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SFBuildings888
Apr 16, 2018, 11:58 PM
If only we could annex Brisbane and Daly City we would be over 1 million by now. :cool: :tup:
I agree. SF shouldn’t have only 40 some sq miles of land for being a major city. I don’t know why it couldn’t have a bigger land area in the first place.
coyotetrickster
Apr 17, 2018, 2:38 PM
I agree. SF shouldn’t have only 40 some sq miles of land for being a major city. I don’t know why it couldn’t have a bigger land area in the first place.
Because of California annexation laws. Plus, we don't want Daly City or Brisbane as part of the city.
fimiak
Apr 17, 2018, 6:22 PM
The US is estimated to have an extra 100 million people by 2050 (438m)..they have to live somewhere. I don't see why people's opinions and tribal instincts should get in the way of long-term regional planning. The entire local region should be integrated into a borough system, including at the very least cities like Oakland, S. SF, Daly City, and the two airports.
This would enable even more bridges, tunnels, and other infrastructure projects.. which will have to come in the next 100 years whether people today want to fund them or not.
Imagine what NYC would be like if places like Staten Island, Long Island City, Flushing, Jamaica, even the Bronx were able to close themselves down to growth 100 years ago. The city would not be the same, yet this is exactly what San Francisco does. It is the ability for growth in the local region that made NYC and more (London, Paris, etc) far greater than if only the core city were allowed to grow.
And that is why I am voting for whoever promises the most growth.
mt_climber13
Apr 17, 2018, 10:04 PM
Isn't this thread about construction projects? Please take all ye opinions elsewhere, thanks
pizzaguy
Apr 17, 2018, 10:22 PM
SF County should swallow SM, AL, CC, and SC Counties.
pseudolus
Apr 17, 2018, 11:09 PM
Isn't this thread about construction projects? Please take all ye opinions elsewhere, thanks
where's the upvote button?
SFBuildings888
Apr 19, 2018, 9:09 AM
Because of California annexation laws. Plus, we don't want Daly City or Brisbane as part of the city.
Than why can LA and San Diego each have over 400 and 300 sq miles of land respectively? Also, San Jose has over a 100 square miles of land too.
SFBuildings888
Apr 19, 2018, 9:11 AM
SF County should swallow SM, AL, CC, and SC Counties.
They should swallow up parts of San Mateo County only
coyotetrickster
Apr 19, 2018, 2:16 PM
Than why can LA and San Diego each have over 400 and 300 sq miles of land respectively? Also, San Jose has over a 100 square miles of land too.
http://www.trampsofsanfrancisco.com/defining-san-francisco-how-our-city-became-a-city-part-iii/
Well-researched post about the politics of San Francisco's city limits.
Jerry of San Fran
Apr 19, 2018, 3:41 PM
Coyotetrickster - thanks for the link - a fascinating read!
SFBuildings888
Apr 20, 2018, 8:26 AM
http://www.trampsofsanfrancisco.com/defining-san-francisco-how-our-city-became-a-city-part-iii/
Well-researched post about the politics of San Francisco's city limits.
I read it and still a little confused.
coyotetrickster
Apr 20, 2018, 4:15 PM
I read it and still a little confused.
What's confusing? The city limits at one point in time were set at almost 500 Sq Miles. However, with the counties being established in 1850 and SF electing to be a combined county/city, the boundaries were set by the state legislature to be those of the county of SF, so those also became the city's boundaries. Over the years, politicians from other places in the region enacted legislation to ensure SF's boundaries were not expanded. Part of that was due to rampant corruption in the city, as well as in response to some noxious politicians.
viewguysf
Apr 20, 2018, 6:38 PM
They should swallow up parts of San Mateo County only
I remember not so long ago it was proposed that San Francisco become part of San Mateo County as its largest city. None of this is going to happen, nor in my opinion should it, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have much stronger regional planning in a number of areas.
Can we move on from this discussion now instead of continuing to throw out wishes and opinions? Coyotetrickster explained the current situation well, fimiak presented one solution with a NYC borough type system (the five boroughs that comprise New York City are five separate counties), we could strengthen regional transportation and planning agencies that already exist, etc. Pizzaguy's suggestion would be the ultimate nightmare to me.
dimondpark
Apr 20, 2018, 8:57 PM
SF County should swallow SM, AL, CC, and SC Counties.
No thank u, I dont need SF telling me what to do.
pizzaguy
Apr 20, 2018, 9:08 PM
Pizzaguy's suggestion would be the ultimate nightmare to me.
I'm inspired by LA County, the largest in the US, which has been building new transit lines at a much faster pace than the Bay Area. A consolidated SF County, which would be the 2nd largest in the US, with one transit agency would serve us much better.
dimondpark
Apr 20, 2018, 11:01 PM
I'm inspired by LA County, the largest in the US, which has been building new transit lines at a much faster pace than the Bay Area. A consolidated SF County, which would be the 2nd largest in the US, with one transit agency would serve us much better.
LA is making up for wasted years and LA Metro ridership is down so not sure why u say we need to emulate that?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-metro-ridership-20180124-story.html
mt_climber13
Apr 21, 2018, 10:00 AM
Welcome to Donald Trump's America.
alpallord
Apr 24, 2018, 9:56 PM
Delayed. One oak on the market due to rising costs.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/04/24/sf-one-oak-condo-tower-build-sale-van-ness.html
1977
Apr 24, 2018, 11:25 PM
Delayed. One oak on the market due to rising costs.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/04/24/sf-one-oak-condo-tower-build-sale-van-ness.html
Bummer. That intersection definitely could use some love.
Pedestrian
Apr 24, 2018, 11:38 PM
Bummer. That intersection definitely could use some love.
While it isn't scheduled for groundbreaking until the city's new offices at Mission and S. Van Ness are completed about 2020, as far as I know the project across the street at 30 Van Ness as well as the other Hub projects are still on track: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=227458
Pedestrian
Apr 24, 2018, 11:42 PM
My Safari browser can't load the One Oak thread since this afternoon when there were a couple of posts about the possible delay (but before we had the BizTimes confirmation. Anybody else having a problem?
viewguysf
Apr 25, 2018, 4:33 AM
My Safari browser can't load the One Oak thread since this afternoon when there were a couple of posts about the possible delay (but before we had the BizTimes confirmation. Anybody else having a problem?
I opened it with my Safari browser and the Business Times link was already posted. No One Oak for the foreseeable future.
Jerry of San Fran
Apr 25, 2018, 3:25 PM
Delayed. One oak on the market due to rising costs.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/04/24/sf-one-oak-condo-tower-build-sale-van-ness.html
Thanks alpallord for the news. Disappointing news! The question is now what will be built there?
pseudolus
Apr 25, 2018, 6:51 PM
Thanks alpallord for the news. Disappointing news! The question is now what will be built there?
The article is behind a paywall. Am I the only one who doesn't subscribe? I can only see the first sentence: "A site approved for a 40-story condo tower that would be one of the tallest outside of downtown San Francisco is being marketed for sale."
That in itself, while discouraging, doesn't sound catastrophic. Are there other details?
Pedestrian
Apr 25, 2018, 8:10 PM
^^Check your PM inbox
pseudolus
Apr 25, 2018, 10:11 PM
^^Check your PM inbox
Got it, thanks!
Pedestrian
Apr 25, 2018, 11:52 PM
I can only see the first sentence: "A site approved for a 40-story condo tower that would be one of the tallest outside of downtown San Francisco is being marketed for sale."
That in itself, while discouraging, doesn't sound catastrophic. Are there other details?
On request:
San Francisco-based developer Build is now looking to sell the project amid rising construction costs and fees, according to four sources tracking the project.
Lou Vasquez, founder of Build, declined to comment on One Oak. He said development was becoming more difficult throughout San Francisco.
"High construction costs and rising fees and exactions are making all residential projects difficult to finance," he said.
ozone
Apr 26, 2018, 2:56 PM
^^^ doesn’t seem to be insurmountable problems for many other developers. It’s so typical to shift the blame of one’s failure to others. I’ve seen this happen over and over again regardless of city or economy.
Jerry of San Fran
Apr 26, 2018, 10:47 PM
950 Market Development - went by today & see that a plywood fence is up - looks like the demolition work may be imminent. Almost the whole block will be demolished for this one.
coyotetrickster
Apr 27, 2018, 2:25 AM
On request:
Well, without access to Build's financials, there are lots of things one could speculate about why the company arrived at this decision. Several big LA projects that were financed with Chinese money are now on hold, so it could have been financing. Related is moving forward on 1500 Mission because of city-guarantees for the office component, and Related has a much stronger history of delivering projects (except for the Gerhy project in dtla). Or, the cost of construction could have exceeded the rate of return (RoI), Or would have required a per unit cost that is no longer feasible in this market. Well, at least we still have the donut shop...
pseudolus
Apr 27, 2018, 2:34 AM
Well, without access to Build's financials, there are lots of things you could speculate. Several big LA projects that were financed with Chinese money are now on hold. Related is moving forward on 1500 Mission because of city-guarantees for the office component and Related has a much stronger history of delivering projects (except for the Gerhy project in dtla).
Has Build ever done a high-rise? Maybe they're in over their heads?
http://bldsf.com/projects/
I suppose it's true, but it's odd that nobody else has reported this or even noted that bizjournal did.
timbad
Apr 27, 2018, 3:50 AM
950 Market Development - went by today & see that a plywood fence is up - looks like the demolition work may be imminent. Almost the whole block will be demolished for this one.
please let that one get going. that'll make a trio in the area, with the other one down at 1066 Market and this one on Eddy and Taylor:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/960/41663019111_84ec42c178_b.jpg
timbad
Apr 27, 2018, 5:02 AM
the cluster on the north slope of Potrero Hill...
almost the entire block between 18th and Mariposa, Arkansas and Carolina
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/970/39856415340_edb5637956_b.jpg
17th and Arkansas
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/938/39856398290_7e71140a1b_b.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/883/27794680298_97f946342f_b.jpg
across Arkansas, a very tidy excavation
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/980/27794678478_0bea36d129_b.jpg
16th and Carolina
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/875/39856407750_7d0c08375d_b.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/980/39856410780_d9404d1785_b.jpg
timbad
Apr 27, 2018, 5:33 AM
a week old now, but the office building on Townsend
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/830/41623825872_9ef61275b1_b.jpg
so now there is a little island of sidewalk on the north side of Townsend
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/895/26795912667_99f59f1e90_b.jpg
100 Hooper, from the train...
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/846/41623828302_2aefaae1f9_b.jpg
...and the sidewalk
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/878/26795879757_1c3a314de6_b.jpg
Hooper St itself, with a bona fide sidewalk now
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/832/40772855535_b26de94180_b.jpg
855 Brannan is all wrapped up. 8th St side
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/847/27794658128_8a262d995d_b.jpg
Brannan side
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/921/27794660338_d90fe4c183_b.jpg
corner
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/900/27794668448_b2a7875299_b.jpg
mid-block passage. I thought retail was supposed to be part of this, but either I remember wrong or they changed plans
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/975/26795651097_0850ecee31_b.jpg
Flax site on Market
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/849/41663027161_4480e30eec_b.jpg
affordable element of 55 Laguna
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/932/41663025801_168679390c_b.jpg
hotel on Townsend. I think this might be a case where the renderings looked better than reality
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/909/40953242314_bb38c19505_b.jpg
east slope of Potrero Hill
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/836/41623760512_a5a1724c86_b.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/859/41623762002_6096c5f6af_b.jpg
Indiana St in Dogpatch
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/962/40953366664_c810e64758_b.jpg
pseudolus
Apr 27, 2018, 3:11 PM
Another, more general, piece about rising construction costs, this one not behind the paywall.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/04/26/construction-costs-killing-new-bay-area-housing.html
fimiak
Apr 27, 2018, 5:50 PM
Posting these here since I can no longer post in the 33 Tehama thread. The rooftop is now open.
http://i.imgur.com/jvfOeS7l.jpg (https://imgur.com/jvfOeS7)
http://i.imgur.com/nNc4c0Nl.jpg (https://imgur.com/nNc4c0N)
http://i.imgur.com/eOOg9Z4l.jpg (https://imgur.com/eOOg9Z4)
http://i.imgur.com/ptyH14Ol.jpg (https://imgur.com/ptyH14O)
http://i.imgur.com/bcp92stl.jpg (https://imgur.com/bcp92st)
timbad
May 6, 2018, 6:18 AM
100 Hooper again... gratifying to see that we will get Channel Street back on the northern side, which Recology had occupied/blocked off for some time
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/824/27029936437_c86282104a_b.jpg
(ah, I'd forgotten there had been an arrangement (https://www.sfbos.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/bdsupvrs/ordinances09/o0252-09.pdf) with the City related to that a few years ago: the City give half the right-of-way on Channel to Recology in exchange for some land next to a park in the far SE area of SF)
and overall will feel different just to have more regular streets and sidewalks on that side of Seventh. couple other shots since we are here...
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/908/27029937607_426d6c1188_b.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/871/27029938757_d9e3f15252_b.jpg
timbad
May 7, 2018, 5:13 PM
950 Market Development - went by today & see that a plywood fence is up - looks like the demolition work may be imminent. Almost the whole block will be demolished for this one.
here the visual...
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/908/41901739522_26b7a184ff_b.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/958/41901740842_1146f1e6b2_b.jpg
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/524e0133e4b05e9b2078f732/5601bd6be4b0194ec172ddb6/57e99764725e252da33280f9/1474926447601/tip-sm.jpg?format=1500w
timbad
May 7, 2018, 5:44 PM
OK, the hotel on Third and Townsend doesn't look as bad as I first thought
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/967/41901737132_9794237264_b.jpg[/url]
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/953/41901735772_89739bea42_b.jpg[/url]
timbad
May 9, 2018, 4:42 AM
forgot if we've mentioned that this little project (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2016/04/sixth-street-development-site-in-play.html) on Sixth near Harrison is underway
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/864/41901742152_b3b1a8f201_b.jpg
Third and 19th in Dogpatch
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/863/40138531910_119ac0d155_b.jpg
here comes 1395 22nd St
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/953/40138529900_374b76211f_b.jpg
Tennessee St
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/966/41227636714_d01ab7f49c_b.jpg
Thanks, timbad. It's great to see that some of these infill projects (363 6th, 950 market, etc) are getting started. 950 Market should have a huge impact on the area.
1977
May 10, 2018, 2:22 AM
Phase 1 of Pier 70 is breaking ground:
The transformation of Pier 70 from a long-shuttered maritime industrial complex to a lively mixed-use waterfront community will kick off Thursday at a groundbreaking with the normal mix of political speeches and platitudes.
But in this case the ceremony won’t be pure pageantry: When the elected officials leave with their gold-plated shovels, the real work will begin immediately, according to Jack Sylvan, senior vice president with developer Forest City.
With unprecedented speed, Forest City will mobilize workers this month on the first phase of one of the city’s most anticipated new developments: the 28-acre bayside enclave that will eventually include 1,100-2,150 residential units and more than 1 million square feet of commercial space, with local retail and services, arts and light industrial space, and a new waterfront arts facility.
Phase one will consist of four buildings, one park, new utilities, and two new streets connecting Dogpatch and the waterfront. Ten feet of dirt will be added to most of the site to protect against sea-level rise. The frame of one hulking steel building, Building 15, will be taken apart and then reassembled on its old site to provide a historic industrial gateway that folks walking or biking along 22nd Street will pass through on the way to a new bayfront park, to be called Slipway Commons.
Other phase one buildings include a 275,000-square-foot new office building; a new, 280-unit residential complex; and a 120-unit apartment building to be constructed within the shell of Building 2, a four-story concrete structure. Forest City is hoping to have all four buildings complete by the middle of 2021
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Pier-70-s-transformation-gets-underway-at-12902232.php
Pier 70 project page (http://www.pier70sf.com/) and some renderings (http://www.pier70sf.com/future/)
timbad
May 10, 2018, 4:17 AM
Phase 1 of Pier 70 is breaking ground...
yee-haw! (Pier 70 also has its own thread (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=8169821#post8169821) now, too)
fimiak
May 11, 2018, 4:14 AM
The view from above. Click for larger images.
http://i.imgur.com/CzWg1VHh.jpg (https://imgur.com/CzWg1VH)
http://i.imgur.com/CBYArVkh.jpg (https://imgur.com/CBYArVk)
coyotetrickster
May 12, 2018, 6:25 PM
No one's posted this yet, so....
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Facebook-expands-in-S-F-will-lease-space-at-12907804.php
If Facebook comes through, this means there is virtually no class A office space coming online in SF until Oceanwide opens in 2021.
timbad
May 12, 2018, 9:48 PM
No one's posted this yet, so....
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Facebook-expands-in-S-F-will-lease-space-at-12907804.php
If Facebook comes through, this means there is virtually no class A office space coming online in SF until Oceanwide opens in 2021.
fimiak did post a link to Biz Journal's version, in the Park Tower thread (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=8185078#post8185078)
timbad
May 13, 2018, 10:59 AM
scaffolding is down on the little one on Harrison between Third and Fourth
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/960/42076033511_2ca35e521f_b.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/970/42076035561_34fa8235a2_b.jpg
timbad
May 13, 2018, 11:12 AM
Moscone
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/908/42076040391_185fc98e00_b.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/955/42076043021_60fc98e9e6_b.jpg
couple other angles on the hotel on Third and Townsend: from the south...
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/947/40268553230_42944330ba_b.jpg
... and east (for those of us who remember Townsend in the 90s, when none of these buildings existed, this shot is striking)
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/955/40268555800_d44943f435_b.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/978/42075981351_6185222639_b.jpg
BobbyMucho
May 13, 2018, 4:04 PM
scaffolding is down on the little one on Harrison between Third and Fourth
Not the outcome I hoped for. Balconies in SF seem relatively pointless. The glass rail on them is atrocious. Regardless, I'm excited to see another underutilized lot get built up.
Pedestrian
May 14, 2018, 11:57 PM
Noticed this building going up in the Tenderloin today on Larkin St (near O'Farrell). 8 stories "with 42 condos over 1,400-square-feet of retail space and parking for 22 cars" replacing this:
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/719-Larkin-Site3.jpg
http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2015/05/tenderloin-rising-plans-for-eight-stories-of-condos-on-larkin.html
As of today:
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/965/40309288060_aa31684e7e_b.jpg
Photo by moi
Kind of a rough-edged spot to buy a cond, though it happens to be across the street from my go-to Asian grocery. All the luck to them, though. It's what 'hood needs. Can't find a rendering but if JS Sullivan is still doing it, I expect good things. They are doing a couple of other pretty nice looking infill buildings around town.
pseudolus
May 15, 2018, 1:32 AM
from the planning app
https://i.imgur.com/PvEqCVt.png
viewguysf
May 16, 2018, 6:10 AM
Condo project at California & Powell, Nob Hill
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/947/41422733184_1dd5b7762a_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/267okqU)Condo project @ California & Powell, Nob Hill (https://flic.kr/p/267okqU) by viewguysf (https://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/), on Flickr
timbad
May 16, 2018, 7:28 AM
Condo project at California & Powell, Nob Hill...
oooh, thanks, nice angle and I'd forgotten about that one!
Pedestrian
May 21, 2018, 6:22 PM
Reminder: Tomorrow is the official "unveiling" of the LED light installation atop the Salesforce Tower: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=199946&page=190
Pedestrian
May 22, 2018, 2:33 AM
Exclusive: Union Square's first new retail development in 20 years to break ground after years of delays
By Katie Burke – Food/Hospitality/Retail Reporter, San Francisco Business Times
May 14, 2018, 12:00pm PDT Updated May 14, 2018, 1:39pm
The corner of Grant Avenue and Sutter Street will be home to Union Square's next retail transformation now that plans for the district's first new development in decades is at the starting line.
Lincoln Property Company and St. Bride's Managers, the joint venture spearheading the 300 Grant Ave. project, will break ground this week on a 6-story, 70,000-square-foot property with room for retail and office tenants. The development, with an estimated construction cost of $19 million, is slated for a late 2019 completion and early 2020 opening. It's not clear yet what the mix of retail vs. office will be . . . .
Plans to develop the coveted corner lot in San Francisco's premier retail district have been in the works for more than a decade. After a proposal to build a 10-story residential and retail tower failed to survive the recession, a new owner swooped in about four years ago to reposition the plans to include retail and office.
The joint venture purchased the site for $49.25 million in 2014, according to Property Shark research.
The development will be Union Square's first ground-up project in more than 20 years after construction on Crate & Barrel's store at 55 Stockton St. and the 7-story Bvglari Building at One Union Square . . . .
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/956/42268891221_fd1c63440a_b.jpg
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/05/14/sf-union-square-retail-shopping-office-space.html
No rendering of the replacement offered.
BobbyMucho
May 22, 2018, 4:10 AM
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/05/14/sf-union-square-retail-shopping-office-space.html
No rendering of the replacement offered.
Socketsite (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2016/08/the-new-plans-for-300-grant-street-take-three.html) as well as Robert Becker (https://robertbecker.com/envira/860/300-grant/) have a few renderings on their sites. Hopefully it's evovled a bit since then; regardless, a peek at what it may become.
Pedestrian
May 22, 2018, 5:56 PM
Is anyone else concerned that a $9 Bay Bridge toll will inhibit business development (and office construction) in San Francisco? I don't commute; don't even work. So like most people, I'd be inclined to support a tax somebody else will be paying. But I am worried there could be a bit of a revolt from commuting employees forced to pay this (or their employers if they reimburse it) and it would constitute motivation for businesses--and buildin--to relocate to the East Bay or Peninsula.
Any thoughts?
Pedestrian
May 22, 2018, 6:03 PM
Prolific investor jumps into Mid-Market with $110 million deal for 1390 Market St. in San Francisco
By Blanca Torres – Reporter, San Francisco Business Times
May 18, 2018, 1:30pm
Prolific deal-maker Swift Real Estate Partners picked up its first office building in San Francisco’s Mid-Market area.
The investor snapped up the first 12 floors consisting of 220,000 square feet of office and ground-floor retail in 1390 Market St. from Broadreach Capital Partners. The price was $110 million or about $500 per square foot, according to a source familiar with the deal.
The 29-story tower, formerly known as Fox Plaza, includes apartments on the upper floors owned by San Mateo-based Essex Property Trust . . . .
The space is 89 percent leased up to mostly tech and government tenants including Twitter (NYSE: TWTR), Arista Networks and the City of San Francisco.
Swift plans on sprucing up the building’s lobby, common areas and exterior and has hired on Cushman & Wakefield to handle the office and retail leasing . . . .
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/05/18/swift-partners-1390-market-fox-plaza-office-sale.html
iamfishhead
May 24, 2018, 2:20 AM
Is anyone else concerned that a $9 Bay Bridge toll will inhibit business development (and office construction) in San Francisco? I don't commute; don't even work. So like most people, I'd be inclined to support a tax somebody else will be paying. But I am worried there could be a bit of a revolt from commuting employees forced to pay this (or their employers if they reimburse it) and it would constitute motivation for businesses--and buildin--to relocate to the East Bay or Peninsula.
Any thoughts?
I wouldn't expect it to be too bad. According to this report by BART (https://www.bart.gov/sites/default/files/docs/3%20-%20BART_DowntownSFOfficeMarket_Final_07-2015_0.pdf) only 20% of people commuting to FiDi, from East Bay, commute alone. An additional 12% carpool, but presumably this would have less of an effect on each individual in the carpool since the increase for each commuter is not as much. If anything, I think it would make more people take buses or BART.
northbay
May 24, 2018, 5:14 AM
I wouldn't expect it to be too bad. According to this report by BART (https://www.bart.gov/sites/default/files/docs/3%20-%20BART_DowntownSFOfficeMarket_Final_07-2015_0.pdf) only 20% of people commuting to FiDi, from East Bay, commute alone. An additional 12% carpool, but presumably this would have less of an effect on each individual in the carpool since the increase for each commuter is not as much. If anything, I think it would make more people take buses or BART.
I agree. I like the fact that it is phased over three years. Also, relatively speaking, tolls here are cheap compared to New York.
minesweeper
May 25, 2018, 3:02 PM
Is anyone else concerned that a $9 Bay Bridge toll will inhibit business development (and office construction) in San Francisco? I don't commute; don't even work. So like most people, I'd be inclined to support a tax somebody else will be paying. But I am worried there could be a bit of a revolt from commuting employees forced to pay this (or their employers if they reimburse it) and it would constitute motivation for businesses--and buildin--to relocate to the East Bay or Peninsula.
Any thoughts?
I wouldn't expect it to have much impact, maybe a bit on the margins as people adjust, like with higher gas prices. There's already plenty of motivation to locate your business outside of SF: higher rent, crushing traffic, expensive parking, extra regulations on health care, sick leave, minimum wage, etc. Yet, there's no shortage of businesses that want to be here.
The toll doesn't rise to the $9 peak until 2025. Presumably those driving into the city are already paying much more than that to park anyway (or their employer is). BART is already $7 roundtrip from DTO, and the ferry more than $10 roundtrip from Alameda. The GGB toll is rising to $7 (with Fastrak) this summer, so $9 in 2025 isn't really going to be out of line with the alternatives.
SFView
May 25, 2018, 7:11 PM
Source: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2018/05/proposed-hub-heights-raised-impact-report-about-to-be-drafted.html
Proposed Hub Heights Raised, Impact Report about to Be Drafted
While originally envisioned to allow building up to 600 feet, in addition to evaluating a higher 360 foot height limit for the International School parcel at 98 Franklin, the proposed height limits for the redevelopment of the San Francisco Honda site at 10 South Van Ness has officially been raised from 500 to 590 feet.
And the proposed height limit for the corner parcel at 1 South Van Ness Avenue, upon which an 8-story building currently sits, has been raised from 600 to 650 feet in height, in order to help mitigate “a “table-topping” effect on the area’s rapidly evolving skyline with uniform heights of tall buildings and little transition to adjacent areas” and cement the corner as the visual hub of the neighborhood.
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/The-Hub-Heights-2018-Map.jpg
Also note that the height of One Oak has also been raised from 400 to 450 feet. We could see a taller (re)design for One Oak in the future.
SFView
May 25, 2018, 7:16 PM
...And while we're on the subject, here is also something on the increased height of Hayes Valley Tower.
Source: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2018/05/even-more-height-for-hayes-valley-tower-as-proposed.html
And as newly rendered by SOM below, the team is now proposing the roof of the tower be allowed to reach a height of 359 feet, with another 20 feet to the top of its parapet, a proposal which would yield 345 apartments, 75,000 square feet of International School space withing the tower’s 5-story podium, and 3,100 square feet of ground floor retail space at the corner of Oak and Franklin.
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/98-FranklinStreet-Rendering-360-Feet.jpg
viewguysf
May 28, 2018, 5:41 AM
150 Van Ness seems well tied into the 100 Van Ness tower, with amenities for all of the rental apartments being jointly marketed.
https://150vanness.com
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/885/42351736552_a70e63d15c_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/27wtHLm)150 Van Ness (https://flic.kr/p/27wtHLm) by viewguysf (https://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/), on Flickr
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/967/28528371358_5bff4ccb80_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/KsXmTG)150 Van Ness (https://flic.kr/p/KsXmTG) by viewguysf (https://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/), on Flickr
Jerry of San Fran
May 28, 2018, 11:14 AM
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/05/18/swift-partners-1390-market-fox-plaza-office-sale.html
I was shocked to see your posting (I live in the Essex Fox Plaza). I just got back from a 14 day trip to Belgium & am catching up on the news). I suspected at least part of the building was for sale due to the seismic upgrade happening now. I have always thought it odd that a building would be owned by two different companies - it has caused some conflict. The business lobby will be redone AGAIN! It happens every we get a new manager or owner.
Pedestrian
May 28, 2018, 7:09 PM
I was shocked to see your posting (I live in the Essex Fox Plaza). I just got back from a 14 day trip to Belgium & am catching up on the news).
Ha! I posted that mainly for you and was waiting for a response. ;)
Now you're back, how about some more pictures of Trinity Plaza, Phase 4?
a very long weekend
May 31, 2018, 5:31 AM
^ That's a big move for Swift. This doesn't include the USPS/Starbucks portion, though, right? That's still held by Essex? Are the entitlements still good on that 11 story project there, or have they expired?
viewguysf
May 31, 2018, 7:54 AM
^ That's a big move for Swift. This doesn't include the USPS/Starbucks portion, though, right? That's still held by Essex? Are the entitlements still good on that 11 story project there, or have they expired?
It's my understanding that Essex only owns the upper apartment floors and that Swift will own all of the retail along with the office floors.
SFView
May 31, 2018, 6:57 PM
Rendering for Skinny Transbay District Tower Revealed
Source: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2018/05/rendering-for-skinny-transbay-district-tower-revealed.html
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/540-Howard-Rendering-Elevation.jpg
And as newly rendered by Ankrom Mosian Architects above, and in more detail below, the proposed tower – which would yield 149 market rate condos over 52,000 square feet of office space, 8,000 square feet of retail/restaurant space and a basement garage for 89 cars and 135 bikes – would rise to a height of 495 feet, with wrap around decks and residential amenity spaces on the 8th and 28th floors, and setbacks above, breaking up the tower’s mass.
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/540-Howard-Rendering.jpg
Pedestrian
Jun 5, 2018, 2:57 AM
Do we have any idea what is eventually to be done with the northwest corner of Howard & Main; the part of the block NOT occupied by Park Tower? I was down there today and it's a much bigger site than I remembered it being. It can't just sit vacant as everything around it becomes a tower, but I don't recall any specific proposals for it.
Incidentally, I also walked by the Oceanwide site and it really looks like the Malcolm folks are winding up and everybody's getting ready to dig. In fact, while I was there they were digging a small hole in the middle of the site but I couldn't tell why.
BobbyMucho
Jun 5, 2018, 4:45 AM
Do we have any idea what is eventually to be done with the northwest corner of Howard & Main; the part of the block NOT occupied by Park Tower? I was down there today and it's a much bigger site than I remembered it being. It can't just sit vacant as everything around it becomes a tower, but I don't recall any specific proposals for it.
Incidentally, I also walked by the Oceanwide site and it really looks like the Malcolm folks are winding up and everybody's getting ready to dig. In fact, while I was there they were digging a small hole in the middle of the site but I couldn't tell why.
From what I remember there's a right of way for 201 Mission St that runs through the middle of the block and can't be developed, but I believe part of it will become open space/park once Park Tower is complete.
timbad
Jun 6, 2018, 6:58 AM
around the horn...
100 Hooper is starting to come together...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1754/42585143171_551a555eb7_b.jpg
the central gallery
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1721/41863783574_2db10638e9_b.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1744/41684807895_ff11bc09b3_b.jpg
the back end
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1754/41684812765_923264273a_b.jpg
looking east along the north side
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1728/41684816685_77aa22244e_b.jpg
couple peeks inside
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1749/40777809750_248283d20b_b.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1724/27717545427_65c31f41fc_b.jpg
33 Tehama plaza, since its thread is closed. this building doesn't seem to have the livening effect I thought it might on its alley, at least not yet
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1750/42533661622_553eac003d_b.jpg
Moscone, from Mission...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1727/28711491478_2640f5dd99_b.jpg
... and Howard
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1730/42585156211_76e6d8b0e7_b.jpg
this little one on Market near Van Ness is still in hibernation
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1760/28711488918_e0075f29b5_b.jpg
Flax site
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1747/41863799534_bdfe301f45_b.jpg
the affordable component of 55 Laguna
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1735/41863806214_13e55e595d_b.jpg
looking down the grand stair
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1734/41863811984_69d235b60d_b.jpg
north slope of Potrero Hill
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1723/42585136831_6722336fe1_b.jpg
the wrap-around one on Pacific
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1729/42533516292_61e0dc5f27_b.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1721/40777508440_99607fcc7a_b.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1723/40777512640_3bed161d82_b.jpg
The Best Forumer
Jun 6, 2018, 6:34 PM
Rendering for Skinny Transbay District Tower Revealed
Source: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2018/05/rendering-for-skinny-transbay-district-tower-revealed.html
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/540-Howard-Rendering-Elevation.jpg
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/540-Howard-Rendering.jpg
not a bad tower... looks like SF might be on track to get some skinny supertalls like NYC.... thoughts?
Pedestrian
Jun 6, 2018, 7:04 PM
not a bad tower... looks like SF might be on track to get some skinny supertalls like NYC.... thoughts?
It's not a supertall and I doubt they'll build it. A lot of speculation about the motivation of this proposal on Socketsite.
The Best Forumer
Jun 6, 2018, 7:12 PM
It's not a supertall and I doubt they'll build it. A lot of speculation about the motivation of this proposal on Socketsite.
No I meant that with the scarcity of land and real estate prices there ... it will soon make more sense to build skinny supertalls like NYC. :)
Jerry of San Fran
Jun 6, 2018, 8:49 PM
At last I see activity at 1288 Howard (or 1298 - Worldco shows both numbers). The web page has 3 photos of the building.
http://www.worldco.com/portfolio/howard.html
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1751/42626979661_2f1a4dc516_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/27WNpXc)1288 Howard & 9th Streets (https://flic.kr/p/27WNpXc) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/]
Jerry of San Fran
Jun 6, 2018, 8:52 PM
A drawing of the building from Worldco web page.
http://www.worldco.com/portfolio/howard.html
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1741/27758213487_c6bd11ce88_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JhU6MH)1288-howard-03 (https://flic.kr/p/JhU6MH)
AndrewK
Jun 6, 2018, 11:54 PM
The Pacific and Battery project turned out great. It blows my mind that there are still multiple surface parking lots in Jackson Square considering the land values in that neighborhood (to the extent that people get pretty Malthusian when discussing the proposed bmr housing on Broadway).
viewguysf
Jun 9, 2018, 3:42 AM
Taken from Powell and Post at Union Square, the 44-unit condo building under construction at California and Powell has a little tower crane now.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1735/41784379815_9df00574d0_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/26EkSnD)Condo project at California and Powell (https://flic.kr/p/26EkSnD) by viewguysf (https://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/), on Flickr
boyinthecity
Jun 9, 2018, 5:12 PM
As this sign said on a sketchy, old theater one time:
"All Newed Up".
Count the old buildings. ;)
http://02de304.netsolhost.com/helga/TRANSBAY-ALL-NEWD-UP.JPG
source image is mine...
Pedestrian
Jun 13, 2018, 7:23 PM
Impact Report for 250-Foot-Tall Ballet School Tower Released
June 13, 2018
a 27-story tower to rise up to 250 feet in height at the intersection of Otis, South Van Ness Avenue and 12th Street . . . .
The proposed Hub District development now includes a total of 423 apartments (42 studios, 261 one-bedrooms, 111 twos and 9 threes) over 16,600 square feet of replacement space for the existing City Ballet School on the 30 Otis Street site which is slated to be razed; 5,600 square feet of ground floor retail space which would divided in three; and a garage for 74 cars and 361 bikes.
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/30-Otis-Site.jpg
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/30-Otis-Rendering-2018.jpg
http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2018/06/impact-report-for-250-foot-tall-ballet-school-tower-released.html#comment-336359
homebucket
Jun 14, 2018, 11:09 PM
At Risk in a Big Quake: 40 of San Francisco’s Top High Rises
A report by the U.S. Geological Survey includes a list of buildings that are potentially vulnerable to a large quake. Some of San Francisco’s most prominent high rises are on the list.
By Thomas Fuller
June 14, 2018
Experts consider these buildings vulnerable to collapse only in extreme shaking caused by rare and powerful earthquakes, similar to the one that struck San Francisco in 1906.
The list, buried among the seismic calculations of an appendix in the U.S.G.S. report, includes around 40 steel-frame high rises clustered in downtown San Francisco and built between 1960 and 1994, the approximate years when the flawed technique was employed. There are more than 200 high rises in the city.
1. Hartford Building, 650 California
2. Beal Bank Building, 180 Sansome
3. Bechtel Building, 50 Beale
4. 44 Montgomery
5. 425 California Street
6. 555 California Street
7. McKesson Plaza, One Post
8. Pacific Gas & Electric Building, 77 Beale
9. One Embarcadero Center, 355 Clay
10. Transamerica Pyramid, 600 Montgomery
11. 100 Pine Center, 100 Pine
12. 211 Main Street
13. First Market Tower, 525 Market
14. 425 Market Street
15. Two Embarcadero Center
16. 221 Main Street
17. California Automobile Association Building, 100 Van Ness
18. Chevron Tower (Market Center)
19. Spear Tower (One Market Plaza)
20. Steuart Tower (One Market Plaza)
21. Three Embarcadero Center, 155 Clay
22. Shaklee Terraces, 444 Market
23. 333 Market Street
24. 595 Market Street
25. 201 California Street
26. Two Transamerica Center, 505 Sansome
27. 101 California Street
28. Telesis Tower, One Montgomery
29. 1 Ecker Square, 1 Ecker
30. 100 Spear Street
31. 101 Montgomery
32. Citicorp Center, One Sansome
33. 50 Fremont Center
34. 333 Bush Street
35. 345 California Street
36. 301 Howard Street
37. Hilton San Francisco Hotel, 333 O’Farrell
38. San Francisco Marriott, 55 4th
39. Embarcadero West, 275 Battery
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/us/california-earthquakes-high-rises.html
Jerry of San Fran
Jun 15, 2018, 1:13 AM
homebucker - thanks for the story & link. I am glad to see that the Fox Plaza is not on the list as I live there. With that said the Fox Plaza is the midst of being braced for the next Big One.
northbay
Jun 15, 2018, 1:59 AM
Can the above buildings be retrofitted I wonder?
colemonkee
Jun 15, 2018, 2:42 AM
^ Most structures can be retrofitted. It's more the cost that's the issue.
timbad
Jun 15, 2018, 6:17 AM
the hotel at the airport is now becoming visible from Caltrain
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/883/40998376070_09a2d4bd79_b.jpg
viewguysf
Jun 15, 2018, 7:21 PM
Was the former CAA building at 100 Van Ness retrofitted while it was open during conversion? If not, it would be unbelievable negligence.
Jerry of San Fran
Jun 17, 2018, 7:07 AM
Change of the skyline in this area. As a reminder the site was where Flax art supply store was for many years.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/880/42848719381_da0ce0c2e7_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/28hoTrP)1699 Market St. at Valencia St. (https://flic.kr/p/28hoTrP)
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1826/42800098772_7be15ae9bd_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/28d6Ges)1699 Market St. at Valencia St. (https://flic.kr/p/28d6Ges)
the urban politician
Jun 17, 2018, 9:26 PM
Taken from Powell and Post at Union Square, the 44-unit condo building under construction at California and Powell has a little tower crane now.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1735/41784379815_9df00574d0_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/26EkSnD)Condo project at California and Powell (https://flic.kr/p/26EkSnD) by viewguysf (https://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/), on Flickr
That is a wicked angle
1977
Jun 19, 2018, 9:18 PM
Great footage of SF's growing skyline:
275290592
gillynova
Jun 19, 2018, 10:09 PM
Amazing video. Thanks for sharing it here!
1977
Jun 20, 2018, 5:42 PM
950 Market (http://950-974market.com/) update from JK Dineen:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgJXt9gUwAEiMGI.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/SFjkdineen/status/1009465720663564289
And an update from Hoodline:
https://hoodline.com/2018/06/demolition-makes-way-for-mixed-use-mid-market-development
tech12
Jun 21, 2018, 6:48 PM
Great footage of SF's growing skyline:
275290592
really cool video, but lol at this clueless LA resident trying to tell hundreds of thousands of SF natives, living and dead, who use/have used the name "Frisco" for well over a century, that they can't call SF "Frisco".
pseudolus
Jun 21, 2018, 6:55 PM
really cool video, but lol at this clueless LA resident trying to tell hundreds of thousands of SF natives, living and dead, who use/have used the name "Frisco" for well over a century, that they can't call SF "Frisco".
https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Call-Frisco-Herb-Caen/dp/B002IAO010
tech12
Jun 21, 2018, 7:07 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Call-Frisco-Herb-Caen/dp/B002IAO010
Herb Caen was a transplant (surprise) from Sacramento who later admitted that he was wrong to claim that people shouldn't call it Frisco, because people (specifically, working class people) had been calling it Frisco forever, and it wasn't his place to tell them what they could call their city.
Of course SF's upper class loves to perpetuate the "no Frisco" thing, though, and they control the messaging, because rich people control everything, as always...you know, the media, tourism industry , etc. So then you have tourists and transplants who get told not say Frisco, and they just go along with it, which is further reinforced by the fact that they're surrounded by fellow clueless newbies, in a city where only 20% of the residents are natives (let alone natives of the demographics who regularly say "Frisco"...a significant minority to be fair, but still a minority).
gillynova
Jun 24, 2018, 4:15 PM
Does anyone have a link to an active construction cam in SF? Thanks in advance
fimiak
Jun 24, 2018, 6:02 PM
Does anyone have a link to an active construction cam in SF? Thanks in advance
I have a few in my signature.
Here are some more:
https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/parktower
https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/block5
https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/chasecenter
http://tjpa.org/construction-updates/construction-cameras/beale-camera
Please don't link them on a blog or something, if the bandwidth spikes they may be taken down.
*throws starburst*
Don't say I never gave you anything.
gillynova
Jun 24, 2018, 9:25 PM
I have a few in my signature.
Here are some more:
https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/parktower
https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/block5
https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/chasecenter
http://tjpa.org/construction-updates/construction-cameras/beale-camera
Please don't link them on a blog or something, if the bandwidth spikes they may be taken down.
*throws starburst*
Don't say I never gave you anything.
Haha I wasn't planning to post them on a blog or anything. I just wanted to how SF is like personally.
Thanks for the links! :cheers:
Pedestrian
Jun 24, 2018, 11:40 PM
people (specifically, working class people) had been calling it Frisco forever, and it wasn't his place to tell them what they could call their city.
Strange: I've literally never, ever heard anyone who lives in the city call it "Frisco" without irony or sarcasm.
viewguysf
Jun 25, 2018, 9:07 AM
Strange: I've literally never, ever heard anyone who lives in the city call it "Frisco" without irony or sarcasm.
Me either, and I know and have worked with many natives of various ages. Several of my friends are third generation or more.
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