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NewYorker2009

Nov 24, 2013, 2:52 PM

Just a detail question: what is the difference of height between the "rooftop" and the parapet (its height is 417 meters) ?

It seems that the height of the rooftop is around 405 or 410 meters, but I'm not sure about that. The parapet seems to be around 10 meter-high.

Well the rooftop is the flat surface that you can physically stand on atop the building, which is the 105th floor 1,334' 8" or 1,340' 4" from Vesey Street. The parapet is a wall that extends above the roof 1,368' 0" or 1,373' 8". What sucks is that the roof or 105th floor doesn't exceed the original North Tower. The parapet is what reaches the North Tower's height. I just wish the communication ring was included because it exceeds 1,400'.

NewYorque

Nov 24, 2013, 7:46 PM

My concept of a new spire

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QUEENSNYMAN

Nov 24, 2013, 11:37 PM

Hey everyone my latest video from this evening:

By QUEENSNY121:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elwHs36M01Q&feature=youtu.be

IntoTheLens827

Nov 24, 2013, 11:52 PM

Hey everyone my latest video from this evening:

By QUEENSNY121:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elwHs36M01Q&feature=youtu.be

Good Video Joe! Hope All Is Well With You. -Greg.

IntoTheLens827

Nov 25, 2013, 12:17 AM

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3773/11013457103_4e04cb0822.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfantasticphotography/11013457103/)
manhattan dawn/comet ison/mercury/saturn; 11/23/2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfantasticphotography/11013457103/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/plasticfantasticphotography/), on flickr
awsome pic! :-)

21bl0wed

Nov 25, 2013, 12:46 AM

Hey everyone my latest video from this evening:

By QUEENSNY121:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elwHs36M01Q&feature=youtu.be

Thanks for the vid. Can't wait to see 432 pa from that spot

mrjoanofarc

Nov 25, 2013, 6:12 AM

My concept of a new spire
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b481/preylsalmas2/1WTCSP_zps7190ccc4.png

I like it! With the spire so tall and frail-looking, yet with the awesome lighting capabilities... It only makes sense to raise its profile as something truly presentable. In yo' face, Banksy. (Not really lol... But still. We're making the best with what we've got. And it can be improved! 1 WTC can be an even more amazing, stylish, iconic building, even though it's mostly done. It's the creative flourishes.)

NYguy

Nov 25, 2013, 6:04 PM

Just a detail question: what is the difference of height between the "rooftop" and the parapet (its height is 417 meters) ?

It seems that the height of the rooftop is around 405 or 410 meters, but I'm not sure about that. The parapet seems to be around 10 meter-high.

The parapet extends below what would be considered the actual roof height if it didn't exist.

tigermakrill (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27327678@N02/11048811505/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

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John Skelson (http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnskelson/10965635854/sizes/o/in/photostream/)

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Guiltyspark

Nov 25, 2013, 9:11 PM

Oakydoke

Nov 26, 2013, 12:54 AM

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3773/11013457103_4e04cb0822.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfantasticphotography/11013457103/)
Manhattan Dawn/Comet ISON/Mercury/Saturn; 11/23/2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfantasticphotography/11013457103/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/plasticfantasticphotography/), on Flickr

Great weather for that shot! An early day and a beautiful outcome..
Thanks for posting it!

deepen915

Nov 26, 2013, 2:13 PM

http://gizmodo.com/the-wtcs-security-center-will-be-topped-by-an-elevated-1471601163

"As the NYPD and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey iron out the final plans for the World Trade Center site, new details are emerging—including this week's news that the roof of the site's vehicle security checkpoint at the WTC will be occupied by a lovely elevated park."

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/197huk088zz0djpg/ku-xlarge.jpg

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/197hw7wszrvtajpg/ku-xlarge.jpg

NewYorque

Nov 26, 2013, 9:17 PM

Guiltyspark

Nov 26, 2013, 9:31 PM

Why can't they just leave it empty? It's already built and filling it with concrete seems impractical, expensive and pointless.

Also, as far as the park above the security station, we have been aware of that for awhile. I have not seen those particular renderings before though.

Silverfox

Nov 26, 2013, 10:18 PM

I would like you to tell me your opinion about this:

Please look at this picture:

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b481/preylsalmas2/creux2_zps220625ba.png

How will they deal deal with the empty spaces in the angles?

I guess they cannot leave it empty. Will they pour it with concrete?

A lot of buildings have empty space like that. Almost every shopping mall I know of does, among other things. Ornamental facades sometimes hide old facades or revisions.

Roadcruiser1

Nov 27, 2013, 1:22 AM

I would like you to tell me your opinion about this:

Please look at this picture:

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b481/preylsalmas2/creux2_zps220625ba.png

How will they deal deal with the empty spaces in the angles?

I guess they cannot leave it empty. Will they pour it with concrete?

Nothing. It won't be hollow. Those corners have been fitted with non structural steel for the glass to come in. The corners won't be visible once the glass is completely put in..........

weidncol

Nov 27, 2013, 2:45 AM

Nothing. It won't be hollow. Those corners have been fitted with non structural steel for the glass to come in. The corners won't be visible once the glass is completely put in..........

I think he's talking about the inside of the base; what they will do with the empty space in there... And they won't do anything, you can't even tell once your inside

cadiomals

Nov 27, 2013, 5:57 AM

Why would it even need to be filled? It's already got the steel supports for the glass facade, it's not like anyone's going to see what's behind them.

drumz0rz

Nov 27, 2013, 3:03 PM

NewYorque

Nov 27, 2013, 4:50 PM

Storage closets with really really high ceilings? It does seem like a waste. Especially when you consider how much more engineering and cost went into building the angled corners, just to cover them up with a thin steel frame and some glass.

That is what I was thinking too. I guess it costed millions to design those corners. Now that they decided to make a cubic base, they cannot just leave it behing a thin sheet of glass.

wong21fr

Nov 27, 2013, 5:03 PM

That is what I was thinking too. I guess it costed millions to design those corners. Now that they decided to make a cubic base, they cannot just leave it behing a thin sheet of glass.

Why not? The area at the interior base of the triangle that the new corners form isn't super large and it's not very useful. Putting a corner newspaper stand in each of the corners is probably something that could be done, but that's just silly. Maybe the space could be used to house a little police outpost... which is even sillier. Besides, you'd have to cut through 'da bunker wall to access the space for the interior and that would end up compromising the blast mitigation design that went into the base.

It's deadspace that probably cost $10 million in a $4 billion tower: that's nothing.

Chapelo

Nov 27, 2013, 9:00 PM

There is one upside to the corners not being filled in. They could always remove the supports and go back to the chamfered base in a future renovation.

Camstonisland

Nov 28, 2013, 12:23 AM

There is one upside to the corners not being filled in. They could always remove the supports and go back to the chamfered base in a future renovation.
... possibly during which, the new owner might clad the spire in radome like it deserves.
But most likely, the owner when Silverstein's contract runs out will be just as careless...

Hudson11

Nov 28, 2013, 1:04 AM

But most likely, the owner when Silverstein's contract runs out will be just as careless...
1 WTC belongs to the Port Authority, not Silverstein properties.

Silverfox

Nov 28, 2013, 1:34 AM

I thought the main reason for the chamfered corners is that they're more supportive than straight beams, much like a truss. Either way, they don't take up a significant amount of useable space, and the lobby doesn't have to be any larger than it already is in order to serve its purpose. I think people would be surprised at how many buildings are like this.

Camstonisland

Nov 28, 2013, 2:45 AM

THE REBUILDING OF GROUND ZERO
The Freedom Tower

The Museum displays some of the proposed plans for the rebuilding of Ground Zero following 9/11, including a 10-foot scale model for the first proposed design for the Freedom Tower by Daniel Libeskind and SOM.

The Freedom Tower at The Skyscraper Museum
Completion: 1st quarter 2012
Height: 1,362 ft.; spire: 1,776 ft.; 84 stories
GBA: 3,500,000 sq. ft.
Developer: Silverstein Properties, Inc.
Development Manager: World Trade Center Properties, LLC; an affiliate of Silverstein Properties, Inc.
Architect: Skidmore, Owings & Merrill LLP
Structural Engineers: WSP Cantor Seinuk; Schlaich Bergermann und Partner
MEP Engineer: Jaros Baum & Bolles, Inc.
Construction Manager: Tishman Construction Corporation
Sustainability Consultants: Jaros Baum & Bolles, Inc.; Green Order
LEED Rating: Pending Gold

http://skyscraper.org/EXHIBITIONS/permanent.htm

I thought it was owned by the Port Authority, but under some contract, Silverstein owned it. Then again, the Skyscraper Museum website wasn't updated in quite a while...

weidncol

Nov 28, 2013, 3:22 AM

I thought it was owned by the Port Authority, but under some contract, Silverstein owned it. Then again, the Skyscraper Museum website wasn't updated in quite a while...

The Port Authority owns it. Silverstein owns 2, 3 and 7 WTC.

NYC GUY

Nov 28, 2013, 5:32 AM

The Port Authority owns it. Silverstein owns 2, 3 and 7 WTC.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think

1. 1 WTC
2. Transportation Hub (Both Owned by Port Authority)

3. 2 WTC
4. 3 WTC
5. 4 WTC (ALL 4 Owned by Silverstein
6. 7 WTC

9/11 Memorial/Museum (Owned by Port Authority but run by 9/11 Memorial Group

5 WTC (Port Authority I think)

Camstonisland

Nov 28, 2013, 2:03 PM

Thank you for clearing that up! the WTC is very confusing...

Roadcruiser1

Nov 28, 2013, 2:24 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think

1. 1 WTC
2. Transportation Hub (Both Owned by Port Authority)

3. 2 WTC
4. 3 WTC
5. 4 WTC (ALL 4 Owned by Silverstein
6. 7 WTC

9/11 Memorial/Museum (Owned by Port Authority but run by 9/11 Memorial Group

5 WTC (Port Authority I think)

Correct.

Now I am going to share my pictures from yesterday. Have fun looking.

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Link to my Flickr..........http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadcruiser1/

NYguy

Nov 28, 2013, 4:46 PM

1 WTC belongs to the Port Authority, not Silverstein properties.

The Port Authority and the Durst Organization.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think

1. 1 WTC
2. Transportation Hub (Both Owned by Port Authority)

3. 2 WTC
4. 3 WTC
5. 4 WTC (ALL 4 Owned by Silverstein
6. 7 WTC

9/11 Memorial/Museum (Owned by Port Authority but run by 9/11 Memorial Group

5 WTC (Port Authority I think)

Technically the Port Authority owns all of Silversteins towers as well (minus 7), but he signed a 99 year lease for the space in 2001.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7368/11099550496_aedc8972e9_c.jpg

If you want to get technical, the tower is taller on this side. So just add 6 ft to the 1,368 and 1,776 ft height figures when you view from this side. This mockery courtesy of the CTBUH.

shinnyryan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/99655368@N00/11091317816/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7407/11091317816_f6c5332e0d_b.jpg

k31thw (http://www.flickr.com/photos/webley/11091008215/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

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Roadcruiser1

Nov 28, 2013, 11:55 PM

Just found out that those office lights are in fact an office on the 63rd floor.

From W.T.C. Progress.

"One WTC’s 63rd floor marketing center features great views of the New York Harbor."

https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/988765_566398023437440_1062931830_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/988765_566398023437440_1062931830_n.jpg

Credits go to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey..........

manchester united

Nov 30, 2013, 3:19 PM

http://skyscraper.org/EXHIBITIONS/permanent.htm

84 floors : this is the exact number !!! To change the title.

QUEENSNYMAN

Nov 30, 2013, 4:07 PM

Good morning all here is my latest video from Brooklyn's 69th Street pier early this morning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SGM7ngQt0I&feature=c4-overview&list=UUa3fF4f0jp_YrtzeCuNTf5A

weidncol

Nov 30, 2013, 5:21 PM

http://skyscraper.org/EXHIBITIONS/permanent.htm

84 floors : this is the exact number !!! To change the title.

No, there is way more than 84 floors... The height needs to be changed, however. Pinnacle should be 1,776ft and height to roof should be 1,368ft. I don't know why you put the height as measured from lowest entrance whenever that's not the official measurement.
http://skyscrapercenter.com/new-york-city/one-world-trade-center/98/

And they say there is 104 because the mechanical floors. They usually count as 2 floors as those floors are typically taller.

N830MH

Dec 2, 2013, 5:37 AM

And they say there is 104 because the mechanical floors. They usually count as 2 floors as those floors are typically taller.

What about elevator shaft? Hasn't they already install it?

MadGnome

Dec 2, 2013, 1:12 PM

No, there is way more than 84 floors... The height needs to be changed, however. Pinnacle should be 1,776ft and height to roof should be 1,368ft. I don't know why you put the height as measured from lowest entrance whenever that's not the official measurement.
http://skyscrapercenter.com/new-york-city/one-world-trade-center/98/

And they say there is 104 because the mechanical floors. They usually count as 2 floors as those floors are typically taller.

Then how do you explain floor 20 being the one above floor 6?
Height in floors starting with floor 20 is determined by the height above the lowest level, around 70 feet underground, divided by 13'4". For some reason the geniuses who came up with the floor plan use the term "floor" to mean floor count up to the 6th, and as a unit of measurement from 20 up.

hunser

Dec 2, 2013, 2:22 PM

^ Yes, the floor plan may seem a bit silly. But I see it like this: Height to parapet: 417m. Ceiling height: 4.064m. Now 417/4.064=102.6. So for me the tower is the equivalent of a 102-story building. :)

MercurySky

Dec 3, 2013, 1:40 AM

I apologize if this had been covered here before but how are the fins on the base moved? Are they controlled automatically or are they moved manually from inside. Is there a method to the pattern? Thanks

eleven=11

Dec 3, 2013, 3:13 AM

CityGuy87

Dec 3, 2013, 5:29 AM

actually I was wondering how are they lit up ??
I guess some sort of LED light.......

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/43484725.jpg

That should explain it for you! :tup:

NYguy

Dec 3, 2013, 8:00 AM

December 1, 2013

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NYC2013

Dec 3, 2013, 7:30 PM

The Port Authority and the Durst Organization.

Technically the Port Authority owns all of Silversteins towers as well (minus 7), but he signed a 99 year lease for the space in 2001.

If you want to get technical, the tower is taller on this side. So just add 6 ft to the 1,368 and 1,776 ft height figures when you view from this side. This mockery courtesy of the CTBUH.

shinnyryan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/99655368@N00/11091317816/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7407/11091317816_f6c5332e0d_b.jpg

k31thw (http://www.flickr.com/photos/webley/11091008215/sizes/h/in/photostream/)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2872/11091008215_d0af75efc8_h.jpg

Since when did they start lighting up the antenna on top of the ESB?

franktko

Dec 3, 2013, 7:44 PM

Since when did they start lighting up the antenna on top of the ESB?

A month ago

http://www.core77.com/blog/architecture/the_empire_state_building_debuts_new_antenna_lights_with_a_halloween_light_show_by_marc_brickman_25837.asp

Roadcruiser1

Dec 3, 2013, 7:47 PM

NYguy

Dec 3, 2013, 8:03 PM

I haven't noticed this, but then again I'm usually listening to something else...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/03/incredible-and-eerie-video-just-listen-to-the-haunting-sounds-coming-from-the-new-world-trade-center/

Incredible and Eerie Video: Just Listen to the Haunting Sounds Coming From the New World Trade Center

Dec. 3, 2013
Liz Klimas

One World Trade Center, sitting on the original six-building complex of the World Trade Center that was attacked by terrorists on Sept. 11, 2001, has been filmed from various, dizzying angles with its completion this year and was recently named the tallest building in the United States.

But aside from its impressive looks, there’s another feature that has received less attention but is well-known to those who find themselves on the lower side of Manhattan on a windy day.

The building, colloquially known as the Freedom Tower, emits an eerie, haunting sound in high wind storms.

Take a listen:

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The above recording appears to have been taken recently, but it’s not the first time the sound has been documented.

This video records the high-pitched howling of the building during Superstorm Sandy last year:

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And this one was filmed in January 2013:

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Roadcruiser1

Dec 3, 2013, 8:12 PM

hunser

Dec 4, 2013, 1:59 PM

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2880/10827653024_71c0b56620_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flysi/10827653024/)
1 WTC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flysi/10827653024/) by FlySi (http://www.flickr.com/people/flysi/), on Flickr

mrnyc

Dec 4, 2013, 4:51 PM

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QUEENSNYMAN

Dec 4, 2013, 7:07 PM

Love those above shots, those are from Staten Island right? If so how far from ferry terminal?

OptimumPx

Dec 4, 2013, 7:54 PM

Finally someone came out with a high quality model of 1 WTC! :D

The people over at Infocus Tech just came out with a 150 scale version.

http://www.replicabuildings.com/prodimages/freedom-tower-one-world-trade-center-replica-scale-souvenir-model.JPG
http://www.replicabuildings.com/proddetail.php?prod=812

weidncol

Dec 5, 2013, 1:19 AM

The netting around the Communication Rings has FINALLY been removed.

mrnyc

Dec 5, 2013, 5:26 AM

Love those above shots, those are from Staten Island right? If so how far from ferry terminal?

yes it's the 9/11 memorial on staten island. it's not very far from the ferry terminal, just past the ballpark. to get your bearings, you can see it as the ferry pulls in. i took the one with the seagull while walking along the waterfront on the way over there. pretty soon we will have the big new s.i. ferris wheel just past it!

NYguy

Dec 5, 2013, 2:18 PM

There are some dramatic shots of the Freedom Tower sticking out above the dense fog on tv right now. Hopefully there will be some photos of it.

NYguy

Dec 5, 2013, 8:32 PM

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/24144276/heavy-fog-engulfs-1-world-trade-center

Heavy fog engulfs 1 World Trade Center

http://wnyw.images.worldnow.com/images/3056824_G.jpg

By KATHY CARVAJAL
Dec. 5, 2013 (MYFOXNY)

Much of the tristate region was under a dense fog advisory on Thursday.

Visibility was greatly reduced in New York City and particularly in lower Manhattan.

FOX 5 morning program Good Day NY aired video of a fog-engulfed 1 World Trade Center.

Only the top of the building and its 408-foot needle could be seen.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153657600/original.jpg

Hudson11

Dec 5, 2013, 8:46 PM

nice. earlier it was proper zombie time weather.

Skyguy_7

Dec 5, 2013, 8:54 PM

^^ Ha, even Good Day NY taking a jab at the "408 foot needle" (pun intended)

NYguy

Dec 6, 2013, 2:06 AM

^ They regularly take good shots of the tower, including close ups.

Here's a distant view, and a different take on the emerging city skyline...

Darryl Bond (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kiwibonds/11204811095/sizes/o/in/photostream/)

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Otie

Dec 6, 2013, 2:22 PM

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NYguy

Dec 6, 2013, 2:30 PM

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153657600/original.jpg

Similar shots...

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Roadcruiser1

Dec 6, 2013, 9:06 PM

Eerily similar. Credits to Yahoo........

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QUEENSNYMAN

Dec 6, 2013, 11:11 PM

Guiltyspark

Dec 7, 2013, 5:20 AM

It may not happen for 30 or 40 years, but I can't wait till there is something downtown taller by roof height than 1WTCs mast is. That will be truly epic.

L1011driver

Dec 7, 2013, 5:56 AM

I like the building. But that Antenna, Spire, Spiretenna...whatever you want to call it looks cheap. Honestly, it belongs on some ubiquitous 1970s modernist apartment building in Buenos Aires, not on NYC's tallest building. It's a letdown to me.

QUEENSNYMAN

Dec 7, 2013, 3:40 PM

Hey everyone I treated myself to an early Christmas Present, I bought a One World Trade Center mode, ck out my video:

By QUEENSNY121:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KHWyAmc65I&feature=c4-overview&list=UUa3fF4f0jp_YrtzeCuNTf5A

Eidolon

Dec 9, 2013, 10:21 PM

Condé Nast to share 1 WTC with US Army officials (http://nypost.com/2013/12/09/conde-nast-to-share-1-wtc-with-us-army-officials/)
By Steve Cuozzo
December 9, 2013

"Condé Nast superstar editors Anna Wintour and Graydon Carter will be sharing their glamorous new 1 World Trade Center digs with US Army sandhogs.

The US Army Corp of Engineers, as well as the US Customs and Border Protection agency and the federal General Services Administration, will move into the iconic tower in 2015, according to a source briefed on the moves.

They will occupy 268,000 square feet of space, which the GSA leased last year from 1 WTC’s owners, the Port Authority and the Durst Organization.

Nice to see 1 WTC getting some more tenants.
:cheers:

chris08876

Dec 11, 2013, 2:12 AM

Westfield to Buy World Trade Center Retail Stake

Westfield Group (WDC), Australia’s biggest shopping mall operator, will invest $800 million to take full control of the retail space at New York’s World Trade Center.

The company agreed to buy Port Authority of New York and New Jersey’s 50 percent stake in the retail part of lower Manhattan’s World Trade Center site, bringing its investment in the property to more than $1.4 billion, the Sydney-based company and the Port Authority said in separate statements yesterday.

Joint Venture

Westfield first acquired a 99-year lease interest in the retail concourse at the original trade center six weeks before it was destroyed in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and sold it back to the Port Authority in December 2003. The group agreed in July 2011 to pay $612.5 million to take a half stake in a joint venture with the Port Authority to develop the center. The retail complex is scheduled to open in 2015.

The project will encompass about 365,000 square feet (34,000 square meters) of retail space, with another 90,000 square feet to be added in future, according to the statement.
=========================================
Iain McDonald and Nichola Saminather , Dec 5, 2013
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-04/westfield-to-buy-world-trade-center-retail-stake.html

Fishman92

Dec 11, 2013, 6:00 PM

^ Why have you just quoted 2 of the first few posts in this thread for no reason... on page 1,709?

theWatusi

Dec 12, 2013, 2:29 AM

^^signature spammer

banned him

N830MH

Dec 12, 2013, 5:22 AM

^^signature spammer

banned him

You can deleted him if you want. Go ahead. I don't like spamming the post. He will reset his post count back to zero.

NYguy

Dec 13, 2013, 1:01 AM

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supertallchaser

Dec 13, 2013, 1:25 AM

when will the external elevator be removed?

Silverfox

Dec 13, 2013, 8:12 AM

when will the external elevator be removed?

There is no exact date. It'll be removed when they finish installing the equipment that's too large to fit inside of the normal elevators.

Streamliner

Dec 13, 2013, 9:12 PM

Photo of the Blue Angels flyby of the World Trade Center

http://imgick.nj.com/home/njo-media/pgmain/img/jersey-journal/photo/2013/12/-7baa22fe7a023b47.JPG

Source (http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2013/12/photos_blue_angels_stage_flyover_near_one_world_trade_center.html)

N830MH

Dec 14, 2013, 4:38 AM

when will the external elevator be removed?

Probably not anytime soon. I think they will keep external elevator in a few month or so.

Thaniel

Dec 14, 2013, 5:03 AM

Probably not anytime soon. I think they will keep external elevator in a few month or so.

I really thought they were planning to wrap up the whole thing by the end of December. I thought the elevator would be gone by now too.

I was kinda hoping they would complete the building on Dec 23. The original North Tower of the WTC was completed Dec 23, 1970.

NewYorker2009

Dec 14, 2013, 2:15 PM

I really thought they were planning to wrap up the whole thing by the end of December. I thought the elevator would be gone by now too.

I was kinda hoping they would complete the building on Dec 23. The original North Tower of the WTC was completed Dec 23, 1970.

That was the day of the topping-out ceremony for the North Tower. The Towers weren't completed externally until 1974.

Thaniel

Dec 16, 2013, 12:16 AM

That was the day of the topping-out ceremony for the North Tower. The Towers weren't completed externally until 1974.

You might be right. I had read that on Wiki a while back and it had said completed. I know the whole complex was opened officially on April 4, 1973.

Edit: yeah you're right "December 1970 - The North Tower of the WTC is topped off at 1,368 feet on December 23". It actually had tenants move in a few weeks before that too.

hunser

Dec 16, 2013, 1:42 PM

Thanks to NanoMini & NYCrulz! :cheers:

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sterlippo1

Dec 16, 2013, 5:47 PM

^^^ those are jaw dropping pics:worship:

weidncol

Dec 16, 2013, 5:52 PM

You can use pics I post on SSC as well ;)

jthornton17

Dec 16, 2013, 9:19 PM

I don't think I've ever seen an uglier spire on top of a more beautiful building. It reminds me of some places that has a trailer right across from a beautiful home.

ThatOneGuy

Dec 16, 2013, 10:07 PM

^^ A giant joint on top would have been uglier. Plus the ESB's antenna looks far worse.

Guiltyspark

Dec 17, 2013, 1:18 AM

^^ A giant joint on top would have been uglier. Plus the ESB's antenna looks far worse.

The ESB's antenna is an antenna, this is supposedly a spire. And honestly, the antenna on ESB looks better than this.

Submariner

Dec 17, 2013, 1:23 AM

The ESB's antenna is an antenna, this is supposedly a spire. And honestly, the antenna on ESB looks better than this.

It certainly blends in better with the facade.

They really effed it up, and the comms ring too. It looks like they forgot to finish the job.

NYguy

Dec 17, 2013, 1:58 AM

I don't think I've ever seen an uglier spire on top of a more beautiful building. It reminds me of some places that has a trailer right across from a beautiful home.

^^ A giant joint on top would have been uglier. Plus the ESB's antenna looks far worse.

As I always said, had they ruled this an antenna, that would have taken the burden of "appearance" off the so called spire.
The Empire State Building antenna at least doesn't have that burden, but even as is, the antenna there is much more suited for the building than the "spire" here.

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N830MH

Dec 17, 2013, 4:25 AM

Is that completed?

Derchin

Dec 17, 2013, 4:36 AM

Finally some new pictures.

UTEPman

Dec 17, 2013, 4:55 AM

The facade on 4WTC is so good in those pics, it makes the building look almost invisible. That is crazy...

NYguy

Dec 17, 2013, 1:24 PM

Is that completed?

Won't be completed for a while.

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hunser

Dec 17, 2013, 1:27 PM

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FMIII

Dec 17, 2013, 2:06 PM

The tower is not perfect and the antennae is far from looking good. Nonetheless, as an admirer of the former twins, I have to admit that this tower does its job pretty well to replace them. It is a tribute to the twins's design in a more modern way and its presence is almost as strong as what was there before. Considering what happened on this site, it is, in itself, a real tour de force which should be underlined more often. :tup:

Camstonisland

Dec 17, 2013, 4:15 PM

If you are to lazy to put radome on the spire and communications ring, cover the spire in whatever the Willis Tower's antennae has (is it radome?) and cover that ring in glass in the very least.

weidncol

Dec 17, 2013, 9:35 PM

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