NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[Troubadour]

Since they're making new plans for the base cladding, I'm wondering if it might not be interesting to do something that leaves the red beams visible? If not paint them even more brilliant red to be still more obvious? I've been marveling at how well those beams work as a backdrop for the memorial trees.

[CoolCzech]

Construction on Towers 2 and 3 still depends on securing financing and tenants, but Silverstein is optimistic. "By 2016, we should be out of here. This should all be done, and it'll be an incredible advantage to Lower Manhattan," said Silverstein.

2016? 5 more years. So it'll be - and I hope Larry is being realistic - a 15 year rebuild. I hope the final product is worth the wait.

[KevinFromTexas]

I think someone should make a thread about confirmed and potential tenants of the WTC towers in Buildings & Architecture. Somebody who just recently came to this thread might not know about Conde Nast and UBS.

Nah, it's best to have one thread for the topic.

[Kanto]

Nah, it's best to have one thread for the topic.

Then maybe put a FAQ in the first post of this topic. For folks who weren't here from the start it can be quite chaotic.

[2-TOWERS]

GREAT , GREAT UPDATES !!!!!!!!!!!!! even though the building tapers it still looks fat going up....everything was thinking this won't be massive enough , but this building is MASSIVE !!!!!!!!!!
again thanks for the best ever photo's and to carlos to for his everyday shots from his penthouse in queens........

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Thanks to Otie on SSC.

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Btw...anyone know where NYguy is? He's been gone for 20 days.

[Kanto]

Thanks to Otie on SSC.

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Btw...anyone know where NYguy is? He's been gone for 20 days.

Thanks for the rendering :tup:

[JayPro]

Holy Crow...if they're that far along already with the main structure, they actually might start doing some preliminary work on the "telecrown" by mid '12. According to render, it looks as if the crane right now is as high as Tower 4 to full elevation.

BTW Has any thought or discussion gone into how the spire/antenna is to be put in place? I just thought it would be cool if they could do with at least the antennae what they did with Chrysler's spire, i.e. raise the apparatus from within the structure. Doing just that was what gave her the title as NYC's tallest for a *brief* time.

[bunky]

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[STR]

BTW Has any thought or discussion gone into how the spire/antenna is to be put in place? I just thought it would be cool if they could do with at least the antennae what they did with Chrysler's spire, i.e. raise the apparatus from within the structure. Doing just that was what gave her the title as NYC's tallest for a *brief* time.

Ah, finally, a good question!

The antenna is modular, divided up into ~10 foot sections. That gives two likely options: The first is that they lift the narrower top portion (30 or 40 feet tall containing the pinnacle and beacon) to the roof. Then they'll jack the top up and insert the lower modules in piece by piece. Similar method to the Chrysler Building and Khalifa Tower.

The other alternative is lifting 10 or 20 foot sections up by helicopter and securing each in place. This time they finish with the top section. A crane might install the first 1 or 2 sections, but beyond that, the crane won't be tall enough to complete the job. Similar to the Trump Chicago.

[JayPro]

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The cranes look like two big-ass knitting needles.

[scalziand]

Ah, finally, a good question!

The antenna is modular, divided up into ~10 foot sections. That gives two likely options: The first is that they lift the narrower top portion (30 or 40 feet tall containing the pinnacle and beacon) to the roof. Then they'll jack the top up and insert the lower modules in piece by piece. Similar method to the Chrysler Building and Khalifa Tower.

The other alternative is lifting 10 or 20 foot sections up by helicopter and securing each in place. This time they finish with the top section. A crane might install the first 1 or 2 sections, but beyond that, the crane won't be tall enough to complete the job. Similar to the Trump Chicago.

Isn't the spire guyed? Wouldn't that make it difficult to jack up, having to adjust the guy wires as it is jacked up?

[JoePDX]

Thanks to Otie on SSC.

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Btw...anyone know where NYguy is? He's been gone for 20 days.

And just imagine.4 World Trade Center will be 120 feet TALLER than 1 WTC is NOW and its the Smallest of the New Towers!!

[MadGnome]

The cranes look like two big-ass knitting needles.

They are. The operators are going "Bolt one, weld two" all day long.

[Kanto]

And just imagine.4 World Trade Center will be 120 feet TALLER than 1 WTC is NOW and its the Smallest of the New Towers!!

That's still quite small :tantrum:

[MadGnome]

Isn't the spire guyed? Wouldn't that make it difficult to jack up, having to adjust the guy wires as it is jacked up?

Not at all. There are all sizes of towers done that way. You just pay the guys off winches that keep them properly tensioned as the tower goes up. I use to do 100 foot radio towers that way in Africa using guys on hand winches.
WTC1 might be more complicated because they could use temporary steel guys while raising it and attach the mega kevlar guys when they were done.

Or, they might use some method I never imagined. I'm a little out of date and don't have any experience with spires on buildings.

[animatedmartian]

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[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Wow, amazing updates. It's the 70th floor, right?

[Zapatan]

That's still quite small :tantrum:

Yep, 980 foot buildings sure are tiny :koko:

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Yep, 980 foot buildings sure are tiny :koko:

It's not 980ft at the time. That would be very very close to be a supertall.

[JesseNewYorkCity]

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Those sure are some nice yachts! :)

[TANGELD_SLC]

:previous: Simply gorgeous :notacrook:

[THE BIG APPLE]

I only have two things to say.

1. You have to see this building in person to believe how mammoth it is.
2. I'm sure this has been said before, but the glass looks awesome.

Enjoy the not so worthwhile pics, because i took them while on the run.

JUNE 17, 2011

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[sterlippo1]

At the WTC site everything below 1368 feet is short.

point Kanto!;) i'm liking your enthusiasm and i share your love for the tall stuff but i also love this developement as is though honestly it took me a long time to get to that point as i too longed for the twins to be rebuilt.......but this is going to be spectacular:cheers:

[urbanlife]

I only have two things to say.

1. You have to see this building in person to believe how mammoth it is.
2. I'm sure this has been said before, but the glass looks awesome.



I have to agree about the size of the tower already, I was in NYC at the beginning of May and was staying in Lower Manhattan for several days, so I saw this building daily, and it is definitely mammoth and only getting bigger.

Though personally I am not a fan of the building because besides being tall, it is nothing more than another glass office building. Though while saying that, I am trying to hold off on my final opinion of the tower until I see it completed because the original towers were basically boring buildings but in context with the rest of the city and their sheer size, they were amazing to see.

[JayPro]

@Urbanlife

The first big thing that might change opinions of this tower as a boring monolith will be when the facade is high enough that sun and sky will reflect it. This, remember, is the centerpiece of a four tower complex that ascends/descends. The original twins simply dominated Downtown to the point of overbearingness, especially when viewed from Jersey, and even more especially before BPC.
Also, other products of the Downtown Boom like Gehry NY, 99 Church and 56 Leonard are pushing the skyline northward. This will mitigate what might be perceived by some as the WTC Complex's over-dominance and make it more of the peak it should be. Mr. Yamasaki's originals didn't create a skyline peak as much as it did the opportunity for many to visualize the twins as planting two redwoods in a bonsai patch.

[urbanlife]

@Urbanlife

The first big thing that might change opinions of this tower as a boring monolith will be when the facade is high enough that sun and sky will reflect it. This, remember, is the centerpiece of a four tower complex that ascends/descends. The original twins simply dominated Downtown to the point of overbearingness, especially when viewed from Jersey, and even more especially before BPC.
Also, other products of the Downtown Boom like Gehry NY, 99 Church and 56 Leonard are pushing the skyline northward. This will mitigate what might be perceived by some as the WTC Complex's over-dominance and make it more of the peak it should be. Mr. Yamasaki's originals didn't create a skyline peak as much as it did the opportunity for many to visualize the twins as planting two redwoods in a bonsai patch.

That is a good point, which is one of those reasons why I kind of want to hold out my final opinion because I am curious what the light reflection on the tower is going to be like in combination with downtown. And I do like the fact that it feels like it is more apart of downtown rather than a separate site within downtown.

Though the Gehry building is another thing, I do agree with it stretching downtown more northward, which is a good thing, but dammit do I hate that building so much and even more so now that it is named after Gehry. :sly: But that is a whole different topic.

[THE BIG APPLE]

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[pico44]

Though the Gehry building is another thing, I do agree with it stretching downtown more northward, which is a good thing, but dammit do I hate that building so much and even more so now that it is named after Gehry. :sly: But that is a whole different topic.


Translation: Go ahead and discredit my opinion on everything because I obviously allow an irrational hatred of someone retard my judgment, even on objects of objective beauty. Carry on...

[THE BIG APPLE]

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[THE BIG APPLE]

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[urbanlife]

Translation: Go ahead and discredit my opinion on everything because I obviously allow an irrational hatred of someone retard my judgment, even on objects of objective beauty. Carry on...

huh? It is a slab concrete building with a facade that will more than likely be plagued with leaks and insulation issues. I could care less if others like that tower because that is sort of the point of architecture. No one building is loved or hated by everyone. I am sure for as many people that hate a building, you can find plenty of people who like it, so I see no reason to discredit any of your opinions about architecture.

[THE BIG APPLE]

A bit old but its got to be posted if it isn't already

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[THE BIG APPLE]

Word going around is that there will be NO outdoor observation deck like there was on the south toweer. Durst says it's near impossible. So no restaurant and now no outdoor deck. What we have now is a two story indoor deck with NO VIEW of the Brooklyn Bridge and Lower Manhattan.

[JSsocal]

There was never a plan for an outdoor deck, this is really old news. There is just no room up top, and this has been discussed numerous times before as to why it is not possible and so just know that it will not happen. The restaurant is a more recent development, and hopefully they will find someone willing to operate the restaurant in the future, as the space is still there. Until then the floor may be similar to the top floor of 7wtc, and just used as an event space.

[animatedmartian]

A bit old but its got to be posted if it isn't already

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I found one for you that's from the same spot and slightly more recent. :D

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[animatedmartian]

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Interesting view...

[THE BIG APPLE]

I'm sure i'm not the only one who feels that the only improvement to the skyline will be when looking from the SW/W. Other than that I feel the new complex is great BUT is just a better looking and well planed version of the 'worlds tallest block'/dubai marina.

[hunser]

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[Kanto]

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This photo is pure awesomeness :awesome:

[JesseNewYorkCity]

Word going around is that there will be NO outdoor observation deck like there was on the south toweer. Durst says it's near impossible. So no restaurant and now no outdoor deck. What we have now is a two story indoor deck with NO VIEW of the Brooklyn Bridge and Lower Manhattan.


Dude, are you KIDDING ME!? I was really excited and hoping there would be one at the very top of the building where we could go outside on the roof like there was on the South tower on the old World Trade Center... That just makes me mad now :(

[JesseNewYorkCity]

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Wow! Where was this taken at?

[Fishman92]

Dude, are you KIDDING ME!? I was really excited and hoping there would be one at the very top of the building where we could go outside on the roof like there was on the South tower on the old World Trade Center... That just makes me mad now :(

ehh, i wouldn't worry, there is an indoor one planned. But none of the the towers have space for a view. I would have like one, but it's not in the plan so oh well.

[sterlippo1]

Wow! Where was this taken at?

looks like from Staten Island at the baseball park near the ferry terminal i believe

[Don098]

Dude where the hell have you guys been? This news is seriously YEARS old. LOL :haha:

[Kanto]

The absence of an outdoor observation deck is really bad. Thare's nothing like enjoying the wind while enjoying the view. It makes the experience seem more real, when you can feel the wind. Man, if only they were building a replacement for the South Tower as well, as they do for the North Tower ........

[jthornton17]

Dude, are you KIDDING ME!? I was really excited and hoping there would be one at the very top of the building where we could go outside on the roof like there was on the South tower on the old World Trade Center... That just makes me mad now :(

It is sad you can't eat and enjoy the view.................however, you can go down a few floors and enjoy the view from the new conde nast cafeteria! lol :haha:

[patriotizzy]

Dude where the hell have you guys been? This news is seriously YEARS old. LOL :haha:

I know right? lol

[animatedmartian]

A couple of video updates from the past few weeks.
One from the river and...
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...one from Vesey Street.
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I sort of enjoy the odd music choice. :haha:

[NYC2ATX]

looks like from Staten Island at the baseball park near the ferry terminal i believe

YEAH! Love that view. Staten Island represent :notacrook: Thanks for posting that hunser, the views from the Ferry Terminal and the RCB Ballpark are severely underrated.

[JesseNewYorkCity]

ehh, i wouldn't worry, there is an indoor one planned. But none of the the towers have space for a view. I would have like one, but it's not in the plan so oh well.

Ugh, still.. It's not the same... I hope people protest and write to the state about it and hopefully talk them into it.. I remember I went to the old World Trade Center before the attacks and I remember they had a outdoor observatory and a indoor observatory and I didn't even care anything about the indoor option. I was too exciting to get to the roof. It just makes me sad because I mean you literally are on top of the world that high..

If you asked, majority of New Yorkers would want a outside observation deck JUST like the one on the old WTC. Rectangle all around with blue flooring (okay, maybe not the blue floor), but still... I'm very upset. :(

[sterlippo1]

YEAH! Love that view. Staten Island represent :notacrook: Thanks for posting that hunser, the views from the Ferry Terminal and the RCB Ballpark are severely underrated.

Staten Island Ferry, the best deal in the city;) if you park on the street on saturday's there are plenty of spaces, you park for free and have the boat ride of your life, also free, on the ferry to Lower Manhattan all the while looking at what you see in that picture...........oh, yeah,almost forgot, you pass so close to Miss Liberty that you can almost touch the torch:cheers:

[Don098]

Ugh, still.. It's not the same... I hope people protest and write to the state about it and hopefully talk them into it.. I remember I went to the old World Trade Center before the attacks and I remember they had a outdoor observatory and a indoor observatory and I didn't even care anything about the indoor option. I was too exciting to get to the roof. It just makes me sad because I mean you literally are on top of the world that high..

If you asked, majority of New Yorkers would want a outside observation deck JUST like the one on the old WTC. Rectangle all around with blue flooring (okay, maybe not the blue floor), but still... I'm very upset. :(

The broadcast signals will be too dangerous to have a roof observation deck. Way too many things would have to be redesigned at this point. It's not going to happen at this point, sorry.

[Complex01]

That photo at the top of the page is insane. I love it. I really like those colors. Fancy...

[Roadcruiser1]

It's the same reason why the original North Tower of the original World Trade Center never had an outdoor observation deck.

[CGII]

The absence of an outdoor observation deck is really bad. Thare's nothing like enjoying the wind while enjoying the view. It makes the experience seem more real, when you can feel the wind. Man, if only they were building a replacement for the South Tower as well, as they do for the North Tower ........

Can you please stop?

[STR]

The broadcast signals will be too dangerous to have a roof observation deck. Way too many things would have to be redesigned at this point. It's not going to happen at this point, sorry.

The antenna really has nothing to do with it. Long explanation why it isn't, but in short, you get a higher RF dose from your cellphone when it's only getting 1 bar of signal. Despite the recent WHO sorta-kinda-maybe ruling, phones aren't dangerous either.

The lack of an observation deck is entirely due to the fact that the towers are going to be self-contained air-cooled structures. The previous buildings were water cooled, which opened up the tops of the buildings for other uses. Sticking an observation deck on top of the cooling plant is just not economical. They actually tried it with this building, original plans put the Obs. Deck and restaurant above the plant, but it got rearranged during value engineering.

[Don098]

Oh. I stand corrected. :-)

[Zapatan]

I feel like towers 3 and 4 would be good candidates for a roof deck, 2 might be a bit difficult because of the shape and 1 obviously has the radio antenna...


I've always wondered one thing though, if it would have been dangerous to have a deck on the north tower because of radio waves, the south tower deck was within a couple hundred feet so it really couldn't have been much less dangerous there.

[Roadcruiser1]

Sorry Towers 3 & 4 also has mounted roof air conditioning units.

[Kevin Scott Koepke]

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[THE BIG APPLE]

I feel like towers 3 and 4 would be good candidates for a roof deck, 2 might be a bit difficult because of the shape and 1 obviously has the radio antenna...


I've always wondered one thing though, if it would have been dangerous to have a deck on the north tower because of radio waves, the south tower deck was within a couple hundred feet so it really couldn't have been much less dangerous there.

Ehh. I think only ONE tower should have a deck like the old days. But three differnt decks would be too much. Normal non skyscraper knowing people only want to go on top of one observatory and not come down and have to go up to a different one. We all know tower one is going to have a shit view. Tower 3 is a bit better but not the best. Therefore in conclusion the engineers somehow should find a way to stick some sort of platform on tower 2 as it'll have the best view of any tower just like the old one did (that includes Bk Bridge {Beekman:hell:} Statue of Liberty, Lower Manhattan and Midtown {forget jersey}). off topic I know but on a different note....

this is the first comment I'm writing in four days that doesn't require the on screen key board as my keyboard got broken. :)

[QuarterMileSidewalk]

I would think that the series of stepped-back terraces atop 2 WTC could be a great spot for an outdoor obs. deck, except that they face New Jersey instead of the bridges... :shrug:

[THE BIG APPLE]

I would think that the series of stepped-back terraces atop 2 WTC could be a great spot for an outdoor obs. deck, except that they face New Jersey instead of the bridges... :shrug:

We can't always get what we want, but dammit THIS building THESE buildings THIS complex should have been something that we all wanted and liked in some way shape or form. This should have been a place of the people by and from the people who did all this.

[Kevin Scott Koepke]

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[animatedmartian]

June 18th.
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[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

so you'll only be able to see Jersey from Tower 1...?

[Kanto]

June 18th.
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This photo's taken from the ESB, right?

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

This photo's taken from the ESB, right?

Ya that was taken from the King.

[brian.odonnell20]

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that photo is so cool... the cranes kind of mimic the torch...

[Zapatan]

so you'll only be able to see Jersey from Tower 1...?

uuh, you can see jersey from street level :haha:

[jd3189]

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The Domination of this tower has just begun.

[jd3189]

I took these a few weeks ago.

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May not be as good as STR's,but I like to contribute to this topic in any way.

[animatedmartian]

It's not particularly surprising given the cultural attachment to the site. But there is an appropriate place for everything and anything deeply political or excessive complaints about what is has or doesn't have is for another forum. This thread is about the development and construction of the tower.

Now lets ogle at some glass. :banana:

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[KevinFromTexas]

Read me

The next person who brings up rebuilding the old WTC, the 9/11 attacks being an inside job, or being disruptive in this thread, will get a suspension. No more warnings.

Everyone's been warned fairly and we all know what happens when this thread goes off topic. So there's no reason it should happen again.

As for not trolling, that goes for everyone. If someone here is causing trouble, report their post. Don't reply to them and encourage more disruptive posts that derail the thread.

[JayPro]

That last photo was money in the bank.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

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By Greenwich Boy NOTICE THE BLAST WALLS

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13355&d=1308436071
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[Don098]

:previous:What about the blast walls? Nothing looks any different to me than it's looked for about three months?:shrug: In fact, if they don't take those forms off soon that have been there for months, I'm gonna develop a twitch! lol

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

:previous:What about the blast walls? Nothing looks any different to me than it's looked for about three months?:shrug: In fact, if they don't take those forms off soon that have been there for months, I'm gonna develop a twitch! lol

There poring more concrete on,Filling the base out. Maybe its not noticeable at first but once you look at an older picture it strikes out. I passed by the site today and I was impressed at how far along the base (the blast walls in particular) have come.

[Don098]

There poring more concrete on,Filling the base out. Maybe its not noticeable at first but once you look at an older picture it strikes out. I passed by the site today and I was impressed at how far along the base (the blast walls in particular) have come.

Maybe on the north sides where I can't see? Trust me, those walls have looked virtually the same for months. I've had my eye on them every time I look at earthcam and pictures, which is pretty much daily (sad I know)

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Maybe on the north sides where I can't see? Trust me, those walls have looked virtually the same for months. I've had my eye on them every time I look at earthcam and pictures, which is pretty much daily (sad I know)

Come to think of it, i did only look at the North side today. :haha: but ya,there filling out on the side too FYI.

[steveve]

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this one really showcases that this one is nearing the Beekman/NY by Gehry, phenomenal that one day, 1WTC will just tower over everything in Lower Manhattan (except for towers 2, 3, and 4 of course)

[Kevin Scott Koepke]

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lady liberty and the city. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinskoepke/5852567395/) by kevin scott koepke photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/kevinskoepke/), on Flickr

[The Grand Architect]

Been working on an improved version of my old rendering. I screwed up on the 2WTC diamonds, but I did a pretty good job at the facade section.

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/36444/1484150.png

And I usually don't make models of towers under construction, but I did. And it turned out the construction model had more detail than the actual finished tower!

Side-by-side comparison of the progress:

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[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

TGA,that is simply stunning work! the side by side comparison is a good visualization of how much more we have to go. It really puts the Tower into perspective. Thanks and keep up the great work! :tup:

[2-TOWERS]

that pic reminds me of how the north tower went up faster then the south tower........great work.....

[The Grand Architect]

TGA,that is simply stunning work! the side by side comparison is a good visualization of how much more we have to go. It really puts the Tower into perspective. Thanks and keep up the great work! :tup:

Thanks! I used Otie's diagram on SSC as a "guide" for my side-by-side comparison, many thanks to him as well.

[sterlippo1]

great stuff TGA! especially 2WTC and 3WTC in the top photo!

[Traynor]

That's nice work TGA. I noticed you rendered the pools as having a blue colour as almost every render artist has so far. In actuality the water will be quite dark and slate coloured like the stone underneath.

Here they are testing the North Pool waterfalls today. The time stamp on the image was just a few minutes ago.


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[Kevin Scott Koepke]

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[animatedmartian]

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^^^ Governors Island, right?

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Financial firms seek out large blocks of space in Manhattan
June 20, 2011 09:30AM

Banks look at 1 WTC and 1 New York Plaza
At least eight high-profile financial institutions are actively seeking large blocks of space in Manhattan, the Wall Street Journal reported, of at least 500,000 square feet each, according to sources. Firms looking include Bank of America, UBS AG and investment bank Jeffries Group.

As numerous finance firms near the end of their leases, they're looking for equal amounts of space to what they currently occupy or only minor expansions amidst fears that the economy may remain sluggish.

"There is some light at the end of the tunnel that it's going to be fine, but there's no evidence that things are going to be robust," Mark Weiss, a broker with Newmark Knight Frank, said of financial firms.

Bank of America is nearing a deal to renew around 500,000 square feet at 114 West 47th Street, and is negotiating to renew around 750,000 square feet at the World Financial Center, sources said. Morgan Stanley is in talks to expand by 1.2 million square feet at 1 New York Plaza, sources said, though a recent article in the Observer suggested they might be interested in 1 World Trade Center.

"There's a big name added to the activity list every few weeks," said Dennis Friedrich, president of U.S. operations for Brookfield Office Properties, which owns the World Financial Center and 1 New York Plaza.

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Looks like good news for Lower Manhattan.

[Dac150]

I wonder if they got their facts right in that article about MS being interested in Tower 1. It also sounds like BofA is looking to retain some Merrill operations in the WFC.

Regardless, it's wonderful that Downtown is in such demand. It's almost like a reverse migration for some of these firms from Midtown.

[QUEENSNYMAN]

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FROM: NYMAN2010 flickr

View from Rockaway.

[JesseNewYorkCity]

For some reason, I just don't feel like it's going to be tall. It doesn't look like it would be anyways. I wish New York would exceed the 2,000 ft range and build something "FASCINATING" ... Much more like build the tallest building in the world.. Now THAT would be awesome!

[MrSlippery519]

For some reason, I just don't feel like it's going to be tall. It doesn't look like it would be anyways. I wish New York would exceed the 2,000 ft range and build something "FASCINATING" ... Much more like build the tallest building in the world.. Now THAT would be awesome!

Not going to be tall? It is already taller than almost everything in the area and it's not quite half done.

I would love to see a 2000ft+ in NYC however that's not going to happen until after this has been completed. These 4 buildings are going to tower over everything.

[The Grand Architect]

For some reason, I just don't feel like it's going to be tall. It doesn't look like it would be anyways. I wish New York would exceed the 2,000 ft range and build something "FASCINATING" ... Much more like build the tallest building in the world.. Now THAT would be awesome!

I don't think you realize how lucky you New Yorkers are. You're pretty much getting a Sears Tower (1WTC), a John Hancock Center (3WTC), and an Aon Center (2WTC) within a 3 block area. Many cities in the US and around the world would do anything just to get a group of behemoths together like that.

Just like MrSlippery519 said, it's going to tower over everything in the area. When they are built, it would make other towers in the surrounding area look like they've shrunk a hundred feet.

[At0m1CSn0w]

I don't think you realize how lucky you New Yorkers are. You're pretty much getting a Sears Tower (1WTC), a John Hancock Center (3WTC), and an Aon Center (2WTC) within a 3 block area. Many cities in the US and around the world would do anything just to get a group of behemoths together like that.

Just like MrSlippery519 said, it's going to tower over everything in the area. When they are built, it would make other towers in the surrounding area look like they've shrunk a hundred feet.

Very well said. I am a New Yorker, and I feel very lucky with what is being built. As for a 2000 footer, i dont think that there will be a 2000 footer in NY untill 2020+

[davidinasia]

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Three observations that occurred to me at this point:

1) from photos like the above, it would appear that the "(regular) octagon floor" is very close now, if not being built already. Another milestone achieved, then.

2) the west side construction elevator (not the one in the pic, the one on the opposite side) does not extend all the way up the building. Anybody know why? Is it because there is already a sky lobby finished inside and that is taking some of the traffic?

3) the vertical progress has seemed quite fast lately. This must be partially because the floor plates are now becoming significantly smaller, although it's certainly true that the summer weather and the usual "learning curve" that you would get on any building site have also contributed.