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CALMSP
Apr 8, 2008, 9:43 PM
does anyone else have any more info regarding this "America Plaza"???? I bought a townhome just down navigation, and have not heard of this.

Xeelee
Apr 9, 2008, 3:17 PM
does anyone else have any more info regarding this "America Plaza"???? I bought a townhome just down navigation, and have not heard of this.

It looks like a redo of Mercado del Sol. Looks like they're going to clean it up alot.

rdavis4559
Apr 9, 2008, 6:33 PM
This is all I could find about the Americas thing:

After three years of struggling to make his east-side investment flourish, Alan Atkinson of the TransAmerica Group has signed a deal to sell one of the main towers that make up The Americas -- the old El Mercado del Sol complex.

Hoping to capitalize on the new economy, a subsidiary of New York-based Morgan Stanley Real Estate Funds is under contract to purchase the 200,000-square-foot-concrete building, develop an additional 50,000 square feet, and turn the once-neglected building into a "carrier hotel."

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2000/06/12/story1.html

rdavis4559
Apr 10, 2008, 8:05 AM
Agency calls for rejection of Galveston Island project

GALVESTON — A permit request for the largest development ever proposed on Galveston Island should be rejected because it fails to fully consider damage to wildlife, wetlands and coastal prairies, according to a recommendation by a state agency.

In a letter obtained by the Houston Chronicle through a public information request, the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department recommends that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers reject an application by the Marquette Cos. to develop 1,154 acres.

The project, known as the Preserve at West Beach, proposes nearly 4,000 dwellings, two 15-story beach hotels, a marina and possibly a golf course to be built as market conditions allow.

Spanning an undeveloped area on the island's west end from West Galveston Bay to the Gulf of Mexico, the project also includes a 361-acre nature preserve.

The Galveston City Council approved the project last year, subject to clearance by the Corps of Engineers, despite widespread public opposition from environmentalists and others who said it would destroy wildlife habitat and wetlands. The notoriety of the project has made it an issue in the May 10 City Council election.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5688515.html

photoLith
Apr 11, 2008, 2:45 AM
Man, I hope that Galveston development goes under, I am really hating how that end of the island is turning out. It used to be so beautiful and full of wildlife, not its just turning into some crappy urban sprawl suburb looking thing. I wish someone would step in and preserve that land from development. Dont get me wrong, Im all for development, high rises and density, but I hate seeing it spread like a disease across the land. It needs to stay in downtown areas and not destroy the last vestiges of pristine land in Houston.

rdavis4559
Apr 12, 2008, 8:15 AM
Soaring costs of materials delay city projects
Public, private sectors suffering from rapid hikes

Rising prices for steel, concrete and oil are swelling the city's capital improvement budget, forcing the delay of dozens of projects, city officials said Friday.

"Steel and cement are crazy," said James Tillman IV, director of the city's Capital Improvement Program. "In previous CIPs and previous years we could build a pretty nice fire station for $3 million. Now, we're having trouble building one for less than $5 million."

Tillman said there are many reasons for construction delays and cost increases, including unforeseen problems that appear mid-project or changes in codes and laws. But material construction costs seem to be a prevalent problem challenging both the private and public sectors nationwide.

Rebar prices have risen from $700 per ton to $1,000 in four months, said Ken Simonson, chief economist for the Associated General Contractors of America, a construction trade group. Diesel prices are rising faster than gasoline prices, he added, forcing governments to pay more to operate dump trucks, concrete mixers and cranes.

On Wednesday, the City Council could adopt a new five-year $4.43 billion capital improvement plan.

Despite the construction challenges, the city is working to keep the capital planning process running smoothly. A study of 245 projects that were carried over from last year's CIP shows more than two-thirds remain on schedule. But 44 percent of the projects increased in costs, while almost 19 percent dropped. The cumulative effect was a 7 percent increase worth $91 million, according to Webb Mitchell, the city's CIP manager.

Among the projects in the proposed five-year plan:

•$12 million for utility and street upgrades on the east side of downtown for a "new multipurpose sport and entertainment venue."
•$125 million to replace bridges along Sims and Brays bayous.
•$34 million for a new police radio system.
•$10 million to renovate the Julia Ideson Library.
•$10 million to restore the Gregory School as an African-American archives and cultural center.
More than 60 percent of the capital spending will occur within so-called enterprise funds involving airport, convention and entertainment facilities, water and wastewater. Those funds operate separately from the city's general fund.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5695122.html

Von
Apr 15, 2008, 12:53 AM
hey guys so I had to go to work this saturday and I saw that they were taking down some of the cranes in the Pavillions... so I wasted no time to take some pictures of that... but one I have a crappy phone with crappy cam and two I was late for work so I couldn't really stop, I was taking pics as I walked:Phttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Geebuzz102/f637b175589b.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Geebuzz102/f8a1af45e0e1.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Geebuzz102/d8b8b20b5e28.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Geebuzz102/c1c86a51b9b8.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Geebuzz102/252db269ac23.jpgand as you can see on this pictures...they're already putting up some glass on the bridge!
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g263/Geebuzz102/08ded63d2f65.jpg

Great_Hizzy
Apr 15, 2008, 7:52 PM
Yep. Now it's time for the claddings and exterior touches.

rdavis4559
Apr 15, 2008, 10:04 PM
Finalists selected for Dynamo stadium design
Houston Business Journal - by Greg Barr

Interviews were under way Tuesday with five finalists vying to design the proposed downtown soccer stadium that would be home to the Houston Dynamo.

A spokeswoman for Colorado-based ICON Venue Group, the developer in charge of the project, told the Houston Business Journal that the finalists include two local architectural firms that are partnering with national firms on their bids.

The Major League Soccer team, which currently plays home games at Robertson Stadium, is close to working out a deal with the City of Houston which is close to finalizing the acquisition of a chunk of prime acreage near Minute Maid Park for the $80 million stadium, which could open as early as 2010.

The Dynamo wants to have an architect in hand as it continues to negotiate the stadium financing package in which the club and the City would share the cost of the project, according to team President Oliver Luck.

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2008/04/14/daily19.html?ana=from_rss

rdavis4559
Apr 16, 2008, 1:38 PM
From HAIF this morning:
Katy prairie someday may be an angler's paradise
Commissioner must find money to excavate five Astrodomes of dirt.

Out on prairie as flat as a polished dining room table, where he has no river or even rivulet to dam, Commissioner Steve Radack intends to dig a hole and build a 500-acre lake that will teem with sportfish and lure anglers from afar.

Radack has defied nature before — his Precinct 3 is building a nearly 50-foot-high soap box derby hill in equally flat Hockley. But the proposed lake dwarfs the soap box derby in scope and cost, the way a trophy bass does a minnow.

http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/index.php?showtopic=15670

Also, here are some pics from this morning:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00372.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00373.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00375.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00376.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00377.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00378.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00379.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00380.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00381.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/rdavis4559/IMG00383.jpg

Great_Hizzy
Apr 16, 2008, 1:52 PM
My plan was to pull out my new camera this afternoon and take some shots of the progress at Houston Pavillions and Main Place but I was in a rush and left it sitting on the kitchen counter. :(

Maybe later this week, given the fabulous weather.

Xeelee
Apr 16, 2008, 1:56 PM
Looks like Radack is at it again.

Xeelee
Apr 16, 2008, 2:55 PM
From HAIF this morning:
Katy prairie someday may be an angler's paradise
Commissioner must find money to excavate five Astrodomes of dirt.

Out on prairie as flat as a polished dining room table, where he has no river or even rivulet to dam, Commissioner Steve Radack intends to dig a hole and build a 500-acre lake that will teem with sportfish and lure anglers from afar.

Radack has defied nature before — his Precinct 3 is building a nearly 50-foot-high soap box derby hill in equally flat Hockley. But the proposed lake dwarfs the soap box derby in scope and cost, the way a trophy bass does a minnow.

http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/index.php?showtopic=15670


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/xeelee/SteveCradack.jpg

With all the lakes in Texas and this joker wants to build a lake in Katy. Let him pay for it then.

Great_Hizzy
Apr 16, 2008, 8:24 PM
I wonder what he's getting out of it. More incentive to push the time table on the NW section of the Grand Parkway, which may bring development towards his own financial interests?

Or is he really that concerned about nature? Hmm...

toxteth o'grady
Apr 21, 2008, 1:34 AM
My HouBiz, which is always a week late getting to me, says KBR is building an 8-building, 900,000 sf campus in the Katy Freeway corridor. It's going to be all low-rises, though. Pity - it could have been 40 stories if they'd gone vertical...:cheers:

Complex01
Apr 21, 2008, 1:44 AM
Discovery Green was super packed today. Lots of people all over the place. It was great to see the activity...

:yes:

Trae
Apr 21, 2008, 2:51 AM
My HouBiz, which is always a week late getting to me, says KBR is building an 8-building, 900,000 sf campus in the Katy Freeway corridor. It's going to be all low-rises, though. Pity - it could have been 40 stories if they'd gone vertical...:cheers:

Yeah I read that. Katy is starting to form its own nice little skyline. The section of Katy Freeway from around Gessner to Grand Parkway is seeing new lowrises and midrises going up.

Great_Hizzy
Apr 21, 2008, 3:46 AM
It's having quite the affect on traffic, however--and I mean in addition to construction on the freeway itself. Still... there are miles of construction cranes along the corridor with obviously more to come.

Trae
Apr 21, 2008, 1:20 PM
Yeah, traffic is both ways on the Katy nowadays.

CALMSP
Apr 21, 2008, 1:31 PM
would be nice to follow the look of DXB with the highrises lined up right along the freeway!!!

Xeelee
Apr 21, 2008, 1:40 PM
Traffic out there is horrendous. !!

latennisguy
Apr 22, 2008, 2:18 AM
from a couple days ago (forgot to post them)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/samceb/PHOT0024.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/samceb/PHOT0023.jpg

Xeelee
Apr 22, 2008, 1:48 PM
would be nice to follow the look of DXB with the highrises lined up right along the freeway!!!

DXB = Wilshire in LA ?

Complex01
Apr 23, 2008, 3:41 PM
Hello people. I talked to a rep for the Discovery Tower. We now have a height for the tower...

482 feet...

Not bad, it will be taller then 5 Houston Center, and just a bit shy of One Park Place. Still a good height for the area...

:yes:

Xeelee
Apr 23, 2008, 3:47 PM
This is good news. :)

JManc
Apr 23, 2008, 11:21 PM
that part of downtown is shaping up.

KevinFromTexas
Apr 24, 2008, 12:19 AM
Not bad. That's about what I had thought it would be. I really like the design. At that height, I think that makes it the tallest built in downtown since 1000 Main in 2003 (518 feet).

Trae
Apr 24, 2008, 12:33 AM
^^Actually, MainPlace is 630 feet.

KevinFromTexas
Apr 24, 2008, 3:12 AM
I knew that. I forgot about it for some odd reason, and it's actually my favorite of all the new towers. :koko:

Great_Hizzy
Apr 24, 2008, 4:17 AM
Flick my Bic, baby!

;)

Complex01
Apr 24, 2008, 6:58 PM
LOL, that is funny...

:haha:

Cory
Apr 25, 2008, 6:14 AM
that part of downtown is shaping up.

Anyone remember this post a few years ago on HAIF: ;)

what's wrong with market square? i agree, that DT park [Discovey Green] is way overblown.

Xeelee
Apr 25, 2008, 2:39 PM
Anyone remember this post a few years ago on HAIF: ;)

lol

toxteth o'grady
Apr 26, 2008, 1:48 AM
Has anybody been watching the city compilations page over the past month? Houston and Dallas have basically been playing up-the-ante; first the DFW building count was boosted from 120 to 290 by the addition of a number of 10-story buildings that hadn't been in the inventory before, then Houston's inventory was boosted to 310. Now I see Dallas is up to 320 and Houston's up to 340.

Incidentally, there are 26 buildings listed as under construction in Houston, but three on the list are duplicates. I expect a correction will be made shortly...

JManc
Apr 26, 2008, 2:10 AM
Anyone remember this post a few years ago on HAIF: ;)

my original HAIF comment still stands; at the time, the hype about discovery green was overblown...liking it to the next millennium park in chicago or central park in manhattan. the jury is still out, IMO, as to how the park will turn out but the development around that area of downtown is promising.

rdavis4559
Apr 26, 2008, 8:04 AM
my original HAIF comment still stands; at the time, the hype about discovery green was overblown...liking it to the next millennium park in chicago or central park in manhattan. the jury is still out, IMO, as to how the park will turn out but the development around that area of downtown is promising.

It is a nice park but I agree, at least in terms of acreage the park is smaller than Millenium Park by a decent measure and Central Park by far, with much less in terms of facilities.

Cory
Apr 27, 2008, 6:51 AM
I do not think this has been posted before but here is a different rendering, although it should be no surprises as far as the design, of Discovery Tower. Notice the One Park Place reflection.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8812/016gy6.jpg

rdavis4559
Apr 27, 2008, 8:27 AM
I've seen that render somewhere before, I think on this thread.

Complex01
Apr 27, 2008, 4:45 PM
I have yet to see that rendering. Discovery Tower looks much more detailed. I like it more and more every day. It looks awesome...

:wizard:

rdavis4559
Apr 27, 2008, 8:47 PM
The inlets up at the top look like a deck but I think that is where the wind turbines are to be installed.

Wattleigh
Apr 27, 2008, 10:33 PM
I do not think this has been posted before but here is a different rendering, although it should be no surprises as far as the design, of Discovery Tower. Notice the One Park Place reflection.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8812/016gy6.jpg

It does seem a bit different from the rendering that's been running in the print ads, seen from the same angle. I'm thinking it may be an older one since the earlier renderings showed the windfarm not as tall as it appears now. There's also an indentation on the top of the southeast side that appeared in previous ones but has been excluded lately.

I've posted this version in a few threads in the past. This one is from the print ads that run most weeks in the Business Journal.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w208/houtosme/DTadrendering.jpg

rdavis4559
Apr 27, 2008, 10:39 PM
I recommend all of you guys read these pdfs on the DT Houston Office market from houstondowntown.com

http://www.houstondowntown.com/Home/Business/DoingBusiness/Office/OfficeMarketReports/

Von
Apr 29, 2008, 5:51 AM
what are those two buildings' shadows behind Discovery Tower???

Xeelee
Apr 29, 2008, 2:11 PM
what are those two buildings' shadows behind Discovery Tower???

Chances are they likely added those towers to "fill in" the background a little. I would say they do not exist.

Wattleigh
Apr 29, 2008, 11:59 PM
Chances are they likely added those towers to "fill in" the background a little. I would say they do not exist.

Those would be the sites to be filled by Discovery Tower's parking garage (where the DT construction trailers/parking lot currently exist) & the La Quinta hotel.

Funny that a number of the pre-existing buildings that should be in the background aren't.

Xeelee
Apr 30, 2008, 2:50 PM
Those would be the sites to be filled by Discovery Tower's parking garage (where the DT construction trailers/parking lot currently exist) & the La Quinta hotel.

Funny that a number of the pre-existing buildings that should be in the background aren't.

Those buildings look like they're several blocks away... :happysad: Would they build the parking garage for Discovery Tower that far away?

Complex01
Apr 30, 2008, 3:31 PM
We need something new to come along already. I want to see more...

:yes:

Xeelee
Apr 30, 2008, 4:37 PM
We need something new to come along already. I want to see more...

:yes:

Sorry to say but don't hold your breath... The way things are now it might be wiser to build small. And that means way out. Like... past katy or something.

rdavis4559
Apr 30, 2008, 7:10 PM
The economy may not be at its best right now but Houston's economy and growth prospects are better than most other places in the US. The continually lowering interest rates are great for building too, though I'm not sure how these facts will tie in the the overall lack of liquidity the economy has been suffering.

Wattleigh
Apr 30, 2008, 7:18 PM
Those buildings look like they're several blocks away... :happysad: Would they build the parking garage for Discovery Tower that far away?

They're only two blocks behind the tower. The Parking garage on the closest and the hotel on the one behind that.

Wattleigh
Apr 30, 2008, 10:52 PM
Since the weather should be cooperative this weekend, I'll be out and about doing a project roundup on a bunch of the sites outside of DT (since I saw that Complex01 was gonna tackle that). Here's a short list of the places in mind...

-Memorial Heights/Washington Ave. (Memorial Hills, Legacy at Memorial)
-TMC & Museum District (Various Sites)
-Greenway/UK (2727, West Ave., Belle Meade)
-Memorial/Town & Country (Memorial Hermann Gateway, CityCentre)
-Energy Corridor (Multiple project sites)

I'm sure I'm missing a few. Any others to pitch?

TritonHouston
May 1, 2008, 1:18 AM
Is Houston's boom over or what? :(

TexasBoi
May 1, 2008, 12:55 PM
Is Houston's boom over or what? :(

looks like it's just getting started.

Xeelee
May 1, 2008, 2:11 PM
They're only two blocks behind the tower. The Parking garage on the closest and the hotel on the one behind that.

They usually build a building's parking garage attached to the building itself or somehow physically connected to the building it serves.

Take the on-hold proposal of 6 Houston Center. It has its own parking garage attached to it on the same block. Is there a skybridge/tunnel/peoplemover connecting Discovery Tower with its parking garage 2 blocks away?

This arrangement seems odd to me but then again that's just me... :happysad:

:cheers:

TritonHouston
May 1, 2008, 2:35 PM
looks like it's just getting started.

But it seems like there aren't any new proposals anymore.

rdavis4559
May 1, 2008, 3:15 PM
They usually build a building's parking garage attached to the building itself or somehow physically connected to the building it serves.

Take the on-hold proposal of 6 Houston Center. It has its own parking garage attached to it on the same block. Is there a skybridge/tunnel/peoplemover connecting Discovery Tower with its parking garage 2 blocks away?

This arrangement seems odd to me but then again that's just me... :happysad:

:cheers:

There are a lot of buildings without a corresponding garage that they themselves develop. There is a decent number of surface lots in the area and they may in fact just want to let a private developer build a garage separate from their own construction plans.

Wattleigh
May 1, 2008, 3:51 PM
They usually build a building's parking garage attached to the building itself or somehow physically connected to the building it serves.

Take the on-hold proposal of 6 Houston Center. It has its own parking garage attached to it on the same block. Is there a skybridge/tunnel/peoplemover connecting Discovery Tower with its parking garage 2 blocks away?

This arrangement seems odd to me but then again that's just me... :happysad:

:cheers:

Discovery Tower's garage wouldn't be 2 blocks away. It would be across the street on the Walker/Crawford/Rusk/La Branch Block. That's where the construction trailers and a lot of the smaller equipment for the office building site is at the moment.

As for 6HC, it's not on-hold, from what I've understood. The groundbreaking has been moved to this month.

Complex01
May 1, 2008, 6:42 PM
Since the weather should be cooperative this weekend, I'll be out and about doing a project roundup on a bunch of the sites outside of DT (since I saw that Complex01 was gonna tackle that). Here's a short list of the places in mind...

-Memorial Heights/Washington Ave. (Memorial Hills, Legacy at Memorial)
-TMC & Museum District (Various Sites)
-Greenway/UK (2727, West Ave., Belle Meade)
-Memorial/Town & Country (Memorial Hermann Gateway, CityCentre)
-Energy Corridor (Multiple project sites)

I'm sure I'm missing a few. Any others to pitch?

Nice. I am very much looking forward to getting out this weekend. You might just see me ride by...

:yes:

Xeelee
May 1, 2008, 7:30 PM
Nice. I am very much looking forward to getting out this weekend. You might just see me ride by...

:yes:

Try to wear a shirt this time, eh?:koko:

Complex01
May 1, 2008, 8:39 PM
:previous:

LOL, okay why wouldnt i be wearing a shirt...

Complex01
May 4, 2008, 10:01 PM
Another great day in Houston. Some pics from the projects around DownTown. Enjoy...

One Park Place...

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/pp0508b.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/PP0508.jpg

Discovey Tower...

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/dt0508a.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/dt0508b.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/dt0508c.jpg

The tower will look great as it will start to rise from this view...
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/DT0508.jpg

Main Place...

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/mp0508.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/mp0508b.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/mp0508c.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/am4ever7/mp0508d.jpg

:yes:

JManc
May 5, 2008, 6:07 AM
i haven't been to downtown since they knocked all those buildings down to make way for MP.

KevinFromTexas
May 5, 2008, 7:41 AM
Nice pics, Complex01. One Park Place reminds me a bit of Altavida in Austin, at least at this point. Both are apartment buildings. One Park Place will be almost 100 feet taller though.

Altavida in Austin. Photo taken by priller here on the forum.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2041/2465834453_b090bb95c1_o.jpg

Complex01
May 5, 2008, 1:51 PM
i haven't been to downtown since they knocked all those buildings down to make way for MP.

You should go soon, cause once it starts to rise then it will feel and look very different all over again. Witness today for tomorrow will not be the same...

:yes:

Xeelee
May 5, 2008, 2:04 PM
i haven't been to downtown since they knocked all those buildings down to make way for MP.

Where have you been?


Nice pics of a nice weekend. :)

Boris
May 5, 2008, 8:28 PM
Thx for the update Complex. I also haven't been DT for a few weeks now. Hope to get down in the area for the 2008's art car parade. Hope to get some funky shots.

Wattleigh
May 7, 2008, 1:39 AM
I posted this on HAIF earlier, but I wanted to see if anyone here knew as well...

Was a bit curious about a project that has been discussed in the past in various places regarding Hines' plans for a tower for the 600 Block of Main Street. Since many of us are thinking the Houston City Centre project was a bit of a pipe dream and had little if any info, this one seems a bit more legit. It would, as you might guess, be in the same location... better known to many as the spot the Shamrock Tower debacle occured on.

At any rate, I stumbled across this page (http://www.wylieassociates.com/?sec=projects&sec2=LEED&project=042) with the rendering included, I was wondering if anyone had additional info on it.

It looks like there's 26 or 27 floors above the garage. I'm just ballparking it but maybe 35 floors on this one? It's a bit short for my tastes, but meh. I appreciate the attempt at infill, especially along Main Street.

http://www.wylieassociates.com/images/projects/full/042.jpg

Wattleigh
May 7, 2008, 4:06 AM
:previous:

Well, at least it's a legit project. :)

In the planning stages, but it was confirmed on HAIF. It is a proposal backed by Hines so there's a bit more certainty to this one. Wouldn't hurt if it were taller, but again, that's just one man's opinion ;)

At that size, it can halfway blend in with a few of the older highrises near the historic district, but still make a statement with it's slight height advantage and more modern design.

Plus, it should be yet another tower you'll be able to see rise from Discovery Green!

Xeelee
May 7, 2008, 2:30 PM
Not too bad... could be flashier though, but it's something.

I take it then that the Houston City Centre is... dead?

Cory
May 7, 2008, 5:48 PM
Not too bad... could be flashier though, but it's something.

I take it then that the Houston City Centre is... dead?
It actually looks very similar to City Centre just a lot shorter. I believe everyone on here was expecting atleast an 800 footer. Not a bad design though still. Goes well with the Main Place design and will be exciting to see those two modern towers rising from those historic buildings. Will be a nice contrast.

Texas Tuff
May 7, 2008, 7:13 PM
I hate to hear that City Centre is gone as well but I do at least like the design of the new tower above.

Complex01
May 7, 2008, 7:52 PM
The design is fine, it just should be taller. There is plenty of room for it. Also as other people have said, it would be great to have a residential component to it, not just another tower, even though more office towers is good. Anyhow good to see other stuff out there. Who knows what it will end up being.

Nice find btw...

:cool:

c4smok
May 7, 2008, 8:28 PM
hmm has this been posted?

http://www.zieglercooper.com/images/proj709.jpg

1600 West Loop South

The 500,000 s.f. 20-story building

http://www.zieglercooper.com/projects.asp?indid=42&projid=75

Great_Hizzy
May 7, 2008, 8:30 PM
That's the proposed tower at the corner of Post Oak and the West Loop (southbound), correct?

c4smok
May 7, 2008, 8:33 PM
Hmm well its a bit further down
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1600+West+Loop+South&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=44.204685,98.085938&ie=UTF8&ll=29.751422,-95.455549&spn=0.005943,0.011973&z=17&iwloc=addr

Saddle Man
May 7, 2008, 8:48 PM
City Center was always a fantasy.

Xeelee
May 7, 2008, 9:55 PM
City Center was always a fantasy.

Argh!

Great_Hizzy
May 8, 2008, 2:15 AM
Hmm well its a bit further down
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1600+West+Loop+South&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=44.204685,98.085938&ie=UTF8&ll=29.751422,-95.455549&spn=0.005943,0.011973&z=17&iwloc=addr


Nah, that's about where I meant. We're all on the same page.

Complex01
May 8, 2008, 2:14 PM
http://www.wylieassociates.com/images/projects/full/042.jpg

They took the rendering down. Craziness, just craziness...

:shrug:

Xeelee
May 8, 2008, 3:52 PM
They took the rendering down. Craziness, just craziness...

:shrug:

Relax. I have a copy (I think)... let me check. I usually snag any and all images of any proposals/renderings and such...

Complex01
May 8, 2008, 4:12 PM
They just posted it on Swamplot (http://swamplot.com/the-secret-new-downtown-tower-hidden-on-the-web/2008-05-08/#more-1941). Rendering in all...

rdavis4559
May 8, 2008, 5:14 PM
I don't think this render of Discovery Tower has been posted:

http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/5/5/D/xy_55DC10F3-BB4C-41AA-AD77-3BB82DB751D6__.JPG

http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/Looplink/Profile/Profile.aspx?stid=cbre7&LID=15526007&LL=true

Xeelee
May 8, 2008, 5:26 PM
I don't think this render of Discovery Tower has been posted:

http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/5/5/D/xy_55DC10F3-BB4C-41AA-AD77-3BB82DB751D6__.JPG

http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/Looplink/Profile/Profile.aspx?stid=cbre7&LID=15526007&LL=true

I think it's the same thing... do you see anything different about it?

Wattleigh
May 8, 2008, 7:10 PM
They took the rendering down. Craziness, just craziness...

:shrug:

Luckily, I saved the one on Wylie's site before the page was deleted. Yay for foresight!

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w208/houtosme/HinesNorthTower.jpg

Complex01
May 8, 2008, 7:39 PM
Good for you. Saving that stuff. It helps...

:tup:

Xeelee
May 8, 2008, 7:43 PM
Good for you. Saving that stuff. It helps...

:tup:

Yes. We must not let them get away. Who do they think they are? Taunting us like that... For this they will feel our wrath.

rdavis4559
May 8, 2008, 8:14 PM
I think it's the same thing... do you see anything different about it?

I don't see anything different about it but I never saw it from such a low angle.

c4smok
May 8, 2008, 9:06 PM
http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/images/DTgr12.gif
http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/downtown.htm

looks like this was a vision..

http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/images/DTgr13.gif
http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/images/DTgr11.gif


was posted up on TheHaif.com

http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/images/DT01.gif

*looks old...

TritonHouston
May 8, 2008, 10:41 PM
Page 100!

The last photo is very old. Discovery Green is there now.

Trae
May 8, 2008, 10:45 PM
I don't know. The last pic looks kind of realistic (like it can still happen).

Complex01
May 9, 2008, 2:02 PM
There is still lots of room in downtown to put something like this in. Every time i go downtown i am like, there is a lot, there is a lot, and another lot. I dont think room is an issue, its just getting someone to invest and start something up...


:yes:

Complex01
May 9, 2008, 2:17 PM
On another project they are starting to raise the crane at the Legacy at Memorial & Studemont. I saw it as i drove by this morning. Cant wait to see it up...


:tup:

Xeelee
May 9, 2008, 3:09 PM
I don't see anything different about it but I never saw it from such a low angle.

Ah...:cheers:

Xeelee
May 9, 2008, 3:11 PM
http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/images/DTgr12.gif
http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/downtown.htm

looks like this was a vision..

http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/images/DTgr13.gif
http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/images/DTgr11.gif


was posted up on TheHaif.com

http://www.powersbrown.com/projects/urban/images/DT01.gif

*looks old...



These remind me of the projects involved for the Main Street Corridor Master Plan a few years back.

Double L
May 10, 2008, 4:13 PM
It looks like most of the development is occuring in the areas around The Texas Medical Center and the area around Discovery Green, with another major hub within Uptown.

Very cool.

Complex01
May 13, 2008, 2:50 PM
I was searing the web and we have some updates on Regent Square. (Which i am glad, i really like this project).

Today from Swamplot (http://swamplot.com/going-straight-regent-square-follows-a-new-path/2008-05-13/#more-1979).

"This new drawing provides a sneak peek of the latest plans for Regent Square in North Montrose."

The article also goes on to say that The 2 shadows are the condo towers and the apartments will be 5 and 8 stories in multiple buildings.

I did check their website and it has not been updated. However i pass by the site quite often, no dirt is moving, but hopefully that will change with this new stuff.


http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/regent-sq-axo-close-center.jpg

http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/regent-sq-axo-close-right.jpg

Xeelee
May 13, 2008, 3:03 PM
looks nice.

Saddle Man
May 13, 2008, 7:46 PM
This new plan is not nearly as impressive.

Trae
May 13, 2008, 11:44 PM
Doesn't look that different.

Great_Hizzy
May 14, 2008, 1:04 AM
I don't know if the new design is better but the new rendering doesn't seem to deliver as much of an impact. Still the frontprint and scope of the project are impressive.