SAN FRANCISCO | Projects: Under Construction, Approved, and Proposed

[viewguysf]

From Socketsite (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/01/the_75_howard_scoop_tower_rendering_and_the_proposed_pu.html):



http://www.socketsite.com/75%20Howard%20Rendering.jpg

http://www.socketsite.com/75%20Howard%20Plaza%20Rendering.jpg

Here's a shot of the hideous parking garage that 75 Howard is supposed to replace--I don't care for the replacement either and hope that it gets redesigned to be more distinctive for this prominent location.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2876/9593855983_69685bdc14_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/9593855983/)
_MG_4912 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/9593855983/) by viewguysf (http://www.flickr.com/people/viewguysf/), on Flickr

[Jerry of San Fran]

fflint - I agree with you on the name. My neighbor has Polish ancestry & he tells me that Nema, at least in the sound of the acronym, means "nothing" in Polish :>)

[timbad]

the veil is off the Dolores St side of the Whole Foods project... the light was not optimal for taking pics when I was by there, morning would be better if someone is in the area...

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2831/9606179668_1ab8dd5d40_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2818/9602948737_1430bb9c42_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3761/9602938257_3fa81686fb_b.jpg

across the street, a few more of the surface panels had gone in on the Saitowitz building, but they are still mostly obscured by the big sign out front, so no pic yet

[mt_climber13]

^ What a huge disappointment!

[fimiak]

Ugly but I will be happy with the whole foods opening.

[hruski]

the veil is off the Dolores St side of the Whole Foods project... the light was not optimal for taking pics when I was by there, morning would be better if someone is in the area...

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2831/9606179668_1ab8dd5d40_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2818/9602948737_1430bb9c42_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3761/9602938257_3fa81686fb_b.jpg

across the street, a few more of the surface panels had gone in on the Saitowitz building, but they are still mostly obscured by the big sign out front, so no pic yet

This was taken in San Jose, right? hehe.

[easy as pie]

union square apple store redesign fixes a good portion of what was wrong with the previous one, but still has an enormous blank wall on the stockton frontage:
http://i.imgur.com/Q4xsIrY.jpg

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/article/Apple-Store-s-new-design-preserves-fountain-4762776.php#photo-5099609

the article also points out that the glass is now set back from post street by several feet, which is great because that corner is crammed as it is. i'd like to see a sidewalk expansion and bulb-out there as part of this project as well, and a better treatment of the stockton street side, which i'm sure we'll eventually get - i just don't see apple convincing planning that it's a great idea to allow them to replace a plaza with a blank wall.

[simms3_redux]

Oy, a bit disappointed by 2001 Market (WF project). Bar Architects was the architect - they are a little more well known for suburban projects and are trying to make inroads into infill, which they prefer on principal (and possibly in terms of $$ too). I think the Dolores side basically deactivates that block, and while potentially not entirely up to the architects, the materials seem a bit cheap.

In other news, hopefully Saitowitz's 8 Octavia stands out as something that exudes high quality architecture and finishes, though with his Dogpatch project and that house on the market in Russian Hill, I'm a little worried.

Similarly, Icon didn't turn out horribly (seems like it's built more solidly than some of the other Upper Market projects, though smaller), but it doesn't wow. Maybe those NIMBYs wishing for more quaint/Edwardian/Queen Anne stuff have a point...this new stuff isn't exactly doing SF any favors. NYC gets far superior new product and their rentals are fetching the same rents and their land on a per unit basis isn't much more expensive than ours. Can some of those architects come over here please?!? Looking forward to Architectonica's project - that has the most potential to me.


IN OTHER NEWS - 340 Fremont is gearing up. Curbed SF had some great information today and a new rendering!! Looks PHENOM.

http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2013/08/27/handels_340_fremont_moves_forward_in_rincon_hill.php

http://sf.curbed.com/uploads/340%20fremontrincon-thumb.png

Suffolk (contractor) to break ground before year end.

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2013/08/what-slow-start-andy-ball-says.html?page=2

41 stories, Handel designed, 440 ft

[tech12]

Maybe those NIMBYs wishing for more quaint/Edwardian/Queen Anne stuff have a point...this new stuff isn't exactly doing SF any favors.

But doesn't SF get so many mediocre buildings in large part because of restrictive zoning rules put in place due to those same NIMBY complaints?

It's like they pressured the city to shoot itself in the foot with these meticulous and misguided zoning rules that lead to tons of modern-style Victorian/Edwardian inspired buildings, that often end up looking like cheap knockoffs (because that's what they pretty much are), and then they complain (understandably) about the results. The same applies to highrise zoning rules stemming from the anti-manhattanization movement, that led to the skyline getting filled with so many fat and relatively short boxes (as developers maximize square footage and thus profits, within height-restricted sites).

Maybe my understanding of all this is off, but that seems to be a big reason why SF has gotten so much mediocre architecture over the past few decades.

[fflint]

I live around the corner from the Whole Foods project and worked for the firm that handled the permitting process--there was no significant NIMBY opposition of note. If you don't like the materials, blame the developer. Personally, the pale brick (lightest colored material) looks good but I'm not sure what the hell the rest of that siding is all about.

[fimiak]

A few shots on Mid Market

http://i.imgur.com/IzAnXld.jpg (http://imgur.com/IzAnXld)

http://i.imgur.com/UzYGJpx.jpg (http://imgur.com/UzYGJpx)

http://i.imgur.com/sQMULci.jpg (http://imgur.com/sQMULci)

http://i.imgur.com/3tPZV4q.jpg (http://imgur.com/3tPZV4q)

The last one is the backside of Market Sq at 10th and Market.

[bluntcard]

If I didn't know better I would think 2001 Market was an old building being covered for a remodel. How can something look old before it's even finished?

[viewguysf]

But doesn't SF get so many mediocre buildings in large part because of restrictive zoning rules put in place due to those same NIMBY complaints? Maybe my understanding of all this is off, but that seems to be a big reason why SF has gotten so much mediocre architecture over the past few decades.

I don't think that's the case with 2001 Market--the form looked really great during construction and while it was veiled, and they pretty much has a blank slate. I'm tremendously disappointed from the above photos. What a loss for such a prominent location!

[viewguysf]

If I didn't know better I would think 2001 Market was an old building being covered for a remodel. How can something look old before it's even finished?

It also looks bland! What's up with that boring color scheme?!

[cwilly]

People always complain about how boring these buildings are, and how other cities have it better. I have been to a lot of other cities and I think this stuff is pretty standard across the board. Aren't 5-10 story infill apartments always a little dull. I would love to see someone show an actual example from another city that they find interesting/exciting.

[scania]

I live around the corner from the Whole Foods project and worked for the firm that handled the permitting process--there was no significant NIMBY opposition of note. If you don't like the materials, blame the developer. Personally, the pale brick (lightest colored material) looks good but I'm not sure what the hell the rest of that siding is all about.

Hey, though I am not there in person, it doesn't look bad to me. Overall I think its nice. I'll see next weekend when I'm there for two weeks.

[minesweeper]

Some quick shots from a moving bus of 55 Laguna with construction fencing up.

Looking south from Haight and Buchanan:
http://i.imgur.com/pDl5ExEl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/pDl5ExE.jpg)

Looking south from Haight and Laguna:
http://i.imgur.com/UuM2m8ul.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/UuM2m8u.jpg)

[brady&gough]

More 55 Laguna:
http://i41.tinypic.com/jtwb42.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/jzbgr5.jpg

8 Octavia :
http://i39.tinypic.com/2upwf4j.jpg

Fell/Oak/Laguna/Octavia:
http://i42.tinypic.com/1ovk3n.jpg

[sofresh808]

People always complain about how boring these buildings are, and how other cities have it better. I have been to a lot of other cities and I think this stuff is pretty standard across the board. Aren't 5-10 story infill apartments always a little dull. I would love to see someone show an actual example from another city that they find interesting/exciting.

agreed, most new stuff in NY isnt that great either too, google Gene Kaufman.

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

Dont worry guys, we have our share of shit being built in LA as well. we like to call them 7 story shit boxes.

[biggerhigherfaster]

agreed, most new stuff in NY isnt that great either too, google Gene Kaufman.

Based on the supertalls thread, NYC at least has a bunch of stylish 800ft+ buildings going up

[biggerhigherfaster]

Dont worry guys, we have our share of shit being built in LA as well. we like to call them 7 story shit boxes.

It is odd and unfortunate how 4-8 story lego-style condo apartments have swept America's major cities. Every gas station/urban infill/former parking lot/former warehouse is being turned into these things. Alternatively, crappy old warehouses are converted into "lofts"--who knew that exposed metal, concrete, and brick was so appealing to the masses

[fimiak]

Does anybody have any info on 525 Harrison st? Apparently a planned 184 units are going in at the current 1-story club, developed by Hines built by Suffolk. Link originally from simms in the 340 Fremont thread http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2013/08/what-slow-start-andy-ball-says.html?page=all . Hines builds great stuff.


Ball said the West Coast arm of Suffolk now has projects totaling $600 million under contract. In addition to 340 Fremont St., Suffolk is the general contractor on BRE’s Mission Bay project, a 360-unit rental project at 1200 Fourth St. and 701 Longbridge St.. The contractor is also doing pre-construction work on several other residential projects, including another Rincon Hill development, Hines’ 184-unit 525 Harrison St., and two East Bay projects, a tower UrbanCore is doing near Lake Merritt and a 17-story complex HSR Berkeley Investments is planning for a site next to Shattuck Cinemas.

[easy as pie]

this is a bit random but i bring it up because it's important. today, i was walking and i came upon what i suspected to be an illegal tree removal (not hard to guess, considering it's a beautiful old tree and the contractors themselves admitted that it was healthy and now the tenants would have more sun. illegal! i phoned 311 immediately and they opened a case file and they'll investigate. but the maximum fine is - get this - $2000! it ought to be 10x that to dissuade these folks, $2000 is nothing. bah. it upset me so much that went into full vigilante mode: on the way back from the gym, i confronted a shirtless drunk as he was trying to steal a bike from in front of the optical underground shop on sutter, he was literally trying to break the lock by yanking the bike hard. luckily he stumbled off rather than punch me in the face. but even with the bay bridge down, we're surrounded by criminals in this town!

[fimiak]

this is a bit random but i bring it up because it's important. today, i was walking and i came upon what i suspected to be an illegal tree removal (not hard to guess, considering it's a beautiful old tree and the contractors themselves admitted that it was healthy and now the tenants would have more sun. illegal! i phoned 311 immediately and they opened a case file and they'll investigate. but the maximum fine is - get this - $2000! it ought to be 10x that to dissuade these folks, $2000 is nothing. bah. it upset me so much that went into full vigilante mode: on the way back from the gym, i confronted a shirtless drunk as he was trying to steal a bike from in front of the optical underground shop on sutter, he was literally trying to break the lock by yanking the bike hard. luckily he stumbled off rather than punch me in the face. but even with the bay bridge down, we're surrounded by criminals in this town!

They use BART.

[pseudolus]

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2013/05/hines-hits-rincon-hill-with-housing.html

Does anybody have any info on 525 Harrison st? Apparently a planned 184 units are going in at the current 1-story club, developed by Hines built by Suffolk. Link originally from simms in the 340 Fremont thread http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2013/08/what-slow-start-andy-ball-says.html?page=all . Hines builds great stuff.

[fflint]

They use BART.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3672/9188781427_6b9c411020_o.jpg

[hruski]

this is a bit random but i bring it up because it's important. today, i was walking and i came upon what i suspected to be an illegal tree removal (not hard to guess, considering it's a beautiful old tree and the contractors themselves admitted that it was healthy and now the tenants would have more sun. illegal! i phoned 311 immediately and they opened a case file and they'll investigate. but the maximum fine is - get this - $2000! it ought to be 10x that to dissuade these folks, $2000 is nothing. bah. it upset me so much that went into full vigilante mode: on the way back from the gym, i confronted a shirtless drunk as he was trying to steal a bike from in front of the optical underground shop on sutter, he was literally trying to break the lock by yanking the bike hard. luckily he stumbled off rather than punch me in the face. but even with the bay bridge down, we're surrounded by criminals in this town!
[redacted]

[easy as pie]

?? obviously i was joking. my criminals were an illegal tree-trimming building manager and a shirtless drunk.

[hruski]

?? obviously i was joking. my criminals were an illegal tree-trimming building manager and a shirtless drunk.

Sorry I skimmed your post.
:cheers:

[minesweeper]

Does anybody have any info on 525 Harrison st? Apparently a planned 184 units are going in at the current 1-story club, developed by Hines built by Suffolk. Link originally from simms in the 340 Fremont thread http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2013/08/what-slow-start-andy-ball-says.html?page=all . Hines builds great stuff.

This one is still in a paperwork/study/design phase. Probably a minimum of two years before anything happens. Here's the Preliminary Project Assessment (http://ec2-50-17-237-182.compute-1.amazonaws.com/docs/Decision_Documents/PPA_Letters/2013.0159U.pdf) from back in April. Most recently they appear to be working on a "Transportation Study" and "Determination of Appropriate Environmental Document". Here's the gist of what they are proposing:

The proposed project would demolish an existing two story building and construct a 164 foot, 16-story, 184 unit residential building. The proposed residential building would total 187,600 sf of residential use, 2,520 sf of retail use, and up to 164 parking spaces with stackers.

[simms3_redux]

The 14-15 floor Hampton Inn going up at ~5th and Mission. I love this little area (that alleyway and all of the restored Market St buildings...they back up so nicely to that alley) and cannot wait til they renovate the old mint...so much potential and the 5th and Folsom resi developments will bring a lot of new residents to the area.

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/Photo1_20130901_zpsec4fb57c.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/photo2_20130901_zps20a2b838.jpg


350 Mission viewed from Millennium tower. That crane is nearly ~360 ft up, and is not a Schering Liebherr luffing tower crane...the crane rental comes from Bigge, which is "big" in the western USA, and after invesgtigating its website I have determined it has to be a Potain luffing crane...probably the one of the models at my links below.

http://www.biggetowercrane.com/tower-crane-charts/POTAIN-MR605.pdf

http://www.biggetowercrane.com/tower-crane-charts/MR405.pdf

All sorts of crane information...Schering's site also has a lot of crane information for the nerds who are interested.

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/photo3_20130901_zps14b5fe86.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/photo4_20130901_zps2283d7fe.jpg


No real visible progress at ORH North or 45 Lansing...the lone excavator at 222 Second has made some progress and of course they are digging like crazy at Lumina and making fast progress there.

[viewguysf]

Labor Day evening update

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7331/9661352368_c3a91a1985_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/9661352368/)
Labor Day Evening (http://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/9661352368/) by viewguysf (http://www.flickr.com/people/viewguysf/), on Flickr

[Jerry of San Fran]

Almost complete - one more floor for the windows - probably will be done in a day or two. I wonder what the "crown" will be clad in.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5531/9674913900_6d92f69bca_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9674913900/)
Crescent Heights North - San Francisco (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9674913900/) by Apollo's Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/antinous/), on Flickr

[philiprsf]

I was walking by 20th and Valencia this morning and noticed that the former parking lot is totally empty.. The permit sign says something about a 5-story apartment building. I was wondering if anyone has seen the plans for this building and what its status is.

[1977]

I was walking by 20th and Valencia this morning and noticed that the former parking lot is totally empty.. The permit sign says something about a 5-story apartment building. I was wondering if anyone has seen the plans for this building and what its status is.

I don't know the status, but I think this is the project you're referring to:

http://urbanlifesigns.blogspot.com/2013/08/from-haz-site-to-condo-site.html

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vtQmdhhtwq8/UgnXgE1jTzI/AAAAAAAACks/l6F_xfOyjs0/s1600/2004.0891CK_899+Valencia+SF+Planning+212.jpg

http://missionlocal.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/valencia.jpg

[SoCalKid]

Dont worry guys, we have our share of shit being built in LA as well. we like to call them 7 story shit boxes.

He speaks the truth, if you visit the Los Angeles Downtown Development Rundown 4.0 you'll see it's one of the main topics of conversation. Too bad this is happening, but even boring infill does have its merits.

[simms3_redux]

Caught some construction pics in Upper Market/Mid-Market this weekend. The drapes are off of 2001 Market and it looks good in person. Linea is going to be truly stunning though...looks exactly like the rendering, which is obviously gorgeous!

2175 Market (Prada/Forest City) - Van Meter Williams Pollack Architects, 85 units, 6 floors.

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket1_zps8a7f4423.jpg

2001 Market (Whole Foods dev) - Prado Group, Bar Architects, 82 condos

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket2_zpsfef30c0d.jpg

Linea - Brian Spiers Dev, Architectonica, 115 condos

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket3_zps3f40a831.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket4_zps465d0e53.jpg

Venn on Market - MacFarlane Partners, 113 apartments

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket5_zps928d4597.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket6_zps60fed71c.jpg

8 Octavia - Saitowitz design, DDG and DM development, 48 condos

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket7_zps7725a861.jpg

100 Van Ness - Emerald Fund, 399 apartments, this thing is finally picking up

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket8_zps4004aae4.jpg

NEMA - Handel designed, Crescent Heights developed/sponsored, 754 apartments

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket9_zps94812f0d.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/septuppermarket10_zps95698e4a.jpg

[cv94117]

The drapes are off of 2001 Market and it looks good in person.

Sorry, but I disagree about 2001 Market. I go by it every day and it looks awful. I kept hoping that maybe there were some finishing touches that would bring it all together, but looks like that's it. Especially coming from the Castro to Downtown, it looks unfinished at the corner with that brown siding crap up against the green stucco.

[Jerry of San Fran]

SoCalKid - thanks for the comprehensive updates. I have no problem with 2001 Market - could have been better, but not offensive to me.

I think that Linea will be a stunner when complete. I find it very high tech, masculine - much to my taste, clean cut. I think it will complement the Mint up the hill & make it more palatable to those who do not like it.

It is interesting that a couple of long term landmarks will be less visible on Market St. from Duboce to Van Ness Ave. - the U. S. Mint and the big baptist church at Octavia.

[Jerry of San Fran]

09/08/2013 - Work was being done on Sunday on the top floor. I could not do what they are doing, working on the edge! The top of the building might be quite interesting. It looks like the design has changed from the first drawing, which I notice is not unusual.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7388/9716049448_e872ca045b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9716049448/)
Crescent Heights Development - San Fancisco (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9716049448/) by Apollo's Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/antinous/), on Flickr

[c33f]

The 14-15 floor Hampton Inn going up at ~5th and Mission. I love this little area (that alleyway and all of the restored Market St buildings...they back up so nicely to that alley) and cannot wait til they renovate the old mint...so much potential and the 5th and Folsom resi developments will bring a lot of new residents to the area.

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/Photo1_20130901_zpsec4fb57c.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/photo2_20130901_zps20a2b838.jpg


350 Mission viewed from Millennium tower. That crane is nearly ~360 ft up, and is not a Schering Liebherr luffing tower crane...the crane rental comes from Bigge, which is "big" in the western USA, and after invesgtigating its website I have determined it has to be a Potain luffing crane...probably the one of the models at my links below.

http://www.biggetowercrane.com/tower-crane-charts/POTAIN-MR605.pdf

http://www.biggetowercrane.com/tower-crane-charts/MR405.pdf

All sorts of crane information...Schering's site also has a lot of crane information for the nerds who are interested.

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/photo3_20130901_zps14b5fe86.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/photo4_20130901_zps2283d7fe.jpg


No real visible progress at ORH North or 45 Lansing...the lone excavator at 222 Second has made some progress and of course they are digging like crazy at Lumina and making fast progress there.

The last image of the post reads "Liebherr" on the luffing crane tip for 350 Mission. 535 Mission is the site that has a red Potain luffer from Bigge. Bigge may have recently acquired a Liebherr luffing into their inventory and/or their website may not be updated to reflect it. These Liebherr luffings don't seem to appear much on the West Coast; only saw one on 1918 Eighth in Seattle couple years ago prior to the two in SF that appeared this year. Perhaps there will be more luffings used in SF as the buildings get more crowded, like NYC with its numerous Favco Group luffings (there was one on the East Span Bay Bridge).

Hopeful to see some updates to these SF projects during the weekend and shoot some pics.

[minesweeper]

Regarding 2001 Market, it has a new name and address, 38 Dolores, and a website to go with it: http://38doloressf.com/

It looks like they are jumping on the bandwagon of trying to get the lucky number 8 in their address (http://davidprowler.wordpress.com/2013/08/08/the-right-address/).

[Jerry of San Fran]

Regarding 2001 Market, it has a new name and address, 38 Dolores, and a website to go with it: http://38doloressf.com/

It looks like they are jumping on the bandwagon of trying to get the lucky number 8 in their address (http://davidprowler.wordpress.com/2013/08/08/the-right-address/).

I did not know the number 8 was a lucky number. Maybe that is why I never hit it big in Las Vegas. I would think that a Market Street address would have been more desireable.

The web link advertises rental condos. Never heard that one before.

[IMBY]

I was on Emporis.com one nite, looking at the skyscrapers being built in China, and, puzzlingly, I saw a number of those skyscrapers are topped off at 88 stories, with a big spire on top! The Chinese/Asians have their superstition with numbers!

I read, one time, when the Bank of China tower (IM Pei) was built, the instructions were that there were to be no measurements in that building with 9's in them, and they hired a geomancer to find the right location for the building.

Here, in Las Vegas, catering ever more to Asians/Chinese, any number of the 4's have been removed from the hotel elevators. If you go take an elevator ride at the Wynn or the Palazzo, from 39, you skip all the way up to 50, bypassing the 4's. It's advertised as a 64 story hotel tower, but not so, it's only 54 stories!

Of course, we have our own superstitions with 13's, but, using numerology, 1 + 3 = 4! And going further with Astrology, 4 resonates to the sign Scorpio!

[theskythelimit]

I was on Emporis.com one nite, looking at the skyscrapers being built in China, and, puzzlingly, I saw a number of those skyscrapers are topped off at 88 stories, with a big spire on top! The Chinese/Asians have their superstition with numbers!

I read, one time, when the Bank of China tower (IM Pei) was built, the instructions were that there were to be no measurements in that building with 9's in them, and they hired a geomancer to find the right location for the building.

Here, in Las Vegas, catering ever more to Asians/Chinese, any number of the 4's have been removed from the hotel elevators. If you go take an elevator ride at the Wynn or the Palazzo, from 39, you skip all the way up to 50, bypassing the 4's. It's advertised as a 64 story hotel tower, but not so, it's only 54 stories!

Of course, we have our own superstitions with 13's, but, using numerology, 1 + 3 = 4! And going further with Astrology, 4 resonates to the sign Scorpio!

Just an FYI. The Chinese or Mandarin speakers in general do not like the number 4 is because pronouncing it sounds like the word Death.

[Jerry of San Fran]

IMBY - thanks for the info. about the numbers game - hysterical, my first laugh for the day! I'm like Dr. Spock on Star Trek, rational, and I find it all very puzzling. Humans!

[ElDuderino]

New video showing the future skyline. It includes all the new projects going up and proposed for the transbay terminal and rincon hill areas. Pretty cool...

70447799
http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/09/san_franciscos_future_transit_center_and_skyline_fully.html[/QUOTE]

[tall/awkward]

That video should win an Oscar for best short film!

[Busy Bee]

What is with all this Transbay Transit Center nonsense? Have they officially changed its name? What a way to screw up something good, Transbay Terminal had the colloquial permanence of the Gibraltar Rock, TTC just sounds like a Tampa bus station.

[peanut gallery]

Rincon Hill in general, and Fremont St and Folsom St in particular, will see massive improvement. And the overall effect on the skyline will be transformative. On the negative side, the floor of the terminal is seriously hideous. John King wrote yesterday that the funicular is out, to be replaced by gondolas. Didn't notice that reflected in the video however.

[mt_climber13]

What is with all this Transbay Transit Center nonsense? Have they officially changed its name? What a way to screw up something good, Transbay Terminal had the colloquial permanence of the Gibraltar Rock, TTC just sounds like a Tampa bus station.

Still sounds better than "bus stop," which is all it really is.

[Onn]

Rincon Hill in general, and Fremont St and Folsom St in particular, will see massive improvement. And the overall effect on the skyline will be transformative. On the negative side, the floor of the terminal is seriously hideous. John King wrote yesterday that the funicular is out, to be replaced by gondolas. Didn't notice that reflected in the video however.

The floor of the Transit Center does look bad, like third world country bad. San Francisco definitely does not need that. I was already disappointed that they took away the glass on the outside in exchange for the mesh. The place in turning into a disappointment after it had so much promise.

On the plus side, its good to see San Francisco growing again.

[Jerry of San Fran]

Today I see the last windows are going in on the top floor. Now we will see what the wind is like in the area long famous for fierce winds in the winter time. I will post a picture if I see any windows blow out!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3786/9735309552_ec0eb84029_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9735309552/)
Crescent Heights - 10th & Market Sts. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9735309552/) by Apollo's Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/antinous/), on Flickr

[Jerry of San Fran]

The concrete facing has been removed from the building and the structure is now ready for it's new glass face. 09/12/2013.

Also this week in the early morning hours I see Twitter installed a large sign with a clock on the corner of the building at Market & Ninth Streets.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7433/9735378998_cfa2fff93f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9735378998/)
Market Square - 10th Street Building (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9735378998/) by Apollo's Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/antinous/), on Flickr

[tech12]

Still sounds better than "bus stop," which is all it really is.

:rolleyes:

Well all it really is right now is a giant hole in the ground. But did the planned HSR and caltrain connections get secretly cancelled and only you know about it?

[mt_climber13]

:rolleyes:

Well all it really is right now is a giant hole in the ground. But did the planned HSR and caltrain connections get secretly cancelled and only you know about it?

Gentleman's bet- $100 the train station doesn't get built in our lifetimes.

Of course, if it ever were built, the US dollar will have been phased out by that time :haha:

Don't take yourselves too seriously SF.. it's ok to laugh at yourselves like the rest of us already do. I kid with love of course :)))

[tech12]

Gentleman's bet- $100 the train station doesn't get built in our lifetimes.

Of course, if it ever were built, the US dollar will have been phased out by that time :haha:

Don't take yourselves too seriously SF.. it's ok to laugh at yourselves like the rest of us already do. I kid with love of course :)))

Well yeah, it will be a long time before it gets built...but my $100 bet is that it will get built in our lifetimes. Hopefully I'm not completely senile by then :haha:

[easy as pie]

well, the caltrain extension into the transbay transit center using a good dose of hsr funds (because of shared alignment) is pretty much a certainty, though obviously the timeline is dicey.

[fimiak]

Some Transbay Transit Center (ugh) photos. If its not going to be Transbay Terminal, then I recommend Transbay Center at the very least. The same change was made from Fulton Transit Center to Fulton Center in NYC.

http://i.imgur.com/qQrswyvl.jpg (http://imgur.com/qQrswyv)

http://i.imgur.com/3z32wFFl.jpg (http://imgur.com/3z32wFF)

201 Folsom St
http://i.imgur.com/M5V2KpRl.jpg (http://imgur.com/M5V2KpR)

Finally, the Transbay Tower site as it stands now.
http://i.imgur.com/LocESonl.jpg (http://imgur.com/LocESon)

I wonder what is going to have more impact on the SF economy, the Central Subway or the Transit Center.

[coyotetrickster]

Gentleman's bet- $100 the train station doesn't get built in our lifetimes.

Of course, if it ever were built, the US dollar will have been phased out by that time :haha:

Don't take yourselves too seriously SF.. it's ok to laugh at yourselves like the rest of us already do. I kid with love of course :)))

The train station is built. That's what the deep excavation covered. Now, will there be tunnels for the trains to get to the platforms, that is the question.

[mt_climber13]

The train station is built. That's what the deep excavation covered. Now, will there be tunnels for the trains to get to the platforms, that is the question.

The train station is most definitely not built. They dug down for a train box, if that's what you mean, but there is in no way an operable train station down there. I don't even think the train box is built yet, as I remember there being discrepancies as to whether to build it in phase 1 or 2, but I haven't been following too closely.
Foundation means nothing. Just look at the Chicago Spire.
A new generation of citizens will have to come in and undo all the damage done by this degenerate crop of politicians that is literally crapping all over the future of the city with short sighted boosts to their ego. The train station, if built, is going to have so many tight turns and engineering flaws that trains will not even be able to operate properly, causing serious delays, and limited any sense of "high speed" rail service.

[tech12]

The train station, if built, is going to have so many tight turns and engineering flaws that trains will not even be able to operate properly, causing serious delays, and limited any sense of "high speed" rail service.

A couple tight turns on the first mile of track is not a problem. So the trains will have to move slow when first exiting/entering the station. So what? They wouldn't be picking up full speed that close to the station even if the track were completely straight. Not exactly the same as "not operating properly". The tight turns are a geographic necessity, and the trains can obviously handle them. Believe it or not but the people involved in this project (engineers, developers, planners, etc) are not complete idiots.

I don't even think the train box is built yet, as I remember there being discrepancies as to whether to build it in phase 1 or 2, but I haven't been following too closely...

It's part of phase 1:

"In May 2010 the Transbay Joint Powers Authority (TJPA)
Board adopted a $1.6 billion budget for Phase 1 (TTC, pedestrian ramps, and
the train box, which is the underground portion of the TTC building that will
house the Caltrain and high-speed rail station)."

http://www.sfcta.org/sites/default/files/content/CapitalProjects/images/Transbay/Transbay_fact_sheet_021313.pdf

[easy as pie]

The train station, if built, is going to have so many tight turns and engineering flaws that trains will not even be able to operate properly, causing serious delays, and limited any sense of "high speed" rail service.

because you're an engineer with intimate knowledge of the project.

[mt_climber13]

because you're an engineer with intimate knowledge of the project.

"Curve Radius. The 1.4-mile DTX features three extremely sharp curves that allow the tracks to conform as best they can to the San Francisco street grid. The minimum curve radius is just 500 feet (150 m), the sharpest allowable radius for European off-the-shelf trains, and too sharp for some Japanese high speed trains. In theory, such curves can be navigated at a maximum safe speed of 35 mph (55 km/h); in practice, slower speeds of 25 to 30 mph are likely. Regardless of the exact speed, such tight curves will elicit deafening screeches from the stiff, long-wheelbase bogies that are a technical necessity for high speed rail."

http://caltrain-hsr.blogspot.com/2009/03/focus-on-sf-transbay-transit-center.html

"The number of platforms is a potential issue a number of decades down the road, maybe. On the other hand, the poor design of the connection between the DTX tunnel and the platforms, the so-called "throat", is a real issue right now because Caltrain will also use the tunnel and downtown station. It's a bottleneck even an expensive three-track tunnel cannot fully resolve. Moreover, according to Clem, the current design of the DTX tunnel features curve radii so small that they effectively preclude the use of Japanese shinkansen train designs for the California system."

http://cahsr.blogspot.com/2009/04/transbay-terminal-redux.html

This HSR project is now already decades outdated without even having started construction. We will have to use outdated trains because of these curves. Just terminate HSR at the current 4th and King station, save a couple billion. It will probably be quicker to walk from there to the TBT anyway if you consider the trains stopping and waiting for each other because of the halt of speed, especially during rush hours. But, yes, I may be wrong. I am also concerned that BART or MUNI metro won't even connect to the new terminal, but there are plans to possibly connect an underground walkway from the Embarcadero Station. Moving walkways would be a cool idea in that case.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XbahXM_YRqg/Scmk_NFAp-I/AAAAAAAAAHc/f8zbUqnbtPQ/s1600/dtx_map.jpg
Image: http://caltrain-hsr.blogspot.com/2009/03/focus-on-sf-transbay-transit-center.html

[cv94117]

"Curve Radius. The 1.4-mile DTX features three extremely sharp curves that allow the tracks to conform as best they can to the San Francisco street grid. The minimum curve radius is just 500 feet (150 m), the sharpest allowable radius for European off-the-shelf trains, and too sharp for some Japanese high speed trains. In theory, such curves can be navigated at a maximum safe speed of 35 mph (55 km/h); in practice, slower speeds of 25 to 30 mph are likely. Regardless of the exact speed, such tight curves will elicit deafening screeches from the stiff, long-wheelbase bogies that are a technical necessity for high speed rail."

http://caltrain-hsr.blogspot.com/2009/03/focus-on-sf-transbay-transit-center.html

"The number of platforms is a potential issue a number of decades down the road, maybe. On the other hand, the poor design of the connection between the DTX tunnel and the platforms, the so-called "throat", is a real issue right now because Caltrain will also use the tunnel and downtown station. It's a bottleneck even an expensive three-track tunnel cannot fully resolve. Moreover, according to Clem, the current design of the DTX tunnel features curve radii so small that they effectively preclude the use of Japanese shinkansen train designs for the California system."

http://cahsr.blogspot.com/2009/04/transbay-terminal-redux.html

This HSR project is now already decades outdated without even having started construction. We will have to use outdated trains because of these curves. Just terminate HSR at the current 4th and King station, save a couple billion. It will probably be quicker to walk from there to the TBT anyway if you consider the trains stopping and waiting for each other because of the halt of speed, especially during rush hours. But, yes, I may be wrong. I am also concerned that BART or MUNI metro won't even connect to the new terminal, but there are plans to possibly connect an underground walkway from the Embarcadero Station. Moving walkways would be a cool idea in that case.



This is the problem with the Internet. You're quoting from a blog written by someone with a political axe to grind - not a technical expert - and you think it's fact. Furthermore the graphics you show are from an outdated design that has been modified (at great cost, but unneccesarily) to mollify allies of said blogger and move the project forward. The previous writer is right - the trains can easily handle the curves without any degradation of service at the speeds that they will need to be travelling to safely approach the station. This has been studied over and over again and validated by real experts.

[peanut gallery]

In other news, this beautiful piece of infill has been proposed for 1433 Bush St:

http://www.socketsite.com/1433%20Bush%20Street%20Rendering.jpg

As proposed, the one-story building at 1433 Bush between Polk Street and Van Ness Avenue which currently houses City Rent-A-Car will be razed, and in its place a 10-story building dubbed "Casa D'Ambroso" with 32 condos, 26 residential parking spaces and ground floor commercial will rise.

If approved by San Francisco's Planning Commission next week, City Rent-A-Car proposes to re-establish operations on the ground floor of the new building with offices and 3 parking spaces dedicated to their business. City Rent-A-Car's fleet of 140 cars would be stored off-site.

The design for the 115-foot tall building includes a central courtyard which would be watered in part by way of a rain water harvesting system while solar panels atop the building would help to power common area needs.

Source: SocketSite (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/09/designs_for_ten_new_polk_gulch_stories_and_a_nonformula.html)

Click the source for more details and several more renderings. Count me as a fan of this one. The massing and setbacks look great and I love the colors they've used. The stonework/tiling at street level and paneling that will cover the second floor parking area both look particularly good. I would love one of those penthouses.

[fimiak]

I really like 1433 Bush! The height and number of occupants is perfect. The fact that City Rent-a-Car is able to remain in the building (with an upgraded space) is icing on the cake. This to me represents the perfect example of new infill for SF.

[easy as pie]

yeah, except the totally unnecessary parking ingress on bush street, which only exists because a) they don't want to excavate for their parking and thus have had the architects rig up a ludicrous solution; and b) they want to stay above a .75 parking ratio on the project. i hope that planning approves the project conditional on the removal of the bush street parking ingress, otherwise, this thing is fantastic.

[mt_climber13]

This is the problem with the Internet. You're quoting from a blog written by someone with a political axe to grind - not a technical expert - and you think it's fact. Furthermore the graphics you show are from an outdated design that has been modified (at great cost, but unneccesarily) to mollify allies of said blogger and move the project forward. The previous writer is right - the trains can easily handle the curves without any degradation of service at the speeds that they will need to be travelling to safely approach the station. This has been studied over and over again and validated by real experts.

I would like to be proved wrong.. do you have any evidence you can give me? It's not like I despise San Francisco. I am a Bay Area native and consider SF the capital of the west (north of LA). I just get really passionate and worked up about all the short sightedness that goes on which destroys the functionality and livability of my favorite city.

[AndrewK]

yeah, except the totally unnecessary parking ingress on bush street, which only exists because a) they don't want to excavate for their parking and thus have had the architects rig up a ludicrous solution; and b) they want to stay above a .75 parking ratio on the project. i hope that planning approves the project conditional on the removal of the bush street parking ingress, otherwise, this thing is fantastic.

I cant say for certain, but it is possible that there is already construction underneath this building, hence their inability to dig down for parking. A long time ago there used to be a rave venue (called "the dungeon") underneath the krav maga building and those to the east, which was entirely below ground and had several rooms. At the very eastern end there was an ext onto the alley behind, but I cant remember exactly how close to Polk it was.

[easy as pie]

^ hm, interesting.

so, the ny times published an article (socketsite has a discussion of it) about the lucas museum proposal in the presidio. some description of the back and forth with the presidio trust idiots trying to grandstand and lucas just getting frustrated. but we get a couple images of his proposal:
http://i.imgur.com/BSb3oN8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tQCUUgf.jpg

normally, i'd scoff at a design like this, but in this context i love that he's doing something to restore the panama pacific expo beaux arts architecture so little of which survived.

[peanut gallery]

So I'm pulling into the Ferry Building when I spy a tower crane I don't recall being discussed on here:
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2827/9779075144_5bea66af00_b.jpg

And on the North side of the Financial District, no less?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7400/9778907341_29d260131d_b.jpg

Oh yeah, that affordable housing project (http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2013/05/30/whats_getting_built_at_broadway_and_sansome.php) at the old Embarcadero Freeway ramp on Broadway.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/9779106805_56984ce7a1_b.jpg

Forgot about that:
http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51a6c760f92ea10f140335ac/bs%20facade.jpg
Source: CurbedSF (http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2013/05/30/whats_getting_built_at_broadway_and_sansome.php)

255 Broadway is definitely under construction:
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2838/9779126544_131829cbda_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2838/9778878122_ac2ef701f9_b.jpg

[mt_climber13]

^ hm, interesting.

so, the ny times published an article (socketsite has a discussion of it) about the lucas museum proposal in the presidio. some description of the back and forth with the presidio trust idiots trying to grandstand and lucas just getting frustrated. but we get a couple images of his proposal:
http://i.imgur.com/BSb3oN8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tQCUUgf.jpg

normally, i'd scoff at a design like this, but in this context i love that he's doing something to restore the panama pacific expo beaux arts architecture so little of which survived.

Museum, or Best Western?? :yuck:


These other two design proposals from Socketsite (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/09/the_final_proposals_for_developing_the_presidios_former.html) look gorgeous:

http://www.socketsite.com/Presidio%20Commissary%20Site%20Presidio%20Exchage%20Proposal.jpg

http://www.socketsite.com/Presidio%20Commissary%20Site%20Bridge%20Proposal.jpg

[viewguysf]

Museum, or Best Western?? :yuck:

These other two design proposals look gorgeous:

In this case, I disagree with you and agree with easy as pie. You can see the entire Lucas proposal (and the others) on the Presidio website. Considering what George Lucas has already built in the Presidio and elsewhere, you can rest assured that this project would not be of Best Western quality.

[WonderlandPark]

The arched windows on the Lucas building look cheeeeeeeeepo. Of course these are renderings, the "fit and finish" better be top notch or else this really will be the 2 star Best Western Presidio. Good, really good historic knockoff/revival is very difficult to do these days and almost always comes off poor to middling. The old styles were built by true craftsmen, not a precast factory or cheap knockoff Malibu tile, and don't get me started on those cheap windows (these look cheap, cheap, and cheaper, bad windows are a pet peeve, but can make or break a building IMO).

[fflint]

I had business in the Letterman Digital Arts complex in the Presidio last week. It was my first time in there, and I walked the grounds as I was very close to Lucas' offices (saw the Yoda statue, it's funny but strangely dignified). Anyway, it's a high-quality complex. The architecture has good massing, proportions, and materials. The landscaping is also good. Considering his influence in this project, I'm confident Lucas isn't going to pay for a Best Western in the Presidio.

Anyway, I found a pic of the crane at the new St. Anthony's 10-story, 90-unit senior housing complex (http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2011/03/25/st_anthonys_foundation_gets_the_goahead.php) going up on Jones.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5442/9678851460_ebaa4787c5_b.jpg
source (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5442/9678851460_ebaa4787c5_b.jpg)

[mt_climber13]

Good, really good historic knockoff/revival is very difficult to do these days and almost always comes off poor to middling. The old styles were built by true craftsmen

^^this.

[jbm]

it looks like the wrap on the market st side of 1600 market has come off.

[Jerry of San Fran]

View from my window. It looks like the construction crane will be dismantled today, Saturday, 09/21/13. Light rain may delay cause a delay. I am pleasantly pleased with the building - I love the yellow & white panels. The building looks very nice from the street level. If only that were true a block away at Crescent Heights development.

There were several news stories about Mid Market being blighted but changing. I prefer to think of it as once being underutilized. And how is the city to deal with the hoards of bums and crazy people on the street? I get a crime report every day from CrimeMapping.com and it is not encouraging what I see happening in my neighborhood.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3675/9858511724_88f640822a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9858511724/)
AVA55Ninth - 55 9th St. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9858511724/) by Apollo's Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/antinous/), on Flickr

[Jerry of San Fran]

Later Saturday the red crane was moved, so my guess was wrong that the yellow construction crane was being dismantled.

[mt_climber13]

I like this photo from the Chron, it really hits home the amount of progress in the Mid Market neighborhood.
The article states that office rents have risen as well, after $2.4 billion in investment in the past two years:

http://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/Office-rents-rise-in-once-blighted-Mid-Market-4831120.php#photo-5212613

http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h446/walamesalad/a59da7ec9ec67de3913d76426f38b9db_zpsec0a1db9.jpg

[Jerry of San Fran]

Today the crane is being dismantled. These cranes amaze me and the dismantling is even more so.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3753/9879203974_12d34963f6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9879203974/)
AVA - 55 Ninth Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9879203974/) by Apollo's Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/antinous/), on Flickr

[Jerry of San Fran]

wakamesalad - by the end of the day the yellow crane in the Chronicle photo will be gone!

[MisterD]

I've been reading this forum for years, and decided I should probably start contributing at some point. So, since the weather today is incredible, I took a walk up Market after doing the farmers' market at UN Plaza. The progress on the Market (and just off-Market projects) is incredible. Here are some shots I grabbed along the walk.

1 - The Strand. This is supposed to begin rehab any day now, right?

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2807/9884214005_1a1503582a.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/9884217775_9f151d7a9a.jpg


2 - Trinity Place. Looks like no progress on Phase 3 - although I don't remember that big pit in the middle.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3731/9884222095_119e9628ce.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7353/9884227156_5ef3c1755d.jpg


3 - AVA. Back and front.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5460/9884229476_584ae3011f.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5543/9884234716_6ab97b4dfd.jpg


4 - Dolbyquarters. Not very exciting still, but they have a sign up in the lobby (looks temporary).

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5348/9884335023_fbf4a858f8.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7413/9884233306_24accd70e6.jpg


5 - Twitterquarters. It appears they have a sign on the building now - it's just covering the old "SF Mart" sign.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5522/9884242874_5809dcfefd.jpg


6 - AAA Tower. Some various angles. Looks like a couple sides have further to go than others.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5449/9884343233_d00f7b578c.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2847/9884260726_06e0494c1c.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/9884219784_17e2b4f9cb.jpg


7 - NEMA. This thing is getting pretty darned close to done.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3678/9884239905_e4e507a1e4.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5335/9884249234_968acd4626.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7456/9884258404_2c31d364be.jpg


8 - That new Daniel Patterson Restaurant (http://sf.eater.com/archives/2013/02/11/daniel_patterson_to_open_casual_spot_at_10th_and_market.php). So the Twitter kids have somewhere to eat.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3786/9884246866_5644179b1b.jpg


9 - The BMRs at Franklin and Market. I'm not sure I love this place. But it's way better than that crappy furniture or whatever store was there before.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3676/9884262736_7c59dd595c.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3743/9884265406_e9ea6cddf5.jpg


10 - 8 Octavia.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3753/9884370863_e92878c5d1.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5508/9884301615_de8b4b7a46.jpg


11 - Venn. Is it me, or is this taking a lot longer than most of the other projects in town?

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2884/9884372293_6a00e7fb81.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3783/9884268835_e4c84c8e93.jpg


12 - Linea. My favorite of the lot.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7335/9884377573_b1e65db480.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3820/9884380013_62250a399b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3715/9884382423_6e094fe79c.jpg


13 - 38 Dolores. I know there have been a lot of photos/conversations on this one, but thought I'd capture my own shots anyway.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7341/9884286934_30857c8245.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7404/9884285876_da5d7c2f0f.jpg


14 - Market/Sanchez/15th. Does this one have an official name yet?

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3754/9884294714_3cf842578a.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7456/9884292706_1bca508af5.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5328/9884398523_89252f0e3b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2848/9884297046_48e0909b95.jpg


15 - The Century. Boring at Market and Sanchez.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/9884289035_771d51f368.jpg

[MisterD]

On my way home, I walked through Hayes Valley as well. Lots of interesting stuff happening there as well these days.

1 - The former offramp/Hayes Valley Farm.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2855/9884412243_2252d92fe1.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2817/9884311156_10005b38d7.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3801/9884313646_4b6a3b5faa.jpg


2 - That condo building next to the Proxy Project. "Bigger, Faster, etc" is completely covered now.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5345/9884418823_b73ed38bda.jpg


3 - 300 Ivy. Can't wait for that parking lot in the foreground (http://hayeswire.com/2013/07/plans-revealed-for-450-hayes.html) to evolve.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3686/9884421443_01c75491eb.jpg

[Onn]

12 - Linea. My favorite of the lot.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3820/9884380013_62250a399b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3715/9884382423_6e094fe79c.jpg


An instant San Francisco modern classic right here! Love this design! :tup:

[fflint]

MisterD, thanks for the photo updates.

[Jerry of San Fran]

A view of the crane being dismantled. As of tonight, Sunday, the crane is gone!

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/9890965486_cf7775297c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9890965486/)
AVA, 55 Ninth Street (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9890965486/) by Apollo's Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/antinous/), on Flickr

[Jerry of San Fran]

Today, Sunday, workers were putting up scaffolding on the top of the building, so we may see some progress soon on the "crown"

MisterD - glad to see another contributor!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3712/9891170794_b837e73323_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9891170794/)
Sunday Sept. 22, 2013 - Crescent Heights Development (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/9891170794/) by Apollo's Light (http://www.flickr.com/people/antinous/), on Flickr

[timbad]

MisterD, you and I walked very overlapping paths today, and took very overlapping photos, which you have now saved me much time in already posting :) ... where I did stray from MisterD's route was on Fifth - this is what the projects near Folsom look like these days:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2835/9888894064_4fdba95004_b.jpg

just to add my own commentary to the Market and Hayes discussion:

- I think I am liking Linea better than I thought I would. I had been afraid it was going to look too 'cold'
- I don't mind the look of 38 Dolores as much as it seems most forumers do, and am thankful to have residential/store in place of the car-focused business that was there. looking forward to seeing how the neighborhood habits/patterns change with the additional residents (there and across the streets) and the new destination on that corner
- agree the BMRs at Franklin look plain, but at least better than what was there
- and agree on Venn - I keep thinking that giving it a couple more weeks surely will mean its surface will all be completed, and every time I walk by I am disappointed
- watching Octavia/Hayes Valley continue to evolve as the gash left by the freeway is stitched up and heals, is exciting

[simms3_redux]

Thanks MisterD and timbad. Timbad - I agree with your sentiments on both Linea and 38 Dolores, and Venn.

More photos from yesterday evening:

Work continues on the 222 Second site with more machinery and concrete mixers on-site:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/2222_zps13015b6e.jpg

45 Lansing is really coming together quickly now and I imagine it won't be long before they come out of this hole:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/45F1_zps17287006.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/45F2_zpsd2016bda.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/45F3_zpsa699f3e6.jpg


One Rincon Hill is still rising:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/ORH1_zpsd8372771.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/ORH3_zps47d594b3.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/ORH2_zps1f67bc23.jpg


Finally, 333 Fremont has made some visible exterior progress and they say move-in is in a couple months:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/333F_zps13266843.jpg


Building demo at 181 Fremont is progressing rapidly:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jsimms3/181F_zps27ab3a76.jpg

[POLA]

2 - Trinity Place. Looks like no progress on Phase 3 - although I don't remember that big pit in the middle.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3731/9884222095_119e9628ce.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7353/9884227156_5ef3c1755d.jpg


Trinity plans to use capital from the lease up of phase 2 to pay for phase 3, which means, don't expect to see any new buildings at this barren corner anytime soon. However, that big pit is probably the beginning of an underground parking garage that Trinity is proud to call "the largest underground parking lot in San Francisco." Ugh...

[tech12]

However, that big pit is probably the beginning of an underground parking garage that Trinity is proud to call "the largest underground parking lot in San Francisco." Ugh...

Well at least it's underground. Do you know how big it'll be exactly?

[WildCowboy]

Well at least it's underground. Do you know how big it'll be exactly?

I believe it's supposed to be close to 1500 cars.

[BushMan]

Trinity plans to use capital from the lease up of phase 2 to pay for phase 3, which means, don't expect to see any new buildings at this barren corner anytime soon. However, that big pit is probably the beginning of an underground parking garage that Trinity is proud to call "the largest underground parking lot in San Francisco." Ugh...

Many like to complain about new developments having "too much parking" but unfortunately until San Francisco provides viable transit options people will want cars and a place to park them.

I ride Bart, Muni and Caltrain extensively and all are seriously flawed. Bart is decent for what it provides but is virtually useless throughout much of the city. Muni is unreliable and many lines are ridiculously crowded, some are actually dangerous. Caltrain is regularly delayed by suicides on the tracks and other issues, plus it's only useful getting to and from the City.

Then there is the threat of transit strikes, of which we have a painful reminder looming in a couple of weeks.

You can't force people out of their cars (as SF politicos do with their mantra of "Transit First") and then not provide a decent alternative, we deserve better!

Of course I agree that surface lots are a definite no-no and I'm thrilled to see them disappearing in droves recently but if it's underground I couldn't care less how big it is.

[fimiak]

There seems to be a lot of people in Phase 2 already, if night time lights in apartments can be trusted. I would suggest over half is leased already.

Also, although this sounds barbaric, the more cars clog the streets, the more priority will be put on mass transit. Just play "Let Em In" by Paul McCartney and watch the chaos.

[CyberEric]

Does anyone know many of these new housing projects are going to be affordable housing?

[easy as pie]

72 townsend off an increasingly cool second st, but nearer to the horrible 1990s south beach stuff
http://i.imgur.com/AzkFwPZ.jpg
KB expects to start demolishing the interior of the warehouse in early October and start construction about three months later. The sales office is slated to open next summer and units will be ready for buyers in mid-2015.
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/real-estate/2013/09/kb-home-72-townsend-condo-south-beach.html

[POLA]

Many like to complain about new developments having "too much parking" but unfortunately until San Francisco provides viable transit options people will want cars and a place to park them.

Fair points, but I was talking about a the Trinity project, which sits on top of a muni underground and a BART stop, not to mention numerous bus lines and a trolly car. Also, Market street provides a one of the city's most used bike routes, contains thousands of taxi-cabs, pedi-cabs, and ubers. The "google" bus and the "apple bus" have stops blocks away, and you are within a 15 minute walk of the financial district. I think this corner has viable transit. Could it stand to be improved? Are some other parts of the city underserved? Sure. But that wasn't my point.