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CB1
Dec 9, 2019, 1:22 AM
https://imgur.com/a/1F9tYZE

Tempe Crossroads

CB1
Dec 9, 2019, 1:23 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Oh9XmUo.jpg

CB1
Dec 9, 2019, 1:26 AM
https://i.imgur.com/U9htZKM.jpg

ISTB 7

CB1
Dec 9, 2019, 1:27 AM
https://i.imgur.com/yE3aDjV.jpg

CB1
Dec 9, 2019, 1:34 AM
I drove by the Pier and it’s about 15 feet up from the ground. Right next to it were KDC is building the office building, there were sketches of the development on the fence and there seems to me some digging action on the south side of the lake next to the Tempe Market Place.

combusean
Dec 9, 2019, 2:02 AM
The 777 S Novus Pl building is looking much better than the renderings.

"no student access" on ISTB7 ... SMH they have to put that there.

I like the dirt pile for Crossroads.

Socalzonie
Dec 9, 2019, 4:09 AM
CB1, thanks for the pictures. You've been doing a great job keeping us up to date with the visuals lately. I really appreciate it.

CB1
Dec 9, 2019, 8:45 PM
CB1, thanks for the pictures. You've been doing a great job keeping us up to date with the visuals lately. I really appreciate it.

My pleasure :)

CB1
Dec 9, 2019, 8:47 PM
The 777 S Novus Pl building is looking much better than the renderings.

"no student access" on ISTB7 ... SMH they have to put that there.

I like the dirt pile for Crossroads.

Hilarious about the “no student access”. Lol!

CrestedSaguaro
Dec 11, 2019, 3:21 PM
Does anyone have access to this article on AZ Central? Curious as to how tall we're talking here.

Tempe may allow taller buildings in exchange for affordable housing, other priorities https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/12/11/tempe-considering-bonus-point-program-allow-taller-buildings-downtown/4391642002/

This is all I can get out of it:
Tempe may allow taller buildings in exchange for affordable housing, other priorities. Developers could soon build taller buildings in downtown Tempe in exchange for public amenities and other city priorities. ... provide affordable housing as part of the project. include park space in the development.

Phxguy
Dec 11, 2019, 4:26 PM
https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/big-deals/doordash-signs-full-building-lease-in-tempe/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ReviveOldPost

And that’s a wrap, Door Dash signs a full-building lease for the 8-Story building at the Grand at Papago Park.

Obadno
Dec 11, 2019, 4:28 PM
https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/big-deals/doordash-signs-full-building-lease-in-tempe/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ReviveOldPost

And that’s a wrap, Door Dash signs a full-building lease for the 8-Story building at the Grand at Papago Park.

Great sign for the office market!

ciweiss
Dec 11, 2019, 4:29 PM
Sorry for the redundant post

https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/big-deals/doordash-signs-full-building-lease-in-tempe/

BIG DEALS | 18 minutes ago | AZRE
The nation’s leading on-demand food platform, DoorDash, has completed a full-building lease at Lincoln Property Company’s Grand 2 in Tempe, Arizona. DoorDash will move into the Grand 2 building – the second of eight Class A office buildings slated for development by LPC at The Grand at Papago Park Center master-planned development – this Spring.

“Metro Phoenix has been a tremendous place for DoorDash to grow, providing a talented employment pool and a wonderful community in which to work and live,” said Joe Drucker, Head of Facilities and Real Estate for DoorDash. “The Grand is the next chapter of our story, allowing us to consolidate our Phoenix footprint into a single building that is uniquely designed for an active, creative and evolving company like ours. We look forward to being a contributing member of the Tempe community.”

“We appreciate DoorDash’s long term investment in Tempe,” said City of Tempe Mayor Mark Mitchell. “We have seen an influx of Silicon Valley companies bringing their regional headquarters to our community because of the availability of a highly trained workforce, a lower cost of doing business and a tremendous quality of life. We wish DoorDash continued success in Tempe.”

Headquartered in San Francisco, DoorDash launched in 2013 and opened its first regional office in Phoenix in 2016. The Arizona location has quickly grown to become one of the company’s largest offices nationwide, primarily focusing on sales and support functions. DoorDash serves more than 4,000 cities across three countries, including all 50 states in the U.S. as well as locations in Puerto Rico, Canada and Australia. The company has solidified a leadership position in the industry – and as of September 2019 leads the charge with more than 35 percent of the nation’s market share, according to Edison Trends.

“We’ve painstakingly designed Grand 2 with features that work together to serve companies like DoorDash, who represent some of today’s most contemporary companies and their employees,” said Lincoln Property Company Vice President of Real Estate John Orsak. “We’re excited to welcome them to the building and know they will benefit from each one of its carefully planned amenities.”

Located at 1033 W. Roosevelt Way, Grand 2 will be a LEED Silver, Energy Star building developed between April 2018 and October 2019 by LPC, the NAIOP Arizona 2018 Owner and Developer of the Year. The project sits on the immediate north side of the Loop 202 Freeway, minutes from downtown Tempe, Arizona State University, Papago Park and Sky Harbor International Airport.

The Grand 2 building can be accessed via two freeway interchanges and is served by below-ground parking and a covered parking garage, two light rail stops that bookend the project. Together with a location on the north side of Tempe Town Lake, employee commute times can be cut by 30 or more minutes compared to projects on the south side of the Lake.

Grand 2 is part of The Grand at Papago Park Center master-planned project. At build out, The Grand will total 60 acres and 3.2 million square feet of office, multifamily, hotel, retail and restaurant space located on the last developable parcel within the 350-acre Papago Park Center business park.

LPC serves as the developer, leasing agent and property manager for all office space at The Grand. Whiting-Turner is the general contractor for Grand 2 and DAVIS is the architect. Greg Pickett and Tom Jacobs of Cushman and Wakefield represented DoorDash in their lease negotiations. More about The Grand at Papago Park Center is available at www.thegrandtempeaz.com.

ASU Diablo
Dec 11, 2019, 4:31 PM
Does anyone have access to this article on AZ Central? Curious as to how tall we're talking here.

Tempe may allow taller buildings in exchange for affordable housing, other priorities https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2019/12/11/tempe-considering-bonus-point-program-allow-taller-buildings-downtown/4391642002/

This is all I can get out of it:

Here ya go!

Developers could soon build taller buildings in downtown Tempe in exchange for public amenities and other city priorities.

The proposal, which should go to the City Council in the new year, would allow developers to build beyond what zoning rules would typically allow if the developers provide one of four options:

Affordable housing as part of the project.
Park space in the development.
Preserve historic buildings.
Use sustainable building practices beyond what's required.
Developers also could pay their way to greater height or density, but it would come with a hefty price tag.

The "development bonus program" could address two issues impacting Tempe — the lack of affordable housing and the loss of historic properties.

Landlocked Tempe has become increasingly urban as it approaches build-out. Residents feel the squeeze of rising costs to rent and buy a home and development pressure has left historic buildings along Mill Avenue vulnerable to demolition.

Tempe wouldn't be the first city in the Valley to use this concept. Phoenix and Scottsdale have similar programs that allow taller buildings.

Tempe developed its program concurrently with an Urban Core Master Plan, which will guide development from Loop 202 in the north to the Union Pacific Railroad tracks in the south and from Hardy Drive in the east to Loop 101 in the west.

Residents and developers got their first look at the bonus plan at meetings last week. The city seeks more input before it’s presented to the City Council next year. Residents have through Dec. 17 to submit feedback on the city’s website.

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How would it work?

To take advantage of greater heights and densities, developers would accumulate points.

The plan is skewed toward priorities the city wants to promote, such as the creation of affordable housing and historic preservation, Chad Weaver, the city’s community development director, said.

Developers could score the most points — 100 — by setting aside a portion of units in a residential project for affordable or workforce housing.

Developers could gain 12 to 18 points for every 0.2 acres or 10% of the net site area that is used as a public outdoor gathering space that includes such elements as shade trees, seating, public art, water features or performance space.

For every $250,000 spent on sustainable features to reduce greenhouse gas emissions or resist extreme heat, a developer could earn 10 to 28 points.

The benefits of historic preservation are more complicated.

Plan would encourage historic preservation

Under the plan, historic property owners who provide the city with a conservation easement that ensures the building is not demolished can earn benefits for use at other properties.

The historic property owner could use the benefits at another nonhistoric property they own in north Tempe, or sell the benefits to another developer in the urban core.

For example, if a 30-foot historic building sits on land that is zoned to allow a 160 feet building, the property owner could transfer that additional buildable height to another property, Weaver said.

Only properties that are listed on a historic registry or are eligible to be listed would qualify.

Weaver said most of the eligible properties would be along Mill Avenue, where many of the historic buildings aren’t protected.

No straight pay to play

To get more bonus points after providing at least one onsite benefit, developers can pay a fee. Fees range from $12,500 to $34,700 per point depending on the type of building and location.

Payments would be funneled to the city’s Affordable Housing Trust Fund.

To discourage a straight pay to play system, developers would not be allowed to solely buy their way to a bonus, consultant Aaron Barker said.

How high would the buildings go?

Under the program, and with the correct number of points, a developer could go from being able to build a 125-foot building to a 160 feet building downtown — the area of the city that currently allows the tallest buildings.

Those building heights could go even higher if the city approves its Urban Core Master Plan, which would allow buildings as high as 250 feet high if the developers have the points and undergo a separate review process.

The Urban Core Master Plan would allow buildings as high as 250 feet in another part of the city, generally east of Rural Road between University Drive and Broadway Road.

The bonus program and master plan separate north Tempe into six zones with varying building heights. The area with the lowest building height is in a residential neighborhood west of Farmer Avenue. The city currently allows building heights of 40 feet there but could go as high as 45 feet under the program.

Will there be buy-in?

Unlike in Scottsdale where developers mostly pay or build art within the projects to add height, developers would be required to provide onsite improvements under the Tempe proposal.

That could make it difficult to get developers on board.

Weaver said the idea isn’t to make development harder or more expensive in Tempe.

The plan would provide developers with the opportunity to make more money off their projects in exchange for the public benefits. If the value of the public benefit is less than the additional value the added height or density will add to the project, then developers are likely to participate, he said.

“Some profit is better than no profit,” he said.

asugrad
Dec 11, 2019, 6:12 PM
https://kjzz.org/content/1344221/phoenix-wants-new-office-buildings-downtown?fbclid=IwAR25nSrwnvvPuAWQcgke477c9jOs7KeZ8WUObbeC_z8kP1vCrACdAp-uXX0

CB1
Dec 11, 2019, 6:49 PM
https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/big-deals/doordash-signs-full-building-lease-in-tempe/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ReviveOldPost

And that’s a wrap, Door Dash signs a full-building lease for the 8-Story building at the Grand at Papago Park.

Awesome! Also, it looks like the Grand 3 will be complete 1Q 2021.

https://www.thegrandtempeaz.com/

azsunsurfer
Dec 11, 2019, 7:17 PM
Really confused by the Grand. I thought the building they are marketing was going to be leased by that Japanese bank that's next door...maybe that fell through? Also I noticed they are maybe planning an office on the hard corner now instead of a hotel? Also that 4 story building planned next to the apartments appears to be taller now?

CrestedSaguaro
Dec 11, 2019, 7:28 PM
Really confused by the Grand. I thought the building they are marketing was going to be leased by that Japanese bank that's next door...maybe that fell through? Also I noticed they are maybe planning an office on the hard corner now instead of a hotel? Also that 4 story building planned next to the apartments appears to be taller now?

Grand seems to always be changing which is not a bad thing if it's changing to keep up with the current office demand. I also noticed there is a new website for the grand with a planned 8 story tower going up next to be completed Q1 2021. Not sure if anyone mentioned the new site before. The old site is still up as well. :shrug:

https://www.thegrandtempeaz.com/

Edit: Looks like the new website may just be for the Grand 3 office building.

azsunsurfer
Dec 12, 2019, 7:01 PM
I noticed today they are pouring the columns for the new pedestrian bridge over University.

skiesthelimit
Dec 13, 2019, 2:52 PM
There appears to be a good size of fencing up in the Cornerstone shops next to Canes. I know a few pages back or so there was talk about a Trader Joes coming to the plaza. Was this confirmed? Or does anyone have any insight?

LocoPhoenician
Dec 13, 2019, 5:59 PM
There appears to be a good size of fencing up in the Cornerstone shops next to Canes. I know a few pages back or so there was talk about a Trader Joes coming to the plaza. Was this confirmed? Or does anyone have any insight?

Trader's Joe's will be taking over the Fast Mesa urgent care spot. I believe they recently applied for a liquor license so they will sell their hard drive liquor their.

Phxguy
Dec 13, 2019, 11:28 PM
Noticed today that the building on the SE corner of Forest and 7th St has been demoed: 705 S Forest Ave. Isn’t there a tower planned for this location?

azsunsurfer
Dec 14, 2019, 12:14 AM
Noticed today that the building on the SE corner of Forest and 7th St has been demoed: 705 S Forest Ave. Isn’t there a tower planned for this location?

Correct....and I noticed Hilo filed for their permit...so hopefully more cranes!

muertecaza
Dec 14, 2019, 12:37 AM
Correct....and I noticed Hilo filed for their permit...so hopefully more cranes!

Oh wow, I hadn't even noticed that they had a fence up! I'm out of Tempe for one week and the projects keep moving!

Phxguy here is the rendering:

http://gis.tempe.gov/pad/DevelopmentPictures/707forest.jpg

CB1
Dec 15, 2019, 9:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/u4XSRoL.jpg

Does anyone know what’s being built on the south east corner of priest and rio salado? Looks like the land is being developed.

azsunsurfer
Dec 16, 2019, 2:01 PM
I was going to ask the same thing! I don't know what was approved for that corner and I don't see any active listings in CoStar.

Mr.RE
Dec 16, 2019, 3:46 PM
Columns are being poured at the ISTB-7 site. This will shoot up fast.

CB1
Dec 16, 2019, 9:44 PM
Columns are being poured at the ISTB-7 site. This will shoot up fast.


Those columns went up in a blink of an eye!

RichTempe
Dec 16, 2019, 10:46 PM
Those columns went up in a blink of an eye!

I think I see a base for the crane in the webcam view. Kind of left of center:

http://webcampub.multivista.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=aPublicWebcam.embed&WebcamPublicEmbedUID=784F6BB4-A9E6-44E2-967D-5E8294487673&HLS=1

CrestedSaguaro
Dec 16, 2019, 11:22 PM
I think I see a base for the crane in the webcam view. Kind of left of center:

http://webcampub.multivista.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=aPublicWebcam.embed&WebcamPublicEmbedUID=784F6BB4-A9E6-44E2-967D-5E8294487673&HLS=1

Looks like it. Good eye! :tup:

Mr.RE
Dec 17, 2019, 5:42 PM
https://app.oxblue.com/open/lpc/grandatpapago

Cool view looking south from the Grand Tempe. Can see the high-rises going up in the background :tup:

xymox
Dec 17, 2019, 7:16 PM
https://app.oxblue.com/open/lpc/grandatpapago

Cool view looking south from the Grand Tempe. Can see the high-rises going up in the background :tup:

The time-lapse is pretty fun to watch! Tempe's skyline rise from nearly nothing...

PHXFlyer11
Dec 19, 2019, 4:45 PM
https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2019/12/18/centerpoint-on-mill-acquired-by-developer-with-big.html?iana=hpmvp_phx_news_headline

Anyone have access to read? Sounds exciting!

Obadno
Dec 19, 2019, 5:15 PM
https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2019/12/18/centerpoint-on-mill-acquired-by-developer-with-big.html?iana=hpmvp_phx_news_headline

Anyone have access to read? Sounds exciting!

Two real estate development companies have partnered to buy a major Tempe mixed-use project for $60 million.

Wexford Developments and Argosy Real Estate Partners bought Centerpoint on Mill near the northwest corner of Mill Avenue and University Drive from GoDaddy founder Bob Parsons-owned YAM Properties, according to real estate database Vizzda.

The five-building complex has 126,000 square feet total, with 37,000 square feet dedicated to an AMC movie theater, 68,000 square feet for retail and restaurants, and 21,000 square feet for office space,said Sam Gordon, principal of New York City-based Wexford Developments.

Gordon told the Business Journal that Wexford has no immediate plans for any major changes to the site, aside from improving the physical appearance of the center for now.

“It’s important we evolve the center both with tenant mix and physical appearance,” Gordon said.

The complex is fully leased, but as some leases expire and tenants choose to move elsewhere, the company will work to create a diverse tenant mix that appeals to the growing diversity of Mill Avenue, which has become popular for young professionals and will be home to senior citizens when ASU’s Mirabella housing project opens.

“We believe that CenterPoint's prime location in the heart of downtown Tempe will benefit not only from the expansion of Arizona State University, but also from the growth of the Phoenix metro area in general due to its favorable business environment," said Rick Frimine, principal at Argosy Real Estate Partners, in a statement.

Wexford Developments has been active in the downtown Tempe market, which Gordon said has been the perfect place to align with the company’s values.

“Tempe used to be known as the place where ASU is,” Gordon said. “To watch the city grow to where major companies want to bring their offices and where senior citizens want to live is exciting. Tempe will continue to evolve into something special.”

Wexford plans to break ground early next year on its sustainability-focused office building called First and Farmer, a project that will include 120,000 square feet of office space with some ground-floor retail in a four-story building east of Mill on Farmer Avenue.

The company also is a co-developer of the Westin by Marriott in Tempe, which is under construction and expected to open in second-quarter 2021.

“Our commitment is not just a financial and real estate one,” Gordon said. “We want to own and we want to build assets that, of course work for ourselves, but also benefit and are appropriate for the ever-changing Tempe community.”

What's more, Gordon said Wexford plans to open a Tempe office soon. The company has offices in New York City, Florida and Calgary,


They are just purchasing it, its a well functioning property so no reason to tear it up, Im sure the interiors need some updating especially the office portion.

PHXFlyer11
Dec 19, 2019, 5:46 PM
They are just purchasing it, its a well functioning property so no reason to tear it up, Im sure the interiors need some updating especially the office portion.

Thanks! That's too bad. The developer has big plans for Tempe, but not for the site. Got me a little too excited there.

Phxguy
Dec 19, 2019, 5:52 PM
The time-lapse is pretty fun to watch! Tempe's skyline rise from nearly nothing...

It's like the 2002 film, Time Machine, as Guy Pearce moves into the future and the city rises around him. Neat view!

muertecaza
Dec 19, 2019, 11:29 PM
They are just purchasing it, its a well functioning property so no reason to tear it up, Im sure the interiors need some updating especially the office portion.

Wexford is turning into the True North of Tempe--they now own Centerpoint, a few of the historic retail buildings on Mill, Westin, First + Farmer, Tempe Town Center, and the old Congregationalist Church. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

vandypandybear
Dec 20, 2019, 9:37 PM
Progress being made on the Aspen Heights site:

https://i.imgur.com/APcDvcmh.jpg

vandypandybear
Dec 20, 2019, 10:11 PM
They are just purchasing it, its a well functioning property so no reason to tear it up, Im sure the interiors need some updating especially the office portion.

The purchase did not include the JPMorgan Chase office buildings & 2 attached parking garages. It included the 5 buildings housing: 1) the AMC theater 2) PF Chang's & Mellow Mushroom 3) Zipps 4) Handlebar & other restaurants 5) El Hefe. Total Acreage = 4.02 Acres or ~ $15m/acre. These buildings will be knocked down once they push through their backlog of open development sites.

RichTempe
Dec 21, 2019, 8:42 PM
Looks like it. Good eye! :tup:

Crane is going up today.

Mr.RE
Dec 23, 2019, 4:54 PM
GRAND
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264929507_2de6aa0d21_z.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264273238_e22f25b0a8_z.jpg

Broadstone Grand
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264929982_3e24f7bc71_z.jpg

IDEA
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264929812_82e0f9bcaf_z.jpg

OLIV / Westin
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264275048_f8bec2b7f6_z.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264736106_34ae0df440_z.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264737391_60b61601cd_z.jpg

7th & Forest Highrise - Demo Complete!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264273698_9e408a30da_z.jpg

Hyatt House
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264931337_d81fb85f63_z.jpg

ISTB 7 w/ Crane
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264930292_663c41057f_z.jpg

777 Novus
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264736336_326595c892_z.jpg

College Apts / Park Place
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264274018_bedfb330df_z.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264274588_801fd4fc14_z.jpg

Jefferson / Lake Condo Paint
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264930812_63c2ecd5ae_z.jpg

Watermark Retail
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49264736906_378604a6fc_z.jpg

ASUSunDevil
Dec 23, 2019, 8:59 PM
^ Thanks for the pics! Incredible transformation. Really liking the dark look of 777 Novus.

CB1
Dec 24, 2019, 12:16 AM
Thank you for the pics. Everything going up so fast!

Mr.RE
Dec 26, 2019, 5:02 PM
Just found this in the upcoming DRC meeting on 1/14/2020.

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=78975

13-story story hotel at 100 mill avenue. Wish it was a bit taller but other than that its great to see this get off the ground!

muertecaza
Dec 26, 2019, 10:13 PM
Just found this in the upcoming DRC meeting on 1/14/2020.

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=78975

13-story story hotel at 100 mill avenue. Wish it was a bit taller but other than that its great to see this get off the ground!

Nice! yeah I know they were uncertain about hotel or apartments for a while, and I kind of wish they would have gone apartments at that location, but I can't complain really, and I'm glad they seem to be moving forward and not letting the second phase linger.

soled
Dec 27, 2019, 12:35 AM
Nice! yeah I know they were uncertain about hotel or apartments for a while, and I kind of wish they would have gone apartments at that location, but I can't complain really, and I'm glad they seem to be moving forward and not letting the second phase linger.

I think a hotel will bring much-needed foot traffic to the north end of Mill.

On that note-it's amazing how many hotels are being added within walking distance of Sun Devil Stadium as of late. Shows what a destination Mill is becoming.

ciweiss
Dec 27, 2019, 6:05 PM
https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/commercial-real-estate/multi-billion-dollar-akimel-7-planned-for-loops-101-and-202/

Multi-billion-dollar Akimel 7 planned at Loops 101 and 202

COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE | 6 hours ago | AZRE
Cameron Colvin, chairman of CamCo Commercial Inc., today announced that The Solanna Group LLC and CamCo Commercial have formed a joint venture entitled “Akimel 7 Productions,” to include a land lease arrangement to develop a multi-billion-dollar next generation sports and new media entertainment destination called Akimel 7 at Loops 101 and 202 in Scottsdale on the Salt River Pima Maricopa Indian Community.

Akimel 7 is the future of sports and smart facilities enabling athletes to achieve optimum performance and fans to experience world leading sporting events. Akimel 7 will include 1) entertainment from production studios delivering film, to futuristic VR immersion theme park engaging visitors in ways never before seen and fashion houses churning out evolutionary brands that turn heads; 2) technology showcasing tomorrow’s medical discovery, artificial intelligence and robotics all in a zero-carbon environment. And, 3) architectural innovation fueled by self-correcting solar power grids, complete loop water recycling, and automated transport network. Akimel 7 will also serve as a center of international finance and hub of connectivity, and is located in a qualified opportunity zone giving competitive advantage to investors.

The Solanna Group is a Native American family-owned real estate investment firm that controls over 125 acres in Akimel 7 and is the sponsor of the empowerment model of leasing and development which is the first of its kind in Indian Country and a model that enables simple, fast, and efficient high-quality development on federal trust property at levels never before seen.


Front row, left to right: David Fordon, CEO Solanna; Cameron Colvin, Chairman CamCo Commercial; Claire Miller, President Solanna; Standing, left to right: Solanna Board members Catherine Deer, Chair Anna Lee, and Ron Chiago.

CamCo Commercial Inc is a global commercial investment and development company with a focus on innovative real estate development, venture capital and philanthropy. Owned by Chairman Mr. Cameron J Colvin, who additionally chairs Rise Above Enterprise Development INF LLC, a creative solutions company, that has taken on projects for the late Marvel Comics creator Stan Lee and more. Colvin is also the author of “Never Stop: 12 Principles of Success” a book series and has been featured in numerous global media outlets from Forbes, ESPN, Sports Illustrated, USA Today, New York Post and more. Colvin played for the Northern California powerhouse De La Salle Spartans, Oregon Ducks, and San Francisco 49ers. His early life story was portrayed by Ser’Darius William Blain in the 2014 Sony film When the Game Stands Tall. Colvin is currently an active investor on the hit show Entrepreneur Elevator Pitch by Sprint Business with 25 million total views.

Cameron on Akimel 7, “Our aim is to create a dynamic interactive entertainment experience. It is about immersion into the alternative reality of going beyond the day to day feeling of being merely human. It is about hope and inspiration. Using state of the art modular design as we plan,will enable Akimel 7 to grow and continuously change over time without having to redesign or rebuild, providing sustainable integrity”.

Solanna is directed by CEO David Fordon, formerly the president of Salt River Devco (2001-2004) and architect of the Generation Seven plan for the Pima Commercial Corridor winning the 2004 1st Place Award for Master Plans of Distinction from the International Property Federation. Mr. Fordon brings considerable Native American experience to the Solanna Group having worked prior to Salt River, assisting tribes in the Pacific Northwest to implement multiple self-determination initiatives. Fordon is a former Washington State Economic Ambassador in Japan and served as Coordinator of Relations under the Japan Ministry of Foreign Affairs assigned to Niigata Prefecture to facilitate internationalization programs fostering Soviet Union, South Korea, and Chinese economic relations. Fordon, an ocean architect, was also concept development consultant for Walt Disney’s Living Seas at EPCOT and Tokyo Disney Seas Japan.

Solanna President, Claire Miller, a former three-term Council member for the Salt River Community and Solanna family-landowner is entrusted by the family to be actively engaged in all aspects of company development, landowner, tribal and public relations. Solanna’s Board of Directors welcomes the partnership with CAMCO and Board Chair, Anna Lee expressed, “Our vision for this special relationship between Solanna and CAMCO is to evolve as a creative long term venture of shared values for world class development on the land of our ancestors leaving a legacy of pride for our families, the Salt River Community, and the Valley for seven generations”.

Solanna and CAMCO plan to start construction in the next two years of several brand projects aimed to support Akimel 7 objectives. We are in the late stages of being able to announce an international brand as part of our development. This sporting use will be fully aligned with the high quality value proposition of Akimel 7. Additional projects are currently confidential. Akimel 7 is also currently home to the 2019 Supporter Shield champs of the United Soccer League, Phoenix Rising FC.

CrestedSaguaro
Dec 27, 2019, 6:41 PM
^^^This is already being discussed in the General Phoenix Metro thread.

azsunsurfer
Dec 27, 2019, 7:57 PM
I think the previously approved hotel (Kimpton) was 16/ 17 stories? So this is disappointing that they were downsizing the proposal. I guess when they first proposed the development there wasn't as many hotels in the pipeline. I think that location will have no problem filling rooms being between Mill/ ASU/ The Airport/ The Lake.

combusean
Dec 27, 2019, 8:48 PM
^^^This is already being discussed in the General Phoenix Metro thread.

Thank you, the reservations are not Tempe but we don't have a thread for rez projects. Idk if one is needed. The land is generally "Scottsdale."

Obadno
Dec 27, 2019, 8:57 PM
Thank you, the reservations are not Tempe but we don't have a thread for rez projects. Idk if one is needed. The land is generally "Scottsdale."

Yeah I think the Salt River development should be in Scottsdale or General

CB1
Dec 28, 2019, 4:12 PM
Akimel 7 project seems too ambitious but if we get half the things being proposed that would be a big win. Akimel 7 and the project being developed across skysong are at the core of Tempe although it’s in Scottsdale. I consider these projects just as important to Tempe as any other. Plus these project will help bring bigger developments around the lake.

ASU Diablo
Dec 30, 2019, 4:24 PM
Iirc, last I heard was the delay on the Bank reno was due to a revisit to ADA requirement issues. I'll try to remember to ask around after TGiving weekend.

Are you on Karp's 247, or Hode's Rivals?

Did you ever hear anything on this?

vwwolfe
Dec 30, 2019, 9:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/u4XSRoL.jpg

Does anyone know what’s being built on the south east corner of priest and rio salado? Looks like the land is being developed.

I believe this is just extended parking for the Office Building across the street. They added curbs and Light Pole bases.

CB1
Dec 31, 2019, 2:13 AM
Thank you for the heads up! :) I was hoping it would be something more exciting. Lol!!

muertecaza
Jan 2, 2020, 4:33 PM
Some Oliv photos from the last week or two from Beal Derkenne's facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pg/BealDerkenneConstruction/photos/?ref=page_internal):

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/81805014_2246153348818884_2590863481427197952_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=36-elX55Gp0AQnwFMMKOEbNxKfGakbIQiAVkfkSxo8p1-NcVgnTwXApTw&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=efc46c5e49b87ac115c91ee6d88d3603&oe=5E9C1166

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/80738759_2228345200599699_7108906156101206016_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=osy26C8OrFQAQlWP7wHAaF4315TXevYXlBuCFt3RpRCoc4oLtOS2tl10g&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=1efab42edca849b7f4414f8aec5c7a7d&oe=5E68F961

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/80063942_2228345190599700_6162125210343440384_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=EfosO0n-72kAQlUN-o4yzlP3OfrxG5A5ptvWPWZuMUNzQBd-PrBYL12tQ&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=b2e3783a82e03edc0aa45e4a07239b05&oe=5EB3DA79

Also, when browsing their page, I saw that they announced the demo on Forest/7th as a "groundbreaking," and when I went by the other day, they appeared to be drilling columns. This one looks like it's going to go right up.

https://i.imgur.com/ISF6Pi5h.jpg

ciweiss
Jan 2, 2020, 9:37 PM
Is Oliv topped off?

muertecaza
Jan 2, 2020, 10:53 PM
Is Oliv topped off?

It looks like it to me, I count 17 floors above parking, which is the same as the renderings.

CB1
Jan 6, 2020, 1:18 AM
First and Farmer now has a website running with more info about the development.

https://firstandfarmertempe.com/

PHX31
Jan 6, 2020, 2:35 PM
First and Farmer now has a website running with more info about the development.

https://firstandfarmertempe.com/

Looks like there is a power substation at First and Farmer. I thought those were basically there forever, is this development taking over.

Looking this up on Google Earth made me see the squatter land next to the tracks. Anyone know what the status is now on that ridiculous case?

azsunsurfer
Jan 6, 2020, 3:13 PM
Looks like there is a power substation at First and Farmer. I thought those were basically there forever, is this development taking over.

Looking this up on Google Earth made me see the squatter land next to the tracks. Anyone know what the status is now on that ridiculous case?

No- the substation in fact is getting some upgrade work as we speak. The project is going into the parcel directly south that currently houses some strip warehouses that look abandoned right across the street from the Yard.

I have no idea what's the latest with the squatter, i'll have to take a look when I walk the dog later.

muertecaza
Jan 6, 2020, 4:25 PM
Looks like there is a power substation at First and Farmer. I thought those were basically there forever, is this development taking over.

Looking this up on Google Earth made me see the squatter land next to the tracks. Anyone know what the status is now on that ridiculous case?

No- the substation in fact is getting some upgrade work as we speak. The project is going into the parcel directly south that currently houses some strip warehouses that look abandoned right across the street from the Yard.

I have no idea what's the latest with the squatter, i'll have to take a look when I walk the dog later.

On the squatter case, Sussex, the squatter, lost at the trial court and lost at the Court of Appeals. He currently has an appeal pending to the AZ Supreme Court. There is a stay on eviction in place until the appeal process is done. So if the Supreme Court declines to take the case, or takes the case and rules against Sussex, then Tempe can move to evict him. The AZ Supreme Court appeal was filed in August 2019, so we should get a decision soon about whether the Supreme Court elects to take the case.

PHX31
Jan 6, 2020, 4:44 PM
On the squatter case, Sussex, the squatter, lost at the trial court and lost at the Court of Appeals. He currently has an appeal pending to the AZ Supreme Court. There is a stay on eviction in place until the appeal process is done. So if the Supreme Court declines to take the case, or takes the case and rules against Sussex, then Tempe can move to evict him. The AZ Supreme Court appeal was filed in August 2019, so we should get a decision soon about whether the Supreme Court elects to take the case.

Thanks for the update. I'd imagine once it makes it to the movement to evict, the eviction process will take a while too.

muertecaza
Jan 8, 2020, 8:20 PM
Couple photos from less-photographed projects around Tempe:

Hayden House is looking pretty cool with the exposed adobe and new fresh window and door frames:

https://i.imgur.com/aKU8e51h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Moq9LXth.jpg

First and Farmer:

https://i.imgur.com/HKHvOTbh.jpg

Rebar arriving today for 7th St./Forest:

https://i.imgur.com/6EAoCOch.jpg

exit2lef
Jan 8, 2020, 8:27 PM
The Arizona Supreme Court has declined to hear the squatter's appeal:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2020/01/08/tempe-squatter-steve-sussex-loses-bid-state-supreme-court-appeal/2846171001/

Obadno
Jan 8, 2020, 8:42 PM
The Arizona Supreme Court has declined to hear the squatter's appeal:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2020/01/08/tempe-squatter-steve-sussex-loses-bid-state-supreme-court-appeal/2846171001/

Finally!

Mr.RE
Jan 8, 2020, 9:18 PM
Wow that forest site is moving quick! Tempe development map hasn't even updated to be current based on what seems to be an issued building permit. Hilo will be close behind.. That whole 7th street is going to be lined with high-rises!!!:cheers:

exit2lef
Jan 8, 2020, 9:22 PM
Wow that forest site is moving quick! Tempe development map hasn't even updated to be current based on what seems to be an issued building permit. Hilo will be close behind.. That whole 7th street is going to be lined with high-rises!!!:cheers:

It sure is. I remember eating at the little teriyaki restaurant there just a few months ago.

muertecaza
Jan 8, 2020, 10:04 PM
It sure is. I remember eating at the little teriyaki restaurant there just a few months ago.

Yeah, it's wild. I actually kept saying to myself that I wanted to eat at that teriyaki place. Next thing I knew the building was demoed, and the rebar trucks were showing up. Snooze you lose I guess.

stutteringpunk
Jan 9, 2020, 4:27 AM
The Arizona Supreme Court has declined to hear the squatter's appeal:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2020/01/08/tempe-squatter-steve-sussex-loses-bid-state-supreme-court-appeal/2846171001/

"Sussex’s attorney, Jack Wilenchik, said on Wednesday that he would consider whether to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, which would be the jurisdiction of last resort. Wilenchik would have 90 days to file an appeal."

Give me a break.

PHX31
Jan 9, 2020, 5:29 PM
"Sussex’s attorney, Jack Wilenchik, said on Wednesday that he would consider whether to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, which would be the jurisdiction of last resort. Wilenchik would have 90 days to file an appeal."

Give me a break.

LMFAO - as if the Supreme Court gives a shit and wouldn't decline the case too (not sure how these things work, but that's what I imagine would happen). I feel like this Wilenchik guy just wants to drag this out as long as he can to keep making money (unless he's working pro bono), and I also feel like Sussex is just trying to get this to drag on until he dies so he never actually has to leave.

CrestedSaguaro
Jan 9, 2020, 5:34 PM
LMFAO - as if the Supreme Court gives a shit and wouldn't decline the case too (not sure how these things work, but that's what I imagine would happen). I feel like this Wilenchik guy just wants to drag this out as long as he can to keep making money (unless he's working pro bono), and I also feel like Sussex is just trying to get this to drag on until he dies so he never actually has to leave.

So, if Wilenchik does indeed try to go to the Supreme Court...and they reject it as they likely will...how long does Sussex have to leave the property? I'm assuming a 30-day notice similar to rental eviction laws or can Tempe have him immediately escorted off the property since he is a squatter?

muertecaza
Jan 9, 2020, 5:42 PM
LMFAO - as if the Supreme Court gives a shit and wouldn't decline the case too (not sure how these things work, but that's what I imagine would happen). I feel like this Wilenchik guy just wants to drag this out as long as he can to keep making money (unless he's working pro bono), and I also feel like Sussex is just trying to get this to drag on until he dies so he never actually has to leave.

Yeah, in some of his quotes from news reporting, it seems like Wilenchik was angling the whole time for a settlement for Tempe. But if Tempe hasn't paid Sussex off yet, I don't think it is going to now based on a one-in-a-million US Supreme Court appeal.

A Supreme Court appeal is sort of interesting (if you, like I do, find boring old laws and history interesting) because Sussex does have a claim under the federal 1910 Arizona-New Mexico enabling act. So there's a federal issue that could be a hook for a federal appeal. But I don't know of any circuit split or urgent need to revisit 19th-century railroad law that would interest the Supreme Court in accepting the case.

exit2lef
Jan 9, 2020, 6:06 PM
. But I don't know of any circuit split or urgent need to revisit 19th-century railroad law that would interest the Supreme Court in accepting the case.

With the court having immensely consequential cases related to immigration, abortion, LGBTQ rights, and presidential powers in front of it, somehow this doesn't seem high on the priority list. Then again, it might provide a nice break for the justices from an endless parade of high-profile issues during an election year.

Obadno
Jan 9, 2020, 6:44 PM
Yeah, in some of his quotes from news reporting, it seems like Wilenchik was angling the whole time for a settlement for Tempe. But if Tempe hasn't paid Sussex off yet, I don't think it is going to now based on a one-in-a-million US Supreme Court appeal.

A Supreme Court appeal is sort of interesting (if you, like I do, find boring old laws and history interesting) because Sussex does have a claim under the federal 1910 Arizona-New Mexico enabling act. So there's a federal issue that could be a hook for a federal appeal. But I don't know of any circuit split or urgent need to revisit 19th-century railroad law that would interest the Supreme Court in accepting the case.

Id be shocked if the Supreme court would take up the appeal of a local squatter case that the state supreme court wont even look at.

Maybe if squatting was a big national issue at the moment but it isnt.

muertecaza
Jan 9, 2020, 7:11 PM
Id be shocked if the Supreme court would take up the appeal of a local squatter case that the state supreme court wont even look at.

Maybe if squatting was a big national issue at the moment but it isnt.

Yeah, they recently declined an appeal from a 9th Circuit homelessness ruling, which is a much higher profile national issue right now. No one's clamoring for federal instruction on squatter issues.

Mr.RE
Jan 9, 2020, 11:26 PM
Just saw this project pop up on the tempe development tracker located at third street and ash!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49359152202_983c053652_o.jpg

Mr.RE
Jan 9, 2020, 11:28 PM
Also, a new novice office development adjacent to 777 Novus.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49358493338_268950c075_o.jpg

Obadno
Jan 9, 2020, 11:34 PM
Just saw this project pop up on the tempe development tracker located at third street and ash!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49359152202_983c053652_o.jpg

Doesnt this sit on top of the Depot Cantina and those historic homes?

I think this isnt a serious proposal

Phxguy
Jan 9, 2020, 11:34 PM
Just saw this project pop up on the tempe development tracker located at third street and ash!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49359152202_983c053652_o.jpg

Right where Macaya’s Depot Cantina and all those old homes are!

Mr.RE
Jan 9, 2020, 11:35 PM
Also here is a rendering of the underwhelming 100 mil hotel
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49359181557_3d4f6b04f8_o.jpg

muertecaza
Jan 9, 2020, 11:40 PM
Rendering overload!! Thanks for posting Mr.RE

muertecaza
Jan 9, 2020, 11:45 PM
Doesnt this sit on top of the Depot Cantina and those historic homes?

I think this isnt a serious proposal

Right where Macaya’s Depot Cantina and all those old homes are!

No, I think it's just Macayo's and the Macayo's overflow lot? At least that's the way it looks to me, I don't think it's the historic homes. And it's not exactly clear to me from the rendering that they wouldn't be preserving at least part of the train station, although I can't see how they'd do it. I'm just going off the fact that there is that overhang on the building on the Macayo's lot.

Assuming the train station would be demolished, that is enough of a loss that I'm not sure how I'd feel about the project. On the other hand, I am glad that these lots seem to be up for development, as it's one more development parcel to make the Ash configuration of the streetcar worthwhile.

CB1
Jan 10, 2020, 5:08 AM
Hummm...the development on Macayo seems odd. Less than a year ago Kind Hospitality bought it. The company operates restaurants at Phoenix Sky Harbor and Phoenix-Mesa Gateway airports. It’s not like a developer bought the restaurant.

combusean
Jan 10, 2020, 8:36 AM
No, I think it's just Macayo's and the Macayo's overflow lot? At least that's the way it looks to me, I don't think it's the historic homes. And it's not exactly clear to me from the rendering that they wouldn't be preserving at least part of the train station, although I can't see how they'd do it. I'm just going off the fact that there is that overhang on the building on the Macayo's lot.

Assuming the train station would be demolished, that is enough of a loss that I'm not sure how I'd feel about the project. On the other hand, I am glad that these lots seem to be up for development, as it's one more development parcel to make the Ash configuration of the streetcar worthwhile.

The last time I saw this project it was for the parking lot near Macayos that has the old one story pennysaver building on it at the NEC of Ash and 5th St.

There’s no way they’re going to get by in from Tempe or valley metro to raze the historic train depot and build this over the tracks.

exit2lef
Jan 10, 2020, 12:12 PM
Hummm...the development on Macayo seems odd. Less than a year ago Kind Hospitality bought it. The company operates restaurants at Phoenix Sky Harbor and Phoenix-Mesa Gateway airports. It’s not like a developer bought the restaurant.

Kind Hospitality acquired all Macayo's locations except for the one in Midtown that just closed and the Depot Cantina, which remains under the ownership of the original family. They may very well have held onto the Depot Cantina with the realization that the land is worth more than the restaurant on site, although the historic train station building will complicate any attempts at redevelopment.

PHXFlyer11
Jan 10, 2020, 1:41 PM
These proposals suck. Both for the hotel and Macayo’s. I’m not married to Macayo’s but that stubby proposal is trash. Needs to be at least 6-7 stories higher. Hell, the parking garage is about half the height for the building. Gross.

PHX31
Jan 10, 2020, 3:11 PM
I'm fairly disappointed in myself to say that I didn't even know Macayo's Depot Cantina is in a historic train station. I've been there many times through the years and it never seemed overly historic. I assume it's been renovated terribly , and now looking at some pictures of it from the west I can see the historic looking parts of it. I even see on street view the back side of the building has a "Tempe" sign on the roof like many old train stations had... that's pretty cool if that is the original sign in its original location.

muertecaza
Jan 10, 2020, 3:57 PM
I'm fairly disappointed in myself to say that I didn't even know Macayo's Depot Cantina is in a historic train station. I've been there many times through the years and it never seemed overly historic. I assume it's been renovated terribly , and now looking at some pictures of it from the west I can see the historic looking parts of it. I even see on street view the back side of the building has a "Tempe" sign on the roof like many old train stations had... that's pretty cool if that is the original sign in its original location.

To read up a bit about the train station:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe-history/2016/04/14/tempe-history-end-line-cabooses/82827836/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempe_station_(Arizona)

It would be interesting if the proposal involved something similar to 100 Mill--removing the modern additions to the train station and restoring the original building while building the new structures around it.

But even if that was the plan, there is something wrong about a rending of that massive, unscreened parking garage looming over the light rail tracks as the light rail and street car roll by.

ASUSunDevil
Jan 11, 2020, 7:52 AM
Macayo's has a sign up and looks to be renovating the former Denny's location at Rural and the 202.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/650+N+Scottsdale+Rd,+Tempe,+AZ+85281/@33.4352852,-111.9267266,3a,75y,5.27h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sL6sIwLKxWkDh580lUP_oMA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x872b0918eb971119:0xb789b273d0c93312!8m2!3d33.4354839!4d-111.9266783

Mr.RE
Jan 13, 2020, 3:34 PM
Macayo's has a sign up and looks to be renovating the former Denny's location at Rural and the 202.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/650+N+Scottsdale+Rd,+Tempe,+AZ+85281/@33.4352852,-111.9267266,3a,75y,5.27h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sL6sIwLKxWkDh580lUP_oMA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x872b0918eb971119:0xb789b273d0c93312!8m2!3d33.4354839!4d-111.9266783

...If macayos is moving to this location, then maybe that tempe depot development is a real thing.

Mr.RE
Jan 13, 2020, 5:06 PM
Got word from a vendor I work with that they are supplying equipment to the "Toll Brothers apartment project" in tempe. After looking into it further, I believe that they bought the land and plans from collegiate housing development and are now building the apartments on terrace & orange Street.

Looks like they finally are gonna get one done!

Obadno
Jan 13, 2020, 5:14 PM
Got word from a vendor I work with that they are supplying equipment to the "Toll Brothers apartment project" in tempe. After looking into it further, I believe that they bought the land and plans from collegiate housing development and are now building the apartments on terrace & orange Street.

Looks like they finally are gonna get one done!

I'll believe it when I see it.

muertecaza
Jan 13, 2020, 6:14 PM
DRC Packet for the 100 Mill hotel:

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=79148

I think the rendering makes it look smaller than it is--it's 14 stories, 164'. Current zoning apparently allows 180' maximum.

PHXFlyer11
Jan 13, 2020, 6:22 PM
DRC Packet for the 100 Mill hotel:

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=79148

I think the rendering makes it look smaller than it is--it's 14 stories, 164'. Current zoning apparently allows 180' maximum.

I hate the lack of height, but Tempe seems keen to have lower heights directly on Mill. I DO like the angled building though. If you look closely the base is straight, but the tower is actually angled. Pretty cool.

ciweiss
Jan 13, 2020, 10:44 PM
At least it is taller than the Gateway building as shown on page 48 of the attachment.

On another note I saw a traffic update showing Rio Salado and Ash being a round about with the trolly going through the middle I kid you not.

muertecaza
Jan 13, 2020, 11:19 PM
At least it is taller than the Gateway building as shown on page 48 of the attachment.

On another note I saw a traffic update showing Rio Salado and Ash being a round about with the trolly going through the middle I kid you not.

Yeah, it was discussed a bit ago in the transportation thread. Pretty wild design, but it should work ok--it works well in Mesa with the light rail at Main/Horne.

ASUSunDevil
Jan 14, 2020, 1:36 AM
Found some renderings of 100 Mill from a few years back that I hadn't seen: https://www.architecturalrecord.com/articles/3475-one-hundred-mill-avenue-hayden-s-flour-mill

Seems like a hotel of that caliber should have a rooftop pool, but they must have needed to save $ if they ditched Davis' plan. Still happy to see it get built and I like that AllenPhilip used a touch of the same look as their Canopy hotel down the street. Overall I'd say its a win :cheers:

CB1
Jan 14, 2020, 5:11 AM
https://i.imgur.com/RL6DaT5.jpg

Yeah, I remember when one hundred mill was supposed to look like that back in 2008. Every project being proposed would have put Dubai to shame. Lol! I remember when the Union was supposed to look like this

CB1
Jan 14, 2020, 5:12 AM
https://imgur.com/a/5LMjxGP