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NYguy

Oct 23, 2007, 12:54 PM

More shots from wtcrising.com

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/concretepour3_big.jpg

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/concretepour4_big.jpg

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/concretepour5_big.jpg

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/concretepour6_big.jpg

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/concretepo7_big.jpg

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/concretepour8_big.jpg

M.K.

Oct 23, 2007, 1:37 PM

^^^ Photo #2 seems in oneway another world... Nice to see this green concrete arm very long uptodown boxes... 'Helping build Freedom Tower' it is cool now something will rise soon.

Daquan13

Oct 23, 2007, 2:34 PM

That shot of the tower cranes (one of them carrying the concrete bucket) up close with 7 WTC in the upper right-hand corner is very dramatic and phrnominal!!

This building is probably the most talked-about construction project in all of New York!!

NYguy

Oct 24, 2007, 7:37 PM

This building is probably the most talked-about construction project in all of New York!!

On the planet, most likely...:yes:

Daquan13

Oct 24, 2007, 8:17 PM

On the planet, most likely...:yes:

Exactly!

Mainly, I think, because it will be the 2nd office tower (7 wtc was the 1st) to pierce the skyline for Ground Zero!!;).:tup:

NYguy

Oct 24, 2007, 11:28 PM

Day or night, Freedom must rise...

(wtcrising.com)

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/nightshotconcreete%20pour_big.jpg

tone99loc

Oct 25, 2007, 1:15 AM

That green concrete pump is amazing!

Daquan13

Oct 25, 2007, 1:32 AM

Day or night, Freedom must rise...

(wtcrising.com)

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/nightshotconcreete%20pour_big.jpg

Great night shot with the sunset in the background, NYguy!!;)

But you're right! I would imagine that they must work at night to keep on schedule and meet the construction timetable.

I'd love to have this as my avator someday, so I think I'll do just that!!

aluminum

Oct 28, 2007, 4:59 PM

I found these pictures on this website, http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/301486/SID/326718/blFP/1

I might've asked this question before but, does anyone knows what are these :
http://photos-001.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v136/5/49/718239001/n718239001_380126_118.jpg

http://photos-001.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v136/5/49/718239001/n718239001_380127_277.jpg

Gavlebocken

Oct 28, 2007, 7:20 PM

On the planet, most likely...:yes:

Not sure about that... of course I can only speak for myself, but here in Sweden I read alot more about the Burj Dubai in the newspapers. I guess Dubai feels more exotic then NY. Still a great project though and it will be interesting to follow it as it gets built.

aluminum

Oct 28, 2007, 9:59 PM

On the planet, most likely...:yes:

Not in Canada, most of the time we read news about Burj Dubai passing the CN Tower, or sometimes about the Chicago spire.

If that ^ is the situation here ( around 500 miles from NYC), what do you expect in Europe or the far east ? What makes you say 'planet' ?

Dac150

Oct 28, 2007, 10:00 PM

Nope, I think its the most known project on the planet in present time.

CoolCzech

Oct 29, 2007, 12:37 AM

Not in Canada, most of the time we read news about Burj Dubai passing the CN Tower, or sometimes about the Chicago spire.

If that ^ is the situation here ( around 500 miles from NYC), what do you expect in Europe or the far east ? What makes you say 'planet' ?

Well, for starters... JMGarcia travels all over the globe, and has testified that he is accosted with questions about the FT wherever he goes.

Why don't you try a little exercise, aluminum: Query "Freedom Tower" in Google News and see how many international news stories pop up. Me thinks it will be an education for a dude obviously in need of one...

Matt08642

Oct 29, 2007, 1:09 AM

I live in Canada and I haven't seen or heard shit about FT in the papers or on the news. :(

aluminum

Oct 29, 2007, 1:11 AM

^^^ Exactly what I said, fellow Canadian. Most discussed, eh ?. Need a better proof, Czech ?

CoolCzech

Oct 29, 2007, 1:27 AM

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=&q=%22Freedom+Tower%22&btnG=Search+News

DOH!

CarlosV

Oct 29, 2007, 1:29 AM

what is this exactly??

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/concretepour8_big.jpg

aluminum

Oct 29, 2007, 2:19 AM

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=&q=%22Freedom+Tower%22&btnG=Search+News

DOH!

Well, words such as "tower" and "freedom" can be quite common in articles.

Dalton

Oct 29, 2007, 2:44 AM

When the Freedom Tower rises above street level you can bet it will be a big news story around the world.

Right now though, it is off the radar screen virtually everywhere except New York. I don't mean any offense by this - it is simply the truth. Most people do not understand the complexity of the underground work and don't see all this underground activity as "progress", they see it as an embarrassment.

harryc

Oct 29, 2007, 3:24 PM

innov8

Oct 30, 2007, 4:20 AM

With the rain tiring to put a damper on my day, I hit the streets of the city.
Since I was last at the site four years ago, a lot has changed. I was
disappointed with the base of WTC7... what an unfriendly tower to walk up
to on the street. Anyway, great to see work being done at the site even on Saturdays.

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/6166/wtc1fjpg20071027copydt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8313/wtc2fjpg20071027copymj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8248/wtc3fjpg20071027copyxt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1089/wtc4fjpg20071027copypp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Daquan13

Oct 30, 2007, 5:34 AM

Not much visibility of the columns left. They'll slowly being encased in the concrete.

All but a few feet will be left to secure the other columns when thay come.

NYguy

Oct 30, 2007, 6:15 PM

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1089/wtc4fjpg20071027copypp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Like the view of Goldman from that angle. I can't remember a time when the city was building so many
large office towers. Even more impressive when you consider the number of office towers already built.

Steely Dan

Oct 30, 2007, 9:15 PM

* many posts deleted *

new york vs. chicago stupidity is not allowed on this forum (nor is any city vs. city crap), so if you want to engage in such discussions, you're simply going to have to hold them on a different website. this thread is for news, pictures, updates, and opinions about the construction of NYC's freedom tower.

Ghost

Oct 31, 2007, 5:40 AM

Not much visibility of the columns left. They'll slowly being encased in the concrete.

All but a few feet will be left to secure the other columns when thay come.
Um, actually, there is. Not from ground level, but if you look at webcam, they are pretty much the same as a week ago. But the core is coming along quite nicely.
http://i10.tinypic.com/6614yh5.jpg

37TimPPG

Oct 31, 2007, 6:54 PM

Independence

Oct 31, 2007, 7:57 PM

Yeah, compared to how the site has looked like a few months before, it's unbelievable how fast everything is moving forward. Like the whole area around. It's truly amazing. A few years before I have considered the area to become an abandoned but expensive place.

R@ptor

Oct 31, 2007, 9:18 PM

Finally the core is rising. It was about time.

Daquan13

Oct 31, 2007, 9:45 PM

Finally the core is rising. It was about time.

You must realize that Ground Zero just can't be rushed with its rebuild effort. Even though it seemed like forever for the main part to get underway, the timetable is stretched out to several years.

NYguy

Nov 1, 2007, 3:41 AM

Ground Zero just can't be rushed with its rebuild effort. Even though it seemed like forever for the main part to get underway, the timetable is stretched out to several years.

That's right. And constructin of the Freedom Tower only commenced relatively recently. The didn't start on 9/12/2001.

Daquan13

Nov 1, 2007, 9:54 AM

That's right. And constructin of the Freedom Tower only commenced relatively recently. They didn't start on 9/12/2001.

Woudn't have been able to anyway.

I don't understand some of the members here. Now that construction of the Freedom Tower is underway, you STILL hear some say that it's not coming along fast enough.

What should the officials do, break out with the whip, start cracking it to make things go faster?:whip:

They should at least be glad that 7 WTC is back on the scene and has partly broken the curse
of the terror attacks.

harryc

Nov 1, 2007, 10:44 AM

Um, actually, there is. Not from ground level, but if you look at webcam, they are pretty much the same as a week ago. But the core is coming along quite nicely.
http://i10.tinypic.com/6614yh5.jpg

Does anyone have any close ups of the base of these cranes - or diagrams of how they work ? They appear to be the same type that was just installed next door to me ( in Chicago ) and I am pretty sure they are the type that "crawl" up the building's core as it rises.

353 N Clark - Chicago
http://lh3.google.com/harry.r.carmichael/RylAlepImxI/AAAAAAAAL4g/jZTsO2PMf0A/P1090865.JPG?imgmax=640

NYguy

Nov 1, 2007, 12:11 PM

wtcrising.com

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/concretepour5_big.jpg

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/freedom%20tower%20overviewoct2007_big.jpg

Dallas Snob

Nov 1, 2007, 7:22 PM

chex

Nov 1, 2007, 8:39 PM

i agree.

Dac150

Nov 1, 2007, 9:15 PM

They should at least be glad that 7 WTC is back on the scene and has partly broken the curse
of the terror attacks.

I don't think many people appreciate how FAST 7 WTC went up. It amazes me that people are so blind to the amount of politics and emotions involved in this project. They do not realize how fortunate we are that construction is happening as quickly as it is, and the heights of whats being constructed.

The WTC is not just your average construction site. Nearly 3,000 families, lease holders, city officials, neighboring companies, The Port Authority, NYPD, FDNY, state officials, construction companies, the MTA, and many more people all have to come to a compromise on what is to be built. So with that, I am 110% happy that things are progressing the way they currently are.

NYguy

Nov 1, 2007, 10:45 PM

I don't think many people appreciate how FAST 7 WTC went up. It amazes me that people are so blind to the amount of politics and emotions involved in this project. They do not realize how fortunate we are that construction is happening as quickly as it is, and the heights of whats being constructed.

The WTC is not just your average construction site. Nearly 3,000 families, lease holders, city officials, neighboring companies, The Port Authority, NYPD, FDNY, state officials, construction companies, the MTA, and many more people all have to come to a compromise on what is to be built. So with that, I am 110% happy that things are progressing the way they currently are.

100 % correct. 7 WTC didn't have to go through site planning and the various design conflicts associated with ground zero. When talking about progress at the WTC site, people should reference 7 WTC as to what can happen where the site is less complicated by death and design. Real lives were lost down there.

Daquan13

Nov 1, 2007, 11:32 PM

I wish that some one could help those of us that are visually challenged out by oulining in red one of these arial photos of the site. I cannot for the LIFE of me, figure out where the foot print of this building is. Can some one do that? All I see is a mess in the pit.

There IS actually a pic posted of Ground Zero several pages back, I believe, that have all of the things outlined where they will go.

In any event, the tower is being built in the far northwest corner of Ground Zero.

Daquan13

Nov 1, 2007, 11:40 PM

100 % correct. 7 WTC didn't have to go through site planning and the various design conflicts associated with ground zero. When talking about progress at the WTC site, people should reference 7 WTC as to what can happen where the site is less complicated by death and design. Real lives were lost down there.

You're right, it didn't.

I strongly believe that it's mainly because no one died in the building. Had anyone died in it, the relatives more than likely would have pissed and moaned to Pataki, asking him NOT to let anything be rebuilt in that spot.:rolleyes:

Dac150

Nov 1, 2007, 11:43 PM

You're right, it didn't.

I strongly believe that it's mainly because no one died in the building. Had anyone died in it, the relatives more than likely would have pissed and moaned to Pataki, asking him NOT to let anything be rebuilt in that spot.:rolleyes:

I think the city wanted the new 7 WTC at the time to serve as a symbol of re-construction and motivation. That without a doubt contributed to the fast rebuilding of the tower.

kznyc2k

Nov 2, 2007, 5:00 AM

I think the city wanted the new 7 WTC at the time to serve as a symbol of re-construction and motivation. That without a doubt contributed to the fast rebuilding of the tower.

Don't forget about the substation. That very practical need played perhaps the biggest role in getting things going as quickly as they did.

RockMont

Nov 2, 2007, 3:01 PM

I think the city wanted the new 7 WTC at the time to serve as a symbol of re-construction and motivation. That without a doubt contributed to the fast rebuilding of the tower.

Well at least, it started the ball rolling, after all the delay bullshit.

Daquan13

Nov 2, 2007, 4:50 PM

True dat, true dat!!

And once the Freedom Tower is completed, they will both be standing tall!

Dac150

Nov 2, 2007, 6:26 PM

Don't forget about the substation. That very practical need played perhaps the biggest role in getting things going as quickly as they did.

We can all thank Consolidated Edison then for pushing for the fast re-buildung of 7 WTC. :yes:

Dallas Snob

Nov 2, 2007, 7:15 PM

There IS actually a pic posted of Ground Zero several pages back, I believe, that have all of the things outlined where they will go.

In any event, the tower is being built in the far northwest corner of Ground Zero.

POST #1617 for anyone that is interested.

NYguy

Nov 2, 2007, 10:24 PM

Don't forget about the substation. That very practical need played perhaps the biggest role in getting things going as quickly as they did.

That was a major factor, but the biggest was the fact that there simply was no process to build around. Had people lost lives in 7 WTC like the other towers, we'd be looking at another memorial site.

But once it was decided that the building would be smaller to allow Greenwich to pass by, David Childs had the design and Silverstein got to work. We'll witness it again once the Port Authority finishes with the bathtub, and Silverstein is given the sites of towers 3 and 4.

As far as the numerous Freedom Tower delays, thank Libeskind, Pataki, the LMDC, and the Port Authority. But once everything was clear, the Freedom Tower has seen nothing but steady progress.

Daquan13

Nov 2, 2007, 10:56 PM

That was a major factor, but the biggest was the fact that there simply was no process to build around. Had people lost lives in 7 WTC like the other towers, we'd be looking at another memorial site.

But once it was decided that the building would be smaller to allow Greenwich to pass by, David Childs had the design and Silverstein got to work. We'll witness it again once the Port Authority finishes with the bathtub, and Silverstein is given the sites of towers 3 and 4.

As far as the numerous Freedom Tower delays, thank Libeskind, Pataki, the LMDC, and the Port Authority. But once everything was clear, the Freedom Tower has seen nothing but steady progress.

Yeah, they were all playing mind games with each other and the public. Pataki was the ringmaster. What, with his constant blundering and screwups! He was only giving false hopes and empty promises. The tower had two or more false starts thanks to him.

Libeskind kept on fighting with Silverstein and Childs because their design and location of the tower's spire didn't sit too well with him.

plinko

Nov 3, 2007, 12:28 AM

Can't wait for my Millenium Hilton view this weekend!

DMAG

Nov 3, 2007, 1:22 AM

Are those new columns bolted to the West wall above the PATH tracks? I don't remember seeing those before.

http://i10.tinypic.com/6614yh5.jpg

Daquan13

Nov 3, 2007, 3:59 AM

I believe that they were placed atop concrete piles that were, in turn, placed 25 feet deep into the bedrock.

Part of the infrastructure WILL be anchored to that wall though.

Ghost

Nov 3, 2007, 10:07 AM

I wish that some one could help those of us that are visually challenged out by oulining in red one of these arial photos of the site. I cannot for the LIFE of me, figure out where the foot print of this building is. Can some one do that? All I see is a mess in the pit.
Does this make it clear? (sorry for poor colors)

http://i7.tinypic.com/66lkqk0.jpg

Daquan13

Nov 3, 2007, 2:04 PM

To see the whole spot where everything will go, just go to page 65 and scroll down to find post# 1617.

It should answer everyone's question as to how the stuff will fit, and where.

Ghost

Nov 3, 2007, 2:24 PM

To see the whole spot where everything will go, just go to page 65 and scroll down to find post# 1617.

It should answer everyone's question as to how the stuff will fit, and where.
Or link it:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=3013731&postcount=1617

Daquan13

Nov 3, 2007, 4:05 PM

Thanks!

I tried doing it that way, but it just friggen wouldn't work!!

Lecom

Nov 3, 2007, 7:45 PM

Daquan13

Nov 4, 2007, 12:15 AM

This is sure taking forever, but I can't imagine coordinating such a clusterfuck of a site, with 16 acres being prepped to accomodate tens of thousands of people in a group of buildings designed by a half dozen different architects.

I think a friend of mine at Tishman must have been transferred from 7WTC to FT by now. Should get in touch with him sometime.

Come on, what do you guys want, a miracle or something?

I keep on stressing that Pataki is to blame for all the extreme slowness and delays. We're all just gonna have to live with it and deal with it.

In about five years or so, we'll all once again be looking down at New York City from the obs deck about 1,368 ft. high.

Yeah, it's quite possible that all or most of the Tishman workers who helped build 7 WTC were transfered to other construction projects.:banana:

CarlosV

Nov 4, 2007, 12:40 AM

^

right on...Pataki was an incompetent asshole.

CoolCzech

Nov 4, 2007, 12:43 AM

In about five years or so, we'll all once again be looking down at New York from the obs deck about 1,368 ft. high.

Yeah, but it won't be from atop the roof, in the open air.:(

The thrill of the view from atop the original WTC is something I'll always miss.

Daquan13

Nov 4, 2007, 1:38 AM

Yeah, but it won't be from atop the roof, in the open air.:(

The thrill of the view from atop the original WTC is something I'll always miss.

Yeah, but in this case, it's better to have one than none at all.:banana:

M.K.

Nov 4, 2007, 10:44 AM

it seems 2/3 of the site would be lost in use with nothing in this memorial square where the twins were, just metro tunnels in lower level. The plan pushed the new bldgs too close to the others lefting a very big empty space in middle, but that is New York scheme. :rolleyes: I would prefer more spread the bldgs in the site and bullshit with such memorial square with twins marks.
Yeah, when i got retired in years i can see the FT done in a trip and it would be brand new. :P

aluminum

Nov 4, 2007, 1:55 PM

^Dude, the twin towers were one of the best things ever happened to NYC. The memorial must be built to remember them and those innocent and unfortunate souls.

Daquan13

Nov 4, 2007, 3:12 PM

^

right on...Pataki was an incompetent asshole.

Quite a blunt way of putting it, but yeah, you're right!! Haha!!:haha:

He's no longer in office anyway, so we no longer have to put up with any of his bullcrap!: ;)

Dac150

Nov 4, 2007, 3:16 PM

^Dude, the twin towers were one of the best things ever happened to NYC. The memorial must be built to remember them and those innocent and unfortunate souls.

That's one of the most meaningful posts I've ever read coming from you. And its all 100% correct. They NEED to be remembered.:yes:

CHAPINM1

Nov 4, 2007, 5:46 PM

Yeah, but it won't be from atop the roof, in the open air.:(

The thrill of the view from atop the original WTC is something I'll always miss.

Don't be so gloom! This observatory may have something that even the previous one did not! You never know! Plus, it will be just as great! :D It was 8 years since I was last up in the WTC observatory and I will try to say one of the first to get up top the replacement when it's finished... :yes:

Daquan13

Nov 4, 2007, 5:55 PM

I might wait until some of the heat blows over first, and THEN go. But I WILL go.

I'm not missing out on this golden opportunity like I missed visiting the one at the Twins!

CHAPINM1

Nov 4, 2007, 8:12 PM

I might weight until some of the heat blows over first, and THEN go. But I WILL go.

I'm not missing out on this golden opportunity like I missed visiting the one at the Twins!

The opportunity will be back once again waiting for you... ;)

NYguy

Nov 5, 2007, 8:27 PM

Does this make it clear? (sorry for poor colors)

http://i7.tinypic.com/66lkqk0.jpg

Nice colors...:)

NYguy

Nov 5, 2007, 8:33 PM

Don't be so gloom! This observatory may have something
that even the previous one did not! You never know!

The new view will be just as exciting. Behold:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/85146609/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/85146609/original.jpg

Besides, while the outdoor deck view was great, you couldn't get close to the
edge of the tower. As a result, you couldn't see the streets directly below the
WTC. At the indoor observatory however, you could lean on the glass itself,
looking to the streets below.

aluminum

Nov 5, 2007, 10:21 PM

Theres nothing better than '1362' wind' blowing through your hair. But who knows; the OD in FT might be equally good...

Daquan13

Nov 5, 2007, 10:33 PM

You're so right, NYguy!!

While some are complaining about the Freedom Tower not having an outdoor obs desk, they seem to take great pleasure in overlooking those limitations.

The INDOOR desk gets you right up close and personal with the closer streets.
We get that same advange here in Boston with the Pru Tower's obs deck.

One of the disadvantages or advantages of the outdoor deck on the South Tower was that it was surrounded by a barbwired fence to discourage suicide attempts, or tightroping from one tower to the other, as was done by the French guy Philippe Petit in '74.

The other was that there were tracks that ran just near the edge of both towers so that the window cleaning machinery could be used.

And for those wishing and hoping that the tower would get an outdoor deck, there are already TWO in NYC, the ESB and the GE Builing at the RC.

So, once again, the Freedom Tower will NOT get an outdoor obs deck, so DON'T ASK.

NYguy

Nov 6, 2007, 12:26 PM

Theres nothing better than '1362' wind' blowing through your hair. But who knows; the OD in FT might be equally good...

1,500 ft wind? 2,000 ft? I never really found it windy up there though.

Another thing about the outdoor deck at the WTC, it wasn't always open (for obvious reasons).

NYguy

Nov 6, 2007, 12:30 PM

You're so right, NYguy!!

While some are complaining about the Freedom Tower not having an outdoor obs desk, they seem to take great pleasure in overlooking those limitations.

The INDOOR desk gets you right up close and personal with the closer streets.
We get that same advange here in Boston with the Pru Tower's obs deck.

One of the disadvantages or advantages of the outdoor deck on the South Tower was that it was surrounded by a barbwired fence to discourage suicide attempts

Even so, getting over that fence wouldn't put you directly over the edge. The outdoor observation deck was more of a platform on top of the building. You get an idea from this clip again...

E7_EQfCNots

NYguy

Nov 6, 2007, 1:43 PM

wtcrising.com

Deep into the earth...

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/anchor%20bolt_big.jpg

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/ft%20foot%20excavation_big.jpg

And above...

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/chain217siteType8/site187/client/photoGallery/189/wtc%20site%20october%202007_big.jpg

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Dac150

Nov 6, 2007, 3:49 PM

Those are some very cool shots.

Daquan13

Nov 6, 2007, 4:30 PM

Even so, getting over that fence wouldn't put you directly over the edge. The outdoor observation deck was more of a platform on top of the building. You get an idea from this clip again...

E7_EQfCNots

At least Maculay Culkin was lucky enough to have visited the Twins and the outdoor obs deck and take some pics up there with his camera when he was a little boy.

Even though it was a movie he was doing!

I never did!! However, I'm NOT missining out on visiting the Freedom Tower though!!!!
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RockMont

Nov 6, 2007, 6:30 PM

[QUOTE=NYguy;3147690]The new view will be just as exciting. Behold:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/85146609/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/85146609/original.jpg

This would be awesome for another observation deck. At least on one of the floors.

NYguy

Nov 6, 2007, 8:58 PM

This would be awesome for another observation deck. At least on one of the floors.

Imagine standing on top, under the diamond...:yes:

aluminum

Nov 6, 2007, 9:54 PM

Imagine sliding down the tower. :ahhh:

Dac150

Nov 6, 2007, 10:06 PM

They can safety net the edges, and convert it into an executive ski slope in the winter.:haha:

aluminum

Nov 6, 2007, 10:38 PM

1,500 ft wind? 2,000 ft? I never really found it windy up there though.

Another thing about the outdoor deck at the WTC, it wasn't always open (for obvious reasons).

What do you really mean by 1500' and 2000' ? What are trying to say ?

2-TOWERS

Nov 7, 2007, 3:06 PM

At least Maculay Culkin was lucky enough to have visited the Twins and the outdoor obs deck and take some pics up there with his camera when he was a little boy.

Even though it was a movie he was doing!

I never did!! However, I'm NOT missining out on visiting the Freedom Tower though!!!!
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[B][SIZE="3"]IT WAS INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE TO TO BE UP THERE, LOOKING AT THAT CLIP MAKES IT SAD , THAT WE WILL NEVER HAVE THAT. I AT LEAST GOT TO SEE IT ALOT I TIMES , MY LAST VISIT UP AUG. OF 2000.....

Daquan13

Nov 7, 2007, 7:38 PM

[B][SIZE="3"]IT WAS INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE TO TO BE UP THERE, LOOKING AT THAT CLIP MAKES IT SAD , THAT WE WILL NEVER HAVE THAT. I AT LEAST GOT TO SEE IT ALOT I TIMES , MY LAST VISIT UP AUG. OF 2000.....

Actually, I WAS making plans to visit the Twins later in '01, but those plans got canned by those basket cases who knocked them down!!:hell:

CoolCzech

Nov 7, 2007, 9:39 PM

Well, at least be glad you didn't make that trip late in 2001... like around September 11, Daquan!

CoolCzech

Nov 7, 2007, 9:42 PM

Those are some very cool shots.

I think that with our sometimes manic fixation with height figures, we tend to forget that this site is ALSO quite possibly the most work-intensive urban project on the face of the planet at this moment...

FastFerrari82

Nov 7, 2007, 10:58 PM

CHAPINM1

Nov 7, 2007, 11:12 PM

Please stop bringing up the former WTC into this thread!

Daquan13

Nov 7, 2007, 11:39 PM

Boy the site is starting to get "clean" up. But before the get back to street level how much underground work is needed? Four levels is what i remember seeing but is there also going to be rail access here too?

There is a lot of info on that on the previous pages back. You'll find all that you need to know there.

Nothing against you at all, but a lot of ppl have been asking questions like that.

Right, ChapinM1! This thread shouldn't have any of that.

theWatusi

Nov 7, 2007, 11:45 PM

There is a lot of info on that on the previous pages back. You'll find all that you need to know there.

Nothing against you at all, but a lot of ppl have been asking questions like that.

Instead of telling people to go back and read 2000 posts all the time why dont you write a FAQ and have Mark put it on the first post?

Daquan13

Nov 7, 2007, 11:52 PM

Gee, that's funny. Wiseguy!

You thought of it, why couldn't YOU do it?

But I just did. Thanks.

Dac150

Nov 8, 2007, 12:00 AM

I think that with our sometimes manic fixation with height figures, we tend to forget that this site is ALSO quite possibly these most work-intensive urban project on the face of the planet at this moment...

Trust me, I am one of the few on this forum who realizes that.;)

Lecom

Nov 8, 2007, 5:19 AM

So, once again, the Freedom Tower will NOT get an outdoor obs deck, so DON'T ASK.
That's correct, though the reason that it's not getting an outdoor deck is because there is no space for it on the roof among the antenna equipment, not because there are already two decks in the city.

officedweller

Nov 8, 2007, 7:51 AM

In one of those pics I noticed the tent over the PATH entrance. That was made in Surrey, British Columbia (near Vancouver):

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/idl/vapr/20070830/186162-58899.jpg
A Tentnology crew rehearses the erection of a tent custom-designed for the World Trade Center site in New York.
Wayne Leidenfrost, The Province

Big tent bound for Big Apple
Cloverdale firm provides coverage for 9/11 ceremony

Frank Luba, The Province
Published: Thursday, August 30, 2007

Down a quiet country lane yesterday in Cloverdale, Gery Warner was busy putting up a tent.

But almost as soon as the massive white structure was complete Warner and his "Tentnologists" had to take it down so it could be trucked to New York.

That's where the nine-tonne tent, which is 18 metres wide, 26 metres long and 11 metres high, will be permanently erected at the former site of the World Trade Center in time for the ceremonies that will commemorate the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist tragedy.

Warner is president of Tentnology Inc., the internationally known Surrey fabric-structure design company that has been based in Cloverdale for 17 years.

He's made larger and higher tents, notably a structure that covered four hectares in Seoul, South Korea, for an air show.

But the New York tent is special.

"It's a one-off," he said of a structure that had to be as special as the spot it will cover.

Tentnology bid on the Port Authority of New York job last year and won for its design.

"They needed something to show progress and this can certainly do that," said Warner.

"I proposed an alternative that was a little more uplifting and stirring and inspirational," he explained of the soaring tent, which is held up by an aluminum truss system.

It's essentially an "extremely modified" version of the company's "saddle-span" design.

"This is very much like the Children's Festival tents," Warner said, referring to the popular Vancouver event, "only it's like the kids' fest tents on steroids.

"It has to be for New York snow load, New York wind. It's permanent.

"Who knows how long it's going to be there, but it's designed for permanent."

There wasn't enough wind in Surrey yesterday afternoon to ruffle Warner's hair but in New York the tent will be held down by steel cables attached to concrete pylons.

"It's like a big hang glider that's not supposed to fly," said Warner with a laugh. "It shall not."

The tent took about two days to erect but company workers, Warner's "Tentnologists," will have less time than that to put it up in New York.

Tentnology's structures have been used at the 1976 Montreal Olympic Games, the 2004 Athens Olympics and the World Cup of Soccer that was staged in the U.S.

Warner concedes the World Trade Center tent, which will be over the subway entrance, is a little extra special.

"It's going to a site that everyone knows about, that's for sure," he admitted.

But from a field in Surrey to New York City, it's still just another job for Tentnology.

fluba@png.canwest.com

© The Vancouver Province 2007

Daquan13

Nov 8, 2007, 9:01 AM

That's correct, though the reason that it's not getting an outdoor deck is because there is no space for it on the roof among the antenna equipment, not because there are already two decks in the city.

The point that I was trying to make is while ppl. are bitching for a 2nd (outdoor) obs deck for the tower, there are other buildings that feature one.

And the ESB has two. So, it's not like there aren't any around, and they can enjoy them right now.

They need to stop complaining for things that the tower won't have and start
trying to appreciate some of the things that it WILL have!:rolleyes: