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[MeEtc]

There is the project in the old WTCC space but I believe it's in the same size, and presumably acoustic, ballpark as existing venues.

That is more of a TV production studio, 22 Minutes is being filmed there now. Rebecca Cohn is still much bigger.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Many years ago there was a push for a larger performing arts centre in Halifax (I think it might have been called Nova Centre). It's interesting in that, aside from covid, I am not sure the demand has dropped and the city has grown more but a project like that seems to have fallen off the radar. Roy Thompson Hall is an example of this type of venue.

There is the project in the old WTCC space but I believe it's in the same size, and presumably acoustic, ballpark as existing venues.

There was some talk of a performance venue in the WTCC initially, but it sounds like it didn't pan out.

It has perplexed me a little that Halifax hasn't had an additional performance venue somewhere between the size of the Scotiabank Centre (in which the acoustics are really not good) and the Cohn. I thought that the new arts centre proposed for the waterfront was supposed to have a theatre suitable for the symphony to play in, but don't recall if the recent proposals included such a space (haven't read about it in a while).

[eastcoastal]

... I thought that the new arts centre proposed for the waterfront was supposed to have a theatre suitable for the symphony to play in, but don't recall if the recent proposals included such a space ...

I don't think the art gallery includes a performance space of this type.

Cohn is nice acoustically, but there are limits to the types of theatrical performances that can be hosted due to limited wings and no flye towers. I understand that Neptune has these things, but that it's pretty small.

[OldDartmouthMark]

I don't think the art gallery includes a performance space of this type.

Cohn is nice acoustically, but there are limits to the types of theatrical performances that can be hosted due to limited wings and no flye towers. I understand that Neptune has these things, but that it's pretty small.

I believe I was remembering a news blurb introducing the idea of a waterfront arts centre from several years ago - a concert hall/performance venue was part of the concept at the time. It's too bad it didn't make it into the final cut.

I've seen mostly musical acts (and some comedy/variety shows) at the Cohn, and have always been happy with its layout and acoustics - there doesn't seem to be a bad seat in the house. I've also seen some theatre at Neptune and have also been impressed with the layout (not that I'm enough of a theatre buff to be able to discern a good one from a bad one), but yes, it's somewhat small.

There are other good, smaller places to see musical acts in the city, one of the best being the Carleton, in terms of quality of act and service, plus they put quite a lot of effort into the sound system. Being located in a building that was constructed in 1760 gives it a nice ambience, but also seems to have limiting factors in terms of layout, which is a little tight (in non-covid times), but OK.

There are other venues, like the Marquee, that are OK if you like standing in the middle of a group of drunk people for the entire act (in non-covid times...lol), but I'm enjoying this configuration less and less these days. The Casino NS basically uses a room that could just as easily host a convention or wedding reception for its concerts, which is far less than ideal.

Scotiabank Centre will hold concerts in 1/4 or 1/2 of the arena, which is OK, but the acoustics have never been good there - the old joke used to be that the music stopped about 10 minutes after the band finished playing... :haha:

So really, aside from not having a good medium sized music venue (or a good large-sized one, for that matter) between the size of the Cohn and the SC, there are very few really good smaller venues in Halifax as well (IMHO), unless I'm forgetting something. That said, a waterfront facility wouldn't really have the space for a venue of that size, nor would it likely be able to accommodate parking for such an event. However, if I'm reading your comment correctly, it sounds like there is a need for a good medium sized venue for theatre.

Perhaps it's not as much as a factor nowadays, since the music industry changed (when people started getting music for free over the internet vs paying for it in a record/cd shop), as there doesn't seem to be as many musical acts touring to smaller venues, as compared to say, the 1980s, when every week there would be a new upcoming band paying their dues by travelling the country and appearing in venues like the Misty Moon, or some similar small stage to get the word out that they were worth listening to (and buying their albums... lol).

Of course, now being over a year into all of this having gone away seems to make it feel a little more poignant...

[Dmajackson]

Bayers & Young

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[MeEtc]

unless I'm forgetting something.

The only other live theatre venues around are Spatz at Citadel High (780 seat), Light House Studios performance hall (22 Minutes studio in old WTCC)(760 seat/1150 standing), Bella Rose at Halifax West (600 seat), Fountain Hall at Neptune (458 seat), Alderney Landing (285 seat), and Lilian Piercey at Maritime Conservatory (200 seat)

[Dartguard]

The only other live theatre venues around are Spatz at Citadel High (780 seat), Light House Studios performance hall (22 Minutes studio in old WTCC)(760 seat/1150 standing), Bella Rose at Halifax West (600 seat), Fountain Hall at Neptune (458 seat), Alderney Landing (285 seat), and Lilian Piercey at Maritime Conservatory (200 seat)

So by that catalogue of assets Dartmouth Marks comments are more relevant. The City needs a venue that can hold 1500-3000. I too thought there were plans to develop a permanent home for the N.S. Symphony that could be used for other paying acts on the Waterfront. A friend of mine at Lydon Lynch has proposed a large parking facility underneath the old Ralston site to coincide with what ever gets built there. That and Metro park could handle well over 1000 parked cars.

[Hali87]

The Cunard Centre sort of fills the gap between the Cohn and the Scotiabank Centre, for music, although it doesn't have an orchestra pit or anything. I think the capacity is somewhere in the range of 2-5000 (depending on configuration). Not a true concert hall by any means, but the acoustics are better than the Scotiabank Centre (or Forum MPR). There's also the casino, I'm not sure of the capacity.

Live theatre is a bit different from live music and auditorium-type setups are usually optimized for one or the other, but not necessarily both. The Cohn is definitely more music-oriented, Neptune is more theatre-oriented. There's also the Dunn Theatre and Pond Playhouse which are theatre-oriented, although they're both smaller than Neptune (probably about 100 seats each).

[OldDartmouthMark]

The only other live theatre venues around are Spatz at Citadel High (780 seat), Light House Studios performance hall (22 Minutes studio in old WTCC)(760 seat/1150 standing), Bella Rose at Halifax West (600 seat), Fountain Hall at Neptune (458 seat), Alderney Landing (285 seat), and Lilian Piercey at Maritime Conservatory (200 seat)

Thanks for the rundown. I don't recall hearing of many performances (pre-covid times) open to the public in any of those venues except Neptune, though that could just be that I hadn't looked hard enough.

[OldDartmouthMark]

The Cunard Centre sort of fills the gap between the Cohn and the Scotiabank Centre, for music, although it doesn't have an orchestra pit or anything. I think the capacity is somewhere in the range of 2-5000 (depending on configuration). Not a true concert hall by any means, but the acoustics are better than the Scotiabank Centre (or Forum MPR). There's also the casino, I'm not sure of the capacity.

Live theatre is a bit different from live music and auditorium-type setups are usually optimized for one or the other, but not necessarily both. The Cohn is definitely more music-oriented, Neptune is more theatre-oriented. There's also the Dunn Theatre and Pond Playhouse which are theatre-oriented, although they're both smaller than Neptune (probably about 100 seats each).

I've been to the Cunard Centre for several events, but it's not really what I think of for a music venue. To me it's just an open space where a stage can be placed and people can stand around and listen... though I suppose in concept it's not much different than the Marquee, and that is considered a music venue. When I'm thinking of a larger venue, I'm hoping for something with stadium seating and a layout plus acoustics that are optimal for musical performances.

The Casino has been marginally better, as at least they tend to have seating and the stage is raised above floor level for better-than-nothing viewing from the rear half of the venue, but IMHO, you really need stadium seating for it to be considered a 'nice' venue.

[Saul Goode]

Scotiabank Centre will hold concerts in 1/4 or 1/2 of the arena, which is OK, but the acoustics have never been good there - the old joke used to be that the music stopped about 10 minutes after the band finished playing... :haha:
I have to respectfully disagree. That may have been true in its earliest years (a washed-out, echoey Stevie Ray Vaughan show there was one of my greatest disappointments; he and the audience deserved so much better). At least I was able to catch him once before it was too late...

But after baffles were hung from the ceiling the acoustics improved hugely and I’ve seen lots of shows there with no sound complaints whatsoever. It’s not Cohn-quality sound, but arenas are not concert halls and our expectations have to be tempered. As 12,000-seat hockey rinks go, I think its sound is actually very good.

...the 1980s, when every week there would be a new upcoming band paying their dues by travelling the country and appearing in venues like the Misty Moon, or some similar small stage to get the word out that they were worth listening to (and buying their albums... lol).
The loss of large clubs like the Misty Moon (particularly when it was on Kempt) and The Palace, though completely understandable, has left a hole in the inventory of venues. The Moon in those days held over a thousand and attracted many big names, along with the up-and-coming that you mentioned. The Palace wasn’t quite as large, but once it got past the unfortunate disco era that spawned it, it became a really excellent place to hear a rock band - about, oh, a thousand times better than the casino.

The Casino has been marginally better, as at least they tend to have seating and the stage is raised above floor level for better-than-nothing viewing from the rear half of the venue, but IMHO, you really need stadium seating for it to be considered a 'nice' venue.

To my taste, the casino has to be one of the worst music spaces in Halifax. I’ve seen a dozen or more shows there and although I’ve enjoyed the performers, I’ve always left disappointed with both the sound and the layout. The shows could have been so much better in a more appropriate room. As far as music is concerned, I’d characterize the Schooner Room as totally suited to high school dances (not that they actually happen there), but that would be about it.

The City needs a venue that can hold 1500-3000

Yes, definitely, and that’s been true for decades, really.

[OldDartmouthMark]

I have to respectfully disagree. That may have been true in its earliest years (a washed-out, echoey Stevie Ray Vaughan show there was one of my greatest disappointments; he and the audience deserved so much better). At least I was able to catch him once before it was too late...

I went to one of his shows as well - it was great and to this day I appreciate that I had a chance to see him. He did two shows in Halifax, I think - do you remember?

But after baffles were hung from the ceiling the acoustics improved hugely and I’ve seen lots of shows there with no sound complaints whatsoever. It’s not Cohn-quality sound, but arenas are not concert halls and our expectations have to be tempered. As 12,000-seat hockey rinks go, I think its sound is actually very good.

We can agree to disagree on this one. I noticed an improvement in sound after the baffles were hung, but I would never qualify the sound quality in that place as 'good' (however I would never consider myself to be an acoustics expert). Yeah, my 'humourous' anecdote was based on the original configuration but IMHO still applies to some extent.

That said, I still have completely enjoyed every concert I've seen there, but if we're fantasizing about some hypothetical venue that we'll never get, I want Cohn-level acoustics, or better.


The loss of large clubs like the Misty Moon (particularly when it was on Kempt) and The Palace, though completely understandable, has left a hole in the inventory of venues. The Moon in those days held over a thousand and attracted many big names, along with the up-and-coming that you mentioned. The Palace wasn’t quite as large, but once it got past the unfortunate disco era that spawned it, it became a really excellent place to hear a rock band - about, oh, a thousand times better than the casino.

Agree.


To my taste, the casino has to be one of the worst music spaces in Halifax. I’ve seen a dozen or more shows there and although I’ve enjoyed the performers, I’ve always left disappointed with both the sound and the layout. The shows could have been so much better in a more appropriate room. As far as music is concerned, I’d characterize the Schooner Room as totally suited to high school dances (not that they actually happen there), but that would be about it.

That about sums it up, but I still prefer it to a large warehouse setting. As I progress towards the state of old phartness, I less enjoy getting elbowed and having beer spilled on me by drunk people, as tends to happen in a space without assigned seating. But, yeah, the Schooner Room is just an empty room with a stage and some chairs put in place, so... not great. But I guess beggars can't be choosers, or something like that.

[Saul Goode]

I went to one of his shows as well - it was great and to this day I appreciate that I had a chance to see him. He did two shows in Halifax, I think - do you remember?

Hmmm...no, don't recall. I saw him in '88 or '89 (too lazy to look it up, but I'm thinking '89). Stray Cats opened.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Hmmm...no, don't recall. I saw him in '88 or '89 (too lazy to look it up, but I'm thinking '89). Stray Cats opened.

Yeah, that's the show that I went to (I'm thinking 1988 - I will be able to confirm if I ever find the ticket stub that I saved... "somewhere"...lol).

I seem to recall that he was in town during two different concert cycles, but info on the web is sketchy at best.

[Saul Goode]

Yeah, that's the show that I went to (I'm thinking 1988 - I will be able to confirm if I ever find the ticket stub that I saved... "somewhere"...lol).

I seem to recall that he was in town during two different concert cycles, but info on the web is sketchy at best.

Okay, I tracked it down (I knew one of us would just have to...). Mr. Internet says two dates in Halifax:

5 April 1988 - Live Alive tour, with Razorback

9 August 1989 - In Step tour, with Stray Cats

[OldDartmouthMark]

Okay, I tracked it down (I knew one of us would just have to...). Mr. Internet says two dates in Halifax:

5 April 1988 - Live Alive tour, with Razorback

9 August 1989 - In Step tour, with Stray Cats

LOL

Thanks! :)

[Saul Goode]

LOL

Thanks! :)

I'm not feeling particularly live alive today, but at least we're in step on the dates. Now we just have to stay out of the crossfire while we walk the tightrope.

[Dmajackson]

Construction permit was just issued for 36 new residential units at 5512 Sackville / 1598 Barrington which is the Tramway Building. The approved expansion from 2019 appears to be going ahead. The building will be converted from office to residential and two new floors will be added meeting the heritage design requirements. The existing commercial along Barrington will not be affected besides the required secondary egress.

Design Review Committee - Tramway Building (https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default/files/documents/city-hall/boards-committees-commissions/drc190314item912.pdf)

The Star Halifax article (https://www.thestar.com/halifax/2019/03/14/historically-significant-building-in-downtown-halifax-to-get-glass-addition-facelift-residential-conversion.html)

[someone123]

Curious to see how the Tramway Building turns out. I wonder if they will add parging and/or more detailing to the exterior and what has happened so far. I think they stripped the brick off the storefront level. And then there are the missing elements along the roofline on the Barrington side. It could be a handsome looking building, and is interesting from an architectural history perspective as a kind of missing link between the styles of older masonry buildings and newer concrete buildings.

The inventory of buildings in bad shape along Barrington is shrinking. I guess the Pacific Building might be the only large-ish one left on that list.

[OldDartmouthMark]

I'm wondering what this means exactly, in terms of restoring the exterior to its original appearance:

Partial restoration of the existing façade, including repairing the concrete surfaces and ground level rustication

From the description of the original building:

The building structural system is constructed entirely of reinforced concrete,
the first of its type on Barrington Street. The exterior was covered with a
cement parging, which in many areas, particularly the Barrington St.
elevation, separated from the substructure and has been removed. Large
areas of parging on the Sackville elevation are also in need of removal. The
original drawings for the building show rusticated detailing on the ground
level of the façade, but this is now covered with an unsympathetic brick
masonry veneer.

Are they planning to reinstate the cement parging, or only 'patch up' the surface that remained after the parging was removed?

[Drybrain]

I'm wondering what this means exactly, in terms of restoring the exterior to its original appearance:




Not sure, but when they took the brick off it became apparent that some of the concrete detailing of the facade underneath was banged up in years past. I've been wondering if they would fix this, and it sounds from this as if they will.

Page 15 discusses the extent of restoration, and says something about "an exploration of the feasability of the removal of the ground-level masonry veneer...will be made." But unless this refers to something else, that brick has already been removed, so it sounds like it was, indeed, feasible?

It sounds good, but the proof will be in the execution, I guess.

[OldDartmouthMark]

It will probably turn out looking pretty nice, certainly much better than it looks now.

Looking at the Tramway in the background of this pic taken in the 1950s from HRM (https://gencat.eloquent-systems.com/halifax-municipal-archives/permalink.html?key=5009981), you can see how the parging allowed them to add detail to the mid to upper levels. Now that it has been removed, I suspect that they will only be smoothing out the existing and applying some kind of finish over it. While not as nice as the original, it would still be an improvement. I'm happy to see this building finally get some attention, and more residential in the downtown area will be a good thing.

https://gencat1.eloquent-systems.com/webcat/systems/halifax/resource/6000_1038_5009981_cr2.02.jpgplu_p19uu9dd0afdc147p8m715him411.jpg

[Saul Goode]

It will probably turn out looking pretty nice, certainly much better than it looks now.

Looking at the Tramway in the background of this pic taken in the 1950s from HRM (https://gencat.eloquent-systems.com/halifax-municipal-archives/permalink.html?key=5009981), you can see how the parging allowed them to add detail to the mid to upper levels. Now that it has been removed, I suspect that they will only be smoothing out the existing and applying some kind of finish over it. While not as nice as the original, it would still be an improvement. I'm happy to see this building finally get some attention, and more residential in the downtown area will be a good thing.

Man, what a great photo. There's some terrific period detail in the lower half. I just love that stuff!

[OldDartmouthMark]

Man, what a great photo. There's some terrific period detail in the lower half. I just love that stuff!

I was digging the 'snapshot out of a day in the life of the average Haligonian' vibe of the photo as well. Lots of things to pick out in that pic.

[OldDartmouthMark]

I'm not feeling particularly live alive today, but at least we're in step on the dates. Now we just have to stay out of the crossfire while we walk the tightrope.

:haha: Missed that the first time around. Good job. :)

[Saul Goode]

:haha: Missed that the first time around. Good job. :)

Well, I just love me some Stevie Ray. I wish he'd lived long enough to get back to Halifax for a show in better conditions than that awful sonic fiasco that was the Metro Centre in its early days.

I commented to a friend the other day that Stevie Ray, Roy Buchanan and Tom Petty all died shortly after I'd seen them. He said, "So, have you ever asked yourself whether maybe there's a connection?" With friends like that...

[OldDartmouthMark]

Well, I just love me some Stevie Ray. I wish he'd lived long enough to get back to Halifax for a show in better conditions than that awful sonic fiasco that was the Metro Centre in its early days.

I commented to a friend the other day that Stevie Ray, Roy Buchanan and Tom Petty all died shortly after I'd seen them. He said, "So, have you ever asked yourself whether maybe there's a connection?" With friends like that...

It was a cruel irony, and a loss to the music world that it happened just as he got his life back together - I suspect his best work was yet to come.

Note to self: create a list of artists to see before Saul Goode attends their concerts... :uhh:

[Saul Goode]

It was a cruel irony, and a loss to the music world that it happened just as he got his life back together - I suspect his best work was yet to come.

Cruelly ironic indeed. Funny thing about rock bands...same thing happened to Lynyrd Skynyrd, and also in a plane crash to boot. Several of the members had cleaned themselves up and they'd just released one of their best albums, which - again ironically - included a signature autobiographical tune about getting clean before the life kills you. But you probably know all that.

On the plus side, SRV's Double Trouble bandmates weren't aboard the chopper that night, and I had the good fortune to see them backing up Kenny Wayne Shepherd one memorable summer night at the late, lamented Dutchie festival in Truro...but I digress yet again.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Cruelly ironic indeed. Funny thing about rock bands...same thing happened to Lynyrd Skynyrd, and also in a plane crash to boot. Several of the members had cleaned themselves up and they'd just released one of their best albums, which - again ironically - included a signature autobiographical tune about getting clean before the life kills you. But you probably know all that.

On the plus side, SRV's Double Trouble bandmates weren't aboard the chopper that night, and I had the good fortune to see them backing up Kenny Wayne Shepherd one memorable summer night at the late, lamented Dutchie festival in Truro...but I digress yet again.

Yes, LS is another example. Actually, when you start to think of it, the number of musicians (and other famous people) who died in small aircraft or charter flights is quite staggering.

I never had the pleasure of attending a Dutchie festival, nor to see KWS live - I'm sure it was amazing.

[OldDartmouthMark]

It will probably turn out looking pretty nice, certainly much better than it looks now.

Looking at the Tramway in the background of this pic taken in the 1950s from HRM (https://gencat.eloquent-systems.com/halifax-municipal-archives/permalink.html?key=5009981), you can see how the parging allowed them to add detail to the mid to upper levels. Now that it has been removed, I suspect that they will only be smoothing out the existing and applying some kind of finish over it. While not as nice as the original, it would still be an improvement. I'm happy to see this building finally get some attention, and more residential in the downtown area will be a good thing.

Back to topic (lol), here are a couple more shots from 1959-ish showing the Tramway in the background and some of the original detail that existed then. It would be nice if the new project included reinstating that detail, as it was part of Andrew Cobb's design. I imagine, as this type of concrete construction was relatively new, that his concern was to break up the bare concrete surfaces to give visual interest, and IMHO the finished project would definitely benefit from this detail.

https://gencat1.eloquent-systems.com/webcat/systems/halifax/resource/6000_1038_5022204_cr2.12.jpgplu_p1dkgh75kncvh4cv13cb5g6lci4.jpg
Source (https://gencat.eloquent-systems.com/halifax-municipal-archives/permalink.html?key=5022204)

https://gencat1.eloquent-systems.com/webcat/systems/halifax/resource/6000_1038_5022205_cr2.13.jpgplu_p1dkghnjhhsrp76a1d4dci614ko4.jpg
Source (https://gencat.eloquent-systems.com/halifax-municipal-archives/permalink.html?key=5022205)

[Saul Goode]

Back to topic (lol), here are a couple more shots from 1959-ish showing the Tramway in the background and some of the original detail that existed then. It would be nice if the new project included reinstating that detail, as it was part of Andrew Cobb's design. I imagine, as this type of concrete construction was relatively new, that his concern was to break up the bare concrete surfaces to give visual interest, and IMHO the finished project would definitely benefit from this detail.]

Aside from the Tramway aspect, those are another couple of nice 1950s "day in the life of the city" shots. Neat to see the old Garrick Theatre just a few years before it morphed into Neptune, showing a couple of 1958 films - helps date the photo too.

Also, "New Service Restaurant"? How catchy a name is that? Pretty slick marketing back then...

[DT Hfx]

The big bunker building owned by the Lawens on Grafton Street is in the process of being demolished!

[OldDartmouthMark]

:previous:

Best news I've heard all day!

[kzt79]

Just wanted to say, these old photos are really neat - thanks to those who find and share!

[RoshanMcG]

And the new Queen Street intersection. Now, coming down Queen you need to stop and turn left to continue onto Queen. When you are going up Queen (from Spring Garden), you can now only turn right onto Sackville.
http://i.imgur.com/n7Z9Kaih.jpg (https://imgur.com/n7Z9Kai)

Was here again last week and I'm confused about part of this because it seems like they have added dead space with no purpose?
Does anyone know what this might be for?

http://i.imgur.com/xV8TSxOh.jpg (https://imgur.com/xV8TSxO)
http://i.imgur.com/i6aSagPh.jpg (https://imgur.com/i6aSagP)

[atbw]

It’s traffic calming and reduces crossing distance for pedestrians. Similar to other curb-and-bollard projects around town, they’re temporary to see how they work, and then would be implemented more permanently in future street recaps.

[Keith P.]

Was here again last week and I'm confused about part of this because it seems like they have added dead space with no purpose?
Does anyone know what this might be for?


If you look closely, you can see a drain where HRM disposes of excess tax dollars via projects like this. These serve no other practical purpose.

[Dmajackson]

This is going to be one dark building. The cladding is visible on the bottom right.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/06a9d227d16ec0ab5ad2d570b74128f5/8367ec75e16040f2-84/s540x810/84cd78777323d0575748ca90a33d5edaff6c03f8.jpg
Halifax Developments Blog (Photo by David Jackson) (https://urbanhalifax.tumblr.com/)

[OldDartmouthMark]

Wow... hopefully the entire building won't be done in black cladding...

[atbw]

Wow... hopefully the entire building won't be done in black cladding...

I have my thoughts about the white/grey/black/faux wood colour combination that's so prolific right now, but at least there's variety. All-black composite panels look so severe. At least when someone paints a Victorian black there's some interest in the detail still.

[ScovaNotian]

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[RoshanMcG]

http://i.imgur.com/jc5eyjeh.jpg (https://imgur.com/jc5eyje)
Source: Developments HFX (https://www.facebook.com/1613177012119225/photos/basw.AbqkYMoI1TTILSyfthOqg8C0bU537Ai7-Cv3UZgqowdJAn9wA17XVvqbdbEBcfQEqvBrYlf7xVW_Ow2HZCJ0FkO3oatBtxObvqNgZcENa-J7CfnCDlzCmsuxT4xa0Tl_9VxazWD9SRApcjxxX2bOqnEy/3365950603508515/?opaqueCursor=AbpP5PqHPUkDqVkSkHDFGtXC1nfOOHl97yoUe0Yz2AcXTUbcPTUF5CitA1FAVpew754QA6NeYyHQXK8vELp80e83QQqyRbsjI76KWVFVJYdEDrzOl2U0NwB8M57wsrZ9zPiJ1lfUMriEKLOMza7exVoJf9bwDJzFrh54k5AWg7WBZ4J2QgksvNAy42VgzsLOE9ar7ieFKHJCnO_i7k54estVOGgPF-nMZCEKGKoNR1HZ7_X44nZoZ0JPrbjqZ3wiG7KLdVx6nKHDHxEnVl-Zv4XBtAhub_uLZaH5DEnoFht0OGTQQ8THjVvDunQjiEqTxxH9pAncsr7FNv85Q2zn10sk7lCABHIIofaFROplIWPowA1235uIoAsdvBoRQMqtTcFSk0j3UIBXG4tIhQ2FjDe_i3sBBv_fQJzaBSGV23wVHRUv3N_hxdfx_XEk3GPj13Jdr6L_jyclP4JJv9YYgch7yk_zasi7CSVNBPWEAodhPa1-GH6mDX5RbhTk17mPLqjmNYCrE5LJ0D4DYRPmRS90Lpe9J3zqbdODvZXYlK9uWPIJKyO25kuekP65isKUMpazFuc1DXvI-OBSVlK6D-BubMyxvMjUf74kbLUVfuxxYOx-5fsOExP3fpFF5mlg8o4t4ckvigbZH9gKmK-zBCcE)

Some waterfront updates:
http://i.imgur.com/koLRXCph.jpg (https://imgur.com/koLRXCp)

http://i.imgur.com/IW8UNesh.jpg (https://imgur.com/IW8UNes)

http://i.imgur.com/tubFoqph.jpg (https://imgur.com/tubFoqp)

[OldDartmouthMark]

I have my thoughts about the white/grey/black/faux wood colour combination that's so prolific right now, but at least there's variety. All-black composite panels look so severe. At least when someone paints a Victorian black there's some interest in the detail still.

Note to mods: this reply belongs in the General thread as it pertains to the building on Gottingen with black siding being applied.

[Keith P.]

I hope they contracted the price for that wood a year or two back.

[Dmajackson]

Note to mods: this reply belongs in the General thread as it pertains to the building on Gottingen with black siding being applied.

Sorry that was my bad. I've corrected it now.

To answer the question about 2050 Gottingen here is the rendering;

https://www.partnersglobal.com/sites/default/files/styles/slick_media/public/2020-12/screen_shot_2020-12-03_at_10.30.53_am.png?itok=uYAyDrOO
Source: Partners Global - 2050 Gottingen Street, Halifax (https://www.partnersglobal.com/property/2050-gottingen-street-north-end-halifax)

[OldDartmouthMark]

Sorry that was my bad. I've corrected it now.

To answer the question about 2050 Gottingen here is the rendering;



No worries, and thanks for the rendering.

Wow! That is stark. I'm kinda liking it, actually. :)

[Summerville]

I hope they contracted the price for that wood a year or two back.

I was there yesterday and noticed a stack of what was likely 50 sheets of pressure treated plywood, and almost choked on my poutine.

Does anyone have an idea of what is planned here? It appears to be more than just a reconstruction of the finger wharves. Is it a bandstand, new common area or location for a new beer garden?

[RoshanMcG]

I was there yesterday and noticed a stack of what was likely 50 sheets of pressure treated plywood, and almost choked on my poutine.

Does anyone have an idea of what is planned here? It appears to be more than just a reconstruction of the finger wharves. Is it a bandstand, new common area or location for a new beer garden?

Directly adjacent to the Stubborn Goat Beer Garden will be the new Saltyard Social by the same owners:
http://i.imgur.com/99T7CTFh.jpg (https://imgur.com/99T7CTF)

The deck of the boardwalk itself is being extended and pier replaced, to add more gathering space.
I believe there will be two new container-style retail spaces added along this new stretch, in the cut-out section along the new platform.

[mleblanc]

Directly adjacent to the Stubborn Goat Beer Garden will be the new Saltyard Social by the same owners:
http://i.imgur.com/99T7CTFh.jpg (https://imgur.com/99T7CTF)

The deck of the boardwalk itself is being extended and pier replaced, to add more gathering space.
I believe there will be two new container-style retail spaces added along this new stretch, in the cut-out section along the new platform.

I don't remember this being tendered? Instead of turning the waterfront into patio after patio, I wish they would just relax the archaic public drinking laws.

Regardless, the new additions to the waterfront look great. Can't wait to check them out.

[RoshanMcG]

I don't remember this being tendered? Instead of turning the waterfront into patio after patio, I wish they would just relax the archaic public drinking laws.

Regardless, the new additions to the waterfront look great. Can't wait to check them out.

The request for proposals (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/halifax-waterfront-pub-plastic-1.5410823) was put out in late 2019, and the tender was awarded a few months later (https://huddle.today/stubborn-goat-owners-to-open-new-waterfront-restaurant/), but construction delayed to this year because of COVID.

[Dmajackson]

The Design Advisory Committee provides a document regularly that lists the projects seeking Site Plan approval. The latest has a few sites that we don't have previous (or recent) discussion on already;

- 1256 Barrington
- Robie & Willow
- 5651 Ogilvie (Ogilvie Tower)
- 5512 Bilby
- 6067 Quinpool (St Pat's Site)
- Maynard Street
- 3491 Joseph Howe
- 1134 Tower
- Carlton Street (likely the Carleton Tower proposal by Killam)

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default/files/documents/city-hall/boards-committees-commissions/210609dac913_1.pdf

[DigitalNinja]

The Design Advisory Committee provides a document regularly that lists the projects seeking Site Plan approval. The latest has a few sites that we don't have previous (or recent) discussion on already;

- 1256 Barrington
- Robie & Willow
- 5651 Ogilvie (Ogilvie Tower)
- 5512 Bilby
- 6067 Quinpool (St Pat's Site)
- Maynard Street
- 3491 Joseph Howe
- 1134 Tower
- Carlton Street (likely the Carleton Tower proposal by Killam)

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default/files/documents/city-hall/boards-committees-commissions/210609dac913_1.pdf

Thanks! Will be interesting when some details on these come out. A lot of prominent and good sites listed here.

[DigitalNinja]

I was wondering if we should start a thread here for East Hants developments or if it should go under the Atlantic Canada forum? I think it should go here as East Hants' population will be included with Halifax in the next census and the majority is commuters to Halifax.

The reason I bring this up is that there is currently ~4,600 units approved or with active applications ongoing in East Hants adding 10,000+ people to the area or 50%+ of it's current population.

Here are some of the applications I could find:
Shaw Lantz ~1,500 Units: https://www.easthants.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Amended-Concept-Plan-June-2020.pdf / https://www.kiln-creek.com/
Armco Lantz ~2,205 Units: https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development-2/community-planning/planning-applications/armco-capital-inc-planning-application-lantz/
FH Development Elmsdale ~662 Units: https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development/community-planning/planning-applications/pln21-005-elmwood-dr-roulston-dr-and-pinehill-dr-elmsdale/
WM Fares Enfield 198 Units - https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development/community-planning/planning-applications/pln20-002-highway-2-enfield/
Leno Ribahi 2 MU buildings 4 & 6 Stories - Unknown Units (~120 or so?) - No link
JACC Enterprise - South Uniacke ~50 Units https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development/community-planning/planning-applications/pln21-001-south-uniacke-rd-south-uniacke/

Catherine St Investments - Enfield - 168 Units - This one was refused but I assume there will be an appeal or another application for something else on the same site.
https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development/community-planning/planning-applications/pln-004-catherine-st-enfield/

[Keith P.]

I was wondering if we should start a thread here for East Hants developments or if it should go under the Atlantic Canada forum? I think it should go here as East Hants' population will be included with Halifax in the next census and the majority is commuters to Halifax.

The reason I bring this up is that there is currently ~4,600 units approved or with active applications ongoing in East Hants adding 10,000+ people to the area or 50%+ of it's current population.

Here are some of the applications I could find:
Shaw Lantz ~1,500 Units: https://www.easthants.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Amended-Concept-Plan-June-2020.pdf / https://www.kiln-creek.com/
Armco Lantz ~2,205 Units: https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development-2/community-planning/planning-applications/armco-capital-inc-planning-application-lantz/
FH Development Elmsdale ~662 Units: https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development/community-planning/planning-applications/pln21-005-elmwood-dr-roulston-dr-and-pinehill-dr-elmsdale/
WM Fares Enfield 198 Units - https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development/community-planning/planning-applications/pln20-002-highway-2-enfield/
Leno Ribahi 2 MU buildings 4 & 6 Stories - Unknown Units (~120 or so?) - No link
JACC Enterprise - South Uniacke ~50 Units https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development/community-planning/planning-applications/pln21-001-south-uniacke-rd-south-uniacke/

Catherine St Investments - Enfield - 168 Units - This one was refused but I assume there will be an appeal or another application for something else on the same site.
https://www.easthants.ca/government/municipal-departments/planning-development/community-planning/planning-applications/pln-004-catherine-st-enfield/

I would keep it here for the reasons you stated. Also another reason this area is booming is from individuals fleeing HRM in search of lower property tax bills, less intrusive bylaws, and more sensible government If you are already in a suburban area of HRM it is galling to see the spending occurring for the trendies on the peninsula and close environs, while the suburbs are treated as fatted calves to be exploited to pay for the urban dreamland of HRM Planning.

[MonctonRad]

I would keep it here for the reasons you stated. Also another reason this area is booming is from individuals fleeing HRM in search of lower property tax bills, less intrusive bylaws, and more sensible government If you are already in a suburban area of HRM it is galling to see the spending occurring for the trendies on the peninsula and close environs, while the suburbs are treated as fatted calves to be exploited to pay for the urban dreamland of HRM Planning.

Another reason to flee to East Hants is that you can drive a motor vehicle without significant impediments, and you aren't made to feel guilty for doing so. :)

[Drybrain]

I would keep it here for the reasons you stated. Also another reason this area is booming is from individuals fleeing HRM in search of lower property tax bills, less intrusive bylaws, and more sensible government If you are already in a suburban area of HRM it is galling to see the spending occurring for the trendies on the peninsula and close environs, while the suburbs are treated as fatted calves to be exploited to pay for the urban dreamland of HRM Planning.

The residential property tax rate in East Hants is 85 cents per $100 of assessed value. In suburban HRM it’s 63.4 cents, so if you’re moving beyond HRM in search of lower tax bills, you’re going in the wrong direction. (Of course, your absolute bill may be lower because your assessed property value is lower—for good reason.)

[Keith P.]

The residential property tax rate in East Hants is 85 cents per $100 of assessed value. In suburban HRM it’s 63.4 cents, so if you’re moving beyond HRM in search of lower tax bills, you’re going in the wrong direction. (Of course, your absolute bill may be lower because your assessed property value is lower—for good reason.)


As we should all know from HRM Council's decades of trumpeting the tax rate as a false measure of tax burden given their living on assessment roll increases to fund their profligate spending, the amount of taxes paid by ratepayers are far lower in other areas.

[someone123]

I was wondering if we should start a thread here for East Hants developments or if it should go under the Atlantic Canada forum? I think it should go here as East Hants' population will be included with Halifax in the next census and the majority is commuters to Halifax.

I'd say put it in the Halifax section since it will be Halifax CMA. You could also make project threads in "suburbs".

[Dmajackson]

Bayers & Young

https://64.media.tumblr.com/288bf573b9f9c38291259d2490e7d7e8/8e345869d36a4763-9a/s540x810/e1c974a33270697ea3d69453c275e59d770e3ef9.jpg
Halifax Developments Blog (Photo by David Jackson) (https://urbanhalifax.tumblr.com/)

Bayers & Young is being built by Boston Developments Ltd. They have a rendering up on their Instagram Page (https://www.instagram.com/bostondevelopmentsltd/?hl=en) but I can't seem to cross post it here.

[Dmajackson]

I can't seem to find any information on this one. 5560 Cunard Street (between Maynard and Creighton) is being excavated. They're at least a full floor down. It was formerly M&B Transmission. There is no construction permit listed for this site.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/81b5bbd384cd1e9e42df5616f118d583/5c18a9245b4c96dc-43/s540x810/6c39374c57665ab84d498d471eb5e13ed7bfdf57.jpg
Halifax Developments Blog (Photo by David Jackson) (https://urbanhalifax.tumblr.com/)

Across the street 5571 Cunard has gotten a revamp. This commercial building is home to The Coast Magazine and The Schizophrenia Society of Nova Scotia.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/31dff75f45daaa88ff01d4924d7036e9/588d5f8ada01211c-c8/s540x810/cdf48f46637950a175217c00be58462c2723fe9e.jpg
Halifax Developments Blog (Photo by David Jackson) (https://urbanhalifax.tumblr.com/)

And few blocks north East West Street has one more floor to go.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/ee8a29a3fbb5b256fb885c96a000fff5/558a73fd731ae5e6-d9/s540x810/6613d158f61ebf5794897f86ca8343ee5ed49459.jpg
Halifax Developments Blog (Photo by David Jackson) (https://urbanhalifax.tumblr.com/)

[eastcoastal]

I can't seem to find any information on this one. 5560 Cunard Street (between Maynard and Creighton) is being excavated. They're at least a full floor down. It was formerly M&B Transmission. There is no construction permit listed for this site.


Not sure where I heard this, but I recall that this is the future home of FBM Architects.

[Dmajackson]

North End Animal Hospital (Isleville & Bilby)

https://64.media.tumblr.com/47c9e60f8e9bfe54b3c864233f22297d/bffd550ccd6b122a-fa/s540x810/3a6245d38d35193f3873ddf6fa780dc642286f7e.jpg
Halifax Developments Blog (Photo by David Jackson) (https://urbanhalifax.tumblr.com/)

[bluenoser]

Construction of new Ronald McDonald House to start this year in Halifax
Facility will be larger than existing house and built across from IWK Health Centre
Pam Berman · CBC News · Posted: Jun 23, 2021 3:58 PM AT | Last Updated: June 23

https://i.cbc.ca/1.6077251.1624473988!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/ronald-mcdonald-house-halifax.jpg

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/new-ronald-mcdonald-house-construction-1.6077105

[Good Baklava]

“I’m loving it”

[kzt79]

Great initiative and a reasonable looking design.

[Keith P.]

Development proposal for the O'Regans lot on the corner of Maple and Thistle Sts in Dartmouth:

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default/files/documents/city-hall/community-councils/210624hemdcc1313.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1wbS2hXv-qXCAalovyGMoAZOp0xIO3nVtkjh_YxfY5bcrCP5_kWmopQUY

A bit surprised there is so much surface parking when the site would seem suited to have lower-level parking under the units, but better than what has been there for decades.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Development proposal for the O'Regans lot on the corner of Maple and Thistle Sts in Dartmouth:

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default/files/documents/city-hall/community-councils/210624hemdcc1313.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1wbS2hXv-qXCAalovyGMoAZOp0xIO3nVtkjh_YxfY5bcrCP5_kWmopQUY

A bit surprised there is so much surface parking when the site would seem suited to have lower-level parking under the units, but better than what has been there for decades.

Still... meh. 20 units (with parking for 17 + 1).

A taller structure could still fall within the ridiculous Brightwood viewplanes and house many more people while offering stunning views of the harbour due to its elevation.

A fail, IMHO.

[Keith P.]

Still... meh. 20 units (with parking for 17 + 1).

A taller structure could still fall within the ridiculous Brightwood viewplanes and house many more people while offering stunning views of the harbour due to its elevation.

A fail, IMHO.

Well, part of the problem is likely that it is being done by the O'Regan's themselves and not a developer. All they are used to constructing are car dealerships. Height is not in their wheelhouse.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Well, part of the problem is likely that it is being done by the O'Regan's themselves and not a developer. All they are used to constructing are car dealerships. Height is not in their wheelhouse.

The design of car dealerships is dictated by the company for which they hold a franchise, but this is not that. Therefore, if they are getting into the 'developer business', they should have the resources to hire a good architect.

I'm actually surprised that they didn't just sell the land to a developer, for that matter. This seems weird.

[Keith P.]

The design of car dealerships is dictated by the company for which they hold a franchise, but this is not that. Therefore, if they are getting into the 'developer business', they should have the resources to hire a good architect.

I'm actually surprised that they didn't just sell the land to a developer, for that matter. This seems weird.

Perhaps they see this as a starter pack to getting into the land development business. Their Robie St facility is badly outdated and out of place, and would be a prime spot for redevelopment. It could be that they see themselves getting even richer by doing that when the time comes.

[FuzzyWuz]

Well, part of the problem is likely that it is being done by the O'Regan's themselves and not a developer. All they are used to constructing are car dealerships. Height is not in their wheelhouse.

Should have great mats though.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Perhaps they see this as a starter pack to getting into the land development business. Their Robie St facility is badly outdated and out of place, and would be a prime spot for redevelopment. It could be that they see themselves getting even richer by doing that when the time comes.

None of that changes my original comments/opinions. It's fine, and I wish them well if that's what they are doing (don't know them personally but they seem like nice people), but this one is still a 'meh' in my opinion.

Not that anybody really cares about my opinion, but hey, it's a messageboard... ;)

[TheNovaScotian]

Perhaps they see this as a starter pack to getting into the land development business. Their Robie St facility is badly outdated and out of place, and would be a prime spot for redevelopment. It could be that they see themselves getting even richer by doing that when the time comes.

I'm of the mind it's actually of some sentimental value to the O'Regans. Especially Paul, as it's the original lot where he started selling used cars back in 74'.


http://https://www.oregans.com/about-us/

I agree Mark, it's not what I would have in mind for the site but with 11m height restrictions there not much that can be done......except voting out Councillors that support these restrictions on the housing supply in the city.

[Keith P.]

I'm of the mind it's actually of some sentimental value to the O'Regans. Especially Paul, as it's the original lot where he started selling used cars back in 74'.


Well, Paul has been deceased since 2012, so any sentimentality would be left to the sons.

[Hali87]

I guess this would be the Art Gallery site? Not sure if there's a dedicated thread.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51277227903_b667d1dd96_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m8ccog)
Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2m8ccog) by Hali87 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/72021271@N05/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51277061661_23e366779d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m8bkY2)
Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2m8bkY2) by Hali87 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/72021271@N05/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51277226793_3f50744424_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m8cc48)
Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2m8cc48) by Hali87 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/72021271@N05/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51277061681_c2e299c5ec_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m8bkYn)
Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2m8bkYn) by Hali87 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/72021271@N05/), on Flickr

[Jonovision]

^^ This is all an extension of the boardwalk in front of the Salt Yards. Still no news on the new AGNS since it was announced who won the design competition.

I would have expected to hear some more news on this given the election is looming.

[RoshanMcG]

http://i.imgur.com/qQobsErh.jpg (https://imgur.com/qQobsEr)

Sorry that was my bad. I've corrected it now.

To answer the question about 2050 Gottingen here is the rendering;

https://www.partnersglobal.com/sites/default/files/styles/slick_media/public/2020-12/screen_shot_2020-12-03_at_10.30.53_am.png?itok=uYAyDrOO
Source: Partners Global - 2050 Gottingen Street, Halifax (https://www.partnersglobal.com/property/2050-gottingen-street-north-end-halifax)

[Jonovision]

I wish the boxes around the windows were more accurate to the rendering. It would have made for an interesting feature.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Yeah, without them the building loses the contrast that would have made the black cladding work (IMHO). So far, the actual building looks much less interesting than the rendering and (again IMHO) looks a little cheap (as in low quality) due to the materials used.

Perhaps there would have been some functionality taken away from the windows due to views being blocked and less sunlight let in by the boxes?

Maybe once the final details are finished it will look much better.

[Keith P.]

Yeah, without them the building loses the contrast that would have made the black cladding work (IMHO). So far, the actual building looks much less interesting than the rendering and (again IMHO) looks a little cheap (as in low quality) due to the materials used.

Perhaps there would have been some functionality taken away from the windows due to views being blocked and less sunlight let in by the boxes?

Maybe once the final details are finished it will look much better.

That as-built picture makes the project look very cheap.

[MonctonRad]

That as-built picture makes the project look very cheap.

It almost looks like a prefab. Very disappointing.

[atbw]

Looks kind of like a clock radio from the 80s.

[Keith P.]

It gets worse:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E61H1T5XoAI2xue?format=jpg&name=large

Source: Matthew Halliday on Twitter

[mleblanc]

...What does it even say? Zion? Ziqn? Zloan? Zioan?

[eastcoastal]

...What does it even say? Zion? Ziqn? Zloan? Zioan?

Maybe it's an alternate spelling for Vuze?

[Saul Goode]

Maybe it's an alternate spelling for Vuze?

Hah! Good one!

I was thinking maybe it was Klingon for "eyesore".

[Jonovision]

I think it's Zion and I guess it's named after a black church that used to be on the site. I think HRM is working on a plaque to go up along the sidewalk somewhere in front of the building.

[stevencourchene]

https://archives.novascotia.ca/churches/archives/?ID=23

https://www.halifaxtoday.ca/local-news/hrm-looking-for-artist-to-design-african-methodist-episcopal-zion-church-interpretive-panel-3871883

[Colin May]

Good article re the death of high street retail : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/26/the-guardian-view-on-the-future-of-high-streets-let-communities-decide

[RoshanMcG]

North End Animal Hospital (Bilby & Isleville)

http://i.imgur.com/xGOHRaSh.jpg (https://imgur.com/xGOHRaS)

http://i.imgur.com/sPRjYZTh.jpg (https://imgur.com/sPRjYZT)

http://i.imgur.com/83nIi23h.jpg (https://imgur.com/83nIi23)

http://i.imgur.com/Ov14CC2h.jpg (https://imgur.com/Ov14CC2)

http://i.imgur.com/kCoXN0Rh.jpg (https://imgur.com/kCoXN0R)

[eastcoastal]

North End Animal Hospital (Bilby & Isleville)

Thanks for those shots - that little area is getting pretty dense.

[someone123]

Just a small one but it impacts some heritage properties. Addition for a house at 1029 South Park: https://www.halifax.ca/business/planning-development/applications/case-23186-heritage-property-1029-south-park-street

I like this trend of filling in small gaps and the scale fits well but it looks bland. I guess the idea may be to allow the heritage house to stand out more but I think it's better for a street if the buildings just look good, rather than making every other building grey "filler".

[eastcoastal]

Just a small one but it impacts some heritage properties. Addition for a house at 1029 South Park: https://www.halifax.ca/business/planning-development/applications/case-23186-heritage-property-1029-south-park-street

I like this trend of filling in small gaps and the scale fits well but it looks bland. I guess the idea may be to allow the heritage house to stand out more but I think it's better for a street if the buildings just look good, rather than making every other building grey "filler".

I think the addition looks good - I don't have the same reservations, I guess. It is "quieter" than the heritage buildings around it, but at the same time, I don't think curlicues are necessary for it to be a nice addition to the street. Honestly, I think the materiality will go a long way to whether it "feels" good or not. It's close to the sidewalk and amongst buildings with very consistent approach to materials.

[OldDartmouthMark]

I think the addition looks good - I don't have the same reservations, I guess. It is "quieter" than the heritage buildings around it, but at the same time, I don't think curlicues are necessary for it to be a nice addition to the street. Honestly, I think the materiality will go a long way to whether it "feels" good or not. It's close to the sidewalk and amongst buildings with very consistent approach to materials.

I agree. I think it's complimentary to the heritage structures.

[Dmajackson]

More information coming soon but for now there is demolition fencing up around the houses between Joseph Howe Drive & Scott Street and the Superstore parking lot. The property is owned by Kingsbrook Properties and will be developed into a 151-unit residential development. This project is listed as having an active site plan application for Design Advisory Committee.

[IanWatson]

Man, that stretch of Joe Howe is going to be drastically different in 2 years.

[TheNovaScotian]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/arrests-made-as-halifax-protestors-stand-against-clearing-of-shelters-from-city-land-1.6144592

This issue has been downplayed constantly and boiled over yesterday.
Our inefficient land-use patterns are partially to blame. :lynchmob:

Anyone got any :cop: "out of the box" :cop: ideas that could get shovels in the ground quickly?

You all, know what my answer is. :skyscraper:

[Colin May]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/arrests-made-as-halifax-protestors-stand-against-clearing-of-shelters-from-city-land-1.6144592

This issue has been downplayed constantly and boiled over yesterday.
Our inefficient land-use patterns are partially to blame. :lynchmob:

Anyone got any :cop: "out of the box" :cop: ideas that could get shovels in the ground quickly?

You all, know what my answer is. :skyscraper:
Land use has nothing to do with housing low income people and people with drug and mental health problems. The major problem is governments that continually pander to white,middle class people who are dependent on public sector employment. Governments who think the poor and ill will just fade away. My street is about to see Ocean Contractors install a bikeway. The contract was let on August 18 after the HRM council met - the contract was not on the August 17 agenda and nobody wants to talk about who authorised the expenditure. Because it is a Fed/Province/HRM deal the local MP is usually the one who makes the announcement. Somehow I doubt the Liberal MP for Dartmouth is going to hold a press conference to announce the spending of $2.3 million a few days after people were demonstrating for public funding for low income housing.

[Keith P.]

Land use has nothing to do with housing low income people and people with drug and mental health problems. The major problem is governments that continually pander to white,middle class people who are dependent on public sector employment. Governments who think the poor and ill will just fade away. My street is about to see Ocean Contractors install a bikeway. The contract was let on August 18 after the HRM council met - the contract was not on the August 17 agenda and nobody wants to talk about who authorised the expenditure. Because it is a Fed/Province/HRM deal the local MP is usually the one who makes the announcement. Somehow I doubt the Liberal MP for Dartmouth is going to hold a press conference to announce the spending of $2.3 million a few days after people were demonstrating for public funding for low income housing.

That is something your local Council member promoted and cooked up for the neighborhood in which he resides because he is a bike lane fanatic. I was just thinking of this tonight after he posted - 2 days after signing off social media for 2 weeks of vacation, conveniently, the morning of the police action at the old library site - a similar dissembling account to that of his buddy Waye Mason's that appeared on Twitter earlier today. Mason got blasted out of the water, while Austin got similar but less intense negative responses to his tome.

It all made me think of where his priorities are. The bike lanes in his own neighborhood, the narrowing of Wyse Rd., the narrowing of Prince Albert Rd, the useless curb bump-outs everywhere, and of course the upcoming boondoggle of the bridge flyover ramp. It is 10s of millions of dollars that HRM (mostly) is pissing away on these mostly useless things. Meanwhile they throw up their hands when it comes to the real life-and-death problems of people. Shameful.

Someone posted on another site that citizens need to ensure that no incumbents get re-elected next time. I have been saying that for 2 terms now, and it is nice that it is finally becoming apparent more generally that this entire bunch needs to go for reasons of misfeasance, malfeasance, nonfeasance, and ignoring their fiduciary duty to the citizens of HRM.

[Colin May]

I don't have a problem with the bike lane, but I do have a problem with cyclists whizzing past me in the Common and not using a bell. And then there are the cyclists who use every path in the Common although signs at the gates indicate that there are only two routes for cyclists. The bikeway will include more asphalt on Sullivans Pond - over 11 feet wide. If Liberal MP Darren Fisher shows his face to announce federal funding for the bikeway I doubt the protestariat will leave central Halifax to air their views re housing.
Reducing traffic on Dahlia will lead to an increase on adjacent streets.