HOUSTON | Development Thread II

[Trae]

^^ Nothing happened.

[Von]

why? bc of the weather?? mmm I don't like that

[Cory]

I thought Houston Pavilions was going to break ground today? What happened?

Remember.....projects like this never happen. ;)

[Xeelee]

Remember.....projects like this never happen. ;)
Truer words have never been spoken.

[Xeelee]

Truer words have never been spoken.
I dont like your lack of enthusiasm.

[Von]

omg is that wat it took to kill this thread???

[kardon]

omg is that wat it took to kill this thread???

along with the fact that there just isn't much going on in houston. where are the highrise condos?

[Cory]

Here are some new renderings for the new Intermodal terminal north of downtown bordering the Hardy Rail Yard (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2287358&postcount=16) development. Architect is Ehrenkrantz Eckstut & Kuhn.

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3543/axd5.jpg

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2432/aabw3.jpg

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/206/aa2wr8.jpg

[Shasta]

That looks nice. I love the glass.

Here's another project just announced;

The Sterling at Memorial Villages
27 floors
166 residences offering senior living
prices start at $400,000
located at 1395 South Voss Road between Woodway and San Felipe

I am guessing the strip mall that used to house the Mr Gattis/Michael's Craft Store/Antone's Po-Boys is coming down to make room for this?

http://www.thesterlingseniorcondo.com/memorialvillage/images/photo_rendering.jpg

[JManc]

wow!

[westsider]

Odd looking building.

[Xeelee]

Anyone know if the sacred heart cathedral will get its campanile? I drive by there all the time and I dont see it... :wtf:

[Cory]

Anyone know if the sacred heart cathedral will get its campanile? I drive by there all the time and I dont see it... :wtf:

According to HAIF, it will be, but after completion of the main cathedral, maybe even years after. The church is suppose to be raising money for it.

[vjhe]

Wow, I have to say the Intermodal looks nice. As it currently stands in the renderings, it doesn't look like METRO made "how cheap we can get it" the only priority. I actually like the design.

I also love the glass in both the Intermodal and the new Sterling proposal. I've been waiting on the day when Houston aggressively steps away from the beige stone trend that has plagued us for what seems far too long and longer than other cities. Now if we could just get away from the dreaded box format and add a couple of odd shapes to some of our new buildings.

[texasboy]

The intermodal definitely looks like more than I expected.

[Xeelee]

According to HAIF, it will be, but after completion of the main cathedral, maybe even years after. The church is suppose to be raising money for it.
Translation: "No"


Thanks for the info. :) Wish it would have gone up. :(

[TexasBoi]

along with the fact that there just isn't much going on in houston. where are the highrise condos?

Highrise condos are not the only sign that tells us there is something going on in a city. There is alot going on on in Houston.

[Double L]

Wow, we really think the Houston Pavillions is dead?

[Houston Proud]

I really do think the Houston Pavilions is dead. They keep on back dating it, making changes, now it's no residental for the project only offices, retail, and eatery.

Anybody know is the Pavilions still a go, and when they plan on breaking ground?

[Xeelee]

I really do think the Houston Pavilions is dead. They keep on back dating it, making changes, now it's no residental for the project only offices, retail, and eatery.

Anybody know is the Pavilions still a go, and when they plan on breaking ground?
This goes the way of most other projects in Houston. Typical.

[Great_Hizzy]

Why have a compilations thread if 90% of the posters post without paying any attention to past details?

Jesus Cristo!

[c4smok]

Cranes going up on the 2727 Kirby Condo =)
http://img148.echo.cx/img148/9817/houkirbycondo9tw.jpg

[JManc]

you're f'ing kidding me! the pavilions thingie is dead? :( :(

[c4smok]

its not dead... but it will be redesigned..

[Great_Hizzy]

LMAO!

See what I mean?

[Xeelee]

typical

[Cory]

LMAO!

See what I mean?

:D

[Xeelee]

surely there must be something we can do.

[JManc]

have your people talk to my people

[guess]

What is this? In the galleria area behind the new hotel and 3000 sage
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5508/onedj4.jpg


Camden City Centre
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/2435/twold6.jpg

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/4776/threevp7.jpg

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/183/fourxl2.jpg

the edge
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6994/edge1qt4.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8242/edge2px1.jpg

apartments going up on west dallas. sign says City Vista. something is also happening on the block across the street
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2536/dallasgq2.jpg

[Great_Hizzy]

This reminds me that I saw some crews on the grounds of the former Sears site on Montrose at Allen Parkway. Can't confirm that they were actually doing anything but the crew and equipment were there (a drill and a couple of trucks). Maybe they were merely doing work on the underground piping or maybe nothing at all.

Any scoops?

[Cory]

This reminds me that I saw some crews on the grounds of the former Sears site on Montrose at Allen Parkway. Can't confirm that they were actually doing anything but the crew and equipment were there (a drill and a couple of trucks). Maybe they were merely doing work on the underground piping or maybe nothing at all.

Any scoops?

A new Ismali center is going up I believe.

That first photo guess might be the new 15 floor Courtyard by Marriott. Thanks for the updates.

[Shasta]

I am thinking that hotel in the Galleria area going up might be a new 15 story Marriott Courtyard. There's a mention of a proposal for it in the old thread (I think) and it was being designed by the same firm that just built the nearby 14 story hotel (Homewood Suites?)...

[Xeelee]

A new Ismali center is going up I believe.

That first photo guess might be the new 15 floor Courtyard by Marriott. Thanks for the updates.

What is this ismali center?

[Bailey]

Any news on the Pavilions?

[Xeelee]

Any news on the Pavilions?
Just the usual. Delayed. Ugh.

[Von]

ugh Discovery Green is making its way though so i guess that's atleast something...

[rdavis4559]

Discovery green has actually been coming along at a pretty nice pace. I get to watch the progress every day from my office window

[Von]

which building do u work??/\/\/\/\

[rdavis4559]

two houston center

[Xeelee]

two houston center
Take a camera to work. :) Take some pics for us. :):tup:

[rdavis4559]

Here is discovery green so far. I realize the pics aren't very good but I only had my camera phone with me. I'll bring my camera to work tomorrow and take some clearer pics.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/discoverygreen01.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/discoverygreen02.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/discoverygreen03.jpg

[rdavis4559]

and heres the progress on the memorial hermann building at I-10 and the beltway as of 10/29
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/issaaa/PIC_0198.jpg
and what it will look like when completed
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/1397/aa2ve2.jpg

[Von]

nice thanks for the pics :) now if we can see some of that on the parking lots where the Pavillions are suppose to be and i'm happy...
memorial herman building looks like a casino

[rdavis4559]

yah it does look more like it belongs in vegas. heres the pavilion shots you wanted:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/pavilionsurfacelots01.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/pavilionsurfacelots02.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/pavilionsurfacelots03.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/pavilionsurfacelotsdiagram.jpg

and today i took pics with my 7.2 mp camera instead of my camera phone of discovery green and the site across from it where the residential tower is proposed. ill upload them either tonight or tomorrow morning

[rdavis4559]

heres the new building in the medical center just completed... i dont know if it is being occupied yet
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/01.jpg
heres a view of discovery green
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/02.jpg
you can see where the residential tower is going to be
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/03.jpg
im not sure whats going to be in this corner
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/04.jpg
I guess that pond is going to be pretty deep?
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/05.jpg

[Cory]

Seems like a shallow hole for a garage. I am assuming it will be deeper. Thanks for the pics.

[Cory]

Here is a shot I took today of the Mosaic.

http://static.flickr.com/106/316783942_f9fad993f3_b.jpg

[rdavis4559]

theres a 15+ story building going up on the east side of 290 a few minutes before you hit 610,,, anyone know what that is?

[Xeelee]

Not sure... Thanks for the pics. :) :)

[JManc]

theres a 15+ story building going up on the east side of 290 a few minutes before you hit 610,,, anyone know what that is?

fbi building

[Xeelee]

fbi building

Really? :cool:

[Xeelee]

Here is a shot I took today of the Mosaic.

http://static.flickr.com/106/316783942_f9fad993f3_b.jpg

You must wurk in a pretty tall building... :sly:

[latennisguy]

which building is this? i took it driving north on 288, close to med. center

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/samceb/PHOT0056.jpg

[vjhe]

^

That is the Mosaic as well.

[Cory]

You must wurk in a pretty tall building... :sly:

It's from the wells Fargo in DT.

[texasboy]

It's from the wells Fargo in DT.

I actually thought that was from a plane. Almeda is not that visable from downtown. Is it just me or those are not twins going up? I can't tell from the angles. If not, when is the second building going u/c?

[Great_Hizzy]

That's a very good shot, WG. You've got a helluva zoom-lens, though.

Re: The new FBI building...

I see some other development going on in that area. They've already built several dozen new homes in the area and it looks like they're about to build maybe some apartments no the empty lots surrounding the Pinemont Park & Ride lot.

[Xeelee]

Anyone have pics of the new FBI building?

[Cory]

Anyone have pics of the new FBI building?

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5856/ahi5.jpg

Hardly 15 floors though.

[rdavis4559]

that seems smaller than what i saw. anything else being built in that area?

[Boris]

Here are a couple of pictures I took a while back of the new FBI building.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/issaaa/PIC_0308-1.jpg


http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/issaaa/PIC_0307-1.jpg


http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/issaaa/PIC_0306-1.jpg

[rdavis4559]

ah yes thats it. i guess i just remembered it being bigger

[Cory]

Yay. A few drawings for the House of Blues site for the HP in DT. Notice no tower though.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/293/asu0.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2742/aawt5.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/955/aa2ci6.jpg

Interior music hall
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7155/aa3cr1.jpg

[Xeelee]

Yay. A few drawings for the House of Blues site for the HP in DT. Notice no tower though.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/293/asu0.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2742/aawt5.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/955/aa2ci6.jpg

Interior music hall
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7155/aa3cr1.jpg

I think I can see the new FBI building where the garage where I work. Here I am thinking the house of blues was just another chain restaurant with gimmicks hanging on the walls like... hard rock cafe or the like.

[Bailey]

Can anyone tell me where the Mosiac and the new FBI building are going to be located?

[Shasta]

My Chemical Romance is playing the House of Blues! Nice choice by Gensler Architects!

The Mosaic towers are rising on the eastern border of Hermann Park between downtown and the Texas Medical Center. Just east of the Museum District.

The FBI Tower is going up along Highway 290 just outside the Loop in Northwest Houston.

[Cory]

Local Developer Begins 236-Unit Phase I

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/4570/agc0.jpg

HOUSTON-Following receipt of a $26 million construction/permanent loan, local developer Long Reach Associates Ltd., operating under the name Dunlavy Development Phase I LLC, launched construction on the first phase of its Fairmont Museum District. The 236-unit first phase is anticipated for completion in late 2007 or early 2008.

The project is situated on 2.7 acres at 4310 Dunlavy St. and Live Oak Capital Ltd. Production officer Jim Kirkpatrick tells GlobeSt.com that decision on a second phase will take place once plans are firmer for the Houston's Metro rail line. "Depending on what Metro does, there may be a retail component in the second phase, along with residential," says Kirkpatrick, who helped obtain $26 million in financing for the project's first phase.

In the meantime, he continues, the first phase is an ideal area for high-density residential housing, as it sits at the corner of Richmond Avenue and Dunlavy. "They have a property that is literally five minutes from the Medical Center, five minutes from downtown, five minutes from Greenwood Plaza, and a couple more minutes after that gets you to the Galleria," he says.
The location and developer reputation were two reasons why obtaining financing wasn't too much of a hardship, he says. Live Oak Capital correspondent lender Guardian Life Insurance Co. of America in New York provided the construction-to-perm loan because "they brought the best combination of proceeds and interest rate," Kirkpatrick notes.

The loan itself is a 24-month construction loan rolling into 20-year permanent financing with a split amortization of 25 years for the first 10 years and 20 years for the last 10 years. The fixed interest rate is 137 basis points over 10-year Treasury notes.

Local architect Steinberg Design Collaborative LLP designed Fairmont Museum District's first phase, while Davis Brothers Construction Ltd., also in Houston, is the general contractor. Long Reach Associates will handle leasing and management.

http://www.globest.com/news/802_802/houston/151420-1.html

[JManc]

^ must be where the old HCCS/HISD building was on the corner of dunlavy and richmond.


also, why is this thread so dead? surely we have quite a bit of stuff going on. yeah? no?

as for the pavillions, all talk, i wanna see bulldozers downtown.

[Xeelee]

^ must be where the old HCCS/HISD building was on the corner of dunlavy and richmond.


also, why is this thread so dead? surely we have quite a bit of stuff going on. yeah? no?

as for the pavillions, all talk, i wanna see bulldozers downtown.

Houston Pavillions = Shamrock Tower

[JManc]

Houston Pavillions = Shamrock Tower

yes.

[Xeelee]

:werd:

[kazpmk]

I noticed emporis has 2727 Kirby at River Oaks listed as UC. Has foundation work already begun??

[Cory]

I noticed emporis has 2727 Kirby at River Oaks listed as UC. Has foundation work already begun??


the crane is already up.

[texasboy]

How long has the crane been up? Never knew they already started. Any news on the River Oaks mixed use I believe is suppose to be across the street at Westheimer and Kirby?

[Cory]

How long has the crane been up? Never knew they already started. Any news on the River Oaks mixed use I believe is suppose to be across the street at Westheimer and Kirby?


The crane has been up for about a month. As far as across the street, the site is still wrapped up and dirt still sits.

Here is a street level view of the Mosaic that I took yesterday evening.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6498/aku2.jpg

[Shasta]

The high profile lot in the Medical Center at the corner of Main St and University Blvd. will finally be developed by Rice University. Construction began this week on the Collaborative Research Center. Completion date is set for 2009. The building will be 10 stories tall according to the press release although the rendering clearly show a few extra floos. It will house Rice U's bioscience and biotech classrooms and will be operated in conjunction with several TMC institutions. The ground floor will have 10,000 square feet of retail/restaurant space and the entire project will be built according to LEED certification guidelines.

http://collaborativeresearchcenter.org/images/building/Fine_Hub2_ed.jpg

http://collaborativeresearchcenter.org/images/building/Main_01_ed.jpg

The building will be constructed allowing for the possible expansion of another tower on top in the near future as well as an adjacent tower on the same 2.7 acre plot. It will have 3 levels of UNDERGROUND parking. Huray.

[texasboy]

I have not been in this area in a while, so from the rendering, it looks like it will be behind all the buildings on Fannin. Last time I was in Houston earlier this year in the winter, it looked like there was a wall of development developing on that street. It looked like most of it was from BCM. Too bad some of that fascinating architecture will not be facing Main, but it probably would have had too many setbacks away from the street anyway. Overall it looks like a cool project.

[Cory]

Isn't everything west of Fannin outside the TMC's borders?

[Shasta]

This will face Main St. and University Blvd. It is right next to the relatively new Baylor College of Medicine Clinic. Think across University from Rice U's track/soccer complex...

[Great_Hizzy]

I don't like the design myself but it's still impressive to see the momentum and activity in the area.

[NewAtlantisMiami]

Have you guys checked out what's happening in Miami? We've got such a high-rise construction boom going on here that we're going to take 3rd place after New York and Chicago away from you within the next 5 years! The 2007 World Almanac and Book of Facts already shows us with the 3rd longest list of tall buildings after New York and Chicago even with what they left off that is under construction. We have even more tall buildings scheduled to start construction next year. Wait until you see the 2008 World Almanac. There will be at least 10 more buildings added to that list if they get it right! :yes: :tup:

[JManc]

Have you guys checked out what's happening in Miami? We've got such a high-rise construction boom going on here that we're going to take 3rd place after New York and Chicago away from you within the next 5 years! The 2007 World Almanac and Book of Facts already shows us with the 3rd longest list of tall buildings after New York and Chicago even with what they left off that is under construction. We have even more tall buildings scheduled to start construction next year. Wait until you see the 2008 World Almanac. There will be at least 10 more buildings added to that list if they get it right! :yes: :tup:

i wasn't aware we were in a race but i will say this...we have way more corner drug stores than you guys in miami could ever hope for. :frog:

[NewAtlantisMiami]

i wasn't aware we were in a race but i will say this...we have way more corner drug stores than you guys in miami could ever hope for. :frog:

You probably have a lot more other things too. It is unbalanced, uncontrolled growth without the infrastructure keeping pace with it. I'll have a very dynamic skyline to look at in a few years, but quality of life here is definitely on the decline.

[James Bond Agent 007]

Wow, there's some pretty impressive stuff going on here!

[Xeelee]

Hrm... are there any new proposals in the works for Houston?

[JManc]

Hrm... are there any new proposals in the works for Houston?

nothing new beyond what's in this thread that i know of. :shrug:

I'll have a very dynamic skyline to look at in a few years, but quality of life here is definitely on the decline.

...if you listen to tom tancredo but i think it is a great city.

[guess]

Anyone know what is going on opposite Mosaic on almeda?

[Xeelee]

Anyone know what is going on opposite Mosaic on almeda?

another strip center says $10.

[Xeelee]

or rather... $10 says it's another strip centre.

[Trae]

From Globest.Com:

Katrina Factor Disappears; Occupancy Strong
By Amy Wolff Sorter

HOUSTON-During late 2005 and into early 2006, the main news story in the multifamily market involved the so-called "Katrina factor"--hordes of hurricane victims arriving in the city and giving the local apartment complexes a much-needed occupancy boost. A year later, though, most experts agree that the "Katrina factor" is gone from the scene.

"I think one of the things that resulted from Katrina was a false sense of how strong the apartment market was going to continue on," says Craig LaFollette senior vice president in CB Richard Ellis's Houston office. "Everyone thought, including myself, that the Katrina impact would last for two or three years, but it hasn't."

With occupancy jumping from 88% to 94% in late 2005, developers came in to build as well. "We've got a lot of stuff coming down the pike," LaFollette says. "But fortunately, we've had good growth in 2005 and this year, and a good projection next year. That's been helping us stay even."

David Mitchell, principal with Apartment Realty Advisors in Houston, agrees--and adds that overbuilding isn't a concern. Not only will job and population growth take care of extra units in the market, but construction costs and land supply will provide high barriers to entry.

Investments into multifamily properties, which were strong this year, are expected to continue in 2007. LaFollette and Mitchell concur that the market continues to be flush with capital and interest.

"Deals began getting a little harder to close at the end of the year," Mitchell says. "The number of offers sellers received began getting smaller." Still, Houston has made its way to the top of the radar screens of institutional investors. And, he adds, it will continue to hold a place at the top next year.

Leasing, investment and construction activities in most submarkets are strong. LaFollette says Clear Lake is doing well as is League City. Another area to keep an eye on, he says, is the Far West submarket.

Mitchell points out that Fort Bend County is seeing its share of growth too. "Obviously, infill Houston continues to be highly sought after," he says.

[Great_Hizzy]

Courtesy of Shasta on the Texas / South Central thread:

New Houston Residential Tower:

The Sterling Memorial Villages -

http://www.thesterlingseniorcondo.com/memorialvillage/images/photo_rendering.jpg

27-story tower located in West Houston (Voss Road) will be a condo project for seniors and retirees. 166 units starting at about $400,000. The project is expected to be done by 2010.

[Cory]

Courtesy of Shasta on the Texas / South Central thread:

New Houston Residential Tower:

The Sterling Memorial Villages -

http://www.thesterlingseniorcondo.com/memorialvillage/images/photo_rendering.jpg

27-story tower located in West Houston (Voss Road) will be a condo project for seniors and retirees. 166 units starting at about $400,000. The project is expected to be done by 2010.


Why have a compilations thread if 90% of the posters post without paying any attention to past details?

Jesus Cristo!

;)

[Xeelee]

huh?

[Xeelee]

I thought there was more going on.. after goinbg drinking at hte onion creek and bumping into one of my ex-gfs ithought id check this thread out.,

[Cory]

I hope Hizzy knew that was a joke. Anyway, here are some shots I took of the new Camden going up in Midtown/Fourth Ward. The area is actually decent. The walk from the tin can Urban Lofts to the retail at Post Midtown actually looks like it will be enjoyable. Don't forget about the Edge slowly going up next door.

Camden City Centre rendering
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9346/akc4.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9749/aafo9.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7720/aa2ih3.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2821/aa3ub5.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8889/aa4xt0.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4388/aa5sk7.jpg

[Great_Hizzy]

LOL @ WG

And that's a very good rendering in that first pic. Really gives the project panache, IMO.

[texasboy]

Not a tall structure but pretty tall for those narrow streets. Firefighters would have a hell of a time. Love the fog. By the way, I do not think I have ever heard of this project and looks like it will be done soon.

[Major AWACS]

Stayed near the Camden project for a few days. It is coming along nicely as is some other 4th ward and midtown fill in.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, Actions speak louder than bumperstickers

[Xeelee]

nice pics. :)