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muertecaza
Jun 4, 2019, 8:33 PM
They wasted no time getting the tracks in the ground:

https://i.imgur.com/QE9clv2h.jpg

Blocks on Roosevelt/233 Roosevelt

https://i.imgur.com/jrGYnOPh.jpg

Facade on Mirabella

https://i.imgur.com/Te6vEYVh.jpg

Local is done on the outside. Build out for Whole Foods is underway. I think it looks great at street level.

https://i.imgur.com/fgdE7gVh.jpg

I.D.E.A. from far away. This one seems to be going slow, but maybe it's just a function of the fact that I don't pay as much attention to it.

https://i.imgur.com/77jHQWch.jpg

Canopy Hilton

https://i.imgur.com/VBVYUVWh.jpg

Mr.RE
Jun 4, 2019, 8:38 PM
Thanks for the photo update! They are moving blazing fast on the streetcar, which seems to be ahead of schedule. I hope they can get that operable by 2020. I'm excited to see the façade of Mirabella go up, those panels look really nice. On the otherhand, looking at the canopy, the design seems so "busy" with the patterns. But I'm sure with everything else in the area going up itll fit right in.

stutteringpunk
Jun 4, 2019, 11:06 PM
Thanks for the photo update! They are moving blazing fast on the streetcar, which seems to be ahead of schedule. I hope they can get that operable by 2020. I'm excited to see the façade of Mirabella go up, those panels look really nice. On the otherhand, looking at the canopy, the design seems so "busy" with the patterns. But I'm sure with everything else in the area going up itll fit right in.

I can' tell if they're ahead of schedule or just that they're getting the "easy" construction out of the way first, since Valley Metro has a timeline of the project and it looks like ton of time is spent just building the stop platforms. I'd say it's a good sign if we see power wires set up sometime within the next 6 months though.

https://www.valleymetro.org/project/tempe-streetcar

muertecaza
Jun 5, 2019, 1:44 AM
Hyatt House:

https://i.imgur.com/9bIUF82h.jpg

777 Tower

https://i.imgur.com/iX3KCwBh.jpg

Also, there is a sign up for what's been coming at the Tempe Transportation Center retail spaces. It's called 5th Street Market or something like that. It looks like it will be a convenience store/deli with sandwiches and pizza. I don't usually patronize businesses out of charity, but I think I'll try to go to this one as often as I can because I want retail on 5th street to succeed.

michael85225
Jun 5, 2019, 6:56 AM
That glass is looking amazing on Mirabella. This is going to be the building that will change the city. There's so much going on in Tempe right now!

azsunsurfer
Jun 5, 2019, 2:13 PM
Actually I live near IDEA and it's moved pretty fast! I am just wondering that now the shell of the building is almost done...when are they going to start on the parking garage?

Also I noticed on Farmer the other day construction signs saying the sidewalk is closed on the east side of the street north of 5th...hopefully this means that construction on the Beam will be starting soon?

muertecaza
Jun 5, 2019, 4:19 PM
Don't remember seeing the website and these renderings for "Apollo," the Gilbane project at Terrace/Apache.

https://www.gilbaneco.com/development/projects/arizona-state-university/

https://www.gilbaneco.com/development/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/ASU-C2-5-Copy-WEB-600x768.jpg

https://www.gilbaneco.com/development/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/c4-Copy-WEB.jpg

https://www.gilbaneco.com/development/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/ASU-C1-8-WEB.jpg

https://www.gilbaneco.com/development/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/C3-2-Copy-WEB.jpg

And current status as of this morning:

https://i.imgur.com/3lqAOwXh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/b1Wsjt7h.jpg

muertecaza
Jun 5, 2019, 4:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/4wtFDxJh.jpg

xymox
Jun 5, 2019, 5:03 PM
I can' tell if they're ahead of schedule or just that they're getting the "easy" construction out of the way first, since Valley Metro has a timeline of the project and it looks like ton of time is spent just building the stop platforms. I'd say it's a good sign if we see power wires set up sometime within the next 6 months though.

https://www.valleymetro.org/project/tempe-streetcar

Yeah - was going to ask why/how the streetcar can go in (seemingly) so much faster than light rail. It took them FOREVER to get light rail up a few miles north on 19th Ave.

exit2lef
Jun 5, 2019, 5:15 PM
Yeah - was going to ask why/how the streetcar can go in (seemingly) so much faster than light rail. It took them FOREVER to get light rail up a few miles north on 19th Ave.

One detail that may speed construction on Mill is that the streetcar will operate "off-wire" with battery power in that area. That means no poles and overhead wires to install.

azsunsurfer
Jun 5, 2019, 8:11 PM
One detail that may speed construction on Mill is that the streetcar will operate "off-wire" with battery power in that area. That means no poles and overhead wires to install.

Yeah but so much of Apache near the University is done, is that being ran on "off-wire?"

ciweiss
Jun 5, 2019, 9:18 PM
Yeah but so much of Apache near the University is done, is that being ran on "off-wire?"

This site has the map showing the off wire spots in the status section.


https://www.valleymetro.org/project/tempe-streetcar

muertecaza
Jun 7, 2019, 2:24 AM
The office building looks awesome from the north side of the lake.

https://i.imgur.com/GmxHUBfh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OxR268Hh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cv9h1Sgh.jpg

fawd
Jun 7, 2019, 3:29 AM
Thanks for the photo updates! Looks like Tempe is putting the rest of the valley to shame!! 💪

azsunsurfer
Jun 7, 2019, 4:09 PM
I noticed today that they started foundation work on the massive parking garage for the Novus Corridor.

muertecaza
Jun 7, 2019, 4:51 PM
Couple of bummer retail closures on Mill--Divaz Boutique closed as well as the long-tenured Hippie Gypsy. Never went to or spent money in Divaz, but it's a bummer to lose one of the few non-food & beverage businesses on Mill. I did go to Hippie Gypsy back in college, and while it's been years since I went inside, I did strangely enjoy the sickeningly strong scent of incense as you walk by. And similar to Divaz it's a bummer to lose non-food & beverage retail, especially one that's stuck around as long as Hippie Gypsy had.

exit2lef
Jun 7, 2019, 5:00 PM
Couple of bummer retail closures on Mill--Divaz Boutique closed as well as the long-tenured Hippie Gypsy. Never went to or spent money in Divaz, but it's a bummer to lose one of the few non-food & beverage businesses on Mill. I did go to Hippie Gypsy back in college, and while it's been years since I went inside, I did strangely enjoy the sickeningly strong scent of incense as you walk by. And similar to Divaz it's a bummer to lose non-food & beverage retail, especially one that's stuck around as long as Hippie Gypsy had.

I wonder if they had been on the edge of failure for a while and just decided to give up prior to the potential combined effect of the usual summer slowdown and streetcar construction. You'll often see a lot of small restaurants and shops close in late spring because they've decided they're not strong enough to face another summer.

Mr.RE
Jun 7, 2019, 6:11 PM
[QUOTE=muertecaza;8572366]Someone mentioned this was coming a little while ago, but here is the red zoning sign for an 11-story residential proposal on the remaining parcel next to the Westin on the corner of 7th and Mill.

https://i.imgur.com/Yo6Xn3Kh.jpg

Any update on the dates for these meetings? Probably looking at 6-8 months from now before this project breaks ground. Would love to see more cranes :tup:

soled
Jun 7, 2019, 8:09 PM
[QUOTE=muertecaza;8572366]Someone mentioned this was coming a little while ago, but here is the red zoning sign for an 11-story residential proposal on the remaining parcel next to the Westin on the corner of 7th and Mill.

https://i.imgur.com/Yo6Xn3Kh.jpg

Any update on the dates for these meetings? Probably looking at 6-8 months from now before this project breaks ground. Would love to see more cranes :tup:

Isn't there an historic house on that lot?

Mr.RE
Jun 7, 2019, 8:57 PM
No this is the vacant lot at the corner of 7th st & mill next to the Jack in the box.

soled
Jun 9, 2019, 12:45 AM
No this is the vacant lot at the corner of 7th st & mill next to the Jack in the box.

Ah, thanks. I quickly glanced and saw the meeting place address, rather than 701 S Mill Ave.

muertecaza
Jun 10, 2019, 5:22 PM
Tempe finally updated their development report. Tempe Crossroads (replacing the old Crossroads apartments on Terrace at Orange St.) is in review for a building permit.

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=74677

Mr.RE
Jun 10, 2019, 7:37 PM
Tempe finally updated their development report. Tempe Crossroads (replacing the old Crossroads apartments on Terrace at Orange St.) is in review for a building permit.

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=74677

Been wondering what happened to this one. Hopefully their demo permit gets issued and underway soon!

azsunsurfer
Jun 10, 2019, 8:42 PM
All the projects by me on Farmer seem to be stuck on waiting for permits for a few months now!!

azsunsurfer
Jun 12, 2019, 4:34 PM
So I noticed the lot between the parking garage and the light rail station at Rural and University is fenced. It's hard to tell from the ISTB-7 renderings if this will be for part of that building since it's on the other side of the track? It looks like landscaping per the renderings but I thought ASU had plans to develop that triangle lot for student housing uses??

azsunsurfer
Jun 12, 2019, 4:37 PM
Speaking of that corner...on the SE corner of University and Rural I am hearing that a developer is looking to assemble all of those buildings for a Senior/ Student living development with retail. From what I heard, the Chevron on the hard corner is asking for an outrageous amount of money to sell so it may be that the project is potentially built around the gas station.

CrestedSaguaro
Jun 12, 2019, 6:10 PM
FAA Evaluation for 100 Mill. I haven't really been following Tempe developments as much. What's the latest news on this development?


Overview
Study (ASN): 2019-AWP-5210-OE
Prior Study: 2018-AWP-16396-OE
Status: Determined
Letters: Determination
Supplemental Form 7460-2: Please login to add a Supplemental Form 7460-2.


Received Date: 05/09/2019
Entered Date: 05/09/2019
Completion Date: 06/11/2019
Expiration Date: 12/11/2020
Map: View Map

Sponsor Information Sponsor's Representative Information
Sponsor: Hines
Attention Of: Brandon Dillingham
Address: 2375 E. Camelback Road
Address2: Suite 150
City: Phoenix
State: AZ
Postal Code: 85016
Country: US
Phone: 602-385-4005
Fax:


Representative: Kimley-Horn
Attention Of: Curtis Brown
Address: 7740 N 16th Street
Address2:
City: Phoenix
State: AZ
Postal Code: 85020
Country: US
Phone: 602-550-7457
Fax:

Construction Info Structure Summary
Notice Of: CONSTR
Duration: PERM (Months: 0 Days: 0)
Work Schedule: 08/01/2019 to 08/01/2021
Date Built:


Structure Type: Building
Structure Name: 100 Mill
FCC Number:

Structure Details Height and Elevation
Latitude (NAD 83): 33° 25' 45.60" N
Longitude (NAD 83): 111° 56' 28.60" W
Horizontal Datum: NAD 83
Survey Accuracy: 4D
Marking/Lighting: Red lights
Other Description:
Current Marking/Lighting: None
Current Marking/Lighting Other Description:
Name:
City: Tempe
State: AZ
Nearest County: Maricopa
Nearest Airport: PHX
Distance to Structure: 21525.75 feet
On Airport: No
Direction to Structure: 94.78�
Description of Location: Ex restaurant and parking lot to be removed
Description of Proposal: Construct office tower with parking garage

combusean
Jun 12, 2019, 6:30 PM
They've been demoing and preserving the original Casa Vieja--somebody posted some pretty neat adobe bricks laying out to dry recently.

I don't remember Hines ever getting behind this project? That's good news.

xymox
Jun 12, 2019, 7:38 PM
They've been demoing and preserving the original Casa Vieja--somebody posted some pretty neat adobe bricks laying out to dry recently.

I don't remember Hines ever getting behind this project? That's good news.

The last article I read on this restoration was that they were planning to be completed by the fall so that they could break ground on the tower. So maybe they're on schedule?

azsunsurfer
Jun 12, 2019, 8:16 PM
The last article I read on this restoration was that they were planning to be completed by the fall so that they could break ground on the tower. So maybe they're on schedule?

The permit has a start date of 8/1/19.

ASU Diablo
Jun 13, 2019, 7:55 PM
The trial that never ends...

Another victory for Tempe but apparently they are taking it up to the state Supreme Court. Hopefully they reject the case so this can all be over soon...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/06/13/squatter-junkyard-downtown-tempe-steve-sussex-ejection-ruling/1445274001/

stutteringpunk
Jun 13, 2019, 8:26 PM
The trial that never ends...

Another victory for Tempe but apparently they are taking it up to the state Supreme Court. Hopefully they reject the case so this can all be over soon...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/06/13/squatter-junkyard-downtown-tempe-steve-sussex-ejection-ruling/1445274001/

I'd ask what kind of person owns a shirt with their own name and city of residence on it, but evidently it's this guy. I have no sympathy for someone who purposely harasses the surrounding community and is a remorseless blight on the city. The sooner he's gone the better.

Obadno
Jun 13, 2019, 9:21 PM
The trial that never ends...

Another victory for Tempe but apparently they are taking it up to the state Supreme Court. Hopefully they reject the case so this can all be over soon...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/06/13/squatter-junkyard-downtown-tempe-steve-sussex-ejection-ruling/1445274001/

Where is this dude getting the money to fight this?

How has nobody offered him enough to get him to sell in that location?

CrestedSaguaro
Jun 13, 2019, 9:32 PM
Where is this dude getting the money to fight this?

How has nobody offered him enough to get him to sell in that location?

Was kinda wondering that myself. It's probably already costing Tempe enough to fight this. Someone should have just bought him out and been done with it 10 years ago and it would have been developed by now.

exit2lef
Jun 14, 2019, 2:11 AM
Where is this dude getting the money to fight this?

How has nobody offered him enough to get him to sell in that location?

Hmm. Maybe the same people paying Building a Better Phoenix’s legal bills? That’s pure speculation on my part, but there seem to be a theme of fighting city government here. Jack Wilenchik and his father Dennis have a long history of controversial clients, most notably Joe Arpaio.

combusean
Jun 14, 2019, 4:17 AM
Where is this dude getting the money to fight this?

Having a business on land that's probably never been taxed right for 135 years offers you a lot of savings opportunities.

There's probably a political motive too on his legal team. Willenchiks are goons when it comes to that.

How has nobody offered him enough to get him to sell in that location?

Or why Tempe hasn't offered a settlement. You can't sell land you don't have title to. Where he gets his notion of squatters' rights is odd, I am unaware of that in Arizona.

RichTempe
Jun 14, 2019, 10:32 AM
Construction on the parking garage for the I.D.E.A. Campus is finally underway, although it seems the 1st building is going slowly.

https://images2.imgbox.com/8b/26/Kk0gTB33_o.jpg

https://images2.imgbox.com/44/12/W7YHUMA6_o.jpg

RichTempe
Jun 14, 2019, 10:53 AM
https://images2.imgbox.com/09/df/OWcJc2cL_o.jpg

https://images2.imgbox.com/20/95/NeypLYDx_o.jpg

Mr.RE
Jun 14, 2019, 9:26 PM
A few months back I mentioned that I wished the restaurants along Rural north of Apache blvd would get renovated due to all the new restaurants in the area and now McDonalds is under renovation. I can only imagine that the owner saw my post on here :D

ASUSunDevil
Jun 15, 2019, 12:42 AM
Construction on the parking garage for the I.D.E.A. Campus is finally underway, although it seems the 1st building is going slowly.

https://images2.imgbox.com/8b/26/Kk0gTB33_o.jpg

https://images2.imgbox.com/44/12/W7YHUMA6_o.jpg

Nice pictures and thanks for sharing, Rich. I feel like this project is flying under the radar a bit. Once I.D.E.A. is built out along with The Grand at Papago, it's going to make a big time impression heading into Tempe from the 202 Eastbound.

As for the restaurant updates, I'd like to see Rural between the 202 and McKellips get some restaurants going. I'm hoping Watermark can help spur improvements further north.

CB1
Jun 17, 2019, 11:41 AM
Some pictures I took Saturday evening when flying back to town.

http://i67.tinypic.com/233b5j.jpg

CB1
Jun 17, 2019, 11:58 AM
http://i64.tinypic.com/2drx4ra.jpg

CB1
Jun 17, 2019, 11:59 AM
http://i63.tinypic.com/5umxs0.jpg[/IMG]

Mr.RE
Jun 17, 2019, 3:39 PM
Does anyone know what all the boxed up date palms are for on the corner of Terrace/Apache? Seems to be a holding area but there are not developments near by close enough along to start landscaping Improvements?

azsunsurfer
Jun 18, 2019, 2:04 PM
So there are two new zoning signs up. One for a rezoning for high(er) density housing at the corner of 5th and Roosevelt (where a rather large single family lot was for sale) and another west of the Cresent/ Novel apartment on the corner of Hardy and Rio across the street from IDEA. I might try to take some pics of the signs this week unless anyone else beats me to it? Also looks like they also posted a new sign for the Eastline Village on Apache.

Mr.RE
Jun 18, 2019, 3:47 PM
https://www.orionprop.com/topfive/virtua-breaks-ground-on-another-opportunity-zone-build/

New apartment project breaks ground on Broadway east of McClintock. This vacant lot has been an eyesore for a very long time.

muertecaza
Jun 18, 2019, 9:54 PM
So there are two new zoning signs up. One for a rezoning for high(er) density housing at the corner of 5th and Roosevelt (where a rather large single family lot was for sale) and another west of the Cresent/ Novel apartment on the corner of Hardy and Rio across the street from IDEA. I might try to take some pics of the signs this week unless anyone else beats me to it? Also looks like they also posted a new sign for the Eastline Village on Apache.

Unfortunately, the new signs are just for the meetings for Tempe's new Urban Core Master Plan. I posted a picture of the Eastline Village sign a while back.

Mr.RE
Jun 19, 2019, 6:30 PM
Apparently the Student Housing Developer, Aspen Heights, has backed out of their deal to develop 262 units. The land is has been marketed for lease again and last I heard its moving forward with a out of state developer under a new name and design.

Also the high rise/high density MF site in Novus was marketed a couple months ago, I believe a developer has been expected and should be in front of plan review by the end of summer. Hopefully these two apartments and the office tower at Rural/University can get going to fill up Phase 3!!

Any news on when ITSB-7 will start construction?

azsunsurfer
Jun 19, 2019, 7:40 PM
Apparently the Student Housing Developer, Aspen Heights, has backed out of their deal to develop 262 units. The land is has been marketed for lease again and last I heard its moving forward with a out of state developer under a new name and design.

Also the high rise/high density MF site in Novus was marketed a couple months ago, I believe a developer has been expected and should be in front of plan review by the end of summer. Hopefully these two apartments and the office tower at Rural/University can get going to fill up Phase 3!!

Any news on when ITSB-7 will start construction?

Is this the site next to the Hyatt hotel? It's like a slither between the hotel and the Aspen Heights site?

Also I bet you anything the amount of retail ASU/ Catellus wanted for the Aspen Heights site is probably what eventually got the developer to abandon it. No one just walks away from a multi-family site in Tempe in good times or bad! Especially when the infrastructure has been so heavily subsidized!

azsunsurfer
Jun 19, 2019, 7:41 PM
Also how come you "believe" they have been selected. It's either they have or they haven't! lol, thanks for the info.

azsunsurfer
Jun 21, 2019, 6:35 PM
I was worried yesterday that University House was on fire! (at least some on this forum probably wouldn't mind) however it just as intense fire at the dumpster for the building. Not sure what started it!

muertecaza
Jun 24, 2019, 9:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/yXRjOM8h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4Mgodeoh.jpg

combusean
Jun 25, 2019, 12:05 AM
Oh wow is that garage big. And it's next to another enormous garage. RIP anyone commuting on Rural/Scottsdale when this thing is leased out.

Mr.RE
Jun 25, 2019, 3:11 PM
Oh wow is that garage big. And it's next to another enormous garage. RIP anyone commuting on Rural/Scottsdale when this thing is leased out.

No kidding. Especially if Phase 2 gets built, the hotel and the highrise multifamily piece behind it that intersection will be terrible. Might have to build another bridge across the lake at that point:haha:

shawneriksmith
Jun 25, 2019, 3:25 PM
No kidding. Especially if Phase 2 gets built, the hotel and the highrise multifamily piece behind it that intersection will be terrible. Might have to build another bridge across the lake at that point:haha:

Or you know, a light rail going up Rural/Scottsdale...but one can dream.

xymox
Jun 25, 2019, 4:08 PM
Oh wow is that garage big. And it's next to another enormous garage. RIP anyone commuting on Rural/Scottsdale when this thing is leased out.

Its more or less been a disaster with the State Farm campus opening up to full capacity. That area is a nightmare at rush hour - game nights are even worse.

I get why all the development is going up there, but man, it sure seems that no one thought of how to manage all the people in/out of there of what amounts to two exits off of the 202. Its too bad Center Parkway never went across the river/lake....if that would even help at this point.

muertecaza
Jun 25, 2019, 4:26 PM
Its more or less been a disaster with the State Farm campus opening up to full capacity. That area is a nightmare at rush hour - game nights are even worse.

I get why all the development is going up there, but man, it sure seems that no one thought of how to manage all the people in/out of there of what amounts to two exits off of the 202. Its too bad Center Parkway never went across the river/lake....if that would even help at this point.

But if Center Parkway went across the lake, more people would think to use that freeway on-ramp to get out of Tempe and mess up my go-to route (when I have to drive a car) :)(Mill Ave. bridge over to Center Parkway. Don't know how much faster it is, but is sure less annoying.)

I mostly view traffic as a feature not a bug--and indication an area is desirable and dense. It still surprises me how few people bike commute--it's a dream to bike into Tempe. But yeah, the traffic will only get worse if they keep building large, over-parked developments.

xymox
Jun 25, 2019, 5:11 PM
But if Center Parkway went across the lake, more people would think to use that freeway on-ramp to get out of Tempe and mess up my go-to route (when I have to drive a car) :)(Mill Ave. bridge over to Center Parkway. Don't know how much faster it is, but is sure less annoying.)

I mostly view traffic as a feature not a bug--and indication an area is desirable and dense. It still surprises me how few people bike commute--it's a dream to bike into Tempe. But yeah, the traffic will only get worse if they keep building large, over-parked developments.

I think the issue is when you develop these major employment corridors is that you wind up with large companies that draw employees from across the valley - not just local. Its not practical (or even possible) for all the State Farm employees, Amazon employees, etc to live right there at a distance from which they can bike. We have a shortage on housing inventory as it is valley wide. This is where the 202 comes into play - and then the limited entry/exits from it during rush hour. The Scottsdale Airpark has these issues too for sure - but there seems to be a lot more surface road options to keep things flowing. Tempe is quite limited in that area - with no obvious solution to it. Well, maybe other than flying cars - but even then you have the airport there. ;)

exit2lef
Jun 25, 2019, 5:20 PM
I think the issue is when you develop these major employment corridors is that you wind up with large companies that draw employees from across the valley - not just local. Its not practical (or even possible) for all the State Farm employees, Amazon employees, etc to live right there at a distance from which they can bike. We have a shortage on housing inventory as it is valley wide. This is where the 202 comes into play - and then the limited entry/exits from it during rush hour. The Scottsdale Airpark has these issues too for sure - but there seems to be a lot more surface road options to keep things flowing. Tempe is quite limited in that area - with no obvious solution to it. Well, maybe other than flying cars - but even then you have the airport there. ;)

When I worked in Tempe, I used a mixed mode commute -- light rail + bike -- to travel between Tempe and Phoenix. A lot of my coworkers seemed amazed this was possible. They'd assume I lived right near the office when they saw me pedaling.

Still, there is a need for more solutions. I think Valley Metro and Tempe should take a serious look at establishing some express bus routes that serve downtown Tempe. Right now, everything is hubbed in downtown Phoenix, but, as you point out, downtown Tempe employers are drawing people from throughout the metro area, beyond the reach of light rail. About ten years ago, there was an express bus from Queen Creek to Tempe, but it didn't draw enough riders to continue. I suspect enough has changed a decade later that a second try might be worthwhile.

Obadno
Jun 25, 2019, 6:47 PM
Or you know, a light rail going up Rural/Scottsdale...but one can dream.

Scottsdale refuses to do anything involving other valley cities including the light rail.


Back in 06' the Mayor of Scottsdale said something like "We arent interested in being that Connected to other Valley cities"

CrestedSaguaro
Jun 25, 2019, 6:53 PM
Scottsdale refuses to do anything involving other valley cities including the light rail.


Back in 06' the Mayor of Scottsdale said something like "We arent interested in being that Connected to other Valley cities"

I think their thinking will change as Scottsdale and Tempe densifies along Scottsdale Rd. Traffic is bad enough and they have several more multi-family residential projects in the pipeline. Traffic will eventually become too congested and they are going to have to look for other options.

combusean
Jun 25, 2019, 7:17 PM
I don't know how you can look at at least South Scottsdale and not want to throw a train down. I understand how it could alter the character of Scottsdale Rd through Old Town, but they could at least run it on the couplet. Then throw it over to the 101 so it hits SCC and the airpark.... clearly getting ahead of the curve here.

soled
Jun 25, 2019, 9:39 PM
Well, maybe other than flying cars - but even then you have the airport there. ;)

Maybe we can bring hitch hiking back and thumb a ride from Amazon's delivery drones.

Mr.RE
Jun 26, 2019, 7:57 PM
Toured the new local development. Here is a view from their 9th floor looking out to Mirabella. Still has 8 floors left to go!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48134131167_86b26f897f_c.jpg

ASUSunDevil
Jun 26, 2019, 8:02 PM
Does anyone know what all the boxed up date palms are for on the corner of Terrace/Apache? Seems to be a holding area but there are not developments near by close enough along to start landscaping Improvements?

Pretty sure they're being planted in the new medians on University Dr. between College and Rural.

muertecaza
Jun 26, 2019, 8:34 PM
Toured the new local development. Here is a view from their 9th floor looking out to Mirabella. Still has 8 floors left to go!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48134131167_86b26f897f_c.jpg

Looks awesome. It's going to really pop from that angle (although *hopefully* it will be partially obscured by the Omni).

Mr.RE
Jun 26, 2019, 9:15 PM
Pretty sure they're being planted in the new medians on University Dr. between College and Rural.

That definitely seems to be the most likely option. Didn't think of that, thanks!

azsunsurfer
Jun 27, 2019, 1:48 PM
The City's Development Map Tracker has the "Hilo" project (the parcel next to the Westin along Mill Ave) as going thru entitlements and there is a small rendering....it looks nice to me!

azsunsurfer
Jun 27, 2019, 1:50 PM
Also they show the permit issued for Skyview and that it's under construction...not sure if this was a mistake?

muertecaza
Jun 27, 2019, 4:33 PM
The City's Development Map Tracker has the "Hilo" project (the parcel next to the Westin along Mill Ave) as going thru entitlements and there is a small rendering....it looks nice to me!

Good shout. For the lazy:

http://gis.tempe.gov/pad/DevelopmentPictures/hilo.jpg

I really like the step up from Mill.

Mr.RE
Jun 27, 2019, 9:57 PM
That is really nice. That area is getting so dense, I hope the rest of Mill Ave follows suit!

Mr.RE
Jun 27, 2019, 9:58 PM
Also they show the permit issued for Skyview and that it's under construction...not sure if this was a mistake?

I just noticed this too! I hope its not a mistake... but I can confirm this weekend if any activity is taking place on site. I thought this project was dead but Golub could have been accelerating plans through the city tthis whole time for the past couple years.

Mr.RE
Jun 27, 2019, 10:02 PM
Also, there are a few more office developments popping up on the tracker. 979 Playa says a 6 story office building and Ten 01 Playa showed up on the vacant lot site adjacent to the Lofts hotel and Ten01 apartments. Hope to see some plans for these soon!

Socalzonie
Jun 28, 2019, 3:21 AM
Also, there are a few more office developments popping up on the tracker. 979 Playa says a 6 story office building and Ten 01 Playa showed up on the vacant lot site adjacent to the Lofts hotel and Ten01 apartments. Hope to see some plans for these soon!

Not sure if this is the current rendering, but the height seems to match.

https://www.irgens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Playa-bifold_ALL.pdf

CB1
Jun 28, 2019, 6:23 AM
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/06/27/tempe-land-deal-involving-tax-breaks-charles-huellmantel-under-scrutiny-by-critics/1555485001/

muertecaza
Jun 28, 2019, 5:20 PM
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/06/27/tempe-land-deal-involving-tax-breaks-charles-huellmantel-under-scrutiny-by-critics/1555485001/

Strange article--apples to oranges comparisons between deals in the aughts to deals today; primarily sourced by a former city manager that was not involved with the deal when negotiated and is not involved today; vague insinuations of impropriety for Charles Huellmantel like "he has his fingers on everything" with no specifics; no attempt to independently value the public amenities in the deal, but rather just hand-waving them away to be able to argue that the land was sold for "$50,000.00;" over-promising with claims like that there were bids north of $14m, while only later in the article revealing that the bidder was clearly unqualified, and failing to articulate whether those bids would also have sought tax breaks; pimping a "secret audit," a draft of which was apparently provided to the Republic, but then not including any portions of the audit in the article, apparently because the City wouldn't confirm the authenticity of the document, and/or because the audit concluded that there was no evidence of impropriety, etc.

I'm all for scrutinizing deals like this, but this article reads like a justification of a foregone conclusion.

Mr.RE
Jun 28, 2019, 9:02 PM
777 Tower:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48146743676_ff5ac5979d_c.jpg

Side Profile of Watermark:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48146828892_6436a9cd23_c.jpg

I love the different colors in the glass.

Hyatt House: (Not Pictured) up on the 4th floor and looks to be pouring the columns for floor 5. This thing is moving quick!

Skyview: Drove by today and no new activity on the site. Makes me doubt the development tracker to be true about issuing a building permit (unless construction is a bit delayed)

RichTempe
Jun 28, 2019, 9:43 PM
Skyview: Drove by today and no new activity on the site. Makes me doubt the development tracker to be true about issuing a building permit (unless construction is a bit delayed)

Let's hope it doesn't move as slowly as The Pier if it is indeed moving forward at all.

ASUSunDevil
Jun 28, 2019, 10:05 PM
Let's hope it doesn't move as slowly as The Pier if it is indeed moving forward at all.

The Pier finally has columns peaking out above the ground - only took 2 years! :haha:

Spitfiredude
Jun 28, 2019, 11:59 PM
The Pier finally has columns peaking out above the ground - only took 2 years! :haha:

I saw that too. By the end of the year, we’ll finally be on the second floor.

cygnusloop99
Jun 29, 2019, 7:50 PM
I had a flight this week and flew over the pier site on departure. It looked like the east tower was near the ground as you confirmed. The west tower was still a big hole.

phoenixwillrise
Jun 30, 2019, 2:56 AM
I saw that too. By the end of the year, we’ll finally be on the second floor.
That's how long it takes when it's some guy and his kids building it. Just sayin.

RichTempe
Jun 30, 2019, 7:43 AM
Looks like the shorter tower crane at Mirabella was taken down today. I've always wondered why that crane wasn't installed by the section that will be shorter, rather than the part that will be 20 stories. Seems backward to me the way the cranes are/were positioned, or that both weren't capable of jumping. :shrug:

Edifice
Jun 30, 2019, 8:35 AM
Looks like the shorter tower crane at Mirabella was taken down today. I've always wondered why that crane wasn't installed by the section that will be shorter, rather than the part that will be 20 stories. Seems backward to me the way the cranes are/were positioned, or that both weren't capable of jumping. :shrug:

Well I’m certain that if you talked to the project manager he would explain the rationale behind the crane timelines....

RichTempe
Jun 30, 2019, 10:05 PM
Well I’m certain that if you talked to the project manager he would explain the rationale behind the crane timelines....

I'm sure he/she would, but since I don't have access to him/her and he/she isn't on the forum I have to wonder and see if anyone here can offer some insights. Thanks for the obvious. You can go back to lurking now.

fawd
Jul 1, 2019, 12:28 AM
I'm sure he/she would, but since I don't have access to him/her and he/she isn't on the forum I have to wonder and see if anyone here can offer some insights. Thanks for the obvious. You can go back to lurking now.

I can't offer any insights, but I'm sure if you spoke to the project manager, he could point you in the right direction. :tup:

RichTempe
Jul 1, 2019, 3:18 AM
I can't offer any insights, but I'm sure if you spoke to the project manager, he could point you in the right direction. :tup:

:facepalm: Wow, you literally just repeated what Edifice advised. :facepalm: To repeat myself, does anyone on here have any insights or information? I don't have access to the project manager. I was hoping since this is a discussion board someone here might.

Mr.RE
Jul 1, 2019, 5:35 PM
Drove down Rural the other day and noticed a few new red Development notices posted on a few properties. I will circle back this week and post pictures of them.

azsunsurfer
Jul 1, 2019, 6:38 PM
Drove down Rural the other day and noticed a few new red Development notices posted on a few properties. I will circle back this week and post pictures of them.

Don't bother...as mentioned earlier they are notices for the revisions from the City of Tempe to their core planning document for the areas around the light rail lines.

Mr.RE
Jul 1, 2019, 11:18 PM
Thanks for the heads up!

Classical in Phoenix
Jul 2, 2019, 4:44 PM
Twitter is just full of news today. Courts allowing Omni lawsuit to go forward.

https://twitter.com/GeneralBrnovich/status/1146072210953523200?s=19

azsunsurfer
Jul 2, 2019, 4:47 PM
Today has offered a few moments of hope....see my earlier comments about the fact that this parcel use to be property tax generating land within the jurisdiction of the City of Tempe and ASU purchased the land and is now developing it for generating revenue and not education or research...so the Courts are right. I still want the Omni to happen though.

muertecaza
Jul 3, 2019, 6:16 PM
Couple minor notes: the Collective is now called "OLIV" per some banners hung on the fence.

The 5th St. Market in the TTC is open. Pretty standard convenience store. The clerk said their kitchen isn't open yet but will be in about a week.

EDIT: Also, they are cutting down the Ficus trees by City Hall as part of the renovations, which makes me think the renovations aren't worth it.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/07/03/4-massive-ficus-trees-surrounding-tempe-city-hall-removed/1625183001/

Mr.RE
Jul 3, 2019, 6:22 PM
Construction update on Streetlights deal. Exterior façade looks nice. I like the use of stone and wood look materials.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48190325727_374932d1d0_c.jpg

Palm trees being planted on University drive. HUGE IMPROVEMENT:tup:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48190271541_f183e5bded_c.jpg

muertecaza
Jul 3, 2019, 6:26 PM
Twitter is just full of news today. Courts allowing Omni lawsuit to go forward.

https://twitter.com/GeneralBrnovich/status/1146072210953523200?s=19

More coverage of the Omni lawsuit:

https://www.statepress.com/article/2019/07/abor-asu-hotel-lawsuit-arizona-judge-dismisses-rulings-gift-clause-remains

I'm shocked Brnovich even put out his tweet, because the order is not favorable to the AG at all. There were 5 separate legal claims the AG alleged regarding the Omni deal. 4 were dismissed. And the 5th only just survived a motion to dismiss on statute of limitations grounds because of the procedural posture of the case. If ABOR can show that the AG knew or should have known about its claim that the deal violated the Gift Clause more than 1 year before filing the lawsuit, ABOR should win that claim too.

azsunsurfer
Jul 3, 2019, 7:00 PM
I like Brnovich but this was a waste of his time.

Mr.RE
Jul 3, 2019, 8:11 PM
However this last statement in the article doesn't make too much sense to me:


"Omni will also be receiving $21 million from the City of Tempe in tax incentives, $19.5 million from ASU to build a conference center that the University will have use of seven days each year and $8 million from ASU to build parking exclusively for hotel use. Omni will then have the option to buy the entire property for only $10 in 60 years.

In lieu of paying taxes, Omni Hotels is expected to pay about $1 million per year in rent to ASU."

This seems like a losing proposition for ASU. Itll take 27+ years for ASU to recoup payments for a conference center and parking garage it can never use? By doing the math, ASU is estimated to make roughly $35 million in lease payments before selling the property for $10... Good or Bad deal?

ASU is STARVING for more parking and to pay for a garage that students cant park in doesn't make sense. Unless this article got it wrong. Thoughts/Opinions?

combusean
Jul 3, 2019, 9:40 PM
Itll take 27+ years for ASU to recoup payments for a conference center and parking garage it can never use?

Here's my take on it:

- ASU will have substantial use of the conference center--reread the summary above.
- ASU is subsidizing parking for hotel guests, some of which will be attendees for their conferences.
- ASU has always wanted larger, modern conference facilities to replace the Memorial Union's small role in that.

ciweiss
Jul 5, 2019, 6:33 PM
Not in Tempe but right next door. Would be cool if it happens.

Massive office complex near Chicago Cubs spring training ballpark in Mesa going to a vote

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2019/07/05/mesas-largest-office-development-proposed-near-cubs-spring-training-ballpark-sloan-park/1625522001/

CB1
Jul 6, 2019, 6:38 PM
http://i66.tinypic.com/za1d3.jpg