The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread

[tmacdougall]

SIGNIFICANT changes to Tannery!

Site plans and elevations are showing Tannery North encroaching on the future site of the office building at the corner of Vaughn Harvey and Main.

Now that said, there appears to be a future building planned but it's no longer on the corner, it will be facing north on Main St. I can only speculate that this building will only be single story because of the close proximity to Tannery North. If it is multi-story I wouldn't want to be the folks living in those condos.

Also, it appears that there is NO underground parking for Tannery North.






Link to the agenda for the February meeting of the Moncton PAC:

https://www.moncton.ca/lets-do-business-zoning-planning-urban-planning/planning-advisory-committee

[Berge]

SIGNIFICANT changes to Tannery!

Site plans and elevations are showing Tannery North encroaching on the future site of the office building at the corner of Vaughn Harvey and Main.

Now that said, there appears to be a future building planned but it's no longer on the corner, it will be facing north on Main St. I can only speculate that this building will only be single story because of the close proximity to Tannery North. If it is multi-story I wouldn't want to be the folks living in those condos.

Also, it appears that there is NO underground parking for Tannery North.

Underground parking is part of the plans, Drawing A-100 shows the ramp and the individual parking stalls.

[David_99]

Moncton CMA Population Estimates
July 1, 2018: 152,758
July 1, 2019: 155,825

We should hit 160,000 by Dec 2020.

[MonctonRad]

March PAC Agenda for the City of Moncton - pretty sparse..........

http://www5.moncton.ca/docs/pac/PAC/Mar_25_2020/PAC_Agenda_March_25_mars_2020_lordre_du_jour_CCU.pdf

[MonctonRad]

'Double taxation' cut will energize private sector, say N.B. business leaders
Province reducing tax on buildings like rental properties by 50%
Colin McPhail · CBC News · Posted: Mar 10, 2020 8:44 PM AT | Last Updated: March 10
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-budget-double-tax-cut-private-sector-1.5493205

This problem has been alluded to several times in the past on SSP, most recently in regards to the tendency of Moncton developers to build generic four storey vinyl clad apartment buildings. The reason for this of course being that if you build higher value buildings, you would end up paying a lot more in (double) property tax.

Hopefully with this change, we will see both more apartment buildings being built, and that the quality and size of these projects will improve. :tup:

[lirette]

'Double taxation' cut will energize private sector, say N.B. business leaders
Province reducing tax on buildings like rental properties by 50%
Colin McPhail · CBC News · Posted: Mar 10, 2020 8:44 PM AT | Last Updated: March 10
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-budget-double-tax-cut-private-sector-1.5493205

This problem has been alluded to several times in the past on SSP, most recently in regards to the tendency of Moncton developers to build generic four storey vinyl clad apartment buildings. The reason for this of course being that if you build higher value buildings, you would end up paying a lot more in (double) property tax.

Hopefully with this change, we will see both more apartment buildings being built, and that the quality and size of these projects will improve. :tup:

Seems like a no brainer. Coming out of whatever the economy looks like after the Corunavirus we'll need changes like these to boost growth and not scareoff investors

[jonny golden]

The "double taxation" cut & the low vacancy rates should combine to make investment in apartment buildings more attractive. It would be great to see a couple of potentially big developments downtown finally take off: 1222 Main Street (Crombie) and the Crowne Plaza block (Aquilini Developments) I won't hold my breath on these projects, but it would be exciting.

[MonctonRad]

It's going to be deathly quiet on the forums here regarding development news for the next 2-3 months (at least) due to COVID-19. But don't worry, things will eventually pick up. Don't lose interest everyone. :tup:

[MonctonRad]

Moncton eyes Coliseum complex as makeshift hospital if pandemic gets worse
City, health officials toured site Monday to consider what supplies would be necessary at trade show space
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Mar 23, 2020 6:33 PM AT | Last Updated: 4 hours ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-coliseum-pandemic-planning-1.5507041

Moncton's Coliseum complex is being eyed as a potential coronavirus assessment site or makeshift hospital if the pandemic gets worse, city officials say.

The city's fire chief has toured the 125,000-square-foot facility off Killam Drive several times with health officials, including again on Monday afternoon to determine what supplies could be required.

So far, the location isn't required.

"I hope that we don't need that," Conrad Landry, who also is the city's emergency measures director, told city councillors Monday. "I hope that we're overreacting, but I'd rather overreact than under react."

Landry wasn't available for an interview after the tour. He told councillors during an afternoon committee meeting that the tour was with Dr. Ken Gillespie, chief of staff at the Moncton Hospital.

[Philbilly]

From the mayor:


Council met mostly virtually (WebEx) for four house tonight for our regularly scheduled Public Session. We began with a COVID-19 update from our Emergency Measures Director. We then had an update on the financial implications of COVID-19 for our municipality.

In planning matters, we had the first reading of a new zoning application for 77 Queen Street (St. Bernard’s Rectory) and also one for 2261 Mountain Road (2x6-storey 75 unit residential buildings). Additionally, we had a Public Hearing for 620 McLaughlin Drive (new francophone school with 1,305 K-8 students and a daycare — Fall 2022 opening anticipated) and related to this item, added “Vision” to the name bank for streets (for a small connector street in the area). From a previous private session we agreed to transfer a small portion of property from the City to the Province (Windcrest) in exchange for 2 portions of land (Teaberry & Marjorie) and an easement (Mountain). Additionally, we acquired a small piece of land at Elmwood & Price.

Next up we approved the following financial relief options for residents and businesses:

1. Reimbursing Farmers Market Vendors for 3 weeks out of 4 in March & not charging for April 2020.
2. Waiving of interest charges for water & sewer.
3. Waiving of NSF fees for March-May 2020.
4. Suspending collection efforts for March-May 23020 which means the City will suspend its water shut-off process for the same period.
5. All City owned parking lots be opened and parking be free until April 30, 2020 with the recommendation that this be reassessed by administration at that time and presented to Council at the May 4, 2020 public meeting.
6. All parking meters with the exception of the meters in proximity to both hospitals be provided free of charge until April 30, 2020 (around hospitals it is necessary to have turnover for patients getting treatment…but Horizon Health is definitely encouraged to provide parking for their employees at the two local schools that are closed).
7. All parking meters in proximity to both hospitals be provided frees of charge from 6pm to 7:45am on weekdays until April 30, 2020
8. Waiving the Sidewalk Café Patio fees for 2020.

We awarded a quotation for the supply and delivery of water supply materials (McLennan Sales=$27,383 & Wolseley Waterworks=$29,086), awarded an RFP for event security (Shadow Security) and awarded a tender for rehabilitation of the Alma Street parking structure (Atlantic Underground Services Ltd.=$1,786,059).

[jonny golden]

What happened to the Junction Urban Village thread?

[MonctonRad]

What happened to the Junction Urban Village thread?

It's still there, just adjust your "display options" at the bottom of the page to show active threads within the last 100 days. :)

[theshark]

A month with nothing posted, go to the bottom of the page on the atlantic canada forum and change the show thread to two months, its still here don’t worry! Lol


Ha MonctonRad beat me to it lol

[jonny golden]

Thank You. Got it.

[MonctonRad]

Moncton builders consider delaying projects as pandemic continues
City says most projects still going ahead this year as industry group reports commercial, industrial delays
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Apr 16, 2020 6:00 AM AT | Last Updated: April 16
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-construction-development-pandemic-1.5533699

It sounds as if all projects currently under construction are continuing to progress normally, and that all things being equal, that Tannery Place North will start in May. Ashford's building at Gordon/Highfield will also likely start this spring. Other projects however are less certain, and on the accompanying radio interview on CBC this morning, the point was made that some projects which might have started in the fall might be put off until 2021. This has more to do with evolving market conditions rather than the pandemic itself (although the two are obviously interconnected).

[MonctonRad]

:previous:

One interesting tidbit from the CBC article is that Ashford is putting off work on a new apartment building on Lorentz Avenue (just behind The Car Store on Main Street West) until next year. This is actually the first I've heard about this project. There are no plans or renders out there, and I have no idea how large this building would be, but it would be immediately across the street from the two existing 6 & 8 storey older white apartment buildings that are landmarks in the west end.

[jonny golden]

:previous:

One interesting tidbit from the CBC article is that Ashford is putting off work on a new apartment building on Lorentz Avenue (just behind The Car Store on Main Street West) until next year. This is actually the first I've heard about this project. There are no plans or renders out there, and I have no idea how large this building would be, but it would be immediately across the street from the two existing 6 & 8 storey older white apartment buildings that are landmarks in the west end.

Hopefully this will make it more likely that we see the development of the Paramount Theater property getting under way. Dixon did say that they are proceeding with their planning. So being in the planning stage seems to suggest that any construction wouldn't start until later in the year. Like you, I'm curious to see what exactly Ashford comes up with for this site. Whatever they do, it will be a big improvement over what was there before.

[MonctonRad]

Regarding the (newly discovered) Ashford development on Lorentz, I did a quick look-up on the SNB website, and actually all three of the properties enclosed in the red box below were sold on the same day (March 30, 2020), for a combined total of $1,450,000.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49781571503_6843fc6c46_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iR2yQX)

This is essentially the entire block to the west of the Econo Lodge, and includes the property where the Car Store is currently situated.

This is a pretty big chunk of property. I wonder what Ashford is thinking of doing with it?

[Monctoncore]

Regarding the (newly discovered) Ashford development on Lorentz, I did a quick look-up on the SNB website, and actually all three of the properties enclosed in the red box below were sold on the same day (March 30, 2020), for a combined total of $1,450,000.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49781571503_6843fc6c46_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iR2yQX)

This is essentially the entire block to the west of the Econo Lodge, and includes the property where the Car Store is currently situated.

This is a pretty big chunk of property. I wonder what Ashford is thinking of doing with it?

They are planning an apartment.

“ Dixon said Ashford will defer most work on plans for another apartment building along Lorentz Drive until next year because of uncertainty caused by the pandemic.”

http://https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-construction-development-pandemic-1.5533699

[jonny golden]

They are planning an apartment.

“ Dixon said Ashford will defer most work on plans for another apartment building along Lorentz Drive until next year because of uncertainty caused by the pandemic.”

http://https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-construction-development-pandemic-1.5533699

Plans for "another" apartment building on Lorentz Drive. Does Ashford own the two white apartment buildings that are on Lorentz?

[MonctonRad]

That lot is big enough for a cluster of apartment buildings, as well as some commercial/retail fronting West Main Street........

[Monctoncore]

Plans for "another" apartment building on Lorentz Drive. Does Ashford own the two white apartment buildings that are on Lorentz?

No they don’t, that was referring to the other project they plan downtown!

[jonny golden]

That lot is big enough for a cluster of apartment buildings, as well as some commercial/retail fronting West Main Street........

So Ashford owns the lot that the car dealership now occupies? If so, they'd probably have to relocate when Ashford decides to move forward with development plans. It's a large lot, and just minutes from downtown, Wheeler and the causeway(future bridge). Good location for apartments.

[Good2go]

The City of Moncton's Infrastructure projects for this year...


https://t.co/dcPqtawvt1?amp=1

[jonny golden]

According to Halifax ReTales:

"So it sounds like Amazon is setting up a few small 10k sq warehouses Dartmouth, Moncton, Fredericton so far what I have come across and have contracted someone called Box Rocket (who is hiring drivers) to deliver."

[DyAm00394]

According to Halifax ReTales:

"So it sounds like Amazon is setting up a few small 10k sq warehouses Dartmouth, Moncton, Fredericton so far what I have come across and have contracted someone called Box Rocket (who is hiring drivers) to deliver."


There are job postings online for Moncton, Fredericton and Saint John (here in NB). https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk03i6ahDI0_AjObHAHjrHMochSFFYw:1590427919650&ei=DwHMXo2ZJ-3DytMP9NSfiAI&q=box+rocket+delivery+new+brunswick+canada&oq=box+rocket+delivery+&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAxgAMgQIIxAnMgYIABAWEB46BAgAEEdQwoUCWMKFAmCVjwJoAHABeACAAVuIAVuSAQExmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab&ibp=htl;jobs&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiewNvqxc_pAhUBoHIEHZI2BPwQiYsCKAF6BAgKEA0#htivrt=jobs&htidocid=PxuO6v40Wez4k1LDAAAAAA%3D%3D&fpstate=tldetail


Apparently it's not Amazon setting this up, it's Intelcom. They've apparently have set up buildings in Moncton, Fredericton, Saint John and Halifax to do these Amazon Deliveries. Box Rocket is the contractor with them.

[MonctonRad]

Moncton policy aims to boost affordable housing construction
City to offer grants to offset municipal development costs
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-housing-policy-affordable-1.5585226

Staff provided an example of a 36-unit building with 30 per cent deemed affordable housing. Under the formula, the building would have $25,000 in development fees.

That building would be eligible for a grant of $6,667.50.

Coun. Brian Hicks suggested that would be a relatively small cost compared to the total building cost that staff estimated could range from $3 million to $4 million for a 36-unit apartment building.

A pittance indeed, but apparently the city is putting this forward as an expression of goodwill on the issue, hoping for additional funding for affordable housing from the other two levels of government.

[riverviewer]

Moncton policy aims to boost affordable housing construction
City to offer grants to offset municipal development costs
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-housing-policy-affordable-1.5585226



A pittance indeed, but apparently the city is putting this forward as an expression of goodwill on the issue, hoping for additional funding for affordable housing from the other two levels of government.

Perhaps they can convert the soon to be empty office buildings, as more people work at home, and the soon to be vacated retail spaces, as more people shop online, into affordable housing.

[MonctonRad]

An interesting read...........

Study estimates new Moncton-area contemporary art museum could cost $38M
Consultant estimates proposal would require $1.2M to $1.3M per year in private, government funding
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Jun 18, 2020 8:00 AM AT
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-dieppe-contemporary-art-museum-1.5616139

This study is very preliminary, with very few specifics. If this goes ahead, don't expect any grand openings for the next 12-15 years.

I am supportive of this. Of all the larger cities in the Maritimes, Moncton is really the only one without a major cultural institution of some kind. I think it is time.

I see Councillor Theriault would like to see it in the old MHS, which is certainly worth consideration. Personally, I think a location on Downing Street would be appropriate, between city hall and the Riverfront Park, across the street from the city library and next to a relocated Moncton Market. This would make a fine cultural district in the heart of the downtown. :tup:

[MonctonRad]

from Councilor Greg Turner's FB page:

In these most challenging times that we are experiencing, there is still lots to be thankful for in the City of Moncton . We have just received our building figures for June , and the City of Moncton issued 191 Permits , the highest total in the last decade . The (monetary) total of over $36M is the third highest over the last 10 years . It is exciting to see this continued strong growth in our City , both in residential and commercial construction.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106693367_10157225338946479_1613753286142427334_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=Ri5rzrgiB5cAX-zOGkK&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=aa6260471a00590b8e661b506c77d4b3&oe=5F24CC34
new apartment building on Victoria, currently wrapping up construction.

[MonctonRad]

PAC agenda is out for the July meeting.

https://www.moncton.ca/lets-do-business-zoning-planning-urban-planning/planning-advisory-committee

Sadly, not too much worth reporting. In particular nothing regarding the Harper Building project. :(

[tmacdougall]

Would have loved to see a bit more meat in the July PAC agenda including Val's project.

[Philbilly]

HuffPost: The Best Place For Jobs In Canada Is … Moncton?

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/jobs-pandemic-canada-moncton-new-brunswick_ca_5f0a0502c5b63a72c342885d

[L'homard]

Would have loved to see a bit more meat in the July PAC agenda including Val's project.

I believe Val already has secured all the zoning, permits, variances, etc... for whatever it is he's planning.
Unless my memory fails me, which it sometimes does, he doesn't need to go before the board in order to get going.

[MonctonRad]

HuffPost: The Best Place For Jobs In Canada Is … Moncton?

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/jobs-pandemic-canada-moncton-new-brunswick_ca_5f0a0502c5b63a72c342885d

We should enjoy this while it lasts........... :haha:

Moncton - the bubble within the bubble. :tup:

[habs33]

St. Pat's sold: Hospital group lands property for $2.5M (https://tj.news/story/101319111?ref=fb&fbclid=IwAR1KZsMm10CV55CzHqpNmUcsRMOwFMw9_axYvb7wTO6UPRVpSeP9Qo9YIHE)
After about a year of searching for a way to revive the shuttered St. Patrick's Family Centre, its members voted Wednesday to sell the property to a group connected to the neighbouring Dr.-Georges-L.-Dumont University Hospital Centre.

Maria Mutch, president of the centre's board, said the 50-odd people who gathered for Wednesday's general meeting elected to accept a $2.5 million offer from Partenaire Dumont Inc. for the Providence Street property, which will also see the group forgive a $100,000 loan and associated interest meant to cover heating and insurance costs incurred while the board planned its next steps.

Partenaire Dumont is a non-profit association that works in collaboration with the Fondation CHU Dumont Foundation on activities like land acquisition that are beyond the scope of the foundation.

[MonctonRad]

The land will unquestionably be donated to the GDH for their future expansion plans:

$400M Dumont hospital expansion plan includes 600-space parking garage
Plan calls for spending $30 million on 'immediate needs' by 2022, including parking
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Dec 17, 2019 12:23 PM AT | Last Updated: December 17, 2019
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/dumont-hospital-expansion-moncton-parking-1.5398899

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5398913.1576590386!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/dumont-expansion-plan.jpg

Meanwhile, a modest addition to the Moncton Hospital for a new maternal/newborn unit including an NNICU, which was to begin sometime this year is still nowhere to be seen. I suppose it could be possible the expansion was delayed by the pandemic, but there has been no discussion as to what is going on at all. All we hear are <crickets><crickets><crickets>

The new unit at the Moncton Hospital is only about 5% of the value of the ambitious GDH plan. The blatant favouritism of one hospital over the other in Moncton is beginning to get most galling........... :hell:

[MonctonRad]

Headline from the T&T online site:

Industrial Parks Track Towards Record Despite Pandemic

https://s3.amazonaws.com/resized.images.us-east-1.tj.news/902485/desktop/park.jpeg
Aerial photo of the main MID park

Moncton Industrial Developments which manages and develops the city's four industrial parks, is on pace for a record breaking year in 2020 despite the COVID-19 pandemic. It's (previous) best year was in 2019, with $2.6M in land sales and $83M in development permits

[mylesmalley]

The land will unquestionably be donated to the GDH for their future expansion plans:

$400M Dumont hospital expansion plan includes 600-space parking garage
Plan calls for spending $30 million on 'immediate needs' by 2022, including parking
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Dec 17, 2019 12:23 PM AT | Last Updated: December 17, 2019
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/dumont-hospital-expansion-moncton-parking-1.5398899

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5398913.1576590386!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/dumont-expansion-plan.jpg

Meanwhile, a modest addition to the Moncton Hospital for a new maternal/newborn unit including an NNICU, which was to begin sometime this year is still nowhere to be seen. I suppose it could be possible the expansion was delayed by the pandemic, but there has been no discussion as to what is going on at all. All we hear are <crickets><crickets><crickets>

The new unit at the Moncton Hospital is only about 5% of the value of the ambitious GDH plan. The blatant favouritism of one hospital over the other in Moncton is beginning to get most galling........... :hell:

Is part of the issue here that Vitalité has one major hospital but Horizon operates three? I have no idea how their respective budgets work and doubtless there is politics, but when looking at capital infrastructure spending Horizon has to share the love.

[NBNYer]

Meanwhile, a modest addition to the Moncton Hospital for a new maternal/newborn unit including an NNICU, which was to begin sometime this year is still nowhere to be seen. I suppose it could be possible the expansion was delayed by the pandemic, but there has been no discussion as to what is going on at all. All we hear are <crickets><crickets><crickets>

The new unit at the Moncton Hospital is only about 5% of the value of the ambitious GDH plan. The blatant favouritism of one hospital over the other in Moncton is beginning to get most galling........... :hell:

Is part of the issue here that Vitalité has one major hospital but Horizon operates three? I have no idea how their respective budgets work and doubtless there is politics, but when looking at capital infrastructure spending Horizon has to share the love.

Myles may be correct. Also, I wasn't going to say anything, but just so that people reading this are made aware, all of these major improvements to the CHU Dumont are not much more than a wishlist from hospital administration. The linked article states that government officials had not even received a request for funding at the time of publication. I suspect the information was fed to the press to drum up support for the project but given the current economic and political climate, I sincerely doubt we are going to see anything happen according to the proposed schedule. To be clear, I would love to see such improvements happen, I think it is way overdue... and a both local hospitals. Both hospitals are in dire need of parking structures.

[MonctonRad]

Is part of the issue here that Vitalité has one major hospital but Horizon operates three? I have no idea how their respective budgets work and doubtless there is politics, but when looking at capital infrastructure spending Horizon has to share the love.

This is unquestionably true. The CHU Dumont only really has the Chaleur Regional Hospital as a competitor in the Vitalite Network, but there is no question that the Dumont is the top dog (main teaching hospital for the francophone medical school, major oncology research centre etc).

Meanwhile, on the anglophone side, the love has to be spread amongst three different major hospitals, while also not forgetting the URVH in Waterville and the Miramichi Regional Hospital. The SJRH in Saint John is the top dog because of the affiliated medical school down there. The Moncton Hospital traditionally has been the #2 hospital in the province, but at least in terms of prestige, we now seem to be #3 (behind the Dumont), with the Chalmers Hospital in Freddy increasingly nipping at our heels.

This is frustrating and demoralizing to those of us who work at the Moncton Hospital. In reality, we still have all the tertiary care services at the hospital that we always have had (neurosurgery, medical oncology, adolescent psychiatry, neonatal intensive care) and still have major concentrations in trauma/emergency medicine, orthopaedics, interventional radiology, obstetrical care etc, and we remain larger and busier than the GDH, but we seem to be sliding into senescence. It is increasingly difficult to acquire new (or even replacement) equipment, any hospital expansion plans are either shelved or if they are approved, tend to be much less expansive than they should be (example - the new oncology wing does not have any office space for the oncologists).

The Moncton Hospital in many ways is still #2 in the province, but it is not difficult looking 10-15 years down the road and seeing us being #4 instead.

[MonctonRad]

Headline from the T&T online site:

Industrial Parks Track Towards Record Despite Pandemic

https://s3.amazonaws.com/resized.images.us-east-1.tj.news/902485/desktop/park.jpeg
Aerial photo of the main MID park

Further to the above, I have perused the full article, and MID expects to approve five sales transactions on lots in the city industrial parks before the end of September. One of these transactions will be by the end of July, and will involve a new manufacturer, creating 50 new jobs. Another two projected land sales will be in the MID West park. Some of the companies involved will be new to the Maritimes.

[MonctonRad]

Despite my grumblings on the previous page about lack of progress at the Moncton Hospital, I noticed an excavator on site this morning as well as construction fencing, so I presume the new Maternal/Fetal Medicine/NNICU wing is now under construction.

If I recall, this is a $30-40M project.

[josh_cat_eyes]

Despite my grumblings on the previous page about lack of progress at the Moncton Hospital, I noticed an excavator on site this morning as well as construction fencing, so I presume the new Maternal/Fetal Medicine/NNICU wing is now under construction.

If I recall, this is a $30-40M project.

I wonder if the Dumont getting a parking garage gives any hope for the Moncton hospital to get one. Ideally IMO they would build one across the street, have a tunnel across to the lobby. This would also involve giving the lobby a badly needed upgrade as well.

[Nashe]

I wonder if the Dumont getting a parking garage gives any hope for the Moncton hospital to get one. Ideally IMO they would build one across the street, have a tunnel across to the lobby. This would also involve giving the lobby a badly needed upgrade as well.
This is something that has boggled me for some time. I know parking garages are tough to recoup investment in but this is one of those cases I'm sure it'd work if someone could come up with 20m or so in capital. Those lots are some of the busiest in Moncton. I know there was some push-back from houses surrounding the existing lot. But realistically, taking that HUGE surface lot and converting it to a 3-storey structure would leave a lot of room for... *gasp* greenspace at each end of the block (Arden end, Connaught end).

There are three cross-walks (one lit) on MacBeath between Connaught and Arden and I'd say half of the people don't use them, lol. Add to that staff that are shuttled all the way from UdeM and it makes nothing but sense.

[KnoxfordGuy]

Deleted comment.

[Ammn_guy]

Its very visable that Dumont seems to always be under constuction with very elaborate, large additions, meanwhile moncton gets the the cheapest options possible.

Same in the school systems.. francophone schools are announced and under construction usually within months, and have extras like daycares etc.

Anglo schools are announced and dont start for years if at all(forest glen,bessborough,mountain view(renos/replacment), and usually they forget the fields and the playgrounds.

I am honestly not sure if language politics(everyone would love to hype that up) are the issue here or if some management boards/committees are just more efficient/organized and plan better then others, or are better at selling to the politics but the visuals are bad.

[MonctonRad]

From Mayor Dawn Arnold's Linkedin account:

The July Labour Force Survey data released yesterday by StatsCan states that the Moncton CMA continues to lead the country with the lowest unemployment rate – 8.2% for July (down from 9.1% in June). Our employment rate of 60.8 is second highest in the country. And, to put our jobs’ recovery into perspective, the national unemployment rate stood at 10.9% in July. StatsCan also reported that employment in NB has returned to 96.6% of pre-COVID levels (February), “the most complete recovery of all provinces to date.”

[MonctonRad]

Very busy agenda (and associated documentation) for the August PAC meeting for the City of Moncton:

https://www.moncton.ca/lets-do-business-zoning-planning-urban-planning/planning-advisory-committee

[b2dam]

Was doing some searching up on schools and came across this
https://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/ed/pdf/K12/2020-21QBL.pdf

Anyone know what it is? I see there is a mention of a new "Metro Moncton" high school at he bottom. I assume that is the rumoured high school for the North End?

[jonny golden]

Was doing some searching up on schools and came across this
https://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/ed/pdf/K12/2020-21QBL.pdf

Anyone know what it is? I see there is a mention of a new "Metro Moncton" high school at he bottom. I assume that is the rumoured high school for the North End?

I think you're right. It'd pretty much have to be the north end high school that has been speculated about.

[MonctonRad]

Was doing some searching up on schools and came across this
https://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/ed/pdf/K12/2020-21QBL.pdf

Anyone know what it is? I see there is a mention of a new "Metro Moncton" high school at he bottom. I assume that is the rumoured high school for the North End?

Very interesting to see the proposed new Moncton North anglophone high school on that list.

This however does not presuppose any prioritization, and this proposal may sit on the list for a decade or more, but it is still good to see that the need for this new school has been acknowledged. :)

[b2dam]

Very interesting to see the proposed new Moncton North anglophone high school on that list.

This however does not presuppose any prioritization, and this proposal may sit on the list for a decade or more, but it is still good to see that the need for this new school has been acknowledged. :)

It was also interesting to see that Mountain View is listed for a replacement while Forest Glen and Sunny Brae are listed as "rationalization" which I guess means it still in the discussion stages? I know the original plan was to merge the 3 schools.

[MonctonRad]

It was also interesting to see that Mountain View is listed for a replacement while Forest Glen and Sunny Brae are listed as "rationalization" which I guess means it still in the discussion stages? I know the original plan was to merge the 3 schools.

If they are being "rationalized", I would take that to mean that closure of these two schools is planned, with a merger occurring with Mountain View (likely in a new building).

[MonctonRad]

Major Moncton traffic circle may (will be) close(d) for two weeks in September
Province plans to close Route 15 traffic circle to repave area used by 70,000 vehicles daily
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Aug 24, 2020 4:49 PM AT | Last Updated: 2 hours ago

The work will see the ramp from Paul Street onto Route 15 extended 170 metres to provide better sight lines from the overpass, Morency-Cormier said.

The staff report says the province also plans to repave the intersection of Botsford Street and Wheeler Boulevard as well as the Route 15 interchange with Paul Street.

The extension of the onramp from Paul Street onto the traffic circle makes my heart swell with joy. The current onramp is waaaay too short and an accident waiting to happen. I refuse to use it and, instead, just drive west on Lewisville to Botsford and get on Highway 15 there. I'm glad to see that they realize there is a problem there.......

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5698023.1598295954!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/route-15-work-map.jpg
Red markings show the extend of where construction work on the Route 15 traffic circle will take place over the coming weeks. (City of Moncton)

[NBNYer]

Major Moncton traffic circle may (will be) close(d) for two weeks in September
Province plans to close Route 15 traffic circle to repave area used by 70,000 vehicles daily


I don't remember the Hall's creek traffic circle ever being in as bad a shape as it is now. The pavement adjacent the Main street spur was nearly completely broken down which prompted a hasty and urgent patchwork earlier this summer.

An interesting tidbit is that 70,000 vehicle per day count quoted in the article was from 2014, I wonder what it is today and what is the traffic circle's rated vehicle count. This is probably wishful thinking but the next time repairs are needed in a few years, I hope some consideration is given to replacement with a proper interchange which would include the Botsford intersection... and some proper highway lighting. The daily backups and full stops on the highways in this part of the city seem to have been worsening in recent years.

[b2dam]

They picked a poor time to start that work. The back to school traffic is already going to be a nightmare with more parents then usual driving their kids.

I assume they will still be working on Shediac road as well.

[Sandbagger]

Extending the Paul St ramp is much needed, but I would have liked to see them also extend the merge lane turning east onto the circle from Botsford. It's like 50ft long and no one uses it, rightly so. It's not enough time to safely merge into Wheeler speed traffic so everyone sits at that yield for the light to change and it always jams up east bound traffic at the Wheeler/Botsford intersection. Seems like there's plenty of space to extend it but they never have.

[MonctonRad]

Agreed.

Ideally, the traffic circle should be de facto three lanes (or 2.5 lanes if you prefer).

The outside lane should be for traffic entering via one access point and leaving the circle via the next exit. For example Paul St -> Wheeler Blvd, Wheeler Blvd -> Main St and Main St/Champlain St -> Paul St.

The middle lane (current outside lane) should be for traffic accessing the circle from Veterans Highway proceeding on to Main St, From Wheeler Blvd proceeding to Champlain St/Veteran Highway, or in general, traffic planning to leave traffic flow two exits down the road.

The inside lane should be for traffic accessing the circle from Veterans Highway proceeding to Champlain or Paul Streets, or for excess traffic flow.

[jonny golden]

I was noticing on Retail Talk & Share there's a discussion about the Ashford project on Highfield & Gordon. The question is whether it's going to be wood frame or concrete construction. Most people think it's going to be wood construction, and there's some criticism of that. In the pictures posted, it looks to me like it will be concrete. There are already concrete pillars with rebar on the first floor.

[jonny golden]

'Huge demand for empty-nester housing'

There's an interesting story in todays newspaper about the town houses that developer Pierre Martel says he's been selling as fast as he can build. He states that they're sold even before the foundations are in the ground. He plans to build about 100 new units in the Jonathan Park subdivision.

An interesting feature is that the homes will receive lawn-care maintenance & snow removal under a mandatory service agreement. This concept is based on gated communities in Florida, and is the only master community plan in Atlantic Canada geared towards empty nesters.

[Sunnybrae]

Agreed.

Ideally, the traffic circle should be de facto three lanes (or 2.5 lanes if you prefer).

The outside lane should be for traffic entering via one access point and leaving the circle via the next exit. For example Paul St -> Wheeler Blvd, Wheeler Blvd -> Main St and Main St/Champlain St -> Paul St.

The middle lane (current outside lane) should be for traffic accessing the circle from Veterans Highway proceeding on to Main St, From Wheeler Blvd proceeding to Champlain St/Veteran Highway, or in general, traffic planning to leave traffic flow two exits down the road.

The inside lane should be for traffic accessing the circle from Veterans Highway proceeding to Champlain or Paul Streets, or for excess traffic flow.

I agree with the items mentioned.... if people knew how to use signal lights and respected solid lines. The main problem with multiple lane traffic circles are drivers, not the lanes or ramps or whatever. Some just drive all over the place and haven't used a signal light since the day they past the driving test. Others drive like "no one is getting in front of me" and tailgate like crazy, not letting people change lanes. Then you have the ones that think there time is more important than everyone else and fly around, cutting across two lanes at crazy speeds for an exit ramp.

[MonctonRad]

The Hall's Creek (Dieppe) traffic circle is now open.

I drove through it this morning, and what an improvement!! Before the repaving, when entering and navigating the traffic circle, I spent just as much mental effort concentrating on pothole dodging as I did with lane switching so I could take the proper exit. It was getting to be a real traffic hazard. This is no longer a problem.

I was under the impression however that they were going to lengthen the onramp from Paul Street onto the circle. They did not do this, although they did widen the shoulders in this location, so that you can now do an emergency deviation to the shoulder if there were a risk of imminent collision while attempting to merge. I guess this is a bit of an improvement, but not what I was expecting...........

[josh_cat_eyes]

The Hall's Creek (Dieppe) traffic circle is now open.

I drove through it this morning, and what an improvement!! Before the repaving, when entering and navigating the traffic circle, I spent just as much mental effort concentrating on pothole dodging as I did with lane switching so I could take the proper exit. It was getting to be a real traffic hazard. This is no longer a problem.

I was under the impression however that they were going to lengthen the onramp from Paul Street onto the circle. They did not do this, although they did widen the shoulders in this location, so that you can now do an emergency deviation to the shoulder if there were a risk of imminent collision while attempting to merge. I guess this is a bit of an improvement, but not what I was expecting...........

I was thinking the same thing, I drove through it the other day and noticed that it wasn’t extended at all.

[Nashe]

I was thinking the same thing, I drove through it the other day and noticed that it wasn’t extended at all.
Odd thing is the shoulder beyond it is MASSIVE. Looks like it just had to be painted appropriately...

[gehrhardt]

The Hall's Creek (Dieppe) traffic circle is now open.

I drove through it this morning, and what an improvement!! Before the repaving, when entering and navigating the traffic circle, I spent just as much mental effort concentrating on pothole dodging as I did with lane switching so I could take the proper exit. It was getting to be a real traffic hazard. This is no longer a problem.

I was under the impression however that they were going to lengthen the onramp from Paul Street onto the circle. They did not do this, although they did widen the shoulders in this location, so that you can now do an emergency deviation to the shoulder if there were a risk of imminent collision while attempting to merge. I guess this is a bit of an improvement, but not what I was expecting...........

They really should have expanded this ramp. Right now, it's a yield, not a merge. Many drivers coming off of Paul St don't treat it as such, though. If they extended it, they may be able to make it an actual merge.

[Photo1]

The Hall's Creek (Dieppe) traffic circle is now open.

I drove through it this morning, and what an improvement!! Before the repaving, when entering and navigating the traffic circle, I spent just as much mental effort concentrating on pothole dodging as I did with lane switching so I could take the proper exit. It was getting to be a real traffic hazard. This is no longer a problem.

I was under the impression however that they were going to lengthen the onramp from Paul Street onto the circle. They did not do this, although they did widen the shoulders in this location, so that you can now do an emergency deviation to the shoulder if there were a risk of imminent collision while attempting to merge. I guess this is a bit of an improvement, but not what I was expecting...........

I've driven around it once and the lines usage is just strange, if you get in the outside lane, it's a solid line (not a broken change lane line) past where you would be expected to merge in to continue round the traffic circle. For people that don't know the traffic circle...this could be VERY confusing.

[NBNYer]

I've driven around it once and the lines usage is just strange, if you get in the outside lane, it's a solid line (not a broken change lane line) past where you would be expected to merge in to continue round the traffic circle. For people that don't know the traffic circle...this could be VERY confusing.

The overhead signs indicate the lane designations prior to you entering the traffic circle. The objective is to cut down on weaving and lane changes inside the circle.

[Photo1]

The overhead signs indicate the lane designations prior to you entering the traffic circle. The objective is to cut down on weaving and lane changes inside the circle.

Until the lines wear off and things are back to normal...but even so, the lines as configured indicate you can't change lanes if you are in the wrong one, even some of the broken lines near an exit (to Paul St. for example) are almost on top of the actual exit.

[L'homard]

I was always under the impression they were NOT extending the onramp to the four lane heading towards Shediac, and always wondered why a lot of people thought that they were. Either way, I wish they would have extended it.
On the topic of the lines, I'm sure we'll all quickly find that no one pays one iota of attention to the lines. They certainly never have in the past.

[MonctonRad]

According to this Huddle article, Moncton is on a short list of 3-4 cities being considered for a major expansion by Infosys.

https://huddle.today/moncton-on-the-radar-as-indian-tech-giant-infosys-plans-canadian-expansion/

“We’re exploring new cities where we could set up our hub and do the incremental hiring. New Brunswick – Moncton – is one of the potential locations,” said president Ravi Kumar. “The reason is very simple – it is a region which has more than 19,000 people who work in technology and business processing functions, not just for Canadian clients but also for clients in other parts of the world.”

for its third Canadian office, Kumar said Infosys is “evaluating three or four cities,” including Moncton, Montreal and Calgary.

Although they aren't specific about the size of this operation, just perusing the article, I get the impression it will be well north of 1,000 employees. If they choose Moncton, they could be a great tenant for 1222 Main Street. :)

[josh_cat_eyes]

I was always under the impression they were NOT extending the onramp to the four lane heading towards Shediac, and always wondered why a lot of people thought that they were. Either way, I wish they would have extended it.
On the topic of the lines, I'm sure we'll all quickly find that no one pays one iota of attention to the lines. They certainly never have in the past.

The on ramp extension was supposed to be the on-ramp going towards the traffic circle, not heading towards Shediac.

[L'homard]

The on ramp extension was supposed to be the on-ramp going towards the traffic circle, not heading towards Shediac.

Oh, thanks!

[MonctonRad]

CCD Canada has a listing online for "ALPA Equipment Moncton".

ALPA is a forestry and construction heavy equipment dealer, currently with locations in Balmoral, Edmundston, Fredericton and Truro.

https://www.alpaequipment.com

With this notice on CCD Canada, it would appear they are planning on building a dealership in Moncton too, presumably within one of the industrial parks. We'll keep an eye on this one. The new Moncton East Business Park would be an ideal location for something like this, especially regarding visibility and access from the TCH

[L'homard]

There was something in the newspaper a few months ago about them setting up shop here. Here's confirmation on their FB page but they offer scant details.

https://www.facebook.com/alpaequipment/photos/a.553564148030695/3211790532208030/?type=3

[ErickMontreal]

TD Insurance opened a contact centre in Moncton

The number of jobs created is unknown to me. It will serve as support for customer service (sale) for the Atlantic market and eventually the overflow for Québec. It is located within the TD Bank campus.

I am not aware as to why Moncton was chosen over Saint John or Halifax but I know the struggle to hire or attract fluent bilingual people to Saint John. Good news for Moncton.Actually, in two year span, I think TD employs more people in Moncton than Saint John. Here’s a good example of how having a bilingual workplace pays off.

[MonctonRad]

How big is the workforce at TD in Moncton now Erick?

I think it was supposed to be about 1200. Is it larger than that now?

[ErickMontreal]

How big is the workforce at TD in Moncton now Erick?

I think it was supposed to be about 1200. Is it larger than that now?

I believe it’s around 1000 people as of now , excluding the new hiring from TD Insurance.

[MonctonRad]

Residential Contruction Leads The Way In Moncton
Oct 29, 2020
by Huddle Staff
https://huddle.today/residential-contruction-leads-the-way-in-moncton/

[MonctonRad]

The agenda for the November meeting of the Moncton PAC is out - mostly minor issues.

https://www.moncton.ca/lets-do-business-zoning-planning-urban-planning/planning-advisory-committee

[MonctonRad]

Interesting CBC article:

Moncton wants province to rethink school site selection criteria
Call for change follows upset in west end over new K-8 school location
CBC News · Posted: Nov 17, 2020 4:31 PM AT | Last Updated: November 17
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-council-school-site-selection-west-end-1.5804688

This is absolutely an issue when it comes to locating new schools in the urban heart of the community. If we want to be serious about encouraging downtown densification, then we should be locating schools in the city core too. This may mean eliminating requirements for minimum lot size and sports fields in certain instances.

This is also an issue with regards to school replacements in older urban neighbourhoods. Elementary schools are fundamental to the character and cohesiveness of a neighbourhood, and if, when a school reaches the end of it's life, the replacement is build on the exurban fringe of the city instead, this in essence rips the guts right out of the former neighbourhood. This is absolutely not right! :hell:

[OliverD]

Yeah, I agree 100%. The minimum suggested lot sizes for elementary schools are outrageous. I believe the guideline for the new school is 24 acres! That's insane.

My wife teaches at Connaught Street School in Fredericton. They have about 350 students and about five acres and that's fine. I think they even have a sports field. This school serves most of downtown Fredericton and a lot of kids walk to school. Ditch the sports field and build it two storeys and a school like this could easily fit on 2.5 acres or so.

[Franco401]

A PC government isn't going to consider urban planning issues in governing. They made this clear from the start of the Higgs government and it was no different under Alward. Their base is rural and car-owning.

[adamuptownsj]

A PC government isn't going to consider urban planning issues in governing. They made this clear from the start of the Higgs government and it was no different under Alward. Their base is rural and car-owning.

There's only 10 ridings that are 'urban' by any reasonable definition. The PCs hold 6 of them. The PC base has in recent years been Anglo suburbs and exurbs, but it's not like the other parties have a strong claim on representing urban NBers.

Fredericton N (PC) and S (G)
Moncton C (L) and S (PC)
Dieppe (L)
Riverview (PC)
Saint John Harbour, P-S, and MAYBE Lancaster (all PC)
Miramichi (PA)

The Liberal base from Madawaska around to Kent is more rural than the PC caucus- they only hold two urban seats!

The Greens hold one urban seat and two non-urban. The Alliance has a 50% urban/non-urban caucus.

From what I've heard, the site was chosen because the province owned the land, mostly. It's not in an ideal location but apparently the site was selected according to the same formula in use for years.

[Beaubassin]

Proposal of 3 apartment buildings in Shediac

Each building will be 5 stories high and contain 89 units each for a total of 267 units. Might not happen since there are problems with the sewer capacity in the area. The Greater Shediac Sewerage commission said they would not approve these developments until it was resolved.

Could not find any renderings as of yet.

https://i.imgur.com/HEaMrnw.png

https://shediac.ca/images/EBAUCHEArreteZ144434Zendatedu4novembre2020TrackChangesJADOnline9novembre2020.pdf

[MonctonRad]

:previous:

Thanks, and welcome to the forums!

There is a Shediac thread, but it has dropped off the bottom of the page. I will repost this there. :)

[MonctonRad]

from Huddle

TD Will Hire 100 People By January For New Insurance Centre In Dieppe
Nov 30, 2020 by Inda Intiar
https://huddle.today/td-will-hire-100-people-by-january-for-new-insurance-centre-in-dieppe/

https://huddle.today/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/TD-Insurance-scaled-e1606762693987-810x456.jpg

“It’s a brand new centre, unique to Moncton, and it’s going to involve hundreds of jobs,” he said. “A hundred is what we have in motion at the moment, and we have space for 135,” says Frank McKenna, TD Bank’s deputy chair and former premier of New Brunswick.

Remote work will allow the bank to hire “hundreds” more people from outside of Greater Moncton over time, including the Francophone region of Northern New Brunswick, McKenna added.

“It means that we don’t have to depend just on the Greater Moncton area for bilingual workers,” he said. “We can use the entire province as our recruiting area, and that increases the potential for us to add jobs.”

McKenna says the jobs are not part of the 1,015 the bank said it would create in 2018 with the opening of its campus at CF Champlain.

So, this will increase the TD footprint at CF Champlain to 1,150 employees. Good news!!

[jonny golden]

Quotes from a Govt. N.B. news release today:

"The provincial and federal governments are investing a total of $373,000 in Alive Kombucha to help establish a 465 sq. meter (5,000 sq. ft.) commercial Kombucha brewery in Moncton."

"The funding will support renovations to an existing building and the purchase of advanced manufacturing equipment."

“Here at Alive Kombucha we brew our kombucha using solar energy, so that we can provide you with a healthy drink that doesn't negatively affect our planet, said Louis Leith, company owner."

Link to story:
https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/news_release.2020.12.0675.html

[jonny golden]

They're putting the ice in the skating rink at the Avenir center today. I saw the Zamboni doing it's thing earlier.

[jonny golden]

People skating at the outdoor oval tonight. Nice.

[MonctonRad]

Province to spend $6M on Rising Tide affordable housing plan in Moncton
Rising Tide plans to buy property and open 125 units over three years with provincial, municipal funding
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Dec 21, 2020 3:11 PM AT | Last Updated: 25 minutes ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-rising-tide-affordable-housing-1.5850099

This matches $6M in funding already pledged by the city of Moncton. They plan (mostly) to purchase current downtown housing stock, fix them up and rent them as subsidized housing - a good plan.

I wonder if that house next to the Ashford Living property at Gordon/Highfield could be considered for this?

[tmacdougall]

With the Heritage designated, I'm guessing the City of Moncton wouldn't even touch that property.

Province to spend $6M on Rising Tide affordable housing plan in Moncton
Rising Tide plans to buy property and open 125 units over three years with provincial, municipal funding
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Dec 21, 2020 3:11 PM AT | Last Updated: 25 minutes ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-rising-tide-affordable-housing-1.5850099

This matches $6M in funding already pledged by the city of Moncton. They plan (mostly) to purchase current downtown housing stock, fix them up and rent them as subsidized housing - a good plan.

I wonder if that house next to the Ashford Living property at Gordon/Highfield could be considered for this?

[adamuptownsj]

Yeah, the cost:benefit ratio to restore a Victorian nicely means it won't and shouldn't be part of this.

[jonny golden]

Yeah, the cost:benefit ratio to restore a Victorian nicely means it won't and shouldn't be part of this.

I'd be surprised if Ashford decides to sell the house to this group. I think they'll sit on it for a while and decide what to do with it some time down the road.

[adamuptownsj]

Centennial Park improvements announced.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/centennial-park-moncton-makeover-public-input-jocelyn-cohoon-1.5851926

[MonctonRad]

City of Moncton news release:

January 7, 2021
City of Moncton building permits set new record for second year in a row
New level has been reached in four of the last five years

MONCTON, NB – The City of Moncton has again broken new ground when it comes to annual building activity, and this time did so during a global pandemic. The year that presented so many new challenges ended with $270.8 million in permits, up from $257.4 million in 2019. The trailing 10-year average rose by over ten million dollars to $202.3 million, reaching over $200 million for the first time. The annual range over the last decade spans from a low of $123 million in 2014, to this year’s record high.

The clear winner for 2020 was residential development, representing nearly half of the year’s permit activity at $133.6 million. This included 11 new apartment buildings with 728 units for a combined value of $90.8 million.
Institutional development was also strong in 2020 with $71.1 million in permits. The largest projects in this category include a new K-8 school on McLaughlin Drive valued at $34.1 million and a new addition at the Moncton Hospital worth $25.4 million.

Commercial activity came in at $57.8 million for the year, down from a robust $140.7 million in 2019. The largest drivers of these results include a $9.2 million Brandt dealership on Urquart, a $5.5 million Jessome Tools facility on Desbrisay, a $4.3 million Kelcold warehouse on Frenette and a $3.3 million MACC warehouse on Price.

“To have this level of growth during a rapidly evolving global health event is nothing short of remarkable,” explained Mayor Dawn Arnold. “This part of our country continues to prove itself to be a haven with good balance and a stable outlook.”

Development within the downtown area continued to capture a good piece of the action. Building permits in the Downtown totaled $48.8 million in 2020 including 248 new apartment units across 4 buildings (included above) within the area of Gordon/Weldon/Cameron Streets. These four projects alone accounted for $37.2 million of permits in the Downtown.

[MonctonRad]

found on Mayor Dawn Arnold's FB page:

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139041452_10157987928426485_8704558003317260898_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=N7N4RvDWn6wAX-GcQcx&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=abb1bbc88cd650a9813ee79b44d0ec6b&oe=6025A858

I know there are forum rules against posting news content from official sources in their entirety, but since this was found on the mayor of Moncton's FB page, I will take the liberty of posting it here. I would not have if I had lifted this screen capture from the official T&T website.

[b2dam]

Interesting CBC article:

Moncton wants province to rethink school site selection criteria
Call for change follows upset in west end over new K-8 school location
CBC News · Posted: Nov 17, 2020 4:31 PM AT | Last Updated: November 17
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-council-school-site-selection-west-end-1.5804688

This is absolutely an issue when it comes to locating new schools in the urban heart of the community. If we want to be serious about encouraging downtown densification, then we should be locating schools in the city core too. This may mean eliminating requirements for minimum lot size and sports fields in certain instances.

This is also an issue with regards to school replacements in older urban neighbourhoods. Elementary schools are fundamental to the character and cohesiveness of a neighbourhood, and if, when a school reaches the end of it's life, the replacement is build on the exurban fringe of the city instead, this in essence rips the guts right out of the former neighbourhood. This is absolutely not right! :hell:

I've been thinking about this lately. It seems likely the the replacement school for Forest Glen, Sunny Brae and Mountain View could follow a similar path and be built next to MHS. Not much land available in the current neighbourhoods and plenty of land out there.

[MonctonRad]

:previous:

If the province already owns surplus land adjacent to the current MHS, I could see them doing this. It would be akin to what they are already planning for the Bessborough/Hillcrest replacement next to McNaughton High.

I would strongly object to this however. I think it is extremely important to have new K-8 schools constructed close to the neighbourhoods that they serve. This is especially important in any attempts to limit sprawl. Why not build it in the vision lands, unless they are worried about having too many schools in the neighbourhood (what with the new K-8 francophone school already under construction and the existing francophone high school next door).

[josh_cat_eyes]

:previous:

If the province already owns surplus land adjacent to the current MHS, I could see them doing this. It would be akin to what they are already planning for the Bessborough/Hillcrest replacement next to McNaughton High.

I would strongly object to this however. I think it is extremely important to have new K-8 schools constructed close to the neighbourhoods that they serve. This is especially important in any attempts to limit sprawl. Why not build it in the vision lands, unless they are worried about having too many schools in the neighbourhood (what with the new K-8 francophone school already under construction and the existing francophone high school next door).

If the French want something they get it in a prime location, if the English want something they have to wait and it’s not big enough and in a terrible location. The Province must buy the English schools on Wish.