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canadate
Jan 20, 2010, 4:01 PM
If they buld that dream building in 40 years in NYC, I believe they should put it in between Empire State Building and Freedom Tower. so this way it would balance the NYC sky line. I mean ther are to many tall buildings cramped up in the 2 spots where the ESB is and Freedom Tower is. So it makes NYC skyline fuller and grander.

True, but let's move this to a new thread before people start complaining about us going off topic. I'll make it.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 20, 2010, 4:15 PM
True, but let's move this to a new thread before people start complaining about us going off topic. I'll make it.

Thanks, show me where.

canadate
Jan 20, 2010, 4:21 PM
Thanks, show me where.

Ok, it's in the Buildings & Architecture section.

uaarkson
Jan 20, 2010, 5:27 PM
Lol, you can see the subway quite clearly today.

bkraig4life
Jan 20, 2010, 6:06 PM
Getting deppressed, this building is obviously not growing, and yet Im about to lose my morning cup! Earthcam clearly has changed angle because Im about to lose the top of this go nowhere, do nothing, sort of project! I wish we could have an even slower cam just devoted to Tower 1's lack of progress! I think this cam is devoted to the underground levels cause Im about to lose it! Here's to a lack of progress at wtc1!

Domamania
Jan 20, 2010, 6:19 PM
did you see it as of late there connecting the inner core steel. they made big progress today but yesturday they couldnt cause it was rainy in the city and god forbid some one would have fell and died then what. so i would rather have progress stopped one day then have some one killed.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 20, 2010, 6:25 PM
ThereĀ“s excellent progress on 1WTC. The base will be complete soon!;)

Domamania
Jan 20, 2010, 6:37 PM
Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4274137617/sizes/l/) (Jan 14)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4274137617_0a58f9c2cc_b.jpg

Does any body have a pic of this position of the building the way it is now with its current inner steel being erected?

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 20, 2010, 6:38 PM
Does any body have a pic of this position of the building the way it is now with its current inner steel being erected?

Have a look at Earthcam or Rebuild Ground Zero

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 20, 2010, 6:42 PM
Update from flickr:

http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4290913836/

bkraig4life
Jan 20, 2010, 6:46 PM
Love seein the cores steel rise! Everyday something new!

CalibratedZeus
Jan 20, 2010, 6:50 PM
From morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/) (1/20)

http://distinctdisadvantage.comuv.com/pictures/wtc/4290913836_31ba41c68d_b.jpg

canadate
Jan 20, 2010, 6:52 PM
Wow!! Seeing a new level of steel never gets old. Glad to be witnessing such a thing.

Domamania
Jan 20, 2010, 6:54 PM
Thank you . looks like once theis floor is done for the angle the right part of the base of the verizon building will disapear.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 20, 2010, 6:59 PM
The floor that is now built is the secondlast of the base! I think they will start with the last base floor tomorrow or on Friday. By 1st February the base is most likely complete.

Domamania
Jan 20, 2010, 7:04 PM
well the steel that being put up in the last 4 days is the inner verical colomns that will connect the horizonatal floor joists that make up the last base floor.

NYC4Life
Jan 20, 2010, 7:10 PM
The size of the base gives you a good idea of the height that is yet to come :-)

Domamania
Jan 20, 2010, 7:15 PM
The answer to the size that is yet to come is HUGE.

NYC4Life
Jan 20, 2010, 7:20 PM
I would have loved if the base here kept the same dimensions as the original 1WTC. Still, it is HUGE!

Zensteeldude
Jan 20, 2010, 10:29 PM
If they buld that dream building in 40 years in NYC, I believe they should put it in between Empire State Building and Freedom Tower. so this way it would balance the NYC sky line. I mean ther are to many tall buildings cramped up in the 2 spots where the ESB is and Freedom Tower is. So it makes NYC skyline fuller and grander.

There is a reasion for the lack of tall buildings between midtown and lower manhattan, the bedrock is too deep below street level for it to be cost effective to build skyscrapers.

Zensteeldude
Jan 20, 2010, 10:38 PM
Here's some perspective on how tall this tower is going to be. When finished the top of the spire well be just 16 feet lower than the highest mountain in New Jersey. That would be High Point, 60+ miles west of Manhattan.

Bucktown718
Jan 20, 2010, 11:11 PM
There is a reason for the lack of tall buildings between midtown and lower Manhattan, the bedrock is too deep below street level for it to be cost effective to build skyscrapers.
Yeah i learned that from History channel once, and the reason that there is no skyscrapers have been build in Brooklyn downtown yet is because Brooklyn doesn't have a bedrock its was formed largely of two spines of glacial moraine, but in some places in the world they have build skyscrapers where is no bedrock under it, because of new technology allows to do it, so perhaps we might see a skyscraper in Brooklyn someday who knows.
But imagine whole Manhattan filled with skyscrapers. WOW its would be crazy amazing probably.

steveve
Jan 21, 2010, 12:16 AM
The base looks huge! i'm getting ready to see it go up now to reach its full potential!

The sight of the triangles at the side about to join is awesome!

evanmack
Jan 21, 2010, 12:17 AM
Yeah i learned that from History channel once, and the reason that there is no skyscrapers have been build in Brooklyn downtown yet is because Brooklyn doesn't have a bedrock its was formed largely of two spines of glacial moraine, but in some places in the world they have build skyscrapers where is no bedrock under it, because of new technology allows to do it, so perhaps we might see a skyscraper in Brooklyn someday who knows.
But imagine whole Manhattan filled with skyscrapers. WOW its would be crazy amazing probably.

All those skyscrapers would take away Chinatown, Tribeca, SoHo, West Village, Greenwich Village, Chelsea, etc. I don't have a problem with it but most people in New York do. Downtown Brooklyn/MetroTech should get skyscrapers though, that would be nice since I live right near there and being a member of this forum I love skyscrapers. Does anyone know when 9/11 Memorial Park will be built?

steveve
Jan 21, 2010, 1:28 AM
All those skyscrapers would take away Chinatown, Tribeca, SoHo, West Village, Greenwich Village, Chelsea, etc. I don't have a problem with it but most people in New York do. Downtown Brooklyn/MetroTech should get skyscrapers though, that would be nice since I live right near there and being a member of this forum I love skyscrapers. Does anyone know when 9/11 Memorial Park will be built?

i agree... when new developments come in, they usually do take alot away from the nearby neighborhoods.... but sometimes neighborhoods get "modernized" and not completely destroyed...

I would expect the park to be complete when construction wraps up on most of the towers... (and first we have to finish the memorials!)

Bucktown718
Jan 21, 2010, 1:42 AM
@evanmack Yeah your right those neighborhoods are one of a kind in the world and i love to hang out in there and they have alot of interesting activities.stores, etc in there but if you just use your imagination and imagine whole Manhattan covered with skyscrapers well it wouldn't be the same Manhattan for sure but it would be crazy. I wonder did anyone actually photoshoped Manhattan covered with skyscrapers all over ever?

evanmack
Jan 21, 2010, 2:11 AM
@evanmack Yeah your right those neighborhoods are one of a kind in the world and i love to hang out in there and they have alot of interesting activities.stores, etc in there but if you just use your imagination and imagine whole Manhattan covered with skyscrapers well it wouldn't be the same Manhattan for sure but it would be crazy. I wonder did anyone actually photoshoped Manhattan covered with skyscrapers all over ever?

In my opinion I would never want Manhattan or New York City to be covered in skyscrapers because skyscrapers are almost a thing in the past. Any city can build hundreds of skyscrapers. I mean look at Dubai! In fact I wish we could build more historic-like looking buildings instead of big glass structures (not that I do not like the World Trade Center development, I do). This city is so historic and we should keep that way but the new World Trade Center is not doing any harm since it is just building in hole, which was occupied by two buildings, that at the time they were built no one liked them and thought they were ugly. I just don't want to see NYC to play catch up with cities, such as Dubai.

NYguy
Jan 21, 2010, 2:17 AM
^ This isn't about New York "catching up with Dubai", it's about construction of the Freedom Tower. These new towers of the World Trade Center are being built because the original Twin Towers were destroyed in a terrorist attack - everyone loses site of that. This is very different from construction everywhere else, even in New York. So please stay on topic.

Bucktown718
Jan 21, 2010, 2:18 AM
^^^^ Yup thats what makes nyc one of a kind.

evanmack
Jan 21, 2010, 2:34 AM
^ This isn't about New York "catching up with Dubai", it's about construction of the Freedom Tower. These new towers of the World Trade Center are being built because the original Twin Towers were destroyed in a terrorist attack - everyone loses site of that. This is very different from construction everywhere else, even in New York. So please stay on topic.

What exactly makes this very different?

Domamania
Jan 21, 2010, 2:52 AM
I was just on earth cam and i saw two long silver like sticks that go one end to the other lying down on the floor they just complete 2 days ago. can some one tell me what it is.

NYguy
Jan 21, 2010, 3:03 AM
What exactly makes this very different?

Is it really that hard to fugure out? The WTC towers are only being built because of the destruction of the original Twins. Towers like the Burj Khalifah, or even towers like the Beekman in New York obviously aren't being built to replace towers that were destroyed. So all of you stay on topic.

canadate
Jan 21, 2010, 3:15 AM
hahaha. I warned you all. If there's something you wanna discuss just make a new topic :tup: NYguy is right about it being different than other constructions sites though..although it also takes a lot for other buildings to get built here..the WTC is on a completely different level..I'm not trying to be negative but it wouldn't have taken this long to build any other buildings here..there's just so many extra factors when dealing with this site. Many of the people that aren't in the loop like we are just think that the workers are moving slow and that isn't the case at all.

Duffstuff129
Jan 21, 2010, 3:16 AM
This thread has been an off-topic discussion by 3 uninformed people for about the last 40 posts.

We're all glad to hear your speculation and rambling ideas about "how it would be really cool if-", but that belongs somewhere else. As I understand it there were about 47 threads made in the other sections where you can post your jabber.

QuarterMileSidewalk
Jan 21, 2010, 3:16 AM
What exactly makes this very different?

Primarily, this project is not driven by pure commercial speculation, as most skyscrapers have been, particularly in the States. It is driven by the need to restore, but not completely replace (or is it the other way around?) the iconic image of the Lower Manhattan skyline that was ripped away on September 11. Probably in most people's minds, any commercial concerns at this site are secondary to the emotional and memorial concerns. Which is why these towers need to be awesome: The best (in every way) buildings the modern city can imagine.

Secondarily, the World Trade Center site contains some of lower Manhattan's most vital infrastructure. Multiple subway and commuter rail lines tunneled under the Twin Towers, as well as electrical and water utilities. All seven levels of it were surrounded by a concrete "bathtub" to keep it from becoming a swamp, and capped by 220 floors of steel and concrete, which shredded everything it collapsed into. The phrase "difficult at best" would aptly describe the efforts to remove and replace all of that. And build a Memorial Museum and FOUR new supertall towers in between it all. During a long and severe recession.

:tup:

canadate
Jan 21, 2010, 3:26 AM
Primarily, this project is not driven by pure commercial speculation, as most skyscrapers have been, particularly in the States. It is driven by the need to restore, but not completely replace (or is it the other way around?) the iconic image of the Lower Manhattan skyline that was ripped away on September 11. Probably in most people's minds, any commercial concerns at this site are secondary to the emotional and memorial concerns. Which is why these towers need to be awesome: The best (in every way) buildings the modern city can imagine.

Secondarily, the World Trade Center site contains some of lower Manhattan's most vital infrastructure. Multiple subway and commuter rail lines tunneled under the Twin Towers, as well as electrical and water utilities. All seven levels of it were surrounded by a concrete "bathtub" to keep it from becoming a swamp, and capped by 220 floors of steel and concrete, which shredded everything it collapsed into. The phrase "difficult at best" would aptly describe the efforts to remove and replace all of that. And build a Memorial Museum and FOUR new supertall towers in between it all. During a long and severe recession.

:tup:

Thanks for the complete explanation! I was too lazy to completely explain and probably couldn't have explained it as well as you just did.

sw5710
Jan 21, 2010, 3:30 AM
So monday before red steel is added to the 6th floor?

NYguy
Jan 21, 2010, 3:31 AM
Primarily, this project is not driven by pure commercial speculation, as most skyscrapers have been, particularly in the States. It is driven by the need to restore, but not completely replace (or is it the other way around?) the iconic image of the Lower Manhattan skyline that was ripped away on September 11.

It's both to replace and restore. There wasn't much hope early on to building towers as high as the original complex, but it soon became clear that the public wanted the skyline restored. It was almost certain Silverstein would rebuild the office space (in fact, he was obligated to). But the public wanted the skyline restored to with the "iconic" element that the WTC provided. I remember going to the "listening to the city" event at the Javits back in 2002. It was pretty much a given even then that a very tall tower would restore the skyline. We have had other tall office proposals in Manhattan since then (all in Midtown) and a very tall residential Downtown ( the 1,050 ft 1 NY Place) but all the rebuilding on the WTC site is primarily a result of the 9/11 attacks.

QuarterMileSidewalk
Jan 21, 2010, 3:37 AM
^Agreed, then.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 21, 2010, 4:21 PM
On Earthcam it looks like the second last floor of the base is complete. They are currently working on the core, so they will complete the last base floor soon!

37TimPPG
Jan 21, 2010, 4:27 PM
Looks like the North Crane should be making a jump soon.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 21, 2010, 4:42 PM
Looks like the North Crane should be making a jump soon.

Yes, but why do they always jump the south core before the north??

NYguy
Jan 21, 2010, 6:31 PM
Nice pan from rwchicago (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rwchicago/4292316514/sizes/o/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2688/4292316514_626bfce5e3_o.jpg

uakoops
Jan 21, 2010, 6:47 PM
Looks like the North Crane should be making a jump soon.

Jumping now!

Domamania
Jan 21, 2010, 9:08 PM
I think within tomorrow to saturday the inner core will be complete and mon or tue the red steel is going up. but this its the toughest floor becase this is the trasition from base to office floors. but once this floor is complete then as superman says up up and away, tower will rise.

evanmack
Jan 22, 2010, 1:57 AM
From the pictures I've seen of the construction and the renderings, I'm guessing that the white glass is suppose to match pretty much what it looks like now? It seems to wide now, or do they still have a little ways to go?

NYguy
Jan 22, 2010, 6:59 AM
Kristina Just (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kristinajust/4293640297/sizes/l/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4293640297_5d4d98e9e7_b.jpg


morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4293732990/sizes/l/) (Jan 21)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4017/4293732990_df678e01dd_b.jpg

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 22, 2010, 2:40 PM
Wow, good progress. How tall are those amazing cranes on the tower?? (only the cranes). I like them.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 22, 2010, 7:10 PM
Yea, Earthcam shows the same like the photo posted by NYGuy: The northern crane is up now and the second last base floor is complete! They can now start with the last floor of the base. Afterwards, the tower can go up, one floor after the other! :cheers:

canadate
Jan 22, 2010, 7:38 PM
Yea, Earthcam shows the same like the photo posted by NYGuy: The northern crane is up now and the second last base floor is complete! They can now start with the last floor of the base. Afterwards, the tower can go up, one floor after the other! :cheers:

I'm kinda confused by what you're saying..You're saying that they can now start with the last floor?? I thought they started it like 2 days ago..at least that's what the pictures show... Or am I wrong? No offense or anything, I'm just trying to clear things up.

uaarkson
Jan 22, 2010, 7:45 PM
the top of the core steel is the first office floor.

Domamania
Jan 22, 2010, 8:32 PM
well lest say in simple terms, its the transition from base to tower.the next level that they started on 4 days ago is the ceiling of the base and the floor and the office part of the building. I hope i clarified things a bit.

Zensteeldude
Jan 22, 2010, 11:32 PM
Looks like they are changing out the boom of the south tower crane. (it's too short to be the boom of the north crane)

http://archives.earthcam.com/archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzrobotic1.jpg

the one and only
Jan 22, 2010, 11:40 PM
oneworldtrdecenter you need to chill foreal :tup:
after more than 8 years its finally amazing to see this tower rising. one quetion, will they place the spire by sections or how are they planning to do it?

Domamania
Jan 22, 2010, 11:58 PM
why are they doing that to the cranes?

Zensteeldude
Jan 23, 2010, 12:09 AM
It may have been damaged or failed it's last inspection. They may also be shortening it.

Cat 328D LCR
Jan 23, 2010, 12:52 AM
I think there shortening it

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/005-1.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/019.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/103.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t183/CAT345BL/115.jpg

Zensteeldude
Jan 23, 2010, 1:14 AM
Great pics Cat 328D LCR !

I dug out the site plan.

The north crane has a 180' boom and is rigged one part single, the south crane has, or had, a 220' boom and is,was, rigged two part single.

I guess they are reconfiguring it to 180' one part single.

Cat 328D LCR
Jan 23, 2010, 1:20 AM
Thanks! I'm waiting to see the 18000 and the 16000 leave. Cant wait to get pics of them leaving

Domamania
Jan 23, 2010, 1:26 AM
Can some one translate to me why they are doing all this work to the cranes i am as lost as a puppy.

Cat 328D LCR
Jan 23, 2010, 1:34 AM
Video of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuO5jGK85uA

Zensteeldude
Jan 23, 2010, 1:41 AM
Oh wow, video too !!!

I guess you have not herd, the 18000 well not be leaving, it's going to be moved east to work the Transit Hub.

Domamania
Jan 23, 2010, 1:46 AM
but why all this crane movement. wont they need these cranes to build the tower.

Zensteeldude
Jan 23, 2010, 1:49 AM
Can some one translate to me why they are doing all this work to the cranes i am as lost as a puppy.

OK, I well try. By making the boom shorter they increase the capacity of the crane. By changing it from a two part to a single part they increase the hoist (lifting) speed. (very important as the tower climes higher)

This does come with a price, shorter reach.

They are not moving the crane just reconfiguring it.

canadate
Jan 23, 2010, 4:29 AM
well lest say in simple terms, its the transition from base to tower.the next level that they started on 4 days ago is the ceiling of the base and the floor and the office part of the building. I hope i clarified things a bit.

:haha: Sorry I wasn't too clear in my last post. When I said last floor I meant last base floor..they started it about 2 days ago correct? I understand the whole base/rest of tower concept, I just wanted to make sure that OneWorldTradeCenter was on the same page..the wording was a little weird in his post (again, no disrespect to him). It seems like he's saying that the floor that they're working on now (the last mech. floor of the base) is the second to last. Wasn't sure what he was trying to say. But thanks for your help anyway, I appreciate it.

Domamania
Jan 23, 2010, 1:07 PM
Does anybody know if the iron workers and crane workers are working today on freedom tower, because they layed my dad off 2 weeks ago so I dont know any new updates anymore.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 23, 2010, 1:41 PM
I'm kinda confused by what you're saying..You're saying that they can now start with the last floor?? I thought they started it like 2 days ago..at least that's what the pictures show... Or am I wrong? No offense or anything, I'm just trying to clear things up.

At first I thought of the core. Now I talked about the floor itsself. It was my mistake, I did not write clear enough.

canadate
Jan 23, 2010, 2:37 PM
At first I thought of the core. Now I talked about the floor itsself. It was my mistake, I did not write clear enough.

Oh ok, gotcha. No problem :tup:

Ghost
Jan 23, 2010, 4:17 PM
Oh no, the tower is going out of the web cam's view :)

Great progress and updates! Keep those photos coming, we really appreciate them.

Pizzuti
Jan 23, 2010, 9:30 PM
So my understanding is that the pace of vertical assent is going to accelerate considerably when the heavy base of the building is completed and they get to ordinary office floors. Is this correct?

Domamania
Jan 23, 2010, 9:37 PM
what happend to the crane work? have they redone the crane?

MadGnome
Jan 23, 2010, 10:58 PM
I'd thought the crane booms wouldn't have to be as long once the tapered corners started in above floor 20, but I didn't expect it this soon. I guessed the corner connector pieces would be the Manitowocs last jobs.

NYguy
Jan 24, 2010, 1:26 PM
Eventually, you folks will relax and just watch the towers rise...trust me, you will. :)

TheeErin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/theeerin/4298505135/sizes/l/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4298505135_ff91306da3_b.jpg


chris.iliffe (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tucker_j/4298094033/sizes/o/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/4298094033_c1372e93f7_o.jpg

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 24, 2010, 1:59 PM
Update from www.rebuildgroundzero.org:

http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg?refresh=60&altText=Groud+Zero+Webcam+-+Rebuild+Ground+Zero+.org&camImgY=768&camImgX=960&imageurl=http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg

2-TOWERS
Jan 24, 2010, 4:23 PM
She Is Looking Good..........

steveve
Jan 24, 2010, 5:11 PM
The site is looking so busy/jam packed now!!!

But the site for towers 2/3 is still empty (but it reminds us of how much more there is to come :banana: !)

OneWorldTradeCenter
Jan 24, 2010, 5:14 PM
The site is looking so busy/jam packed now!!!

But the site for towers 2/3 is still empty (but it reminds us of how much more there is to come :banana: !)

Yes, but I doubt that construction of Towers 2 and 3 will start soon.

Bucktown718
Jan 24, 2010, 11:22 PM
Where can i find more information about the Spire and will it actually have the lights shooting towards the sky?

NYguy
Jan 25, 2010, 2:12 PM
michaelputman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelputman/sets/72157623274953358/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2729/4300362229_25101b2620_o.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4301124246_a73da59d86_o.jpg


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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4300368995_36dc8edb75_o.jpg

2-TOWERS
Jan 25, 2010, 2:59 PM
Thanks For The Pics...as Always................... Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

steveve
Jan 25, 2010, 3:43 PM
I agree... nice updates!

Theres so much steel jam packed into that base... its an epic sight to see!

Zensteeldude
Jan 25, 2010, 9:14 PM
Where can i find more information about the Spire and will it actually have the lights shooting towards the sky?

Your best source may well be this forum. I have posted some info and pics of the prints.

As the design stands now there well be a beam of light shooting up from the top of the spire at night and I don't see any reasion for that to change.

Thanks for the pics NYGuy. mmmmmmmmm crane porn !

CHAPINM1
Jan 26, 2010, 2:19 AM
I am guessing they have to fix all of the "oh shits" before they commence further vertical construction and cladding right? I know they have fixed about 2/3 of them give or take, but the one that I keep noticing is the one on the southwest corner of the base.

Acer1
Jan 26, 2010, 6:16 AM
I sometimes think that instead of them being oh shts, it's left open/loose to fit machinery in there at a later time? I mean, these are mechanical floors, right?

Domamania
Jan 26, 2010, 4:43 PM
Holy cow they are working much faster now they just put up 8 colomns in 4 hours which before they would do that in 8 hours.

xnyr
Jan 26, 2010, 5:20 PM
Want to thank all those who are posting these fascinating pics.. I'm 3K miles away, yet feel like I'm still back home following the progress in person. Some of the pics are even BETTER than being there.

Anyway, it looks to me like the facade is actually suspended from the main tower and that the only load it will carry is the glass.

Is this true, and is it some sort of shock absorber, meant to absorb the energy of an external blast... or am I off in the left field on this??


Jeff

Zensteeldude
Jan 26, 2010, 9:29 PM
I think you are confused by the "louver wall". The empty base (empty of people that is) well provide the protection needed in the event of a truck bomb.

The lobby has protection walls surrounding it.

xnyr
Jan 26, 2010, 10:30 PM
I think you are confused by the "louver wall". The empty base (empty of people that is) well provide the protection needed in the event of a truck bomb.

The lobby has protection walls surrounding it.

I'm sorry if this has been already covered elsewhere, but it looks to me from some of the close-ups that the base facade is suspended from the facade by what look like shock absorbers - as if the base and facade are two separate structures.

So, I quess this is just for for engineereing purposes (i.e. a wall that is flared outward cannot support the tower that wil rise above)

Is that correct?

Thanks

Indescribable
Jan 26, 2010, 11:24 PM
The base looks like a steel fortress.

CHAPINM1
Jan 26, 2010, 11:35 PM
The base looks like a steel fortress.

Don't forget the fuckload of concrete that it's reinforced with!!! lol...

NYguy
Jan 27, 2010, 12:47 AM
Update from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4306559893/sizes/l/) (Jan 26)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2756/4306559893_06f0509c90_b.jpg

colemonkee
Jan 27, 2010, 12:50 AM
From these latest pictures it looks like steel fireproofing has commenced in earnest (the work that normally goes on behind the white sheets). That's another sign that they're approaching a faster vertical steel build timeline, as fireproofing usually trails steel builds in a way that avoids interruption of work (weather permitting). I would look for concrete core work to resume relatively soon too, within the next few weeks or so.

I also see that they're finally filling in the street on the south side to grade. Great progress of late!

Bucktown718
Jan 27, 2010, 1:38 AM
So its only one floor left till office floors right?

Plokoon11
Jan 27, 2010, 2:44 AM
Yes, and they it will become a floor a week.

BrownTown
Jan 27, 2010, 3:19 AM
Yes, and they it will become a floor a week.

Is that going to be possible with the concrete core so far behind? Seems like it has to catch up at some point...

Domamania
Jan 27, 2010, 3:50 AM
Well I guess whet he means by a floor per week is the steel part of the structor. Thats my guess.

steveve
Jan 27, 2010, 4:10 PM
The base looks like a steel fortress.

I was thinking the same thing :haha: !

It would be a sweet map for modern warfare 2 :twoguns: !

RockMont
Jan 27, 2010, 4:18 PM
I can see now, that this thing is going to gather speed, the higher it gets, once it gets past the foundation above the surface. Kind of like a snowball going down hill.

The North One
Jan 28, 2010, 12:33 AM
It would be a sweet map for modern warfare 2 :twoguns: !

Have that game, and I hate it (my brother loves it:rolleyes: )

Its all about L4D2 baby! :twoguns:

(sorry for off topic-ness)

Dac150
Jan 28, 2010, 12:47 AM
Nice to see what progress has been made; on the site as a whole. It's going to begin shooting up soon.