believe it will be topped out at the end of the year or don't.
Why the hostility? Believe me, I want it to be finished as soon as possible also. I'm just being realistic. It makes ZERO difference what arbitrary number of floors is given to the building or what some journalist in another country claims. Even the Port Authority's claim that the building is halfway done is jumping the gun. When they made that claim, the building was only 613 feet tall, whereas the total height is 1,368 feet, so that was only 45% done in ACTUAL height. Floor 52 in a 104 building is just a number.
You have to consider the height of the columns, which come in 26.67 foot spans. Not the assigned number of the remaining floors.
Zensteeldude
Jan 16, 2011, 7:29 PM
I dragged the prints out cause I wanted to see the corner nodes again. I also noticed something interesting. Above the 88th floor the columns are still two floors high, but they are not 26' 8", they are 40'.
PS: the corner nodes are 38' 2" high not quite 3 floors.
Original photo by GreenwichBoy.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/5361312564_ab01af2355_b.jpg
So now top of steel is about 4 feet above the 56th floor, 666' 8" plus 4 (203.2meters).
BStyles
Jan 16, 2011, 8:42 PM
Also part of the reason why there are so many mechanical floors, and why is there such a large concrete pedestal is, because of fears of terrorism, and for safety reasons. I don't like it, but that is what the NYPD wanted.
Actually, there are more mechanical floors because this tower is purely self-contained.
In the original World Trade Center, there were backups for the entire facility scattered around the rooftop of 5WTC, so I heard. The 1993 bombing knocked out power to the entire site, regardless of the backups, and major surrounding buildings before it was restored hours later.
Also, since the Chiller Plant in the new World Trade is only half the size as the original one, it cannot fulfill duties needed to supply the entire site, so the towers have their own mechanicals. This was an environmental move.
It's a better plan, if you think about it. Now, at least if there is danger, such as power loss, only one portion of the site will be affected, if not at all.
There was a radio repeater on 5WTC, but that was about it. Looking at my WTC prints, the bulk of the facilities for the WTC were underground, under 1 & 3 WTC. 2WTC had PATH tracks underneath, so didn't house much more than what was needed for just that one tower.
Zensteeldude
Jan 16, 2011, 10:01 PM
:previous: Yep.
That is also the reason why there is no open air Observation deck on the roof, no room for one. The roof is full of cooling towers and communications equipment.
Roadcruiser1
Jan 16, 2011, 10:16 PM
Wow really that's the reason?. I didn't know that till now. Can't they built an open air observation deck on some other tower at the World Trade Center Site. Three, and Four W.T.C. seem like good candidates for one.
Zensteeldude
Jan 16, 2011, 10:23 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2455/3984663647_5de901d16c_z.jpg?zz=1
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2525/3984663571_ed12f9dbc0_z.jpg?zz=1
Rather busy up top.
J E T S JETS JETS JETS
NYguy
Jan 17, 2011, 12:46 AM
Why the hostility? Believe me, I want it to be finished as soon as possible also. I'm just being realistic.
It was explained for you, and still you don't get it, so I'm done.
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The floors are not missing, that's just how they numbered them. There is actually one level in the spire that's called the 110th floor, it's only about 36 square feet and I'm sure it's purely symbolic.
We'll take it...;)
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