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combusean
Jul 16, 2018, 11:57 PM
What is the footprint for this big old lady?

ASUSunDevil
Jul 17, 2018, 12:08 AM
Really cool to see a crane there finally! Here's some history on the site via an azcentral article covering USA Place (proposed in 2013):

"The shopping center at Mill Avenue and University Drive, which was built in 1956, was bought by ASU in 1983 for $5.5 million. Since that time, a number of development proposals have fallen through.

• In 1987, ASU proposed a $42 million plan to transform the center into an office and shopping center beginning in 1994. The plan called for a six-story, $25 million office building for universityadministration and various other ASU activities, a one-story $17 million retail center and underground parking.

• In 1992, a 20-year ASU master plan showed a new gateway to the campus through a renovated Tempe Center. Plans included a diagonal pathway from the corner into the university's center to provide a pedestrian link to downtown Tempe, along with a mixture of single-story and multistory buildings housing campus commercial uses, office space, academic areas, restaurants, shops and underground parking. In 1998, it was announced that ASU was finishing up negotiations with developers and those plans were moving forward. Nothing ever happened.

• In 2004, ASU suggested a new $500 million mixed-use project for the property, which it had renamed the Arts and Business Gateway District. It included space for the College of Business, Fine Arts College and Architecture College, as well as general academic space, retail, a boutique hotel, conference and lecture space, residences for both students and non-students and a grocery store."

muertecaza
Jul 17, 2018, 12:15 AM
What is the footprint for this big old lady?

The black box:

https://i.imgur.com/f8GuZeeh.jpg

Will be interesting to see what the plans end up being for the parcel south of 9th St.

ciweiss
Jul 17, 2018, 2:47 AM
^^^^

I was wondering why Chillis has not been demo'd yet.

azsunsurfer
Jul 17, 2018, 2:38 PM
I drove by Union last night, and yes they are actively starting work on the Canopy Hotel.

Below the "Black box" wasn't ASU approved to build another parking structure? I assume just west is still where the Omni is going? There was an article the other day in the Biz Journal that banks are beginning to be warned not to loan against anymore hotel/ office projects right now. I doubt the well is going to dry to just yet but with hotel projects in the works (Westin/ Canopy/ Watermark/ 2200 Rio Development/Kimpton if it ever happens) I wonder if the Omni might miss this cycle? Also I wonder what ASU will do with that remaining SW corner of the lot?

Sekkle
Jul 17, 2018, 11:29 PM
Webcam link for Mirabella...
https://app.oxblue.com/open/Mccarthy/Mirabella

muertecaza
Jul 18, 2018, 12:12 AM
Webcam link for Mirabella...
https://app.oxblue.com/open/Mccarthy/Mirabella

Nice! Thanks for posting. If we get Westin or the Collective going, it will be cool to see them in the background from this angle.

combusean
Jul 18, 2018, 5:39 AM
The black box:

https://i.imgur.com/f8GuZeeh.jpg

Will be interesting to see what the plans end up being for the parcel south of 9th St.

Thanks. For some strange reason I thought this wouldn't be subject to zoning review because it's ASU. Clearly, I am out of the loop.

azsunsurfer
Jul 18, 2018, 3:22 PM
If you look careful in the background of the webcam, you can see the Collective site is fenced off and there is a truck on site. Can't see the Westin site with the building in the way.

Obadno
Jul 18, 2018, 5:39 PM
ANOTHER 400k sqft of offices for Tempe town lake located on the old Southshore location

Not sure if they are just taking over the old southshore plan or if its been scrapped.

https://azbigmedia.com/kdc-and-the-weitz-company-will-develop-tempe-waterfront/

https://azbigmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Tempe-Waterfront.jpg

KDC will develop the Class A build-to-suit project and Weitz will serve as the general contractor for up to 400,000 square feet of office space. Smith Group JJR will be the project architect.

“KDC believes now is the perfect time to bring this prime office space to the Tempe market, which is surrounded by the lively college campus at Arizona State University and the Novus Innovation Corridor,” said Peter Yates, KDC Phoenix market director. “The site is surrounded by a strong amenity base with easy access to State Loop 202 via McClintock. The vibrant surroundings, quality of talented labor and the investment ASU is making here, is very attractive to corporate users.”

Tempe Waterfront is located on the waterfront at E. Rio Salado Parkway and Vista Del Lago Drive, next to the Arizona State University campus and just east of the new State Farm Campus. The site offers all of the immediate amenities of Tempe but provides access outlets to avoid the city’s heavy traffic.

PHXFlyer11
Jul 18, 2018, 6:16 PM
ANOTHER 400k sqft of offices for Tempe town lake located on the old Southshore location

Not sure if they are just taking over the old southshore plan or if its been scrapped.

https://azbigmedia.com/kdc-and-the-weitz-company-will-develop-tempe-waterfront/

https://azbigmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Tempe-Waterfront.jpg

Confused where this is still. Is it the site DIRECTLY next to Marina Heights/State Farm? That'd be cool to see that corner developed.

muertecaza
Jul 18, 2018, 6:25 PM
Confused where this is still. Is it the site DIRECTLY next to Marina Heights/State Farm? That'd be cool to see that corner developed.

Yeah, it's not exactly clear, but Vista del Lago is the street that bisects the South shore / Pier 202 lots. Based on the rendering putting the building on the water, I assume this is a lot immediately adjacent to the Pier site, or thereabouts.

phoenixwillrise
Jul 18, 2018, 8:32 PM
Webcam link for Mirabella...
https://app.oxblue.com/open/Mccarthy/Mirabella
thank you

azsunsurfer
Jul 23, 2018, 4:12 PM
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project-images/2013/23381/circle-west/pomeroy-hotel-in-tempe.html?img=1

Outdated proposal for where Mirabella/ Omni is going in now.

vandypandybear
Jul 25, 2018, 12:25 AM
777 Tower @ Novus - 105' - 170,000 gross sf

https://gis.tempe.gov/pad/DevelopmentPictures/777Tower.JPG

https://www.tempecenterforthearts.com/Home/ShowDocument?id=63945

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=65354

somethingfast
Jul 25, 2018, 2:21 AM
777 Tower @ Novus
https://gis.tempe.gov/pad/DevelopmentPictures/777Tower.JPG

https://www.tempecenterforthearts.com/Home/ShowDocument?id=63945

We all know I got "height" issues, but that, sir, is no "tower"!! :)

combusean
Jul 25, 2018, 5:11 AM
^ It approaches 120' at the parapet. It just looks stubby because it occupies a fairly large block.

And I think these large blocks and wide open spaces are why Tempe is killing Downtown Phoenix for new offices, especially those within larger master planned developments. Companies want big bloated buildings with large floorplates instead of the slender towers of yore and generous parking ratios. Just like 80s Central Corridor, the parking is provided in adjacent garages instead of integrated into the building probably because it's much cheaper.

A few hundred thousand square feet is still very much "built to be sold" but rather than 250' towers they're in 120' stubs like 777. The proper zoning and abundance of space in Tempe when you factor in Novus will probably kill the prospect of a major new office tower for Phoenix in the near future.

Phoenix will still have plenty of room for startups and other sorts of businesses that go for Class B space, so all is not lost. The key here is developing homegrown businesses that want to locate in Phoenix despite the challenges. It wins in every front for younger demographics.

Obadno
Jul 25, 2018, 5:33 AM
^ It approaches 120' at the parapet. It just looks stubby because it occupies a fairly large block.

And I think these large blocks and wide open spaces are why Tempe is killing Downtown Phoenix for new offices, especially those within larger master planned developments. Companies want big bloated buildings with large floorplates instead of the slender towers of yore and generous parking ratios. Just like 80s Central Corridor, the parking is provided in adjacent garages instead of integrated into the building probably because it's much cheaper.

A few hundred thousand square feet is still very much "built to be sold" but rather than 250' towers they're in 120' stubs like 777. The proper zoning and abundance of space in Tempe when you factor in Novus will probably kill the prospect of a major new office tower for Phoenix in the near future.

Phoenix will still have plenty of room for startups and other sorts of businesses that go for Class B space, so all is not lost. The key here is developing homegrown businesses that want to locate in Phoenix despite the challenges. It wins in every front for younger demographics.

I still have faith that as the entertainment and residential growth downtown improves offices will follow hoe block 23 and central staking do for offices will be the litmus

As I have said before it’s only worth central city prices if there is a neighborhood worth paying for Judy like residential, Tempe was developing urban residential infill years before offices started taking root .

muertecaza
Jul 25, 2018, 5:01 PM
Fence is up for Park Place on the SE and SW corners of Terrace/Apache. Tempe development map shows that they're in review for a building permit so I suspect we'll see the D'Lite building and the trailer park demo'd and construction starting any time.

Construction also seems to have started on the subsidized housing at Apache/River. And construction continues at Metro 101 at Apache/101.

Pretty cool to do Google Street View back to 2011 and see the amount of residential construction that has clustered around the light rail. Senior housing by the 101, Fore, Gracie's, Nexa all new since then. With Metro 101, Eastline Village subsidized housing and Park Place, there will continue to be construction for a while. And :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: if other projects that have been sitting in the pipeline for a while like the market rate Eastline Village buildings, Gilbane project, Daybreak Apartments, ArtHAUS project etc. get built, it could finally start to look like a nice, cohesive little corridor.

vandypandybear
Jul 26, 2018, 10:27 PM
^ It approaches 120' at the parapet. It just looks stubby because it occupies a fairly large block.

And I think these large blocks and wide open spaces are why Tempe is killing Downtown Phoenix for new offices, especially those within larger master planned developments. Companies want big bloated buildings with large floorplates instead of the slender towers of yore and generous parking ratios. Just like 80s Central Corridor, the parking is provided in adjacent garages instead of integrated into the building probably because it's much cheaper.

A few hundred thousand square feet is still very much "built to be sold" but rather than 250' towers they're in 120' stubs like 777. The proper zoning and abundance of space in Tempe when you factor in Novus will probably kill the prospect of a major new office tower for Phoenix in the near future.

Phoenix will still have plenty of room for startups and other sorts of businesses that go for Class B space, so all is not lost. The key here is developing homegrown businesses that want to locate in Phoenix despite the challenges. It wins in every front for younger demographics.

If Tempe builds out like the Grand Canal Quay in Dublin, I wouldn't be upset. Their blocks are broken down in similar chunks to the Novus project.
http://www.owenreilly.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/28-Hanover-Dock-External-B-668x473.jpg

https://www.grandcanalhotel.ie/files/hotel/hotel-a/07-surrounding_areas/hotel-near-grand-canal-dock-01.jpg?w=1500&h=1000

CrestedSaguaro
Jul 26, 2018, 11:08 PM
^^^
I can live with that :yes:

muertecaza
Jul 27, 2018, 4:28 PM
Signage is up for a Bubbleology tea shop in the far West retail space in the Vertex complex off Terrace east of Rural. I didn't have much hope of those spaces filing any time soon. Pretty good sign I'd say.

Mr.RE
Jul 28, 2018, 1:38 AM
Pretty cool to do Google Street View back to 2011 and see the amount of residential construction that has clustered around the light rail. Senior housing by the 101, Fore, Gracie's, Nexa all new since then. With Metro 101, Eastline Village subsidized housing and Park Place, there will continue to be construction for a while. And :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: if other projects that have been sitting in the pipeline for a while like the market rate Eastline Village buildings, Gilbane project, Daybreak Apartments, ArtHAUS project etc. get built, it could finally start to look like a nice, cohesive little corridor.

Both Park Place and Gilbane have an estimated fall 2020 open for students. Same with Orange/Terrace.

xymox
Jul 28, 2018, 2:32 PM
How long has that tower crane been in the ‘pit’ at the site of the Pier? I don’t drive by it very often - was hoping when I saw it the other day that it’d show some semblance of progress.

On the other hand - the crane at Mirabella looks nice on the skyline.

ciweiss
Jul 28, 2018, 10:28 PM
^^^
They are working in the pit and it seems progress is slow. I drove by there the other day and saw a few workers. At this rate the opening will be summer of 2050.

Mr.RE
Jul 30, 2018, 9:57 PM
I noticed the Jack in a Box on Mill/University with a fence around it and workers dismantling the place. Are they making room for a new development or just renovating the existing business?

muertecaza
Jul 30, 2018, 10:11 PM
I noticed the Jack in a Box on Mill/University with a fence around it and workers dismantling the place. Are they making room for a new development or just renovating the existing business?

Renovating, unfortunately.

mdpx
Jul 31, 2018, 12:02 AM
I noticed the Jack in a Box on Mill/University with a fence around it and workers dismantling the place. Are they making room for a new development or just renovating the existing business?

Doing the same thing to the Jack on 7th St and Indian School.

vandypandybear
Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 AM
And another one for Novus.

Aspen Heights - 95' - 262 Units - 27,000 sft Retail

https://gis.tempe.gov/pad/DevelopmentPictures/Aspen.JPG

https://www.tempecenterforthearts.com/Home/ShowDocument?id=63943

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=65418

azsunsurfer
Jul 31, 2018, 2:43 PM
And another one for Novus.

Aspen Heights - 95' - 262 Units - 27,000 sft Retail

https://gis.tempe.gov/pad/DevelopmentPictures/Aspen.JPG

https://www.tempecenterforthearts.com/Home/ShowDocument?id=63943

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=65418

This has already been covered a few pages back it's just now showing up on Tempe's development tracker, thanks...

muertecaza
Jul 31, 2018, 11:19 PM
Hard at work at Mirabella.

https://i.imgur.com/ih6bBt0h.jpg

muertecaza
Aug 2, 2018, 11:42 PM
The Pier:

https://i.imgur.com/BR0kQtNh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BVn7ngLh.jpg

Jefferson:

https://i.imgur.com/t7hMO14h.jpg

Aura Watermark (office in foreground, apartments in background):

https://i.imgur.com/JCBR4GGh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/m6QwUk1h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4oY6SlNh.jpg

Mr.RE
Aug 6, 2018, 3:20 AM
I hope they paint the condo complex next door to the Jefferson to something new. The puke green and browns are throwing off the town lake color scheme on the north shore. Probably wont happen due to the HOA there but that would be a nice improvement.

ASUSunDevil
Aug 6, 2018, 7:06 PM
I hope they paint the condo complex next door to the Jefferson to something new. The puke green and browns are throwing off the town lake color scheme on the north shore. Probably wont happen due to the HOA there but that would be a nice improvement.

It will be pretty hidden once Jefferson is finished, but I'm sure the next paint job will be a lighter color.

I'm just happy the lake didn't get developed 20 years ago - everything would be beige! All of the new blue/white developments look great!!

muertecaza
Aug 6, 2018, 10:43 PM
On Thursday the City Council will hold a first hearing to authorize the Mayor to enter a revised development agreement with Hensel Phelps to develop 100 S. Mill. Looks like it would give Hensel Phelps a GPLET (not sure if their predecessor had one), and the development plan would allow for, in addition to office, hotel OR multifamily.

Hopefully this one still has some legs :tup:

http://documents.tempe.gov/sirepub/mtgviewer.aspx?meetid=1367&doctype=AGENDA

phoenixwillrise
Aug 7, 2018, 2:44 PM
Anybody have any updated photos of that project?

Obadno
Aug 7, 2018, 6:38 PM
https://azbigmedia.com/rio2100-adding-160k-sf-spec-office-building/

Chang in 200 rio, a third 4 story office building, this beacame quite the office complex :cheers:

CrestedSaguaro
Aug 7, 2018, 11:36 PM
Obstruction evaluation submitted for Core Campus on 7th St and Myrtle @ 252'. There were actually 4 submitted all for the same height, but will just post this one.

Overview

Study (ASN): 2018-AWP-12867-OE
Prior Study:
Status: Work In Progress


Received Date: 08/03/2018
Entered Date: 08/03/2018
Map: View Map

Construction Info Structure Summary

Notice Of: CONSTR
Duration: PERM (Months: 0 Days: 0)
Work Schedule:


Structure Type: Building
Structure Name: Core Tempe - NW
FCC Number:


Structure Details Height and Elevation

Latitude (NAD 83): 33° 25' 22.98" N
Longitude (NAD 83): 111° 56' 18.98" W
Datum: NAD 83
City: Tempe
State: AZ
Nearest County: Maricopa


Proposed

Site Elevation:
1168

Structure Height:
252

Total Height (AMSL):
1420

Azndragon837
Aug 8, 2018, 1:25 AM
I am not sure if these projects were mentioned in previous posts, but I figured an update is needed. Here are two projects that have been approved by Tempe and I believe under construction, proposed along 7th Street between Mill Ave. and Myrtle Ave, across the street from the 7th Street Mixed-Use Development. For some reason my Imgur account won't load the images, so I provided a link to the official staff reports with renderings toward the end of the document. Once all three projects are completed, this section of Downtown will look awesome and dense!

THE WESTIN | 225 FT | 18 FLOORS

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=54545


THE COLLECTIVE | 245 FT | 21 FLOORS

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=62738

Renderings:
https://imgur.com/a/AY5iee2

muertecaza
Aug 8, 2018, 2:12 AM
Anybody have any updated photos of that project?

Snapped on my way home today. Sorry it's a little sunny.

https://i.imgur.com/jRPZBg6h.jpg

phoenixwillrise
Aug 8, 2018, 3:07 PM
Thanks mucho muertecaza.

phoenixwillrise
Aug 10, 2018, 10:07 PM
Saw it on the Oxblue site

CrestedSaguaro
Aug 10, 2018, 10:43 PM
Saw it on the Oxblue site

Seen them putting the temp crane together earlier on OxBlue. I didn't know they were going with 2 cranes at Mirabella. Awesome :tup:

muertecaza
Aug 10, 2018, 10:56 PM
Saw it on the Oxblue site

Good call. For the lazy:

https://i.imgur.com/WY8ntpph.jpg

Mr.RE
Aug 11, 2018, 2:53 AM
The Student housing development on Terrace and Orange was approved 6-1 in last nights meeting. Council member Lauren Kuby voted against it due to the developer not having any workforce or affordable component to the project. Many neighbors showed up and expressed their thoughts on rents being raised in the area. Im glad to see this project get pushed through.

You can watch city council meetings at this link: http://tempe.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=4

PHXFlyer11
Aug 11, 2018, 3:09 PM
The Student housing development on Terrace and Orange was approved 6-1 in last nights meeting. Council member Lauren Kuby voted against it due to the developer not having any workforce or affordable component to the project. Many neighbors showed up and expressed their thoughts on rents being raised in the area. Im glad to see this project get pushed through.

You can watch city council meetings at this link: http://tempe.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=4

This is the one that is supposed to go up in the site of that Hawaiian grill (formerly Julio’s Too)? If so this is awesome! Density there will be impressive!

ciweiss
Aug 11, 2018, 11:11 PM
3rd crane up at Watermark. I thought i saw something a few days ago but didnt get a good view.

RichTempe
Aug 12, 2018, 3:30 AM
This is the one that is supposed to go up in the site of that Hawaiian grill (formerly Julio’s Too)? If so this is awesome! Density there will be impressive!

No, this is a 7 story development across the street from Vertex at the NWC of Terrance and Orange. It would replace a 56 year old 1-2 story complex that's there now.

http://i68.tinypic.com/5x3ldy.png

Article:
https://roselawgroupreporter.com/2018/08/council-considers-tempe-crossroads/

ciweiss
Aug 15, 2018, 4:49 PM
Its behind a paywall but news on 100 Mill

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2018/08/15/developer-must-restore-tempe-historic-home-before.html

Some cool pics of the interior. -of the Hayden House ( Monti's)

Mr.RE
Aug 15, 2018, 4:52 PM
Its behind a paywall but news on 100 Mill

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2018/08/15/developer-must-restore-tempe-historic-home-before.html

Some cool pics of the interior.

Can someone post the article here?

muertecaza
Aug 15, 2018, 5:08 PM
Can someone post the article here?

Here you go:

Maybe the third time is the charm for the future of the building that was once part of Arizona’s first historic home preservation effort.

Tempe City Council has taken the first step to finalize a development agreement that will require a developer to restore the Hayden house, which was once the home of Monti’s La Casa Vieja restaurant, to the condition it was in 1924. The house was built in 1873.

The council’s second public hearing and final vote on the project is scheduled for Aug. 30.

If it's approved, and once the historic preservation is complete and the structure is again occupiable, the developer will build a 285,000-square-foot Class A office complex to the west of the historic home, and either a multifamily residential building or hotel to the south of the home on the parcel along Mill Avenue and Rio Salado Parkway...

Hensel-Phelps is revisiting the project and has offered to sell the historic portion of the property back to the city for $10 once the renovation is complete. The property totals 2.5 acres.

“The historic portion must be restored before anything else can be done on the site,” said John Southard, Tempe’s historic preservation officer. “It must be 100 percent in good shape before they can start on the other buildings, and there is a provision in the agreement that if they damage [the historic Hayden house] they do not get to move forward with the project.”

The newly amended development agreement calls for a building with a “tighter footprint” than the one originally proposed, Baxter said, but the new buildings will be pushed farther from the historic home, giving it an extra layer of protection.

The agreement also provides an 8-year government property lease with an abatement of the government property lease excise tax, or GPLET. GPLETs involve city governments owning land but leasing or allowing private developments on those parcels. They result in the developers and businesses on those lands paying lower property taxes than if they owned the land.

Southard said the house was the first historic home restoration in the state when the Hayden sisters, daughters of Charles Hayden, the founder of Tempe, hired Robert Evans to restore the original adobe in 1924.

Now, crews are working to restore it to the same condition as 1924. So far, work has included creating adobe bricks made from a nearly identical mixture to the original, which Southard said is ideal in historic preservation. The bricks are being shaped and baked in the summer heat inside the shell of the restaurant, which has been gutted and the walls have been stripped to reveal the adobe underneath.

Some of the struggles have been similar to what might have been endured nearly a century ago as well. When a recent storm came through, some of the bricks that had been drying outside were destroyed.

Reggie Mackay, an expert on adobe buildings, has been working on the restoration for a few weeks, Southard said. Once the development agreement is finalized, Hensel-Phelps will have until June 30, 2020 to complete the restoration.

“This is exciting because it will be the first time the city has any ownership of this building, the first time the city will have any say in how it is being used,” Baxter said.

ciweiss
Aug 15, 2018, 9:07 PM
Hopefully it passes 2nd vote and they get the restoration done quick. It would be nice to see those buildings started. Its been such a deadzone for a while.

muertecaza
Aug 15, 2018, 10:45 PM
Hopefully it passes 2nd vote and they get the restoration done quick. It would be nice to see those buildings started. Its been such a deadzone for a while.

Yes. Plus I'm hopeful that a well-designed development can make up for some of the dead space created by the big setbacks and parking garage of the (now) ADP building. If the have a pedestrian walkway bisecting the lot going north-south that connects with the pedestrian space between 222 S. Mill and its garage, it will be a decently nice connection.

KEVINphx
Aug 15, 2018, 10:46 PM
“The historic portion must be restored before anything else can be done on the site,” said John Southard, Tempe’s historic preservation officer. “It must be 100 percent in good shape before they can start on the other buildings, and there is a provision in the agreement that if they damage [the historic Hayden house] they do not get to move forward with the project.”

The newly amended development agreement calls for a building with a “tighter footprint” than the one originally proposed, Baxter said, but the new buildings will be pushed farther from the historic home, giving it an extra layer of protection.

THIS is great news - I personally could give two hoots about the NEW portion of this project if they were not going to be able to properly preserve the house. If I recall correctly didn't one iteration of this proposal actually rise THROUGH the roof of the 1870s adobe house? Stupid.

Renz
Aug 17, 2018, 1:33 AM
If I recall correctly didn't one iteration of this proposal actually rise THROUGH the roof of the 1870s adobe house? Stupid.

Any idea what proposal the city council decided on? it's been a while since we've had any movement on this project.

muertecaza
Aug 17, 2018, 5:25 PM
Any idea what proposal the city council decided on? it's been a while since we've had any movement on this project.

I haven't seen any updated renderings, but here is the current site plan:

https://i.imgur.com/h3SLhQ9h.png

Taken from Historic Preservation Commission agenda here: https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=66142

muertecaza
Aug 22, 2018, 4:58 PM
There is a fence up and they are doing some demo for the Gensler project at Apache/Terrace.

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=62667

Mr.RE
Aug 23, 2018, 2:25 AM
Happy to see some work being done in this area. Now if Park Place can get moving soon. Hopefully these will continue to spur development in that area along the light rail.

Mr.RE
Aug 23, 2018, 5:19 AM
Fencing is up at the SWC of rural and University for the new sustainability building. Demo work should start soon, i'm very excited for this one to get started!

muertecaza
Aug 29, 2018, 10:01 PM
Puff piece on Aura Watermark.

https://www.globest.com/2018/08/29/how-the-watermark-is-reshaping-the-tempe-skyline/

Fenix Development is aiming to transform the Tempe skyline with its latest project, The Watermark. The Los Angeles-based developer is building a 1.9 million-square-live-work-play complex sprawling over 15 acres in Tempe Town Lake. Construction started last year, and includes a 265,000-square-foot, eight-story class-A, spec office tower with seven floors of subterranean parking, a 360-unit luxury apartment complex, 44,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space and a 250-room on-site hotel. The office tower and a potion of the retail space is the first phase of the project, and will deliver in 2019...

Fenix isn’t only designing the property for the future of the market but also a future with fewer cars. It worked with design firm Gensler to create a parking structure that can be incorporated into the building’s square footage in the future. For example, the parking garage’s ventilation screens can be replaces windows. “While it would have been less cost prohibitive to locate the parking elsewhere, we knew we wanted to place the parking and office space in one setting to create a constant sense of energy and life throughout the project that couldn’t be replicated otherwise,” explains Loretz. “This is a legacy project for Fenix and has been meticulously crafted to the highest of standards. This is what the future of Tempe looks like.”

I think the author is mistaken in saying that it's 8 story office with 7 levels of subterranean parking. They are not building subterranean parking. Author's own article indicates this, talking about incorporating the parking into the building's square footage if future demand dictates.

While on the subject, snapped a couple pictures the other day. Office is finally going up!

https://i.imgur.com/7rWpa7Wh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tYAAfY4h.jpg

muertecaza
Aug 31, 2018, 10:02 PM
News notes from Tempe today:

City council approved the revised development deal for Hayden House last night.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2018/08/31/tempe-seals-deal-buy-montis-la-casa-vieja-10/1126966002/

Nothing really new on that front.

Lime, which I believe mostly pulled out of AZ with dockless bikes, is now in the electric scooter game. I've seen several in the wild yesterday and today.

https://en.brinkwire.com/news/another-dockless-electric-scooter-company-opens-in-tempe/

RichTempe
Sep 5, 2018, 12:31 AM
View of the Mirabella construction cranes from the north end of downtown Tempe:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2s0mu4w.jpg

muertecaza
Sep 5, 2018, 12:48 AM
View of the Mirabella construction cranes from the north end of downtown Tempe:

Nice picture. We'll soon see a third crane in that picture--I saw going past there yesterday that the base is in place for the crane for the Hilton Canopy hotel that's part of the Union development.

CrestedSaguaro
Sep 5, 2018, 7:12 PM
Nice picture. We'll soon see a third crane in that picture--I saw going past there yesterday that the base is in place for the crane for the Hilton Canopy hotel that's part of the Union development.

This must be what the tower crane evaluation that was completed yesterday was for:

Overview

Study (ASN): 2018-AWP-11728-OE
Prior Study:
Status: Determined

Letters: Determination

7460-2 Forms: 07/11/2018
Supplemental Form 7460-2: Please login to add a Supplemental Form 7460-2.


Received Date: 07/02/2018
Entered Date: 07/02/2018
Completion Date: 09/04/2018
Expiration Date: 03/04/2020
Map: View Map


Sponsor Information Sponsor's Representative Information

Sponsor: Justin Gillies
Attention Of: Justin Gillies
Address: 2620 S. 55th St
Address2:
City: Tempe
State: AZ
Postal Code: 85282
Country: US
Phone: 602-509-2507
Fax:


Representative: Sundt Construction
Attention Of: Justin Gillies
Address: 2620 S. 55th St
Address2:
City: Tempe
State: AZ
Postal Code: 85142
Country: US
Phone: 602-509-2507
Fax:


Construction Info Structure Summary

Notice Of: CONSTR
Duration: TEMP (Months: 8 Days: 0)
Work Schedule: 08/18/2018 to 04/22/2019
Date Built:


Structure Type: Crane
Structure Name: SK415
FCC Number:



Structure Details Height and Elevation

Latitude (NAD 83): 33° 25' 20.60" N
Longitude (NAD 83): 111° 56' 15.00" W
Horizontal Datum: NAD 83
Survey Accuracy: 4D
Marking/Lighting: Red lights and flags
Other Description:
Current Marking/Lighting: None
Current Marking/Lighting Other Description:
Name:
City: Tempe
State: AZ
Nearest County: Maricopa
Nearest Airport: PHX
Distance to Structure: 23014.21 feet
On Airport: No
Direction to Structure: 100.86�
Description of Location: Northeast corner of University & Myrtle Avenue, South of Tempe Town lake
Description of Proposal: 235 foot tower crane standing above grade

muertecaza
Sep 7, 2018, 7:38 PM
Tempe still hopping. ISTB-7 is fenced and moving dirt as mentioned earlier. And they are also moving dirt across the street for the Novus projects as well. Gonna be a busy intersection. There's also a zoning sign up for a bunch of townhomes at University/Smith where a trailer park recently closed.

asugrad
Sep 10, 2018, 3:42 PM
Tempe still hopping. ISTB-7 is fenced and moving dirt as mentioned earlier. And they are also moving dirt across the street for the Novus projects as well. Gonna be a busy intersection. There's also a zoning sign up for a bunch of townhomes in University/Smith where s trailer park recently closed.

Drove down there the other day. Great to see those empty lots fill up! A little sad to see some of the openness go away, but great progress for the area.

Seriously though...what is going on with The Pier? That tower crane costs a fortune to keep there for the amount of progress they are making.

muertecaza
Sep 10, 2018, 6:11 PM
Drove down there the other day. Great to see those empty lots fill up! A little sad to see some of the openness go away, but great progress for the area.

Seriously though...what is going on with The Pier? That tower crane costs a fortune to keep there for the amount of progress they are making.

I'm as curious as you are. Tempe records have listed them as "in review" for a building permit for a year plus. They are making some glacial progress on what appear to be elevator cores, but barely appear to be using the crane at all. :shrug:

vandypandybear
Sep 11, 2018, 1:26 AM
Drove down there the other day. Great to see those empty lots fill up! A little sad to see some of the openness go away, but great progress for the area.

Seriously though...what is going on with The Pier? That tower crane costs a fortune to keep there for the amount of progress they are making.

The developer bought the crane. He's pretty much using the site as free storage.

Phxguy
Sep 11, 2018, 1:37 AM
Speaking of cranes, the Canopy Hotel crane base is in and looks poised for vertical expansion.

ASUSunDevil
Sep 11, 2018, 4:52 AM
The developer bought the crane. He's pretty much using the site as free storage.

Not sure if that makes me optimistic or pessimistic...

Is Skyview still in the works? The site was being used for staging until recently:

http://www.orionprop.com/topfive/golub-co-of-chicago-to-develop-393-apartments-in-24-story-tower-near-asu/

azsunsurfer
Sep 11, 2018, 2:17 PM
Wow has it been that long since Skyview was proposed? Stick a fork in that one- it's done! Also this would be like the 2nd or 3rd proposal that failed for that corner. Maybe a 4/ 5 story "box" goes up in its place?

CrestedSaguaro
Sep 11, 2018, 3:49 PM
The developer bought the crane. He's pretty much using the site as free storage.

Seems like the City of Tempe would have a problem with this. Surely, there has to be some kind of regulation or zoning code against storing construction equipment on a lot that is not zoned for it? :shrug:

Tempejoe
Sep 11, 2018, 9:44 PM
Seems like the City of Tempe would have a problem with this. Surely, there has to be some kind of regulation or zoning code against storing construction equipment on a lot that is not zoned for it? :shrug:

They are making progress on it. I went over there last week and they have a lot of foundation rebar in place ready for concrete.

azsunsurfer
Sep 11, 2018, 9:46 PM
Also what is going to happen to that POS who refuses to leave his junk yard? Has Tempe cleared the lot yet?

Phxguy
Sep 12, 2018, 12:12 AM
Also what is going to happen to that POS who refuses to leave his junk yard? Has Tempe cleared the lot yet?

Nope. Still there and fermenting :shrug:

azsunsurfer
Sep 12, 2018, 2:00 PM
Nope. Still there and fermenting :shrug:

I did see on a friend's instragram that yesterday there was a fire on his site and it does appear that some of his junk has been removed.

vandypandybear
Sep 13, 2018, 2:27 AM
Speaking of cranes, the Canopy Hotel crane base is in and looks poised for vertical expansion.

Came across this image yesterday. Shows the overall site plan for the Union Tempe with the Canopy Hilton completed. Please excuse the scaling. The source image was massive.

https://www.hilgartwilson.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Union-Tempe-Thumbnail.jpg

mdpx
Sep 14, 2018, 10:02 PM
That is a monster-sized photo.

muertecaza
Sep 14, 2018, 10:59 PM
That is a monster-sized photo.

:haha::haha::haha:

I do kind of like that the hotel (at least form this angle) is somewhat separated from the other two towers to break up the big superblock.

somethingfast
Sep 15, 2018, 11:29 PM
That is a monster-sized photo.

Hey man not into censorship or anything but can we not use offensive language here? I read this forum at work and the last thing I need to is to get flagged for reading about skyscrapers because the IT group catches a totally unnecessary term like this. Don't wanna be a d*** but this forum gives me much-needed respite from work and blue language is everywhere...do we need when talking about 'scrapers??? Combusean???

combusean
Sep 16, 2018, 9:52 PM
I edited out that language and abated a flame war but it is not my responsibility to keep you safe at work from the Internet.

If you work for an organization that makes Pat Robertson look like a liberal hippie with their Internet monitoring, you need to take your own precautions.

ASUSunDevil
Sep 17, 2018, 5:15 PM
Speaking of cranes, the Canopy Hotel crane base is in and looks poised for vertical expansion.

Crane is up :cheers:

Phxguy
Sep 17, 2018, 5:34 PM
Crane is up :cheers:

I pester my friend every time by counting all the cranes while we’re driving by Tempe on the 202. Excellent, one more for the pickin!

muertecaza
Sep 17, 2018, 8:08 PM
I pester my friend every time by counting all the cranes while we’re driving by Tempe on the 202. Excellent, one more for the pickin!

Two cranes for Mirabella, one for The Local, and one for Canopy Hilton all in a half mile there is pretty sweet. Would love for one or both of the towers proposed on 7th St. to get going and get a whole gaggle there.

azsunsurfer
Sep 17, 2018, 8:17 PM
Does anyone know if ASU has updated their campus planning/ master plan? The last one that was released publicly I think was in 2011 and I know a lot has changed since then. Wasn't sure if it was a 10/ 20 year plan?

Mr.RE
Sep 18, 2018, 4:10 AM
Two cranes for Mirabella, one for The Local, and one for Canopy Hilton all in a half mile there is pretty sweet. Would love for one or both of the towers proposed on 7th St. to get going and get a whole gaggle there.

Anyone know if the new ISTB-7 or the Novus projects will require a crane of any sort? I didn't think so due to the height of the projects but it would be nice to see even more sprout up around town!

Socalzonie
Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 AM
Anyone know if the new ISTB-7 or the Novus projects will require a crane of any sort? I didn't think so due to the height of the projects but it would be nice to see even more sprout up around town!

I expected the Papago Grand project to be using one by now. Isnt that building under construction supposed to be about 140'?

stutteringpunk
Sep 18, 2018, 10:51 PM
Does anyone know what that big building, with what I presume is a patio, at the south of the Rio 2100 complex is? The one facing Rio Salado. I know Spinatos is building a new restaurant in that area, but I haven't heard or seen anything about what that big structure actually is.

muertecaza
Sep 18, 2018, 11:01 PM
Does anyone know what that big building, with what I presume is a patio, at the south of the Rio 2100 complex is? The one facing Rio Salado. I know Spinatos is building a new restaurant in that area, but I haven't heard or seen anything about what that big structure actually is.

It's a retail building for the 2100 Rio complex. The development review packet is here:

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=54149

Not sure whether or not they have tenants lined up.

ciweiss
Sep 19, 2018, 3:29 AM
I was hoping a Costco would end up somewhere over there. I hate driving all the way to 44th.

asugrad
Sep 19, 2018, 2:16 PM
I was hoping a Costco would end up somewhere over there. I hate driving all the way to 44th.

I know!! that empty lot in Tempe Marketplace between the Harkins and Car Wash was planned to be a Sams Club many years ago. I don't think that is still the plan...Haven't heard anything about that land in forever.

azsunsurfer
Sep 19, 2018, 2:26 PM
I know!! that empty lot in Tempe Marketplace between the Harkins and Car Wash was planned to be a Sams Club many years ago. I don't think that is still the plan...Haven't heard anything about that land in forever.

I am guessing that Walmart is still holding onto the land. Kind of annoying now that they are closing existing SAM's Clubs across the country. I could potentially see multi-family on that site too eventually.

somethingfast
Sep 19, 2018, 8:53 PM
I edited out that language and abated a flame war but it is not my responsibility to keep you safe at work from the Internet.

If you work for an organization that makes Pat Robertson look like a liberal hippie with their Internet monitoring, you need to take your own precautions.

Okay so I wasn't asking you to police but deferring to your judgement on the ask. I don't believe in censorship per se but I'm making an appeal to all (and deferring, again, to you as moderator) for reasonable decorum. F word is available in just about every facet of culture now so just seems reasonable that useless vulgarity not be a part of skyscraper discussion. Maybe it's just me. And I work for an ULTRA liberal company and that's actually the problem...I find (almost universally without exception) that HR departments at all large companies are as hypocritcal as they come...just like a lot of ultra-conservatives. Thanks for listening and not banning me for a week hopefully for a pretty mild suggestion...

muertecaza
Sep 20, 2018, 5:28 PM
Coverage of the Gilbane student housing project at Apache/Terrace. Apparently called "Alor." They look to be close to finished with the demo of the existing structures when I went by this morning. The new rendering looks nice.

http://rebusinessonline.com/gilbane-announces-two-new-student-housing-developments-in-arizona-oregon/

TEMPE, ARIZ., AND CORVALLIS, ORE. — Providence, R.I.-based Gilbane Development Co. has announced the launch of two new developments in Arizona and Oregon as part of five recently announced projects across the United States...

In Tempe, Ariz., Gilbane is developing Alor, a three-building, purpose-built student housing and market-rate/workforce housing property. Situated 1,000 feet from Arizona State University’s Tempe campus, the property will feature 946 student beds and 64 units of market-rate/workforce apartments, as well as 12,000 square feet of retail space and a structured parking garage. On-site amenities will include a rooftop swimming pool; courtyard swimming pool; 25,000-square-foot rooftop amenity deck and sky lounge; 6,000-square-foot open-air fitness center with cardio, full weights and a fitness/yoga center; outdoor courtyards with fire pits and cabanas; spa; central clubhouse; 24-hour study lounges; game rooms; and a computer lab...

http://rebusinessonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Gilbane-Tempe-AZ.jpg

azsunsurfer
Sep 20, 2018, 7:00 PM
Coverage of the Gilbane student housing project at Apache/Terrace. Apparently called "Alor." They look to be close to finished with the demo of the existing structures when I went by this morning. The new rendering looks nice.

http://rebusinessonline.com/gilbane-announces-two-new-student-housing-developments-in-arizona-oregon/



http://rebusinessonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Gilbane-Tempe-AZ.jpg

Wow that new rendering sure is "Alor"-ing!

With Park Place ramping up soon that's going to be a nice area full of retail soon!

ASUSunDevil
Sep 21, 2018, 6:58 PM
http://azbex.com/novus-innovation-corridor-phase-i-to-begin/

Mr.RE
Sep 22, 2018, 6:26 AM
Revised 100 Mill Submittal. They increased the amount of hotel rooms and office square feet. Looks like we are going to see this move forward sooner than later after all!

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=31783

PHXFlyer11
Sep 22, 2018, 1:16 PM
Revised 100 Mill Submittal. They increased the amount of hotel rooms and office square feet. Looks like we are going to see this move forward sooner than later after all!

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=31783

That intersection is so cursed, I’ll believe it when I see it. How many years have we been waiting for this and the proposed Hayden flour Mill hotel? If they can’t get going during this economy I fear they will never happen.

xymox
Sep 22, 2018, 6:10 PM
Revised 100 Mill Submittal. They increased the amount of hotel rooms and office square feet. Looks like we are going to see this move forward sooner than later after all!

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=31783
Are we looking at the same document? The one I read reduced the overall rooms and lowered the max height from 257’ to 190’. It states this will now be two 15 story buildings instead of the 25 story buildings that were part of the prior proposal.

Don’t get me wrong - 190ft there will be the tallest in the immediate area - but this project is shrinking in size. There is a high demand for office space in Tempe so I could see this moving forward. But seems like we’ll wind up with an 8 story building by the time this ever gets built...

combusean
Sep 23, 2018, 4:08 AM
The above document implies the previous project was too tall for the airport. It's 30 ft shorter than what Phoenix requested, which is enough to squeeze a tower crane in the airspace above without anyone complaining.

Tempe needs to get their shit together and deny projects that are going to cause problems with the airport.