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[Juanses]

This is significant .... An impressive lighting endeavor is precisely what Lower Manhattan Needs - it will finally get the pizazz it deserves. I equate this development to as significant as a new supertall announcement in our city...

[uaarkson]

Word now is that DCM erectors may be going out of business. Could spell trouble for this and numerous other sites around the city.

[animatedmartian]

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[CarlosV]

I can't stand the rain against my window...

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[hunser]

Word now is that DCM erectors may be going out of business. Could spell trouble for this and numerous other sites around the city.

Oh that's just shiny! All we need now is another delay, as if the tower hasn't been through such s*** before. God damnit, this whole project rests on a curse...

[Otie]

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[uaarkson]

Oh that's just shiny! All we need now is another delay, as if the tower hasn't been through such s*** before. God damnit, this whole project rests on a curse...

The WTC is perfectly symbolic of New York. Glorious monuments to human effort, born out of political shitstorms between the market and government. What a saga.

[NYguy]

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Just dominates in that view.



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[uaarkson]

If anyone here can tell me the exact location from which the above photos were taken, I would greatly appreciate it.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

If anyone here can tell me the exact location from which the above photos were taken, I would greatly appreciate it.

Eagle Rock in West Orange, NJ I think

[Davidsam52]

I've been hearing (on this forum and SSC) that DCM Erectors may be going out of business, spelling big time trouble for the WTC. What is the source of this information?

[QUEENSNYMAN]

I've been hearing (on this forum and SSC) that DCM Erectors may be going out of business, spelling big time trouble for the WTC

God I hope not!

[NewYorkSkyline117]

I've been hearing (on this forum and SSC) that DCM Erectors may be going out of business, spelling big time trouble for the WTC. What is the source of this information?

Does that mean they take away the cranes.....

[SearsTower]

Does that mean they take away the cranes.....

I wouldn't jump to conclusions so fast. They have a contract to build 1 WTC, so they will continue to do that. :)

[jd3189]

If this is true, let's hope they can be bailed out. This crap has taken the most important era of this tower's construction to show up.

[reencharles]

The spire will be lit up, the color schemes will change from minute to minute, similar to what happens now with the BofA and Conde Naste towers. Ironic that Conde is moving here.

Also, beyond the lighting of the spire itself, the City seeks a new lighting scheme for all of Downtown, similar to what goes on in other cities with light shows...
http://www.nycedc.com/ProjectsOpportunities/RFPsRFQsRFEIs/Pages/Opportunity253_PC.aspx




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Wow, will be amazing. Especially with all the projects that are coming in lower Manhattan. This part of town will be even more amazing with over the years. :notacrook:

[NYguy]

I've been hearing (on this forum and SSC) that DCM Erectors may be going out of business, spelling big time trouble for the WTC. What is the source of this information?

No sense worrying about something like that until it affects this project.

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[Otie]

Joe Woolhead, WTC.com

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[animatedmartian]

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The tower is really starting to fill its iconic space within the skyline. It's looking awesome. :yes::cheers:

[cityenthusiast]

Does that mean they take away the cranes.....

There is no way they could take away those cranes right now at this point in construction that would be unbelievably retarded

[NewYorker2009]

Well even if DCM has a contract to complete the Tower, there has still been a delay on the steel erection so that's obviously why it has been going so slow the last couple of months because those were just office floors as opposed to the mechanical floors which take longer. Since November we've only went up like 4 floors and you cannot blame that on the weather no way.

[06hdfxdwg]

DCM probably isn't going anywhere. They got 340 million to do this job,from what i've read,so the job will get done. As far as cranes coming down,that won't happen either. IF and i mean IF,another erector comes in,then they will just use the cranes that are already there (steel erectors dont usually own their equipment,it's leased). They wont pull them down,just because they change hands. A new steel erector would just assume the lease. I have a feeling that the rumor (i say "rumor" because i googled it yesterday and found nothing about DCM going down the toilet.) probably has something to do with someone wanting some money someplace along the line. If i had a nickle for every time we heard a rumor about a contractor going belly up,i'd be fairly well-off. In my experience,it's always been a ploy to get more money due to say.........possible cost overruns (theres always a clause in a contract that covers them). 1WTC will get finished one way or another,bank on it. Also,DCM is a fairly potent outfit,so it's more likely they'd be gobbled up by another construction outfit.........kind of like the way Koch Erectors was bought out by Skanska,i believe. Thats my take on that whole thing but hey,ive been wrong before.

[MrSlippery519]

Glass is rising again...patiently waiting for new steel. Has to be soon, the cranes were lifted almost a week ago and the Horizontal floor beams were put up so things have to be close.

[NYguy]

This tower is nearing the topping out stage, and you people are still complaining about the pace of steel erection. Unbelievable.


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[NewYorker2009]

This tower is nearing the topping out stage, and you people are still complaining about the pace of steel erection. Unbelievable.


So you think things have been going smoothly? People want to see this thing done and I can't blame them, people have waited long enough. Sure complaining won't get it done faster but come on steel erection has been very slow lately and even you can see that. You are obviously very patient but some people including myself have been patient long enough and are fed up with the delays.

[asharmaearth411]

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[hunser]

Amazing flight over Lower Manhattan- must watch! Click Video Link, if Video doesn't work on SSP.

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[THE BIG APPLE]

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[CarlosV]

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[NewYorkSkyline117]

:slob:

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Oh so that was just horizontal beams and not vertical, so do you know how high the next jump is? Wow glass is rising so quickly :tup:

[Dac150]

Sure complaining won't get it done faster but come on steel erection has been very slow lately and even you can see that.

Understandable - however the repetitiveness of the complaints grows tiresome and doesn't add anything constructive to the discussion.. :sleep:

[NYguy]

So you think things have been going smoothly? People want to see this thing done and I can't blame them, people have waited long enough. Sure complaining won't get it done faster but come on steel erection has been very slow lately and even you can see that. You are obviously very patient but some people including myself have been patient long enough and are fed up with the delays.

Please. This is a supertall building that's nearly topped out. Having it topped out any faster isn't going to improve your life all that much. Patience is something this thread has lacked, every little thing is cause for alarm. A snowstorm is coming! Shocker. Look, no steel for a couple of days. The building must be canceled. Give it a rest already and watch the building rise. If it's not rising fast enough for you, then guess what. You'll wait longer. But enough of the constant whining.


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[Roadcruiser1]

Oh so that was just horizontal beams and not vertical, so do you know how high the next jump is? Wow glass is rising so quickly :tup:

The next jump would be another 23 feet up into the sky.

[Dense_Electric]

Does anyone have any 3d renderings showing the layout of the lobby? So far I haven't been able to figure out what it's going to look like other than the two images from the official WTC site, but in both of those I'm not even sure which part of the lobby I'm looking at.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

The next jump would be another 23 feet up into the sky.

cool thanks :):tup:

[QUEENSNYMAN]

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[Otie]

Does anyone have any 3d renderings showing the layout of the lobby? So far I haven't been able to figure out what it's going to look like other than the two images from the official WTC site, but in both of those I'm not even sure which part of the lobby I'm looking at.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6273/groundfloorplan062706.jpg
First floor, here you can see clearly the entrances; north, south and east entrances will be destinated for tenants while west will be for tourist who wish to go to the observation levels.


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This one shows the B2 Observation Deck Lobby, located just below the West entrance. Tourists will either enter through the west and take the escalators down or come in from Calatrava's Corridor at concourse level.

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This shows the office lobby at ground level.

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This shows the escalators located at the east entrance.


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Again the same entrance, just different angle.

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Tenant escalators at concourse level, located just below the southeastern corner of the footprint.

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South entrance from Memorial's sidewalk.

[NewYorker2009]

Please. This is a supertall building that's nearly topped out. Having it topped out any faster isn't going to improve your life all that much. Patience is something this thread has lacked, every little thing is cause for alarm. A snowstorm is coming! Shocker. Look, no steel for a couple of days. The building must be canceled. Give it a rest already and watch the building rise. If it's not rising fast enough for you, then guess what. You'll wait longer. But enough of the constant whining.

Like I said you are a very patient person so any delay will not matter to you. I never said the topping out of the Tower would improve my life that's not the point here you are jumping to your own assumptions. The point is people have waited a long time so they want something finished there with no further delays, plain and simple. I have a right to my own opinion as do other people on this forum so if you don't like it don't comment, don't add more gasoline to the fire. I wish I could continue watching the building rise but the fact is it isn't right now. If this were any other project I wouldn't care when it gets completed like the Hudson Rail yards for example. I grew up with the World Trade Center so I would like to see it done. This new delay will probably postpone the opening of the Tower which does not surprise me since everything else is delayed. If you have anything else to say to me PM me.

[NewYorker2009]

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Very nice pic QUEENSNYMAN, you have some nice views from where you live, keep up the good work.

[Roadcruiser1]

Does anyone have any 3d renderings showing the layout of the lobby? So far I haven't been able to figure out what it's going to look like other than the two images from the official WTC site, but in both of those I'm not even sure which part of the lobby I'm looking at.

Sorry, but there isn't any, but there is a cutaway diagram of the lobby.

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/6/h/freedomtowerGroundFloorPlan_06-27-06.jpg

[gramsjdg]

Looks like the blue netting has gotten back up to the level of the highest steel. So, we are at something like 1170'? putting us 200' from topping out?

[599GTO]

When will they finally begin with the base?

[hunser]

^^ 2013, 1st quarter.

[NewYorker2009]

Looks like the blue netting has gotten back up to the level of the highest steel. So, we are at something like 1170'? putting us 200' from topping out?

The Tower is currently on the 90th floor and has been since early December so the height is 1,130' 8" to floor 90 and almost 1,140' with the splices. The top or 105th floor will be 1,334' 8" and the parapet goes up to 1,368'.

[CarlosV]

I'm with you NewYorker2009 this is ridiculous they should be an urgency to get this freaking project done on a timely matter, it has been over a month since any vertical steel has gone up...

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Great Pics Carlos....yes they have all been basically the same with the beautiful different color sunsets making your pics different, and besides glass going up ....LETS SEE SOME VERTICAL STEEL!!!!! :shrug:

[QUEENSNYMAN]

Love the daily updates Carlos, thank you for them. Oh and yes I cannot wait for more steel, looking great from my end of the woods the Rockaways.

[CHAPINM1]

How high is the glass now, about 880 feet?

[06hdfxdwg]

Understandable - however the repetitiveness of the complaints grows tiresome and doesn't add anything constructive to the discussion.. :sleep:

Amen Brother. As i've explained a few times already,mechanical floors take longer. I won't repeat why again,as it's getting repetitive. It's a good thing that the construction pace doesn't go as fast as the people who complain seem to think it should. When people start to get rammy,people get hurt and even killed. I'm sorry but it's not worth someone getting killed for ANY building. I've been in this racket long enough to see the results of impatience. Keep you knickers on people,the building will top out. Maybe not when you'd like it to,but it will get there.;)

[CarlosV]

How high is the glass now, about 880 feet?

Good question, from my vantage point I' d say as high as Beekman tower!

[NewYorker2009]

How high is the glass now, about 880 feet?

The glass is now at floor 70 from what I've seen on the Earthcam and the fantastic shots Carlos posted, so it's at 853' 4". The 72nd floor will bring the glass up to 880', which is the perfect octagon floor so the glass is almost Beekman Tower's height.

[CHAPINM1]

Thank you Carlos and NewYorker2009 or your help intel! I am happy to know the official progress! Also good to see the netting reach the VERY top! This means that they should be more than ready for more steel come the proper time...

[NewYorkSkyline117]

This is so ridiculous, steel should be going up today, if not..and please no one tell me it's just a matter of patience, a month is a little over top and theres been many perfect opportunities

[Otie]

DCM is having some financial problems, if things don't get better in a relative short time, it will sure get out of the game and the PA will hire another construction manager. Besides, decking hasn't even put into place... don't expect any steel erection in the next two weeks.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

DCM is having some financial problems, if things don't get better in a relative short time, it will sure get out of the game and the PA will hire another construction manager. Besides, decking hasn't even put into place... don't expect any steel erection in the next two weeks.

I hope it's not two weeks...throughout this whole forum people are making these assumptions that never happen, like right after the last jump, people said that it'll be two weeks but look where we are now. Also, why does everyone keep saying a different current height right now? It's always 1,130ft, 1,140, 1,145, 1,138... :(

[Roadcruiser1]

This is so ridiculous, steel should be going up today, if not..and please no one tell me it's just a matter of patience, a month is a little over top and theres been many perfect opportunities

The steel workers are off for the weekend. No new steel at all.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

The steel workers are off for the weekend. No new steel at all.

Alright I just needed a reason..what about this coming week?

[Puzzlecraft]

The decking for highest floor doesn't appear to be in place. Normally isn't this done before the steel goes up for the next floors?

[NewYorkSkyline117]

The decking for highest floor doesn't appear to be in place. Normally isn't this done before the steel goes up for the next floors?

Just curious, I'm sorry everyone for my questions but I'm not very good with the construction steps, but what is decking, splices etc?

[jd3189]

So,topping out will be postponed to May or sometime this summer?

[hunser]

^^ You mean topped out by roof? Because technically speaking, since the spire is an architectural element of the tower, topping out means when the spire is put up. By roof I would say summer, at the earliest. It will take some time to get a new erector on track, if DCM goes out of business.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

^^ You mean topped out by roof? Because technically speaking, since the spire is an architectural element of the tower, topping out means when the spire is put up. By roof I would say summer, at the earliest. It will take some time to get a new erector on track, if DCM goes out of business.

If it does go out of business, why would it take so long to get new cranes hired and set up? :shrug:

[hunser]

If it does go out of business, why would it take so long to get new cranes hired and set up? :shrug:

Well, they would use the same cranes. But it's the PA we are talking about here, so you can multiply every delay by 10. Bureaucracy, corruption, incompetence, slowness and political shitstorm - all terms that the PA's got written all over it.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

Well, they would use the same cranes. But it's the PA we are talking about here, so you can multiply every delay by 10. Bureaucracy, corruption, incompetence, slowness and political shitstorm - all terms that the PA's got written all over it.

It's too bad.. Everything has been going great until this point. :(

[dchan]

Just curious, I'm sorry everyone for my questions but I'm not very good with the construction steps, but what is decking, splices etc?

Here is what I wrote for decking in the One57 thread:

Metal deck is basically corrugated steel, and it looks like this:

http://www.allendorferroofing.com/images/metal_deck_rep.JPG
http://www.allendorferroofing.com/services.htm

It serves two functions. When concrete for the floor slab is being poured, the deck serves as formwork on the bottom, allowing the concrete to take its shape as it cures (there will also be traditional wooden formwork around the floor slab edges to hold in the concrete on the sides). If you were to build a proper reinforced concrete floor slab, you would have to install the temporary formwork all along the bottom of the slab, and take it all off when the concrete has cured to the point that it can support its own weight. That's a lot of labor and temporary formwork to deal with. It's better to simply incorporate the bottom formwork into the final floor slab itself.

When the concrete has "finished" curing*, the deck serves as reinforcement for the concrete to provide tensile strength at the bottom of the slab (the most important area in floor-slab tensile design). That's why although metal deck reinforcement isn't ideal (engineering design-wise), it's good enough for the main task at hand: providing bottom reinforcement for floor slabs.

If you want to see the metal deck in person, just go to any office building that's under construction. It's almost guaranteed that it will have metal deck floor slabs. And if you are able to see the bottom of a completed floor slab, you will see the metal deck throughout the floor slab (it may be covered in fireproofing).

* I use the quotations here because concrete never really finishes curing, not even after decades. However, it reaches the vast majority of its final strength after a few years. So the fact that concrete never truly finishes curing is a moot point.


EDIT: I see that scalziand provided a much simpler and shorter explanation.

Here is an explanation from Tata Steel Construction of column splicing:

http://www.tatasteelconstruction.com/en/reference/teaching_resources/architectural_studio_reference/elements/connections/column_splice/

The overall Tata Steel Teaching Resources section is a good reference for learning about steel construction.

[Kevin Scott Koepke]

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Please do not repost, copy, or otherwise reproduce this image. Thank you. :banana:

[NewYorkSkyline117]

Here is what I wrote for decking in the One57 thread:



Here is an explanation from Tata Steel Construction of column splicing:

http://www.tatasteelconstruction.com/en/reference/teaching_resources/architectural_studio_reference/elements/connections/column_splice/

The overall Tata Steel Teaching Resources section is a good reference for learning about steel construction.

Thanks :tup:

[NYguy]

The point is people have waited a long time so they want something finished there with no further delays, plain and simple. I have a right to my own opinion as do other people on this forum

Since people have waited a long time, waiting a little longer won't hurt anything. It also doesn't help to keep repeating the same statements and questions over. The building is under construction, that is all anyone needs to know really. When it tops out, it tops out. When the Port Authority says construction has stopped, then you can worry about it's completion. Until then, everything else is just spamming this thread. It's tiresome and doesn't make the building rise any faster.


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[NewYorker2009]

Since people have waited a long time, waiting a little longer won't hurt anything. It also doesn't help to keep repeating the same statements and questions over. The building is under construction, that is all anyone needs to know really. When it tops out, it tops out. When the Port Authority says construction has stopped, then you can worry about it's completion. Until then, everything else is just spamming this thread. It's tiresome and doesn't make the building rise any faster.

Well it's not like we have a choice but to wait do we? I don't think there is anything wrong with stating the obvious that steel on the Tower hasn't risen in about a month and a half. This a forum where people can express their views whether they are positive or negative. If people want to say progress is slow then they can. It's just basic observation. It's clear you don't like it so don't give into it then, ignore it. As for the construction of the Tower, you can't sit there and act like everything is fine and progress is going fast because that is a lie. It's obvious the Tower will finish I mean they came this far already, but there is another delay so who knows when we'll see steel again. Some people just cannot be patient and that's understandable.

[uaarkson]

That's fine for discussion threads, in other subforums. But this is a construction thread. Why can't people figure this out?

[THE BIG APPLE]

This is not just a construction thread. This is a PROJECT thread also, and it's located in the PROJECTS & CONSTRUCTION section. What's the project name. GUESS anyone. OM and even a G. 1 World Trade Center. It took me less than a second to figure that out. Now what's the problem. We can't talk about the progress about the PROJECT. What's the project name. I am in the right thread am I. 1 World Trade Center. So stop acting like you can straighten things out and stop being a kiss ass. People have the right to have their opinion. No body was OFF TOPIC (another thing that pisses me off and is a load of CRAP). So what's going on. I I know what's going on. It's people talking straight out of their ASS for the sake of talking out of their ASS, because you have nothing better to do. SO simple STFU. To be specific the person before me and NYguy. Watch this post get deleted, for setting things straight.

[RockMont]

What ever it is that is going on, can anybody give an official, valid answer? Is there any truth to any of these rumours? Has construction really come to a halt? If so, or if not, please confirm or deny? Anybody that is a reliable source. I know that with the floors close to the top, being mechanical floors, that it will take more time to complete, and it will be a slower process. I just hope to hell that it is not an indefinite delay, due to politics or bureaucratic bullshit. If it is slowed because of the complexity of the mechanical floors, that's all right. That is, if that is due to the details of the job, and if that was to be expected. There are just so many rumours and hearsay bandied around here, so can somebody give credible answer?

[uaarkson]

This is not just a construction thread. This is a PROJECT thread also, and it's located in the PROJECTS & CONSTRUCTION section. What's the project name. GUESS anyone. OM and even a G. 1 World Trade Center. It took me less than a second to figure that out. Now what's the problem. We can't talk about the progress about the PROJECT. What's the project name. I am in the right thread am I. 1 World Trade Center. So stop acting like you can straighten things out and stop being a kiss ass. People have the right to have their opinion. No body was OFF TOPIC (another thing that pisses me off and is a load of CRAP). So what's going on. I I know what's going on. It's people talking straight out of their ASS for the sake of talking out of their ASS, because you have nothing better to do. SO simple STFU. To be specific the person before me and NYguy. Watch this post get deleted, for setting things straight.

Look dude, you can do all the semantic gymnastics you want. Clearly you have an understanding on how moderating works around here. So you can either shut up and play by the de facto rules or you can run this thread even further into the ground with your big, useless whinefest.

[DrNest]

I'm fine with seeing posts about how construction appears to have stopped, and no new steel has gone up in a while. As someone who doesn't live in New York, I'm still very interested in this project and keeping up to date with what is and isn't happening.

[QUEENSNYMAN]

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1SOxNeV72g

[Zapatan]

That's a real bummer about the stopped construction, hopefully it starts again soon.

[06hdfxdwg]

I,most times find this thread fairly interesting and informative in some ways,yet at the same time i find it,at times,repetitive,and as such boring. The same redundant questions of height of steel,glass,when are they going to start glassing over the base and topping out dates are getting to the point where you're beating a dead horse. That said,i,d like to make a proposal to the moderator/s: Perhaps we could nominate one person in the know to give weekly updates,perhaps on Fridays in reference to all those questions,this way they don't have to be read every day,in every post. If i were a mod,the first person i would consider asking would be Carlos,V. He seems to live close by and also seems to know whats going on down there.........yet that would be up to him and obviously the moderators. He/they could post all their pictures showing progress for that particular week,as well. Another thing that helps to avoid is the constant reposting of said pictures when you use a quote. Theres nothing more boring than seeing some great pics and then seeing them a dozen more times when people use the "quote function."

Another thing i've noticed is that the term "stay on topic" has been used to the point that the thread has become,for lack of a better term "robotic",so to speak. Sometimes one feels like one of the Borg.....you're assimilated into the collective,no free thought allowed. For instance: Last week i made a post and then posted again saying "go big blue". Needless to say,it was deleted. Sure it wasn't on topic,yet it was harmless and stuff like that adds a sort of personal touch to the thread. I mean all we are to each other really are just anonymous people. It would be nice to be able to get to know a little bit about each other by what we post......that post,for instance,let you know i'm a Giants fan,so now you know a little bit of something about me. Letting people say a little something that veers a bit off topic would breathe new life into the thread,providing say that it doesn't turn into page after page of Empire State Building discussion. I hope you all are following me here,as i,m wording this as best i can. I usually try to listen to both sides of an argument before i make a decision and then try to find an amicable solution to things that makes everyone happy.

Anyhow,as i mentioned a few posts back,1WTC WILL get finished,thats for certain. Tischman isn't just gonna pack up their toys and go home. Patience is the key really. As we like to say in the Biz: " No matter what happens,everything always seems to get built." Have a nice day people and as always:............GO BLUE;)

[CarlosV]

just woke up to this!!! 16 degrees outside and ......:hi: LET'S GO BLUE!!!

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[THE BIG APPLE]

Look dude, you can do all the semantic gymnastics you want. Clearly you have an understanding on how moderating works around here. So you can either shut up and play by the de facto rules or you can run this thread even further into the ground with your big, useless whinefest.

Where are these rules written that you speak of (Quran, Bible, Torah huh). Why should we follow them, are they written in a holy book. No matter what anyone (including you) says, everyone will agree with me, OFFTOPIC is BS. Ask (06hdfxdwg) above. He just like everyone else on this forum except NyGuy and his kissass (you), seem to be robots is seems. Why is everyone so DAMN bored and complaining, let me tell you why. Because we hhhhaaaavvvvvveeee to be ONTOPIC, and are forced to talk or atleast write like robots on this forum. That's why it's so fucking boring and repetitive on this forum. If I'm running this thread to the ground, then it seems everyone else whos name isn't you or NyGuy seems to be doing it too. Watch this one get deleted for telling it like it is.

[Eidolon]

just woke up to this!!! 16 degrees outside and ......:hi: LET'S GO BLUE!!!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7163/6701127547_064b9ffaf1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6701127547/)
DSC_5077 copy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ceva321/6701127547/) by Ceva321 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ceva321/), on Flickr

What's that structure the crane is lifting? A generator? Worker's quarters or something like that?

[THE BIG APPLE]

^ I think that's a Subway. Although the Subway's supposed to be attached to the crane and be rising everytime the crane does.

[CarlosV]

I think the "subway" car (restaurant ) is no longer on site, that could be the toilets for the workers LOL

ps. I don't care how many people ask the same questions over and over again...does not bother me! we are not robots, so stop it! ha ha :boogy:

[2-TOWERS]

What's that structure the crane is lifting? A generator? Worker's quarters or something like that?

Another GEM Carlos........thanks man ....GO BLUE !!!!!

[06hdfxdwg]

Well if i didn't know better,i'd say it looks like an air handler for the HVAC system. You can see what looks like the ductwork connections on the side of it. It's still hard to tell but im fairly sure thats what it is.

[06hdfxdwg]

Disclaimer: My eyes aren't as good as they used to be so i "could" be wrong.;)

[Tall guy 31]

Whatever it is....it's huge. That thing has to be about 35 feet long. Do they make air handlers that long?? (assuming they do for a monster project like this)

[Otie]

You're pretty close, 06hdfxdwg. The container being lifted at Carlos' pic is a hotel container and it will be relocated to the east plaza at ground. These containers are being transfered out of the building because the core is changing of size, being too small to accomodate them. The core above 88th (were the containers used to be) is now rectangular opposed to the octagonal shape we were looking at, getting rid of all office elevator shafts.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2465/67636974.jpg
*Roughly framing

PS. Thanks Carlos for the shot!
PPS. I agree with 06hdfxdwg's idea, someone should make a weekly progress report... *cough* Carlos *cough*

[hunser]

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One WTC...Standing Out (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmvazquezjr/6695520289/) von jmvazquezjr (http://www.flickr.com/people/jmvazquezjr/) auf Flickr

[NewYorkSkyline117]

What's that structure the crane is lifting? A generator? Worker's quarters or something like that?

Is it me or does something look different today? Was the safety netting raised or was it already like that?

[Eidolon]

Is it me or does something look different today? Was the safety netting raised or was it already like that?

It was raised.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

It was raised.

cool :D

[steveve]

[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmvazquezjr/6695520289/]One WTC...Standing Out (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmvazquezjr/6695520289/) von jmvazquezjr (http://www.flickr.com/people/jmvazquezjr/) auf Flickr

WOW! what an amazing pic! the black and white is perfect for unifying the skyline in such a way that 1WTC looks like its already apart of it (officially)

2WTC is gonna be huge.

[NewYorkSkyline117]

wow! What an amazing pic! The black and white is perfect for unifying the skyline in such a way that 1wtc looks like its already apart of it (officially)

2wtc is gonna be huge.

2 wtc?

[QUEENSNYMAN]

FROM: NYBOY75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXNl0qfJdzE

[CarlosV]

one day i will fly around it...:rolleyes:

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[sterlippo1]

....GO BLUE !!!!!


I didn't know Michigan was playing today...........;)

[jd3189]

Would it be funny if all this talk about steel installation ceasing was just because the mechanical floors were just taking too long?

[rjb001]

:previous:
There will probably be new steel in a week or two. Since they just put in 90's horizontal beams they still need to put floor decking down. It looks like 89 still needs it too. So once that's done, we'll see some new steel:tup:

I have to admit though, at the rate this is going, a topping out date in April seems like a far cry to me.

[SupertallSkyline88]

hi everybody im back. i have missed a lot have not been on this since december 16,2011. i was sick for most of that time. but im back. Happy New Year,everybody. so anyway back to 1 WTC, whats the facts as of January 15,2012? :banana: