SAN FRANCISCO | Projects: Under Construction, Approved, and Proposed

[Jerry of San Fran]

Glass is now being put in the windows. In a couple of months we will probably know if the wind will be worse in the area. I suspect it will be fierce. During our recent windy days I had to hold on to a light post to keep from being thrown to the ground at Polk and Hayes.

The floor for level 9 was poured yesterday.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4168/34807719613_4e9ed538e6_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/V2QEmM)150 Van Ness at Hayes (https://flic.kr/p/V2QEmM)

[1977]

Thanks, Jerry.

Couple renderings I hadn't seen before:
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/fd7204_0545fac0e3c941c5b78cdf714aabcd47~mv2_d_4783_4631_s_4_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1115,h_1080,al_c,q_90,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/fd7204_0545fac0e3c941c5b78cdf714aabcd47~mv2_d_4783_4631_s_4_2.webp

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/fd7204_051f727521a14bd78df680fe05ecee75~mv2_d_2000_3000_s_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_771,h_1156,al_c,q_90,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/fd7204_051f727521a14bd78df680fe05ecee75~mv2_d_2000_3000_s_2.webp

More at https://www.emeraldfund.com/ground-up-residential

[Jerry of San Fran]

1977 - thanks for the link. I had not seen some of the pictures of 150 Van Ness before!

[Jerry of San Fran]

This would be a very tall! It will be interesting to see how this one evolves.
The image is from Hoodline 6/30/17

Here is information from the San Francisco Planning Dept. about the proposal:

2017-008051PPA
Received Date:

Jun 23, 2017
Description:

30 VAN NESS AVE - The existing site is approximately 201,059 gsf of office and retail uses. The proposed project would retain 5 floors of office with some ground floor retail, expand the office use, and add a residential tower that would achieve 33% affordable consistent with the BOS resolution approving the sale. The project would seek a Special Use District and amendments to the City's Zoning Map that would increase the height to 520' and permit general office above the 4th floor. The PPA was submitted on 6/23/17 and the 90 day deadline is 9/21/17.


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4286/35513196221_288ceb0aa2_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/W7bpYz)30 van ness - proposed (https://flic.kr/p/W7bpYz)

[Pedestrian]

^^30 Van Ness has a thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=227458&highlight=FRANCISCO It says the project is "only" 400 ft, though so it may need some revision by a mod if the 520 ft height is approved.

[Jerry of San Fran]

One of the buildings I saw on a long walk south of Market St. Friday. A companion building with bridges between them is done in a white metal finish. Rust is not my cuppa tea.
Studios at $3,325. Three bedrooms at $7,000. Walk through pictures available at the 855 Brannan web site.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4235/35266817800_21aa33fa9e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VJpEfL)855 Brannan Street (https://flic.kr/p/VJpEfL)

[timbad]

various things...

in Hayes Valley, the one at Laguna and Hayes has shed its scaffolding

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4266/34825752744_d25951c261_b.jpg

this one up the street at Fulton has just been a mess, and it seems to be paused again, tho that is just an impression; I have no knowledge

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4233/34857852133_f13ab1635e_b.jpg

in Dogpatch, the southern one on Indiana is starting to show some skin

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4254/34857768023_21990940ae_b.jpg

...and sidewalks are being widened

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4084/34857770723_6f403dfd96_b.jpg

the office building on Brannan near Fourth, earlier this week

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4282/34857898233_cc2d3df05b_b.jpg

[pseudolus]

in Hayes Valley, the one at Laguna and Hayes has shed its scaffolding

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4266/34825752744_d25951c261_b.jpg

looks like it was designed on a phone with an architecture app

[Jerry of San Fran]

At floor 9 the backside of 150 Van Ness is making quite an impression from Market and Polk Streets.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4210/35687805285_f09359c538_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WnBkaF)The Backside of 150 Van Ness Aveneue (https://flic.kr/p/WnBkaF)

[timbad]

One of the buildings I saw on a long walk south of Market St. Friday. A companion building with bridges between them is done in a white metal finish. ...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4235/35266817800_21aa33fa9e_c.jpg

I've noted before that my impression of this block is that it is quite imposing from across the street, but since it looked from Jerry's pic that the sidewalk was open, I went by yesterday evening (as the fog was rolling in) to get more of a feeling of the close-up impact of the buildings on a walker. (the western third of the block is still shrouded with no access, so these are all from the more eastern portion)

looking east

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4208/35333869040_a95a4abecd_b.jpg

looking west

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4231/35333874240_136c799c70_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4285/35333863850_e3596282b2_b.jpg

entryway between the rust and silver metal sections

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4259/34879584394_3aa12c270d_b.jpg

one of the positive aspects of the project is that it should increase walking access to, and activity in, the alley behind it. there is a mid-block passage at the eastern end of the project, between it and the future BMR development to rise next door. looking south from Brannan

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4218/35552126102_755a84dd3b_b.jpg

looking back the other way from the alley end. looks like a little dog run on the right

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4043/34879582814_676ce1e5a6_b.jpg

the current state of the alley. if I recall, further in there will be a retail corridor through the block as well

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4047/34879580774_d081d59250_b.jpg

I thought there was a webcam for this one, but can't find it now...

[timbad]

855 Brannan's sister project down the street at 1 Henry Adams has been open for a while now, but for some time had its NW corner covered up. it is uncovered, and seems to be getting ready to be a restaurant space for The Grove. it's the corner facing you in this pic

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4058/35589958371_a0a2ca14f9_b.jpg

looks like outdoor fireplace with tilework and heating trees built in for outdoor seating on the west side

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4282/34911370113_4133975d63_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4261/35590012081_0b4d4451d3_b.jpg

looking east along the side that faces Townsend Square

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4230/35333877160_851493dd07_b.jpg

not sure what that green structure that looks like a ticket window is for

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4048/34911372753_9dff24086d_b.jpg

and apparently more food is on the way (http://news.theregistrysf.com/three-new-culinary-concepts-coming-one-henry-adams-showplace-square/) here too

further back on Henry Adams, a shot of the living wall

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4266/35725112495_e89fd5be05_b.jpg

[timbad]

some of the Rausch side of the project at Folsom and Rausch has been uncovered, and seems to do a nice job of blending in with the alley's feel

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4099/35681283556_077119b369_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4256/34912224163_deaab228a3_b.jpg

the Virgin hotel (https://sf.curbed.com/2017/2/27/14751324/virgin-hotel-san-francisco-sf) next to the future Moscone Muni station. the pace on this seems to have slowed in the last few months

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4061/35681279756_19c6b4ef57_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4082/35720908565_1267711770_b.jpg

[pseudolus]

not sure what that green structure that looks like a ticket window is for

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4048/34911372753_9dff24086d_b.jpg



take-out orders?

[Pedestrian]

the Virgin hotel (https://sf.curbed.com/2017/2/27/14751324/virgin-hotel-san-francisco-sf) next to the future Moscone Muni station. the pace on this seems to have slowed in the last few months


Maybe they don't want to open until Moscone reopens or until the subway construction is finished.

[Jerry of San Fran]

Lots of water, sand and black mud in the foundation dig today!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4073/35576535572_013f84114a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WcM3ym)1554 Market St. San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/WcM3ym)

[timbad]

100 Hooper

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4020/34931054314_011c7ce26c_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4232/35383792830_b3a34ac5ef_b.jpg

510 Townsend (http://www.sfhog.com/510-townsend-construction-update/)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4033/35383791040_6db6beefdf_b.jpg

[cwilly]

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4215/35391326750_d656e5654a_z.jpg

[cwilly]

The development at Battery and pacific that wraps around Old Ship Saloon seems to be rising pretty quickly.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4216/34973966173_3994f5d1da_c.jpg

As a reminder, this is the project:

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2015/10/condo-development-to-replace-globe-closer-to-reality.html

[Jerry of San Fran]

cwilly - thanks for the update! I had forgotten about that one, but recognized it as soon as I saw your photo - glad to see it progressing.

[Pedestrian]

Exclusive: Condo owners fight Central SoMa plan, threatening billions of dollars in development
Jul 3, 2017, 1:14pm PDT Updated Jul 3, 2017, 3:15pm PDT
Roland Li
Reporter
San Francisco Business Times

Dozens of condo owners at SFBlu and nearby buildings have formed a group called Central SoMa Neighbors. They're pushing the city to adopt a Mid-Rise Alternative Plan, which would limit most building heights to 130 feet. The city is studying a plan where about a fifth of the 230-acre area would have height limits over 130 feet. The plan area is bounded by Market, 2nd, Townsend and 6th streets.

The Central SoMa Plan began in 2011 to promote growth near the upcoming Central Subway, an extension of Muni light rail, with stops at 4th and Brannan streets and Yerba Buena. The subway is expected to open in 2019 before any buildings are built.

Some of the city’s largest developers, including Boston Properties (NYSE: BXP), Kilroy Realty Corp. (NYSE: KRC), Alexandria Real Estate Equities Inc. (NYSE: ARE), Tishman Speyer and TMG Partners, have proposed billions of dollars' worth of projects in Central SoMa. The city anticipates builders would pay $2 billion in fees that will fund infrastructure, parks and 33 percent affordable housing in the area. $500 million of the fees are anticipated to fund transit, including bike lanes, better sidewalks, Muni and potentially shuttles . . . .

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4239/35629930212_b3bb61cae1_b.jpg

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/07/03/condo-owners-fight-central-soma-height-development.html?ana=e_du_prem&s=article_du&ed=2017-07-08&u=kgyD14TZJI3FvbdA37c%2FluRxObP&t=1499530201&j=78518681

[JWS]

PS: Rode by there again today (ride the 5-Fulton a lot). Not much seems to change over the months. If they are opening in August, at least on the outside it looks like they have a lot to do.

Given that their website shows them universally "sold out" for all of August and September, and yet October 1 is perfectly available, I think this a subtle signal that they are nowhere near ready for August and are falling behind, but don't want to formally announce it.

I too am hoping this will be a game changer. We live at NEMA and while we love the building, we are definitely hoping this and the Hayes Street project add some more energy to the area. The Oak/Van Ness/Market cluster certainly will, but that's a ways off from being finished.

[Jerry of San Fran]

Windows and gray panels on the Polk Street side of 150 Van Ness.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4257/35674728801_dbcf426a8b_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WmsiZ4)[url=https://flic.kr/p/WmsiZ4]150 Van Ness Avenue, San Francisco[/url

[Jerry of San Fran]

A blue crane recently was installed. This one will be 8 stories.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4211/35825462865_af10db611f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WzLRYe)22 Franklin St. San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/WzLRYe)

[timbad]

a few developments notable not so much for their size, but their location in the western third of the City...

this one at 2800 Sloat (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2015/03/big-outer-parkside-development-back-on-track-for-real.html), across from the Zoo

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4215/35698252151_40af73465d_b.jpg

the other, literally-transit-oriented, side

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4283/35442339750_2e22380c5a_b.jpg

and this one (http://richmondsfblog.com/2016/06/09/bulldozers-at-work-on-alexandria-back-lot-a-closer-look-at-the-plans-for-the-alexandria-residences/) next to the former Alexandria Theater on 18th Ave near Geary. it didn't look to me like anything was being done with the theater itself (http://richmondsfblog.com/2016/12/13/latest-proposal-for-alexandria-theater-development-includes-swim-center-classrooms-and-office-space/) yet

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4277/35020893353_a69140b039_b.jpg

and SF State is getting a significant new building they're calling a wellness center (https://cpdc.sfsu.edu/campus-design/MWC), and is for athletics. looking roughly east from the Lake Merced end:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4287/35661733192_c91278113d_b.jpg

sorry, was lame and didn't get the whole building in one frame. here on the left you can see the trees that mark the edge of the main campus. Park Merced is in the far distance

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4213/35790313206_bda54f0450_b.jpg

[timbad]

other random things...

the carnage that is Moscone Center

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4213/35699725341_40a6482f36_b.jpg

couple views of the alley next to the new Hotel Via across from the ballpark (where in the pics a crowd has gathered for the unveiling of a Barry Bonds plaque).

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4235/35699830111_cbdc9bd96b_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4212/35699827681_c5f5b84021_b.jpg

the hotel on the former site of the McDonald's (Third and Townsend) will soon be showing above the fences already, looks like

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4231/35699702951_45c31d680a_b.jpg

in Dogpatch, Abaca's Tennessee St sidewalk is getting some landscaping

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4215/35022232443_436dee9757_b.jpg

one redeeming aspect of this project is that it is providing a mid-block passage between Third and Tennessee Streets that is supposed to be historically referential to the pier that occupied the site when it was a long, waterfront rope-making facility. (and apparently the building is trying hard in this respect in other ways - 'abaca' is not just a marketing name, as I had assumed in my ignorance, for example - it's a kind of fiber used in rope.) it's hard to make it out in this shadowed pic, but it will be here on the northern end of the current building

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4234/35022230063_79bb161fc0_b.jpg

more of the southern Indiana St project has been uncovered, and some balconies added (which for the moment look sort of jarring; hope they get painted or something)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4290/35022202363_b045872c15_b.jpg

the other half of the project still has a ways to go

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4210/35022204173_bf77c08b8b_b.jpg

[gillynova]

I sometimes wonder to myself.... will construction/development in San Francisco ever slow down? I just feel like there are so many projects there and units will continue to renovate.

Or if there will be more 600'+ high rises once all the current projects are finished.

[pseudolus]

and SF State is getting a significant new building they're calling a wellness center (https://cpdc.sfsu.edu/campus-design/MWC), and is for athletics. looking roughly east from the Lake Merced end:

Wellness center is what they call school gyms now. City College built one maybe 10 years ago now.

[viewguysf]

Wellness center is what they call school gyms now. City College built one maybe 10 years ago now.

It's a student recreation center, something the SF State campus has always lacked. The old Gym off of the Quad will continue to be used for athletics, including the basketball team.

That's University Park South behind and (out of sight) around the new building. It's all part of the six blocks with 267 apartments that the university bought from Park Merced, starting in the early 2000s. The site of the Wellness Center was originally Park Merced's recreational field, tennis courts, basketball half courts, parking garage, and Montessori school.

[Pedestrian]

I sometimes wonder to myself.... will construction/development in San Francisco ever slow down? I just feel like there are so many projects there and units will continue to renovate.

Or if there will be more 600'+ high rises once all the current projects are finished.

Yes and yes.

I have seen many periods when there seemed to be little major development happening. I can even recall when a few projects got shut down midway like 530 Mission. The biggest recent fallow periods were probably 2001-2003 (approximate) and 2008-2012 (approximate). I seems like there was a long period before the late 1990s when not much was going up.

We know of at least 1 building over 600 ft that is still on the planning boards: 550 Howard (aka Transbay Parcel F). But there will likely be others to follow, possibly at "The Hub" (although I believe the tallest building currently planned there is 1 S. Van Ness at 600 ft).

[slock]

timbad, I just wanted to say a quick thank you for all the pictures you're constantly posting to the San Francisco threads.

It really adds a lot to the conversation and allows many to keep up with progress.

Greatly appreciated.

[pseudolus]

timbad, I just wanted to say a quick thank you for all the pictures you're constantly posting to the San Francisco threads.

It really adds a lot to the conversation and allows many to keep up with progress.

Greatly appreciated.
indeed!

[ozone]

Yes and yes.

I have seen many periods when there seemed to be little major development happening. I can even recall when a few projects got shut down midway like 530 Mission. The biggest recent fallow periods were probably 2001-2003 (approximate) and 2008-2012 (approximate). I seems like there was a long period before the late 1990s when not much was going up.

We know of at least 1 building over 600 ft that is still on the planning boards: 550 Howard (aka Transbay Parcel F). But there will likely be others to follow, possibly at "The Hub" (although I believe the tallest building currently planned there is 1 S. Van Ness at 600 ft).

That's if you don't count the high-rise boom of the late 70's to mid-80's -under mayor Dianne Feinstein. This was the period referred to as the "Manhattanization" of the downtown. That led to an opposition movement and the Downtown Plan in 1985 which put the kiabosh on growth. But it would probably have slowed way down anyway because of Black Monday (October of 1987 when the stock markets around the world crashed). That of course was followed two years later by the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. Even the dot-com boom of the late 1990s didn't produce much in way of tangible results.

[gillynova]

I don't comment on the photos but I sure as hell love seeing it posted in threads. Thanks timbad, it's very much appreciated!

[pseudolus]

That's if you don't count the high-rise boom of the late 70's to mid-80's -under mayor Dianne Feinstein. This was the period referred to as the "Manhattanization" of the downtown. That led to an opposition movement and the Downtown Plan in 1985 which put the kiabosh on growth. But it would probably have slowed way down anyway because of Black Monday (October of 1987 when the stock markets around the world crashed). That of course was followed two years later by the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. Even the dot-com boom of the late 1990s didn't produce much in way of tangible results.

Don't forget Prop M.

[Pedestrian]

Don't forget Prop M.

Yeah, but the development gaps seems related more to economic conditions or other factors than Prop. M because Prop. M affects only commercial buildings and during the periods mentioned (and others) there wasn't much residential development either. In reality, I think we've reached the Prop. M caps only for short periods before recession brought building to a halt. Right now I think we either have just reached it or are just about to.

[ozone]

^^^ this

Don't forget Prop M. How could I have forgot about that? But since the crash occurred one year later, followed by a minor recession, followed by the quake I don't think those measures actually played as big of role in the slowdown as people imagine.

[pseudolus]

^^^ this

How could I have forgot about that? But since the crash occurred one year later, followed by a minor recession, followed by the quake I don't think those measures actually played as big of role in the slowdown as people imagine.

How you can cite the Downtown Plan and at the same time discount Prop M, the repudiation of the Downtown Plan, is beyond me.

[ozone]

How you can cite the Downtown Plan and at the same time discount Prop M, the repudiation of the Downtown Plan, is beyond me.

It is beyond you apparently because that isn't what I was doing, like at all.

[timbad]

... It's all part of the six blocks with 267 apartments that the university bought from Park Merced, starting in the early 2000s. The site of the Wellness Center was originally Park Merced's recreational field, tennis courts, basketball half courts, parking garage, and Montessori school.

thanks for the additional info, particularly for the reminder of what used to be there. I was racking my brain and couldn't remember (former Park Merced resident in another lifetime)

[Pedestrian]

S.F. planning chief says development boom may have peaked
Jul 10, 2017, 2:44pm PDT

Roland Li
Reporter, San Francisco Business Times

. . . This is the first year in six years where (the Planning Dept. is) not growing because our applications and our revenues have leveled off. They've leveled off at a record high level, but we haven't grown this year, for the first time since 2010. Our budget hit $50 million for the first time. Our peak was really the year before last.

. . . we had a 50 percent increase in the number of projects that have come through in the last five, six years. The volume has gone up tremendously.

It seems to be the biggest boom at least since World War II, perhaps since the earthquake, in terms of number of units and amount of projects. At any given time, there's about 1,000 projects in process. That's everything from highrise to somebody's house addition.


https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/07/10/sf-planning-chief-development-boom-housing-crisis.html?ana=e_bay_real&s=newsletter&ed=2017-07-11&u=kgyD14TZJI3FvbdA37c%2FluRxObP&t=1499796373&j=78533301

[Jerry of San Fran]

The 10th floor concrete pour has been done. The building will be 13 stories. The last concrete pour is scheduled for August - on schedule but a very tight one according to a foreman.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4309/35700938612_7108ea46e9_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WoLDfm)150 Van Ness Ave. - 2017_07_11 (https://flic.kr/p/WoLDfm)

[gillynova]

The 10th floor concrete pour has been done. The building will be 13 stories. The last concrete pour is scheduled for August - on schedule but a very tight one according to a foreman.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4309/35700938612_7108ea46e9_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WoLDfm)150 Van Ness Ave. - 2017_07_11 (https://flic.kr/p/WoLDfm)

Thanks for the update! I wish buildings went up this fast in San Jose

[minesweeper]

Here's another rare project on the western half of the city: 3501 Geary aka One Stanyan, a 12 or 13-unit building with retail on former gas station site (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2016/09/a-lusty-redevelopment-is-underway-along-geary-boulevard.html).

https://i.imgur.com/D4I8EEAh.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/D4I8EEA.jpg)

And this is what it will look like by the end of 2017, according to DeRose & Applebaum (http://www.deroseappelbaum.com/lease_stmts/prop_stmt_352.pdf):

https://i.imgur.com/Sx2dr2Ih.jpg

[Reminiscence]

https://s9.postimg.org/nw0dq486n/IMG_8856.jpg

I took this while on the 6th Street I-280 off-ramp (I wasn't driving!)

[homebucket]

https://s9.postimg.org/nw0dq486n/IMG_8856.jpg

I took this while on the 6th Street I-280 off-ramp (I wasn't driving!)

I actually don't mind the "balcony" look. It reminds me of the Pelli's other version in Santiago, although I guess it would be too edgy for SF's version which is more bodacious with its smooth, uninterrupted curves.

https://aedesign.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/torre-santiago-costanera-chile-glass.jpg
Source: https://aedesign.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/costanera-center-gran-torre-santiago-santiago-chile/

[1977]

SF in the morning light:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4308/35830542051_733f22e09f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WAdTQp)
San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/WAdTQp) by David Yu (https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidyuweb/), on Flickr

[colemonkee]

^ :fireworks :boogy: :worship: :banana: :dancing:

[gillynova]

Some more photos of SF currently (Thanks Juan and SpiderBHZ):

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4300/36005749666_a40cbf991c_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WRGSXm)
Summer in San Francisco. (https://flic.kr/p/WRGSXm) by John Canning (https://www.flickr.com/photos/19000461@N04/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4304/35142134423_22ca853fd1_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VxoCen)San Francisco from above Huntington Park (https://flic.kr/p/VxoCen) by Sergio Ruiz (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sirgious/), no Flickr

[dirt patch]

I kind of like the one in Santiago over Salesforce.com tower since it has more definition and beauty.

[dirt patch]

Some more photos of SF currently (Thanks Juan and SpiderBHZ):

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4300/36005749666_a40cbf991c_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WRGSXm)
Summer in San Francisco. (https://flic.kr/p/WRGSXm) by John Canning (https://www.flickr.com/photos/19000461@N04/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4304/35142134423_22ca853fd1_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VxoCen)San Francisco from above Huntington Park (https://flic.kr/p/VxoCen) by Sergio Ruiz (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sirgious/), no FlickrI think the one in Santiago is more interesting than Salesforce tower.:uhh:

[pseudolus]

I think the one in Santiago is more interesting than Salesforce tower.:uhh:

I don't know if someone with a total of 5 posts is popping up just to s--tpost.

My main concern about the Salesforce Tower is how it's so big that it makes the rest of the skyline look tiny (I'm hoping the highrises to come ameliorate this somewhat). The Santiago one is even more disproportionate.

[Pedestrian]

My main concern about the Salesforce Tower is how it's so big that it makes the rest of the skyline look tiny (I'm hoping the highrises to come ameliorate this somewhat). The Santiago one is even more disproportionate.

Did you have the same concern about WTC1 in NYC? It does the same thing to lower Manhattan.

When I was young and used to visit NYC, I always thought it neat the way the Empire State stood above evrything else. It still does, at least until the current crop of supertalls are finished. I view Salesforce as our Empire State.

I was looking at a video of Jerry Brown signing his cap & trade legislation of Treasure Island today. In the background was the SF skyline with Salesforce prominent on the left and TransAmerica still sticking up on the right. Loved it.

[colemonkee]

The Foster tower should alleviate that concern somewhat, and provide more connectivity to scale.

[pseudolus]

Did you have the same concern about WTC1 in NYC? It does the same thing to lower Manhattan.

I confess. In the late 1960s I did not post anything on the NYC threads about this.

[Pedestrian]

The Foster tower should alleviate that concern somewhat, and provide more connectivity to scale.

It's not a concern of mine: I love seeing the big boys sticking up proud and alone.

But of course Oceanwide and 550 Howard (aka TransBay Parcel F) will do the same for Salesforce.

[gillynova]

I don't know if someone with a total of 5 posts is popping up just to s--tpost.

My main concern about the Salesforce Tower is how it's so big that it makes the rest of the skyline look tiny (I'm hoping the highrises to come ameliorate this somewhat). The Santiago one is even more disproportionate.

Don't worry. DP is known to be half troll/half serious in other forums of development :slob:

[observatory]

There's someone with the same username over at skyscraper city cheerleading for San Jose so that could the reason for his dislike for anything SF:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1282487&page=42

[Pedestrian]

So we don't forget how it's coming together:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4324/36206218985_201261f049_b.jpg
http://sfocii.org/sites/default/files/FileCenter/Documents/7823-5fMemoAttach1.pdf

In passing I see 2 errors here: The Jean Gang "twisty tower" at 100 Folsom depicted appears to be the 300 ft version whereas the 400 ft version was approved and I don't see 550 Howard.

The former "tabletop" seems now thoroughly banished.

[viewguysf]

In passing I see 2 errors here: The Jean Gang "twisty tower" at 100 Folsom depicted appears to be the 300 ft version whereas the 400 ft version was approved and I don't see 550 Howard.

75 Howard and perhaps 350 Bush are also missing, not to mention the Van Ness and Market cluster, though I know that's a different story.

[fimiak]

Good article today.

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/07/27/transbay-projects-stay-on-track-cre-q3-2017.html

[Jerry of San Fran]

This is the perfect example why I don't believe what I see when developers put out an artist rendering of what is to be built. Today windows & panels are being installed which do not look at all like the drawing presented to the public over a year ago. I presume that the white panels are the finished product & the white is not a protective film - will have to wait & see. I was quite startled when I left my apartment building across the street today to see this.

The drawing on the left indicates either brick or stone facing. It will be interesting to see what the final product is like. Depending on what is put on the skin of the building it could be quite nice with the white panels. Stay tuned!


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/36184956096_ca475c85fb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/X8xmMo)150 Van Ness Ave. San Francisco 2017_07_28_comparison (https://flic.kr/p/X8xmMo) by Apollo's Light (https://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/), on Flickr

[Jerry of San Fran]

07/28/2017 - When finished I think 150 Van Ness will be a fine companion to 100 Van Ness Avenue.

url=https://flic.kr/p/VYNThk]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4301/35429780143_cd28418134_c.jpg[/url]150 Van Ness Construction - San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/VYNThk)

[Pedestrian]

^^Real nice!

I honestly thought the little school next door might be able to stop this building.

[JWS]

Regarding the Hayes Street cladding, I suspect it will be extremely similar (if not identical) to 100 Van Ness. The white paneling furthers my suspicion. When we toured 100 Van Ness (we settled on NEMA) it was clear that their amenities would be expanded into the neighboring building to give them a gym, etc that could compete with the other new buildings in Mid-Market and Rincon Hill.

Back then they were still treating these as separate buildings, but when we toured 100 Van Ness it was clear they were more or less going to be connecting them.

[Jerry of San Fran]

JWS - thanks for the info. The gap between 100 and 150 Van Ness is where a pool will be from what I can gather. If left open as seen from the artist drawings it will be quite a wind tunnel and very cold.

[Jerry of San Fran]

I don't get to the area of 1036 Mission St. often anymore, and was startled to see the bulky building in construction. I remember seeing a posting here but had forgotten about this project. The drawing is from Tenderloin Neighborhood Development's web page. The photo is mine taken 07/29/2017. This is an affordable housing project.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4320/35858672580_3aa4968789_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WCH54w)1036 Mission St. San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/WCH54w)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4328/35447310703_a9b2d06169_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/W1mJvn)1036 Mission Street, San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/W1mJvn)

[Jerry of San Fran]

07/30/2017 - Today was the first time seeing the new Moscone building. It is a quite a joy to behold. It has a crisp clean look with some very interesting patterns. I look forward to visiting when the whole complex is completed.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/36145612121_e460d4756d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/X54HbZ)Moscone Center - New Building (https://flic.kr/p/X54HbZ)

[Reminiscence]

From Yerba Buena Gardens:

https://s2.postimg.org/44lbgkuqx/IMG_8918.jpg

Source: Myself

[timbad]

passageway next to MTC building

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4316/36240889106_f590f836bd_b.jpg

look, they're finally working on the little PG&E plaza on Folsom after leaving it half-done for a year:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4295/35887345990_961a1e4dc2_b.jpg

jumping around a lot. this is the hotel on Third and Townsend, above the fence now

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4310/35887350450_fa2d47f491_b.jpg

the back of the office building on Townsend and Sixth

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4313/36240873766_a7f2ea6c58_b.jpg

from the front (this evening) looks about the same as last check-in

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4317/35496436693_7a08ac1c2a_b.jpg

100 Hooper

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4317/35908683230_3ca062d114_b.jpg

office building at Fourth and Brannan

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4327/35447441154_bb7d61fdf1_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/35447442594_555370ff90_b.jpg

[observatory]

Is anyone else bummed that the new Exchange buildings going up are blocking one of the greatest views of downtown on approach to the ballpark going northbound on 280?

[Pedestrian]

^^Not only am I not "bummed" but I wish a lot more views (such as from Potrero Hill) were being blocked by much taller buildings in Mission Bay. It is such a missed opportunity to really address the city's housing shortage by putting up much taller towers (with double or triple the number of units) for the housing component. And at the same time, it just reminds me too much of a suburban office park. THAT's what "bums" me.

[viewguysf]

^^Not only am I not "bummed" but I wish a lot more views (such as from Potrero Hill) were being blocked by much taller buildings in Mission Bay. It is such a missed opportunity to really address the city's housing shortage by putting up much taller towers (with double or triple the number of units) for the housing component. And at the same time, it just reminds me too much of a suburban office park. THAT's what "bums" me.

I'm not against The Exhange, per se, but totally understand what Observatory is saying.

Pedestrian, I don't agree with your viewpoint at all. Potrero Hill is a wonderful neighborhood and I never wanted to see really tall buildings in Mission Bay. The City is crowded enough now with an over burdened, under developed transit system. Much housing is already being built. I'm not bummed at all, except by ugly architecture, of which we have no shortage. People need to go live by those suburban office parks and their work places as much as possible. I'm not anti housing or building, but free for all tall buildings everywhere types aren't going to see it happen. I'm thankful for that.

[Pedestrian]

^^I don't want tall buildings in Noe Valley or the Haight or North Beach or the Mission or most of the Richmond/Sunset but Third St, served by rail transit, is the perfect place for them and I predict it will ventually have them. Because once the current target zones--Rincon Hill, TransBay, Hub, Mid-SOMA--are built out, as they will be, where is better? I said "most of the Richmond/Sunset" because I think eventually Geary Blvd. will have rail transit too and then it will be an excellent place for much more density which will have to be vertical.

[timbad]

... Pedestrian, I don't agree with your viewpoint at all. ... I never wanted to see really tall buildings in Mission Bay. ...

not to mention, MB is more than twice as dense as the City as a whole, so it is no slouch in that department.

[Pedestrian]

not to mention, MB is more than twice as dense as the City as a whole, so it is no slouch in that department.

More than half the city (geographically) is single family homes which, quite frankly, are not a buiding type that any but the wealthiest new buyers can afford. There should not be, and almost certainly cannot be, any new neighborhoods of single family homes built in the city. Any new development should be much denser. So while Mission Bay is indeed denser, it's still a legitimate complaint that it isn't as dense as it (and other future development on a large scale) should be to have an impact on the demand for SF homes.

[Pedestrian]

Curbed asks: "Poll: Which San Francisco mega-project needs to happen most? (https://sf.curbed.com/2017/8/2/16084686/poll-sf-project-needs-happen-most)"

What's your answer?

[pseudolus]

Curbed asks: "Poll: Which San Francisco mega-project needs to happen most? (https://sf.curbed.com/2017/8/2/16084686/poll-sf-project-needs-happen-most)"

What's your answer?

a ridiculous list that shows just how much trouble we're in

[ozone]

a ridiculous list that shows just how much trouble we're in

Why do you say that?

[botoxic]

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4318/35481999754_476286d6cd_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/W4qwms)
San Francisco Financial District Skyline (https://flic.kr/p/W4qwms) by David Oppenheimer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/livemusicphotography/), on Flickr

[AndrewK]

This is the perfect example why I don't believe what I see when developers put out an artist rendering of what is to be built. Today windows & panels are being installed which do not look at all like the drawing presented to the public over a year ago. I presume that the white panels are the finished product & the white is not a protective film - will have to wait & see. I was quite startled when I left my apartment building across the street today to see this.

The drawing on the left indicates either brick or stone facing. It will be interesting to see what the final product is like. Depending on what is put on the skin of the building it could be quite nice with the white panels. Stay tuned!


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/36184956096_ca475c85fb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/X8xmMo)150 Van Ness Ave. San Francisco 2017_07_28_comparison (https://flic.kr/p/X8xmMo) by Apollo's Light (https://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/), on Flickr

I drive by this building almost daily, and as of today the white film has been removed (at least on the Van Ness side) exposing black paneling. Still not matching with the render, but not as jarringly different.

[Jerry of San Fran]

AndrewK - Thanks for the update. I am disappointed to see gray & black window frames. I think the city has enough of black & gray combos already. Hopefully the fill between the windows will be some kind of stone with some color as pictured in the original architectural renderings. I suspect the scaffolding going up may be for the stone masons. We will know soon.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4338/36257190401_4f4996e57e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XeVzwr)2017-08-05 150 Van Ness, San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/XeVzwr)

[AndrewK]

I am a fan of 77 Van Ness (I spent a lot of time in the neighborhood when that was going up), so I hope we get something similar.

[pseudolus]

[B][SIZE="3"]I suspect the scaffolding going up may be for the stone masons. We will know soon.[/url]

I'll be very surprised if there are any stone masons. More likely there will be pre-fab panels. The quality of these can vary widely and will make or break the facade.

[timbad]

here's a wider shot of 150 Van Ness, since we are talking about it

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4355/35562056114_639ebc29da_b.jpg

not too far away, looks like they've gotten to a pause point at the little one just west of Van Ness on Market

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4375/35562057344_19f8997631_b.jpg

noticed a crane at Seventh and Minna

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4398/35562060314_f71b2b0601_b.jpg

couldn't remember if this is the lot which sat half-dug-up forever, and didn't peek over the fence to see if there were any signs of recent activity, but in any case, could be this (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2014/06/plans-eight-story-building-rise-7th-minna.html)

http://www.socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/119-7th-Street-Design.jpg

at Moscone Center, they've removed the old pedestrian bridge over Howard...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4356/35589736193_0abb0e9a08_b.jpg

... and appear to be re-pouring the roadway

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4337/35589720993_04f4219e98_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4383/35589697413_d0d86ab4fc_b.jpg

... and I think the sidewalk in front of the eastern section

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4410/35589693273_fb631dfe3b_b.jpg

[181Fremont]

I could not find a thread for this project but it appears that the Jewish Home of San Francisco on Silver & Mission is being demolished...

http://jhsf.org/about-bold-vision.htm

^ Some interesting images

[viewguysf]

I could not find a thread for this project but it appears that the Jewish Home of San Francisco on Silver & Mission is being demolished...

http://jhsf.org/about-bold-vision.htm

^ Some interesting images

Demolition of the main building will definitely be an architectural loss for the area!

[pseudolus]

Demolition of the main building will definitely be an architectural loss for the area!

This and the original landscaping, with its grand staircase and axial symmetry.

[fogcitybrit]

The Facade will be Terracota. . . .

AndrewK - Thanks for the update. I am disappointed to see gray & black window frames. I think the city has enough of black & gray combos already. Hopefully the fill between the windows will be some kind of stone with some color as pictured in the original architectural renderings. I suspect the scaffolding going up may be for the stone masons. We will know soon.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4338/36257190401_4f4996e57e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XeVzwr)2017-08-05 150 Van Ness, San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/XeVzwr)

[pseudolus]

The Facade will be Terracota. . . .

So no stone masons, but maybe some potters?

;)

[botoxic]

Updated post card views from a Yerba Buena Island hike this past weekend:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4371/36354337501_975f16ae72_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XovtYr)
Yerba Buena 1 (https://flic.kr/p/XovtYr) by botoxic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/14064159@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4345/35683360933_dfcb4cfcd8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Wndy1V)
Yerba Buena 2 (https://flic.kr/p/Wndy1V) by botoxic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/14064159@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4438/36323658362_9a1f7c19c0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XkNf8L)
Yerba Buena 3 (https://flic.kr/p/XkNf8L) by botoxic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/14064159@N06/), on Flickr

[cmak]

the part of the new Moscone Center expansion on 3rd and Howard was all lit up last night
http://i.imgur.com/NylILXbh.jpg (http://imgur.com/NylILXb)

[timbad]

in Dogpatch, the building on Third near Mariposa has been uncovered on the Third St side

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4374/36366425912_f40894f203_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4339/36366423072_0913704e8e_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4390/36366429812_a9131d1b3b_b.jpg

the westernmost segment of 855 Brannan is also being uncovered

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4390/36488575176_19b88dfd86_b.jpg

one of the indentations on Brannan

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4395/36488579946_77f3620259_b.jpg

and the sidewalk feel

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4376/35725846953_3348a40898_b.jpg

99 Rausch (at Folsom) also starting to show

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4348/36488576136_759e60b813_b.jpg

Seventh and Minna is an active site

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4374/36488577296_6125c52339_b.jpg

on Harrison between Third and Fourth

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4433/35725795053_e5d869ca62_b.jpg

[Dariusb]

Updated post card views from a Yerba Buena Island hike this past weekend:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4371/36354337501_975f16ae72_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XovtYr)
Yerba Buena 1 (https://flic.kr/p/XovtYr) by botoxic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/14064159@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4345/35683360933_dfcb4cfcd8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Wndy1V)
Yerba Buena 2 (https://flic.kr/p/Wndy1V) by botoxic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/14064159@N06/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4438/36323658362_9a1f7c19c0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XkNf8L)
Yerba Buena 3 (https://flic.kr/p/XkNf8L) by botoxic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/14064159@N06/), on Flickr
Beautiful shot!

[RST500]

http://www.starktruthradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/SF-Skyline-1.jpg
http://www.starktruthradio.com/?p=5121


http://www.starktruthradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/SF-Transbay-Terminal.jpg
http://www.starktruthradio.com/?p=5121

[timbad]

forgot these: the mid-block passage, at Abaca in Dogpatch, is open (though still getting some finishing touches). it's supposed to evoke the pier (and perhaps marsh) that used to exist on the site when it was a rope manufacturing facility

looking from Tennessee toward Third

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4429/35679826194_e6e29d1532_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4333/35679828204_603a2a0e3d_b.jpg

looking back the other way

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4404/35679829694_8b907d422e_b.jpg

[misken67]

My bad, I posted in the wrong thread, is there anyway to remove this comment?

[viewguysf]

My bad, I posted in the wrong thread, is there anyway to remove this comment?

No--you can only edit it as you have already done. Do hang around the San Francisco city threads too though!

[misken67]

No--you can only edit it as you have already done. Do hang around the San Francisco city threads too though!

Thanks! I will, I actually meant to post into the Bay Area thread, so close enough:D

[Pedestrian]

SF transit agency to vote on $21B wish list, including new subway at West Portal

. . . one section of the SFMTA’s capital plan, which is essentially a budget, expanded by nearly $850 million as the agency ramps up plans to put the M-Oceanview train line underground.

This potential new light-rail tunnel would run between West Portal and Parkmerced and see portions of 19th Avenue redesigned with a bike path and landscaping, all to the tune of at least $2.5 billion. This project, which has not yet been approved, includes a “substantial increase in the length of the tunnel” and additional underground stations, the SFMTA staff wrote in the capital plan . . . .

In a win for streetcar fans, $80 million was estimated in a potential pitch to extend the F-Market & Wharves historic streetcar line to Fort Mason, and the E-Embarcadero historic streetcar may receive its own independent track loop and terminal for $10 million . . . .


http://www.sfexaminer.com/sf-transit-agency-vote-21b-wish-list-including-new-subway-west-portal/

And so nothing for a Geary subway (or light rail) for the next 20 years.

[Pedestrian]

Exclusive: Can teacher housing win over opponents of the Mission's largest, most controversial project?
Aug 9, 2017, 3:49pm PDT Updated Aug 9, 2017, 3:51pm PDT
Roland Li
Reporter, San Francisco Business Times

The largest housing proposal in San Francisco's Mission district may add subsidized teacher housing in the face of strong neighborhood opposition.

Developer Maximus Real Estate is considering an unspecified number of below-market-rate units reserved for teachers at 1979 Mission St., adjacent to the 16th Street BART station.

The developer's most recent plan calls for 290 on-site market-rate rental units, 41 affordable on-site condos and 49 off-site rental units, or 23.6 percent affordable housing overall. It wasn't clear how the proposal would be modified . . . .

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4347/36454347611_0f50eb5d9b_b.jpg

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/08/09/sf-mission-maximus-teacher-housing-development.html?ana=twt#i1