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IMBY
Oct 27, 2017, 9:16 AM
So that's why you're called viewguysf!

This photo would be much prettier with a dozen or more construction cranes in the air! What's with the slowdown in construction?

tech12
Oct 27, 2017, 11:22 PM
This photo would be much prettier with a dozen or more construction cranes in the air! What's with the slowdown in construction?

There are like 20+ high rise buildings proposed/approved/under construction that will eventually show up in that view, including some pretty tall ones. Half a dozen of them are in site prep (including a 910', 636', and 510 footer), and another handful are already under construction but not yet visible on the skyline (including towers at 605' and 575'). And the proposals include a few more 500'+ towers and an 800' tower.

edwards
Oct 29, 2017, 3:11 AM
325 Fremont

On the lot, there is a tombstone with a April 19, 2016 groundbreaking date engraved into it.

Anyone know when actual construction will start?

https://imgur.com/Runbev9h.jpg (https://imgur.com/a/WYyCI)

pseudolus
Oct 29, 2017, 5:24 AM
325 Fremont

On the lot, there is a tombstone with a April 19, 2016 groundbreaking date engraved into it.

Anyone know when actual construction will start?



As I said before, the building permit process is two steps. First is the so-called "site permit", which is pretty general, then there are the "addenda", which get into the detail. The site permit was filed 5/4/16 and approved 3/14/17. As of now, all the addenda are on hold.

181Fremont
Nov 5, 2017, 7:47 PM
Construction cam for the Jewish Home of San Francisco at Silver and Mission, the tower crane is expected to go up this month
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https://app.oxblue.com/open/cannon/jewishhomesanfrancisco

Jerry of San Fran
Nov 13, 2017, 10:46 PM
This weekend the crane (the last of two) was removed. The block between Polk & Van Ness Avenue on Hayes Street was closed for two days to accommodate the portable crane. This view is from the 24th floor of the (Essex) Fox Plaza

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4524/37629756234_977fe7aff5_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ZkdkwA)Crane Being Dismantled (https://flic.kr/p/ZkdkwA) by Apollo's Light (https://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/), on Flickr

pseudolus
Nov 14, 2017, 7:26 PM
On the Block 5 cam, I see a tower crane off in the distance (somewhere around SFMOMA) that appears not to have been there a few days ago. Anyone can confirm or not? Moscone expansion?

fimiak
Nov 15, 2017, 12:13 AM
Looks like Moscone Expansion to me.

gholgado
Nov 15, 2017, 3:30 PM
On the Block 5 cam, I see a tower crane off in the distance (somewhere around SFMOMA) that appears not to have been there a few days ago. Anyone can confirm or not? Moscone expansion?

http://webcampub.multivista.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=aPublicWebcam.embed&WebcamPublicEmbedUID=AB482E7E-E85B-40C6-A683-E07A446AF54D

pseudolus
Nov 15, 2017, 5:25 PM
http://webcampub.multivista.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=aPublicWebcam.embed&WebcamPublicEmbedUID=AB482E7E-E85B-40C6-A683-E07A446AF54D

Thanks so much!

Pedestrian
Nov 16, 2017, 6:30 AM
Exclusive: Will San Francisco's Armory trade bondage for posh Soho House social club?
By Katie Burke – Food/Hospitality/Retail Reporter, San Francisco Business Times
Nov 13, 2017, 12:11pm PST Updated a day ago

Sources familiar with the deal have confirmed that Soho House (https://www.sohohouse.com) will take over the 200,000-square-foot building at 1800 Mission St. . . . .

The Moorish castle-inspired building is zoned for urban mixed-use, which is a perfect fit for Soho House's typical potpourri of restaurants, workspaces, spas and bedrooms. If approved, San Francisco would be Soho's eighth North American outpost.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/11/13/soho-house-san-francisco-armory-prerogatives-kink.html?ana=twt

pseudolus
Nov 17, 2017, 4:07 AM
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/11/13/soho-house-san-francisco-armory-prerogatives-kink.html?ana=twt

Betteridge's law.

botoxic
Nov 21, 2017, 12:08 AM
SF's got a new look this holiday season! :yes: :cheers:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4582/37822443664_0b00f59e1b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ZCeUME)
Across The Bay (https://flic.kr/p/ZCeUME) by mikeSF_ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeoria/), on Flickr

colemonkee
Nov 21, 2017, 2:14 AM
^ Amazing!

gillynova
Nov 22, 2017, 12:18 AM
Big difference in skyline for SF 2016 vs. 2017. Can't wait for Oceanwide Center to be done too!

pseudolus
Nov 24, 2017, 6:20 PM
Here's a tidbit that got overlooked.

75 Howard, which had its site permit approved on Sept 28, 2016, finally coughed up the money to have that permit issued on Oct 25 of this year.

Of course, they still need to file for a bunch of other permits before construction can start.

http://dbiweb.sfgov.org/dbipts/default.aspx?page=Permit&PermitNumber=201604013681&Stepin=1

fimiak
Nov 26, 2017, 6:32 PM
The Powell & California condo project has begun. 44 units at 875 California. The parking lot is currently being torn up. This is a California St. postcard altering project.

http://hoodline.com/2016/04/planning-commission-expected-to-approve-44-condos-at-california-powell?utm_source=story&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=stories

https://hoodwork-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/story/image/18931/condo2.jpg

https://hoodwork-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/story/image/18927/2395_View_01_Entrance_HalfRes_Option_B_270316.jpg

1977
Nov 27, 2017, 5:14 AM
Good news, fimiak. Thanks for the info!

Also, this...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4539/38657755281_5a7cd82f7a_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21U46Q6)
The Calm Before the Storm (https://flic.kr/p/21U46Q6) by Louis Raphael (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/), on Flickr

CastleScott
Nov 27, 2017, 5:22 AM
^ Great pics guys-thanks!!:cheers:

Oh btw anyone been by Oceanwide lately? I bet the hole is getting hella deep by now.

1977
Nov 27, 2017, 5:36 AM
^ Great pics guys-thanks!!:cheers:

Oh btw anyone been by Oceanwide lately? I bet the hole is getting hella deep by now.

It's not, but they're still working around the clock:
The temporary overhead pedestrian safety protection will remain in place on the south side of Stevenson for the next week.

Oceanwide’s contractors will continue installation of the perimeter shoring wall on the First Street site immediately east of 1 Ecker. This work requires large steel beams to be delivered to the site for the next several weeks. The San Francisco Municipal Transit Agency (SFMTA) requires that all oversized deliveries occur between midnight and 5:00 am so the beams will be delivered during these hours. Every effort will be made to minimize the impacts to all neighbors during this time.

During the installation of the shoring wall, drilled pile work will continue to be performed 24 hours a day as we complete the installation of the deep foundations on the Mission Street site and transition over to the First Street site in the coming month.
http://www.swinertonwebcor.com/updates/

Webcam (https://app.oxblue.com/open/malcolmdrilling/oceanwide)

Pedestrian
Nov 27, 2017, 6:57 AM
Oh btw anyone been by Oceanwide lately? I bet the hole is getting hella deep by now.

You can keep tabs on the site yourself via the construction cam: https://app.oxblue.com/open/malcolmdrilling/oceanwide

They are not yet actually digging the foundation. They are pouring the caisons (pilings) which process will likely take at least a year. This requires drilling out a hole to bedrock, putting in place a rebar cage and filing the hole with concrete--and they are probably doing several hundreds of these.

I'm guessing they start digging the hole in the Spring.

CastleScott
Nov 28, 2017, 2:15 AM
^ Thanks for the info and link bro!!:tup:

1977
Nov 29, 2017, 1:58 AM
New 35 story tower proposed for Mid-Market:

Build, Vanke aim for 35-story residential tower on Mid-Market parking lot in San Francisco

Developer Build is working on a 35-story residential tower on a site that is now a surface parking lot in San Francisco owned by luxury retailer Nordstrom.

The developer submitted a proposal for a highrise designed by Solomon Cordwell Buenz that envisions 454 homes ranging from studios to three-bedrooms at 469 Stevenson St. between 5th and 6th streets.

“We believe there’s a chronic shortage of housing in the city and our business is building that housing,” said Lou Vasquez, head of Build.

Build negotiated an option for the property with Nordstrom, which put the site on the market last year, and signed on Chinese developer Vanke's U.S. division as the equity partner.

The project, which could cost between $200 million and $300 million to build, will be the first partnership for Build and Vanke, which has financed other projects in San Francisco such as Tishman Speyer’s Lumina condo project.

The 29,000-square-foot site, which Nordstrom has long-used for employee parking, is zoned for 336 units, but could go up to 454 using the state’s density bonus by including affordable housing. The total number of affordable units will depend on the income-level of the residents.
Source (https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/11/28/build-vanke-aim-for-35-story-residential-tower-on.html)

SocketSite has a blurb (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2017/11/proposed-mid-market-tower-newly-massed.html) about it as well.

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/469-Stevenson-Street-Tower-Massing-1.jpg

1977
Nov 29, 2017, 2:11 AM
Nice:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4533/38679464712_e72ac8212b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21VYnhC)
San Francisco at dawn from Corona Heights Park (https://flic.kr/p/21VYnhC) by obiwan-carter-71 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49511298@N04/), on Flickr

1977
Dec 6, 2017, 7:41 PM
It's official now:

502-Unit Phase 4 of Trinity Place in San Francisco Breaks Ground


Trinity Properties, founded by Angelo and Yvonne Sangiacomo in the early 1960s, has started construction on the fourth phase of the Trinity Place apartment complex in San Francisco. The newest phase of the complex is located at 1177 Market Street.

The property owner sees tremendous value in Trinity Plaza’s irreplaceable location. “It spans an entire side of 8th Street between Market and Mission, in the heart of San Francisco’s burgeoning Mid-Market district. It’s home to tech innovators including Twitter, Square and Uber. It is located within steps to BART and MUNI Civic Center stations, just one black from the EA and Google shuttle stops and is close to the 101 and 280 Freeway entrances. It’s across the street from the Orpheum Theater and close to the Westfield Shopping Center and Union Square. The phenomenal location and high-quality units and amenities allow residents working in San Francisco or elsewhere in the Bay Area the ability to enjoy all that San Francisco has to offer,” said James Goody, chief financial officer for Trinity Properties.

The initial work on Phase 4 was recently started. The expectation is that the new apartment complex will be open by June of 2021. There will be a total of 502 units in the complex with a mix of 1, 2 and 3-bedroom units developed over 17 stories. It will also have a three-story underground parking garage with 275 spaces and over 60,000 square feet of retail space.
Source: http://news.theregistrysf.com/502-unit-phase-4-trinity-place-san-francisco-breaks-ground/

Pedestrian
Dec 8, 2017, 11:52 PM
Luxury in No Man’s Land
Developers in competitive city markets are building in marginal neighborhoods and pitching their projects as the next big thing.
By Katy McLaughlin
Dec. 7, 2017 9:52 a.m. ET

One Oak, a 39-story condominium building proposed for San Francisco’s mid-Market Street neighborhood, plans to offer over 300 luxury condos in 2020. A 1,500-square-foot two bedroom within walking distance of the San Francisco Opera and Davies Symphony Hall will likely list for over $2.5 million.

For now, though, said developer Loring Sagan, the place “truly stinks.” The co-founder of San Francisco-based developer Build means this literally: “People defecate and urinate on our building site every day,” he said. One positive development: A nearby liquor store that sold vodka-by-the-shot recently closed, he noted.

Mr. Sagan’s goal—to help turn San Francisco’s mid-Market neighborhood, long characterized by a large homeless population, public drug consumption and dirty streets into a destination for upscale condo living—might seem quixotic. But developers in competitive urban real-estate markets in Los Angeles, Boston and New York are doing the same, building in seedy neighborhoods and industrial sites and pitching their projects as the next big thing in luxury living . . . .

Downtown developers will likely attract young people and empty nesters in addition to foreign buyers, Mr. Leipart said. Such buyers are often less sensitive to issues such as schools and playgrounds . . . .

For developers, one sign that an area will be appealing to condo buyers is when high-profile employers move in. For Mr. Sagan in San Francisco, when Twitter, Dolby and Uber set up offices in mid-Market “those were indications” that the area was ripe for condo development . . . .

When Tanya Fruehe, a 30-year-old executive assistant, moved with husband Zachary Wesley, a 32-year-old banker, from Orange County to San Francisco, mid-Market was “frightening,” she said.

Five years later, the couple rents a roughly $3,000-a-month one bedroom in Trinity Place, a rental development that will consist of 1,900 rental units when it is completed in 2020, said Walter Schmidt, executive managing director of developer Trinity Properties. Three rental buildings—a fourth is under construction—surround a 1-acre public plaza. Ms. Fruehe said the plaza, plus 24-hour security and more occupants in the area, make her feel safe . . . .


https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-hottest-new-hood-is-in-the-wrong-part-of-town-1512658346

Pedestrian
Dec 8, 2017, 11:57 PM
Developers Tell Condo Buyers: You Don’t Need To Bring Your Car
By Alina Dizik
Dec. 7, 2017 10:12 a.m. ET

At Lumina, a 42-story condo building in San Francisco, homeowners pay anywhere from $900,000 to $15 million for a luxury residence with a one-car limit per unit. Alternatively, homeowners can ditch the car, get a credit of $10,000 and rent one of the building’s eight luxury cars when the need arises.

The developer, Tishman Speyer, partnered with Audi on a pilot program called Audi at Home, in which residents can use an app to rent one of the building’s eight luxury vehicles parked near the valet area. Rates run from $12 to $22 per hour, and the fleet gets about 100 rentals per month . . .

Luxury developers are increasingly offering car-rental and car-sharing services, as well as creative parking solutions to their residents. Touted as an amenity to upscale buyers, these services benefit developers, too, since they reduce the size of parking garages and lower building costs.

“For developers, it’s a drain on economics” to build parking garages, says Todd Runkle, an Austin-based principal at global design firm Gensler, which specializes in commercial development. “We are in a transitory period to see how much we can reduce parking.”

Gensler is also designing some parking structures with level floor slabs that can more easily to convert to office space or residential living spaces once parking ramps are removed, he adds . . . .


https://www.wsj.com/articles/developers-tell-condo-buyers-you-dont-need-to-bring-your-car-1512659525

My now decades old condo building has 3 or 4 Zipcars in its parking garage and I use them when I need a car. There are also other Zipcars in nearby buildings.

jd3189
Dec 9, 2017, 12:52 AM
Nice:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4533/38679464712_e72ac8212b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21VYnhC)
San Francisco at dawn from Corona Heights Park (https://flic.kr/p/21VYnhC) by obiwan-carter-71 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49511298@N04/), on Flickr

A nice hazy morning. Very surreal.

timbad
Dec 9, 2017, 7:24 AM
in Dogpatch...

the southern section of the southern Indiana project has been mostly uncovered

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4550/38000497375_a56d93c8eb_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4572/38000499025_4824eec224_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4547/38000500505_4c73d19741_b.jpg

SE corner of 20th and Tennessee

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/38000473825_fd0c5e0df3_b.jpg

815 Tennessee

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4560/38000462555_4545d37211_b.jpg

across 19th St from the previous development

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4561/38171744644_fa776508fc_b.jpg

a block to the east, at 19th and Third, nothing going on yet after demolition some weeks ago

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4566/38171748494_4b2f38cf84_b.jpg

the little one on Mariposa and Tennessee

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4549/38000472405_c085516c13_b.jpg

nearby, the east slope of Potrero Hill

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4532/38000470735_55c0e82b55_b.jpg

south slope of Potrero Hill, Rebuild Potrero

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4540/38887299961_685f9c82c5_b.jpg

elsewhere, the office building on Brannan near Fourth, turning out better than I had expected

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4518/38171684444_bc2b681461_b.jpg

hotel, Third and Townsend

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4557/38171857674_ac99d7307d_b.jpg

office building, Sixth and Townsend, also looking good

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4533/38887296761_8f8420a07f_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4581/38887298111_130cb27952_b.jpg

starting to think 100 Hooper is not going to be too attractive

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4543/38887299401_2af5ea84fb_b.jpg

pseudolus
Dec 9, 2017, 6:16 PM
in Dogpatch...

the southern section of the southern Indiana project has been mostly uncovered


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4547/38000500505_4c73d19741_b.jpg


starting to think 100 Hooper is not going to be too attractive

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4543/38887299401_2af5ea84fb_b.jpg

these are way too horizontal. so much for fine-grained urbanism. btw, wb

Pedestrian
Dec 9, 2017, 7:27 PM
these are way too horizontal. so much for fine-grained urbanism. btw, wb

Heck, IMHO everything south of ATT Park looks like it belongs in Pleasanton but it is what it is: A massive lost opportunity for an amazing amount of badly needed housing and architecturally interesting commercial space.

viewguysf
Dec 9, 2017, 9:45 PM
Heck, IMHO everything south of ATT Park looks like it belongs in Pleasanton but it is what it is: A massive lost opportunity for an amazing amount of badly needed housing and architecturally interesting commercial space.

Let’s not forget the truly world class medical center and hospital though and be thankful that UCSF decided to locate their second major campus here instead of in the East Bay.

Everyone also seems to forget that without basements, mechanical systems were located on first floors, a point discussed now long ago. That’s not to say I’m happy with many horizontal boxes, but all in all, Mission Bay contributed mightily to the City.

timbad
Dec 10, 2017, 7:37 AM
crane going up at former Flax site (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2016/03/the-flax-site-scoop.html) on Market at Valencia

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4566/38235927084_e26e4f2633_b.jpg

Jerry of San Fran
Dec 10, 2017, 10:43 AM
Work has begun on a new building at 75-95 Laguna St. (at Hermann) that will create 78 units of affordable housing, with low-income LGBT seniors in mind.

The building, called The Openhouse Community, will rise next to 55 Laguna
I am so glad that the old school buildings have been remodeled & incorporated in this full block development. I'm always happy to see nice old architecture retained.

This photo I took a couple of days ago.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4526/38918892592_e4ed9b3cd8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22i8uRw)75-95 Laguna Street, San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/22i8uRw) by Apollo's Light (https://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/), on Flickr

This photo is from the Openhouse web site.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4680/24090516397_066a25e23d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CGNcdZ)Openhouse-95 laguna (https://flic.kr/p/CGNcdZ) by Apollo's Light (https://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/), on Flickr

Pedestrian
Dec 10, 2017, 5:40 PM
Work has begun on a new building at 75-95 Laguna St. (at Hermann) that will create 78 units of affordable housing, with low-income LGBT seniors in mind.

The building, called The Openhouse Community, will rise next to 55 Laguna
I am so glad that the old school buildings have been remodeled & incorporated in this full block development. I'm always happy to see nice old architecture retained.


I keep asking myself: "Self, as a senior living in San Francisco, a town where gay people are far from isolated and have no need to hide, would you want to live in what amounts to a gay ghetto?"

Why do we need these projects for subsets of the senior population? Why can't senior housing be for all seniors (there is an argument to be made that poor seniors don't fare well in mixed public housing and are sometimes preyed on by younger residents so housing just for seniors probably is needed)?

pseudolus
Dec 10, 2017, 7:08 PM
I keep asking myself: "Self, as a senior living in San Francisco, a town where gay people are far from isolated and have no need to hide, would you want to live in what amounts to a gay ghetto?"

My answer would be, "Yes I do."

timbad
Dec 10, 2017, 8:36 PM
a couple random ones I forgot

the little one on Franklin near Market

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4645/38235923014_8da9c282a9_b.jpg

and 1601 Mariposa (http://1601mariposa.com/design/before-and-after-renderings/) on the north slope of Potrero Hill looks like it has finally moved to construction

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4589/38951837691_c463949314_b.jpg

viewguysf
Dec 11, 2017, 8:57 AM
My answer would be, "Yes I do."

Mine too!

There has been much written about the plight of single, older LGBT people in the City since many are without adequate support systems now.

Pedestrian
Dec 11, 2017, 6:04 PM
Mine too!

There has been much written about the plight of single, older LGBT people in the City since many are without adequate support systems now.

Well, I fit all those criteria and my answer is "no". Facilities with "services" for older people including a contingent of gays reflective of the SF demographic is fine. But I've never wanted--and can't see myself ever wanting--to associate exclusively with gay people or live in a building full of nothing but . . . .

ozone
Dec 11, 2017, 6:10 PM
I keep asking myself: "Self, as a senior living in San Francisco, a town where gay people are far from isolated and have no need to hide, would you want to live in what amounts to a gay ghetto?"

Why do we need these projects for subsets of the senior population? Why can't senior housing be for all seniors (there is an argument to be made that poor seniors don't fare well in mixed public housing and are sometimes preyed on by younger residents so housing just for seniors probably is needed)?


My 20-something nephew, who lives in the City, recently told me about a 70+ old homophobic man he does work for. Sadly, even in San Francisco those old prejudices remain. So to answer your question. There apparently is still a need for LGBT senior housing, especially since they are sharing community with others of similar socio-economic status and societal conditioning. Bully for you if you haven't been on the receiving end of discrimination or aren't at the mercy of those who would treat you different. Of course, our personal experience doesn't mimic others.

viewguysf
Dec 11, 2017, 6:31 PM
Well, I fit all those criteria and my answer is "no". Facilities with "services" for older people including a contingent of gays reflective of the SF demographic is fine. But I've never wanted--and can't see myself ever wanting--to associate exclusively with gay people or live in a building full of nothing but . . . .

I think you could imagine it much better if you weren't fortunate enough to own your own condo, lived in a rent or eviction precarious situation, could no longer negotiate stairs or whatever in your home, etc. Many people who came here in the 70s to escape oppression now find themselves in danger of being forced out of the only city they've know and loved for all of their adult lives. The difference with many LGBT seniors is that they often don't have a family or other support network. It's also about empathy and wanting (or being able) to comprehend other's situations, desires, ideas, needs, fears, and so forth.

I also see this as applying to those wanting to maintain our common quality of life here in a myriad of ways.

pseudolus
Dec 11, 2017, 6:37 PM
I think you could imagine it much better if you weren't fortunate enough to own your own condo, lived in a rent or eviction precarious situation, could no longer negotiate stairs or whatever in your home, etc. Many people who came here in the 70s to escape oppression now find themselves in danger of being forced out of the only city they've know and loved for all of their adult lives. The difference with many LGBT seniors is that they often don't have a family or other support network. It's also about empathy and wanting (or being able) to comprehend other's situations, desires, ideas, needs, fears, and so forth.

I also see this as applying to those wanting to maintain our common quality of life here in a myriad of ways.

well said

Pedestrian
Dec 11, 2017, 6:53 PM
I think you could imagine it much better if you weren't fortunate enough to own your own condo, lived in a rent or eviction precarious situation, could no longer negotiate stairs or whatever in your home, etc. Many people who came here in the 70s to escape oppression now find themselves in danger of being forced out of the only city they've know and loved for all of their adult lives. The difference with many LGBT seniors is that they often don't have a family or other support network. It's also about empathy and wanting (or being able) to comprehend other's situations, desires, ideas, needs, fears, and so forth.

I also see this as applying to those wanting to maintain our common quality of life here in a myriad of ways.

I fully support--and said I support--senior housing that's inclusive of all senior demographics and meets all the needs you talked about. But I see no need for exclusively gay housing and would personally find it oppressive. In case you haven't noticed, gay people can be "bitchy" toward each other so that's no guarantee of empathy or neighorly support.

ozone
Dec 12, 2017, 3:43 PM
I fully support--and said I support--senior housing that's inclusive of all senior demographics and meets all the needs you talked about. But I see no need for exclusively gay housing and would personally find it oppressive. In case you haven't noticed, gay people can be "bitchy" toward each other so that's no guarantee of empathy or neighorly support.

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

coyotetrickster
Dec 12, 2017, 4:10 PM
I keep asking myself: "Self, as a senior living in San Francisco, a town where gay people are far from isolated and have no need to hide, would you want to live in what amounts to a gay ghetto?"

Why do we need these projects for subsets of the senior population? Why can't senior housing be for all seniors (there is an argument to be made that poor seniors don't fare well in mixed public housing and are sometimes preyed on by younger residents so housing just for seniors probably is needed)?


Dude, I can't believe you are this clueless. First, the city has already been around the proverbial block regarding fair housing laws, and it lost. The project will provide preference to neighborhood residences, but it cannot, by law, exclude other senior citizens who are not gay or lesbian (if you are questioning by 65, you are pretty much a lost cause). However, due to the neighborhood preference component, a majority of the residents will be gay.

For many out gay men and women, being elderly ends up with a re-closeting. This is due to a myriad of reasons and may be harmful. The fact is, queer spaces are needed across the entire age spectrum. While social hour might be a bit cattier than those in ma and pa's assisted living community, these are elderly residents who deserve care in their final years, and to be able to stay in the place that is their home.

homebucket
Dec 12, 2017, 4:47 PM
San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee dead at 65 (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/San-Francisco-Mayor-Ed-Lee-dead-at-65-12423708.php)

Sad news this morning. Sounds like he did a lot for the city, from the early days where he fought for low-income minorities to modern era, where he helped see the revitalization of the tech industry and the return of the Warriors to San Francisco.

1977
Dec 12, 2017, 5:50 PM
The Powell & California condo project has begun. 44 units at 875 California. The parking lot is currently being torn up. This is a California St. postcard altering project.

http://hoodline.com/2016/04/planning-commission-expected-to-approve-44-condos-at-california-powell?utm_source=story&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=stories

https://hoodwork-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/story/image/18931/condo2.jpg

https://hoodwork-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/story/image/18927/2395_View_01_Entrance_HalfRes_Option_B_270316.jpg

Found this on Flickr:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4598/27231437969_8a93d01b3e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HumeMc)
Powell Street (https://flic.kr/p/HumeMc) by Liji Jinaraj (https://www.flickr.com/photos/karmadude/), on Flickr

Pedestrian
Dec 12, 2017, 6:15 PM
Dude, I can't believe you are this clueless . . .

For many out gay men and women, being elderly ends up with a re-closeting. This is due to a myriad of reasons and may be harmful. The fact is, queer spaces are needed across the entire age spectrum. While social hour might be a bit cattier than those in ma and pa's assisted living community, these are elderly residents who deserve care in their final years, and to be able to stay in the place that is their home.

First of all, thank you for calling me "dude". I recently had a conversation wth someone about whether a 72 year old white guy can be a "dude" and I guess I can be.

Second, "clueless" often means not in sync with the prevailing "progressivism" in San Francisco and I take your accusation in that light. I know I am not and haven't been for 40 years. But the city is all about "diversity", no?

What do you actually know about "the elderly"? In as much as I am one as are most of my friends (relics of gay San Francisco's golden age, all of us), I have to suspect I am more in tune with their needs and wants than you may be so no lectures on the subject, please.

Here's to you, dude.

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

No, I think it's a very widespread problem.

Pedestrian
Dec 12, 2017, 6:20 PM
San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee dead at 65 (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/San-Francisco-Mayor-Ed-Lee-dead-at-65-12423708.php)

Sad news this morning. Sounds like he did a lot for the city, from the early days where he fought for low-income minorities to modern era, where he helped see the revitalization of the tech industry and the return of the Warriors to San Francisco.

It's not as bad as it could be. Apparently London Breed, who, as it happens, was my supervisor, will be Mayor. While not a booster of development like Ed Lee, she's not aggressively hostile to it.

There are several members of the Board of Supervisors who would have been much, much worse. I'm looking at YOU, Jane Kim, and YOU Aaron Peskin.

Jerry of San Fran
Dec 13, 2017, 1:01 AM
In reference to Pedestrian's query/comment: the reason for a need for housing is

1) LGBT seniors are often shunned in mixed communities & discriminated against.

2) The fact is that other groups of people have gotten preferential treatment in public housing in San Francisco leaving LGBT seniors out.

I should point out the fact that the new housing mentioned is being built for a specific community, but the housing cannot be discriminatory. In spite of the concern that a certain racial/ethnic group would outnumber the LGBT numbers that did not happen - maybe that is a sign of prejudice that it did not happen.

Housing for an affinity group will not appeal to everyone (not everyone wants to live in a nudist friendly community for seniors).

colemonkee
Dec 13, 2017, 2:16 AM
If they use the right materials and finishes, Powell & California could end up looking quite nice.

timbad
Dec 17, 2017, 9:26 AM
crane going up on east slope of Potrero Hill (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2016/07/revised-designs-for-the-development-to-transform-potreros-east-slope.html)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4682/25233960198_47bc186fb7_b.jpg

hotel, Third and Townsend. also noticed the Happy Donuts down the street had been gutted; not sure what’s going on there.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4738/25233962648_2698703b17_b.jpg

Mission, near Seventh

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4647/38218332495_089fa5f7ce_b.jpg

Seventh, near Mission

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4589/25233988238_e759ea4ae6_b.jpg

99 Rausch (Folsom near Seventh) looking done

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4725/25233990408_7262c0f9fe_b.jpg

Eighth St end of 855 Brannan, starting to wrap up, on the outside, anyway

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4691/39100133111_94f3019ea6_b.jpg

the existing skyline view from Potrero Hill. SF building well placed for them

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4728/25233958548_fc267db381_b.jpg

SLO
Dec 18, 2017, 2:30 AM
^^^terrific shots

timbad
Dec 23, 2017, 8:33 PM
foot of Potrero Hill, north side, looking NE on 17th St at Arkansas at two projects underway (88 Arkansas (https://sf.curbed.com/2016/5/19/11716494/88-arkansas-potrero-apartments) in the foreground)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4591/38537973084_64ac21aa91_b.jpg

and a couple blocks away, a better overview of the massive project across from Anchor Brewery at 1601 Mariposa (http://1601mariposa.com/design/before-and-after-renderings/)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4687/38537969454_353b3dfae3_b.jpg

view of Florida St side of block between Florida and Bryant St at 18th, which I think is this (http://medasf.org/programs/community-real-estate/681-florida/) and this (https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/us/2070-bryant-street)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4688/39245569051_af5bd2221f_b.jpg

the view from Diamond Heights (Laidley St)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4642/39217214342_e45ebb757e_b.jpg

Jerry of San Fran
Dec 24, 2017, 11:19 PM
The east side of 150 Van Ness Ave. is now revealed. It looks good. I would have liked to have seen a more exciting skin color. I have not been on the Hayes St. side yet & will post a photo unless someone gets there first.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4684/39242275672_55fc7c435c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22MGVnS)150 Van Ness Avenue - east side (https://flic.kr/p/22MGVnS) by Apollo's Light (https://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4739/39242102112_b99d64339a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22MG2Ms)150 s (https://flic.kr/p/22MG2Ms) by Apollo's Light (https://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/), on Flickr

dmncbrm
Dec 25, 2017, 5:14 AM
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4684/39295413872_9ddba76b25_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/22SpgvJ)IMG_0481 (https://flic.kr/p/22SpgvJ) by Dominica Broom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/95905638@N07/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4596/25455634078_02d957c996_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EMqM9J)IMG_0482 (https://flic.kr/p/EMqM9J) by Dominica Broom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/95905638@N07/), on Flickr

1500 Mission St. I think?

Excited to see it grow.

Jerry of San Fran
Dec 27, 2017, 6:42 AM
dmncbrm - a great view of the the site! Yes, it is 1500-1580 Mission Street. Hopefully we will get many more of the construction site in the coming year.

homebucket
Dec 27, 2017, 6:12 PM
SF tower providing a nice peak to the skyline
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4685/38458137545_e2c7757b34_b.jpg

botoxic
Dec 30, 2017, 2:26 AM
from SocketSite (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2017/12/the-central-story-for-san-francisco-in-2018.html):

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/725-Harrison-Rendering-2017.jpg

The proposed development to rise at Fourth and Harrison has been redesigned by HOK for Boston Properties, incorporating a more curvilinear approach which would rise up to a height of 185 feet and yield 765,600 square feet of office space; 34,500 square feet of “modern” Production, Distribution and Repair (PDR) space on the ground floor; 16,100 square feet of publicly accessible open space (POPOS); 4,000 square feet of retail; and a basement garage for a few hundred cars.

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/725-Harrison-Rendering-2017-Context.jpg

The aforementioned POPOS includes a mid-block paseo between Harrison and Perry. And in an effort to pave the way for the project’s approval, the project team is positioning to dedicate 15,000 square feet of the project’s land on the eastern side of the paseo for the development of an affordable housing project.

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/725-Harrison-Rendering-2017-Paseo.jpg

And then there’s the much bigger story, which is key to the proposed development of 725 Harrison Street but in the context of which the Harrison Street project actually plays a bit part: San Francisco’s Central SoMa Plan.

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/725-Harrison-Rendering-Context-with-Central-SoMa-Fully-Massed.jpg

If approved as proposed and massed at full build-out above, the adoption of the Central SoMa Plan would allow for the development of new office space for up to 45,000 workers and 7,500 units of housing to rise up to 400-ish feet in height in the area roughly bounded by Folsom, Second, Townsend and Sixth Streets.

And while San Francisco’s Proposition M currently limits the amount of office space allowed to be built in the city each year, a proposed ballot measure which is about to start gathering signatures would allow qualifying office developments in Central SoMa to evenly amortize their total square-footage over a ten-year period versus in the year when the projects are approved.

In terms of timing, while the schedule has slipped, the approval process is formally underway and San Francisco’s Planning Department is now anticipating that the Central SoMa Plan should be ready for adoption by San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors in the Spring of 2018.

Link (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2017/12/the-central-story-for-san-francisco-in-2018.html)

Pedestrian
Dec 30, 2017, 7:03 PM
In reference to Pedestrian's query/comment: the reason for a need for housing is

1) LGBT seniors are often shunned in mixed communities & discriminated against.

2) The fact is that other groups of people have gotten preferential treatment in public housing in San Francisco leaving LGBT seniors out.

I should point out the fact that the new housing mentioned is being built for a specific community, but the housing cannot be discriminatory. In spite of the concern that a certain racial/ethnic group would outnumber the LGBT numbers that did not happen - maybe that is a sign of prejudice that it did not happen.

Housing for an affinity group will not appeal to everyone (not everyone wants to live in a nudist friendly community for seniors).

I will remind that my original question had to do with whether those here would want to live in it, not all the other issues raised by other people.

I myself don't want to be isolated in a supposedly compatible demographic group (as determined by social engineeers) and I thought in San Francisco we thought we were about "diversity". No diversity in housing for "specific communities".

1977
Dec 31, 2017, 12:41 AM
Here is another project (655 4th Street) that is relying on the approval of the Central SOMA Plan (http://sf-planning.org/central-soma-plan).

These are being designed by Bjarke Ingels Group aka BIG (https://www.big.dk/). The early design looks pretty interesting and I like the plaza and courtyard ringed by retail - we'll see how it evolves.


http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/655-4th-Street-Rendering.jpg

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/655-4th-Street-Site-Plan.jpg
Source (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2017/12/detailed-plans-for-a-pair-of-modern-soma-towers-revealed.html) and more info at SocketSite

Developer Tishman Speyer wants to build up to 907 apartments in two towers designed by Danish starachitect Bjarke Ingels Group at 655 4th St.

The proposed $540 million project envisions two 400-foot-tall towers along with about 26,600 square feet of commercial and retail space. Reaching those heights requires the city to approve the Central Soma Plan, a long-awaited upzoning plan along the path of a new light-rail track extension from Union Square to the 4th and King Station.

Source and article (https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/12/29/tishman-speyer-4th-townsend-san-francisco-housing.html) by the SF Business Times

Fvn
Dec 31, 2017, 9:31 PM
Here is another project (655 4th Street) that is relying on the approval of the Central SOMA Plan (http://sf-planning.org/central-soma-plan).

These are being designed by Bjarke Ingels Group aka BIG (https://www.big.dk/). The early design looks pretty interesting and I like the plaza and courtyard ringed by retail - we'll see how it evolves.


http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/655-4th-Street-Rendering.jpg

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/655-4th-Street-Site-Plan.jpg
Source (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2017/12/detailed-plans-for-a-pair-of-modern-soma-towers-revealed.html) and more info at SocketSite



Source and article (https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/12/29/tishman-speyer-4th-townsend-san-francisco-housing.html) by the SF Business Times

another double tower'd development from tishman speyer

homebucket
Dec 31, 2017, 10:06 PM
Hard to judge this one when the rendering is in black and white. Massing is a bit too blocky, imo. I'd prefer more slender towers, and preferably clad with glass.

fimiak
Jan 1, 2018, 12:16 AM
I love the massing and the design of it. Developers and Architects are growing bold in SF and I couldn't be more happy. Having lived in an 'all glass' building, I think the quality of life is inferior (there is such a thing as too much light, too much sun..facing West in 100 Van Ness is blinding for several hours every day). This will be the second largest development in San Francisco in terms of units created, after Trinity Place.

ozone
Jan 1, 2018, 10:29 AM
The idea that San Francisco is "diverse" is laughable. Anyone who dares to stray from the prevailing "progressive" groupthink is outcast as a Nazi, a homophobe, or any number of other ridiculous slurs that have no basis in reality.

It's a real shame because there are still many wonderful things about this town but the arrogance and intolerance of many its denizens are not among them.

Maybe it’s time for you to move? I have a number of friends in the city who are frustrated and weary. I left for Sacramento a few years ago and haven’t regretted that move. No it’s not San Francisco (few places are) but my quality of life and bank account is much better off.

Boss-ton
Jan 3, 2018, 1:36 AM
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/San-Francisco-Skyline-Rendering-2017-West.jpg

gillynova
Jan 3, 2018, 8:51 PM
http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/San-Francisco-Skyline-Rendering-2017-West.jpg

I honestly cannot wait for this to be completed. The skyline in the 2020's will be a whole lot different. I'm eager to see how it will look like from Twin Peaks, Treasure Island and coming off 101.

homebucket
Jan 3, 2018, 9:33 PM
It is a shame 181 Fremont will be covered up partially by Park Tower though, at least from the Bay Bridge/TI views. Would've been nice if it got built up to its originally proposed height of 900 ft! Or swapped places with Park Tower.

1977
Jan 3, 2018, 10:54 PM
I really hope this happens this year. Would be great to see some real activity on the west side of the city:

From the SF Business Times (https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/01/03/sf-parkmerced-development-housing-construction-som.html)
S.F. megaproject Parkmerced to break ground on first of 5,679 new units

The developer behind San Francisco's Parkmerced megaproject expects to start construction on the first new buildings in the first half of this year. Parkmerced Investors LLC plans to break ground on nearly 1,000 units after months of permitting delays.

The 152-acre development, approved seven years ago, calls for 5,679 total new units. That's the most new housing ever built in a single project on the city's west side. Parkmerced already has 3,221 apartments, and 1,538 existing rent-controlled units in the project will be replaced. Fifteen percent of the new units will be affordable.

"Site permits are being finalized and we’re gearing up for an anticipated construction start in the first half of 2018. We look forward to making great strides toward our goal of transforming Parkmerced into a vibrant 'eco-neighborhood,' as well as doing a large part to make the late Mayor Ed Lee’s goal of building 30,000 new homes a reality," said P.J. Johnston, a developer spokesman.

Building permits were approved in December, but not yet issued, for three residential parcels, according to city records:

1208 Junipero Serra Blvd., a 299-unit, 17-story tower with an estimated construction cost of $131 million. Kwan Henmi is the architect.

455 Serrano Drive, a 248-unit, 11-story building with an estimated construction cost of $91.5 million. Woods Bagot is the architect.

300 Arballo Drive, an 89-unit, eight-story building with an estimated construction cost of $31 million. LMS Architects designed the building.

1208 Junipero Serra Blvd
https://parkmercedvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/timeline_2021.jpg
https://parkmercedvision.com

455 Serrano Drive
https://www.bdcnetwork.com/sites/default/files/body-images/455-serrano.png
https://www.bdcnetwork.com/designs-revealed-new-multifamily-residences-san-franciscos-west-side-0

300 Arballo Drive
https://parkmercedvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/16.06.15-Rendering-300-Arballo-Bldg-Hero-Shot-copy.jpg
https://parkmercedvision.com

pseudolus
Jan 4, 2018, 5:55 AM
I really hope this happens this year. Would be great to see some real activity on the west side of the city

This is not a popular opinion to have, I'm guessing, but I am not enthusiastic about this one. This is as far as you can get from the major job center and still be in the city. It destroys Tommy Church's gardens and the charming townhouses, while sparing the commie block towers that were added later. It will almost certainly be entirely car dependent, even after the city spends billions to convert a short segment of the M from an exclusive right-of-way to underground.

Just a huge mistake, all around.

Flame away.

timbad
Jan 4, 2018, 9:56 AM
This is not a popular opinion to have, I'm guessing, but I am not enthusiastic about this one. This is as far as you can get from the major job center and still be in the city. It destroys Tommy Church's gardens and the charming townhouses, while sparing the commie block towers that were added later. It will almost certainly be entirely car dependent, even after the city spends billions to convert a short segment of the M from an exclusive right-of-way to underground.

Just a huge mistake, all around.

Flame away.

I'm actually at least partially, maybe substantially, in agreement. wish the towers were going instead of the garden apartments, and don't like what I perceive to be a somewhat haphazard disruption of the look and pattern of PM (tho I admit it's been a while since I've looked at the plans).

I'm a bit more hopeful that people will use the M once it is diverted into the complex itself.

pizzaguy
Jan 4, 2018, 12:20 PM
I grew up in one of those townhouses. There's nothing charming about them,

Pedestrian
Jan 4, 2018, 5:38 PM
I grew up in one of those townhouses. There's nothing charming about them,

In appearance they resembled low cost housing slapped together in the Washington DC suburbs where I grew up to house returning veterans' famiies in the wake of WW II. I'm guessing that may have been the purpose they also served in SF. Am I right?

pseudolus
Jan 4, 2018, 8:30 PM
In appearance they resembled low cost housing slapped together in the Washington DC suburbs where I grew up to house returning veterans' famiies in the wake of WW II. I'm guessing that may have been the purpose they also served in SF. Am I right?

The townhouses were conceived before then. The commie blocks towers were added to the plan later to deal with the housing demand right after the war. AFAIK.

viewguysf
Jan 5, 2018, 12:57 AM
I grew up in one of those townhouses. There's nothing charming about them,

I had extensive involvement with a number of those townhouses for quite a few years and think they are very charming, especially the way both the blocks and unit layouts vary so much. They were and are very popular with residents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkmerced,_San_Francisco

Stellar_Mass
Jan 5, 2018, 1:10 AM
TBT

https://www.facebook.com/76gas/posts/1197666700365083

pseudolus
Jan 5, 2018, 2:56 AM
I grew up in one of those townhouses. There's nothing charming about them,

Could you elaborate? Thanks.

I briefly dated someone who lived in one. It seemed nice enough on the interior. I know there have been problems for a long time with maintenance. As for the exteriors, it's one of my favorite places when I go for a run.

Pedestrian
Jan 5, 2018, 6:29 AM
750 homes could be coming soon to San Francisco's Mid-Market neighborhood
By Blanca Torres – Reporter, San Francisco Business Times
Jan 4, 2018, 2:00pm PST Updated 8 hours ago

Three major housing projects in San Francisco’s Mid-Market neighborhood could start construction soon adding more than 750 new homes — part of a massive wave of new housing in the area.

Developers have finalized or are close to finalizing building permits to move forward on the following sites:

- Group I’s 247 condos, a 232-room hotel and 16,050 square feet of retail at 950 Market St. The contractor is Bovis Lend Lease and estimated construction costs are $144 million.
- Shorenstein Properties’ 304 rentals at 1066 Market St. at an estimated construction cost of $84.6 million. Swinerton Builders is the general contractor.
- Tidewater Capital and Warhorse LLC's 186 units at 1028 Market St. Swinerton Builders is the contractor for the estimated $60 million construction project.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/01/04/mid-market-san-francisco-housing-development.html?ana=e_du_prem&s=article_du&ed=2018-01-04&u=kgyD14TZJI3FvbdA37c%2FluRxObP&t=1515133558&j=79447901

IMBY
Jan 5, 2018, 8:17 AM
Hard to judge this one when the rendering is in black and white. Massing is a bit too blocky, imo. I'd prefer more slender towers, and preferably clad with glass.

Indeed! This project cries out for glass! And why not different colored glass!!!

Pedestrian
Jan 5, 2018, 5:02 PM
Bill could add millions of new homes next to California's public transit stations
By Roland Li – Reporter, San Francisco Business Times
3 hours ago

California State Senator Scott Wiener proposed a trio of new housing bills on Thursday, including one that would make it easier to build taller projects near public transit.

Wiener (D-San Francisco)'s SB 827 calls for the statewide removal of single-family home and parking requirements for projects within a half-mile of transit hubs like BART, Muni and Caltrain stations.

The bill would mandate height limits of at least 45 feet to 85 feet for new projects, depending on how close they are to transit. Cities would be able to raise height limits beyond those minimums, and developers could also build smaller projects within the areas if they chose . . . .

Most of San Francisco would be included under the proposed law, since Muni buses are present in every neighborhood. Land along BART stations and Caltrain stations throughout the East Bay, on the Peninsula and in SIlicon Valley would also qualify, according to a previous map by the Metropolitan Transportation Commission . . . .


https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/01/05/scott-wiener-housing-bill-transit-development.html?ana=e_me_set1&s=newsletter&ed=2018-01-05&u=kgyD14TZJI3FvbdA37c%2FluRxObP&t=1515171473&j=79452471

dmncbrm
Jan 5, 2018, 5:19 PM
Previous update: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=8028810&postcount=8856

Crew cleaned up most of the debris/concrete stuff. Moving to put beams in the ground and push more sand around.

It's amazing to watch these guys work because some of their processes seem rather inefficient.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4734/38624645205_a581aca8c2_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21R8pmH)IMG_0536 (https://flic.kr/p/21R8pmH) by Dominica Broom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/95905638@N07/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4685/39490344662_0454f36bf8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23aCkDq)IMG_0534 (https://flic.kr/p/23aCkDq) by Dominica Broom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/95905638@N07/), on Flickr

homebucket
Jan 5, 2018, 5:20 PM
Do Muni bus lines count as Muni stations though? It would be great to see midrises line Irving/Judah and Taraval, creating mini "downtowns" in these nodes, but I think Geary has the most potential for being built up first.

The question is, is the current public transportation infrastructure in place equipped to handle increased density in these areas? Can 38 Geary handle increased demand?

Pedestrian
Jan 5, 2018, 6:18 PM
is the current public transportation infrastructure in place equipped to handle increased density in these areas? Can 38 Geary handle increased demand?

Recall that Geary BRT is still in the works: http://www.sfcta.org/sites/default/files/content/Planning/GearyCorridorBusRapidTransit/GearyBRT_fact_sheet_050517.pdf

Busy Bee
Jan 5, 2018, 7:09 PM
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/01/05/scott-wiener-housing-bill-transit-development.html?ana=e_me_set1&s=newsletter&ed=2018-01-05&u=kgyD14TZJI3FvbdA37c%2FluRxObP&t=1515171473&j=79452471

This could be huge

Fvn
Jan 5, 2018, 7:31 PM
Previous update: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=8028810&postcount=8856

Crew cleaned up most of the debris/concrete stuff. Moving to put beams in the ground and push more sand around.

It's amazing to watch these guys work because some of their processes seem rather inefficient.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4734/38624645205_a581aca8c2_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/21R8pmH)IMG_0536 (https://flic.kr/p/21R8pmH) by Dominica Broom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/95905638@N07/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4685/39490344662_0454f36bf8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23aCkDq)IMG_0534 (https://flic.kr/p/23aCkDq) by Dominica Broom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/95905638@N07/), on Flickr

Thanks for the updates!

They're installing a cutter soil mix wall which once completed allows for a water tight excavation for the basement. So that's why there is lots of wet cement on the ground around the where they are working and why is takes a while to install 1 beam (because they need to create a panel by mixing the soil with cement before the beam can be placed)

pseudolus
Jan 5, 2018, 8:09 PM
This could be huge

All the YIMBY/SFBARF/libertarian folks that dominate the San Francisco subreddit are going nuts over there.

AndrewK
Jan 5, 2018, 9:15 PM
Was driving down 6th Street the other day and saw that the former City Life church building at 363 6th was being demo’d. Last I remember hearing that project was entitled but up for sale. Anyone have updates?

biggerhigherfaster
Jan 5, 2018, 9:23 PM
All the YIMBY/SFBARF/libertarian folks that dominate the San Francisco subreddit are going nuts over there.

Link?

pseudolus
Jan 5, 2018, 11:41 PM
Link?

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/7o48x7/scott_weiner_introduces_bold_new_housing_bills/

viewguysf
Jan 6, 2018, 10:38 AM
Crew cleaned up most of the debris/concrete stuff. Moving to put beams in the ground and push more sand around.

It's amazing to watch these guys work because some of their processes seem rather inefficient.

This project has its own thread. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=214479&page=2

azsunsurfer
Jan 6, 2018, 10:34 PM
Am I the only one who also for the most part likes the scale of Geary's commercial buildings as they stand especially as you move further west? I mean some sites are ready for redevelopment especially closer to "busier" stations but for the most part we could potentially lose a lof of great vernacular architecture.

Pedestrian
Jan 7, 2018, 1:00 AM
Am I the only one who also for the most part likes the scale of Geary's commercial buildings as they stand especially as you move further west? I mean some sites are ready for redevelopment especially closer to "busier" stations but for the most part we could potentially lose a lof of great vernacular architecture.

You can have that scale for now west of Park-Presidio but east of there transit-rich Geary is among SFs most logical places to densify (along with 3rd St).

homebucket
Jan 8, 2018, 1:19 AM
Shots from today:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4645/39537343782_dcf0c7a8c9_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4735/25696728408_26e347307e_h.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4636/39537353252_641cb500c5_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4588/39537360732_188f98280a_k.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4601/27790717939_a1193f0f8c_b.jpg

superfishy
Jan 8, 2018, 3:49 AM
Damn, that new tower just dominates the skyline. Can't wait to go back to SF and see for myself.

Pedestrian
Jan 8, 2018, 7:04 AM
Damn, that new tower just dominates the skyline. Can't wait to go back to SF and see for myself.

I can't wait for the first night-time shot of the fully activated laser light show.

pizzaguy
Jan 8, 2018, 7:13 AM
Shots from today:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4645/39537343782_dcf0c7a8c9_b.jpg


This shot will be incredible in 5 years.

viewguysf
Jan 8, 2018, 7:49 AM
I can't wait for the first night-time shot of the fully activated laser light show.

It will be 11,000 subtle LEDs, not lasers.

viewguysf
Jan 8, 2018, 8:02 AM
Shots from today:

:worship: Five Gold Stars to you homebucket!

Pedestrian
Jan 8, 2018, 5:09 PM
It will be 11,000 subtle LEDs, not lasers.

LEDs, yes--my mistake. Subtle . . . we'll see which is what I am looking forward to doing.

Pedestrian
Jan 8, 2018, 5:15 PM
Conservatory of Music Project Positioning for Approvals next Month
January 5, 2018
200-214 Van Ness site

The refined designs for the San Francisco Conservatory of Music’s proposed twelve-story building to rise at 200 Van Ness Avenue, between Hayes Street and Dr. Tom Waddell Place, will be presented to San Francisco’s Planning Commission next week with the project positioning for approvals in February.

As designed by Mark Cavagnero Associates, the project plans now include 113 units of group housing outfitted with 420 beds for students of the Conservatory, three apartments for Conservatory faculty, . . . 27 apartments to replace those which would be razed in order to make way for the development . . . a ground floor restaurant, recital hall and student center, (and) a double-height performance hall on its top floor, with floor to ceiling windows framing views of City Hall and Davies Symphony Hall across the street.

the current height limit for the site will still need to be increased from 96 feet to 120 feet in order for the project to proceed, an up-zoning which the Planning Department supports.

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/200-Van-Ness-Rendering-2017.jpg

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/200-Van-Ness-Rendering-2017-Context-2.jpg


http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2018/01/conservatory-of-music-project-refined-preparing-for-approval.html

The improvement of Van Ness near City Hall continues.