SAN FRANCISCO | Projects: Under Construction, Approved, and Proposed

[fflint]

Ack! My eyes, my eyes!

[timbad]

Ack! My eyes, my eyes!

yeah, I didn't think people wanted a reminder! really hoping this one doesn't look too much like the rendering when done. why does everything have orange highlights these days?

[viewguysf]

yeah, I didn't think people wanted a reminder! really hoping this one doesn't look too much like the rendering when done. why does everything have orange highlights these days?

With what appears to be lavender and gray, no less! :yuck:

The Icon (it's anything but that) at Market and Noe has awful orange panels on its boxy design. It's by far my least favorite of the new Upper Market residential buildings, already looking dated to me.

[jbm]

I believe I saw on Twitter last night that the BOS rejected the just negotiated sale of 30 Van Ness (for $80m) because it didn't have enough affordable housing. Vote was 7-4 (Peskin, Kim, Breed voted to reject IIRC). This is the Walgreen's building on the corner of Market and Van Ness that the city owns, and is selling to help pay for the new government offices on the old Goodwill Site on Mission between 11th and S. Van Ness.

I can only assume this means the city will get even less for the site (and I think that $80m was less than they were originally projecting) and have to borrow more money to pay for the new offices on Mission.

[Jerry of San Fran]

a very long weekend, AndrewK - thanks for the link/picture as a reminder showing the proposed look. As usual there are differences from what is proposed & what is built. I note in particular the some windows on the east side are much smaller, like bathroom sized, than what was proposed. What you see is not what you will get almost all of the time.

[fflint]

The Icon (it's anything but that) at Market and Noe has awful orange panels on its boxy design. It's by far my least favorite of the new Upper Market residential buildings, already looking dated to me.
I completely agree with you, Icon is a horribly cheap looking building in a very nice part of town. Literally every other new project nearby looks much better (my favorite of the new crop, architecturally, is the flatiron at Market/15th/Sanchez with the Mexican restaurant at the base).

We can only hope there will be a huge discrepancy between the rendering (remember kids, "render" is only a verb) and the final product at Franklin/Page/Market. It really can't get much worse.

[SFView]

Regarding Page and Franklin: If it were me, for starters I would change the dark and light gray (light lavender?) to one shade of light gray. Then I would change the orange (terracotta?) and brown to one shade of brown or terracotta. I might also rework the massing of the facade protrusions. Somehow the composition of the forms as shown don't quit work well within the limits of the building envelope. Either that, or I would go extreme and replace the ugly plaid pattern of the facades with something else all together :haha:.

[pseudolus]

(remember kids, "render" is only a verb)

Thank you, gerund police!

[fflint]

Thank you, gerund police!
Think of it as a public service announcement for those forumers who want to converse with architects intelligently.

[SFView]

^^^My gosh, you probably don't know how funny this is too me! Anyway, it is understood that this is a public forum.

[SFView]

No sale yet of 30 Van Ness - maybe not so funny.

Source: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2015/12/supervisors-reject-deal-to-sell-citys-mid-market-tower-site-for-80m.html

Supervisors Reject Sale of Mid-Market Tower Site

While the sale of the City’s five-story building at 30 Van Ness Avenue, a building which sits upon a parcel which is zoned for development up to 400 feet in height, was authorized for sale by San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors with a price of “no less than $87 million,” the City returned to the Board with a deal for $80 million, as we first reported last month.

And with Supervisors Avalos, Breed, Campos, Kim, Mar, Yee and Peskin having voted against the Mayor’s resolution to ratify the sale of 30 Van Ness to Related California yesterday, the $80 million deal, which was structured with a leaseback to the City until late 2018, was formally rejected.

The outstanding debt on the building is now around $28,900,000. And after paying $400,000 in broker commissions and $40,000 in marketing costs, the City would have received roughly $50,600,000 in net proceeds from the sale, not including Related’s agreement to pay the City’s $2 million transfer tax, to help finance the City’s proposed development of a new 17-story building at 1500 Mission Street, on the eastern half of the Goodwill site at the intersection of Mission and South Van Ness Avenue. The proceeds would have also been used to pay Related $14.9 million in rent and operating costs for 30 Van Ness through 2018.

[fimiak]

The board said $87m, and the city came back $7m short. The board has every right to reject that. 30 Van Ness is in the top five potential sites in the city for new construction, there should be no problem getting what the board asks.


I am also happy that Crescent Heights gave up on Parcel F. That has been a debacle ever since they announced and canceled the auction.

[viewguysf]

The board said $87m, and the city came back $7m short. The board has every right to reject that. 30 Van Ness is in the top five potential sites in the city for new construction, there should be no problem getting what the board asks.

I am also happy that Crescent Heights gave up on Parcel F. That has been a debacle ever since they announced and canceled the auction.

I agree with you on both counts, even though we may be nearing the end of this long running building cycle.

[AndrewK]

The board said $87m, and the city came back $7m short. The board has every right to reject that. 30 Van Ness is in the top five potential sites in the city for new construction, there should be no problem getting what the board asks.


I am also happy that Crescent Heights gave up on Parcel F. That has been a debacle ever since they announced and canceled the auction.

Though that $87m was decided upon before they knew that the building needs $60m in seismic retrofits, which the buyer would have to make before leasing the building back to the city.

[a very long weekend]

yeah, there's never going to be a seismic retrofit there. the socketsite autist fringe aside, i think it's obvious that related was simply trying to hustle the city and it's a good thing that this will be thrown back up for a competitive bid. people (sfgate commenters, socketsite commenters, etc) want to blame the forces of nimbyism and obstruction (i.e. peskin) but when london breed votes against it, you know there's something genuinely wrong with it. people who are just unfamiliar with how thoroughly unmenschlich ed lee and his people are (and to be fair, newsom was worse and willie brown could easily have ended up in federal prison if the FBI had bothered) don't put together how strange it was that the city decided to negotiate with just related. i know you folks want to get the deal done, but your job is not to take the easiest path if it costs the city millions, and the board was 100% right not to let you slide on this one.

[viewguysf]

Totally correct!

[Jerry of San Fran]

12/13/2015 - Today we can now see what was the lobby. I had been in it several times. It was one of the most beautiful lobbies in the city.

Now that the building is reachable by a "chewing machine" the take-down is moving much faster. Later next year we should start to see the 13 story apartment building rising up from Van Ness to Polk along Hayes.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5738/23731615955_2dd3e51f6d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Ca5JCk)Automobile Association Building (https://flic.kr/p/Ca5JCk)

[Jerry of San Fran]

Yes, I know this is an odd post, but this guy owned a huge chunk of San Francisco's rental market. Angelo Sangiacomo died at 91 years of age. The workers paid their respects as the funeral procession drove through the job site.
[Photographs taken from my apartment, telephoto lens]

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5828/23124006094_1af59e5485_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Beozof)Trinity Place III - Funeral Procession (https://flic.kr/p/Beozof)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/23643678922_81b87ccd32_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/C2j31A)Trinity Place III - Funeral Procession (https://flic.kr/p/C2j31A)

[AndrewK]

Glass is going up at 500 Pine:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/dj_andrewk/Mobile%20Uploads/image_36.jpg

[timpdx]

Came across this for the 350 Mission lobby screen:

http://www.notcot.org/post/60668/Virtual-DepictionsSan-Francisco-is-a-public-art-project/

[minesweeper]

The CA Department of Finance has released its July 2015 population estimates (http://www.dof.ca.gov/research/demographic/reports/estimates/e-2/documents/pressrelease_package_Jul15.pdf).

San Francisco is estimated to have grown by 10,400 people (1.2%) to 862,470 people. The US Census Bureau's estimates for 2015 will be released in March 2016.

The calculation for 2014-15 brought California’s population growth since the 2010 census to 1.8 million, which indicates that the 2020 census should count about 41 million Californians.

San Joaquin County was the state’s fastest growing in 2014-15, seeing its population rise by 1.58 percent, followed by Monterey and Santa Clara counties. Fifteen rural counties saw population decreases during the year, topped by a 2.56 percent loss in Lassen County in the state’s northeastern corner.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article50064945.html

[Jerry of San Fran]

timpdx - thanks for the link to the wall art. I am not sure if it is a video of what is coming or if it is active yet. I will have to get down there at night to see it.

[Jerry of San Fran]

I had lunch today at Lulu next door to these two construction sites. Not much to see yet. I thought the subway station pictured on the left would have been more advanced by now.

You can refresh your memory of the hotel by visiting the link for a fantasy view of the hotel designed by Axis: http://axisonline.net/portfolios/hospitality/250-fourth-street-san-francisco/

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5814/23834429355_696f18686e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CjaFta)

[slock]

I kept meaning to send this link to everyone a while ago, but something reminded me of it today. It's a great report by JLL that shows all of the city's CBD development since 1980. I thought you all would find it very interesting.

You might have to provide your email address, but the report is free:

http://www.us.jll.com/united-states/en-us/Research/San%20Francisco%20Development%202013.pdf?d5847c4e-9853-4342-bade-eaf7c6e6b8fb

[fimiak]

I had lunch today at Lulu next door to these two construction sites. Not much to see yet. I thought the subway station pictured on the left would have been more advanced by now.



Subway stations are like icebergs...90% of it is below you. Besides, they have until 2019, that is at least three full years and maybe a few months more.

[boyinthecity]

the towers of rincon hill - december 2015.
i notice the color of the glass and masonry is very similar. --ie., rincon towers, jasper, 340 and 399 fremont.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5trDopI6t9dHJ8Cq6jowr85xRykYmF1T9XFP1hTNQX4-oPmz4yBssupylSoAWGAkLywqXjcZ7Euv_7JKU46O2M7e8GBIX-LgSTiI_SVvhFVnAWQYQji80_Ar8qtu5npm0W-z8gv8ZaDdiqOUuYSJ0su02wCMx9A1KruazcnyudaElrdNIQFG1Hepj_h0GH8_f6A-tmc4IueI1xR0fHU9agKafe2EmNmGji5OIITljdyb5ZoDKstDGd0Me03IvBZjxCInTYK1rOJtNYNg4o-i3u_-Nd-aDYG6GhO2e7ZKMT0LmO2HPZtjCSjgQFZucO4u8fe7ND1FvM0OS_VM3YKDfJxvtc-e4yB0BrPqkgV6ukOxwZROK_rJuw1gE6YK8SSz3jiBW_HtqbtQR3K-xYlFo9H1GmJz9jukhzldDJrzKdF2H_I7z6s0o1HjCNQF7S_BHZ3Iztzasb2RzXxWTFVsR1j6fnma-p_TwqcNyh8fZujJBa26A-vAdCitF0f5DkdbgnFqTGJqGLIWUXoUJarLtwHcY7DWRd6NW6J-qypTXAlB2yqgIvLtqEosefw9VN44phz8=w1317-h649-no
source: me

[AndrewK]

Demo for 150 Van Ness is almost complete:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/dj_andrewk/Mobile%20Uploads/image_37.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/dj_andrewk/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_37.jpg.html)

[350Bush]

Demo for 150 Van Ness is almost complete:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/dj_andrewk/Mobile%20Uploads/image_37.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/dj_andrewk/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_37.jpg.html)

Great photos + thanks,

[timbad]

dusk view of Rincon Row

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5645/23937700025_a9299c4650_b.jpg

[vaux]

Long-time reader, first time to post.

The weather held up long enough today for a quick tour of the Transbay district. Eery sky made for a nice backdrop . . .

350 Mission Street
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5812/23956132065_21e0285f0a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CuVrrK)IMG_20151224_130343 (https://flic.kr/p/CuVrrK)

3 in 1: Salesforce Tower, Transbay Terminal, 181 Fremont
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5652/23930047386_7236210494_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CsBKnU)IMG_20151224_130125 (https://flic.kr/p/CsBKnU)

181 Fremont
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5786/23588269839_9e6e92d0bb_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BWq3Pz)IMG_20151224_130806 (https://flic.kr/p/BWq3Pz)

Block 6 / Solaire
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1469/23329349873_3e54c71432_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Bxx1We)IMG_20151224_130830 (https://flic.kr/p/Bxx1We)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5642/23930045546_c694ee5a1d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CsBJQb)IMG_20151224_131033 (https://flic.kr/p/CsBJQb)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5827/23327883334_5a63159c23_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BxpuZ5)IMG_20151224_131303 (https://flic.kr/p/BxpuZ5)

Along with a new Philz coffee on the corner of Folsom/Beale . . .
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5638/23327882384_1147c0be1c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BxpuGG)IMG_20151224_132608 (https://flic.kr/p/BxpuGG)

Lumina
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1595/23329348613_a95eacfac8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Bxx1yv)IMG_20151224_131226 (https://flic.kr/p/Bxx1yv)

340 Fremont
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5774/23873613111_25eba53823_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CnCvra)IMG_20151224_131507 (https://flic.kr/p/CnCvra)

399 Fremont
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5773/23873613731_31cc2dcb50_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CnCvBR)IMG_20151224_131245 (https://flic.kr/p/CnCvBR)

Rincon Hill
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5797/23329347643_daaa74da32_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Bxx1gM)IMG_20151224_131644 (https://flic.kr/p/Bxx1gM)

[Jerry of San Fran]

Vaux - nice photos - thanks for the updates. I have not been by 181 Fremont since I had lunch next door at Town Hall. It is amazingly high now since I was last there!

[SLO]

Nice update Vaux, great first post.

[vaux]

Beautiful day in the Mission today, with progress on a number of fronts:

1050 Valencia
Construction back in full-swing, after being previously halted. To the untrained eye, the building looks rather different than the approved rendering (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2014/02/valencia_street_development_back_to_five_floors_as_boar.html) (no rounded bay, distinct triangular middle window). Have the designs been revised recently, apart from the top floor set back?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1689/23996534795_7f2a67dceb_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CyuvLx)

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1491/23970441306_bdfd04728f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CwbM5N)

Slow but steady progress on the new Annunciation Cathedral on Valencia Street
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1528/23970432526_d83a818455_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CwbJtq)

And a new facade and retail storefronts at the Fog Building just up the road:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5736/23700813590_c598b7a3fb_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/C7mSa5)

The new St. Lukes is also rising fast, and must be nearly at full height

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1520/23368293474_65e50b7152_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BAYBvC)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5660/23996534315_f79139b4a8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CyuvCg)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5650/23700820280_896a13f9a4_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/C7mU9q)

Over on Mission Street, the Grand Theater is looking very spiffy, having been fixed up as the new home for Gray Area (http://grayarea.org/).

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1672/23996532695_ddda6a73a9_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Cyuv9k)

But the re-opening of the New Mission Theater definitely steals the show (and even makes Vida look great):

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1513/23700817550_4dc05628a8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/C7mTkm)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5628/23628661449_a2461057eb_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BZZ4QD)

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1584/23913971601_27b12aa6b0_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CrcmBc)

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1591/23700815610_2698c06b36_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/C7mSKU)

Including a beautifully-restored interior . . .
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1578/23913972071_f77e815a08_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CrcmKi)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5695/23913971161_730a813823_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CrcmtB)

Construction is also underway across the street at the former Cine Latino, which last I heard (http://sf.curbed.com/tags/cine-latino) was being converted into a restaurant and gym (hopefully some of the historic details will be returned).

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5657/23369709523_1a8eb17307_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BB6Ssg)

It looks like the old Tower Theater may also have a future (this is the first time I've noticed the sign announcing the Mission Cinema School (http://missioncinemaschool.org/)). While there's something very artistic about it in its current state, it will be great to see this building restored, along with other theaters on this strip of Mission (and no, not as another parking lot!).

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1546/23369707263_b683eea2d4_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BB6RMi)

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1697/23913970221_50910de4a9_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Crcmcp)

Finally, on nearby 18th Street, there is also a nice in-fill building, which replaced a former auto garage. I don't think it's been covered here previously. At the rate it's gone up, it will be complete in no time:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5815/23970433626_96276339db_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CwbJNo)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5726/23913969461_7f7547e59c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CrckYi)

[chris08876]

Numerous under construction tower pics:

SF is starting to look like NYC with all of the cranes. :cheers:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/573/23322660191_4e0c738aeb_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BwWJjT)
Aerials of San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/BwWJjT) by Louis Raphael (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/23109613160_c3efd75282_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Bd7NSd)
Aerials of San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/Bd7NSd) by Louis Raphael (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5677/23379092236_49fbb1eb31_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BBVXBb)
Aerials of San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/BBVXBb) by Louis Raphael (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5625/22778106383_cf35da46c9_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/AGPKs8)
Aerials of San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/AGPKs8) by Louis Raphael (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/), on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/572/22777877973_b8cbfa8bea_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/AGNzy2)
Aerials of San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/AGNzy2) by Louis Raphael (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/), on Flickr

[mt_climber13]

I was in SF yesterday and the south end of the skyline is looking incredibly dense with all these new towers.

[Jerry of San Fran]

vaux - a lot of updates! Thanks. The Greek cathedral was a skeleton when I last saw it. The complex keeps growing.

chris088076 - Beautiful photos from the air. I must go to Flickr & see more of Louis Raphael's photos - https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/

[Jerry of San Fran]

The Civic is almost competed & this will probably be my last post for this one. I was very surprised to see that the ground level are apartments. I had expected to see some retail, maybe a restaurant. Being on the ground level the tenants will have no privacy. I had hoped to see more street activity after this one was built. Currently the first 2 blocks of Polk St. had one massage parlor, a beer hall and lost of bums.

I am very happy with this one. A very handsome building indeed. Being it is across the street from my apartment building I am happy with the good architecture!

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1605/23717081720_db648713e8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/C8Nf75)The Civic - 101 P0lk Street (https://flic.kr/p/C8Nf75)

[pseudolus]

There were 28 highrises with their own threads that had comments during 2015. I broke them into three categories: completed (or nearly so), under construction and the rest

completed (or nearly so):
222 Second
Lumina (201 Folsom)
350 Mission
Jasper
Transbay blocks 6/7
375 Fremont
340-350 Fremont

under construction:
Park Tower (excavation and shoring only, no foundation yet)
CA Pacific Medical Center
Trinity Place
350 Bush
Salesforce Tower
181 Fremont

the rest:
636 4th St
10 S van Ness
Treasure Island/Sun Tower
41 Tehama
One Oak
Post Street Tower
1500-1580 Mission St
5M Development
75 Howard St.
50 First St
500 Folsom St
Transbay Block 8 (400 Folsom)
Parcel F
706 Mission
100 Folsom

Of the rest, which if any do you think will begin work in 2016?

[slock]

41 Tehama should be in the "under construction" list.

Based on what I've read regarding permits and financing, my guess (hope) is that the following break ground in 2016:

500 Folsom
400 Folsom
706 Mission
100 Folsom (they have financing, just waiting for height change)
50 First (both towers)

The rest probably won't start until the next cycle -- I think construction costs have gotten too high.

[pseudolus]

41 Tehama should be in the "under construction" list.

Based on what I've read regarding permits and financing, my guess (hope) is that the following break ground in 2016:

500 Folsom
400 Folsom
706 Mission
100 Folsom (they have financing, just waiting for height change)
50 First (both towers)

The rest probably won't start until the next cycle -- I think construction costs have gotten too high.

Thanks for the correction on 41 Tehama. Not sure why this one is flying under the radar. Agree on 500 and 400 Folsom and 706 Mission. 100 Folsom and 50 First seem like they're not as far along.

Some of "the rest" seem like pipedreams at this point. But it'd be encouraging to see One Oak or 1500-1580 Mission get going.

Everyone seems to think this cycle is getting long in the tooth and is about to end. That seems to me to be a very SF-centric view. On a countrywide basis it seems like things have a ways to go, as we're only now out of the depths of the last crash. The SF market is driven by venture capital. Any signs that's over?

[toxteth o'grady]

The Bay Area has seen over 130,000 new jobs created in 2015. If it weren't for the fact the tech industry prefers clusters of five-story buildings in an office park to a single multi-story highrise, I'd say there would be a lot more tall buildings going up. With 2016 shaping up as a recovery year nationwide, I see no reason for a slowdown in the Bay Area.

[fimiak]

Thanks for the correction on 41 Tehama. Not sure why this one is flying under the radar. Agree on 500 and 400 Folsom and 706 Mission. 100 Folsom and 50 First seem like they're not as far along.

Some of "the rest" seem like pipedreams at this point. But it'd be encouraging to see One Oak or 1500-1580 Mission get going.

Everyone seems to think this cycle is getting long in the tooth and is about to end. That seems to me to be a very SF-centric view. On a countrywide basis it seems like things have a ways to go, as we're only now out of the depths of the last crash. The SF market is driven by venture capital. Any signs that's over?

Part of that end of cycle talk is fueled by Prop M, which has been hit and means that some of the office space that has been proposed is not likely to start until 2018 or never. The residential market has stabilized for the time being from early year highs, so it is natural that some are saying that the residential building cycle is slowing down as well. I think for me that is largely dependent on whether the market and van ness buildings are going to start as is, have their height increased (perhaps the likeliest happy news), or are simply pipe dreams. I don't expect too many large surprises for SF in the next two years...most of our focus will be on what has already been proposed and what is U/C. Oakland might have more interesting new proposals than SF to look at in 2016.

[chuckrim]

I can only hope that Jeanne Gang & Tishman's 160 Folsom get's the nod. Her 'Aqua' tower in Chicago is magnificent. Would be a huge addition to the skyline here.

I think construction costs have gotten too high.
^^this

[jbm]

I believe that the One Oak people are hoping to get all their permits in place by mid-year and to get work started in the second half of the year.

[chris08876]

Part of that end of cycle talk is fueled by Prop M, which has been hit and means that some of the office space that has been proposed is not likely to start until 2018 or never.

They should repeal prop M. I was looking at some GDP stats for SF, and its incredible just how much the city grew and its affect on global markets. Places like SF should be allowed to grow untamed in terms of office space and even residential. It might not put a big band-aid in the housing crisis, but its something at least. More people, more jobs, better economic outlook.

I'd like to see some of the boom really spill into Oakland and the surrounding suburbs. Oakland could be the JC of the region in terms of cheaper rents and cheaper overall sq footage. Housing is really my biggest concern. Even with all of the units, I think its asinine for America to have this problem. We have people who want to move into cities, but have a hard time due to units being overpriced and not in supply. Shouldn't be that way. The fortress city, NIMBY attitude needs to be overruled. Speaking in general terms. I'd like to see SF have the pro unit attitude of Austin or Houston.

Even micro units are acceptable. I'd like to see 1000's of these built. While space is generally not important to younger folks, getting them to move to cities is important. It adds spice and new ideas to urban areas, and not to our stale suburbs.

[chuckrim]

They should repeal prop M. I was looking at some GDP stats for SF, and its incredible just how much the city grew and its affect on global markets. Places like SF should be allowed to grow untamed in terms of office space and even residential. It might not put a big band-aid in the housing crisis, but its something at least. More people, more jobs, better economic outlook.
It also creates the 'boom-bust' scenario that we have become accustomed to. It's simple supply / demand - blows my mind how city leaders do not get this.

[pseudolus]

It also creates the 'boom-bust' scenario that we have become accustomed to. It's simple supply / demand - blows my mind how city leaders do not get this.

This is the first time in 30 years that we're bumping up against the Prop M cap. How could it be responsible for the "boom-bust" cycle?

[fimiak]

This is the first time in 30 years that we're bumping up against the Prop M cap. How could it be responsible for the "boom-bust" cycle?

Not that what I am about to say is the reason for the boom / bust, but many projects are never even proposed because of developer fear of Prop M. There are developers that would invest in SF if they knew they didn't have to compete against others for Prop M space. Many of these developers go look for opportunities in other cities instead.

[viewguysf]

blows my mind how city leaders do not get this.

City leaders get it, but Prop M was a public initiative. Until we have enough citizens who vote to overturn or modify it, nothing is going to happen. The same is even more true regarding our protected waterfront, where the voters have to approve individual projects.

How many of you actually live here, are registered voters, become informed, and vote in each and every election?

[fimiak]

City leaders get it, but Prop M was a public initiative. Until we have enough citizens who vote to overturn or modify it, nothing is going to happen. The same is even more true regarding our protected waterfront, where the voters have to approve individual projects.

How many of you actually live here, are registered voters, become informed, and vote in each and every election?

I can proudly say that me and my SO have voted in every election since moving to SF. Mail-in ballots are awesome.

There was an idea from last year that the mayor had in recovering Prop M space that had been converted into residential over the past thirty years. This would account for something like 1-3m sq feet, which is like adding two to four years to prop M. http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/real-estate/2014/09/sf-office-cap-prop-m-mayor-lee-conversion-plan.html

[fflint]

How many of you actually live here, are registered voters, become informed, and vote in each and every election?
I have voted in every SF election since (and including) 1992, with the exception of my college years when I voted in LA.

There was an idea from last year that the mayor had in recovering Prop M space that had been converted into residential over the past thirty years. This would account for something like 1-3m sq feet, which is like adding two to four years to prop M. http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/real-estate/2014/09/sf-office-cap-prop-m-mayor-lee-conversion-plan.htmlThis is an outstanding idea, and is entirely in accordance with the spirit of Prop M.

[toxteth o'grady]

They should repeal prop M. I was looking at some GDP stats for SF, and its incredible just how much the city grew and its affect on global markets. Places like SF should be allowed to grow untamed in terms of office space and even residential.

Prop M was the result of fear of untamed growth. In 1979, it was Prop O that was supposed to defend SF against Manhattanization (it failed at the polls). The aversion to growth is not confined to San Francisco; Austin has for years tried to keep newcomers out (they also failed). As it is, Houston has always been more susceptible to the boom-bust cycle than most places. For better or worse.

[fflint]

Crane over 350 Bush on a cold Winter day:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1637/23445283893_e8093ae3de_b.jpg
My photo

[timbad]

41 Tehama should be in the "under construction" list.

Based on what I've read regarding permits and financing, my guess (hope) is that the following break ground in 2016:

500 Folsom
400 Folsom
706 Mission
100 Folsom (they have financing, just waiting for height change)
50 First (both towers)

The rest probably won't start until the next cycle -- I think construction costs have gotten too high.

I think I would be pleased even if the above is all we get out of this cycle. Would round out Yerba Buena, further cement the tenuous link between Rincon Hill and Transbay and go far to transform Folsom, and fill one of the last remaining major gaps in the 'CBD' - the Gang building would be icing on the cake, an ornament for views from the bridge and Bay.

[timbad]

...

How many of you actually live here, are registered voters, become informed, and vote in each and every election?

pretty sure I can check all those boxes since 1988 (except for the six years in there that I lived elsewhere)

[viewguysf]

pretty sure I can check all those boxes since 1988 (except for the six years in there that I lived elsewhere)

Tim - you, fflint, fimiak & his SO, and I all get gold stars. I wish everybody did because voting, as fimiak pointed out, is so easy here. I wish it were mandatory as a civic duty.

[Ant131531]

They should repeal prop M. I was looking at some GDP stats for SF, and its incredible just how much the city grew and its affect on global markets. Places like SF should be allowed to grow untamed in terms of office space and even residential. It might not put a big band-aid in the housing crisis, but its something at least. More people, more jobs, better economic outlook.

I'd like to see some of the boom really spill into Oakland and the surrounding suburbs. Oakland could be the JC of the region in terms of cheaper rents and cheaper overall sq footage. Housing is really my biggest concern. Even with all of the units, I think its asinine for America to have this problem. We have people who want to move into cities, but have a hard time due to units being overpriced and not in supply. Shouldn't be that way. The fortress city, NIMBY attitude needs to be overruled. Speaking in general terms. I'd like to see SF have the pro unit attitude of Austin or Houston.

Even micro units are acceptable. I'd like to see 1000's of these built. While space is generally not important to younger folks, getting them to move to cities is important. It adds spice and new ideas to urban areas, and not to our stale suburbs.


Austin/Houston are also much less built out then SF is so it's much easier for real estate investment groups to buy a large empty lot, then develop 300+ unit mega apartment projects.

Last thing we want is for San Francisco to become more sterile as a result of destroying it's great housing stock in favor of bland midrise/highrise apartment buildings. Let's not destroy the reason why everyone loves San Francisco in the first place.

That being said, SF should re-develop the more suburban portions of the city(The southwest side). They don't add much and are architecturally bland compared to the housing stock in the northern half of the peninsula.

[timbad]

not much different than the last time we checked in, but just a reminder that this project (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2015/04/510-townsend-as-envisioned-and-pre-leased-to-stripe.html) at 510 Townsend at about Sixth is underway

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1525/23763216269_4e92e245e0_b.jpg

and a few looks at 1010 Potrero from a passing train

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5781/24048282471_45f6f0064c_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1491/24048456061_a05afb9042_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1670/23835412970_81f965405a_b.jpg

[botoxic]

Many amazing SF aerial photos taken December 29th by Louis Raphael on flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/albums/72157661646391122/page4) - worth checking out the entire album, but here are a few of my favorites:

The cranes are down, and Rincon Hill is finished for the time being, minus the Folsom connection pieces:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1622/23701215189_8eae9581a5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/C7oVxc)More Aerial Fun over San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/C7oVxc) by Louis Raphael (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/), on Flickr

Mission Street splitting the skyline:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1691/24069053985_81fb71c8d4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CEUccp)More Aerial Fun over San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/CEUccp) by Louis Raphael (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/), on Flickr

Even Jasper cannot ruin this amazing Rincon Hill sunset:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5822/23443227413_fef898ff7f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BHAEL6)More Aerial Fun over San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/BHAEL6) by Louis Raphael (https://www.flickr.com/photos/louisraphael/), on Flickr

[chuckrim]

^^ love that perspective of the city. Inspiring how much it has changed.

[fflint]

So many great aerials coming out these days!

Wikipedia has a slightly older but still relevant aerial, and it is massive:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/San_Francisco_downtown_aerial_2015.jpg
source (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/San_Francisco_downtown_aerial_2015.jpg)

[ConstructDTLA]

Recently in SF,

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1478/23531056414_893e6aabf0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BRmPgd)Flagship Apple at Stockton & Post (https://flic.kr/p/BRmPgd) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1522/23532460103_b046c8025f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BRu1wK)Flagship Apple at Stockton & Post (https://flic.kr/p/BRu1wK) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1444/23532446033_67dd84045a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BRtWma)Pine & Kearny (500 Pine Street) (https://flic.kr/p/BRtWma) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1692/24159213785_b3f99c0eb6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CNShyH)Pine & Kearny (500 Pine Street) (https://flic.kr/p/CNShyH) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1640/24078128391_75b68f3564_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CFGGGF)181 Fremont (https://flic.kr/p/CFGGGF) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1715/23792918499_9a7d6cf1e8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CfuVJK)181 Fremont (https://flic.kr/p/CfuVJK) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1588/24053156142_5e5ac6f26a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CDuHjE)222 Second (https://flic.kr/p/CDuHjE) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1578/23534398043_c0d8f9e3f9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BRDWBv)222 Second (https://flic.kr/p/BRDWBv) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1617/24053140472_66e45061c4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CDuCEu)222 Second (https://flic.kr/p/CDuCEu) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1543/23532998794_12817c5066_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BRwLEw)222 Second (https://flic.kr/p/BRwLEw) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1677/24053118992_23be837fe6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CDuwh9)222 Second (https://flic.kr/p/CDuwh9) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

[AndrewK]

Great shots as always Hunter. Thanks for the contribution.

[Jerry of San Fran]

01/07/15 - The old AAA building is now down to the foundation.
The view is from the Essex Fox Plaza, 14th floor.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1511/24159313631_49be9b65ef_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CNSNfc)150 Van Ness Avenue (https://flic.kr/p/CNSNfc)

[patriotizzy]

Hunter stay! I love your pictures and more SF shots from you would be a blessing.

[edwards]

Posting on here since the thread for 350 Mission is closed.

17.5 min, day by day (Feb 12, 2014 - June 27, 2015) time-lapse of 350 Mission St. construction.

9njAugOZNvI

[timbad]

http://sf.curbed.com/uploads/1%20franklin-thumb.png

I'm note sure why sfcurbed says 'getting ready to rise' (http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2016/01/13/35_new_condos_ready_to_rise_at_hayes_valleys_one_franklin.php#more), since it has been under construction for months, but this rendering of One Franklin looks a little better:

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/5696aa5cf92ea15fa500931e/Unknown-1.jpeg

[minesweeper]

Family portrait of the Rincon Hill towers:

http://i.imgur.com/JZ0tWpmh.jpg

[ConstructDTLA]

Could you guys help me name the unnamed 6 photos below? I don't know SF developments nearly as well as I'd like to.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1572/24403813421_a2b73f98be_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DbtVvP)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/DbtVvP) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1663/24377933842_b4a8fd44ff_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/D9chqb)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/D9chqb) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1664/24460036276_c999ff6186_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Dgs5Bo)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/Dgs5Bo) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1467/23859453273_31bff1f97b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CmnWd2)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/CmnWd2) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1553/24486262905_6a67431a9e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DiLuSD)Lumina (https://flic.kr/p/DiLuSD) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1718/24190723250_d92165b455_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CRDMem)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/CRDMem) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1705/24190735470_e4e906a1b2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CRDQS3)Lumina (https://flic.kr/p/CRDQS3) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1464/24190750870_5fe3fe06a6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CRDVry)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/CRDVry) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

[cwilly]

Could you guys help me name the unnamed 6 photos below? I don't know SF developments nearly as well as I'd like to.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1572/24403813421_a2b73f98be_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DbtVvP)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/DbtVvP) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

Transbay Terminal in the foreground and the towers left to right are 101 2nd, 555 Mission and 535 Mission


https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1663/24377933842_b4a8fd44ff_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/D9chqb)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/D9chqb) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

299 Fremont AKA Solaire Apartments


https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1664/24460036276_c999ff6186_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Dgs5Bo)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/Dgs5Bo) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

Excavation for Park Tower in the foreground, part of Transbay Terminal construction in the distance, and the blue tower is Millenium Tower.


https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1467/23859453273_31bff1f97b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CmnWd2)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/CmnWd2) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

Same as above


https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1718/24190723250_d92165b455_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CRDMem)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/CRDMem) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

299 Fremont aka Solaire on the left, Temporary Transbay Terminal in front


https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1464/24190750870_5fe3fe06a6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CRDVry)San Francisco (https://flic.kr/p/CRDVry) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

340 Fremont on the left, 399 Fremont on the right, 299 Fremont aka Solaire midway back, the steel structures of the Transbay Terminal and 181 Fremont in the distance

[timbad]

South Beach must feel quite different than it did a few years ago, with Rincon Hill looming over

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1598/24108782879_f039acaba1_b.jpg

[timbad]

some random things...

1 Henry Adams in Showplace Square

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1705/23848337754_a369d6b9b4_b.jpg

the entryway on Brannan for DropBox (333 and 345 Brannan)

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1613/24108774439_00e4341077_b.jpg

the SW corner of the large development at 8th and Harrison

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1532/23849781273_b10d411d1f_b.jpg

another shot of the new building on Polk. really like this one

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1675/24108873669_da017f8643_b.jpg

in Hayes Valley, 455 Hayes is uncovering

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1613/24108857869_1b3a3943fe_b.jpg

Hayes and Laguna

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1524/23848431204_a2962fa0fc_b.jpg

55 Laguna steps

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1643/24450450916_b6f3ef0242_b.jpg

not sure it was the idea, but the steps were open, so I walked up for a look-see. when you get up to the mid-block landing and look right, you see this

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1637/24368363412_a703f1dc5b_b.jpg

looking back the other way:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1583/23849857953_c766d6995c_b.jpg

looking back down the steps toward Octavia

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1716/23849861763_e5da12cd0c_b.jpg

the original building in the SE corner is getting its makeover

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1544/24450465446_97217d39b5_b.jpg

the project going up at Market and Sanchez

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1642/23849878773_231e4dee10_b.jpg

another view

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1670/24108906289_e3a046b189_b.jpg

Potrero 1010 is getting some landscaping on its western end

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1474/24368403342_6644fd46bb_b.jpg

definitely getting some wide sidewalks (and water-management features) with many of these new developments downtown. this is Lumina

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1568/24108830019_960e192bb3_b.jpg

[timbad]

just realized the thread for Jasper is closed, so here is Lansing. it sort of looks like the alleyway itself may end up getting a redo as construction settles down. not sure about that, but would be nice. 45 Lansing is on the right in the distance, not very visible

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1466/23848356674_ec42e447b5_b.jpg

[Jerry of San Fran]

timbad - thanks for the exclusive sneak preview of 55 Laguna. It is an awesome use of the former school property.

I saw 455 Hayes Saturday. I am very pleased to see the results.

[ConstructDTLA]

340 Fremont on the left, 399 Fremont on the right, 299 Fremont aka Solaire midway back, the steel structures of the Transbay Terminal and 181 Fremont in the distance

Thanks!! Thats a huge help. :cheers:

[viewguysf]

I'm very disappointed with the back of Rockwell as seen from California and Franklin as well as from Whole Food's parking lot, where it will remain exposed for many years. Why does Planning continue to allow this? We gripe about NIMBYs, yet also give them many legitimate complaints.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1666/24576263455_02315a86c7_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DrHLUg)Rockwell from the back (California & Franklin) (https://flic.kr/p/DrHLUg) by viewguysf (https://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1450/24467951502_26af19def1_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Dh9DwN)Rockwell from the back (California & Franklin) (https://flic.kr/p/Dh9DwN) by viewguysf (https://www.flickr.com/photos/viewguysf/), on Flickr

[Citylover94]

Because that blank section of the building goes up to the property line so when a neighboring building is built it would cause issues if the wall wasn't already like it is now.

[viewguysf]

Because that blank section of the building goes up to the property line so when a neighboring building is built it would cause issues if the wall wasn't already like it is now.

It would have been better to have a taller structure rather than this semi ugly square box. Look at the lower left balconies too--I wouldn't even consider buying one of those units.

[fimiak]

It would have been better to have a taller structure rather than this semi ugly square box. Look at the lower left balconies too--I wouldn't even consider buying one of those units.

You are looking at an unfinished back side that will eventually be covered up. The corner view is much better. People complained all the time about how NeMa looks on the outside, but if you live there you only notice the really nice interiors.

http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2015/03/20/first_look_inside_rockwell_as_it_gets_ready_to_start_sales.php

[botoxic]

The second image below (from the 50 First thread) reminds me of an image I saved to my computer exactly nine years ago, when the very first stages of a southward skyline expansion became visible on the horizon. We've come a long way since then - the ensuing decade in SF has been one for the history books, an unparalleled period of growth which will completely redefine the look of the City.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q149/btgibson/SF%20Buildings%2001-07/Skyline.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/btgibson/media/SF%20Buildings%2001-07/Skyline.jpg.html)
http://eecue.com/i/San-Francisco-Skyline-eecue_28269_ay8z_l.jpg


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/mrayatsfo/SF%20Skyline%202020%20Jan%202016%20Update.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/mrayatsfo/media/SF%20Skyline%202020%20Jan%202016%20Update.jpg.html)m.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/real-estate/2016/01/sf-first-mission-oceanwide-heller-manus-foster.html

[SFView]

^^^I am only seeing an "x" in the first image, I think I know what you're talking about.

[fflint]

The second image below (from the 50 First thread) reminds me of an image I saved to my computer exactly nine years ago, when the very first stages of a southward skyline expansion became visible on the horizon. We've come a long way since then - the ensuing decade in SF has been one for the history books, an unparalleled period of growth which will completely redefine the look of the City.
The transformation has been (and continues to be) breathtaking.

[lz131313]

I don't think I'd be foolish to say that San Franciscos 2019 skyline could rank among the top 3 in the world.... The beautiful bay and bay bridge backdrop with the bay lights on and shinning and Salesforce's tower beacon/crown shinning up in the sky. 2019 can't come any sooner !

[SFView]

Since we're on the subject, here is a quick timeline:


http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist1/yerba.html
1847
http://www.sfmuseum.org/photos16/earlyerba.jpg


From 1986 poster print:
1915, 1958, 1972, 1986
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/mrayatsfo/SFSkyline1915to1986.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/mrayatsfo/media/SFSkyline1915to1986.jpg.html)


From "botoxic's" post above;
2007
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q149/btgibson/SF%20Buildings%2001-07/Skyline.jpg


http://sfocii.org/sites/default/files/Meetings/Commission/Supporting-Docs/2016/AttachmentE-07.pdf
2016
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/mrayatsfo/SF%20Skyline%202016%20Planning%20Jan%202016%20.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/mrayatsfo/media/SF%20Skyline%202016%20Planning%20Jan%202016%20.jpg.html)


http://sfocii.org/sites/default/files/Meetings/Commission/Supporting-Docs/2016/AttachmentE-07.pdf

2020
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/mrayatsfo/SF%20Skyline%202020%20Planning%20Jan%202016%202.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/mrayatsfo/media/SF%20Skyline%202020%20Planning%20Jan%202016%202.jpg.html[/URL)

[BrandonJXN]

Transamerica is looking a little lonely over there.

[viewguysf]

Transamerica is looking a little lonely over there.

It really always did from this perspective, but it more than holds its own as the icon it will always be.

[fflint]

Transamerica has always been at the outer edge of the Financial District. Chinatown starts on the block immediately west; North Beach starts a couple blocks northwest; the Jackson Square neighborhood is across the street, due north.

[cwilly]

Not sure if this has been posted before, but the steel frame for Market Street Place is complete...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1472/24653798085_fd4bf9308c_z.jpg

and the back...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1671/24286073349_71ea68a80f_z.jpg

[kdeff]

2020
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/mrayatsfo/SF%20Skyline%202020%20Planning%20Jan%202016%202.jpg

I actually like that Transamerica and 1 Rincon sort of "bound" the skyline as seen from TI.

That is, they will unless (until?) skyscrapers spead south of I80.

[pseudolus]

I actually like that Transamerica and 1 Rincon sort of "bound" the skyline as seen from TI.

That is, they will unless (until?) skyscrapers spead south of I80.

I always thought the SF Planning Department's effort to sculpt the skyline to make it aesthetically pleasing when viewed from Treasure Island to be heavy-handed and bizarre.

[AndrewK]

Didn't have a chance to take a picture because I was driving, but the site at 600 S. Van Ness (at 16th) is finally being cleared. The empty auto repair shop had been sitting there for quite some time with lumber stacked up randomly across the parking lot. 4 floors of rentals over ground floor retail.

[SFTransplant]

I'm surprised no one here posts about all the exciting new routes SFO is getting. Today, we landed our longest non-stop route yet and the longest non-stop route by an American provider beating out ATL-JOH.

http://travelskills.com/2016/01/28/uniteds-newest-longest-flight-announced/

[fflint]

I always thought the SF Planning Department's effort to sculpt the skyline to make it aesthetically pleasing when viewed from Treasure Island to be heavy-handed and bizarre.
Except it isn't. There are no skyscrapers to the right of Transamerica, when viewing the skyline from TI, because that is the outer edge of the Financial District, and the residential neighborhoods north and east of TA don't want skyscrapers.

[AndrewK]

Except it isn't. There are no skyscrapers to the right of Transamerica, when viewing the skyline from TI, because that is the outer edge of the Financial District, and the residential neighborhoods north and east of TA don't want skyscrapers.
I think Pseudolus was referring to the height limits put in place for the Transbay and Rincon areas in order to create an undulating effect with a peak in the center of the skyline (SF tower/50 1st) and end posts of Transamerica and One Rincon that neighboring buildings rise up to.

[cmak]

yeah, there was a very concerted effort by planning, at least w/the Rincon Hill master plan, to ensure the "hills" of skyscrapers were maintained

http://www.sf-planning.org/ftp/general_plan/images/rincon_hill/UD_2_skyline.jpg

objectives 3.2 and 3.3:
http://www.sf-planning.org/ftp/general_plan/Rincon_Hill.htm

I think Pseudolus was referring to the height limits put in place for the Transbay and Rincon areas in order to create an undulating effect with a peak in the center of the skyline (SF tower/50 1st) and end posts of Transamerica and One Rincon that neighboring buildings rise up to.

[pseudolus]

yeah, there was a very concerted effort by planning, at least w/the Rincon Hill master plan, to ensure the "hills" of skyscrapers were maintained

http://www.sf-planning.org/ftp/general_plan/images/rincon_hill/UD_2_skyline.jpg

objectives 3.2 and 3.3:
http://www.sf-planning.org/ftp/general_plan/Rincon_Hill.htm

Yes, this is the sort of thing I had in mind. My recollection though is that there was an updated version for the Transbay Plan, with the three mounds being Rincon, Transbay and the existing FiDi.

I also recall one justification for the height of the Transbay/Salesforce Tower was "wayfinding" to the Transbay Terminal.

[AndrewK]

Yes, this is the sort of thing I had in mind. My recollection though is that there was an updated version for the Transbay Plan, with the three mounds being Rincon, Transbay and the existing FiDi.

I also recall one justification for the height of the Transbay/Salesforce Tower was "wayfinding" to the Transbay Terminal.

Yes that is what I remember too.

[cmak]

Yes, this is the sort of thing I had in mind. My recollection though is that there was an updated version for the Transbay Plan, with the three mounds being Rincon, Transbay and the existing FiDi.

the earlier Mission Rock proposal had an updated skyline plan (page 31)
http://www.sf-port.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/MissionRockMarch12RevProposalDesign.pdf

http://i.imgur.com/btOLX.jpg

[edwards]

Union Square Apple Store, 1/26/16

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1704/24558823291_020fc8eae8_h.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sirgious/24558823291/)

[timbad]

the hotel on King St

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1552/24607357902_b26a6ede1e_b.jpg

in Dogpatch, the project at 650 Indiana (http://www.buildinc.biz/650-indiana), as seen from the 18th St bridge to Potrero Hill. looking south

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1523/24429277010_aea3ef45fe_b.jpg

slightly different angle

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1587/24698585766_1a8ccc0182_b.jpg

and as seen from the 20th St bridge, looking back north

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1526/24606996772_92d65bf9ec_b.jpg

looking south from that same location, the project at 800 Indiana (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2014/05/dogpatch-development-watch-new-designs-800-indiana.html)

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1614/24631281651_12d665c781_b.jpg

they were pouring a new roadbed on the north side of Potrero 1010 today

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1483/24698550266_989f482fe2_b.jpg

and that side is starting to come together

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1713/24724722545_b0820dfe8c_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1613/24631246961_5e7ab7bae4_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1475/24698539866_80b5661ac4_b.jpg